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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: Hey friends, welcome another edition to Move the Sticks is

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Speaker 1: off and running here and for DJ.

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Speaker 2: I am Red Lewis here with great Bucky Brooks, and

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Speaker 2: we are fired up as the rookie draft is coming

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Speaker 2: down to the wire, down to the end. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to that in today's episode. We'll get you our coordinator

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Speaker 2: of the week. But Bucky boy, the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers are a rolling on Monday night football.

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Speaker 1: What's happening, brother?

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Speaker 3: No, what's going on? Man?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: It's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 4: You talk about the Monday night football game, Niners just

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Speaker 4: going up and down the field and until they put

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Speaker 4: the graphic up at one point, Red, I think it

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Speaker 4: was nineteen street droughts without a punt. Sixteen of those

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Speaker 4: ended in scores. I think ten of those were maybe

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Speaker 4: touchdowns and six field goals. It's really amazing to see

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Speaker 4: and I'm gonna save this. I think this is Kyle

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Speaker 4: Shanahan's best coaching job in terms of all that he

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Speaker 4: had to deal with with the injuries Bosa Warner, Rock

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Speaker 4: Purdy for a big part of the season, all sideline

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Speaker 4: George Kidle not being available, Brandon Aiyuk just going a

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Speaker 4: wall on and yet this team is sitting here with

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Speaker 4: a legitimate chance to be the number one steed in

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Speaker 4: the NFC. Is something that I don't think anybody could

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Speaker 4: have envisioned early in the year when they started getting

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Speaker 4: hit with the injuries.

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Speaker 1: Man, pretty dang impressive, I think.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, the offense always to a certain degree,

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Speaker 2: runs through Christian McCaffrey. Now, there was a time of

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Speaker 2: the year where he was, you know, touching the ball

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Speaker 2: thirty times a game. It felt like, you know, whether

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Speaker 2: that was you know, attempts in the run game or

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Speaker 2: targets and receptions in the pass game.

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Speaker 1: He obviously still has scored two touchdowns in this game.

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Speaker 2: But man, the downfield pass game from Brock Purty last

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Speaker 2: night and really these last couple of weeks that you

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Speaker 2: were kind of alluding to there, they're averaging almost seven

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Speaker 2: yards of play, you know, over four hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: yards total, and he's throwing the football with some real

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Speaker 2: like just I mean, this this is like the Brock

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Speaker 2: party before he got injured in the NFC Championship game

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, yes, the explosive efficiency that you're seeing

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Speaker 4: from the position. And one of the things that we've

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Speaker 4: always loved about the Shanahan system is it creates explosive

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Speaker 4: plays in the passing game, and it's very easy for

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Speaker 4: the quarterback to be able to get it done were

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Speaker 4: they able to run the football, the play action passing

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Speaker 4: that comes off of that, the big plays over the middle,

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Speaker 4: and you're seeing anybody in everybody.

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Speaker 3: I su he's got more sightings.

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Speaker 4: When we hadn't talked about him in years, all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden he showed us and he's making plays.

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Speaker 3: He got other guys all over the PERIMETERSLN.

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Speaker 1: Jennings and Kendrick Born and yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 4: They're able to kind of put it together with a

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Speaker 4: hodgepodge of players, and it's really a testament to what

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Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan is.

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Speaker 3: Able to do on the whiteboard.

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Speaker 1: I would say the same. The other thing.

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Speaker 2: Now, look like George Kittle got banged up in this game.

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Speaker 2: Obviously he missed a ton of time early with the hammy,

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Speaker 1: See, we'll see how that affects them.

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Speaker 2: I Mean, this does feel like a team that cannot

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Speaker 2: few teams that can afford to lose guys this time

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Speaker 2: of year. But like especially with where the forty nine

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Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball. You said this might

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Speaker 2: best coaching job? Considering no Nick Bosa, no Fred Warner,

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Speaker 2: defense still playing at a pretty high level.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think people have to understand that you

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Speaker 4: he's had to switch. Before the Niners were what I

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Speaker 4: trying to snuff people out. Now, with the injuries and

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Speaker 3: Good in a few different areas.

