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Speaker 1: Our Way with yours truly Paul Anka and my buddy

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Speaker 1: Skip Bronson, is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: I had a great interview with Jay Z recently, because

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Speaker 2: Jay doesn't give interviews, and I begged and groveled the

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Speaker 2: same with Bruce Springsteen. It took me five years, but

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Speaker 2: I find if you're persistent and not obnoxious. You know,

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Speaker 2: I've always heard no spelled backwards is on, So I

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Speaker 2: take that as game on. And so if you just

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Speaker 2: just be persistent and be patient and people can feel

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Speaker 2: that from you, things will often work out.

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Speaker 1: Hi, folks, this is Paul Anka and my name is

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Speaker 1: Skip Bronson.

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Speaker 3: We've been friends for decades and we've decided to let

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Speaker 3: you in on our late night phone calls by starting

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Speaker 3: a new podcast, and welcome to Our Way.

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Speaker 1: We'd like you to meet some real good friends of us.

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Speaker 3: You're leaders in entertainment and.

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Speaker 1: Sports, innovators and business and technology, and even a sitting

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Speaker 1: president or two.

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Speaker 3: Join us as we asked the questions they've not been

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Speaker 3: asked before, tell it like it is, and even sing

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Speaker 3: a song or two.

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Speaker 1: This is our podcast and we'll be doing it our way. Hello, Skip, Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? I'm so happy man. The hockey is

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Speaker 1: into the finals NHL. Now, all these teams are so good.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's now who's got the best goalie? But

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Speaker 1: I'm in heabit, you know, Canuck, Canuck. I'm just having

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Speaker 1: the best playoff hockey. There's nothing playoff nothing. Those guys,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're in such great shape and it's like

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Speaker 1: ballet on ice, and the games are so good. And

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Speaker 1: and my Rangers, you know, you love the Rangers that

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Speaker 1: I think they got the shot this year. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's just so cool.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, my buddy, we have a buddy of yours coming on.

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Speaker 1: And I'm so excited about Derek Gail King. But you

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Speaker 1: know I was thinking about it, you know, because you

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Speaker 1: gave me the history on it the other day when

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Speaker 1: we had lunch. You know, your relationships, even with Gail,

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Speaker 1: who you go back to Hartford, as you explained to me,

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Speaker 1: you know, the the importance of friendships and then the

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Speaker 1: payback of it and the giving and the solid foundation

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Speaker 1: that it's on, you know, for you to pull her out.

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Speaker 1: You know, not that anyone's going to say no to you,

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Speaker 1: but when I really respect the friendships that you have, well,

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Speaker 1: even ours, you know, we talk about it every now

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Speaker 1: and then, and you know, my philosophy on it. I

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Speaker 1: wish they'd teach it in schools. But I'm really excited

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I first met her in the eighties. You know,

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Speaker 3: But she was our local newscaster. She was the go

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Speaker 3: Meeka Berzhinski in Hartford. It is Hartford sort of like

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Speaker 3: But Gail really made that transition and we just, I

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Speaker 3: And during COVID, you know, I would talk to her

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Speaker 3: Is that, you know, the initials BFF. But I'm the

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Speaker 3: same way with you. I mean, my relationship with you

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Speaker 1: I think she's just that kind of person.

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Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that. And the friends we know, let's

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Speaker 3: Absolutely well, she's right in there. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: It's you know what's cool, skift is it? You know

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Speaker 1: Oh all my life, right, I've been curious.

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Speaker 3: You have to be curious, very curious about things you

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Speaker 3: having Gail. It's terrific. I'm just excited about it. You're

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Speaker 3: You go. All right, man, So I'll talk to you.

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Speaker 3: I probably won't talk to you until tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: You won't talk to me till an hour from now.

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Speaker 1: Hey did I tell you an hour ago that?

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Speaker 3: Hey, did you hear that you're my speed by every day.

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Speaker 1: all right, I take care of I love you. I

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Speaker 3: There's my girl.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Skippy, Hi, how are you hi?

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Speaker 1: Paul? Hi?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I can't believe we're doing a podcast together.

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Speaker 3: I was doing the mouth the math this morning, thinking

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Speaker 3: about for our days back in Hartford, and we've actually

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Speaker 3: known each other and been friends for more than thirty years. Wow.

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Speaker 2: And guess what, Skippy, we're still not old.

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Speaker 3: I know we're not, definitely not.

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Speaker 1: We don't use that word, Paul.

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Speaker 2: What word do we use?

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Speaker 1: We use older?

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Speaker 2: Somebody guys said the other day vintage. I don't like

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Speaker 1: We use older. You never use the word old.

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Speaker 3: You know what? I do like what Paul? And my

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Speaker 2: So true. That is so true.

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Speaker 1: And Skip was so excited about today, Gail. We've had

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Speaker 2: But I know I'm excited too.

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Speaker 1: He's been reving up he's been revving up and telling

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Speaker 2: He says nice things about YouTube ball.

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Speaker 1: Well he has good judgment. He's got good judge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he does.

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Speaker 3: He does so for the people that don't know. When

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Speaker 3: I grew up in Hartford, Connecticut, and Gail in the

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Speaker 2: Skippy. I was there from nineteen eighty one to nineteen

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Speaker 1: We used to go up to Hartford to break records.

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Speaker 3: Gale. I would say, like the commercial, You've come a

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Speaker 2: And I used to interview you because Skippy was he

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Speaker 2: was mister big, he was, he was demand in the

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Speaker 3: Today the big fish in the small pond. But har

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Speaker 3: But it was pretty great then, you know, with the

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Speaker 3: But I'm going to try to get back this summer.

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Speaker 3: My parents are buried there, so I'll go back and

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Speaker 2: No, I would like to. I was on the plane. Yes,

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Speaker 2: So I went to Japan guys earlier this month. Last

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Speaker 2: So we went on a girls trip as me, Oprah

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Speaker 2: couple said, Hi, Gail, we're from West Hartford and we

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Speaker 2: remember when you were on the news, and I said,

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Speaker 2: I haven't been back there and so long. They said

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Speaker 2: West Harford, Paul. I always wanted to live there, but

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Speaker 3: Speaking of respect. So when we went to Kyoto, you

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not mad at that, Skippy, that's right.

