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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Will not be deemed a culture.

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Speaker 3: Miss fan from the Chris Westling Podcast Studio and beyond.

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Speaker 3: It's Around the NFL, the Week eleven flagship program where

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Speaker 3: we break down everything that went down on this football Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I am Dan Hansis, and I am joined.

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Speaker 3: By two heroes in the afore mentioned Chris Westling Podcast studio,

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Speaker 3: Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler. I am in the guest

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Speaker 3: bedroom of Keith and Deb's. So that's that's the setup

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Speaker 3: as we begin today's show.

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Speaker 4: And yet it's not even the biggest story about the

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Speaker 4: setup here. Very nice Mark to have you back in

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Speaker 4: the crest with Chris Westling Podcast Studio.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: You know it's have a recurring health issue that is

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Speaker 6: bubbled up multiple times. And appreciate you guys, you know,

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Speaker 6: holding it down to anyone that some people that reached

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Speaker 6: out to me who have not had a chance to

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Speaker 6: thank some of the listeners. We've got a great group listeners,

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Speaker 6: So thank you, and I hope it doesn't occur ever again,

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Speaker 6: or at least not again during the regular season our playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I must say that we did miss you this week, Mark,

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Speaker 3: and the shows were I thought solid and entertaining, but

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Speaker 3: we need the cess dog in the mix, so getting

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Speaker 3: them back for the flagship show is a big deal.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just trying to be a culture fit at the

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Speaker 6: same time, So working on all these issues at once.

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Speaker 4: Plus we got to have it back when the Browns

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Speaker 4: are seven and three. There's something that's never happened in

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Speaker 4: the history of our podcast, but I know we'll get

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Speaker 4: to that later.

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Speaker 5: That's true.

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Speaker 2: That's true, Mark, don't be a culture misfit, culture fit.

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Speaker 6: I will say, Actually, the Browns were seven and three

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Speaker 6: once when Mike Petton was coach. I believe now it's

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Speaker 6: but they lost all the rest of their games, So

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Speaker 6: hopefully a different path this time for that crew.

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Speaker 3: We're going to get to the Browns in just a

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Speaker 3: little bit because they are a very nice story here.

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Speaker 2: But let's start with a game and a lot of

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Speaker 2: good games for the second straight Sunday. We had a

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Speaker 2: lot of games that went right down to the wire.

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Speaker 3: Not as many field goal kicks to end it, but

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Speaker 3: there were a few of those as well. But let's

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Speaker 3: start in Detroit where the Lions did battle with the

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Speaker 3: Bears and it was a little tighter than we expected.

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Speaker 6: Fields back, Lions rush four, field four, getting get hit

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Speaker 6: ball loose.

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Speaker 5: It's not the fun.

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Speaker 1: It's kicked out of the enzone. That's a safety, that's

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Speaker 1: a safe thing.

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Speaker 4: The Lions are gonna win this game.

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Speaker 1: Meg hudred six knocked loose.

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Speaker 4: Itick went out of the back of the enzone and

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Speaker 4: the Lions are gonna lock this one down.

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Speaker 7: What a game?

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Speaker 2: What a game? Whoa man?

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Speaker 3: We still got to get Dan Miller on the show,

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Speaker 3: but that is on the to do list.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, put that on the potential top ten calls of

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Speaker 4: the year.

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Speaker 7: Left.

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Speaker 3: Sure, I think Miller's all over that list once we

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Speaker 2: Yes, Miller for w x YT with the call.

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Speaker 3: Jared Goff through a thirty two yard touchdown, tested Jamison

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Speaker 3: up David Montgomery. Gough had one yard touchdown run with

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Speaker 3: heard there closed things out in a thirty one to

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Speaker 3: that got Justin Fields back on the field.

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Speaker 3: Goff has been so good this year and yet this

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Speaker 3: game he wasn't here's a quote, it was not my

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Speaker 4: I was shocked by the end of this game because

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Speaker 4: wasn't like I know, Goff had the three interceptions, one

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Speaker 4: But even beyond that, they were just outmanned. The time

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Speaker 4: all year any team down ten with five minutes to

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Speaker 1: And they scored so quickly.

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Speaker 4: Six plays seventy five yards including that Jamison will Jamison

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Speaker 4: Putt in a tough spot drops an absolute dime down

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Speaker 1: Would have been the game winner. It was a it

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Speaker 4: Gutsy throw to try, but it was a perfectly thrown

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Speaker 4: ball down the field. Tyler Scott drops the ball about

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Speaker 4: score quickly, and then make that defensive play. Just handled

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Speaker 4: all the situational football so well and markets cut. I

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Speaker 4: think it's kind of one of those other things, like

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Speaker 4: the Lions are eight and two, but this is a

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Speaker 4: nice little thing to add to your resume on a

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Speaker 4: day where you kind of stink and you're getting outplayed,

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Speaker 4: that hey, we can go score two touchdown to win

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Speaker 4: a ball game.

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Speaker 6: In the last five year, Yeah, in a way, it's

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Speaker 6: learning to win a different way. And then when they've

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Speaker 6: been dominant, they've been so dominant and this was a

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Speaker 6: typical and it was a typical Jared Goff from this

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Speaker 6: this going back to like twenty twenty one, and I

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Speaker 6: love the way they talked about him after because I

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Speaker 6: think if you're Jared Goff, like one of my seared

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Speaker 6: memories that affected my idea of GoF for songs, we

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Speaker 6: saw that Rams Patriots super Bowl in person, and you

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Speaker 6: could just tell pregame the moment just seemed too big

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Speaker 6: getting booed in, you know, by the fans during a

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Speaker 6: year where the Lions become the biggest story around. It's like,

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Speaker 6: And I thought another part of this too was that

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Speaker 6: that mattered a lot. And you can't go blame justin Fields.

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Speaker 6: This was just a Lions team that finds different ways

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Speaker 6: to win, and today it was like, go into the

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Speaker 2: Fields' return was successful.

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Speaker 3: They didn't get the win out of it, but he

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Speaker 3: finished sixteen to twenty three for one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 3: nine yards and a touchdown. Had a very nice deep

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Speaker 3: ball in this game. Including a touchdown throw to DJ More.

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Speaker 3: But in the end, yes, they weren't able to win

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Speaker 3: a game in which they turned the ball over on

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Speaker 2: That's a bitter pill to swallow.

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Speaker 3: And I think Shuk brought this up Greg on the

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Speaker 3: to the Lions. We're off to their best start in

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Speaker 3: many years now at eight and two, steaming towards a

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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving Day game where they were always kind of like

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Speaker 3: the laughing stock of Thanksgiving, and now they're one of

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Speaker 2: That's great, but you know, this schedule is not imposing.

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Speaker 3: So you take care of business against a team like

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Speaker 3: the Bears, there's gonna be questions about Detroit all the

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Speaker 3: their schedule is. I'm not not trying to be that guy,

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Speaker 3: but I'm just saying, like you had to pull a

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Speaker 3: have to be sharper than this when the real schedule arrives,

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Speaker 3: which might not be till the middle of January.

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Speaker 4: Right, They've got the Vikings a couple of times. They

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Speaker 4: have basically I think they have an at Cleveland in there.

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Speaker 5: I believe, well the Saints, Oh.

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Speaker 1: No, they have the Saints.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna end up losing one or two of these

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Speaker 4: games because they're not perfect. Because we saw what could

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Speaker 4: happen to golf today. They did run the ball very effectively,

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Speaker 4: including on even on those game you know, winning drives.

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Speaker 4: In the fourth quarter, they threw in a couple of

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Speaker 4: runs and that was good. Jameson Williams is starting to

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Speaker 4: make plays. But I was concerned about their defense now

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Speaker 4: coming off some bad performances out of the bye, and

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Speaker 4: then you play against Justin Fields.

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Speaker 1: He was the best player on the field.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he made good decisions, he made good throws.

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Speaker 1: It could have been more.

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Speaker 4: They scored, I believe, on five straight drives before that

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Speaker 4: Fields actually had a nice throw that was dropped on

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Speaker 1: They really had a chance.

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Speaker 4: And you're right, Mark, it was these fourth down decisions,

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Speaker 4: which if you look at each one, you can't kill Eberflus.

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Speaker 4: But he kicked a couple field goals in fourth down

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Speaker 4: situations one to go up two scores, but it was

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Speaker 4: and then another fourth and five when they decide to

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Speaker 4: go from nine to twelve. I didn't like that one

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Speaker 4: at all, and I think, big picture for the Bears,

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Speaker 4: his defense again after a great game like collapses in

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Speaker 4: the big spot and he is now I think something

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Speaker 4: like five and twenty three, and I think games like

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Speaker 4: this they're not gonna help him stick around picks.

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Speaker 2: Any other thoughts on this one, Greg that you took

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Speaker 4: It by the way six and twenty two. I want

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Speaker 4: to be accurate when I'm getting after it. No, I

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Speaker 4: think I hit the big ones. I will give the

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Speaker 4: Lions some credit here that they ran the ball really

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Speaker 4: well against a good Bears run defense. It's been good

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Speaker 4: all year, and Gibbs Montgomery like that is a thing.

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Speaker 4: It shows in this game they do not want to

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Speaker 4: fall behind and like get into those sort of game scripts,

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Speaker 4: because when they can get ahead and run the ball,

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Speaker 4: they are toughest.

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Speaker 6: There was a play in this game where Jill and

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Speaker 6: Johnson dropped what would have been another interception in oh

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Speaker 6: yeah six. It's like goth Not all of those interceptions

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Speaker 6: interceptions were on him, but he came close to us

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Speaker 6: talking a very different way about him this evening.

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Speaker 4: He could have had five picks. He could have had

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Speaker 4: that pick six that Jalen Johnson dropped. It would have

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Speaker 4: ended the game. So the Lion's getting a little lucky too,

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Speaker 4: but that never hurts, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, So the Lions get the Packers. On Thanksgiving Day,

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Speaker 3: it was the Packers fighting for their playoff lives against

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Speaker 3: the La Chargers, and it's another one that went down

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Speaker 6: Yeah, on the hottest seat around maybe west of Ron Rivera.

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Speaker 4: And I don't need to hear that Justin Herbert can't

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like I think it's like you'd have to

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Speaker 6: It's like, what this is the opposite of what Brandon

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Speaker 10: I have full confidence, like I've told you, and like

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Speaker 10: And that's where it's at. So you can stop asking

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Speaker 2: And this is you know, we've been doing this long enough.

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Speaker 2: This is a coach who knows that he's in trouble.

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Speaker 2: Either, I don't.

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Speaker 4: Man, there, he goes.

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Speaker 6: It's I mean, you've all been like in hot water

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Speaker 4: No, I mean, I feel like we could play Brandon's

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Speaker 2: They don't get the playoff.

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Speaker 3: They have a backup center in and you see Herbert

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Speaker 2: Ultimately, I just I have a bit of.

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Speaker 3: the right now C J. Stroud looking to keep it going.

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Speaker 2: Here's the game.

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Speaker 1: Here comes the blitz.

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Speaker 5: Fourth and eight at the Houston twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: Murray and the gun.

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Speaker 1: Murray throwing downfield to his left hand. They cut play,

447
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 1: knocked the way. Steven Nelson and the Texans takeover on.

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Speaker 11: Downs twenty one, sixteen day at the ball with thirty

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Speaker 11: seconds to go.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, there was I don't know, man, it was

451
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Speaker 2: a hard week.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was here this one. I was thinking maybe the

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Speaker 2: Rams game.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Roberts, we're giving out bongos and beating

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it was a fun game.

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Speaker 2: The text.

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Speaker 1: The Texans were almost team of atm man.

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Speaker 2: What are we doing?

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Speaker 5: I don't know's choice?

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't care. It was a fun game. Where

463
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Speaker 2: would you have gone this week?

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Speaker 4: Oh he don't want to know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bill's jets. I don't want. I didn't want to

466
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Speaker 2: do Bill jets to you, Dan, give it to me.

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Speaker 5: No musical instruments in that event.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think, I think if we're if you

469
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Speaker 3: asked me so now I'll answer, I would have given.

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Speaker 2: Them to the Packers.

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Speaker 3: Really okay, getting back in the mix, Well you asked me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you win, semmy loosen. CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud threw for three hundred and thirty six yards with

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Speaker 3: two touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: That was Mark Vandermire on the call. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Kilt and the.

477
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Speaker 3: Texans on a day where they weren't overly sharp, still

478
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Speaker 3: do what they need to do to beat the Cardinals

479
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Speaker 3: twenty one to sixteen. And Mark, greg excuse me, that

480
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 3: was the call that we heard. Was once again the

481
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Speaker 3: defense getting the big stop when it came down to

482
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Speaker 3: it in a sign of, you know, the emerging idea

483
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Speaker 3: that the Texans have some depth here to win games

484
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Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball. That's a huge step

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Speaker 3: in becoming a team.

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Speaker 4: Right defense, Will Anderson Derek Stingley, their top five pick,

487
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Speaker 4: their top three pick from a year ago makes a

488
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Speaker 4: huge interception. Their offensive line is playing much better. And

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Speaker 4: this game, while I get what you're saying with the bongos,

490
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Speaker 4: it was about as crazy as humanly possible a game

491
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Speaker 4: could be that had only seven points in the second half.

492
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Speaker 4: It was just like turnover after turnover, fourth down stop

493
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Speaker 4: after fourth down stop.

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Speaker 1: Three times in.

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Speaker 4: The fourth quarter, Kyler Murray had a chance to go

496
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Speaker 4: maybe take the lead with the touchdown, and three times

497
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Speaker 4: they came up short on fourth and short, so they

498
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 4: had three straight turnovers on dons. One was just a

499
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Speaker 4: total miss by Kyler. He had a couple throws today

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Speaker 4: that were just off target, and so that sometimes happens

501
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Speaker 4: when you returned from a torn acl You didn't really

502
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Speaker 4: see it the first week. You saw it this week,

503
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Speaker 4: just like fluttering balls. Maybe it was just weird. One

504
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 4: came on a well time blitz. We heard that. That

505
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Speaker 4: was the last play call. I think the Demico Ryans

506
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Speaker 4: just one right there, and then one was on a

507
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Speaker 4: bad route I thought by the receiver didn't make a

508
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Speaker 4: good play. So it all happened, and they were only

509
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Speaker 4: in this game because the Texans, who racked up three

510
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Speaker 4: hundred and thirty three yards in the first half, just

511
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Speaker 4: couldn't quite put as many points as they should have

512
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Speaker 4: on the You mentioned Stroud with three interceptions, but other

513
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Speaker 4: than those three interceptions, and one was on a drop mark,

514
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 4: like he couldn't have possibly played any better. That's a

515
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 4: big other then, But other than those two interceptions, he

516
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Speaker 4: made some absolutely insane play.