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Speaker 4: One can be great in the red zone and two

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Speaker 4: but the red zone defense, that's where they're putting a

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Speaker 1: That's a great point too.

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Speaker 2: And there are certain, you know, areas which they excelled

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Speaker 2: point in their careers, Like, if you can avoid the

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Speaker 1: Runs longer than ten yards in this game.

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Speaker 2: That is a huge win, especially when you've got you know, look,

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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers, I think there's a ton of credit for

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And I think it was very difficult for the Niners

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Speaker 4: what Philip Rivers is going to have, and so you

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Speaker 4: Philip Rivers was dealing because you tried to bliss him.

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Speaker 4: He was able to find the checkdowns quickly the ball

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Speaker 3: And it took a while for the Niners took around them.

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Speaker 4: It really took a cool I mean the first half

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Speaker 4: they finished with the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Man, they went both those games.

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Speaker 4: Right, They're going to be the number one seed and

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Speaker 4: everyone's going to have to come through Levi Stadium, which

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Speaker 2: The thing I know, it's been a terrific run, certainly

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Speaker 2: That's going to be a Hecko matchup right three days

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Speaker 1: Now on the.

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Speaker 2: Flip side, let's get to the Colts side of things here. Look,

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Speaker 2: that's what happens, you know. Unfortunately, the Colts have been

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Speaker 2: a tough spot to be in.

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Speaker 3: Yes, justified to be in.

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Speaker 4: And I think what people have to understand is their

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Speaker 4: schedule was so backloaded. All the heavy hitters on the

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Speaker 4: he was eventually lost for the season.

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Speaker 3: And then you played with Riley Leonard.

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Speaker 4: He has to come out, and then you bring Philip

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Speaker 3: That's it, man.

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Speaker 4: I think Shane Steich and lou Ana Rumo, I know

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Speaker 4: there's gonna be a lot of talk about whether those

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Speaker 4: being a really good team. They've just been snaked bit,

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Speaker 4: and I don't know if switching the people makes it better.

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Speaker 4: I just think it's unfortunate that they're having to deal

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Speaker 4: You saw that last night in spite of the injuries

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Speaker 4: I just don't know what turnover changes. But they have

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Speaker 4: a quarterback situation with Daniel Jones Anthony Richison, and they

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Speaker 4: have Philip Rivers like they have a quarterback the limit.

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Speaker 3: They have to figure that position out.

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Speaker 2: So if you are Colt's ownership, you know what which

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Speaker 2: look Obviously you know it's similar but not the same

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Speaker 2: stepping into a bigger role here. But are you comfortable

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Speaker 2: with what you saw from Shanstiken and Daniel Jones to

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Speaker 4: I think you have to be given the landscape of

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Speaker 4: the quarterbacks, what else is out there?

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Speaker 3: Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean when you look at it, Daniel Jones is

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Speaker 4: probably the best option on the free agent market because

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Speaker 4: remember people are talking about Mac Jones.

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Speaker 3: Mack Jones has another year.

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Speaker 4: On his deals, a one year deal for Daniel Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so you have to trade for Mac Jones. And then

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Speaker 4: if you think of the other options and possibilities, none

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Speaker 4: of them match up to Daniel Jones, who knows your system,

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Speaker 4: in the draft, I mean, let's be honest right now,

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Speaker 4: Mendoza and a lot of questions like, it's one quarterback

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Speaker 4: The rest of the guys are not franchise changers or savers.

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Speaker 2: Another good week for Bucky Brooks, who is making a

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Speaker 1: Actually the high scorer of the day for Russie cit.

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Speaker 2: for the week seventeen edition. Bucky is the first pick.