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Speaker 2: We stayed at the Aman Those Aman hotels are also pretty.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you where you wouldn't have stayed this riocon.

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Speaker 2: Any seasons, any season will do.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Paul, Well, I had one of those little rooms.

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Speaker 3: and Meryl Streep gave Share the award. Stevie, oh wow,

438
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Speaker 3: I Wonder gave Beyonce her award. But they want awards

439
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 3: that were given by And I'm sitting there and I'm

440
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 3: looking before Stevie Wonder came out, and I'm sitting there

441
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,160
Speaker 3: in the audience and thinking, there's arguably the greatest actress

442
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 3: of all time, Meryl Street. With Cher and Beyonce together

443
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,400
Speaker 3: on the same stage. I mean, it was it was

444
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 3: mind blowing.

445
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,199
Speaker 2: Oh how was that show? I wanted to go so

446
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 2: badly lucky you incredible.

447
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 3: The show's you know, Justin Timberlake openand who worked with

448
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 3: Paul did the opening of the new Fontaine Blue in

449
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 3: Las Vegas with Justin Timberlake.

450
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 2: But oh we love him.

451
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 3: Yes, he sang and danced and did his whole thing.

452
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 3: And then Jelly Roll, whose music I really wasn't familiar

453
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 3: with him. He's on my playlist now. This guy was incredible.

454
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 2: He's got a song called save Me.

455
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 3: He performed it at the iHeart Music Awards.

456
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 2: People were crying. He did it at Clive Davis's party

457
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: for the Grammys and people in the room were weeping.

458
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 2: He's got an amazing backstory. His album is good too.

459
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a good artist.

460
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're doing something with him.

461
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh great. Our mutual friend John Sykes got his

462
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 3: great seats of course, so we had a blast in

463
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 3: him oh stage after and you know, so everybody and

464
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 3: it was a lot of fun and also Jared Leto,

465
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 3: who like us, is a survivor of the Rising Sun yacht.

466
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 3: He was there and we visited with him for a while.

467
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Speaker 2: Oh man, that's the show. I saw it on TV

468
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 2: the other day the day after. I thought, God, I

469
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 2: wish I could have gone to that.

470
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Speaker 3: It was great.

471
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Speaker 2: Ah, lucky you, lucky you.

472
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 3: And our friend, our friend David Geffen is in town.

473
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Speaker 3: I had breakfast with him.

474
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Speaker 2: Did he go to the iHeart He did.

475
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Speaker 3: Not, but I was talking him about. I said, I'm

476
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Speaker 3: going to be with you today, And I said, Gale

477
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 3: and I share a lot in common. And one is

478
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 3: your boat is our happy place.

479
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Speaker 2: It is a special experience. And and Paul, it's called

480
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 2: the Rising Sun like Japan.

481
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I know the boat. Well, we passed each

482
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Speaker 1: other when I'm over there on Steve Wynn or Dennis

483
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 1: Washington's boats. We all hang in the same area.

484
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Speaker 2: Well, I will say this, Paul, it's very nice to

485
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 2: have friends that have both.

486
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Speaker 1: It's so cheap, it's wonderful. I don't have my own boat,

487
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: would never own a boat. Airplanes are another matter, but boats,

488
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: there's no way.

489
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: It's very nice to have friends that have boats and

490
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 2: allow you to come and play.

491
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.

492
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 3: So I was watching your morning show recently, as I

493
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 3: do literally every morning, your show, CBS Mornings, and you

494
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 3: had Maurice Ashley on, who you know, the world famous

495
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 3: best player.

496
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, he's the first black grand what is it

497
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 2: grand Master of chess?

498
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, he was phenomenal.

499
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Speaker 2: Do you play chess?

500
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,479
Speaker 3: I don't. My sister, my late sister was, at the

501
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 3: time of her death, the reigning United States Women's American

502
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Speaker 3: Bridge champion.

503
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've tried chess, Paul, do you play chess?

504
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: I was working in Vegas about forty years ago. I

505
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: played chess with a lot of show girls.

506
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I've just I've tried, guys, I've tried, and yeah,

507
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: some pieces move sideway, some move backwards. The black does this,

508
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 2: and the white does something, and I just but this guy,

509
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: Maurice Ashley, who was so good, he said that the

510
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 2: mistake people made, you know, because he's teaching five year olds.

511
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 2: He said, people just try to explain the whole game

512
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 2: to you, and what they should do is just concentrate

513
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,959
Speaker 2: on one piece at a time, master that and know

514
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: what that does and then move on, which made a

515
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 2: lot of sense to me. Normally, whenever it's been explained

516
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: to me, somebody gives me the whole thing all laid out,

517
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 2: and my mind just starts. I feel like my head's

518
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: gonna friggin pop off. But I would like to know

519
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: it because said it helps with your patience, with your acuity,

520
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 2: with your thought process, engaging in strategicy. So strategy copying

521
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: George was because I loved it when he said, tratejery.

522
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: But I would like to I now actually would like

523
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Speaker 2: to learn how to do it.

524
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Speaker 1: My eighteen year old son they played all the time,

525
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: him and his posse. They played poker, and they played

526
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: chess and they're really into it. Who did who my

527
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: eighteen year old son, Ethan.

528
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Speaker 2: So you have five daughters, five daughters.

529
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: And I have an eighteen year old son, Yes, eighteen

530
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: year old son, which is another story.

531
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 2: But this young ball, there's a story there.

532
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Speaker 1: Paul's going, believe me, he has the stuffed he just go,

533
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: go go. But they played chess and they listen.

534
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 2: Robert de Niro and Al Pacino late seventies early eighties,

535
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: just had a baby and I did an interview with

536
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: Robert de Niro shortly after the baby, and I just thought, well,

537
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: so were you surprised and he goes, no, we planned it.

538
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 2: I was surprised to you they had planned that they

539
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: wanted this baby. He goes, no, no, no, this is

540
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 2: not an accident. I went, wow, I'm impressed.

541
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Speaker 1: Keep some young.

542
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 3: So if I if I can just circle back one

543
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: last piece about Maurice Ashley. So you know, I'm a golfer,

544
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 3: right and I work with a golf instructor, golf psychologist,

545
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 3: doctor Bob Rotella, who's the world famous instructor, and he

546
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 3: always talks about with putting. He said something that resonated

547
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 3: with me, which is, it's about the process, not the result.