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Speaker 6: I just find him so watchable, like he's like a

518
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Speaker 6: fringe MVP guy for me. I know that this game

519
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Speaker 6: like this could you know, I get shadows some of

520
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 6: that kind of voting, but I think it's incredible to

521
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Speaker 6: see that a rookie quarterback because we're watching so many

522
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 6: like second and third year quarterbacks still struggle and show

523
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 6: inconsistency and a lack of growth, and then it's so

524
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Speaker 6: frustrating to watch.

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Speaker 5: But CJ.

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Speaker 6: Stroud, like his relationship already with a fellow rookie in

527
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Speaker 6: Tank Dell. I mean, there were some plays today where

528
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Speaker 6: like their connection and their mind mild is already one

529
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Speaker 6: of the best in the league. And it's like I

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Speaker 6: forgive some of these turnovers because that I just would

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Speaker 6: expect from a rookie, especially one that's throwing the ball

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Speaker 6: as much as he is. And it's like the upside

533
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Speaker 6: is just simply insane, and it's like send them right

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Speaker 6: into the second round of the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: That's how I view the text, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Stroud had three interceptions excuse me, two interceptions. Uh, he

538
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Speaker 3: was throwing the ball into tight windows. Didn't it always

539
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Speaker 3: work out? But you know what the guy believes. He

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00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 3: finished with three Sunday excuse me, and he had two

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Speaker 3: all season entering the game. After the game, he did

542
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Speaker 3: not like sound like a young quarterback who's going to

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Speaker 3: turn gun shy after making some mistakes.

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Speaker 12: And man, Steph Curry, don't ever stop shooting. I'm gonna

545
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Speaker 12: keep I'm keep laying to ride, you know. And I

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Speaker 12: got a shame of my game. I definitely gotta be smarter,

547
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Speaker 12: but I don't like, I don't know confidence is taken

548
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Speaker 12: away from me. I'm gonna keep laying to fly.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's obviously what you want to hear from

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Speaker 3: your quarterback unless he continues to have three interception games.

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Speaker 2: But you obviously giving him a pass.

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Speaker 3: Here Mark and that is also a famous Cesstag quote,

553
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Speaker 3: ain't no shame to my game.

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Speaker 2: I've heard you say that, Yeah you can.

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Speaker 6: You can hear me saying that around the building. Uh,

556
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Speaker 6: you know at any time of day. That's true.

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Speaker 4: His his like throw at the end of the half,

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Speaker 4: and I'm sure people have seen it. The forty yard

559
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 4: touchdown Tank Dell was just it showed everything from these

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Speaker 4: two players. It was just an insane route. I don't

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Speaker 4: you know it was a triple move. I don't think

562
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Speaker 4: the third move was play on. That was freestyle. But

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Speaker 4: Dell is snapping off these routes in a way that

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Speaker 4: I still have a feeling like as high as you think,

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Speaker 4: like the ceiling is for Tank Dell, Like, I don't

566
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Speaker 4: think people realize it's not high enough.

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Speaker 1: He is as good as like.

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Speaker 4: As any rookie that's come into the league this year

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Speaker 4: in terms of his wide recet, Like, his routes are insane.

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Speaker 4: The way he wins is insane, the way he wins

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Speaker 4: on the outside he ends up with eight for one,

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Speaker 4: forty nine and one, And because he's one hundred and

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Speaker 4: sixty five pounds, I think people think it's like some

574
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 4: sort of weird creation of the system. But no, it's

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Speaker 4: like he is just getting wide open. I mean, Stroud

576
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Speaker 4: was on pace at halftime for five hundred yards in

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Speaker 4: this game, and a lot of them were like these,

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Speaker 4: like third third reads where he's getting into tight windows.

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Speaker 4: It was really really awesome to watch, even though they

580
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 4: kind of blew it in the in the second half.

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Speaker 4: And Kyler at least he's running well, like he didn't

582
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 4: throw it great, but seven for fifty one on the ground,

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Speaker 4: including a touchdown a forty yard run called back by penalty.

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Speaker 1: Like he looked ready to go this sea two weeks

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Speaker 1: in a row. Yep.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's take a break and then we will

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Speaker 3: continue on. All right, we are back. Let's dive right

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Speaker 3: back into the games. And it's time now for the

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Speaker 3: Sunday Drive presented by the first ever Toyota Grand Highlander.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 3: Another game that went right down to the end, Rams Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: The rivalry goes on from.

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Speaker 11: The left hash fifty five yards, So decide Week eleven.

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Speaker 2: Here's his kick, very right. It is no God, no God?

595
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Speaker 2: Why rights?

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Speaker 11: And the Rams celebrates a week eleven to three seventeen sixteen,

597
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 11: and only three seconds left. The three game losing streak

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Speaker 11: is over. The November losing streak. He's over.

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Speaker 3: The great JB Long for Rams Radio with the call,

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Speaker 3: and yes, it was Jason Myers who could not connect

601
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 3: from fifty five yards out with three seconds to play

602
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Speaker 3: and have allowed the Rams to escape with a seventeen

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Speaker 3: to sixteen win over the Seahawks. And yes, like JB said,

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Speaker 3: that's ended the losing streak for the Rams and it

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Speaker 3: also keeps them live four and six in the NFC

606
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Speaker 3: playoff picture. Greg let's start with the quarterbacks because Matthew

607
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: Stafford he returned from an injury. He led the team

608
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Speaker 3: on two scoring drives in the fourth quarter to complete

609
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Speaker 3: a comeback. Gino leaves with an injury of his own

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Speaker 3: and then comes back in a lot of drama down

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Speaker 3: the stretch here.

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Speaker 1: So much drama.

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Speaker 4: Cooper Cupp also left this game early with an ankle injury,

614
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 4: never returned. Ken Walker left with an oblique injury right

615
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 4: off the bat, never returned, and that sounds like a

616
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Speaker 4: multiple week injury the way Pete Carroll talked about it.

617
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Speaker 4: But Gino missed two drives in the second half and

618
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Speaker 4: it ended up being really crucial. And it was interesting

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Speaker 4: because on the second of those two drives, he had

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Speaker 4: his helmet on and he looked like he wanted to

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Speaker 4: go in, but they decided at that point they're still winning,

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Speaker 4: and I think the score was sixteen to seven or

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Speaker 4: sixteen to fourteen at that point, and they went with

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Speaker 4: a second drive for Lock, and he throws an interception

625
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 4: on that drive. Even though Gino seemed like he was ready,

626
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 4: he got hit in the elbow by a helmet and

627
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 4: was able to play through it. Gets the ball back

628
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 4: with one thirty one to go and no timeouts and

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Speaker 4: gets them into field goal range. The problem was they

630
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 4: could have been much closer. You kick a fifty five

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Speaker 4: yard field goal at eight seconds left, it's not a

632
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 4: bad job to get in that position. But they were

633
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 4: in that position with thirty seconds to go, and they

634
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 4: ended up handing the ball off for two yards and

635
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 4: everyone including myself, is killing Pete Carroll. But Gino said

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Speaker 4: after the game that that communication and his helmet went

637
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 4: out and he thought he saw a look quickly and.

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00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: And he he just was at.

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00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 4: That point freestyling and making the calls and he called

640
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: the running play there, so unfortunate timing for the headset

641
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 4: to go out there, an unfortunate decision ultimately by Gino

642
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 4: not to clock it there or throw a pass, because

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Speaker 4: they could have gotten a lot closer than that fifty

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Speaker 4: five yards.

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Speaker 3: Can I just say Mark or or Gino messed up

646
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Speaker 3: and then he made up the headset thing and and

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Speaker 3: Greg bought into it.

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Speaker 4: Hooklines, Well, that's him, that's him taking the blame. That's

649
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 4: him taking the Because Pete Carroll, you know, the way

650
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: he talked about it so obliquely, I'm like, what is

651
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 4: he talking about here, Because he's like, well, that didn't

652
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 4: go the way we wanted. He admitted it, but he

653
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 4: he basically was trying to cover for what happened, and

654
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 4: you know, just told them the truth. That was not

655
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 4: covering himself. He's saying, I messed up. I should not

656
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Speaker 4: have called a run there.

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Speaker 6: Well, yes, I think to Dan's point, we just don't

658
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 6: tech a lot, have like a z Repruiter film on

659
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 6: what exactly happened on that effect.

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Speaker 5: And that's fine.

661
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 6: But the Seattle starts four and four on third downs

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Speaker 6: and then goes one and eleven the rest of the game.

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Speaker 5: They kind of, I think part of the story here.

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Speaker 1: They're the worst third down team in the NFL. They

665
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Speaker 1: have been all year.

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Speaker 6: It's plagued them NonStop. And the Rams, who in two

667
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Speaker 6: games have allowed three points to Seattle in the second half.

668
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Speaker 6: I thought you kind of remind me of when we

669
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Speaker 6: were in London and they came out against the Cardinals.

670
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Speaker 6: The Rams, after very being able to do nothing on

671
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Speaker 6: the ground, came out and kind of dominated and had

672
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Speaker 6: a couple of drives where they just marched up and

673
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Speaker 6: down the field running the ball. But they kind of

674
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 6: let Seattle back into this by throwing that pass down.

675
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Speaker 5: With it the Rams did.

676
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Speaker 6: They let Seattle back in that choice to throw it

677
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Speaker 6: and it gives Seattle to essentially the ball back with

678
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Speaker 6: about a minute forty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there were a lot of fascinating game management decisions.

680
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 4: I think Pete Carroll really blew it at the end

681
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 4: of the first half by not taking a time out,

682
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 4: could have given his team when the Rams were going

683
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 4: into score, some time to possibly respond. And like, that's

684
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Speaker 4: just that's just how Pee Carroll works defensively, not being aggressive.

685
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 4: But what you're referring to, Mark is the Rams y

686
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 4: had the ball inside the ten after two really impressive

687
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 4: drives where they ran it down the Seahawks' throats in

688
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter, to score those ten points and make

689
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 4: this comeback, and they chose to pass instead of making

690
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 4: those Seahawks burn their timeouts. In hindsight, I was with you,

691
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 4: that was my first reaction. But in hindsight, you had

692
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 4: to throw the ball to try to score a touchdown there,

693
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 4: So I just I can't kill them. They tried to

694
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 4: be aggressive going to Puka Nokua. They didn't execute it there.

695
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 4: Either way, the Seahawks would have gotten the ball back,

696
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 4: it just would have been with like fifty five seconds

697
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 4: in no timeouts. It's it's such a collapse though, Dan,

698
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 4: and this is one of those games if you're a

699
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 4: Seahawks fan that feels like, oh my god, this game

700
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Speaker 4: might ruin our season. Because at one point in the game,

701
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: the Seahawks had thirty four offensive plays to the Rams

702
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 4: nineteen yards, So they had two hundred and five yards

703
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 4: on those forty five plays to nineteen yards. For three quarters,

704
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 4: they absolutely looked like the better team, and they just

705
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 4: didn't quite take advantage of enough. Gino gets hurt, and

706
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 4: then the fourth quarter their run defense, which has been

707
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 4: great all year, kind of gets mowed over by freaking

708
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 4: Royce Freeman.

709
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Speaker 1: It is a tough way to lose.

710
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: Now, I can't Royce Freeman still in the league. I

711
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: love it.

712
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's twelve penalties, Greg, Yeah, for one hundred and

713
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: thirty yards, the most penalties for any team this season,

714
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 3: the most for Seattle since twenty and eighteen. And you're right,

715
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: like you say that this might ruin our season. This

716
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: is just one game. There's still a team with a

717
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: winning record. In fact, six and four is pretty nice

718
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: spot to be. But then you look at the schedule

719
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 3: up ahead. They got the Niners on Thanksgiving Night, then

720
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Speaker 3: they get the Niners again in a couple of weeks,

721
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Speaker 3: and they also get the Cowboys and Eagles. This is

722
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: a murderers roa stretch. So this is a win at home.

723
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Speaker 3: Excuse me, there's a win on the road. You want

724
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 3: to stick in your back pocket and then set up

725
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: and say and hope, you know, maybe we could split

726
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: those next four. Now you kind of have to find

727
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 3: a way to win and then maybe three, or you're

728
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 3: gonna find yourself in dangerous, dangerous spot late in the

729
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: regular season.

730
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Speaker 6: I would tend to think we probably will not trust

731
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Speaker 6: Seattle after that rugged three game stretch.

732
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Speaker 5: And I don't need a.

733
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 4: Score game and it's the next four too, so you

734
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 4: got to win one of those scours.

735
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Speaker 5: Trust them.

736
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Speaker 6: Coming out of this game, I do have a question,

737
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 6: like if you're Geno Smith, like in terms of medically

738
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 6: clearing Gino Smith, like you're out. He's got a big

739
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 6: rap on his arm and shoulder. Yeah, and then it's

740
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 6: like you're in. You're playing again. What happened over the

741
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 6: course of five or six minutes that suddenly greenlit Gino Smith.

742
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 6: We don't even know if he'll be able to play

743
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 6: on Thanksgiving.

744
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: I I I think he just can't heat.

745
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 4: What Pete Carroll said was Gino convinced them he could play,

746
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 4: and I'm sure they're thinking twice because I think he

747
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 4: was ready to go to the drive before and they

748
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 4: decided to leave Locke in there. And Gino had a

749
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 4: good game overall, two thirty three and a touchdown.

750
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Speaker 1: You know, avoided the interception.

751
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 4: He he made good decisions and throws it in the last drive,

752
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 4: but the balls did kind of come out funny if

753
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 4: you were looking at him. He had one weird sideline

754
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 4: pass the metcalf and even the one over the middle,

755
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 4: like they went in right direction. It got there, but

756
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 4: they were a little wobbly, So I don't know if

757
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 4: this elbow injury is going to be an issue. And

758
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 4: one reason I don't I just don't believe in the

759
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 4: Seahawks team right now because they just have too many

760
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 4: things going wrong with them. Neither of these teams could

761
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 4: protect Stafford and Gino were just bruised and battered.

762
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Speaker 1: Both of them are running for their lives the whole game.

763
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Speaker 2: I'm bummed about Cooper Cup.

