WEBVTT - Second Date Update Classic: Blunder Down Under

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<v Speaker 1>Second date update.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the keys to successfully dating is just to

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<v Speaker 2>actually give a crap and try.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a big key.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like that's too much work.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is, don't try too hard, because that comes

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<v Speaker 2>off desperate. You can't try too little either, though, because

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<v Speaker 2>then you seem like a jerk just doesn't care. Try

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<v Speaker 2>goldielocks it and try medium till it's just right.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of our.

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<v Speaker 2>Listeners, William, emailed the show saying he's worried he may

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<v Speaker 2>have tried too hard on his date. William, you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>channel your inner Goldilocks for this.

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<v Speaker 5>I tried try too hard.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't wake up in a strange house with three

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<v Speaker 4>bears failure.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we can't undo anything that happened, but why don't

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<v Speaker 2>you tell us about it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the name of the woman that you went out with?

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<v Speaker 5>Her name is Stacy?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so where'd you meet her?

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<v Speaker 5>I met her online? You know, at first, I was

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<v Speaker 5>actually pretty intimidated just by her profile pictures.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, because she's like really attractive to you.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that for sure, but also she seems to have

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<v Speaker 5>kind of an extravagant, sophisticated, cultured life, more so than

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<v Speaker 5>myself I'll say, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Why did she put in her pictures to like to

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<v Speaker 4>pick that?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there was like pictures of her on a sailboat

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<v Speaker 5>with what looks to be her very well addressed family,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe in Greece somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 5>She was, you know, at soccer games in Europe.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that's a match, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wouldn't expect you to be fancy enough to

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<v Speaker 2>know that that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I was really intimidating, which I actually told

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<v Speaker 5>her that in the initial messaging. Oh did Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm pretty honest. Maybe to the fault, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well she obviously liked it because she responded, alexis.

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<v Speaker 3>If a guy writes to you, I'm intimidated by you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that not a strong move?

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<v Speaker 5>No? Not.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, a football in Europe doesn't cost that much.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, don't do that until Okay, I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 4>take it together. I'm just saying I take it back.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>But the bottom line is she responded.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, she responded, all right, she said, ha ha,

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<v Speaker 5>you should be.

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<v Speaker 3>So what did you do for a date?

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<v Speaker 5>I made dinner reservations, nice little spot. I got dressed up,

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<v Speaker 5>even borrowed nice shirt from my roommate.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh everyone shares.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you normally do that, like share fancy clothes?

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<v Speaker 3>You have a roommate life. I used to have a

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<v Speaker 3>blazer and we had like a community blazer. Like yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, did that pay off for you?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I was feeling good, So that's helpful, I think.

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<v Speaker 5>And she told me I look nice and that she

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<v Speaker 5>she looked incredible.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you tell her that was scary too? How good

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<v Speaker 4>she looked?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I I reiterated how intimidated I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I imagine, like cowering at everything, like just.

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<v Speaker 4>To eat.

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<v Speaker 2>We're playing it up for you, man, I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 2>were fine.

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<v Speaker 5>I think so. I mean she was really nice for

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<v Speaker 5>the most part. I mean I saw that she loves

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<v Speaker 5>chocolate off on her profile, so I thought i'd bring

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<v Speaker 5>her a gift, and I brought her almond rocca.

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<v Speaker 1>Cute.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that was the best option.

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<v Speaker 4>That's kind of a grandparent's chocolate.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, at this store and it looks nice,

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<v Speaker 5>it has like gold foil. I thought it looked kind

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<v Speaker 5>of fancy, but she said it's not really chocolate, which

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't really I've never had really eaten myself.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of toffee, A lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>Harsh to say when someone's giving you a gift that's

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<v Speaker 2>not actually take us to the highlights of the date.

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<v Speaker 3>Were the good moments?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, during dinner I wanted to get to I had.