548
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 3: Just make sure your process is right. Sometimes the ball

549
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 3: will go in and some times it won't. It's not

550
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: about the result. And that's what Marie's.

551
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: That struck me too when he said that.

552
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 3: Playing bridge and other aspects of life, and he used

553
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 3: the same words. He said, well, it's about the process,

554
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 3: not the result. And I saw you the way that

555
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 3: resonated with you when he said that.

556
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that hit me too.

557
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: I just love the way in your interviews there's real

558
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 3: empathy and a genuine curiosity and I love that about you.

559
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 3: You know, you always always learn it Yeah.

560
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 2: You know, when I was a little kid, I was

561
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 2: called nosey, and I was very I didn't like that word.

562
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: I prefer the word inquisitive or curious. But I was

563
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: just always that kid who always had a million questions

564
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: about things and was trying to figure out why do

565
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: you do that that? You know, I always had questions

566
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 2: for people, why do you do that? What do you do?

567
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 2: Da Dad?

568
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: Always which we got to get to r Kelly somewhere

569
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: in this hour. Yeah, I mean, how did you stay

570
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: so calm through all of that? I mean, it was

571
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: amazing what you did and how you handled it.

572
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 2: But Paul, I never thought he was going to hurt me.

573
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: You know, even though he got very angry and was hitting,

574
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: I never thought he was going to hurt me. I

575
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 2: thought you have to be calm because I'd seen interviews

576
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 2: and when he gets angry, he gets up and storms out.

577
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: And my whole thought was, God, please, don'tly please if

578
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 2: you had seen a thought bubble, That's why I just said. Robert,

579
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: I looked at him, looked at the chair, looked at him,

580
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: looked at the chair to let him know, whatever this is,

581
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 2: I'm going to be sitting here waiting for you, and

582
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: he instantly read my body language. I didn't go to

583
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: touch him because I thought, you know, then you get

584
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 2: that hell. I just thought if i'd just sit here,

585
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: calmly and let him go through whatever this is, he

586
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: would sit back down. And I didn't think that he

587
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: wanted to hurt me. I was worried, Paul, that he

588
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: would accidentally hit me because he was flailing all around.

589
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: I was concerned about that.

590
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 1: But you kept your distances. Yes, yes, yes, it was

591
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: brilliant watching it, but when.

592
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: People are swinging, when people are swinging, sometimes distance isn't

593
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: enough love.

594
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 3: I love the way you repeated his name. You went Robert,

595
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 3: and you paused, You paused and Robert. You gave him

596
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: the double robber pause in the middle. It was just timing,

597
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 3: was true. Timing was just epic.

598
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: I was just trying to get his attention. What's funny

599
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 2: is they did a skit on that Guys on Saturday

600
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: Night Live, and you know, when you're in the middle

601
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: of it, you don't think of that, you don't think

602
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: of I'm creating a moment here. I was really just

603
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: trying to calm him down.

604
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: From that amazing moment that we loved who's the most

605
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: fascinating person that you've interviewed? Someone else stood out for you?

606
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: Well, it's always it's not necessarily famous people. I remember,

607
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 2: you know, the parents from the Newtown shooting still hold

608
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: a place in my heart because Kippy, as you know,

609
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: that was in Connecticut, so all Connecticut stories get to me.

610
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: I had a great interview with Jay Z recently, because

611
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: Jay doesn't give interviews, and I begged and growled the

612
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: same with Bruce Springsteen. It took me five years, but

613
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: I find if you're persistent and not obnoxious. You know,

614
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: I've always heard no spelled backwards is on, so I

615
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: take that as game on. And so if you just

616
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: just be persistent and be patient and people can feel

617
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: that from you, things will often work out.

618
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: How recent was Jay Z?

619
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Speaker 2: We based it on exhibition of him at the Brooklyn

620
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: Library where it was his career and so that we

621
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: did that a couple months ago.

622
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that at the library.

623
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, at the library. It just I think the exhibit

624
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 2: ended in October, and so we got to do it

625
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: something with him.

626
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: Well, would you ask him now, Gail this week with

627
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: what's going on?

628
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: Well, the whole thing, the big story now of course,

629
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: is involving Puffey.

630
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: That's the point.

631
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, I don't know how that's going to

632
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: turn out. Listen, the Feds don't raid your two of

633
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: your homes, the two, not one, but two.

634
00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: You know.

635
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: I believe an indictment is coming, and when the indictment

636
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: comes out, I think that that will tell whatever this is.

637
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure what this is. It's just sex trafficking.

638
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: What does that mean? What does that mean? So I'm curious,

639
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: I'm very curious.

640
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: You made the point though. They they know what they're

641
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: doing and what they have, and we don't get that's

642
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: always the case. They don't fool around with.

643
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: That, No, they don't. And then you know, they were

644
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: saying how I wasn't quite sure why they had to

645
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 2: handcuff his sons who were just standing outside, and then

646
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: somebody pointed out to me, well they also handcuff Felicity Huffman.

647
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: Well that's procedure for them, Gil and others. Where they

648
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: when they go into a house, they don't know. You know,

649
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 1: they got a tough job, these guys, and they overreact

650
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: maybe sometime, but when they're going into a house they've

651
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: never been in, you never know. What you're going to

652
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: encounter and their safety and those in their matter. So

653
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: they have to do that.

654
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, so it is procedure, But Paul

655
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 2: I kept thinking, you have to handcuff Felicity Huffman, you

656
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: have to handcuff his sons who are just clearly, you know,

657
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: standing there not armed. I don't know, but I also

658
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: understand what you're saying about procedure. And that's how it

659
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: was explained to me. It doesn't matter who it is,

660
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: they have to do what they have to do because

661
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: you don't know who's in the house and what's going on,

662
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: exactly what they reach for.