764
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Speaker 3: This is now back to back seasons where the injury

765
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 3: bug is biting on him hard in that you know,

766
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 3: we talked about the idea of getting Stafford back, and

767
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 3: then you get the Big three with Nakua and Cup

768
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Speaker 3: together and it just seems like it's starting to be

769
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 3: one of those seasons for the Rams where you can't

770
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Speaker 3: get your guys back together at the same time for

771
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: any length of time. But otherwise, a very nice win

772
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 3: for Sean McVay and company. It always, you know, it

773
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: always means a little more in the NFC West.

774
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Speaker 4: To get swept him by the way he owns Pete Carroll.

775
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 4: There's something about this matchup. He swept them, and he's

776
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 4: kind of killed him since Pete Carroll, especially in the

777
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Speaker 4: second hand there are Ye.

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Speaker 3: That was the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota. Let's go play.

779
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: Learn more at toyota dot com slash Grand Highlander. All right,

780
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 3: so it wasn't you know, I'm in New York this

781
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 3: weekend and you know, spending getting a lot of family

782
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 3: time in It's very nice. At the last moment, I

783
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 3: decided to bring my two boys as well, so they

784
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 3: they've been bonding with their cousins and.

785
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: Their uncles and aunts. It's been very nice.

786
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 3: And to kind of keep it all in that headspace

787
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: of where I grew up, I did draft the Giants

788
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: Mark on Thursday show, So Poppy's not next to me

789
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 3: sitting in the big brown chair drinking roop here cursing

790
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: off Phil Simms. But still there was something nice about

791
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: watching the Giants the Autumn Leaves and the Crisp November air,

792
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 3: and they delivered a performance set reminded you of the

793
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 3: old Giants on Sunday.

794
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 9: Takes the snap back to throw, steps up under pressure,

795
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 9: runs out of a sack, then loves it.

796
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 13: And it's intercepting by Isaiah Sevens running down the love

797
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 13: sideline twenty fifteen ten to five touchdown. Giants Isaiah Simmons

798
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 13: with the pick six to enter with sixteen seconds to go,

799
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 13: third interception by Howell, and the Giants take out the groom.

800
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 5: They're sweeping Washington again.

801
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: Get gone.

802
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 2: Who I mean that's Bob Papa.

803
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 4: I mean.

804
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: Lost season for the Giants.

805
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: It's a nice I would maybe give the Giants of

806
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: bongos for one night.

807
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think you know, when Tommy DeVito gets

808
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 4: thirty one on you, you get some bongos.

809
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 2: He got to veto throwing three touchdown passes.

810
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,479
Speaker 3: He got Isaiah Simmons pick six taken to the house

811
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 3: one of six. Count them six commander's turnovers in a

812
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: thirty one nineteen home loss to the last place New

813
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: York Giants. Great line here, you know the old writing

814
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: on deadline. You'll have those one sentenced grafts that hit hard.

815
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: The ugly game got even smellier afterward when there was

816
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: no hot water in the stadium for players to shower.

817
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 2: You know, it's the.

818
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 3: Most annoying thing. We can't even blame Daniel Snyder. Well,

819
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 3: we kind of can still blame him.

820
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 2: This is his old dilapidated building.

821
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what a dark, dark game for the Commanders

822
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 3: and I guess I'll just start with the Commanders, because

823
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: they are a team that, at least entering Sunday, had

824
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: some more relevance than the Giants.

825
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: I think it's not just us, it's everyone.

826
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 3: Every time we seem to get behind the idea of

827
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 3: Sam Howell, he has an outrageously poor game, and this

828
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 3: was an outrageously poor game. By how he didn't get

829
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 3: a chance to watch this yet some of these interceptions

830
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: he threw were just wretched, and he did not give

831
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 3: his team a great opportunity to win this game. And

832
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 3: I got a shout out mark Tommy DeVito because this

833
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: guy who's become something of an internet meme at this point,

834
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 3: and we talked about on an NFL Plus last week.

835
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 3: Greg just having fun with the idea of the guy

836
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: that has his mom making his bed and he's starting

837
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 3: for the NFL. He played really well in this game,

838
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 3: lighting up Washington's defense despite taking a beating. He got

839
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 3: sacked five times in the first quarter in this game,

840
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 3: but hung tough, much tougher than his counter counterpart in

841
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 3: New York, Zach Wilson. And this was a nice win

842
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 3: for the Giants and a good look for Brian Dable

843
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 3: quite frankly, whose team in a lost year was playing

844
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: very hard throughout.

845
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, because de Veto looked completely utterly lost at sea

846
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 6: when we first saw him. And this is a short

847
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 6: amount of time to get someone who's not a high

848
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 6: draft picked on any level ready, and that's kind of

849
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 6: what dables special sauce was meant to be.

850
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 5: So I think it's a win for him.

851
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 6: If you're Ron Rivera, you were kind of hitching your

852
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 6: wagon to the fact that you stood by Sam how

853
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 6: and no one really believed or necessarily thought that was

854
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 6: the smartest thing to do.

855
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 5: Howell has been I thought, really watchable.

856
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 6: He had been keeping the turnovers down prior to this week,

857
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 6: and even the like six nine sack games had disappeared.

858
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 5: But this kind of sounds like that Buffalo wipeout.

859
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 6: And if you get that version of him, that's wild

860
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 6: because like you have to go back to nineteen eighty

861
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 6: four when a Washington team that sacked a quarterback nine

862
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 6: or any team sacked a quarterback nine plus times and

863
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 6: still lost by double digits.

864
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Speaker 5: It's like, if you're on Rivera, your.

865
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 6: Calling card is no matter what, our defense is gonna

866
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 6: cause a problem for the opposing quarterback and it's like

867
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 6: you didn't do any of that today.

868
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 4: Well no, I mean, and it has an all season,

869
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 4: which is why we don't need to belabor it. Rivera

870
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 4: is the one coach out there that, like, we know

871
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 4: he's not making it. He's ann next season. I guess,

872
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 4: I guess you could create a scenario where they win

873
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 4: out like then maybe he would have a chance. But

874
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 4: borring that, it's a tough spot. And it's because his

875
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 4: defense has been so bad. And how about DeVito dimes

876
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 4: out there? He now has six touchdowns. I mean, that's

877
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 4: I don't even need to check. That's gotta be more

878
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: than Daniel Jones.

879
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: Has this year.

880
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 4: It is, It's definitely more than Kenny Pickett has this year. Uh,

881
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 4: de Vito, it's happening in Sequon we talked about Saquon

882
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 4: has been running his ass of one hundred and forty

883
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 4: yards from scrimmage in two touchdowns.

884
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: Nice job by Saquon.

885
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: Hey, Eric Roberts, you know it's not too late. We

886
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 3: can give Tommy de Vido some bongos on a Sunday night.

887
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 6: It might be his last chance, all right, I mean

888
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 6: I'm down if you guys are like an unshowered deviat.

889
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 4: I didn't know that we could do it in the

890
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 4: middle of the game.

891
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: Hey, you know, hey, you know what really?

892
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: You know, when he after he threw his first touchdown

893
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: through two touchdowns to Barkley, he went sprinting down the

894
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: field doing that, you know, like the Italian dude thing.

895
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: We're like holding the fingers up like he is.

896
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: There's there's a level of self awareness Greg that I

897
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 3: was not expecting from a guy that said his all

898
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 3: time dinner features Elon Musk, who else was it?

899
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 4: Floyd Mayweather and Jeff Bezos.

900
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, there was a little more depth of character

901
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 3: or a sense of humor than I was expecting.

902
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of creeps and maybe another creep. Okay,

903
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 4: selling your own plank.

904
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: No, But honestly, he played very well. He really did.

905
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 3: And and I'm not saying he's the future of the position,

906
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 3: but he's really helping out Dable here because this could

907
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: have this could have really degenerated into an all time

908
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 3: humiliation season that would put Dable in trouble. But now

909
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 3: I'm starting to think they're going to be able to

910
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 3: kind of get to the finish line with Dignity Attack

911
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 3: because I think he's good enough.

912
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: Like with the old trope Gregory, we talked about it

913
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: last week.

914
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 3: You know what, with this game, he's going to be

915
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: around for ten years as a backup.

916
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: You know, he bought a whole career.

917
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, sure, but I bet but right now,

918
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 3: but for one for one day, he really did play

919
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: well and good for him. And uh and and I'll

920
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 3: give a shout out Mark.

921
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: I didn't get a check. Chance to check his final line.

922
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: But every time I do a Giants game on Sundays,

923
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 3: Cavon Thibodau's making plays and he really is having a

924
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 3: nice year or two with the Giants. He's absolutely made

925
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 3: the leap, and I think they have a guy going

926
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: forward that can anchor that that line.

927
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, two sacks, two tackles for loss, Like he seems

928
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 6: to be the guy that shows up regularly. And this defense,

929
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 6: I mean, I know, like they've had a couple of

930
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 6: sneaky good games. I look back on the Bills when

931
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 6: I'm like, all right, I'm not sure what to make

932
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 6: of that one because of what's happened in Buffalo. But no,

933
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 6: this isn't great anything you can cling to if you're

934
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 6: Brian's able.

935
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: This is great. They now passed the Patriots in Tankathon.

936
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 4: The tank the Patriots are into that top three here,

937
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 4: and we got a big Patriots Giants Tankathon matchup next week.

938
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 4: Well you should pick We need that quarterback to Vito. Yeah,

939
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 4: save your job, get out of they watch.

940
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: Look, we haven't heard that a lot either.

941
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: And I was watching the games with Keith Hansas for

942
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: the first time, like on a football Sunday in fourteen years.

943
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 3: Wo And you know, he's a little rusty on like

944
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 3: you know, who to be rooting for and against. It's

945
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: good that I was there to help him because he

946
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: likes Herbert a lot.

947
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 2: So he's rooting for the Chargers.

948
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: And I'm like, Dad, because I have these two games

949
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: on as like, Dad, actually the Chargers have the tiebreaker

950
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 3: on the Jets and they have a similar record, so

951
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 3: we've got to be against the Chargers.

952
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: And then he's like, oh, those Giants, those dogs.

953
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 3: My dad hates the Giants more than anyone hates anything

954
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: in the world. And I was like that the Giants

955
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: win this game, it actually gives them a worst draft

956
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: pick and they fall out of contention for one of

957
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: these big college prospects. He's like, all right, Danny, So

958
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 3: it was good to have, like have that dynamic back

959
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 3: and forth.

960
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 2: I've missed it.

961
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 5: You're a man of reason.

962
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,959
Speaker 2: Oh you're right, Danny. All right, let's move on and

963
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: uh yeah.

964
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 3: Check in with the other team that plays in the Meadowlands,

965
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 3: who traveled up to Orchard Park to face a Bills

966
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 3: team that needed a win in the worst way, and

967
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 3: they got it.

968
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 4: Bobby, Bobby Alan making a check Bobby Wagner back to

969
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 4: the shotgun.

970
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 6: He goes, here's the snap, pre man Rush Jets drop

971
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 6: an eight and the passes complete to Shakir gets away

972
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 6: for the tag un to the.

973
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 5: Corty thirty five thirty.

974
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: Doubles back to the twin still loose piece, going all

975
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 3: the way for the touchdown.

976
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 13: Eighty one yards to paydirt Khalil ship here.

977
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: Wow, Chris Brown with the call, WGR.

978
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: I think that's a fitting call for this game, which

979
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: was a very one sided affair thirty two to six

980
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 3: in favor of the Bills over the fading Jets. And

981
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 3: it was Sauce Gardner that got beat in coverage by

982
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 3: Shakiir on that beautiful throw by Josh Allen and then

983
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 3: a Gardener sprints down the field, uses his ketchup speed

984
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: and then is unable to bring it down. Shakira in

985
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: around the twenty or so and he goes in. And

986
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 3: this was kind of the game where the dam finally

987
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 3: broke for a Jets defense that had been carrying this

988
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 3: team all season, and after another disgraceful effort by the offense,

989
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: it was the defense that also caved.

990
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 2: Josh Allen led the way.

991
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 3: A very strong effort from Allen with his new offensive coordinator,

992
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 3: and a Buffalo team that scored points on six of

993
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 3: its first eight possessions gets back above five hundred. And also,

994
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 3: I think importantly Mark has a win that they can

995
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: kind of feel good about. And you could kind of

996
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 3: sense that with some of the it was an endless game,

997
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: the game would not end it Maybe.

998
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 2: I have to check.

999
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 3: It might be the longest four quarter game of the season,

1000
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: and considering it was so one sided, it felt terminal

1001
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 3: at least for interminable for this Jets fan. But there

1002
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 3: was some swagger in this game and some chess pump pumping,

1003
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 3: and this idea that the Bills, who have been struggling

1004
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 3: to really find their swagger. This is the type of

1005
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 3: game against the Jet team that's fading but still where

1006
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 3: you can find yourself a little bit and build off it.

1007
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was a legitimate stink on Buffalo all week

1008
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 6: leading up to this game, so it take I mean,

1009
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 6: I don't recall at any moment Sean McDermott being widely

1010
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 6: criticized by so many different people for so many different reasons,

1011
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 6: and you just felt like the bow could break down,

1012
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 6: will come baby and cradle and all and all that business.

1013
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 5: But this kind of stops all that. And yet I'm.

1014
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 6: Not sure totally what to take from it, because you're

1015
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 6: watching a non functional offense and it's like, I kind

1016
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 6: of felt like a game when they took away the

1017
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 6: opening kick return, the Bills and the Jets were suddenly

1018
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 6: a sitting duck. And out comes the offense in twenty

1019
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 6: minutes into this affair, they have zero yards. Obviously, zero

1020
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 6: yards per play. That is pretty unusual. We've seen some

1021
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 6: weird games this year, but you're watching a non functional offense,

1022
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 6: and I think that that weight of that and probably

1023
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 6: what is a fractured locker room at some point, to

1024
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 6: some degree, what can you do as a defense. The

1025
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 6: Bills start to make plays and It's like there are

1026
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 6: a couple teams out there where they're leaning hard on

1027
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 6: their great defense and really problematic offense and you're gonna

1028
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 6: get these things. And it's like the four and six

1029
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 6: Jets right now, there's got to be a lot of

1030
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 6: division inside that locker room.

1031
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: They're cooked. I mean I would stick a fork in them.

1032
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 3: But I'm emotional right now because they're my team.

1033
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: And it's a tough game Friday Field.

1034
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got their on Black Friday, and but they're

1035
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 3: getting They're going there.

1036
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: They're playing the Dolphins. It's at the metal ends.