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<v Speaker 5>I was so curious, you know, from her profile, and

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<v Speaker 5>I kept asking her a lot of questions. And I

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<v Speaker 5>might have kind of asked too many questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that possible maybe.

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<v Speaker 5>If it starts to feel like somebody's given you the

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<v Speaker 5>third degree interrogating you. It wasn't really my attention.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean, if there's not like a real natural

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<v Speaker 4>flow to it, I guess you.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't want the date to come off sounding like a job.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, tell me. Can you think of one question that

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<v Speaker 4>went too far?

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<v Speaker 5>I asked her if she's ever been engaged before.

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<v Speaker 3>That date? Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>And what was her response?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, because we talked a little bit about the house

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<v Speaker 5>relationships and she had, uh was dating a guy in

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<v Speaker 5>Spain for a long time, and and that's how it

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<v Speaker 5>came up because she said it was really serious.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind intense.

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<v Speaker 5>I was not trying to pry though.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go to the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 5>What happened at the end, Well, we had the almon

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<v Speaker 5>roka for dessert, which was nice at the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 4>And you just opened up the package right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, because they asked if we wanted any of the dessert,

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<v Speaker 5>she said she wouldn't that hunger, But I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I brought this for you, and that's when I.

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<v Speaker 4>That's when she turned up her nose. And so it's

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<v Speaker 4>not really chocolate.

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<v Speaker 5>She did say that, But then we did actually enjoy

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<v Speaker 5>it together, and I hope she thought it was funny

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<v Speaker 5>that I tried, even though failed that even bringing chocolate.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty yeah, all right, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, well I'm going to give it a B plus

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<v Speaker 2>so far.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my that's my grade on a curve.

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<v Speaker 5>Have you heard from her, Well, I don't really heard

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<v Speaker 5>from her, but it ended okay, like we hugged, we

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<v Speaker 5>said goodbye.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what Brooke does with her children though, so

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<v Speaker 2>you can't really judge by that.

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<v Speaker 4>But and they complain about every food item I give them.

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<v Speaker 2>So the good news is there's a lot of room

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<v Speaker 2>to improve from here, and we're going to try and

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<v Speaker 2>do that when we come back and do your second

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<v Speaker 2>date update.

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<v Speaker 1>Right after this second date update if.

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<v Speaker 3>You're just joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>We're on the phone with William, who went out recently

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<v Speaker 2>with a world traveler named Stacy. Stacy has studied in

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<v Speaker 2>the universities of Europe. She's dated the men of Spain

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<v Speaker 2>and cheered for the football clubs of Liechtenburg, where instead

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<v Speaker 2>of cheering hooray there, they cheer and reverse. Oh really,

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<v Speaker 2>can you say horay backwards? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>classy because it's European. Yeah. At the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>second date, when we get Stacy and William to meet

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<v Speaker 2>up again, but obviously she is clearly a world traveler.

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<v Speaker 2>He was intimidated by that, which led me to the question, William,

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<v Speaker 2>why would she want to go out with you in

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<v Speaker 2>the first place.

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<v Speaker 4>Jeff came off so hard.

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<v Speaker 2>He said to himself that she's so worldly, she's so traveled.

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<v Speaker 3>What would be the appeal for her.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm a nice guy, and I'm open to going

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<v Speaker 5>on more traveling ventures. I mean, I've traveled a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit myself.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you traveled the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, Jeffrey. Not everybody can afford that. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think what it would be appealing is he seems like

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<v Speaker 4>a really curious guy. Right, Like, that's who someone who

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<v Speaker 4>likes to travel.

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<v Speaker 3>Website for curious men. I think that's a totally different issue, Broke.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, I think you sound totally fine.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, William honestly interested in her adventures. He

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<v Speaker 4>asked a ton of questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you traveled at all? Before? You not travel? What's

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<v Speaker 3>your travel experience?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I mean I've been out of the country.