663
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: So on a happier note, one of the people you

664
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 3: interviewed a mutual friend of ours, Chris Rock. I love

665
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: the way you helped that interview was great, and you

666
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: know what I love. He's such a great guy to

667
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: Paul and I talk about this a lot. A lot

668
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: of comedians when they're not performing, they're not funny. I mean,

669
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 3: I can't tell you how many comedians that I've met

670
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: and then I say, wow, I'm going to be with

671
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 3: so and so it's going to be great, and go

672
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 3: to dinner with them, and like I'll call Paul later

673
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: that night, I'll say I was with whomever. He didn't

674
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: say one thing that was funny. I was funnier than

675
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: he was. I don't get it.

676
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: They don't want to be on all the time.

677
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: But Chris Rock, he is genuinely funny. He's genuinely funny,

678
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: as is Sebastian.

679
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: I was going to say as a Sebastian.

680
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm very close to Larry, to Larry David,

681
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 3: we play golf together on weekends and JB's smooth plays

682
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: Leon on Curb Enthusiasm.

683
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: He is now, he seems funny all the time.

684
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: All the time. I just go to an emergency ward

685
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: after films. This guy is so wound up skim I

686
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: saw the other night. I said, this is not real.

687
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: They must take him right to a hospital. They're out

688
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 1: for two days. But he's brilliant.

689
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 3: He's so funny, he is so hilarious. He just blurts

690
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 3: things out that you know. Larry sort of used our

691
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: screening room at our home as almost I called it

692
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: his editing bab because he showed all the episodes, you know,

693
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: before they came out, and you know, they sort of

694
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: did some editing and reworking. He was there for every

695
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: one of them and got in his wife, Shah, who

696
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 3: is just a doll. But he he comes to the house,

697
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: never comes empty handed. He just but the things that

698
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: he comes out with. So he collects classic cars. So

699
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: we walked to the front door of the house, say

700
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: to say goodbye to everybody, and he's in the courtyard.

701
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 3: He starts up this carr he had like a nineteen

702
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: seventy eight Maserati. Started this thing up. It was the

703
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 3: loudest thing, and all these all my environmentalist friends are like,

704
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: you know, ah, they're standing there and he just throws

705
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 3: it into first gear and then he pulls over and

706
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: everybody's like got their mouth open. He puts the passenger

707
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: window down and he says it's electric and drives out

708
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: of the driveway. He is just a beautiful man. And

709
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: here is this.

710
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,719
Speaker 2: Is what I find too about comedians. They're so quick.

711
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: They're so quick. I mean, they just observe things in

712
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: life and instantly they see things differently than the rest

713
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: of us, and they're able to process it instantly. You know,

714
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: I love Curb your enthusiasm. And the other day Bruce

715
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: Springsteen in appearance on curb.

716
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: Your enthusiasm did very well too.

717
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: Are they are they friends?

718
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 3: Bruce and Larry No, and Alan Rubin again our friend

719
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: and you're a lawyer. Said to me, Hey, make sure

720
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 3: you let Larry know that Bruce Springsteen is one of

721
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: my clients. I said, guess what, he won't hear it.

722
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: I was so curious about how that came about.

723
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: Because Bruce Springsteen's people. Yeah, they reach out to people

724
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: and they get people that you wouldn't imagine, and a

725
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 3: lot of times people who you wouldn't think of. I

726
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: don't want to be on the show.

727
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: And so they just reached out to Bruce and he

728
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: said yes, yeah.

729
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: And by the way, he's a good actor. He was

730
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 3: really good. Yeah, he was terrect.

731
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: But that was such a surprise. But I'm really disappointed

732
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: that he says this is the last season. Do you

733
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: really think that's true?

734
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 3: I do, Yeah, but he's not going away.

735
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: If it's a health issue.

736
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: Though.

737
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: If it's a health issue, I don't believe it when

738
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: performers say that they all give.

739
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: It unless it's a health.

740
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: Issue, and then they go on for a five year

741
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: farewell tour. You know by then they're ninety two.

742
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: I can report that he does not have any health

743
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 3: issue and he's in great shape.

744
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: But he so why is he pulling the plug then

745
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: when it's still so good.

746
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 3: Because he just it just feels there was enough. But

747
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 3: he's going to do other things. Just stay tuned. He'll

748
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: be doing things. He's not going well. He's not going well.

749
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: Sinatra said it four times, four times.

750
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, tell Gail that story, Paul, about how when

751
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 3: you wrote My Way for him, you have to tell Gail.

752
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: Well, I started with those guys, Gail, back in the

753
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: early fifties. I went to Vegas at fifty eight, and

754
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: I wound up with the rat Pack and there with

755
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: guys I idolized, Sinatra, Sammy Davis, who was the most

756
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: talented of everybody, and Dean Martin, and you know, through

757
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: those years I got to know them well, but I

758
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: was still the kid. You know. These guys were twice

759
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: my age, but I was working for the mob like

760
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: they were, and they controlled and we had our life

761
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: and we were having frolicking and having fun. But I'd

762
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: always wanted to write for Sinatra because he was like

763
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: the guy. And I was at the Fountain Blue Hotel

764
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: in the late sixties. He was in town doing a

765
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: film called Lady AND's Event, and with the guys we

766
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: worked for it could have been a documentary, you know.

767
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: But he was He was very cool. And he called

768
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: me up and he said, dinner, dinner, I want to

769
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: talk to you. So I went to dinner with him

770
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: and he was with Mia Farrell, who was oh wow,

771
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: twenty one. So we're at dinner and one thing led

772
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: to another. He said, kid, I'm quitting show biz. I've

773
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: had enough. I'm tired, rat packs over doing one.

774
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: And that's what he called you, kid.

775
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, we all had nicknames. Sammy had a name, Dean

776
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: had a name. I was the kid, and we're on

777
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: our bath roads because all the fun was in the

778
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: steam room when our shows were over. We won't go

779
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: into that. So he at dinner, he said I'm quitting

780
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: and I would do one more album with Don and

781
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: he said, you never wrote me a song. And I

782
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: looked at him and Mia Farrell and I said, well,

783
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: maybe you can do my song Poppy Love, which didn't

784
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: go over too well at that time. Yes, yes, twenty one.

785
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: And she's sitting there, yes, yes.

786
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: So anyway, I go home.

787
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: Paul.

788
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: That's one of those cases where they go read the ruined.

789
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: By right, right right. But he was cool. He was cool.

790
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: So I go home to New York. I sit down.