1037
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 3: But their confidence is at an all time low as

1038
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 3: a team. I could tell you that for sure just

1039
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 3: by watching them. And they finally benched Zach Wilson in

1040
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: the third quarter. I mean, this is a game that

1041
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: it's all there again, and it's so frustrating that we're

1042
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: back here where the Jets are the butt of jokes.

1043
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 3: But this is just what seems to happen when you

1044
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 3: tie your wagon to a team like this. Like Wilson

1045
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 3: at one point, coming off the sideline coming back from

1046
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: break is backpedaling. I guess what he's kind of communicating

1047
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 3: with the coach and he falls over, he trips on

1048
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 3: his own feet and falls to the ground, and I

1049
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 3: looked over to my brother and I said, you know,

1050
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 3: he's throwing an interception now, because this is the jet thing,

1051
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: and not only is that gonna happen. And sure enough,

1052
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 3: three plays later, he throws the interception that more or

1053
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 3: less puts the game to bed. They finally put in

1054
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: Tim Boyle, and obviously he doesn't do much either. They

1055
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 3: scored six points one touchdown in the first half. But

1056
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 3: this is a team that is getting everything they deserve

1057
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: now because it's all exposed all the things that they

1058
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: were skating by on with all those crazy wins, and

1059
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 3: they were ignoring the real problems with this offense and

1060
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 3: refusing to make real changes, and this was all coming

1061
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 3: and building to this point in these last few weeks

1062
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: during this losing streak, I think everyone has been exposed,

1063
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 3: from Joe Douglas on down for making a terrible mess

1064
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 3: out of what could have still been a fun, exciting season,

1065
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: even after the Aaron Rodgers injury. So they deserve everything

1066
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: they're getting right now. With the with the quarterback play,

1067
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: the fact that Nathaniel Hackett has a free pass on

1068
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 3: this team is absolutely atrocious.

1069
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 2: But you know exactly why he has a free.

1070
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 4: He's the one guy.

1071
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: Oh that's the change. He's the guy changes.

1072
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 4: Changed it, but it didn't make any difference.

1073
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: Here are the big changes that I noticed in this game.

1074
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 3: You put the overmatched offensive coordinator in a booth. You

1075
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 3: cut the third string running back in this game. I

1076
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: didn't see much else. And they're trying to pull the

1077
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 3: wool over the eyes of the fan base and acting

1078
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 3: like they're trying to really make changes, but the truth

1079
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 3: is they're not doing anything.

1080
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 2: And this is what happens. And if I'm Aaron.

1081
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 3: Rodgers, who supposedly reportedly was targeting a Christmas Eve return, no, bro,

1082
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: You've got a terrible offensive line that got further weekend

1083
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 3: by Makai Becton's ankle injury today. And I think it's

1084
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 3: just a matter of time now before this whole locker

1085
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 3: room breaks because they already had a players meeting players

1086
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 3: only meeting heading into this game, and now they're going

1087
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 3: to face a Miami team in prime in a game

1088
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 3: at an Island game, it is gonna be potentially a

1089
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 3: grizzly scene at the Metal Lens. And again, like these

1090
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 3: are games that Jets fans are supposed to be looking

1091
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 3: forward to all these spotlight games and now there's a

1092
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 3: sense of dread around them, and it just sucks. They

1093
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 3: let the fan base down with their decision making and

1094
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 3: it's really tough to swallow.

1095
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're third loan touchdown was their first and forty

1096
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 6: one drives, I believe, and I think you're you're hamstrung

1097
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 6: because you have a super empowered quarterback and you knew

1098
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 6: what came along with that, but he's tied at the

1099
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 6: hip to an offensive coordinator and at Daniel Hackett that

1100
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 6: is arguably and maybe overtly having an even worse campaign

1101
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 6: than a year ago. And that was one of the

1102
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 6: worst head coaching stints we've ever seen. So it's like,

1103
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 6: you could have made changes here, like the but for instance,

1104
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 6: Bill's at least went out and got someone like Roseull Douglas,

1105
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 6: who had three takeaways today. It's like, you know, go

1106
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 6: and try to change the situation, and the Jets did

1107
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 6: nothing and stuck with a non functional quarterback who somehow

1108
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 6: is playing less adequately than a Giants quarterback that no

1109
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 6: one had heard of, you know, a fortnight ago. It's

1110
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 6: just like it couldn't get any mess year, And if

1111
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 6: you don't have the guts to switch quarterbacks or go

1112
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 6: and get one, it's all on you and the floor

1113
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 6: falls out and they have no one to blame but themselves.

1114
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 4: Well, Zach Wilson, And you know, the thing that is

1115
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 4: similar between this year and last year is not the

1116
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 4: play card.

1117
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: It's Zach Wilson.

1118
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 4: And like Mike, I have a feeling Mike Lafleur could

1119
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 4: coach some offense had a quarterback.

1120
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: So to me, it's the quarterback, it's the offensive line.

1121
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 4: Rodgers, ultimately the choice is gonna be made for him,

1122
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 4: like if they have eight once they have eight or

1123
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 4: nine losses, he's.

1124
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: Not coming back anyway.

1125
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 4: So if they get to that point and the Bills

1126
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 4: have I think they're at Philly next week before a

1127
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 4: late bye, but it's now they could even if they

1128
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 4: lose that game. I look at this AFC and I

1129
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 4: know the point differential. Thing's crazy. They're now like plus

1130
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 4: one hundred for the year, which is just nuts. You

1131
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 4: know all their offensive statsic. I actually think Josh Allen

1132
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 4: is having a good season. I know it's wrapped around

1133
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 4: a couple like clunky, turnover prone games, I really do.

1134
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 4: If you take out like those two games, I think

1135
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 4: he's been a total top five.

1136
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: Quarterback, if not better.

1137
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 4: And you could say that basically about any quarterback this year,

1138
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 4: if you could pick out one or two bags. My

1139
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 4: point is they're running the ball well. You get a

1140
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 4: big day out of Leonard Floyd and Ed Oliver. I

1141
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 4: know it's against the Jets, but ed Oliver's playing with

1142
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 4: his hair on fire lately, and you've been running it better,

1143
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 4: and you have Alan. I think they are still a

1144
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 4: playoff team even if they go six and six, and

1145
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 4: I know that the schedule's tough.

1146
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot to like though. I'm not

1147
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: giving up on the Bills. Is my point.

1148
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 3: Well, you shouldn't give up on the Bills, but let's

1149
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 3: not go around the knack like Josh Allen is a

1150
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: couple of bad throws away from having a good year.

1151
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 3: You look, I mean, you had the first Jet game,

1152
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 3: you have the Giant game, you have the Denver game.

1153
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 3: I'm looking at multiple weeks where they scored less than

1154
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 3: twenty points.

1155
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 4: Yes, on a down to down like play to play basis,

1156
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 4: I think he's not been much different than he always is.

1157
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 4: He is a quarterback that matters that is playing reasonably well.

1158
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: I think they have a chances off I.

1159
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 6: Would say globally though, like what they are is an

1160
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 6: offense like today is not a measuring stick of that

1161
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 6: like they seem.

1162
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: I think it is. People love to say like and

1163
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: I get it.

1164
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 4: The defense caved in eventually, but it's also the same

1165
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 4: defense that's totally stopped the Bills in games before when

1166
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 4: their offense wasn't doing anything. So you can't have it

1167
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 4: both ways. You got to give them some credit for

1168
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 4: being able to move the ball today.

1169
00:52:59,040 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: It's a nice day for.

1170
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 6: Them lost cause, but there's definitely issues with the Bills

1171
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 6: in general, and I think three weeks from now we'll see.

1172
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 6: But it's like date, go out and show us that

1173
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 6: you're a good team against a different team against the Jets.

1174
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 6: Like Josh Allen has a ton of touchdowns and I'm

1175
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 6: not saying he's like a major issue, but this isn't

1176
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 6: the same version I think of Josh Allen that we

1177
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 6: got it's certain heights in the last two seasons.

1178
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: I think the point is great because I nobody would

1179
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 3: argue that Allen hasn't had moments of this season and

1180
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 3: stretches where he looked as good as ever. I think

1181
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 3: he has the ability, he has the natural ability and

1182
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 3: the players around him to be the best quarterback in

1183
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 3: the league for the rest of the season. But this

1184
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 3: year has been marked by inconsistencies on their offense. So

1185
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 3: I think we've gotten but we've gotten sucked in before

1186
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 3: Greg by the Bills this year where it felt like, Okay,

1187
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 3: this team is on track and then they lay an egg.

1188
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 2: I guess I just need to see a real.

1189
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 3: Extended stretch here where he's not shooting himself in the

1190
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 3: foot and they're not putting the ball on the ground.

1191
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 3: And maybe the scheme alteration with the new OC makes

1192
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 3: a big difference. And maybe Allen who kind of got

1193
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 3: his offensive coordinator fired, Greg, like maybe that was the

1194
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 3: way you call he needs in some level, I don't know.

1195
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 3: I just don't want to like paint like a rosy

1196
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 3: picture of a guy that I think he got Lombardi.

1197
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 3: Excuse me, I think he got Dorsey run out of

1198
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 3: town with his sloppy play this year.

1199
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 4: I just I just think people go so far in

1200
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 4: one direction or the other.

1201
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: Now.

1202
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 4: I don't think these stats like paint the total picture,

1203
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 4: but I also kind of get it that, like his

1204
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 4: EPA per play is a career high, he's second in

1205
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 4: the league to a Purty, He's top five in QBR.

1206
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 4: He usually doesn't rank that high. Completion percentage over expected,

1207
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 4: these are down to down things. They're actually at or

1208
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 4: above his career high. Now, no one's saying he's having

1209
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 4: his best season, but I think he's having a better

1210
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 4: season than people recognize. And there's a decent chance, because

1211
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 4: he's often been pretty up and out, there's a decent

1212
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 4: chance he gets on a heater down this stot.

1213
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 6: I just don't think anyone's walking around saying that he

1214
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 6: is some sort of a disaster either.

1215
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 5: People aren't saying that, no one.

1216
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 4: I feel like all of last week was spent on

1217
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 4: like what a problem.

1218
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1219
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 6: I think part of it is, like to what Dan

1220
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 6: just said that, like, did are you the reason your

1221
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 6: OC just got canned? When all those stats are true

1222
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 6: about what the OC produced as well, A lot of

1223
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 6: those are from their highs.

1224
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 4: I think the OC got caned because Don mcdermom didn't

1225
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 4: like him.

1226
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: That's my that's my room.

1227
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 4: They can't be best pals, well you mean like personally, Yeah,

1228
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 4: I mean just that they didn't like working together.

1229
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 2: I mean when you got there, Greg, not a little stupid.

1230
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 4: Nothing other than like no one with that sort of

1231
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 4: track record and production. Ever it gets fired in the

1232
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 4: middle of season. I mean he clearly didn't want to

1233
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 4: work with him anymore.

1234
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: He got rid of him. You gown, well, you.

1235
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 6: Keep firing people until you're next in line, exactly.

1236
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 2: I think.

1237
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 3: I think that's a team under an extreme amount of

1238
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 3: pressure to get this thing figured out, and I think

1239
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 3: that hurt Dorsey as well, like the amount of pressure

1240
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 3: on them to not let this season go down in

1241
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 3: infinity infinity for Buffalo fans.

1242
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 8: Uh.

1243
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 2: By the way, safety Tailer Rafts.

1244
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 3: To stained a neck injury, came off the field in

1245
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 3: an ambulance, a scary scene, but it looked like he

1246
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 3: had feeling like in his extremities, so that that's good.

1247
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 2: But they also lost.

1248
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 3: Dan Jackson and Toron Johnson to head injuries, so they

1249
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 3: they've been they've been a bit hard. It's not just

1250
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 3: the offense with the turnovers. They've had a ton of

1251
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 3: injuries this year and they and now they get the

1252
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 3: Eagles coming up, and that's gonna be potentially a fun

1253
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 3: little shootout all right, good, good, good.

1254
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 2: All right.

1255
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 3: So a little like I said at the top of

1256
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 3: the show, a little bit of a different week. I'm

1257
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 3: back east, so with my family on the other side

1258
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 3: of the store, I am going to We're gonna take

1259
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 3: a break here, and then when we get back, it

1260
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 3: will be Nick Shook tagging.

1261
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 2: I'm tagging in. Man. Imagine Nick Shook as your tag

1262
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: team partner.

1263
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 5: Oh my god, you play different roles.

1264
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 6: That would be you'd be the guy with like the

1265
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 6: dust and the little thing that you scored in someone's face.

1266
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 3: Well, wait, that's the valet. Let's give me a little

1267
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 3: more credit than that. But he's definitely the guy that, like,

1268
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 3: I just gotta like not get pinned. And if I

1269
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 3: could just get to that corner where Shook is at

1270
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 3: the turnbuckle and slap his hand, He's gonna hulk up

1271
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 3: and just clean house.

1272
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm gonna do at this break.

1273
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 3: And I will see you guys tomorrow night for the

1274
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 3: Super Bowl rematch recap of Monday night football. Let's take

1275
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 3: a break and then Shook will join us.

1276
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back.

1277
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 4: Let's head where we always head when Nick Schuck is

1278
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 4: coming on the show.

1279
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: Let's go to Cleveland.

1280
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 9: Twenty four yard line is where they spotted thirty four

1281
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,959
Speaker 9: yard field Goala tap, five seconds to go. Here we go.

1282
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 9: She look ready to put the ball, back step to it,

1283
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 9: back ball down.

1284
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 14: Hopkins in with flag down, kick us up and the

1285
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 14: kick is good. We're two seconds left. There's a flag down.

1286
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 14: It looks like the Snailers were offside. Two seconds left

1287
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 14: and Dustin the Hopkins puts the Brown toad.

1288
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 5: Thirteen to ten offside.

1289
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 4: You bet indeed, Jim Donovan back in the house. That's

1290
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 4: great to hear. Longtime Browns play by playban is healthy

1291
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 4: again for w k r K. Dustin Hopkins. He's been

1292
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 4: a difference maker all season. Fitting he gets the field

1293
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 4: goal in a thirteen to ten Brown's victory over the Steelers.

1294
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 4: If you're watching on YouTube, you can see Dorian Thompson

1295
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 4: Robinson overcome by emotion. He says he's a winning starter

1296
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 4: in the NFL. Also overcome by emotion. Nick Shook and

1297
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 4: Mark Sessler because they're both Browns fans, even if they

1298
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 4: don't want to honk about it. This had to be satisfying, Nick,

1299
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 4: beating the Steelers with your backup quarterback.

