WEBVTT - S1/E2: Daniela Moroz (USA Kiteboarding) 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.600 If you're listening to this podcast, we know one thing 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:06.840 for absolute certain you are a fan of women's sports. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:10.600 And there's nothing better than enjoying women's sports with community, 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.480 and no better place to find that community than The 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:17.640 Sports Bra in Portland, Oregon, the very first women's sports. 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:20.120 Bar in the world. 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Welcome 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.440 Danielle Morose to the Powerful Podcast. I am so thrilled 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:38.240 to have you here. 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.240 Oh, thank you so much for having me. 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:43.520 I'm so excited, and I can imagine that the excitement 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.160 is just getting more and more as we get closer 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.640 to the games themselves. But I want to talk about 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.960 what you just did first, because I have a feeling 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:56.080 this whole Olympian thing kind of just became real because 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:58.800 you were in New York City for the Team USA 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.360 media summit, and I do believe you got to do 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.240 some pretty cool things there. Can you bring us up 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:06.120 to speed on what it was like being there with 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:07.160 the rest of TUSA. 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:11.520 Yes, Oh my gosh, it was just such a cool experience. 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:16.520 And I think anytime you're in that kind of environment 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.280 where you're like seeing all the other athletes and you're 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:21.680 like doing all the media with them, and everyone's like 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:23.919 asking you about the Olympics and how you're feeling. It's 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.680 just like it's so i get like a little bit 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:28.960 overstimulated because I'm just like, oh my god, this is 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.679 all like happening and it's so cool and it's so exciting. 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:34.600 But it's like it makes you feel it's like so 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:38.280 unique and special too, and I if it's just it's 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:42.120 a good reminder to just be grateful for like what's happening. 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.640 And yeah, it was just a it was a really 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:48.280 cool couple of days. And I started off I was 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:52.240 there on the day of like one hundred Days to Paris, 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:55.760 and so we started off the day with we went 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.280 to the Empire State Building with a few other athletes, 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:02.560 which was super cool, and we actually got to like 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.680 flip a switch and it like switched on the lights 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:08.919 to the Empire State Building and it made them red, 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.480 white and blue, which was really cool to like support 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:14.680 Team USA and celebrate you know, one hundred days to Paris, 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:18.000 which was really cool. And it was just like that 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.000 you can like feel the energy and the vibe like 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.080 everyone is just buzzing and so excited, and it's like 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:27.560 it's just so exciting to be there and to be a. 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:28.000 Part of it. 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:31.120 And then the yeah, we got to go up to 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:34.000 the to the top of the Empire State Building, which 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.960 was super cool. See the whole city, see all the views, 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:39.480 and when you look it up online, the Empire State 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:43.000 Building has one hundred and two floors or like levels, 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:46.640 but there's a secret one hundred third floor that is 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:52.080 reserved only for I think it's like celebrities, dignitaries, and olympians. 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:54.360 So we got to go up to that one hundred 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:57.840 third floor and be like, I think it's the highest 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:02.040 point you can be in the West Hemisphere, like without 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.440 like being clipped into the building or being like harnessed in, 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.800 which is like wild. So that was like, we don't 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:12.240 have a fear of bites, right, We're good, I oh, 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:16.720 marginal Yeah, Okay. Some people were looking over like, oh 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:20.320 my god, this is like this is a lot. Yeah, 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:22.040 but it was just like it was so cool and 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.000 it's just one of those things where it's like it 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.000 just makes you feel so special and like unique, like 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.479 being part of that team and being like an Olympian. 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:32.560 So yeah, so it was just so cool. And you 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:34.960 also just get to meet so many cool athletes along 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.680 the way and share share stories with each other and 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:39.800 you always find that like you can just relate on 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:43.040 so many levels. And then yeah, so that was kind 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:44.960 of like the morning part, which was really cool. And 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.120 then the rest of the day was just doing a 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.400 bunch of different media interviews and shoots and. 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.160 Yeah, and like talking to press and all the things. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.320 So yeah, it was it was a very long day, 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:58.839 but it's one of those days where I was like, 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:00.880 oh my god, like the this is all just so 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:02.800 cool and I can't believe it for real. 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.719 So was there an Olympian that you met that you 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.479 got starstruck by at all? Or do Olympians not get 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:10.520 startruck with each other? 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.040 No, definitely. 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:18.600 I So i'd like kind of passed, like I've seen 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.599 Jessica Long in passing a little bit, Like I think 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:26.480 she was in la at the NBC Universal Studios shoot 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:30.040 on like the same day or like yeah, or maybe 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.200 slightly different day, but I like overlapped with her at 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:33.919 some point, so i'd like seen her in passing, but 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.160 I never actually met her. But this time I got 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.440 to like spend a lot of the day with her actually, 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:40.839 and that was just like so cool and she was 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.400 so nice and just like you just like meet these 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:46.760 people and they're just such incredible human beings and you realize, 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.240 like you look at them and they're these like really 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.440 bad ass athletes, but then you talk to them, it 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:54.839 feels like you're just like talking to another person. It's 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.080 like it's easy to forget that they're just like people 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:00.560 just like me. So yeah, so it was just super cool. 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.720 That's awesome. So I want to get into what you 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.680 are going to be doing in Paris, because, like I mentioned, 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.640 your sport a brand new one to the Olympics, and 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:14.080 this Olympics is obviously also really special because it is 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.280 the first time in Olympic history that there is an 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:20.680 equal amount of representation and participation between men and women. 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:25.680 And so walk me through. Describe your sport to somebody 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:28.039 who maybe just has no idea what it is. 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:34.000 Yeah, So my discipline is called Formula Kite and it's 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:37.920 one of the ten Olympics sailing classes that is at 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:41.799 the Olympics, and it's racing. So it's just like sailing 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:45.080 and that we're going around, we're like doing laps around 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.640 buoys out on the water and whoever crossed the finish 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:52.520 line first wins. And in like kite surfing specifically, we're 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:56.120 on a board that's like pretty similar to a surfboard 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.600 and then it has a hydrofoil on it, and the 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:02.120 hydrofoil is what allows to like fly a couple feet 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.719 over the water, and it's actually what makes us the 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:08.279 fastest summer Olympic sport, which is really cool. So we're 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.240 going around the course. We'll be going at speeds like 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:14.679 twenty five miles per hour upwind or against the wind, 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.600 and then downwind or with the wind, we're going like 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:20.320 forty to forty five miles per hour. So it's super fast, 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.800 and it's really tight, close racing, a lot of like 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:25.240 action in the corners, and. 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:27.960 It's just it's super exciting to watch. 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:31.560 And we're flying around getting like completely wind powered by 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:33.960 a large kite that is attached to us. 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.400 So yeah, so that's kind of how kiting is. 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:40.640 We compete for five days, so it's a pretty long competition. 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.520 We do like three five races a day for the 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.680 first four days, and then after that the top ten 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.880 go into the like metal series on the final day 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.680 and that's all like how the metals play out. 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:57.720 So yeah, so I've heard you before describe your sport 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:01.880 as playing chess while running a marior. But I'm gonna 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:05.720 be honest with you, Chess and marathon are not sports 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:09.960 that I view as high risk typically because that's just 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:12.400 like right, like it's not that it's not hard, but 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:14.960 it's that they're not as high What you just described 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.880 to me feels more of like we're trying to race 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:22.320 a race car that I'm actually holding on to the 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:26.240 back of while competing against like ten other women in 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:27.400 the water at the same time. 