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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Let's just dive right in with the days of Noah.

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Speaker 2: How do you propose the let's say, the conditions and

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Speaker 2: events during the days of Noah, how they correlate with

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Speaker 2: the let's say, the increased activities of giants and fallen

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Speaker 2: angels according to biblical texts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we have a sort of a conjoining of

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Speaker 3: a couple of narratives in Genesis six, where you have

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Speaker 3: the flood story, and in the preamble to the flood

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Speaker 3: story you have the creation of the giants. And at

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Speaker 3: the end of Genesis five you get the genealogies of

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Speaker 3: the Setnites, and it ends with Noah and his three sons.

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Speaker 3: Then we get the giant creation, and then we get

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Speaker 3: Noah's commission and to build the arc, and the flood

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Speaker 3: will come thereafter. And the information that we get for

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Speaker 3: this is that there's violence and corruption that is going

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Speaker 3: on before the flood. So there's one hundred years between

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Speaker 3: the start of the commission and until Noah goes on

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Speaker 3: the arc with his three sons and their wives, and

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Speaker 3: of course Noah's wife as well. But we don't really

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Speaker 3: get a lot of context with that as to who

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Speaker 3: are these giants, which is Hebrew nepheline, which is Hebrew

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Speaker 3: for giants, and all the other associated words are associated

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Speaker 3: with giants as descriptions as tyrants and bully. And we

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Speaker 3: also don't get a complete picture from the limited amount

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Speaker 3: of detail as to the level of technology that was

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Speaker 3: there before the flood. And so the violence part is

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Speaker 3: why the giants are in the preamble to the flood

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Speaker 3: story as the fuller context, and they're taught all of

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Speaker 3: the crops of war, all of the technology that was

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Speaker 3: that accumulated to a level very quickly that had the

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Speaker 3: power to destroy the earth. And you have a another

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Speaker 3: indication of the technology that's in the Hebrew word translated

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Speaker 3: as corrupted the earth in Genesis six and Genesis seven,

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Speaker 3: and the whole earth was corrupted, and that's the Hebrew

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Speaker 3: word chica, and that means to pervert, to ruin, to destroy,

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Speaker 3: words like that. So there's a degradation that's going on,

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Speaker 3: and that overlaps into the DNA and overlaps into the

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Speaker 3: plant genome. So we get an interesting passage from Jesus

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Speaker 3: and his oration to the disciples in Matthew, Mark and

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Speaker 3: Luke about the days of Noah and then with looting

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Speaker 3: matches with the days of Lot, which is additional information

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Speaker 3: that the end time is going to be like the flood,

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Speaker 3: and that there's more than just the godlessness that's going on.

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Speaker 3: There's this technology and the level of that technology that

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Speaker 3: we're just catching up to today, which is why we're

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Speaker 3: using some of those ancient terms like kimara for DNA manipulation,

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Speaker 3: and so this is the level of technology that is

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Speaker 3: kind of reflected that needs to come back in the

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Speaker 3: Book of Ecclesiastics in chapter one, where it says that

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Speaker 3: there's nothing new under the sun. What was will be

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Speaker 3: a gain, and it goes on to say that the

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Speaker 3: understanding and gaining of this kind of wisdom brings grief

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Speaker 3: and sorrow. So we had allen angels or gods in

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Speaker 3: the Polytheist accounts walking amongst us before the flood, who

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Speaker 3: pro created in all cultures around the world, according to

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Speaker 3: the Polytheist accounts, to create demigods, which is just another

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Speaker 3: word for a giant and demigod in ancient meanings the

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Speaker 3: offspring of a god and a human female or a

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Speaker 3: goddess and a human male, and they produce these giants

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Speaker 3: known by different names and great numbers around the world,

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Speaker 3: and they're able to usurp with their size, their warrior capabilities,

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Speaker 3: thrones around the world, and they lead the whole war

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Speaker 3: into this destruction, and they're on the capability of destroying

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Speaker 3: the world, which is sort of my speculation with the

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Speaker 3: accumulation of this knowledge and why God brings the flood

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Speaker 3: so that all of the people whose names, all of

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Speaker 3: the sentient beings whose names were written in the Book

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Speaker 3: of Life from before creation will have a chance to

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Speaker 3: have leave their names in the Book of Life or

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Speaker 3: blowed is out based on what they do while they're

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Speaker 3: on the earth. And so it's very important that we

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Speaker 3: understand what was going on before the flood because it

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Speaker 3: cycles throughout the post Alluvian history as well.

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Speaker 4: You laid the groundwork there brilliantly.

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Speaker 2: Gary, Now, can you explain the significance of differentiating between

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Speaker 2: the various types of giants you mentioned and that are

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Speaker 2: that are mentioned in ancient texts like the Nephilim and

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Speaker 2: the Refayem and the Gibborim and so forth, and then,

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Speaker 2: and also their impact on historical human societies.

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Speaker 4: Why is it important to differentiate between them.

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Speaker 3: There's always information in the words and the connection to

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Speaker 3: the chronology of events, both before and after the floods.

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Speaker 3: So one of the terms that we get for giants'

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Speaker 3: is nepheline, as we've talked about, and they're described as

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Speaker 3: the mighty ones, which is the Hebrew word gibor and

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Speaker 3: Giborim would be the male plural, as people would understand

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Speaker 3: that in English and interestingly left, yes, there is a

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Speaker 3: female plural for that, and that giberon has a similar

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Speaker 3: meaning and could be applied to a female giant or

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Speaker 3: the application of that power and nephilem biblically were before

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Speaker 3: the flood, and the only times that we have nepheline

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Speaker 3: flood is part of the embellished account of the Scouts

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Speaker 3: in the time of the Exodus who went in to

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Speaker 3: seen people taller than them, as well as anachem kings

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Speaker 3: tellmis Seshi and Ahiman that lived in Hebron or Kirif Arba.