1300
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 15: Oh I mean, it was.

1301
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 7: It was an ugly game, but you know, you take

1302
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 7: the wins, Harvey can if you're the Browns, the slap

1303
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 7: walk through the third quarter and then most of the

1304
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 7: fourth quarter, and then found it when they needed it most,

1305
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 7: and they turned the rookie who was able to complete

1306
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 7: a few passes, get them in range and pull off

1307
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 7: a drive that you desperately needed to kick a field

1308
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 7: goal that I was certain was not going to happen

1309
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 7: in this game. And sometimes the spice of life is surprises,

1310
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 7: and it was today.

1311
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 6: I mean, for the first time ever, the Browns have

1312
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 6: beaten the Ravens and Steelers and back to back contests.

1313
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 6: If you go back through time, so many of these

1314
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 6: games would end so differently because you have issues at

1315
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 6: the field goal pick kicking position, You've lost your starting quarterback,

1316
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 6: you've lost the center of your offense, your star running back,

1317
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 6: and countless you've got issues at the tackle position, and

1318
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 6: you're facing the Steelers defense that is even with your

1319
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 6: starting tackles reak tavoc for a decade plus. So a

1320
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 6: lot was going on wrong for the Browns going into

1321
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 6: the game.

1322
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 5: And it was ugly.

1323
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 6: But it's ugly, I thought, because You've got something truly special,

1324
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 6: and it is a beautiful defense, and it is really

1325
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 6: rewarding to see Miles Garrett, who's been surrounded by very

1326
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 6: little his entire career, making game changing place. I gotta

1327
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 6: ask you, Nick, like that, I thought that was a

1328
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 6: safety out of the gate when Miles Garrett comes to

1329
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 6: tearing up the belly and blows up picket and it's

1330
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 6: it like the camera says, we'll see it to Pennstreet

1331
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 6: where the rep solid.

1332
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 5: But Jean Sarahtor said, you should have challenged that.

1333
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: You gotta challenge a potential scoring place.

1334
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 7: Absolutely, it was a really bad day of challenges for

1335
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 7: the Browns because they didn't challenge that, and on that

1336
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 7: sideline angle, you could see the balls clearly over the

1337
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 7: goal line. The entire football has to be out of

1338
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 7: the goal line for it to not be a safety.

1339
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 7: We're not gonna split hairs with the rules here, but

1340
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 7: it should have been challenged. Then they go challenge the

1341
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 7: Jerome Ford touchdown, which they somehow get overturned and turned

1342
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 7: into a touchdown because it wasn't initially ruled as a

1343
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 7: touchdown even though there's really no conclusive evidence. I feel

1344
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 7: like that was a makeup review there, and then they

1345
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 7: went and challenged another play in the second half that

1346
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 7: was just a terrible challenge, like it was just swings

1347
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 7: and misses, and they lucked out on the one that

1348
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 7: went their way. I wonder who is in the booth

1349
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 7: making these decisions for them, because they need to be replaced.

1350
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 4: That is something we can investigate. I think you're right

1351
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 4: Mark to bring up Garrett right away, because it's hard

1352
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 4: not to think about TJ. Watt, Miles Garrett, and you

1353
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 4: know TJ. Watt had a couple quarterback hits in a

1354
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 4: sack in this game. But when it comes down to

1355
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 4: it in the fourth quarter in a huge spot where

1356
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 4: Steelers I think they had the ball in great field position,

1357
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 4: they got over the fifty yard line, I believe before

1358
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett puts them back with a big time sack

1359
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 4: in that moment. He just keeps stacking those moments this year.

1360
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 4: It is pretty special. It is crazy. They are seven

1361
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 4: and three. They're seven and three.

1362
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 6: No, I mean, they're winning games in ways they would

1363
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 6: have lost them in the past, and I think that

1364
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 6: there is a difference here. If you watch Kevin Stefanski's

1365
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 6: postgame locker room speech, to the team I think is

1366
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 6: even kealed nature through all sorts of stuff that's happened

1367
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 6: affects them. I think there's a Browns team that leaves

1368
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 6: in each other in a way that you typically would

1369
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 6: look at the Steelers and say, that's how they feel

1370
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 6: about each other. And meanwhile, all this chaos could have

1371
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 6: caused disunity, and I've seen the opposite, and it's stories

1372
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 6: of people like Dave and Nadjoku who like keeps showing

1373
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 6: up in big moments. And it's the fact that you've

1374
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 6: had three different quarterbacks and even your starter.

1375
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: Fifteen targets for Dadoku today.

1376
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 6: Really, I mean, I think in other years he says inconsistent,

1377
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 6: He's still gonna give you the drops. But it's like

1378
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 6: you made out you made a pinpoint passes coming at

1379
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 6: you in some of these situations this season, but certain

1380
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 6: guys have stepped up, and I just think it's kind

1381
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 6: of a season altering win back to back to beat

1382
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 6: the Ravens and Steelers. I think it means a lot

1383
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 6: to a Browns franchise that like has not been able

1384
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 6: to do that consistently in twenty years.

1385
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 15: There's something weird around this team right now, and it's built.

1386
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 7: You know, it's centered on their defense, because you know

1387
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 7: when you have a good defense, it's gonna give you

1388
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 7: a chance in every game. But there's like a sense

1389
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 7: of belief and it's like cautious optimism within the fan base,

1390
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 7: whereas this team's just going out there and trying to

1391
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 7: prove every week believe in us, believe in us. And

1392
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 7: they stack a couple couple of wins that are coming

1393
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 7: wildly different fashion with different quarterbacks who have massively different

1394
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 7: stat lines, and yet the one true reliable factor is

1395
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 7: that defense. And I don't know if we're in that

1396
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 7: era anymore in which a defense can win new championships,

1397
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 7: like I don't know if the Ravens and Trent dilferd

1398
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 7: win a championship in this era. But you are looking

1399
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 7: for a unit that's going to come about as close

1400
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 7: as possible to getting you there. This is the defense

1401
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 7: this year that's been that so far. It's the only

1402
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 7: thing they've been able to count on in most of

1403
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 7: their games. And even today, I felt like Kevin Stefanski

1404
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 7: coached very passively in the third quarter, and I thought

1405
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 7: he's done a really good job in the last month.

1406
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 7: But today there was a stretch where they just were

1407
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 7: so conservative and so predictable offensively, and they had two

1408
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 7: times where they had the ball in Pittsburgh territory, started

1409
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 7: drive and they did absolutely nothing with it, took no

1410
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 7: time off the clock, clinging to a three point lead.

1411
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 7: And I'm sitting there watching this, going the Browns are

1412
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 7: going to lose this game. They are coaching not to

1413
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 7: lose instead of coaching to win right now, and it's

1414
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 7: gonna happen.

1415
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 15: And yet every time the defense bailed them out.

1416
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 7: And just like you said, that sack, that Miles Garrett

1417
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 7: sack that took them out of field goal range late,

1418
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 7: that's the defense coming through.

1419
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 15: Yet again, that's what gave them the opportunity here.

1420
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 7: And I want to be like sitting back and think, oh,

1421
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 7: eventually it's gonna falter. And it's broken down a couple

1422
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 7: times in the past, but it is more reliable and consistently.

1423
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 7: I fully believe that they'll have a shot in every

1424
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 7: game from here on out.

1425
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 6: Yet I think some of the passive coaching came on

1426
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh's offensive side. Where can you Pickett said afterwards that

1427
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 6: you know they were expecting Cleveland out to come out

1428
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 6: and play man from wire to wire and they switched

1429
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 6: that up.

1430
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 5: They confused them.

1431
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 6: This is a division opponent, and he said, we've got

1432
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 6: to adjust better. And then Naji Harris, we know that

1433
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 6: he's been upset with a few things. You got Jayleen

1434
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 6: Warren going off for a big touchdown. But Naji Harris,

1435
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 6: I think was another crack in the armor about what's

1436
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 6: going on with this offensive coaching staff.

1437
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 5: Let's listen to it.

1438
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 4: There's just a lot of stuff that just goes around.

1439
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 7: It's just.

1440
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 2: It's just that you guys don't see as I say.

1441
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 7: It's just true.

1442
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 2: I'm miss at a point where it.

1443
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 7: Was just like, I'm just tired of it.

1444
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 4: Let's let's hear some more, because that, especially from Najia Harris,

1445
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 4: was pretty telling, knowing that they're six and four or

1446
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 4: but that they've once again been out gained.

1447
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: Wait where are they outgain?

1448
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,479
Speaker 4: We kept it going, Yes, two fifty nine to two

1449
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 4: forty nine. They they kept the streak going. Let's hear

1450
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 4: him talk about that this record might be fools gold Meeks.

1451
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 2: The two things. You can look at the record and say, Okay,

1452
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 2: well we're still.

1453
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 3: Good right now.

1454
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 12: We can look at the record and.

1455
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 14: We like, you know, if we keep playing this type

1456
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 14: of football, how long is that last?

1457
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 4: Right?

1458
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: I look at it, like, how long does it last?

1459
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 4: Mandalkamhad like I said, good record players, I missed the NFL.

1460
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 2: You know it's winning, Like, how we did it?

1461
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 4: Chiphold, It's not gonna get us nowhere? Wow, that's selling

1462
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 4: to me because that Naja Harris is kind of known

1463
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 4: for being a leader. I think it's one of the

1464
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 4: reasons why he was drafted so early. Like he is

1465
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 4: that dude that has a sense of the locker room

1466
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 4: and wants to lead by example. So for him to

1467
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 4: be saying that, he's probably not too happy either. He had,

1468
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,919
Speaker 4: you know, thirty five yards on twelve carries. Jalen Warren

1469
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 4: was basically their entire offense, and Kenny Picket has one

1470
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 4: hundred and six yards and twenty eight attempts. Ben Solak

1471
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 4: of The Ringer sent out this cut up of every

1472
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 4: pass he threw beyond the line of scrimmage today, and

1473
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 4: it's first of all, it's only forty three seconds long.

1474
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 4: Second of all, I only count I think there's only

1475
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 4: two completions. I'm not sure they don't have a passing attack.

1476
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 4: And we got to move on from this game soon, Mark,

1477
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 4: But when he was getting tested for potential concussion, I

1478
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 4: know you thought maybe he was playing despite a concussion.

1479
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 4: Like I was thinking, Trubisky's gonna give them a better

1480
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 4: If I'm rooting for the Browns, and I was today

1481
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 4: because I picked the Browns and I root for my picks,

1482
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 4: I'm thinking Trubisky gives them better chance. Because yes, there'll

1483
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 4: be more, there'll be some variance, but he's at least

1484
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 4: an NFL quarterback, and Kenny Pickett right now is making

1485
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 4: you wonder whether he's an NFL.

1486
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 6: Well, you could feel a switch potentially coming at some point.

1487
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 6: I'd say Picket if he has had one thing to

1488
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 6: offer in close games like this Nick in the fourth quarter,

1489
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 6: he's had sort of a little bit of a flare

1490
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 6: to him where suddenly he awakens and they're winning types.

1491
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 6: That's why their record is what it is. They're not

1492
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 6: blowing people out. They're winning very close games, one score games,

1493
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 6: and you need great play and you came out against

1494
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 6: a nasty defense, So no luck today.

1495
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, that defense is in his head. It was very

1496
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 7: obvious in the way that he was carrying himself. And

1497
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 7: I think that these players have gotten to the point

1498
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 7: of frustration, and now he has multiple reasons to be frustrated,

1499
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 7: by the way, because he's also losing his job. Yeah,

1500
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 7: as we speak, but this scheme just doesn't empower any

1501
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 7: of them. I mean, third and long too many times

1502
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 7: over the course of the entire season, even the last

1503
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 7: two weeks has been Pickett drops back, throws up a

1504
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 7: prayer to George Pickens incomplete, throws up a prayer to

1505
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 7: Deontay Johnson incomplete. And when they did that on their

1506
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 7: last possession this game to day, where they had to

1507
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,439
Speaker 7: solely rely on the pass, I knew they were doomed

1508
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 7: because they hadn't done it all day. And I don't

1509
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 7: think he trusts his offensive line. Dan Moore, by the way,

1510
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 7: got dominated by Miles Garrett. If you dive in the

1511
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,479
Speaker 7: next gen stats, he owned him there. And I can't

1512
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 7: blame Kenny for being uncertain in that situation.

1513
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 2: Right.

1514
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 4: Dalen Warren goes for one in this game, the rest

1515
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 4: of the team went for one hundred in four yards.

1516
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 4: Steelers fall to six and four, or it is messy

1517
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 4: in the AFC.

1518
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: Let's go to the AFC south.

1519
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 16: First down at the twenty yard line of Tennessee under

1520
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 16: center as Trevor.

1521
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: Play fake again. Trevor's avoids trouble close to the corner

1522
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: of the end of the Paul is gonna be caught.

1523
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:22,480
Speaker 14: That is a touchdown to Calvin Redley.

1524
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 8: Twenty yard touchdown pass from Trevor Lawrence to Calvin Ridley

1525
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 8: as extended the lad.

1526
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 4: It's one of those weeks, one of those weeks where

1527
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 4: Calvin Ridley goes off. It's been a while. Seven for

1528
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 4: one oh three and two touchdowns. What's his third one

1529
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 4: hundred yard game of the season. Somehow they win, they

1530
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:46,480
Speaker 4: being the Jacksonville Jaguars thirty four to fourteen.

1531
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 1: This was not close.

1532
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 4: That was our friend Frank Frangie from w ok D.

1533
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 5: We are friends.

1534
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 4: Jaguars needed to bounce back after one of the worst games.

1535
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 4: He was maybe the worst game of the Doug Peterson era,

1536
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 4: and they did it in style. Nick, How'd they get

1537
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 4: it done?

1538
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 7: Trevor Lawrence, Baby, I would even want to say he's back,

1539
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 7: because I don't think he ever really left.

1540
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 15: But man, he looks so good today. He looked so confident.

1541
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 2: You know.

1542
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 7: This is a few days after we talked about I

1543
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 7: wrote a post about Doug Peterson and Trevor Lawrence talked

1544
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 7: about how his bum knee has been limiting him and

1545
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 7: he can't move in the pocket. Well, he's sure moved

1546
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 7: on that touchdown pass. He moved on another big throw

1547
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 7: to Dearnest Johnson down the sideline escape in the pocket,

1548
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 7: doing everything on the run. He's got the mobility back.

1549
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 7: He looks exactly like he did at his peak last year.