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.880 Yeah, So I mean I like to make that marathon 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:35.120 and chess comparison because not only are you like pushing 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.760 super hard physically and like trying to go really fast 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.960 around around the race course, and you're just like pushing 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.160 super hard and trying to go as fast as you can, 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:47.280 but you're also like you need to be looking around 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:51.040 and like seeing where your competitors are, and you're kind 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.960 of playing this chess game of like the strategy and 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:57.280 tactics because what might be like I'll say, like the 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:00.000 shortest way around the course might not be the fast 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:02.640 and so you have to be paying attention to like 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:06.320 changing conditions, Like if there's more wind on one side 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.679 of the course than the other, then that's gonna make 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.080 you faster. You have to be paying to paying attention 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.920 to like current because that'll make you go faster on. 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:14.680 One side or another. 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.360 Or you have a lot of like these tactical moves 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.840 that you'll do if you're like coming up to one 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.520 mark then figuring out like how to make that play 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:26.240 of like passing someone around you. So there's a lot 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.880 of these, Like there's literally this chess game going on. 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.400 So not only are you like pushing super hard and 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.319 on the edge and going super fast, but you're also 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.720 like you need to be looking around and like making 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:42.560 really strategic, highly tactical decisions at a really fast rate. 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:45.000 So yeah, so it's intense. 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:49.040 So we'll add we'll add marathon, but like with turbo 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.880 boosters on your shoes, yeah, because the wind is like 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.640 also you're propelling, like you're going against mother nature as well, 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.760 which is just there's so many fascinating aspects of your 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.959 sport that we ca get into. But before we get 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.440 into that, I want to talk about just how you 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.520 got into this sport growing up in the Bay area 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:12.280 give us an idea of how common it is to 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:16.839 become sort of involved in the sailing, kiteboarding, kite surfing world. 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:20.120 Yeah, so I always have to start with my parents 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.080 because they're the ones that got me into the sport. 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.360 And they both are originally from former. 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:30.439 Czechoslovakia and they actually escaped the regime in the early 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:34.360 eighties and came to America. My dad literally escaped the 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.720 Eastern Block by cross country skiing across the mountains into 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:41.320 Austria and then getting asylum to the US. So they're like, 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:45.240 they came from really tough times and they came they 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:48.480 had to completely leave their lives and they chose to, 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.040 you know, escape to America, to the land of opportunity 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:56.000 and to be able to experience freedom. And funny enough, 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:59.840 they met while learning to windsurf in the Berkeley Marina 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.760 in the San Francisco Bay, So they met learning to windsurf. 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.439 So then when I was born, I grew up around windsurfing. 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:11.480 Eventually my dad switched over to kiting in like two 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:13.240 thousand and five, two thousand and six, so when I 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:16.040 was like four or five years old, and then eventually 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:18.720 once I was kind of big enough and old enough 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.679 to learn like a water sport, I really wanted to 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:25.240 learn to kite, and so my parents were always super supportive. 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.679 And I was doing a ton of other sports growing 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.600 up and was super competitive, and they were really supportive 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.000 always in no matter what sport I wanted to try 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.840 or activity I wanted to do, Like they drove me 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:39.320 to all my swim practices and to tennis and to 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.280 dance and tell everything, and so then when I wanted 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.439 to learn to kite, they got me lessons and they 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.920 got me the equipment at the beginning, and as soon 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:50.720 as I got the opportunity to try competing and kiting, 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.880 me always being the girl that wanted to beat all 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.800 the boys, I jumped on it. And there was a 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:01.320 really strong community of kaite racers in the San Francisco 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.720 Bay area at the time, and I remember when I 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.680 was just learning to race, the current world champions were 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.400 both from San Francisco, and so it was so cool 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.719 because I could go out racing over the summer and 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:14.880 be on the same start line as the current world 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.840 champions and be racing around the course with them, and 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:21.439 I think especially being able to see like Erica Heineken, 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.239 it was this sibling duo was Johnny and Erica Heineken, 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.240 And for me, especially being able to see Erica like 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.760 go out there and just like shred and beat the boys, 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:34.440 that was so inspiring for me, and I remember I 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.080 wanted to be just like that, and being able to 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:42.280 actually see that was so huge, and especially like being 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:45.040 in a male dominated sport and also being one of 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:48.360 the youngest where I was competing as mostly men that 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:52.800 were twice my age at that point, So I actually, like, 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.360 I was just so inspired. I just wanted to push 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.280 hard and go fast on the water, and I was 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:00.960 so hooked on the racing, and so I started racing 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.840 when I was like thirteen or so, and then soon 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.920 enough I realized I was like pretty decent at it, 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.240 and it was beating a lot of the boys. I 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:12.400 was getting pretty good. And then yeah, won my first 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.160 world championship at fifteen. 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.280 Yeah, because I believe you earn't the nickname Erica two 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:20.679 point zero in those early years. Yeah, right, So walk 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.680 me through how you mentioned being in a male dominated 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.400 sport and you were racing against a lot of the 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.160 men in the San Francisco Bay area at the like 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:33.520 wopping age of twelve, thirteen fourteen. Right, So how did 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:39.080 having just that one female mentor impact your journey in 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:39.920 this sport? 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:44.040 I mean, honestly, like if I didn't have anyone to 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:47.720 look up to, I think things would have been very, 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:51.560 very different. And I think I was very intrinsically and 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:55.240 just like naturally motivated, and I was very driven. So 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:58.520 I do think I could have like kind of gotten 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:00.720 to where I got to. I don't think it would 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:05.160 have happened nearly as quickly as it did. Yeah, And 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.640 it just like even for me now, I do feel 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.800 like I'm in a position where I want those like 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.000 that next generation of young girls to be able to 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:15.160 see me and go like, oh, I can do that too. 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.200 And I think I was also I was in a 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:22.280 very like lucky situation in a way because even though 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:27.160 I was racing against mostly men, everyone was always so supportive. Actually, 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.520 I think in kiting it's pretty unique because even just 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:33.160 to like get out on the water, like you need 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.400 someone to launch your kite and land your kite, and 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:37.840 like you need that kind of sense of community, and 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.120 I think that is like more so in kiting than 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:44.240 almost any other sport because you're like you're all going 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:45.840 out on the water and you kind of look out 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.000 for each other and you make sure everyone gets back 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:51.280 in and there's a real sense of like community there. 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:56.040 So when I was going out there, you know, twelve 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.600 thirteen years old, all the guys were like really supportive 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:01.520 and they were like really cheering me on, and they 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.160 were like, oh, like we need to beat Danielle. But 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.520 like but they were motivating me and they were helping me. 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.400 And I think when I was at that age, I 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:10.520 didn't really realize the significance of that because I was 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.280 just like, yeah, like, oh, should I tell dead, Like 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.400 I was just like having a grand old time. But 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.520 now as I've gotten older, I'm just like, oh my god, 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.520 it is like that's not a normal thing really, And 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.760 I think I do think times are changing and it 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:27.000 is becoming more and more normal now, but that that 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:31.000 was like not totally normal at the time. And so 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.120 it makes me, Yeah, it makes me like really reflective 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:34.760 of that in a way that I was really lucky 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:36.440 to be in such a supportive community. 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:37.640 And and even. 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.840 Now as I've like dabbled in a little bit of 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:43.240 sailing and been more exposed to like some of those 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:47.320 more traditional kind of yeah, that like more traditional culture 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.640 of like how sailing can be. It's it's very different 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.040 and it's and sailing is still very much so a 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:56.080 boys club, but I do see it like changing now. 