791
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: In five hours, I finished the lyric of My Way,

792
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: and I fly out to Vegas the next night and

793
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: he said, kid, I love it. Two months later he

794
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: called and said from a studio in La he said, kid,

795
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: listen to this, and he played it over the phone.

796
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: That's the first time I heard it. I started crying

797
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: because my life changed, so did his. It was such

798
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: a big hit. He stayed for ten years, so that

799
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: to your point, he was retiring, but he stayed ten

800
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: more years because the song was huge.

801
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: But when you finish that, because the song still, that

802
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: song still holds up still. When you finished it, did

803
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: you know that it was a hit?

804
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: Did you know that I knew it was different and

805
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: very special different. Yeah, you don't. It was a spiritual

806
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: moment for me. I believe that a lot of creative

807
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: people are really sensing some kind of spiritualism in creative

808
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: and I knew that it was different than every thing

809
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: else that I'd ever written. And I was kind of

810
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: metaphorically writing it with him in mind, because I was

811
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: moved to the fact that he was leaving, so I

812
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: wrote it as if he were writing. But it just

813
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: came together and it hit me very very hard that

814
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: I knew it was. It was going to be something

815
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: very special.

816
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 2: We all knew moved to tears. Who else has saying

817
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 2: it other than Frank that you thought, Oh they nailed that,

818
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 2: you thought, Gail.

819
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: There's like thousands of record My favorite record was Brooke Benton.

820
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: Do you know Brook Benton? Is?

821
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: I know?

822
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 2: I know who that is.

823
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. You might be a little young on the edge there, Brooke,

824
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: but Brooke Benton was amazing. Nina Simone was unbelievable. The

825
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: Gypsy King Yeah, Nina Siome did a great record, and

826
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 1: so did the Gypsy Kings.

827
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: I don't know the Gypsy Kings, Skippy, Do you know

828
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: the Gypsy Kings?

829
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen them perform.

830
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: Do you not know who they are?

831
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 2: Gale Gypsy Kings.

832
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: Oh, my darling. You have to get their CDs.

833
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 2: Now, I got to google.

834
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: You will. They are so internationally and even here they

835
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: are so uniquely special and they're called the Gypsy You

836
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: will love their music. I found them with my friend

837
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 1: in France in the sixties. But they're huge, huge international act.

838
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: The Gypsy Kings.

839
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: Okay, I see him here.

840
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: You will love their music. It is so inspiring. They're great.

841
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: It's g I p s Y.

842
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: Gypsies like g y g y p s Y Gypsy.

843
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: And you know Gail. One of my favorites, you know,

844
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 3: as the young person, was Buddy Holly, and Paul wrote

845
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 3: one of Buddy Holly's most iconic songs also, which.

846
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: One it doesn't Matter Anymore. It was the last song

847
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: he recorded before he died in one of.

848
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 3: These Yeah, it's great. It was funny one time I

849
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 3: was with Paul and somebody said to him, you know,

850
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: what was that song that you wrote for Buddy Holly?

851
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: And Paul said, it doesn't matter anymore, and the guys said, well,

852
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: it matters to me. That's perfect, knowl.

853
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 2: But what's funny is when you did that, I thought

854
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: I thought Paul was saying it doesn't matter anymore. What

855
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 2: it was too, I thought the same thing. I thought

856
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: the same thing, and then I used context clues to

857
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: figure out, oh, that's the name of the song.

858
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 3: But you know, okay, Paul is eighty two and he's

859
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: still out performing and eating. And I just went to

860
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: his concert here in Beverly Hills a few weeks ago,

861
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 3: and I first saw him perform more than forty years ago.

862
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 3: And I have to say, and I'm not saying it

863
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: because he's here, the show is even better than it

864
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 3: was then. He's got so much energy, And.

865
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: Is it better now?

866
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: It is?

867
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

868
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: So do you feel that to Paul that it's better now?

869
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: You feel it? I live it and feel it so different.

870
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: It's apples oranges is no contests.

871
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: But do you have more energy now than you did then?

872
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: I've always had energy, but growing yourself, your body of

873
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: work is larger, your audiences. It's a love fest. You know,

874
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: they grow up with you, they stay with you. You paid

875
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand people a night wherever you know, go all

876
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: over and you get that feedback. There's no contest.

877
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 2: Do you perform in New York too?

878
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: Perform in New York. We'll be touring in the area

879
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 1: in June.

880
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, Now I'm coming to a show.

881
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: He can sun seen in Connecticut, right near your Hartford turf.

882
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're going to be in New York.

883
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: You said, yeah, I'll be around New York doing a

884
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: few places. You Okay, Well, we'll try and hold you

885
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: to that.

886
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes.

887
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 3: Another person who made the transition from Hartford to New

888
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 3: York is your former co anchor in Hertford, Mika Bersinski.

889
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, on MSNBC killing it over there.

890
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: She was your co anchor on Channel three and her yep, yep, she's.

891
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: Killing it over there. I mean, you know, we live

892
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: in such dicey times now, and she and Joe just

893
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: have a very unique voice on the air in the

894
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: morning because we're all trying to figure out how this

895
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: is going to go in twenty twenty four.

896
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: No, I was just wondering what when she said, it's

897
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: so different today. You know, we're in an age now

898
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: where a lot of people are getting those quick clips

899
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: from TikTok. You have to have an opinion of that,

900
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: because it was never like that years ago.

901
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: Yes, And I just, Paul, this is what I want.

902
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: I just want people to do their own due diligence.

903
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: I want people to really pay attention, because if you

904
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: just get a little SoundBite here and a little SoundBite there,

905
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: and you're influenced by that, you are not getting the

906
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: whole story. But that is how so many people consume

907
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: the news these days. And if you're only listening to

908
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: your own little silo too. You know, there are some

909
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: politicians who are very as I say, fluid with the truth,

910
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: don't tell the truth. And if you're just keyed in

911
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: on that. I'm very very worried about us as a country.

912
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: I'm very very worried.

913
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: Well we and we should be, but little more optimistic

914
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 1: and that it's still an amazing country in this bread

915
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: basket of sure Canada, Mexico and all of that comes together.

916
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: No one's going to be better than we are. We

917
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: just have those kind of assets. But I found that,

918
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people are not educated enough

919
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: to realize they've got to get to the source of

920
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: what it is. They just see what's they look at

921
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: a television lines and they don't go down and dig

922
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: in and get the source of what is real.