1550
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 7: And yeah, it's the Titans, but you still got a

1551
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 7: formidable front that you have to respect. Formidable front, by

1552
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,799
Speaker 7: the way, included a defensive tackle to score a touchdown

1553
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:42,799
Speaker 7: mister Jeffrey Simmons.

1554
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 15: But that was in the blowout portion of the game.

1555
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 7: And it was a blowout because Trevor Lawrence was on

1556
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 7: fire today and Calvin Ridley ended up being the main

1557
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 7: beneficiary of it.

1558
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 6: I think when you get this version of Calvin Ridley,

1559
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 6: they're a different offense. And I mean he was six

1560
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 6: for eight Trevor Lawrence on fifteen plus air yard passes,

1561
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 6: and that kind of explosive action through the air changes

1562
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,600
Speaker 6: what they can do. They dominated in time of possession,

1563
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 6: and this version of the Jacksonville Jaguars, like last week,

1564
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 6: was a little concerning because it's like, wait a minute,

1565
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 6: this is the kind of team you're going to play

1566
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 6: at some point in the playoffs if you overachieve and

1567
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 6: they got their doors blown off, it's like a response game.

1568
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 6: I like to see a young team that's learning how

1569
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 6: to win come back and do it. You got a

1570
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,839
Speaker 6: special quarterback, and I think you also have a defense

1571
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 6: that's obviously a game changing defense. For a year ago

1572
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 6: that was your achilles heel.

1573
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 4: Right, because the final stats nick for Levis look good,

1574
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 4: the thirteen for seventeen one to fifty eight. You know

1575
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 4: that that's great per attempt, But what was happening in

1576
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 4: the early portion of the game, basically the first three

1577
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 4: quarters when it got to twenty seven nothing before They

1578
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 4: kind of made it look better at the end.

1579
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, those numbers are fulls gold, like the passer ratings

1580
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 7: through the roof, And that's wasn't what the game was.

1581
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 7: It's not really his fault. It's a lot of like

1582
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 7: what we saw last week and they played Tampa. It's

1583
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 7: will Levis knows that well, the defense knows that Will

1584
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 7: Levis has no running game to support him.

1585
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 15: The offensive line is subpar.

1586
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 7: They're not going to protect him well he's going to

1587
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,759
Speaker 7: stand there and take his lumps, and they're gonna blitz

1588
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 7: the crap out of him and see what he does

1589
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 7: and be willing to take the risks. Like that touchdown

1590
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 7: pass to DeAndre Hopkins was on a trick play where

1591
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 7: Lewis motioned back after the snap into the pocket and

1592
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 7: caught the pitch and then turned and found Hopkins wide

1593
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 7: open run down the field. That was their first sign

1594
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 7: of life, and at that point it was a blowout

1595
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 7: because what they do traditionally in the past, leaning on

1596
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 7: Dereck Henry to kind of open up the passing game,

1597
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 7: none of that is working, and he's just it's an

1598
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 7: uphill climb. I feel bad for him because I actually

1599
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 7: think he's got something to him. It's just that we're

1600
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 7: not going to really ever see it until they figure

1601
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 7: out how to balance out their offense right now, and

1602
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 7: there's no hope for that.

1603
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 15: Their offensive line is just not good enough. The Texans

1604
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 15: next week, ooh, that's good.

1605
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 4: Jaguars are at seven and three. We mentioned the Texans

1606
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 4: at six and four. There is absolutely a route for

1607
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 4: both of these teams to get into the playoffs, but

1608
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 4: the Jaguars need to win that game where they give

1609
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 4: up first place in the division because Texans already won earlier,

1610
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 4: Titans totally out of it at three and seven.

1611
01:11:58,280 --> 01:11:58,839
Speaker 1: It's strange.

1612
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 4: I just kept way because there are the Titans that

1613
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 4: that like they're gonna ugly into some of these wins

1614
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 4: and like they'll end up sneakily playing in a game

1615
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 4: that matters with playoff implications in week sixteen or seventeen,

1616
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 4: and it just is not looking like it's gonna happen.

1617
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 1: They are three and seven.

1618
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 4: Their defense just has a lot of resources put into it,

1619
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 4: and it is not good enough. Our friend Justin Graver

1620
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 4: pointed out to me, I believe now that they lost

1621
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 4: this game, they'll have gone a full calendar year without

1622
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 4: winning a road game.

1623
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 6: So that's they're looking fourteen in their last in that stretch.

1624
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 6: And so the plan they came into the season with

1625
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 6: already there was evidence that it wasn't gonna work.

1626
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is that is not a good sign. Hopefully

1627
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 4: they I don't know, they got to stick with Levis,

1628
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 4: but for now, we're gonna stick with Nick Schuok. He

1629
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 4: doesn't know this, but he's staying on for a third

1630
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 4: game because I know you watched forty nine ers bucks

1631
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 4: and we didn't tell you, but we're gonna ask you

1632
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:57,679
Speaker 4: what you think about forty nine ers bucks.

1633
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,480
Speaker 1: Let's go to San Francisco.

1634
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 15: Heard he goe a can to play?

1635
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 16: Here is three receivers, right I you came to you

1636
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 16: check left, going deep down the sideline for are you?

1637
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 13: He's got it and he's gone twenty ten five touchdown, Sarin.

1638
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: Frid Cisco, are you? Are you a yuk is on fire?

1639
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 4: High call?

1640
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 2: Baby?

1641
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,839
Speaker 1: What a throw from brock Perty.

1642
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 4: It's all great throws from brock Perty twenty seven to fourteen.

1643
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 4: The forty nine ers get it done on a day heck,

1644
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 4: they could have won by even more potentially. That was

1645
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 4: Greg Papa and Tim Ryan on k NBR. We should

1646
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 4: always call uh for ayuk touchdown because that means we

1647
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 4: get the little single on brock party Mark. He came

1648
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 4: out of the bye week and he did it again.

1649
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 4: He's basically been perfect for two weeks. He finishes with

1650
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 4: three hundred and thirty.

1651
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: Three yards in three touchdowns.

1652
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:02,719
Speaker 6: I'm only twenty five, twenty one of twenty five total

1653
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 6: pristine operation, the first Niners quarterback to have a perfect rating.

1654
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 5: I know everyone's like.

1655
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 6: Don't care about QB rating, but but it has not happened.

1656
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 1: I am everyone, wouldn't you say everyone?

1657
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 6: Well, no, because I mean I get it, like it's

1658
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 6: it's an imperfect stat. But the last time it's happened

1659
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 6: to a Niners quarterback, and it's been a lot of

1660
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 6: good Niners teams was Joe Montana and Steve Young back

1661
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 6: in nineteen eighty nine tot it.

1662
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 5: So it's like it was that kind of a game.

1663
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 6: And I thought Nick that there were there was a

1664
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 6: stretch of play here. We've seen it before from the Niners,

1665
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 6: but it feels like that good old four o'clock Eastern

1666
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 6: Niners game when they're really rolling, where Brandon Ayuk, who

1667
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:38,839
Speaker 6: has developed into an absolute star wide receiver, was utterly

1668
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 6: unstoppable at one point, went back Jamal bats and Jamal Deane,

1669
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,560
Speaker 6: who like got injured on the play because Ayuka just

1670
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 6: is like insane with his speeding what he's doing.

1671
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 5: George Kittle is back in the mix.

1672
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 6: They didn't even really need a lot of from Deebo

1673
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 6: Samuel until late Christian McCaffrey an incredibly powerful first drive,

1674
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 6: then they kind of rested him. It's like they seem

1675
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 6: to me like they were gonna win this game forty

1676
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 6: five to ten. And I would say this the only

1677
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 6: thing I came him a little concerned with the Steve

1678
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 6: Wilkes defense, where it's like they could not put the

1679
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 6: bucks away the way you would have thought down the stretch.

1680
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 6: Baker Mayfield's been spicy. Evans and the crew have been

1681
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 6: that way too, But it's like, there was a chance

1682
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 6: for the Niners to win this game by twenty five

1683
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 6: thirty points and it got way too close or just

1684
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 6: a little too nasty down the stretch.

1685
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, where it really turned was when they the Baker

1686
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 7: Mayfield let at five play seventy five yard touchdown drive

1687
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 7: that happened really really quickly, like two and a half

1688
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 7: minutes worth of time in the fourth quarter, and it's like, oh,

1689
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 7: we do kind of have a game. Then they get

1690
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 7: right back down there, they're on the doorstep of the

1691
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 7: end zone and they fail to convert. Then they get

1692
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 7: down there again and Baker throws a pick because Chris

1693
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 7: Godwin didn't really sell out for the ball, and so

1694
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 7: you do our concerned about that. And Christian McCaffrey was

1695
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 7: frustrated because in the possessions in between first they were coming.

1696
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 7: In the blink of an eye, it was like three

1697
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 7: and out up, We're give them the ball back. I look

1698
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 7: up and all of all of a sudden, they're putting back

1699
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,919
Speaker 7: to the Buccaneers again. But Christian mca haffrey was frustrated

1700
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 7: because it's fourth and one and they can't convert and

1701
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 7: they turn it over on downs and he comes over

1702
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 7: and starts punching a Microsoft Surface tablet on the sideline

1703
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 7: out of frustration when they're up thirteen points, when there's

1704
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 7: four minutes left in a game in which their defense

1705
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 7: has already stopped them twice. Like you think it's not

1706
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 7: that big of a deal, but they sense that too,

1707
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 7: which you really have to appreciate because a lot of

1708
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 7: teams of lesser caliber that maybe don't have as high

1709
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 7: of expectations as these forty nine ers do would be

1710
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 7: laughing on the sideline in that instance, and he wasn't.

1711
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 7: He was upset because they do need to clean that up.

1712
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 7: But man, what a day for brock Purty. I feel

1713
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 7: like the concerns that we had about them during their

1714
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 7: three game losing streak feel like a month and a

1715
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 7: half ago.

1716
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 15: It was like three weeks ago. But it feels like

1717
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 15: twice as long.

1718
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 7: Games like this will instantly make you forget about that

1719
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 7: he's super efficient. The splash players were there. He was

1720
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 7: incredible on passes of ten to fifteen plus are yards.

1721
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,799
Speaker 7: He was perfect on passes of twenty plus are yards.

1722
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 7: Everything worked for them, And when this offense is humming

1723
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,560
Speaker 7: like it is like it did today, they're gonna be

1724
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 7: a tough team to be well.

1725
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 4: Kittle's having his best year in three or four years.

1726
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 4: He goes eight for eighty nine in a touchdown. He's

1727
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 4: getting chunk plays out of twenty four years, I'd open

1728
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 4: all day A Yukas is a true one. Deebo's healthy

1729
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 4: at least again did get it like a forty yard er.

1730
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 1: Later.

1731
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 4: I think McCaffrey's punching his tablet because they aren't a

1732
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 4: great running team right now, even though they have Christian McCaffrey.

1733
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 4: They're just not and they haven't really been for two months.

1734
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 4: So that is a little jarring that you're a forty

1735
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 4: nine ers team that when you absolutely need a yard

1736
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 4: you can't just hand it to Christian McCaffrey and be

1737
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 4: confident you're gonna get that yard. But that's that's one

1738
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 4: little fly in the ointment when they're throwing the ball

1739
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 4: this well, and Fred Warner's kind of making his great

1740
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 4: plays again, and both Chase Young and Bosa get sacked,

1741
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 4: so like, I'm not gonna I gotta watch it closer

1742
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 4: and everything. But they did well, you know, out gain

1743
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:43,480
Speaker 4: him by one fifty, held him under three hundred, ultimately

1744
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 4: win by a couple scores, and with the Seahawks losing,

1745
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 4: you know, you get up a game in the NFI.

1746
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 6: I think it says a little bit about Baker Mayfield too,

1747
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 6: and the fact that, like, yes, he's imperfect and they're

1748
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 6: gonna be frustrating moments, but.

1749
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 5: He kind of just refused to give up.

1750
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 6: And he did have good chemistry with his wide receivers,

1751
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,759
Speaker 6: so it wasn't just the Niners having their own issues.

1752
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:03,719
Speaker 5: And that's sort of I'm not trying to nitpick.

1753
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 6: It's just that, I don't know, kind of reminds me

1754
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 6: of a couple of weeks ago in primetime when the

1755
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 6: Bill should have won by fourteen more points than they did.

1756
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 6: It's like the Niners kind of just let them back

1757
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 6: in and that that doesn't matter today, but will it

1758
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,719
Speaker 6: matter in the NFC title game for the fourth time

1759
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 6: in five years or whatever.

1760
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's a valid concern if they do get

1761
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 7: to that point. You know, you bring up Baker just

1762
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 7: real quick. This is the first time ever gonna admit

1763
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 7: this in my life because the first time I've ever

1764
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 7: experienced this feeling. I felt bad for Baker today, Like

1765
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 7: I seriously felt bad for him. Like he's out there

1766
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 7: giving it his all, and his teammates just aren't footing

1767
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 7: their end of the bill. Like it just he's he

1768
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 7: tries hard, man, he's having a good year. He makes

1769
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 7: some mistakes. He probably should have got picked off two

1770
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 7: more times than he did they had. I think the

1771
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 7: Niners dropped three would be interceptions that were right there.

1772
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: All right, let's not feel too bad for him.

1773
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,839
Speaker 4: He's yeah, he's playing out there, Sharon and Trey Palmer

1774
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 4: and yeah all these days.

1775
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 1: No, I'm with you. I think you know.

1776
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 4: We Dan pointed out a cleice, like when a backup

1777
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 4: quarterback plays a couple of good games. We said, like, well,

1778
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 4: he's he's earned like ten years in the league. I

1779
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 4: think Dave Canalis, the play caller offensive coordinator for the Bucks,

1780
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 4: has earned himself like eight years now. In the NFL

1781
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 4: as a play caller, because he was the guy who

1782
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,959
Speaker 4: was there when Gino Smith's career turned around in Seattle,

1783
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 4: and he's turned Baker Mayfield and the guy that I

1784
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 4: didn't think I'd ever see with Baker Mayfield. And so

1785
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 4: this staff is gonna have to win the division to

1786
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 4: keep their jobs. Probably, I think they have a much

1787
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 4: better chance than the outside does. They really don't have

1788
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 4: any hard games the rest of the year, and I

1789
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 4: think they're probably the best team in that division if

1790
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 4: I had to choose one.

1791
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 1: So I think they have a chance. But Canalis has

1792
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 1: done a nice job.