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Speaker 4: Man, this is a tough one because man number one

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Speaker 4: You know, they're handing them the ball a little four

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Speaker 1: So I like that Harrold Fan Junior.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I try to just lock up you know, a

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Speaker 2: So I'll about my picking the litter, the running backs

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Speaker 2: you're in Seattle. I no, but it's in Charlotte. Whoknakooa

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Speaker 1: Goodness gracious, this is this is a difficult choice.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna stick with Tetoap McMillan right there.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take r J. Harvey running back to le Bron.

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Speaker 3: Oh what are we doing? R J Harvey? Sorry? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Just give it to him.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 3: You have to.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Aston Gent because he had a big game.

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Speaker 1: They never know.

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Speaker 4: But let's let's take our chance with Luther Burnon going.

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Speaker 1: I think I got to go with Colston Loveland.

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Speaker 4: Well, if Riley Lennard plays, I would be more likely

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Speaker 3: But I just don't know.

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Speaker 1: We don't know.

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Speaker 4: He'll probably be mad about having two charges on the team.

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Speaker 3: You can't get playing his first round pick, my first

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Speaker 1: and move the sticks.

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Speaker 2: Not brought to you by with Sambie Hot Cloud Storage.

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Speaker 2: And it is our coordinator of the week and it

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, it was fourth want to say, his

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Speaker 2: fourth round back in nineteen ninety four and was picked

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Speaker 2: by the Saints. So I got to know him quite

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Speaker 2: a bit when I was messing around with my dad,

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Speaker 2: you know in the locker rooms.

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Speaker 3: Was great.

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Speaker 2: Actually held the Superdome longest touchdown pass record, like inside

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Speaker 2: the Superdome for a touchdown pass he threw to Terry Guess.

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Speaker 1: A receiver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, this is this is a long time

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Speaker 2: ago now that was quickly erased when Drew Brees got

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Speaker 2: the town. That record went away pretty quickly, but then

450
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Speaker 2: played a little bit bounce around the NFL a little

451
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Speaker 2: bit with the Broncos Colts, and then got into Canada

452
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Speaker 2: to finish his career.

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Speaker 1: But his coaching career has been really interesting. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he has been at some.

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Speaker 2: Blue bloods of college football and then you know talking

456
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Speaker 2: about Washington where he was the OC quarterbacks coach, Alabama

457
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Speaker 2: for two years, Michigan, Florida for three years, and then

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Speaker 2: got back into the NFL with the Dallas Cowboys. Spent

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Speaker 2: five years there. Starting at twenty eighteen, was with Kellen

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Speaker 2: Moore with the Chargers and then went with him to

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Speaker 2: Philly as the quarterbacks coach, and then when Kellen took

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Speaker 2: the head coaching job at New Orleans, brought us in

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Speaker 2: as the OC.

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Speaker 1: SO Tyler Shuck who's.

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Speaker 2: Been starting for the last last few games here over

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Speaker 2: three hundred yards a lot. It's been The stats have

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Speaker 2: been quiet Buck in the past game, but they lit

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Speaker 2: up in this game. What have you seen in terms

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Speaker 2: of the progression from Shuck to kind of gives some

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Speaker 2: clarity as to what Nuts has been doing there.

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Speaker 4: Look, I say Nuts and Kellen Moore have done a

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Speaker 4: really good job of giving Tyler shared confidence and Tyler

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Speaker 4: Shuff this is the thing, and we talked about you,

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Speaker 4: one of his biggest advocates during the pre draft process

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Speaker 4: in terms of his maturity but also the skills that

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Speaker 4: he brings to the table athletic, big time arm talent.