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Speaker 3: Because it was known before Hebron and that they called

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Speaker 3: these an Achem the sons of giants, which is the

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Speaker 3: Hebrew word nephelem. So that's not quite accurate. That's saying

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Speaker 3: that the Anachem were nepheline and they were actually Repaim.

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Speaker 3: And we know they're Refaem because when they're listed with

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Speaker 3: other giants in the time of the Exodus and Deuteronomy two,

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Speaker 3: that it is that they're called and known as giants

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Speaker 3: like the mem and the Zamzuzim and others that are

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Speaker 3: listed in Deuteronomy two. And that goes back to the

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Speaker 3: Hebrew word refa in Refaem for poro for a tribe

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Speaker 3: of giants, just says Refayem shows up as a tribe

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Speaker 3: of giants in Genesis fourteen and the War of Giants,

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Speaker 3: and then Genesis fifteen in the land of the covenants

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Speaker 3: being given to Abraham and his descendants that go from

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Speaker 3: the Nile to the Euphrates rivers. So we have these

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Speaker 3: so my distinction is is that the Nephil lived before

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Speaker 3: a distinction in terms of the size and the power

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Speaker 3: going on in numbers thirteen thirty three, the terrified scouts

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Speaker 3: other than Joshua and Caleb, they don't want to go

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Speaker 3: onto this land to fight these hyper giants and giants,

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Speaker 3: So they're testifying to the veracity to the giants before

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Speaker 3: the flood, but embellishing it to the application there. So

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Speaker 3: these three kings are anechem. They are giants, they are massive,

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Speaker 3: the flood. Now, the word gibor describes the Nepheleine in

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Speaker 3: used about one hundred and fifty eight times in the

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Speaker 3: Old Testament, not always to describe a giant, but to

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Speaker 3: describe a giant in a lot of cases. So biblically

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Speaker 3: we get one application in Joshua sixteen, where gibour is

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Speaker 3: translated as a giant in the KGV Bible. And whether

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Speaker 3: or not that's a giant or not, we don't know.

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Speaker 3: You could accept that as an accurate translation into English

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Speaker 3: part of the land of the Covenant, you have a

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Speaker 3: originally Vowelless as well, and that you also have Gbr

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Speaker 3: these mighty warriors. So we get both applications. So you

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Speaker 3: another tribe of giants also called Guberine, and they're all

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Speaker 3: part of a assembly of giants that was called the Titanu,

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Speaker 3: which has very interesting meanings that overlaps into other kinds

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Speaker 4: All right, so let's get to the post Alluvian.

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Speaker 2: I guess is that what we refer to as the

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Speaker 2: second incursion, And then if you could sort of elaborate

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Speaker 2: on what the second incursion entails how it differs from

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Speaker 2: the initial fall of the angels.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and one of the things if people get confused

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Speaker 3: in prehistory, it's because you have a hard time understanding

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Speaker 3: when was the rain of the offspring gods and when

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Speaker 3: was the reign of the parent gods. So parent gods

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Speaker 3: for their crimes, one of them being creation of the giants,

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Speaker 3: and offspring gods took over after the flood. And so

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Speaker 3: have created giants before the flood. So bay Al and

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Speaker 3: a Nat take over after the flood, and they create

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Speaker 3: original Semitic and that's what I would call as a

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Speaker 3: second incursion, is a recreation of giants after the flood. Now, biblically,

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Speaker 3: we're not told how giants and show up after the flood.

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Speaker 3: they could have created more giants before the flood and

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Speaker 3: help comes about but biblically, and you can make that

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Speaker 3: could say in Genesis six and Genesis seven, where God

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Speaker 3: second incursion where there would have been another probably oath

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Speaker 3: in the New Testament like Jude One's six and second

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Speaker 3: in the pit prison when he was crucified. It's all

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Speaker 3: linked to the crimes of the angels before the flood,

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Speaker 3: and also included in that discussion linkages in the language

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Speaker 3: like filthy language and strange flesh that is going on

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Speaker 3: with this propriation of the giants, and it's the same

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Speaker 3: crimes that that are being equated to the crimes that

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Speaker 3: the fallen angels did before the flood. So we get

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Speaker 3: a lot of evidence that Sodom is the location for

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Speaker 3: the second incursion, and if that rings a bell with

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Speaker 3: a lot of people, that's got a pretty important biblical

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Speaker 3: sort of moral application, and with sexual crimes that were

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Speaker 3: kind of unlimited that were going on there as the

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Speaker 3: giants were ruling over the Canaanites in the Canaanite pentapolies

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Speaker 3: in the southern Dead Sea region. So we have a

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Speaker 3: likely place for the creation that is close to Mount Herman,

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Speaker 3: wasn't likely done on Mount Hermon, only the both were

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Speaker 3: sworn there. And what's interesting is is in the Anostic

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Speaker 3: versions of the creation of the giants, you have the

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Speaker 3: mora as the location of the of the creation of

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Speaker 3: giants before the flood, and Sodom again as the creation

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Speaker 3: after the flood.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's interesting. I didn't know that interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Well, there's lots of evidence per second incursion,

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Speaker 3: just as you have the Greek accounts that talks about

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Speaker 3: the angels that were killed, I mean the giants that

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Speaker 3: were killed in the in the in the flood, and

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Speaker 3: then another creation of giants after the flood.

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