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:59.600 So it's been Yeah, just like being able to see 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:03.600 a woman doing what I wanted to do was pivotal. 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.080 So you talk about having that one female mentor, and 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:10.000 now you are looking to become that for the next 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:16.280 generation of women in the sailing disciplines classes, sailing classes, yeah, 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:20.720 kiteboarding in particular. But with that, I imagine comes a 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:24.120 lot of pressure because you're not just carrying your own 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.960 hopes and dreams, maybe that of your parents, who I 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.360 know didn't push you, but are probably super stoked that 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.360 you're following in their footsteps to some extent. And now 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.840 you're talking about as you come into Paris you are 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:39.360 the first but hopefully sort of opening the floodgates for 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:43.560 the next and you're only in your early twenties. How 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:49.080 have you balanced the physical requirements of your sport along 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:53.160 with all of this pressure, either spoken or felt or 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:58.400 just sort of around as you've gone through this qualification process. 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:00.720 Honestly, I like. 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:05.480 I just anytime I'm like at the beach, and I'm 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:09.359 I'm getting ready to go training and anytime there's some 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.280 like young kids around that are getting into kiding, like 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.840 it just it makes me so happy and it makes 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:19.399 me just so excited to see that next generation getting 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.919 excited about the sport that I love so much. So 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:25.520 I think for me, it's just being able to share 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.520 my sport and the thing that I'm like so passionate 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.000 about and the thing that I love so much with 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.679 the rest of the world, and especially now with the Olympics, 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.240 like it's really just growing so much and with such 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:40.040 a big audience. Like there are so few sports I 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:43.400 think that give you that same like appreciation for nature 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:47.040 and connection to nature and like being out in the elements, 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:51.960 and also the responsibility of maintaining equipment and being super 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:55.239 self dependent and like just being able to manage all 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:57.760 of these things. I think, like sailing is such a 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.280 unique sport and not only does it teach you like 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.800 all of these kind of you know, like self growth things, 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.440 but it teaches you so much about the world and 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:09.520 like physics, and like I've just learned so much doing it. 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:13.680 I don't I almost like don't feel that much pressure 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:17.400 in that sense because I'm just like excited to see 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.720 my sport getting shared, and I definitely feel like pressure 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:22.920 in other ways, And I think that there's a lot 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:26.160 of pressure more from the side of like I think 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:30.680 in recent years, American sailing has really been in decline, 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:34.600 and just recently in Tokyo, we were surpassed by Great 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:38.880 Britain that became like the most successful sailing nation, and 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.720 we were a sailing powerhouse like in the eighties and 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.040 nineties and early two thousands, and now that's kind of 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.040 faded out. So if anything, I'm feeling a lot more 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:50.480 pressure from kind of like being that next generation that 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:54.840 hopefully brings back some of that power into the country 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:55.959 in the sport of sailing. 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.000 So yeah, but there's a lot. 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:03.639 Well because in Tokyo, right, the best US sailing finish 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:07.080 was ninth, and so you would be, as all of 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.879 you are going for gold, the first US sailor to 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:12.920 win a gold since like two thousand and eight, I think, 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:17.000 which was when kiting was not even an Olympic sport, right, 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.240 And so the next sort of thing I want to 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:22.720 dive into is for you. You started this actually probably 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:25.440 really in the womb, because your mother was out there 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:27.760 on the water in the San Francisco Bay while she 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:30.760 was pregnant with you, which is absolutely unreal. And I 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:32.880 want to talk about your mom in a little bit. 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:36.439 But one of the things that I find so fascinating is, 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.520 obviously it's so exciting to have a new sport in 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:42.480 the Olympics, but you've been doing this for longer than 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.840 this sport was in the option of becoming in the Olympics, 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:48.160 because you'd already had a few world titles under your 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:50.440 belt by the time in twenty twenty one the IOC 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:53.960 approved kiteboarding for the twenty twenty four Games. How have 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.440 you had to adjust your approach to the sport once 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:58.719 it became an Olympic option. 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:03.040 Yeah, really cool to have been like in the sport 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:05.400 and involved in the sport for so long and kind 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:10.640 of since the beginning. Like I started foiling like as 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:13.040 soon as everyone else started foiling, and that's kind of 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:16.119 when I was starting to race. So I think I 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:19.080 came in at like such a good time and it's 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:22.119 been so cool to see so much of that development 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:26.359 over the years. And even though the decision came like 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:28.959 later in twenty twenty one, we kind of knew, like 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:31.920 by the end of twenty eighteen that we were pretty 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:35.480 certain it was gonna happen. And yeah, by then I'd 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:37.359 won three world championships. 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:39.000 I was like finishing up. 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.919 I think I was, let's see twenty eighteen, I was 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:46.159 starting my senior year of high school and. 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:49.600 Had three world titles before you finished high school. It's fine. 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:54.159 Yeah, it was definitely on my radar, I think. And 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:56.679 I'd always dreamed of being a professional athlete, and I 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.600 grew up watching the Olympics, so it was Olympic says, 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:02.960 something I've always dreamed about. So it was really surreal, 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:06.320 like kind of in those early years where like the 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:09.240 rumors were the rumors were going around already, like as 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:13.080 early as twenty sixteen, there was chat about like even 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:15.399 going in for twenty twenty, and then that didn't end 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:18.280 up happening. But then pretty much by twenty eighteen, we 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:21.919 were like, Okay, we're pretty sure, like it's happening, and 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.360 I was just like, yeah, let's do it. Like I've 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:30.240 been that's a dream. But I think the biggest thing 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:33.960 was just like how much more professional it became, and 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:38.919 just seeing how much like resources the different countries and 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:43.879 federations put into their teams and building up squads. I 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:47.000 think it's tough in sailing because like for so many reasons, 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.359 but one because it's such a I mean, it's an 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:53.000 expensive sport, but it's also like it requires a lot 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:56.600 of traveling and it requires you to be alone a lot. 0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:59.920 And it's also only one athlete or team per country 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:03.439 can go, So even if you have a training like 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:06.359 a domestic training group, only one of you can go 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:08.760 in the end, and I think that makes it really tough. 0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:13.000 So those countries that have more resources are able to 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:16.200 pay their athletes better so that they can keep training 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:18.760 as a group all the way up until the Olympics, 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:22.080 whereas in the US, you know, the funding is tough. 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:24.440 Like I'm not going to sugarcoat it, like it's really tough. 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:28.000 And so seeing over the years, like it was tough 0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:32.520 kind of seeing how good my results were and to 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:35.440 see like all these other countries just getting so much 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:39.240 more support and resources and me feeling like really alone 0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:42.560 in a way, and me feeling really like how am 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.240 I even supposed to compete against this? Like how do 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:48.960 I compete against these resources? And so that part was 0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:52.080 definitely tough, and it was weird because over the years, 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:56.520 like I won literally everything for six years, and at 0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:58.879 the end of that, I could really I could feel 0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:01.320 everyone catching up, and I was like, okay, like I 0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:03.520 know it's gonna happen, and I'm already accepting that. I 0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:05.680 know people are going to catch up, like it's only 0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:09.120 a matter of time. But that actually it made it 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:12.040 really hard to figure out, like because I was so 0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:14.760 far ahead in some ways and I was so much faster, 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:17.160 it kind of made it hard to like figure out 0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:19.560 what to even work on and how to improve. And 0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:22.080 of course there's always like you can always improve like 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:24.120 whatever you're doing, but it was hard to figure out 0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:26.399 how to manage my time as best as possible and 0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:29.159 how to be most efficient with that. And it's lonely 0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:31.320 at the top, and I definitely felt a little bit 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:35.000 like distance from a lot of the fleet because you know, 0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:38.640 I was literally just winning everything, and over the years 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:40.879 I thought a bit distant from you know, people that 0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:43.760 I thought were my friends. So yeah, so it's been 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:46.840 really interesting to go through that phase change of just 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:50.320 like being another sport to like being an Olympic sport. 