1793
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 4: It's gonna be tougher though, because they lost Jamel Dean,

1794
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 4: Carlton Davis, and Levonte David the injuries in this game,

1795
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 4: and so that is disappointing for that defense. You know,

1796
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 4: it's never disappointing. He's having old Nick Shookhan. No, it's

1797
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 4: not Nick. Go go celebrate in the streets. Seems like

1798
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 4: people are celebrating a little too much in Cleveland. Actually

1799
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 4: stay inside and stay safe.

1800
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 7: Away from the windows. Yeah, I'll do that, guys, take care,

1801
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 7: appreciate it.

1802
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 4: A little inside joke that things are going a little

1803
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 4: whild there in the Cleveland streets.

1804
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: Thanks Chookie, We'll talk to you next week.

1805
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 4: All right, that's it for Nick, But Mark, we got

1806
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:19,879
Speaker 4: a couple games left before we get to Sunday Night football.

1807
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: Let's go to Miami.

1808
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 16: Thirty two seconds remains Aiden O'Connell, the rookie maman the

1809
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 16: thirty nine yard line back to throw, looking, looking, lots

1810
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 16: of time, goes seep.

1811
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 11: To the end, tensed by Jalen Ramsey perfects.

1812
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 2: A tremendous diving interception, his second of the ball game

1813
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 2: is third of the year. And there is your MVP

1814
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 2: right there.

1815
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 4: Joe, Jimmy, Sephalo and Joe rose on wb D G

1816
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 4: Ramsey with his second big time interception.

1817
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 1: Of the game.

1818
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 4: That was an incredible read and play just all around

1819
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 4: awesome by Jalen Ramsey. Clinch is a closer game than

1820
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 4: a lot of people expected twenty to thirteen, with the

1821
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 4: Raiders having a chance there at the very end. Mark,

1822
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 4: there is not a game today I know less about

1823
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,440
Speaker 4: than Dolphins Raiders.

1824
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 1: Why was it that close at the end.

1825
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 6: You know they've been They're seventeen and two at home

1826
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 6: in their last nineteen home games, the Dolphins, and they've

1827
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 6: been blowing people's doors off in super sweltering hot Miami today.

1828
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 6: It took a couple, it took a different type of win,

1829
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 6: and it took it different heroes like Jalen Ramsey to

1830
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,680
Speaker 6: step up, who had that game ceiling interception, which was

1831
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:42,719
Speaker 6: one of the most athletic picks we'll see all year.

1832
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 6: Had another one that was really high quality and tough.

1833
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 6: That was the Raiders melting down late. What the reason

1834
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 6: it was close was that the offense we've seen from Miami,

1835
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 6: which if anything else too, has been extremely efficient. They've

1836
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 6: been statistically right at top of the charts no matter

1837
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 6: how you look at it. But it came out of

1838
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 6: the gate with on a scamper loses the ball at

1839
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 6: his own thirty one, leads to a Raiders field goal.

1840
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,640
Speaker 6: They had a twelve pay play drive that ended on

1841
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 6: downs at the Vegas three. That's a lost opportunity. There

1842
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 6: was a Julian Hill fumble at Miami's thirty two that

1843
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 6: led to another Raiders field goal. Tua was picked off

1844
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 6: on a deep shot. Later in the game, Jake Bailey

1845
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 6: missed a fifty yard field goal. So stuff cropped up

1846
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 6: where Miami just hasn't been doing these things and it

1847
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 6: kept the Raiders in the game. The Raiders, to me,

1848
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 6: I will say this, it was not an overly impressive

1849
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 6: performance for Aidan O'Connell because the turnovers down the stretch

1850
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 6: were a death knell. They could not run the ball

1851
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 6: well today two point three yards per Kerry. But their

1852
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 6: defense under Patrick Graham, I think there's just more unity

1853
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 6: and cohesion in that coaching staff. The Raiders were dancing

1854
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:50,799
Speaker 6: around early, the players on the sideline, and there's something

1855
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 6: about the Raiders experience where you lose this game, but

1856
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 6: I see a different team.

1857
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 5: I think we all do.

1858
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 6: And it came very close because Miami just lacked what

1859
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 6: slacked in other games. But I'll say one last thing.

1860
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 6: Tyreek Hill did some incredible things in this game. He

1861
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 6: did some incredible things, so it was kind of like

1862
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 6: we need two heroes to step up. It was Jalen

1863
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 6: Ramsey and Tyreek Hill with a catch and run touchdown

1864
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 6: unlike anything else you'll see from anyone but Tyreek Hill,

1865
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 6: and he did it again. So they did just they

1866
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:18,440
Speaker 6: got just enough from their offense.

1867
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 4: So ten for one and one touchdown, and that's why

1868
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 4: you give up all those picks for Tyreek Hill. Sure,

1869
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 4: a day like today where he just carries you. On

1870
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 4: a day where, yeah, you mentioned two, I had a

1871
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,600
Speaker 4: couple of mistakes. You know, he's already at his interception

1872
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 4: total for a year ago.

1873
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 1: I just find that, you know, interesting.

1874
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 4: He obviously only played ten games and he's had like

1875
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 4: nine fumbles. Now, some of those were bad snaps, so

1876
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 4: I'd have to go back and through and and see

1877
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 4: some of those weren't really on him. But that's a

1878
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 4: ton of fumbles. But you get him, you trade the

1879
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 4: pick for Jalen Ramsey. It was more about just like,

1880
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:53,759
Speaker 4: we're gonna take on his contract and we're not gonna

1881
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 4: worry about it.

1882
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 1: And that's what it's for.

1883
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,560
Speaker 4: On days where like everything else is relatively even and

1884
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 4: you're playing a five and six Raiders team that's playing

1885
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 4: above their heads, it's like, yeah, we have dudes that

1886
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 4: are better than your top dudes other than DeVante Adams,

1887
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 4: who is dude who got a nice long one.

1888
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 6: Hunter renfro Is back in this offense and made an

1889
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 6: incredible catch.

1890
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 1: Wow, five for forty two.

1891
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're using him again.

1892
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 6: So it's another thing i'd point to that's a positive

1893
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 6: for the Raiders who are still very much alive in

1894
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 6: this thing. But I like to see Miami closing the

1895
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 6: game with two interceptions.

1896
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 5: Of course that.

1897
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 6: Took you know, the acabatomy from Jalen Ramsey. But they

1898
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 6: won this one a little bit differently, And I really

1899
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 6: think for this team, depending on what happens, like if

1900
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,639
Speaker 6: they get a situation where they can play a couple

1901
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 6: home games in the playoffs versus having to go on

1902
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 6: the road, they're just a different team at home.

1903
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 1: It's a long way though.

1904
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 4: I know they're seven and three and that sounds like

1905
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 4: a big lead over the Bills, which are six and five,

1906
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 4: But I am concerned. They came into this week ranking

1907
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 4: twenty first in EPA for the three weeks preceding the bye.

1908
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 4: This is another game that you know, might not raise

1909
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 4: that by much. So that offense, I don't think from

1910
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 4: the first month is coming back fully because just because

1911
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 4: that's not how it works to me. The question is

1912
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 4: can they're improving defense? And it's definitely improving Jalen Phillips,

1913
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 4: they're healthier, Jalen Ramsey like, they're better, they've been getting better.

1914
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 4: Can their defense improve enough and can they show that

1915
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 4: they can start to win closer games against better competition

1916
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 4: to make up for the offense coming back to Earth,

1917
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 4: because it's coming back.

1918
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 6: To Earth it is, Or can the schedule help you

1919
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 6: because you've got the Jets, the Commanders, the Titans, and

1920
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 6: then the Jets again over your next four games.

1921
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 1: That's it's a fair point.

1922
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 4: If you don't come out of there ten and four

1923
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 4: at the worst, you're you're deeply disappointed. And there, Yeah,

1924
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,719
Speaker 4: there's absolutely a chance you win all of those games. Sure,

1925
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 4: I mean they'll be favored significantly. That's a fair point.

1926
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 4: They were excited to get Devon Aheen back in this game,

1927
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 4: and he got hurt almost right away.

1928
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 6: It sounds like they're not because they kept him like

1929
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 6: they didn't rule him out or anything, because they thought

1930
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 6: he might be able to play. But was a knee

1931
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 6: injury and it was the same knee as before, so

1932
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 6: I think they were just being very cautious.

1933
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 15: So a short week, Yeah, Tyreek Hill.

1934
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 6: Hurt his hand and like continue to play awesome with

1935
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,640
Speaker 6: what looks like a bandaged kind of glove situation. So

1936
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 6: you know, he's tough as nails. He's back in there.

1937
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 6: But I think with a chan it's like I want

1938
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 6: to wait and see what happens with that. But they

1939
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 6: played soon. They played the Jets on.

1940
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:20,719
Speaker 4: That button Friday, a very rare four day week for them.

1941
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 4: I guess that literally never happened if we ever have

1942
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:24,719
Speaker 4: Friday games.

1943
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 1: I not that we did.

1944
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 5: A year ago, I believe. Am I incorrect about that?

1945
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 4: I don't know who can remember all this stuff. They're

1946
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 4: just changing things around. During the COVID year, there was game.

1947
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 5: It was a Wednesday game.

1948
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 4: Any any day of the week that was wild. That

1949
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 4: was the Pittsburgh game. Aiden O'Connell. Look, he's he's moving

1950
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 4: the ball a little bit. He could be a lot worse.

1951
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 4: In fact, I would say he's been better than the

1952
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three version of Jimmy Garoppolo.

1953
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 1: You know what else is better?

1954
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 4: Wrapping up our early games, Cowboys at Panthers, let's get

1955
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 4: to it.

1956
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 3: From the twenty five play action, Young Froze the bcept

1957
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 3: it that's a thirty yard line coming.

1958
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 5: Down the left side is touch it to five?

1959
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 1: He did it again.

1960
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 5: He did it again.

1961
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,679
Speaker 2: Unbelievable what he has doored.

1962
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 9: Undercut the first down pass and Deran Bland said, I

1963
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 9: don't think I've scored in about two weeks.

1964
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 4: Oh man, just like, make a list of all the

1965
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 4: great players in the NFL this season who have not

1966
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 4: caught three touchdown or four touchdown passes. They've all scored

1967
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 4: less than Deron Bland. Somehow, this Digs injuries like worked

1968
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 4: out pretty well for the Cowboys. Not for Diggs. I

1969
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 4: feel bad for him, but four pick six is this

1970
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 4: season and Deron ban gets his hands on a lot

1971
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 4: of other passes too that he doesn't even return for

1972
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 4: a pick six, like he's a legitimately good cornerback. Thirty

1973
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 4: three to ten is the score here. Dallas goes to Carolina,

1974
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 4: they take care of business. That was Brad Sham, the

1975
01:27:56,000 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 4: Sham God of course from k rl D. What was

1976
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 4: the most interesting thing about a score line mark that

1977
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 4: felt entirely predictable.

1978
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 6: Well, there is the pick six right there, and be

1979
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 6: fright before that, Tony Pollard with a really powerful touchdown run.

1980
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 6: I thought he ran really well, maybe one of his

1981
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 6: best games of the year. It's not the most impressive

1982
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 6: box score, but he looked a little different to me,

1983
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 6: and I think that within that couple of minutes in

1984
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 6: the game, the explosiveness from two different parts of your

1985
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 6: team that put the Panthers away because this is a

1986
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 6: frustrating one for the Panthers.

1987
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 5: Of course, no one's thinking they're going to win.

1988
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 6: But they kept this thing really close, and they shot

1989
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 6: themselves in the foot at key times.

1990
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 5: There was a drive where essentially the.

1991
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 1: Cowboys as a one score game entering in.

1992
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 6: The fourth course, and it looked like it, and it

1993
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 6: was seventeen to nothing after a drive where the Panthers

1994
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 6: had no business giving up a touchdown, but they had

1995
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 6: they I have not seen this before. Xavier Woods was

1996
01:28:56,600 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 6: flagged for simultaneously the unusual combination of a face mask

1997
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 6: and a horse collar on the same play.

1998
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 5: It doesn't happen too often.

1999
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 6: That puts him in a situation where Dallas could have

2000
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 6: had a field goal, right, But then there's two more

2001
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 6: personal fouls against this team as well on third down.

2002
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 6: It's like the Panthers just kept letting the Dallas back

2003
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 6: into a game where like it wasn't the Dallas didn't

2004
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 6: look effective or good.

2005
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 5: Dak Proscott, he looks.

2006
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:24,440
Speaker 6: He's throwing the ball as went as well as anyone

2007
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 6: in the NFC or the NFL. But it was like

2008
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 6: you could have gotten Dallas caught into one of those

2009
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 6: situations and Bryce Young they put together the longest drive

2010
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 6: of the year seventeen plays, seventy yards, nine plus minutes

2011
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 6: and made it that made it seventeen to ten in

2012
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 6: the third quarter. But then the Cowboys exploded with the

2013
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 6: Tony Pollard touchdown Deron Plan pick six, and it's like

2014
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 6: they just Dallas against Obviously these these like lesser teams,

2015
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 6: is way too much to handle. And Carolina by the

2016
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 6: end was like completely underwater.

2017
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 4: Right, the Cowboys are now seven and three. They had

2018
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 4: that one slip up to the Cardinals in Week three,

2019
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 4: but otherwise they got a forty to nothing against the Giants,

2020
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 4: a thirty to ten against the Jets, a thirty eight

2021
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:09,719
Speaker 4: to three against the Patriots, a forty three to twenty

2022
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 4: against the Rams, and a forty nine to seventeen against

2023
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:13,599
Speaker 4: the Giants.

2024
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:14,679
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pick on them.

2025
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 4: That is a sign of a great team, teams that

2026
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 4: beat up on bad teams. And yeah, they got to

2027
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 4: prove it against the better team. Fine, but in the meantime,

2028
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:26,600
Speaker 4: like we'd be killing them if they lose any of

2029
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:28,640
Speaker 4: these games, or even if it came down to the

2030
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 4: last few plays. So they're getting it done only five

2031
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 4: yards per attempt for Dak today, but you know, no

2032
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 4: turnovers or anything. Maybe playing it a little safer, like

2033
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 4: he comes down to earth somewhat. But they're in good

2034
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 4: position and any away win for them is massive because

2035
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 4: they can't be beat at home.

2036
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 2: It team.