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Speaker 4: You would see that arm talent displayed on several prominent

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Speaker 4: plays at Louisville, and you're seeing all of those things

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Speaker 4: come up. I think what has really happened for Shut

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Speaker 4: is him displaying the dude factor that has helped his

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Speaker 4: teammates fall in love with him. That's been the separating

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Speaker 4: factor between him and Spencer Ratler. Like he started to

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Speaker 4: show some due qualities on scrambles and improvisational plays. You

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Speaker 4: saw the big time arm talent and it clicked. We're

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Speaker 4: seeing Chris o'lavey show back up, a guy that we

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Speaker 4: loved in the draft process. All of a sudden, he's open,

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Speaker 4: yeah and making plays. And a lot of this is

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Speaker 4: due to Tyler Shutt having the arm talent and the

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Speaker 4: confidence and the maturity to kind of make happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been really impressive. And I just think again,

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Speaker 2: I remember talking to Shuck a little bit before the

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Speaker 2: season and I was like, tell me a little bit

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Speaker 2: about Nuss and how it's working with Kellen. He's like, well, look,

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Speaker 2: you know, Kellen is so meticulous in detailed and serious

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Speaker 2: about everything he does. Right, It's why he's been such

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Speaker 2: a great coach in the league. Whereas Nuts is a

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Speaker 2: little bit more like he'll let you have it, kind

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Speaker 2: of a little bit more in your face.

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Speaker 1: You know, like you you know, it might curse a

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Speaker 1: little bit, whereas Kellen's a little bit more straight arrow.

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Speaker 2: But to have those kind of both, you know, both personalities,

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Speaker 2: it feels like they kind of give Chuck what he

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Speaker 2: needs in all different scenarios. And look at this is

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Speaker 2: a note you know for rookie quarterbacks and for coaches

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Speaker 2: in the league, like just because they don't start Week

507
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Speaker 2: one doesn't mean you know that they're a failure, right,

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Speaker 2: Like it took some took their time, and Spencer Ratler

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Speaker 2: took some lumps there as Shuck kind of continued to

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Speaker 2: refine himself within this offense in New Orleans. And now

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Speaker 2: I think you're seeing the benefits of that.

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So, and I think what it does is another lesson

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Speaker 4: when it comes to the quarterback process. A lot of

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Speaker 4: times we see the quarterback classes just the first rounders.

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Speaker 4: But Tyler schev was a guy who was a fringe

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Speaker 4: first round talent, drafted in the second round, in and

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Speaker 4: out the lineup early, but then he settled in. And

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Speaker 4: you know, at a time when everyone is wondering how

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Speaker 4: Philip Rivers is able to come off the couch and

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Speaker 4: play after five years sabbatical at the age of forty

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Speaker 4: four and have success, I think we just have to

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Speaker 4: exhibit more patience as these guys are developing, and I

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Speaker 4: think we have to take guys with more experience coming

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Speaker 4: into the coming into the pros. I think all of

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Speaker 4: that stuff matters, whether he's a seven year player or not.

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Speaker 4: The amount of starts, there's something about the maturity that

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Speaker 4: he's been able to play, and I think that that

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Speaker 4: maturity helps them weather storms so they can get to

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Speaker 4: the other side of the ricky struggles that every quarterback

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Speaker 4: has to face.

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Speaker 2: It's not a given, it's not a guarantee, but more

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Speaker 2: often than not, the player with more experience rather than

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe like super high level traits a little

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Speaker 2: bit higher than the other guy. If you're comparing them,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take the deal with experience every time.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's that's just what the data tells us

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Speaker 2: at this point.

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Speaker 4: I mean we've seen it, man, I said, and saw

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Speaker 4: it on Sunday bo Nix being a guy that came

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Speaker 4: with sixty plus stars. We saw brock Perdy be a

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Speaker 4: seventh rounder. We had almost fifty starts when he entered.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the data does say that if you get

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Speaker 4: a guy who has significant stars, he tends to have

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Speaker 4: a better career. Just look, man, In anything in life,

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Speaker 4: experience and expertise matters. And the other way that you

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Speaker 4: develop an expertise is you have to have the experience.

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Speaker 4: And I think we're seeing it at quarterback.

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Speaker 2: This episode of Move the Sticks, follow along with us

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Speaker 2: on the rookie draft. Tell us how bad DJ is

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