0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:54.960 But I've learned so much and never in my wildest dreams. 0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:57.159 Could I have imagined I'd be where I am today, 0:23:57.240 --> 0:23:57.800 So I'd. 0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:00.040 Always hoped for it, but I I don't know, I 0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.320 dreaming about it, but I'm just like, wow, these are 0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:08.359 so epic and so yeah, it's been really an incredible experience. 0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:15.320 Well, and I think you touched on something that is 0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:19.080 so relatable, right, especially for people who are really career 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:22.760 oriented and driven in sort of that way where you 0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:25.880 talked about it's lonely at the top, but it's also 0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.359 really lonely when you're the one blazing the trail, because 0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:32.920 that's what you're doing, right, Like, you're not just the 0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:36.000 best in your sport, you are one of the first 0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:39.160 in your sport to you are the first in your 0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:42.840 sport to be competing as an Olympian, and you're doing 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:45.600 all of this at the ages of like eighteen to 0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:48.760 twenty three, when a lot of your peers are in 0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:50.879 college and figuring out what they want to do with 0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:54.399 their lives. How have you gotten through that personally? Like 0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:58.160 what have you had to do to combat that loneliness 0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:01.199 and sort of lean on the peace in your circle? 0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:01.960 What have you had to do? 0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:04.960 Yeah, I think it's I mean, it's just taken a 0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:06.040 lot of time. 0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:07.320 And I've always been. 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:12.280 A pretty like self reflective and introspective person, and so 0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:15.240 I feel like I'm pretty good at like picking up 0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:17.800 on how I'm feeling, and I'm pretty like self aware 0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:20.720 of how certain things will affect me. And I've gotten 0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.439 like more and more conscious of that over time. So 0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:26.560 even things like the last few years, I've spent like 0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:28.880 six months of the year in Europe, and I would 0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:31.639 only spend two weeks at home the entire year. So 0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:34.640 I think the most important part has just been like 0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:37.920 making myself feel more at home as I'm traveling or 0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:42.040 wherever I am training or racing, and so doing even 0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:45.800 small things like I have my close circle of friends, 0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:50.360 and I'm very particular about who I let into that circle, 0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:54.199 and until you like can really prove yourself to me, 0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:56.480 like I'm just not going to let you into that 0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:59.760 circle because I give out really good energy and if 0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:02.080 you're not giving out that same energy to me, like 0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:05.879 I'm gonna put up my my barricade, you know. And 0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:09.200 so I've gotten really particular about like who I choose 0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:11.880 to spend my time with, and I have my really 0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:15.840 close circle of like friends and mentors, and like my 0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:20.000 team of my coach and my equipment technician and my 0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:22.639 sports psych and my nutrition is like it takes a village, 0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:25.199 and I have like that tight group of people that 0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:26.480 I work with and. 0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:29.159 That I lean on. But you can get pulled in 0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:29.720 a lot of. 0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:32.439 Different directions on the way, but there's always like just 0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.000 some small things you can do. Now, even like I 0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:37.880 used to always kind of stay by myself because I'm 0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:40.760 an only child and I was kind of used to 0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:44.159 like being pretty independent growing up. So I used to 0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:46.920 just stay by myself because I liked having my space 0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:49.920 and I liked, I don't know, just having my quiet 0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:53.480 mornings by myself and yeah, just like doing my own thing. 0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:57.240 But after like kind of years of doing that, I 0:26:57.280 --> 0:26:59.800 was like, I don't know, sometimes I would have not 0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:02.040 a great regatta, not a great day of racing. I 0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:05.160 just come home and like be in the silence with 0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:06.480 my thoughts, and I'd be like. 0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:11.000 I like, there's nothing scarier than after a bad day 0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:14.280 being alone with your thoughts. That's like that and that is. 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:19.120 Yeah, And that was the thing I actually was horrible at, 0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:24.919 like disconnecting. I was like constantly working and constantly like 0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:28.159 being switched on and I think that's like good in 0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:30.360 some ways, Like I think that can take you really far, 0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:32.280 but once you get to a certain point, you need 0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:35.040 to be able to disconnect. So I found that like 0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:38.800 being by myself wasn't helping me disconnect. So now I 0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.720 always try to stay like with a couple people and 0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:44.679 we like take turns cooking, and we try to like 0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:47.919 watch movies and we play Mario Kart and like you know, 0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:51.000 we we have our ways to disconnect. But yeah, it's 0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.080 it's tough, but I think you kind of learn over 0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:54.879 time what works for you. And that's thing, like you 0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:57.760 just what works for someone else might not work for you, 0:27:57.800 --> 0:27:59.359 so you kind of have to figure out what works 0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:01.840 for you. And it also like it changes over time. 0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:04.040 Like for many years, like I was super happy saying 0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:06.560 by myself and that was fine, and then eventually I 0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:08.400 got to point I was like, I don't know if 0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:10.560 I don't know if I like this. It's just like 0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:12.600 you kind of learn to be aware of those things 0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.080 and you learn what works for you well. 0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.280 And I think it's it's something that you were forced 0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.960 to learn, right, because I think when you are at 0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:21.639 the top, I need I know for me, I do 0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:25.040 a lot of traveling for work, and I absolutely love it. 0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:28.080 And also I've had to go through that same process 0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:31.479 of like, Okay, what fills me up when my support 0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:34.639 system isn't necessarily right there, or when I've had a 0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:35.960 bad day in the office and I have to go 0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:37.919 back to a quiet hotel room, Like what do I 0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:41.120 need to do to disconnect? And I think the interesting 0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.520 thing about sort of what you do for a living, 0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:46.200 and certainly what I do as an escape is getting 0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:48.640 out in nature, right is like that to me is 0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:52.160 always the most grounding thing to come back to. Is 0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.400 like I don't care if it's a walk, I don't 0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:56.800 care if it's staring at a tree. Ideally it's taking 0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.400 some sort of dip in a body of water, right, 0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:02.520 Like I'm big fan of polar plunges, big fan of 0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:06.480 waterfalls and the ocean and like rivers and whatever that is. 0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:09.320 And so I think that's a big part of I 0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.720 don't know, I don't even want to say, like growing up, 0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:14.560 but it feels like is as you find your place 0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:17.120 in this world, you also have to find your place 0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.680 within the world you create, if that makes sense. So 0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:22.680 I feel like that's sort of what you're describing and 0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:25.320 something that, like I said, even those of us who 0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:27.480 are not going to become the first woman to kypeboard 0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.760 in the Olympics, like, that's something that we all have 0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:31.640 to figure out. And it's cool that you've figured it 0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:34.880 out sort of as you've approached this. And one of 0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:37.520 the things that I was so grateful for just as 0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.600 I was learning your story is how willing you are 0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.680 to be vulnerable about the hard parts of your story, 0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:46.280 because I think there's so many exciting things right, Like 0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:48.560 you are an Olympian, right, and like you are going 0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.600 to be a favorite for the gold medal this summer, 0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:54.000 and also you're kind of the CEO of a really 0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:57.480 big business, which is yourself and fundraising and trying to 0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:00.240 make sure that you have everything necessary to succeed at 0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:03.040 your sport. And it sounds like as you were getting 0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:05.520 ready for Paris, all of that pressure, all of that 0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:08.600 sort of weight came to a head right before you 0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:12.680 were actually trying to kind of officially qualify for Paris. 