923
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 2: And that's it doesn't seem to have these problems though, Paul.

924
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: No, they can't read up there.

925
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: They're just.

926
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: Canada has its own set of problems. It's a it's

927
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: a cool place to be from. Uh, you know, they

928
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: live in this in the shadow of this big elephant.

929
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: It's a great country.

930
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 2: But it says I love so very Paul they're also

931
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: very polite in Canada. When you go to the Toronto

932
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 2: Film Festival. Yes, you know, just walking the red carpet here,

933
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: the paparazzi's like, Paul, you know you go there, they're

934
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: very And I said to the paparazzi, got god, you

935
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 2: guys are so polite here. And he said, Gail, we're Canadian,

936
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: which I thought was so nice. He goes, Gail, we're Canadian.

937
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: And he's right. You know, there is a Canadian factor,

938
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: if you get I'm just telling what I think is factual.

939
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: Most Canadian artists when they come down here, and you've

940
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: seen this so many where there wasn't they all have

941
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: that Canadian thing, their upbringing, their education, you know, how

942
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: their parents really fit in most of their lives. And

943
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: there is a Canadian thing, and you know, we're all

944
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: very proud of it.

945
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 3: I know.

946
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: But it's just the way he said, we're Canadian. He's right,

947
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: and that said everything.

948
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: I was in Toronto once and I saw a guy

949
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 3: wearing a sweatshirt and it said Canada has two seasons

950
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 3: hockey and no hockey.

951
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 2: Is that true?

952
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 3: Always one of the owners of the Ottawa Senators hockey team.

953
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: Oh wow, back in the day.

954
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: We we well, not too far, but we Yeah, we

955
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: brought it up to Ottawa because you know, it emerged

956
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 1: from as Skip said, it was a ca Adan sport

957
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: and obviously it's everywhere now but Otto, which is the capital.

958
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: We didn't have a team, so just through friends that

959
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: I knew, we arranged to have the Ottawa Senators. They're

960
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 1: still not doing too well.

961
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 3: And we had Michael Bublay on our podcast.

962
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Michael came on.

963
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, Paul, tell Gail what he has in the

964
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 3: basement of his home in Vancouver.

965
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: He's got a hockey rink in his home, in his

966
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: new home. You know, I started with Michael. I produced

967
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: his first baby.

968
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

969
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a couple of kids and they're doing well,

970
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: and the one with cancer. I think that's all behind them. Yes,

971
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: he's built a great home up there. You know, the

972
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: first thing you do, you get the big check, you

973
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: get the big home. But he's got a nice rink

974
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: down in the basement. And when I was recording him,

975
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: we'd be playing outside David Foster House with a tennis

976
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: ball and two hockey sticks. That's all we did on

977
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: our breaks was play hockey. You know, we're nuts about

978
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: our hockey. But he's got a rink at home and

979
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: he plays, and he's.

980
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: Close to the two of you together are good. I'll

981
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: bet your would be really good together.

982
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did a duet. He was on my Duets album?

983
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: Is it Michael?

984
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 3: Okay?

985
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: Michael's on there, Michael Jackson, Frank Sinatra, Willie Nelson. I

986
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of great artists on that.

987
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: But Michael, do what's are fun? I think do what's

988
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: are fun? I like to see the combination, how you

989
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 2: put it together.

990
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: I'll send you the CD. You'll get a kick out

991
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: of it.

992
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: I can download it. I don't get it. I will, Paul,

993
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: I will actually buy it. I will spend money and

994
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: buy it.

995
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: I would enjoy bringing it to you personally instead of

996
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 1: have you buy it.

997
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: You know, Gail, you do so much in so many

998
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 3: different areas, and even you know your work as you

999
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 3: said with Oprah with her projects, and you're championing I

1000
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: know you're champion a number of causes including cancer awareness,

1001
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 3: women's empowerment, social justice. Why is that important to you?

1002
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 3: First of all? And second ball, I think people would

1003
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: be interested. How do you fit it all in it's

1004
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 3: just your your.

1005
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: Unbeliefing because I I just think it's important to be

1006
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: a responsible and you know, the state of the world. Really,

1007
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding when I say I'm very concerned about

1008
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: us as human beings, and so I think whenever you

1009
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: can shine a light and make a difference, we should

1010
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: all do so. But see, this is what I believe

1011
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: from the core of my being, that we are more

1012
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: like than not, and that most of us want to

1013
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: do good and most of us want to do the

1014
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: right thing. And that really is how I lead my life.

1015
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: It's not hard to be nice, it's not hard to

1016
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: be kind, and I think if we could just put

1017
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 2: that out into the world, it makes us all better

1018
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: people in a better place. Yeah, I agree, that's all

1019
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: I mean. The other day I had the nightmare of

1020
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: nightmares coming back from Japan, as I'd flown out with

1021
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: OPRAH to Japan and then I flew back commercial from

1022
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 2: Hawaii back to the States. But you know, it was

1023
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 2: problem after problem after problem with the flight. You know,

1024
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: we're taken off from Honolulu. An hour and a half

1025
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 2: into the flight, the pilot says, ladies and gentlemen, a

1026
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: panel is I'm off of the engine where you have

1027
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: to go back to Honolulu and oh, by the way,

1028
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: there'll be fire trucks there, but don't be concerned. What

1029
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: do you mean, don't be concerned? So it was just delayed, delay, delay,

1030
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: and after a while it became comical. But I just thought,

1031
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: we just all have to maintain being calm here. It's

1032
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 2: not going to do any good to start screaming at

1033
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 2: hollering and screaming at people. That gets you nowhere. It

1034
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: gets you nowhere.

1035
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: Can't deal from emotion, can't deal from emotion.

1036
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 3: It's like with a doctor, when a doctor tells you

1037
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 3: there's nothing to be concerned about, But that's when you

1038
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 3: should be concerned. But you know, you mentioned Oprah, and

1039
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 3: of course people know about you, know, your friendship. I

1040
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 3: know that it was back in nineteen seventy six.

1041
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: But we've been friends since we were twenty one and

1042
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: twenty two and now we're sixty nine and seventy.