2037
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, their road like splits are very differently. I would

2038
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 6: say Micah Parsons three sacks today. They absolutely dominated Bryce Young,

2039
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 6: especially on third and long. Frank Reich has taken over

2040
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 6: play calling and the one thing I'd say they used

2041
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,679
Speaker 6: a lot more tempo. They tried to go a little

2042
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:03,679
Speaker 6: new no huddle, and I think it helped Bryce Young

2043
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 6: to some degree. But this team feels so lost to

2044
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 6: me on third down, especially, and there's a lack of

2045
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 6: creativity and they get stuck in a lot of third

2046
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 6: and unmanageable yardage situations and Dallas just teed off at

2047
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 6: that point. It's you know, it's like, I don't know,

2048
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 6: great coaching helps a rookie quarterback out and puts him

2049
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 6: in the best possible situation. And outside of Adam Thieling

2050
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 6: Felun playing above his head like there's just nothing else

2051
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 6: happening with this offense.

2052
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 4: I mean, they haven't scored more than thirteen points in

2053
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 4: a four games, and then the last time they scored

2054
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:35,679
Speaker 4: more was fifteen.

2055
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's tough.

2056
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 4: He had two point one yards per play on passing

2057
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 4: plays because he was sacked seven times. He was hit

2058
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 4: eleven times. And you mentioned Parsons having a monster game.

2059
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 4: If it wasn't for Garrett, I swear Parsons is just

2060
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 4: on another planet. He's over ten sacks for the third

2061
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 4: straight season to start his career. I mean that seems

2062
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:01,719
Speaker 4: like that's a low bar for him. But only nine

2063
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 4: people since they started keeping track I've ever done that

2064
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 4: to start their career. So that is the type of

2065
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 4: company Michael Parsons is keeping, and they keep it rolling.

2066
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 4: I like that. We have some powerhouse teams that stay

2067
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 4: good for the most part week after week.

2068
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 1: That is the Cowboys.

2069
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 4: That is not how you would describe our two teams

2070
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 4: playing Sunday night football, but they are fun. Let's finish

2071
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 4: up with the Vikings and the Broncos.

2072
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 9: Snap Plucket two at one all out, puts them away.

2073
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 2: Give it up. Pruss Rust throws the ball.

2074
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 1: To the end zone.

2075
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 4: It is touchdown.

2076
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 2: That is Clatland seven his a three zone touchdown of.

2077
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 8: The year, sixteen yard touchdown Wilson's to seven.

2078
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 2: He went up all from McKay Brockman.

2079
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 8: And the Broncos with sixty three seconds left are in

2080
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 8: front of the Vikings twenty one twenty.

2081
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 4: Oh Yeah, those two men did it again. Courtland signed

2082
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson. Dave Logan's back on the show. Week after

2083
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 4: week koa Denver Wow, still stunned by this one. Courtland

2084
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 4: Sutton's fifteen yard touchdown catch from Russell Wilson put the Vikings.

2085
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 1: Behind twenty one to twenty.

2086
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 4: Broncos take this one after shutting down a Josh Dobbs

2087
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 4: would be game winning field goal drive with a bunch

2088
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 4: of pressure in his face. Mark, the Denver Broncos are

2089
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 4: five and five. And you mentioned, as we're walking in here,

2090
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 4: the unlikely source of great primetime drama in the last

2091
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 4: two weeks.

2092
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple weeks ago.

2093
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 6: When you scan this, you know the future schedule, and

2094
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 6: they're sitting out there in these island games.

2095
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 5: It's like, I don't want to be taken to that island.

2096
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 5: But they've been.

2097
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 6: They've been a different team, and I think, like tonight,

2098
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,760
Speaker 6: you know, it continued a theme for them. They've got

2099
01:33:56,800 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 6: twelve takeaways in the last three games, and you.

2100
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 1: Know thats sustainable. You wouldn't think, no, it's not.

2101
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 6: And they talked about a streak like that not occurring

2102
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 6: for that team in almost a quarter century. But those

2103
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,799
Speaker 6: little moments in a game like this made a big difference,

2104
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 6: because I thought the Brian Flores Vikings defense did a

2105
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 6: great job of shutting down what would be touchdown drives

2106
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 6: for much of the game, stopping them at the Minnesota's thirteen, twelve,

2107
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 6: thirty four, nineteen, and ten. Those were all field goal drives,

2108
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 6: but two of those field goal drives came off of

2109
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 6: Vikings fumbles.

2110
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:31,599
Speaker 5: That was their problem earlier in the year. It crept

2111
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 5: up again tonight.

2112
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:34,640
Speaker 6: Then Dobbs had that one interception that led to a

2113
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 6: fifth field goal. And I would point to one other

2114
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 6: thing right before the half, Kevin O'Connell, and I love

2115
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 6: what he did tonight with a fake punt. I thought

2116
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 6: he did a nice job in the second half trying

2117
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 6: to give his offense a chance. But they had a

2118
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 6: fourth and one opportunity from the Denver forty eight with

2119
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 6: a minute left before halftime, and they punt. That's your choice,

2120
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 6: but then Russell Wilson drove the team right down the

2121
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 6: field to make it ten to nine before the house.

2122
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 6: So these little moments in a twenty one to twenty

2123
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 6: game added up up for the team of ATLS oh

2124
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 6: ugly evening for us for that franchise that.

2125
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 4: It was a sad end. And yes, the first loss

2126
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 4: by the Vikings as the team of the Around the

2127
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 4: NFL podcast, that's a great point mark that you made

2128
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 4: about the end of that first half. And that's unlike

2129
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 4: O'Connell to be passive, but.

2130
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 2: That's a great point mark.

2131
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 6: I don't know if Tony Grossi ever listens to the

2132
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 6: show or is aware that this is happening.

2133
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:32,640
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. I know he's enjoying this

2134
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:35,720
Speaker 4: Brown season. I'm sure he's a little surprised to see

2135
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 4: Josh Dobbs, the former Browns quarterback, in such big spots.

2136
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:42,839
Speaker 4: Maybe we shouldn't be surprised, but I am surprised. Russell

2137
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:46,759
Speaker 4: Wilson at the end of these games two minute drill,

2138
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 4: that is where he's at his best. So he did

2139
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:50,720
Speaker 4: it at the end of the first half to get

2140
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 4: those three points, and then he did it to end

2141
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 4: the game calmly moving down down the field. Most of

2142
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 4: it was what the Broncos offense has been all see,

2143
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:02,720
Speaker 4: which is dum dumpoffs to the running backs. I mean,

2144
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 4: Samaji p Ryan had a good chunk of that drive

2145
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 4: on just these dumpoffs. But Russell Wilson's been in those

2146
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 4: situations so many times. The Vikings actually didn't bring that

2147
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 4: much pressure in that drive. I'm sure Flores will think

2148
01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 4: about his strategy then when they were rushing for that

2149
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 4: wasn't working. They tried rushing two and three in that drive.

2150
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 4: They weren't sending a ton of heat in that drive,

2151
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:29,799
Speaker 4: and Russell Wilson generally was just backing up quickly, surveying

2152
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:32,960
Speaker 4: the scene and getting about seven ten fifteen yards to

2153
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 4: p Ryan. And you get a little break that p

2154
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 4: Ryan's fumble that he had went out of bounds, yes,

2155
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 4: right before the game winner, and Russell Wilson, to his credit,

2156
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 4: just throws it up on a play where they did

2157
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 4: send pressure. I should point out the touchdown came when

2158
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 4: they did send the house, and Russell Wilson had an answer.

2159
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 4: When that ball's in the air, I'm thinking, man, there's

2160
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 4: two Vikings defenders over there. But the difference is those

2161
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,439
Speaker 4: two Vikings defenders are like five ten five of it.

2162
01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 4: In Courtland Sutton, I believe is seven foot nine when

2163
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:01,599
Speaker 4: he's jumping up in the as.

2164
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 6: To be and like he's quietly having, you know, a

2165
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 6: great year, and Russell Wilson looks like a different player

2166
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:09,640
Speaker 6: obviously from a year ago. There was another throw with

2167
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 6: total heat on Russell Wilson and he threw that dart

2168
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 6: to Jerry Judy in the end zone that should have

2169
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 6: been caught. But it's another example of him looking more

2170
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 6: organized and you know, less outside of his head than

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Speaker 6: he was a year ago when he was lost at Sea.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I don't know what to make of this

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01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 4: Bronco seem I don't think you have to make anything

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Speaker 4: of it. I think they were much better than their

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01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,679
Speaker 4: one in five record indicated. They had the one seventy

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01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 4: point game they gave up, but the other a lot

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Speaker 4: of their other losses were like these tight losses, and

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01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 4: now they're winning tight games. And these two teams are

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Speaker 4: pretty emblematic of the NFL this season. I mean, the

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01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:47,919
Speaker 4: Vikings a completely unlikely five game winning streak. They almost

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01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:50,720
Speaker 4: moved it to six here, and I still think they're

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Speaker 4: in good shape. To make the playoffs, but who knows

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Speaker 4: with them. I think they're gonna be fine. I think

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Speaker 4: they will make the playoffs, but they're not going to

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01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 4: be blowing teams out. And the Broncos have won four

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Speaker 4: straight games. Im probably they were one and five and

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01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 4: now they're they're five and five, and I guess we

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01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:07,759
Speaker 4: have to talk about them as a playoffs.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like I can take them seriously with the

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01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 6: way that they're taking the ball away. And you know,

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Speaker 6: I thought I thought they made Josh Dobbs uncomfortable in

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Speaker 6: that final drive and on previous drives too, but their

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Speaker 6: pressure made a big difference. I mean, Dobbs is playing

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Speaker 6: out of his mind and he's it's still hard to

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Speaker 6: comprehend now you know how little he knows about even

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Speaker 6: the team around him.

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Speaker 5: Still a couple of weeks can really help with that.

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Speaker 6: But he had that incredible first touchdown pass to Josh

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Speaker 6: Oliver where he you know, escapes he's nearly yang to

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01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:40,600
Speaker 6: the ground and then destroyed by two people as he

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Speaker 6: gets the pass off right, and he had he ran

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Speaker 6: for He's been a great running quarterback all year and

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01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 6: so he's leaning on his athleticism and I think he

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01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 6: makes good decisions. I thought on that final drive though,

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01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:53,679
Speaker 6: that kind of just he was forced to run all

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01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 6: around all over the place to like eighteen figure eights

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01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:58,639
Speaker 6: and he's having to make wild throws to try to

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01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:00,919
Speaker 6: keep the Vikings alive, and that that's not the situation

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Speaker 6: you wanted to be in.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I wonder if teams will look at the way this

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01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 4: game ended in thought and think, like, Okay, Josh Stobbs smart,

2213
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:13,240
Speaker 4: playing well, but it's asking a lot for him to

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01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 4: know all the protections and communicate that to the offensive line,

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01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:20,639
Speaker 4: and the offensive line to be cohesive enough. And because

2216
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:24,599
Speaker 4: guys were getting free and they just did not have answers.

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Speaker 4: They have the Bears next week, and then which is

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01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 4: on Monday Night football. Wow, Josh Stabbs is living in

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01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 4: primetime now. And then they have the bye week, which

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01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:35,599
Speaker 4: I think for them will be really great to reset

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01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 4: a bit. Because he was scrambled in this game. He

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01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 4: lost the fumble early. That was a fumble that I

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01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 4: would put on him. It was kind of loose with

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01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 4: the ball.

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Speaker 5: He had three of them in this game too, had a.

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01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 4: Few other plays that could have been intercepted, So this

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01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:50,880
Speaker 4: game could have gone a few different ways. I think

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Speaker 4: the Vikings will be really happy that they ran the

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Speaker 4: ball for one hundred and seventy five yards. Madison looked

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01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 4: as good as he looked all season. The Broncos haven't

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01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:01,120
Speaker 4: been able to stop the run all They only end

2232
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:04,719
Speaker 4: up with thirteen first downs in this game, but they

2233
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 4: just keep finding a way. And look, there's not that

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01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:10,559
Speaker 4: much that separates the good teams from the bad teams

2235
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 4: this year. There's definitely not a lot that separates like

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01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:15,040
Speaker 4: the Broncos from the Vikings. And if you look at

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01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 4: these two teams as scheduled, they just both have a

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01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 4: bunch of games where you're like, yeah, they could win

2239
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 4: that game, or yeah they could lose that game, and

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Speaker 4: that's kind of the middle of them.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Like the Vikings can't come into these games and

2242
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 6: lose the turnover battle the way they deny. The Broncos

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01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:28,640
Speaker 6: were two for twelve on thirteen. At one point, I

2244
01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 6: think they were like zero for seven. They had like

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01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 6: five yards rushing in the first half, so there wasn't

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01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 6: a lot of balance around Russell Wilson and they just

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01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 6: made the plays down the stretch and it's like, I

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01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 6: don't know, like this is a weird team in a

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01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:41,840
Speaker 6: weird outside of the Chiefs, the rest of the AFC

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Speaker 6: West is really bizarre. So I don't know what they

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Speaker 6: can do at this point. They could win some division games.

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Speaker 6: It's hard to take them like overly seriously, but why not, Like.

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Speaker 4: Well, they got the Browns next, they're at Texans. I

2254
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:55,680
Speaker 4: like the good thing of having all these little two

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Speaker 4: games in the mix is these games between all these

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Speaker 4: teams in the middle.

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Speaker 1: This tonight as a perfect example.

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Speaker 4: We kind of know these two teams aren't going to

2259
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 4: super Bowl, but it makes these types of games more fun.

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Speaker 4: There's going to be more meeting. We're getting into the

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Speaker 4: meat of the season. It's Thanksgiving week, it's week twelve

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01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:16,599
Speaker 4: coming up. We will be back Monday night. Believe it'll

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Speaker 4: be all three of us well on that show. Okay,

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01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 4: we'll be back Monday night. Dan's gone.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like I'm scrambled.

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Speaker 5: Let's try to get let's try to get some consistency here.

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Speaker 1: Let's get up.

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Speaker 4: Let's get a Sessler winning streak going. It is great

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Speaker 4: to have you back. And then we will tape a

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Speaker 4: preview of all the games, including Thanksgiving games on Wednesday morning.

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Speaker 4: We'll be taping a little earlier than normal. We'll try

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Speaker 4: to get that out as soon as we can on Wednesday,

2273
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Speaker 4: but that's going to include the Thanksgiving Day game previews

2274
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Speaker 4: and all the games, and then we'll wrap the Thanksgiving

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Speaker 4: games on Friday. Until then, for Dan Hansis, Nick Shook,

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Speaker 4: Mark Sessler, Tony Grove, Grossy, and

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Speaker 1: Dorian Thompson Robinson the call