0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:16.960 So walk me through what happened before Worlds last year 0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:18.920 and how you managed to navigate it. 0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.520 Yeah, So I have to start like a little bit 0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:25.520 further back because I think things already started brewing kind 0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:29.719 of like the winter twenty twenty two twenty three, and 0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.800 I'd had I had a really like a pretty solid 0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:36.320 twenty twenty two season, Like I was really happy with 0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:39.640 my mindset and how I'd learned over the year, and 0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:43.440 I'd won my sixth World Championship, and I was really stoked, 0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:45.800 like with how the year went. And even though I 0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:49.240 didn't like win everything that year and it wasn't exactly 0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.360 like the years before, I was so proud of how 0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:54.520 even though I'd gotten beat a few times, and even 0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:56.920 though I wasn't like quite where I wanted to be, 0:30:57.080 --> 0:31:00.640 over the summer, I kept fighting and I like really 0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:02.280 came back at the end of the year. 0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:05.560 For the World Championships. It was like such a great. 0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:07.360 Year and I was super happy with it. 0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:08.920 Took some time off at the end of the. 0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:11.440 Year, and then kind of when I got back to 0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:14.840 training over the winter, I think I got back to training. 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:19.040 Like in November of twenty two, right, Yeah, yeah, did. 0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:19.760 Take that much time. 0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:22.240 We had our World in middle of October in twenty 0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.320 twenty two, and I got back to training in November. 0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:28.000 But I do know things just like felt a bit weird. 0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.200 And I was training a little bit in Florida. I 0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:33.760 was like in Miami and in Clearwater a little bit 0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:37.720 in like December and January, and I felt really tired 0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:40.600 all the time, and I really wasn't enjoying the training 0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:43.240 that much, and I was really starting to like force 0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:44.760 myself to go on the water. 0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:47.400 And I was like, that's a bit weird, but it's okay, 0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:47.920 Like I just. 0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:49.680 Need to push through a little bit more like through 0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:52.760 the winter and I'll be fine. And then I did 0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:57.240 a training camp in February and March in Mexico in Lovontana, 0:31:57.360 --> 0:32:01.360 like one of my favorite places, and there things definitely 0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:05.840 started feeling pretty bad, but I just like shoved it down, 0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:09.840 like fully shoved it down, fully ignored it, and I 0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.800 was like I'm fine, Like I'm fine, yeah, and. 0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:15.080 We know that's a really healthy way of dealing with 0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:17.280 all of our emotions. It's perfect, it's good, this is 0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:17.800 going well. 0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:19.840 It's fine, everything's fine. 0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:23.160 But I was not excited about my training. I didn't 0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:25.400 want to go on the water, and it started feeling 0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:27.800 really weird because I was like, this is what I 0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.120 need to be doing right now, Like I'm trying to 0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.200 qualify for the Olympics. This is what I should be 0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.520 doing and what I need to be doing. And even 0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:37.400 I remember doing sessions with my sports psychologists and the 0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:41.000 language that I had started using was so different from 0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:43.880 the year before. And kept saying like, oh, I need 0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:45.440 to do this, like I need to go on the 0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:47.160 water to do this and this and this, and I 0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:49.880 was like trying to check all these boxes rather than 0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:53.040 being like, Oh, I want to go work on this 0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:56.120 or I want to actually like try to get better 0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:59.680 at this. And so I started I think I started 0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.760 seeing kind of these like flashing warning signs, but I 0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:06.080 just completely ignored them, like ignoring the check engine light 0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:08.600 on your car, like I forgot about it, I shoved 0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:12.440 it down, I ignored it. Then the kind of spring 0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.760 racing season came around and I had like a bit 0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:19.320 of a shocker, like the first event, like finished off 0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.320 the podium for my first time ever in my career, 0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:26.240 felt really really tired for that first like block I 0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:29.360 had in the spring in Europe, and then kind of 0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:31.400 as we moved into the summer and as we moved 0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:36.040 into like training in Marseille at the Olympic venue and 0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:38.520 getting ready for our Olympic test event, which was like 0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:41.480 the first kind of big event for my like domestic 0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:47.200 selection trials. I started feeling like really really horrible, and 0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:49.959 I remember like I didn't want to go training. The 0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:52.760 only thing that was getting me out of bed and 0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:55.440 like out on the water was just knowing that, like 0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:57.640 my coach was there to help me, and I had 0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:00.000 training partners there, and I kept trying to find these 0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:04.560 like external sources of motivation, and I kept thinking like, oh, 0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:07.200 if I have like these really good training partners, I'm 0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:08.440 gonna want to go. 0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:08.759 On the water. 0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:11.279 Or once I'm training like at the Olympic venue, then 0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:12.759 I'm gonna want to go on the water. But things 0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:15.439 just kept forcing myself to go on the water when 0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:18.399 I like deep down really didn't want to. I kind 0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:22.080 of like survived the test event, and I remember I 0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:25.520 was just like grinding myself so hard because I was like, hmm, 0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:28.480 I was like so horrible to myself in a way, 0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:31.240 and I would like, it's funny how you'll say things 0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:34.080 to yourself and you're just like I would never say 0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:36.600 this to another person, Like how can I say. 0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:37.120 That to myself? 0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:38.799 And I realize this now, but at the time, I 0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:40.759 was just like, yeah, like I'm tough, Like I'm being 0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:41.480 tough on myself. 0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:42.640 That's what you're supposed to do. 0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.560 As an athlete, Like you're tough and invincible, and like 0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:48.719 that's what you have to portray. And so I was 0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:50.640 just like, yeah, we just have to keep grinding, and 0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:53.080 like I should feel a little bit burnt out right now, 0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:55.239 because like I need to qualify for the Olympics. So 0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:58.839 I kept like justifying it in that way, just kept 0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:03.560 like shoving it down and on and down, and then eventually, 0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:07.040 like I finished third at the Olympic test event, which 0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:09.719 was what I needed to do to qualify or at 0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:13.080 least get the like country selection, and then the second 0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:16.440 part was actually qualifying the country at the World Championships, 0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:18.200 which were like a month later. 0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:20.719 So I remember like taking a. 0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:23.760 Breath after the testament and like, okay, we've checked one box, 0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:25.439 Like now I just have to do this one last 0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:25.799 thing and. 0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:26.840 Then I can take a break. 0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:30.480 Then I remember getting to So we had our twenty 0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:35.120 twenty three World Championships in the Hague in the Netherlands, 0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:38.840 and I remember getting there and I like did not 0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:40.960 want to go on the water at all, And I 0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:44.840 remember there was like a really bad storm system the 0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:46.840 first days I got there, and I think for like 0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:48.719 the first four or five days, we couldn't even go 0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:50.560 on the water because it was raining all the time 0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:52.759 and super stormy and like it was really just like 0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:53.880 sketchy conditions. 0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:55.399 I remember being like. 0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:57.719 Oh, thank god, I don't have to go on the water, Like, 0:35:57.800 --> 0:35:59.799 thank god the weather is bad and I don't have 0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:01.200 to go training or anything. 0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.319 That felt so horrible to say, because I was like, 0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:07.000 I love the sport, Why do I feel like this? 0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:09.160 Like why is this happening to me? 0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:13.200 And then eventually I had like a few training sessions 0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:15.440 and I remember showing up to the beach and it 0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:19.160 was taking like everything in me not to cry before 0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:21.359 going on the water, and like while putting my wet 0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:23.799 sued on, I was almost like shaking because I just 0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.960 like I felt so horrible and so awful, and I 0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:28.800 was like, this isn't normal, This is not how I 0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:29.480 should feel. 0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:32.359 I should love doing this. Why am I not loving it? 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.839 And then eventually things just like exploded, and I think 0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:38.160 like two or three days before we started racing out 0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:41.080 the World Championship, I just like I couldn't hold it 0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:44.040 in anymore on the beach, and I was like about 0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:46.120 to start changing and putting my wet suit on, and 0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.360 I called my coach who was already on the water 0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.399 like ready for our training session, and I was like. 0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:54.200 Chris, like I don't think I should go training. 