1043
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 3: Click right away, how did you become friends?

1044
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1045
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: Where did you first meet Gail? So?

1046
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: We worked at a TV station in Baltimore. But this

1047
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: is the thing. I was a production assistant, which is

1048
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: you might imagine as an entry level position at twenty one.

1049
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 2: At twenty two, she was one of the main anchors,

1050
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 2: and those two normally don't hang together. But we were

1051
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 2: both single, we were both black, we were both young,

1052
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: we were both women. And one day there was a

1053
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 2: bad storm and I couldn't get home. I was still

1054
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 2: my apartment. She lived in this swanky apartment. I lived

1055
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 2: forty five minutes away into Koma Park, into Koma Park,

1056
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 2: paying one hundred and ten and rent, and I thought

1057
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 2: that was a lot of money. But the roads were

1058
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: such that I couldn't get home. And she said, oh,

1059
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 2: you can spend the night at my house. But I

1060
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: didn't know her well, and I go said, yeah, but

1061
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: I don't have any clothes. She says, I have clothes.

1062
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: She said I have, And I said I don't have underwear.

1063
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: She goes, I have underwear, and it's clean. She said,

1064
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 2: I only draw the line at the toothbrush. Will stop

1065
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: at the drug store and get you a toothbrush.

1066
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: You know.

1067
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: I told that three years ago, and the headline in

1068
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: the National Inquiry was the night I wore Oprah's underwear,

1069
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 2: which is so stupid. But anyway, I went home that

1070
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: night with her, and it was like we had found

1071
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: kindred spirits. It's like when you're thirteen and you go

1072
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: to a girlfriend's house for a sleepover. We stayed up

1073
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: all night talking about do you I think so and

1074
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: so is boinking? How do you feel about this? Blah

1075
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. And we had very similar life

1076
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 2: philosophies and felt the same about certain kinds of people.

1077
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 2: That's why it's so funny. I heard her once say

1078
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 2: I don't believe in gossip. I don't gossip. And I

1079
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: called her and said, when did that start? I mean,

1080
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: so we've been friends ever since that night, and we

1081
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: did click.

1082
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: But you know what's so important what she's saying skip

1083
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 1: what lacks today? I've noticed, and they've got to teach

1084
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: it in schools. The essence and the meaning of friendships

1085
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: is so important if you've got good friends, let alone

1086
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: a wife or a partner who must be a friend.

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00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: Kids today do not understand how important it is to

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00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: have friends. They've got to teach it in schools because

1089
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: with this modern world. And you know you, guys, I

1090
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: sense and I know that you're very very close, and

1091
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: I think that she's got to be so proud of you.

1092
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,959
Speaker 1: I mean, you start as an assistant. Look at you now,

1093
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you're leader of the pack, and she's got

1094
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: to be so proud of Yeah, she is. You've landed,

1095
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: you know, because she's a very giving and open person.

1096
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 2: Very much so. And guys, it's not like you need

1097
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: a ton of friends. Just have a small circle of

1098
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: people that you can trust. That's in the world we

1099
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: live in today, that's very very difficult.

1100
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: You can't you can't trust.

1101
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 3: Paul and I have that kind of friendship. And you

1102
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 3: know what's great. If I'm working on a project and

1103
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 3: it's exciting, Paul wants to hear about it, and he

1104
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 3: because he's the greatest cheerleader, and I'm the same way

1105
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: I was talking to you about. Oh you should see Paul.

1106
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 3: I just saw his performance. Yes, it's unbelievable. And you know,

1107
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 3: you become what you just both hit on. I think

1108
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 3: is so important. You have to have a really great

1109
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 3: friend and I'm blessed to have a few of them.

1110
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 3: But you know, Paul is certainly one of mind.

1111
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: But guess what now, I want to go to a

1112
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: Paul Anchor concert. I want to go and Paul I

1113
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: would like a good seat.

1114
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you that if you'd like to sit

1115
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: where the drummer sits, I'll put you there. You've got it.

1116
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: You're down, You're down, You're down.

1117
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 3: But as Paul said, he's select about what he does.

1118
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 3: He manages his life well. But you know, even at

1119
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 3: eighty two, he's out there killing it performing that crazy.

1120
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know it's funny. I was just saying

1121
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 3: to Edie, you know when I was just on a

1122
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 3: business trip to Florida for eight days and I can't

1123
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 3: wait to be home and just hang out. And I

1124
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 3: looked at my calendar. I don't have to fly anywhere

1125
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 3: for three weeks. I'm like, oh my god. Paul just

1126
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 3: came back from you know, performing on tour, and you

1127
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 3: know he's leaving tomorrow to go to Hawaii.

1128
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, what, Like, you're leaving tomorrow.

1129
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 3: Work.

1130
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: I can't go there tomorrow, so I could be here

1131
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: with you today.

1132
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: Oh thanks?

1133
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: Going down to Larry Ellison's got this Kawhi.

1134
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1135
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: So I'm going down with a friend for about six

1136
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: days and going to hang and ero because I got

1137
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: to come back. I'm in the middle of my documentary

1138
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: and I'm doing a Broadway show in my life and

1139
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: I've got that. You know, it takes your time up,

1140
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 1: so you've got to get some rest in between.

1141
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: When when will your documentary be out?

1142
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: We're almost we're about eighty percent finished, finance done, and

1143
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: we're trying to head for the Toronto Film Festival.

1144
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 2: Oh that's nice. That's in September.

1145
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're wrapping it up.

1146
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: Larry Ellison, there were rumors guys that he was going

1147
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 2: to buy Paramount Global or buy or CBS or something.

1148
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: That was a rumor a lot of rumors out there.

1149
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, do you have any upcoming things that

1150
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 3: we haven't covered, like anything else that's in the work

1151
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 3: scale that you know?

1152
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm just out here working really really,

1153
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: really satisfied with what I'm doing.

1154
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 3: But I was thinking, you know, when I was talking

1155
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 3: to you during COVID, you were just like locked in

1156
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 3: your apartment because.

1157
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: I was really afraid. I didn't I didn't leave my

1158
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 2: apartment for over one hundred days, so you know, they

1159
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: even brought in the equipment so we could do it.

1160
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 3: I remember, but I was just so.