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<v Speaker 5>I've gone to Cabo twice. Oh wow, I've driven to

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<v Speaker 5>Scottsdale before.

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<v Speaker 4>Scottsdale, Wow, Arizona.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there's something to work right here. It's not quite

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Vienna Opera house, but it's close.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>The positive is she could show him all these places. Jeffrey,

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<v Speaker 4>you just have to convince her.

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<v Speaker 3>And he can show her the golf course at Scott's Stay.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's just get her on the phone.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited to talk to this worldly lady. Let's get

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<v Speaker 3>her on the phone right now. Here we go. You're

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<v Speaker 3>ready to speak English.

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<v Speaker 5>She does speak English, right, I think she speaks a

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<v Speaker 5>couple of languages actually, but English.

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<v Speaker 3>On your date is going to go really.

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<v Speaker 6>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna try and see how it goes here. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>down the number right now. Hello, Bonjoel is the Stacey.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry for.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Lisa French. I won't try.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, Stacey, I'm hoping. This is a radio show called

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<v Speaker 2>Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning.

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<v Speaker 6>Can I help you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we need a lot of help, I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>But mostly we're looking for help for one of our

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<v Speaker 2>listeners named William, because he's a guy who rumor has

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<v Speaker 2>it you went on a date with recently.

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<v Speaker 6>What is this about a date?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>This is It's a segment we do called Second Date

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<v Speaker 2>Update where our listeners go out with someone and if

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<v Speaker 2>they're not hearing back, or if they feel like they're

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<v Speaker 2>getting ghosted, they can email us and we'll try and

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<v Speaker 2>reach out to that person for them.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a real North American continent type thing.

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<v Speaker 2>M Yeah, sorry for being weird about all the North

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<v Speaker 2>America stuff. It's just we we heard that you're very

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<v Speaker 2>well traveled.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I am well traveled. Who is the guy? Or

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<v Speaker 6>which date was this? And then on a couple recently.

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<v Speaker 3>It was William? Oh yeah, William oh William?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you guys went and got dinner together the other night.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, we went out to dinner.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, did you enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know what you want from me here. It

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<v Speaker 6>was it was a nice time.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. Well, I guess is what we want is honesty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're just we're trying to help out William a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit because he doesn't understand why there hasn't been

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<v Speaker 2>a second meetup.

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<v Speaker 4>He really liked you a lot and thought that maybe

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<v Speaker 4>they saw some potential between you two.

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<v Speaker 6>I just honestly, he just wasn't cultured enough for me.

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<v Speaker 6>And I don't know, he just he lacked manners.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, lacked man Well, hold on, are we nitpicking? Did

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<v Speaker 3>not like have his fork in the right area of

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<v Speaker 3>the place.

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<v Speaker 6>He didn't have he doesn't have good etiquette.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, any example.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, an example is he kind of yelled out when

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<v Speaker 6>he had to go to the bathroom. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 6>in a really nice restaurant.

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<v Speaker 3>Stick to like the whole room or what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, he just he got up and he says, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>going to the bathroom, and it was like it was

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<v Speaker 6>a big announcement.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, that's bad ettiquette.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, excuse me.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he was just trying to tell her where

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<v Speaker 4>he was going so that you didn't think he was

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<v Speaker 4>ditching you or something.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, he could have just said, excuse me for a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, I'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 4>Have a lot higher standards than I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I think that's a little bit picky, at

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<v Speaker 3>least for us. Is that all that he did.

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<v Speaker 6>No, we're at a very nice steakhouse and he waved

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<v Speaker 6>down the waiter to get more bread, And.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, is that is that rude?

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<v Speaker 1>What is that?

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<v Speaker 4>I love that bread.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, if the bread's good, you want more.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it just seemed a little low class to me.