0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:57.279 Today, Like I just fully lost it, and I was 0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:00.080 like I just I can't do it, and so and 0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.680 then I just kind of like took those few days off. 0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.680 I didn't show up to the beach for those three days, 0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:07.799 and I was like, I need to get out of here, 0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:10.319 like be away from the beach and away from all 0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:13.400 the people and all the chaos. And for me, like 0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:15.600 all I needed to do for that World was. 0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:18.440 Just to I needed a top eight basically, and I 0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:19.719 was like that's very manageable. 0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:20.560 I know I can do that. 0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:22.480 So I was like, okay, I just have to like 0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:25.560 get through this and qualify and get it done. It 0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:27.919 was horrible even now I get emotional thinking about because 0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:29.960 I was just like, oh my god, what a tough time. 0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:30.960 Like it was so brutal. 0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:36.160 So yeah, yeah, but then thankfully, like after the World, 0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:38.799 I could take a really big break and like I 0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:39.440 did the job. 0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:42.200 I got fifth. Then like didn't win the World TV 0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:43.439 tips for the first time ever. 0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:47.319 That was like something to think about, and there was 0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:49.720 like all this stuff going on, but I was like, hey. 0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:50.680 I got the job done. 0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:53.799 Now I can like step away for a little bit 0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:57.280 and I can like focus on other types of training, 0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:00.400 focus on my mental health, focus on nutrition, and go 0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:03.359 to the gym and like just get away from the 0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:04.560 water for a little bit. 0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:07.000 So pretty much between like. 0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:13.080 Since the World Championships and January, I like didn't kite 0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:16.759 at all, and then I came back in January and 0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:21.440 I was like buzzing, like I was so excited. So yeah, 0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:25.280 so that was like crazy crazy twenty twenty three. 0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:29.200 Yeah, And it's I can imagine the pressure right where 0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.120 it's not just like, oh I should want to do this. 0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.359 I should. I've loved this sport for so long, but 0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.120 it's like it's not just another year. It's an Olympic 0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:38.879 qualifying year for the first time. And so to have 0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:43.960 all those emotions, I cannot imagine how overwhelming that must 0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:47.400 have felt. And I'm so proud of you for figuring 0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:50.840 out what you needed to do, even in those small ways, 0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:53.520 right because I think again, like, no matter the job 0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.879 you're talking about, I think everybody experiences burnout, and it's 0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:59.920 something that we as a society are just sort of 0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:04.120 learning to talk about, much less how to address. And 0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:07.879 you figured out in the moments, in those tiny ones, right, 0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:10.480 like what you were and weren't able to do, Like 0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:14.279 I cannot do this training session, so I can't not 0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:16.920 do the whole thing, but like I know, I cannot 0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:19.000 do this training session, and I'm going to take that 0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:22.320 tiny breath and it's like getting just like a little 0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:25.520 bit of air before I can finally get a deep 0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:28.000 breath when this is over. So it's like you managed 0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:31.640 to cope in the moment and then find the space afterwards. 0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:34.120 Because I think the other thing, right is like when 0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:36.800 you're feeling all that pressure, it's so easy to forget 0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:39.359 how terrible it was in the moment, right, Like I'm 0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:42.440 sure after worlds and after you qualified, you're like, okay, 0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:44.400 but I did it, so like maybe I don't actually 0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:46.480 need to address this, Like maybe that check engine light 0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:49.359 isn't actually at the point yet. So it's like you 0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:53.400 justify everything that you went through, but you manage to 0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:55.200 get through it, and then you manage to take the 0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:57.960 time to address the root of the issue. And I 0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.799 think it's so crazy hearing everything that you went through 0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:03.920 and then talking to you now because you're radiant, like 0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:07.279 you're so excited for Paris and for this journey and 0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:09.520 excited to represent your sport and get on the water. 0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:13.719 But it took that low, that extreme rock bottom for 0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:14.600 you to get there. 0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:18.680 It feels like, yeah, it really did. And I remember 0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:23.960 like it had turned into months of like I would 0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:26.360 wake up in the morning and the first thing I 0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:28.600 would think is like I don't want to be here. 0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:30.400 I don't want to go on the water today. 0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:32.160 I don't want to put my wet suit on, like 0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:35.719 the first thing in the morning, like without even like 0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:37.760 being stimulated by anything. 0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:39.239 And so I'm like. 0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:41.640 Really proud of myself now because to go from that 0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:45.000 last year to how I am now, where like I 0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:48.719 am so excited about my training right now, Like I 0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:51.520 can't wait to go training tomorrow and I can't wait 0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:54.200 to race, Like we start racing in a couple of days, 0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:56.120 Like I can't wait to start racing. And it's not 0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:59.000 even just the thought of like competition and the thought 0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:01.920 of all the buzz that's happening, but it's actually like 0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:05.719 I think I just remembered why I started in the 0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:08.600 first place, and like why I love doing this, And 0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:12.840 it's because I've always loved like learning, and I loved 0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:16.279 feeling that sense of improvement, and I was always very 0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:20.319 rewarded by improving, and I loved like the grind and 0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:23.080 like working super hard and feeling like you're getting that 0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:26.400 zero point zero one percent better and it's those like 0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:31.160 incremental gains. I love that feeling of improving and it's crazy. 0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:34.000 I've been doing this for over ten years now to 0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:38.680 still be learning and improving every single day is like, like. 0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:40.920 That's so cool, Like I'm very excited about that. 0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:45.400 So I think my priorities have changed a lot in 0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:49.040 a way. And I was so results oriented last year 0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:52.200 in a sense, and I was so like tense about 0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:54.400 some of these things, and now I'm like, Okay. 0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:56.440 I just want to focus on getting a little bit 0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:58.000 better every single day because I. 0:41:57.960 --> 0:42:00.279 Know that's what's gonna make me really happy at the 0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:03.480 end of it. And it's also like sailing is one 0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:06.800 of those sports where there are so many uncontrollable variables. 0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:10.239 I think it's like the sport with the most uncontrollable variables, 0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:15.080 like next to like downhill skiing, like ski racing, there's 0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:19.000 so much that's out of your control, so focusing on 0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:21.279 the results isn't going to lead you down a good 0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:24.640 path because there's just like so much that can happen 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:27.040 in that side of your control. So if you can 0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:29.960 just like focus on kind of the facts and the 0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:33.400 information that you have and yeah, just like figuring out 0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:36.440 how to get a little bit better, then that's like 0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:37.160 seems to be. 0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:39.080 Working for me a little bit more. 0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:41.560 I mean, girl, if you're at the point where you're 0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:44.320 excited to put on a wet suit, you're good because 0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:46.440 as a surfer, I can tell you it is like 0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:50.200 my least Yeah, that is my least favorite thing about 0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:52.600 surfing when the waves are good in California in the 0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:55.040 winter is like, shoot, I have to put on my 0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:57.720 stupid wetsuit and then I have to take it off 0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:00.200 and it's the worst. So if you're at the whatever 0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:04.120 you were excited about, what suit exactly, you've done it. 0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:05.040 Yeah. 0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.399 So no, I feel like I'm in a really good 0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:11.879 spot now and like it's interesting too because now we've 0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:14.520 had like a couple of regattas already for this year, 0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:17.120 like we had our European Championships in March, and then 0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:21.000 we just had the Palma Regatta, which is another big regatta, 0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:24.480 and I was eighth out of the Europeans. But I 0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:28.200 don't think I've ever been so happy to like not 0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:31.400 even win, or like I think I was more happy 0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:35.120 about like how I sailed that week than I was, like, 0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:39.400 you know, all those six years of winning everything, because 0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:42.080 I just like gotten so much better just in that 0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:45.280 one week. And it's like, yeah, for me to feel 0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:47.839 like this is like a really really positive thing, and 0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:50.440 it just like makes me feel really good going into 0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:51.920 the Olympics this year. 0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:55.200 And that's all you can ask for, you know, is 0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:57.799 like you've done the work and now you get to 0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:01.040 reap the benefits of going and representing Team USA at 0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:04.319 the Olympics. And I am so excited to watch your 0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:06.919 journey continue. I'm so grateful that you took the time 0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:08.920 to share with us a little bit of your journey 0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:11.560 so that we can root for you as a person 0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.080 and also as a member of Team USA. This summer. 