1161
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: Freaked out by it because we didn't really know what

1162
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 2: was happening. We're going to look back on that period

1163
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: and say, how in the world did we get through this?

1164
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: But it is interesting how people were able to improvise

1165
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 2: and still keep the country and still keep businesses and

1166
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 2: still keep families going. It's extraordinary.

1167
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 3: And that was amazing because some people they just try

1168
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 3: to do anything they could to get out and get

1169
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: out and be about. And you were and I was

1170
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 3: talking to you during that period and you were said, Skip,

1171
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 3: I'm still here. I'm just locked in.

1172
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. That was one of the rare times that I

1173
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 2: thought God, being single sucks because at least I once

1174
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: talked to a friend of mine who said, you know, Gail,

1175
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: you keep talking about because I still believe in romance

1176
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 2: and love and all that stuff. Right now, I'm currently single,

1177
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: alert and available spread the word. But a friend of

1178
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 2: mine who is married, said, you know, you can still

1179
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 2: be married and still be lonely. I said, well, I

1180
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 2: don't want one of.

1181
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: Them, right, I don't want one of them, right. But

1182
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: being alone doesn't mean you're going to be lonely because

1183
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: if you exactly, if you're the wrong person, it's the worst.

1184
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: Oh that's exactly right, with the wrong person or someone

1185
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: that you're bored that you were bored out of it.

1186
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: I hate that word.

1187
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: I don't even be bored.

1188
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can't even exist.

1189
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 3: With that word. Yes, yes, yes, But isn't it hard

1190
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 3: to be honest to balance any kind of a personal

1191
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 3: life with your demanding career that you have. I mean,

1192
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 3: you're so you're working all the time.

1193
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know you would figure that out if

1194
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 2: you had someone. That's right, It's true you would. If

1195
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 2: you had someone, you would figure that out. But because

1196
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 2: I take care of me myself and I I can

1197
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 2: do many different things.

1198
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 3: My former neighbor in Fairfield, Connecticut is very similar, Martha Stewart.

1199
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, same way.

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00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, with not with a guy. I would love to

1201
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 3: be with a guy. I know.

1202
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 2: I saw Martha recently. We were talking about that. She

1203
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 2: did she go online? I think she I'd be afraid

1204
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 2: to go online and nothing, none of that worked out.

1205
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 2: But yeah, she would too. You know, we've actually had

1206
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 2: this conversation. I had this conversation with Shaer Share is

1207
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: in a relationship right now, and she's very happy. She

1208
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: is very, very very happy. He's considerably younger. And I said,

1209
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,240
Speaker 2: how does that work? How does it work?

1210
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: Easy?

1211
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 2: Paul, That's what she said.

1212
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: Very you know, until you're under the bed or on

1213
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: the wall, it's easy. There's nothing wrong, nothing wrong with

1214
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: young There's nothing wrong with the right person, the youngest.

1215
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 2: But Paul, I've always said, I don't want to be

1216
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 2: a nurse or a purse's and also don't want to

1217
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 2: be with someone who I could have possibly given birth to.

1218
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 2: I don't mind younger, I don't mind younger. I don't

1219
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: want somebody I could have given birth to. And so

1220
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: and I was talking to Share about that. She's very

1221
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: comfortable in her own skin and very comfortable with this guy.

1222
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,479
Speaker 2: So I said, listen, if it's working for you, more

1223
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 2: power to you. I just was curious.

1224
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: I adore her, but she's very, very talent. She's cool.

1225
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too.

1226
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: You know, you get into these relationships. The fallen love

1227
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,240
Speaker 1: period to me, has always been a farce. You can't

1228
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 1: can't go for that. Absolutely, it's not real. You need

1229
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: to come out of the other end of that honeymoon

1230
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: fallen love period to where you've got a friend and

1231
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: you've got some substance and you're locked, but you're so

1232
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: deceived by falling in love.

1233
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 2: It doesn't I know, but isn't it the process. It's

1234
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: nice of that it is or is that?

1235
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, Gail, but it's part of it.

1236
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: It's sustainable.

1237
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, you want sustainable. The front part is easy.

1238
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: Everybody's oh yes, yeah, no, no, no, You've got to get

1239
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: the rollout and land together and then you got a shot.

1240
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 1: Because it's complicated. It's complicated, especially in the modern world.

1241
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: You know, marriage was created for the nomadic race years ago.

1242
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: How long did they live. We're living in modern times

1243
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: and people are learning how to exist differently, and marriage

1244
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: has a whole different The whole relationship scene is whatever

1245
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: makes you happy, but living longer.

1246
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: I'm at that stage, Paul. I agree with you.

1247
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at you right now, Gail. You look

1248
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 3: better than you did thirty years.

1249
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: Really, I don't know. Oh yeah, I feel better the

1250
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 2: only time I feel my age or my knees. So

1251
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 2: I now think, is there a way to get up

1252
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 2: off the toilet without going?

1253
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 3: Oh?

1254
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: If you can just stand up, then he is report.

1255
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 3: So with that, your team informed us. You have a

1256
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 3: hard style.

1257
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: I know I have another zoom. Yeah, to be good,

1258
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, to be continued. Maybe maybe I'll

1259
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: meet him at your show, Paul, maybe I'll meet him

1260
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: at your show. Thank you, guys, thank you so much

1261
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 2: for asking me.

1262
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: No, we're honored to have you.

1263
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 3: No, thank you for doing really.

1264
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 2: Fun and Paul and you stay today before going to way,

1265
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

1266
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: No, No, it's my pleasure. Listen. You got to make

1267
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: the right moves in life. Oh why I can always

1268
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: go and I've been going for years. But to do

1269
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: this with you, that's an easy one. That's like, that's

1270
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: a blink.

1271
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you so much.

1272
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 3: And thanks for being one of my great friends. I

1273
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 3: just love you the most. You're the great.

1274
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 2: Sending love back to you. Bye, Gail, Bye, Paul. I'm

1275
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 2: coming to your show.

1276
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 3: See you.

1277
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: Our Way with Paul, Anka and Skip Bronson is a

1278
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio.

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00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 3: The show's executive producer is Jordan Runtog, with super advising

1280
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 3: producer and editor Marcy Depina, who.

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00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:07,400
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