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<v Speaker 6>He would have waited till they came to refill you know,

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<v Speaker 6>my wine, or I'm a good server at a.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice restaurant, it's going to check on you all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>so you expect him to be around every five minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess if I remember back to my private school,

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<v Speaker 2>you are supposed to wait for the waiter to come

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<v Speaker 2>to the table. You're not supposed to shout across the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody lives by these rules anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, well, that's brook, but it's not okay when

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<v Speaker 2>you go to an actual respected place, a.

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<v Speaker 4>Beautiful steak dinner. Right, he's the one that picked it,

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<v Speaker 4>He's the one that took you there.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, the restaurant was great. It's just I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 6>more stuff. He's just so loud and I was whispering

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<v Speaker 6>because there's other people around, and it was just really

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<v Speaker 6>inappropriate for such a nice place.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, excuse me, excuse me, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>This is William.

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<v Speaker 5>We were at an outback steakhouse. It wasn't a Michelin

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<v Speaker 5>star type of restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, oh sorry, hold.

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<v Speaker 3>On, hold on, hold on, William.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to let Stacy know that William has been

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<v Speaker 2>waiting on the other line listening to this whole conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>He's wanting to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 6>It was, Yes, it was an outback steakhouse. It was

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<v Speaker 6>the first time I've ever been. It was a very

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<v Speaker 6>lovely Australian steakhouse. Lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>You're so world You've never been to an outback, which

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<v Speaker 2>is not worldly you what do you mean you think

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<v Speaker 2>that an outback steakhouse is a very like fine dining establishment.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a big propliment for any outback people listening.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not that it was like the best steakhouse I've

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<v Speaker 6>ever been, but it was just it felt authentic.

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<v Speaker 4>Waitit wait, did you did you look around at the

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<v Speaker 4>other guests. You can wave down all the free bread

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<v Speaker 4>you want there.

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<v Speaker 6>I have traveled a lot, and not all restaurants are

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<v Speaker 6>five star, you know, Michelin restaurants, But they're beautiful and

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<v Speaker 6>there's culture. So I thought that that was just an authentic,

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<v Speaker 6>you know thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't really.

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<v Speaker 4>There's definitely culture outback, but it's not like high society culture.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, honestly, I'm just happy he didn't take

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<v Speaker 6>me to a chain restaurant. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't recommend googling out back. It would be you.

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<v Speaker 4>Should try Applebee's. It's this little quaint place. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>great Long Island girl.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to give you too many ideas.

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<v Speaker 6>Honestly, I don't even know what you guys are talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, don't worry about any of that.

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<v Speaker 2>We should be worried about is William, who had a

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<v Speaker 2>great time with you the other night. Restaurant and etiquette aside,

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<v Speaker 2>and what he really wants is just to see you

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<v Speaker 2>one more time and give it another chance.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and you know what, if you do agree to

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<v Speaker 5>go on a date with me on the second day

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<v Speaker 5>and night, I really do hope you do. I will

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<v Speaker 5>take you to a really nice place and I will

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<v Speaker 5>show you that I have proper etiquette. I am a

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<v Speaker 5>class d guy. I know how to behave depending on

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<v Speaker 5>where I'm at. And Wow, I want you to give

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<v Speaker 5>me a chance to show that to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow. It was a gentleman response if I have ever

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<v Speaker 4>heard one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well crafted, very thoughtful. And all that's left now is

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<v Speaker 2>stacy a yes or no. If you want to go

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<v Speaker 2>out with him one more time, we'll pay for it

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<v Speaker 2>and tell us if you're curtsying while you're doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Please.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what I I don't do charity. I'm okay,

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<v Speaker 6>Oh you don't do charity.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to be charity like that good manners and da.

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<v Speaker 2>You really are worldly, aren't you.

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<v Speaker 6>I do charity. I don't take charity as.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, I am sorry, dude, Yeah, yeah, he can't win

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<v Speaker 5>them all. I guess I'll give it another crack out there, wave.

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<v Speaker 4>Your hands around and ask for help again.

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<v Speaker 1>Rook Jeffrey in the morning,