0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:18.279 We're going to move into our next section of the podcast, 0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:20.960 which I'm really excited about because, like you mentioned, here, 0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:23.560 we go the sports Bra, our media partner for the 0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:26.600 powerful and so one of the things that we're going 0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:29.400 to do this week at the Sports Bra in Portland, Oregon, 0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:32.719 is there's going to be a signature Daniella drink and 0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:35.480 it can be a cocktail or a mocktail. But I 0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:39.960 want to know what is your go to like after 0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:42.440 a hard day on the water, a fun day on 0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:45.520 the water. What is the beverage that you reach for 0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:48.160 to just sort of be in your happy place. 0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:51.400 Oh my gosh, that's so hard. Okay, it depends on 0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:53.120 where I am. 0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:55.040 Pretemdb we're in a warm spot, okay. 0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:58.200 So like right now, I'm in France, and I mean 0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:01.560 I love rose, So okay, you're like, I always go 0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:04.239 for the rose. But then if I'm like in Mexico 0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:08.400 or if I'm in California, I love hard kombucha. 0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:09.759 It's like my focus. 0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:13.360 I love the Flying Embers hard kombucha. 0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:15.000 That's like one of my favorite things ever. 0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:19.279 And then in Spain, I love a white sangria. 0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:21.760 I don't really like red wine. 0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:25.680 I prefer like white wine or rose, and white sangria 0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:27.800 is just like unreal. 0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:28.480 I love it. 0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:30.759 So I have a lot of options, but you can 0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:32.160 what you guys want to do. 0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:35.960 There we go. So now we're gonna move into our 0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:39.479 rapid fire questions. So answer these with your just sort 0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:44.120 of immediate reactions. Okay, okay, coffee or tea coffee, favorite 0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:44.920 ice cream flavor? 0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:46.280 Cookies and cream. 0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:50.280 Oh, such a good one. Go to meal after a 0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:51.480 training session if. 0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:53.600 I can, like a Chipotle burta ble. 0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:54.640 I loved Paula. 0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:57.120 Yes, with the queso. 0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:01.240 I usually have no queso, but I'll have like regular cheese, 0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:02.840 but not the sauce. 0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:06.680 She's a health queen. We're a professional happening over here. 0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:08.759 And okay, so got it. I'll eat the casa for you, 0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:09.080 don't you? 0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:09.359 Friend? 0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:09.720 Okay? 0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:09.960 Are you? 0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:13.439 Are you an early birder in Idol? Uh? 0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:14.839 Definitely an early bird. 0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.560 I love waking up early and I go to bed 0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:18.760 at eight pm. 0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:22.640 Okay, I love it. I feel like that's a more 0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:26.400 productive way to do life. But I unfortunately find myself 0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:28.440 awake a lot of times at like eleven night, and 0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:30.200 I'm like, what am I doing? I don't even have 0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:30.719 anything to do. 0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:34.040 I just love being in bed at eight and like 0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:36.680 just like reading my book, like I'm such a grandma. 0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:39.080 I'm the most boring twenty three year old ever. 0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:42.560 What is one of the favorite books that you've read 0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:43.760 in the last few years. 0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:48.320 Oh, okay, So I love Sarah J. Mass an author 0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:52.280 that's written. She has three series. It's Thrown of Glass, 0:46:52.400 --> 0:46:55.520 A Court of Thorns and Roses, and Crescent City, and 0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:58.560 so I literally just like reread them over and over. 0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:02.360 And I especially like Throne of Glass because there's a 0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:05.760 really like badass female main character. 0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:10.240 Girl. I literally just finished re listening to that book, 0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:14.160 the final one. I oh, my gosh. And the funny 0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:17.560 thing is, like I am not somebody who loves fantasy 0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:20.880 as a genre, and either a friend of mine was like, 0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:23.680 you have to read this series primarily because of all 0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:26.880 the female badasses who take the lead throughout the entire 0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:29.960 like eight million page series. By the way, this thing 0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:32.520 is like, these are the longest books I've ever read, 0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:35.279 and yet I cannot put them down. I cannot do. 0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:38.040 My gosh, it's so good. I literally so I'm not 0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:38.680 even kidding. 0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:42.960 I will read Throne of Glass like before going out racing, 0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:46.120 because like I will be reading it on my iPad 0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:48.279 on the beach, like before I go out on the water. 0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:49.239 And the reason is. 0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:52.840 I try to channel my inner Solena Sardapian. 0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:55.799 Like, yeah, on the race book. If you weren't a kiteboarder, 0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:57.560 what would be the sport that you would want to 0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:58.040 compete in? 0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:02.879 Oh, so I would to be a downhill alpine ski 0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:06.399 racer because I just love going fast, so I would 0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:08.560 want to yeah, go fast. 0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:12.160 Okay, fair enough. What is the favorite place your sport 0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:12.759 has taken you? 0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:17.440 That's so hard, I mean just so many places. 0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:21.080 I'm gonna go with with love and Tata, Mexico. Okay, 0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:23.879 that's like one of my favorite places. But I have 0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:26.560 so many, But that's like, that's a good one. 0:48:26.880 --> 0:48:29.360 What is the best piece of advice you've ever gotten? 0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:33.800 The best piece of advice is probably that there's always 0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:37.680 gonna be like ups and downs and in like those 0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:40.160 low moments that are really tough for hard or like 0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:43.000 when you're having yeah, like whether it's a bad moment 0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:45.279 or a bad day or whatever it might be. I 0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:47.959 think it's important to remember that it's taking you one 0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:50.759 step closer to a really good day, and you need 0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:54.000 to have those bad days or those tough moments in 0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:57.160 order to have the really good moments or really good days, 0:48:57.200 --> 0:49:00.680 and it's just taking you like one step closer to 0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:04.759 whatever your definition of successes. So rather than seeing it 0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:08.520 as like a negative like bad day, you just have 0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:12.239 to think it's like one step closer to success or 0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:13.239 to a really good day. 0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:17.000 Ooh, I love that perspective. Okay, what is the wildest 0:49:17.000 --> 0:49:18.960 because this is something you kind of glazed over and 0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:21.200 I let it slide because, like I understand, it's not 0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:24.160 a big deal for you. But as somebody who's tried 0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:27.080 foiling right without the kite, one of the things that 0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:29.400 you just sort of glossed over is that this little 0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:33.040 wing underneath the water that you are on when you 0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:35.680 are doing the foiling part of your sport, right, is 0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:39.600 if you fall on that, you're falling on a blade. 0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:43.279 And I have tried foiling and I cannot do it, 0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:46.000 partially because I'm terrified to fall. Like I was a gymnast, 0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:48.040 I know how to fall like that is like it 0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:51.040 goes hand to hand, right, But I cannot fall off 0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:54.080 of a foil because it terrifies me because if I 0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:57.160 fall wrong, I'm going to like decapitate myself or something 0:49:57.160 --> 0:49:59.879 on this freaking blade that is moving underneath the water 0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:03.520 with me. So as somebody who's apparently not thinking about that, 0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:05.520 every single time they get on a foil. I want 0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:08.520 to ask you, what is the wildest mishap you have 0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:10.760 ever had while doing your sport? 0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:11.200 Hmmm. 0:50:11.600 --> 0:50:15.200 I'm trying to think what's my what's the best one. 0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:18.400 Because we definitely have multiple. 0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:23.160 Yeah, I've had a few good ones. I think the 0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:26.680 craziest one was so one time I was in I 0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:29.799 was training at home in San Francisco, and I was 0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:32.120 out on the water kind of by myself, just like, 0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:35.080 you know, just having a fun little session. This was 0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:37.640 pretty early on, I think, and I was still kind 0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:40.080 of learning to like tack and jobs, so I was 0:50:40.080 --> 0:50:42.759 still kind of learning to do my transitions and maneuvers. 0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:46.400 And I was right outside the Golden Gate Bridge. I 0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:51.640 do a tac and I somehow like something doesn't go right, 0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:56.120 and basically my board like flies up in the air 0:50:57.000 --> 0:51:00.080 and it does like a flip over my lines. So 0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:02.160 like my kite is in the air, my board is 0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:06.759 like over my lines, and I remember, like I'm staring 0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:09.840 up at the board that's like about to come crashing 0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:13.440 down on me because it's like it slides down the 0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:17.239 lines and I try to like duck my face out 0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:21.400 of the way to not get to catch me, and 0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:25.000 I basically the trailing edge of the mass, which is 0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:29.320 like the sharpest part of the foil, it like hits 0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:32.960 me in the nose. So I had a massive slice 0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:35.760 in my nose. And I'm like right outside the Golden 0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:37.640 Gate bridge, so I need to like come back in. 0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:40.760 So I'm like feeling my nose and I'm like, my god, 0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:43.840 damn it, like I like I got cut or something. 0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:47.040 So then I like head in, and of course. 0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:49.160 My mom is on the beach and she like catches 0:51:49.239 --> 0:51:51.719 my kite and she's like, oh my god, we have 0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:54.200 to go to the emergency room. I actually only had 0:51:54.239 --> 0:51:56.839 to get three stitches, and you could barely see a. 0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:58.160 Scar on my nose anymore. 0:51:58.600 --> 0:52:00.959 But yeah, So that's like when I'm like good ones. 0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:04.799 Oh my gosh, and like you're doing this in San Francisco, 0:52:04.920 --> 0:52:09.160 which the waters in San Francisco are like notorious for 0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:12.040 being ones you don't want to be in because of 0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:16.000 all of the wildlife that is right around there, right, 0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:19.200 And so as a again as a surfer, like I 0:52:19.320 --> 0:52:20.839 don't want to be in the water outside of San 0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:24.719 Francisco because the men in gray suits are underneath the 0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:26.840 water pretty much at all times, and that's something that 0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:30.160 you have to navigate when you fall, especially there is 0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:31.840 like you're not just falling and like, oh man, the 0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:35.880 water's cold, bummer, like you have to also avoid you know, 0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:37.280 these creatures. 0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:38.839 Yeah, I know, I like. 0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:42.120 Don't think about it that much anymore. And I've had 0:52:42.160 --> 0:52:45.759 a couple like long swims in too, like when the 0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:48.480 wind has died and I've been like I've been swimming 0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:52.759 in it, and I was definitely thinking about it, but 0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:54.880 it's like, I don't know, I don't think about it 0:52:54.920 --> 0:52:57.879 so much anymore. I also crash less now, which is good. 0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:02.360 That's good. Always nice to crash less. And if you 0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:05.200 are not an ocean person, I don't know, do you 0:53:05.440 --> 0:53:07.680 do you actually call them sharks or do you also 0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:10.919 refer to them as like the men in gray suits? 0:53:11.200 --> 0:53:11.600 Yeah? 0:53:11.680 --> 0:53:14.719 Okay, yeah, so in surfing we don't, and surfing it's 0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:17.640 typically like we do wildlife. There's like I don't know 0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:22.200 if there's a weird like uh, superstition or something around it, 0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:25.640 but I'm always I'm always looking for dolphins and then 0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:27.840 I'm calling yeah, and then I'm like the men in 0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:31.520 gray suits or like the locals who aren't off who 0:53:31.560 --> 0:53:36.400 aren't always friendly. Like that's how I refer to to sharks, 0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:39.120 because I actually sharks are like one of my favorite animals. 0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:41.279 I find them fascinating. I think they're so interesting, and 0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:45.839 I think they get a terrible wrap. And also I 0:53:45.840 --> 0:53:47.480 have so much restruct for them. I like them so 0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:51.120 much that I'd actually never like to come in contact 0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:54.520 with them without intentionally doing so, you know, like I 0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:56.600 don't like, I don't want to fall off my board 0:53:56.640 --> 0:53:59.120 and then and then see see one of the locals. 0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:00.440 That's like not the way I'd like to do it, 0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:05.919 so exactly I support that, Thank you, Thank you. So 0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:08.759 the last question, which is not rapid fire, I'm gonna 0:54:08.760 --> 0:54:10.879 have to change the name of the section for our episode. 0:54:11.080 --> 0:54:14.560 But your mom is somebody that I think, just from 0:54:14.600 --> 0:54:17.440 reading about her a little bit, she is such an 0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:20.040 amazing woman. You mentioned that she and your dad both 0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:25.360 left left the regime and what was in Czechoslovakia met 0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:27.960 as in the Bay at San Francisco, and she was 0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:31.279 out there with you while she was pregnant with you 0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:34.439 for a few months in a competition that, if I 0:54:34.480 --> 0:54:38.719 read it correctly, like only half of the participants completed 0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:42.600 the course because the conditions were so gnarly, and she 0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:44.960 did it while she was pregnant with you, What is 0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:47.880 the biggest thing from your mom that you want to 0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:52.080 carry on in your life and maybe in the generations 0:54:52.080 --> 0:54:53.520 behind you of moroses. 0:54:53.800 --> 0:54:57.640 Yeah, I think. I mean both of my parents were 0:54:57.760 --> 0:55:01.839 just always super hard working. And I mean for them 0:55:01.880 --> 0:55:06.320 to have left their lives and come to foreign country 0:55:07.080 --> 0:55:09.680 that like where they didn't speak the language and have 0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:13.399 to start completely new lives like that takes a lot 0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:14.719 of guts and like. 0:55:14.760 --> 0:55:15.560 A lot of work. 0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:19.799 And so I think they also raised me that way 0:55:19.920 --> 0:55:22.080 that like, no matter what I wanted to do, as 0:55:22.120 --> 0:55:24.640 long as I worked hard and I worked hard in school, 0:55:25.239 --> 0:55:28.600 then like that was like that was how you do things, 0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:32.239 like you work hard and so but I think they 0:55:32.280 --> 0:55:34.759 also like they never pushed me into anything, and they 0:55:34.800 --> 0:55:37.040 also wanted to make sure I was like really having 0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:38.480 fun and enjoying whatever. 0:55:38.200 --> 0:55:41.759 I was doing. So I think that I mean even now, 0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:44.120 like she my mom will. 0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:46.160 Always text me before I'm going out racing. 0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:49.080 Is like go kick ass and have fun, you know. 0:55:49.200 --> 0:55:49.960 So She's like, go. 0:55:49.960 --> 0:55:53.359 Fast and have fun, and and the thing it's like, yeah, 0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:57.319 like you know, work hard and and just have fun 0:55:57.360 --> 0:56:00.120 while you're doing it. So I think that's the thing 0:56:00.200 --> 0:56:05.200 I want to bring forward, is like I want myself 0:56:05.320 --> 0:56:10.080 and also like you know, whatever comes after me, to 0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:13.400 just work hard and have fun while. 0:56:13.120 --> 0:56:14.480 I'm while I'm doing it. 0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:17.399 I love that. I think that is the two things, right, 0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:19.560 is like work hard and also make sure you're having 0:56:19.600 --> 0:56:22.160 fun while you're working hard. It's the balance of life. 0:56:23.160 --> 0:56:25.879 Yeah, And then the. 0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:28.400 Last question I have for you. Obviously, this is the 0:56:28.600 --> 0:56:32.160 Powerful Podcast, and we're all about featuring powerful women who 0:56:32.320 --> 0:56:36.160 embody what it means to be powerful while also owning 0:56:36.239 --> 0:56:40.680 their femininity, their grace, their unique strength, all of these things. 0:56:40.680 --> 0:56:44.080 So what does it mean to you to be powerful? 0:56:44.680 --> 0:56:46.840 Oh? So good. 0:56:48.320 --> 0:56:53.359 I think it means really just embracing who you are 0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:55.960 and embracing all of yourself. 0:56:56.200 --> 0:56:57.760 And that can. 0:56:57.640 --> 0:57:01.680 Be really hard, and I definitely I think it's so hard, 0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:05.960 especially now, like with social media and just with with 0:57:06.280 --> 0:57:09.120 everything like that you have to go through, especially in 0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:12.759 your adolescence and when you're a teenager, Like it's so 0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:19.000 hard to like learn to accept all of yourself. And 0:57:19.040 --> 0:57:23.080 so I think, like to be really powerful is like 0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:27.440 learning to accept everything that you are and embracing all 0:57:27.520 --> 0:57:31.480 of yourself and and putting that out to the world 0:57:32.560 --> 0:57:36.520 because I think I love I think people love seeing 0:57:36.640 --> 0:57:41.040 other people in like their most authentic selves. So to me, 0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:44.760 it's like being the most true version of yourself. 0:57:45.040 --> 0:57:48.880 And when do you feel the most powerful? I mean, I. 0:57:48.800 --> 0:57:52.680 Don't know, I feel it like I definitely, of course 0:57:52.720 --> 0:57:55.080 I feel powerful, like when I'm out on the water 0:57:55.120 --> 0:57:58.240 and when I'm racing, and there's like there are so 0:57:58.400 --> 0:58:01.120 few things that will like give me that same feeling 0:58:01.200 --> 0:58:03.520 of like of what it's like to be flying across 0:58:03.560 --> 0:58:07.840 the water and racing and just doing my sport. But 0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:11.480 then I also feel it like other times in small moments, 0:58:11.480 --> 0:58:15.080 like even just being like cooking dinner with my friends 0:58:15.120 --> 0:58:19.760 and like having having a really nice dinner, and like 0:58:20.320 --> 0:58:23.240 knowing that I can be myself around these people and 0:58:23.280 --> 0:58:26.680 that my friends are gonna accept all of me no 0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:31.640 matter what and like and just and they like support 0:58:31.720 --> 0:58:33.680 me and doing that they want to they want what's 0:58:33.720 --> 0:58:36.120 best for me, and they want to see me succeed. 0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:40.240 Like that also makes me feel really powerful into it. 0:58:40.680 --> 0:58:43.480 And to be able to offer like that same sentiment 0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:46.400 to someone else and to my own friends, I think 0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:50.919 that's a really unique like feeling to share. So mm hmmm, 0:58:51.440 --> 0:58:53.880 I love that because I think we can be powerful 0:58:53.920 --> 0:58:56.360 in multiple ways. And for you, it can be flying 0:58:56.400 --> 0:58:59.840 forty five miles an hour across the ocean, or it 0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:03.080 can be cooking dinner and being in a space and 0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:06.200 creating a space where people can be their authentic selves. 0:59:06.200 --> 0:59:10.600 And I think that's that's exactly why I started this pod, 0:59:10.640 --> 0:59:12.280 like that's what I want, That's what I hope people 0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:14.960 feel from you, because it's certainly what I have felt 0:59:14.960 --> 0:59:16.960 throughout this last hour of getting to know. 0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:19.479 You a little bit better. I cannot wait to root 0:59:19.520 --> 0:59:23.040 you on in Paris this summer and also even beyond. 0:59:23.200 --> 0:59:27.040 And so follow Daniella on Life of Daniella right is 0:59:27.080 --> 0:59:31.080 your Instagram, and then also Danielleburas dot com is where 0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:33.680 I have loved reading your blogs and keeping up with 0:59:33.720 --> 0:59:36.680 your journey, and so that's where you guys can follow her. 0:59:36.760 --> 0:59:39.120 And I am just so grateful for your time. I'm 0:59:39.160 --> 0:59:42.160 so grateful for your vulnerability. So thank you so much 0:59:42.200 --> 0:59:44.520 for being here. Thank you so much. It was so nice, 0:59:44.600 --> 0:59:46.400 it was so great to have you. Thanks for joining 0:59:46.480 --> 0:59:48.720 us on this episode of the Powerful Podcast. We will 0:59:48.720 --> 0:59:50.720 see you next time. 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