1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that. 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 2: Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: The rex was not chasing the jeep. Murray, Murray, you there. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: You love sandwiches. Huh, Let's go to eighty Wow that 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: Prime Time. Maybe I had a crush on Betty Rubbell. 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: to commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman was black. 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: He caught them the game last night, although they won 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: the game. 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Stu Gottsen Company. Welcome to Stu gods 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: and Company. I am in Syracuse, New York. I am covering. 12 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 2: I am doing this for our production company, my company 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: IP Productions. I am doing it for them. I am 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: covering the big Duke Syracuse game Duke minus four and 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: a half on the FANDUL sportsbook right now. 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: What a big game. I wish they were playing basketball. 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: Bad injury for Syracuse last week Steve and Jelly out 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: for the season with a achilles injury. Believe I believe 19 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 3: they're turning to Ricky Collins now. 20 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe they are. 21 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: That was one of the crazy things about that victory 22 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: at Clemson is that people forget that Syracuse's quarterback. 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: They're starting quarterback. Well, I believe transferred right Taylor. 24 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy tore his achilles like halfway through that 25 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: game and Syracuse still went on. 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: To be Clemson at Clemson. 27 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 4: Anyway, if we're gonna have these travel situations for the company, 28 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 4: we should have production meetings to talk about these things. 29 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 4: Because I have no idea about the Duke Syracuse game. 30 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to talk about it. I got 31 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 1: it covered. 32 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: Keep an eye on Syracuse's new quarterback, Ricky Collins. He 33 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 3: transfers over from LSU. He's a dual threat guy from 34 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: Baton Rouge, so a big get for for the QS 35 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: for Syracuse. 36 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, that's the second time. Where where is he Syracuse? 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 5: Like Sarah Lawrence Syracuse. 38 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 4: Sira Syracura. 39 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 5: Yes, that's Syracuse. 40 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 3: It's Sira Tomato, Tomato. 41 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: There it is. I'm so proud of you. It's the 42 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: exact line you deliver there. 43 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: Anyway, you guys were telling me, I'm interested to hear 44 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: about this. The football game I am told was a 45 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: close finish last night and someone's been stealing my takes. 46 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 2: Let's start with the football game first. 47 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 4: Well, do we have to because I mean it's like 48 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 4: it's yes, you know, I'm an NBA guy, right, yeah. 49 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 4: If if it's like Tuesday night or not Tuesday, I 50 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 4: guess a Friday night or whatever. And it's only like 51 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 4: the Utah Jazz and the Portland Blazers Trailblazers playing a game. 52 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 4: I don't have to watch that game. 53 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: No, you don't know. But it's one of eighty two. 54 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 2: This is one of seventeen. It's a big. 55 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: Okay, but one of seventeen is still less than like 56 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 4: eight percent. And it's not that important to me to 57 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 4: shut off my Thursday night and watch Seahawks Cardinals. 58 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: I will say this. Those were two two and one 59 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: teams going in those words. 60 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: Yes, but we said after Arizona's two and oh start 61 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: it was a bad two and oh start. 62 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: We all know like they're Fronds. Okay. Kyler Murray is 63 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: not good. 64 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: I'm tired of waiting every season for Kyler Murray to 65 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: become the quarterback we all want him to become. He's 66 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: not gonna become that guy. He's better at flag football 67 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 2: than he is NFL football. He'd be a much better 68 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 2: quarterback in that league than he is in this league. 69 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 2: He's just not good. Now, another game got close last night. 70 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: I turned it off thinking the Seahawks were gonna run 71 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: away with that game. You guys are telling me it 72 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: came down to a game winning field goal that Kyler Murray, 73 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: who I just ripped, got them back into the game. 74 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 4: Well, stue. If I were to just go and I 75 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 4: want Taylor to give me a recap here in a second, 76 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 4: But if I were to just go by snippets I've 77 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 4: seen on social media, I have no idea how the 78 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 4: Seahawks did any of this, except for I guess the 79 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 4: quarterback was getting some praise. Well, Sam Darnold must have 80 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 4: done something good. And I also believe that Marvin Harrison 81 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 4: Junior might have had the most dramatic game in NFL history, 82 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: because all I see is these clips of him just 83 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 4: being super sad and oh no, I'm terrible. And then 84 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 4: he had a touchdown which seemed at the time like 85 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 4: maybe not that important, maybe they're not gonna get back 86 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 4: in this game, and then he was just crying on 87 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 4: the or not crying, looked like he was getting emotional 88 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 4: in the end zone, and I'm like, what happened? What 89 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 4: is going on here? So Taylor, please fill me in 90 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 4: on not just what happened in this game, but what 91 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 4: the hell happened to Marvin Harrison junior. They can't miss kid. 92 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: I'd like to fill you in quickly before Taylor does 93 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: that on the good thing that Sam Darnold did, and 94 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: what he did was. 95 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: Leave the Jets. That's what he did. Okay, So anyway, 96 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: Taylor recapped the game for us. 97 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: So I just want to first off say, I don't 98 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 3: love being the sports show where people are like, hey, 99 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: I'm going to sleep fake it. We're traveling, okay, traveling. 100 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 4: I'm not faking it for Cardinals Seahawks, Dude, I'm sorry. 101 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 4: I will fake it like crazy for like Packers, Eagles, 102 00:04:58,720 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: like they don't. 103 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 2: Have they don't have TV's on your private jets to no, 104 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 2: not a miss one. 105 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 3: I would understand if where like you know, the Boomer 106 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 3: and g O's the six am slot, like we're recording this, 107 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: it's it's ten thirty in the morning, Like you guys 108 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: had plenty of time to wake up watch a little 109 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,119 Speaker 3: condensed version of this game turned into a great game. 110 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: So it felt like the Seahawks just couldn't put them away. 111 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: The Cardinals kind of storm back but it was it 112 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 3: was less of a storm and more of like a 113 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: drizzle back because it was very very apparent what was happening. 114 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 5: What happened was the kicker for the Seahawks missed a 115 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 5: chip shot of fifty seven yards missed. 116 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: Did you get what was. 117 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 4: The fourth down situation there? How do you're not going 118 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: for it? Was it fourth and long? 119 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: It was? 120 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: It was? 121 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 5: It was long enough, it was and long enough. He 122 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 5: missed a chip shot. It was fifty seven yards. And 123 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 5: then all of a sudden, Cardinals had the ball on 124 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 5: on the plus side of the field. 125 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: And one thing you'll notice with what happens, So he 126 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: missed the field goal. Now it's a seven point game 127 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: instead of a ten point game. In a two score game, 128 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: the Cardinals go down. The Cardinals score with like thirty 129 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: somethings seconds left. 130 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: But then kickers and then kickers. 131 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was some debate whether or not the Cardinals 132 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: were going to go for two and try to go 133 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: for the win. They they're at home, so they play 134 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: for overtime. They kick the extra point, they make it. 135 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: Then Arizona's kicker on the kickoff, he does like this 136 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: little like chip shot thing every time he's on the kickoff. 137 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 4: I saw that on the highlight reel. 138 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: But it doesn't make it to the landing coming back 139 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,119 Speaker 3: to you, he doesn't make it to the landing zone. 140 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: So the card. So the Seahawks start with the ball 141 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: on the forty. If it doesn't go there, I think 142 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: the Seahawks were just going to play for overtime, because 143 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: when you're watching this Seahawks team, they don't really play 144 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: like they trust Sam Darnold a ton, Like if it's 145 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: third and long, they might as well just send the 146 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 3: punter out because they're just gonna hand it off and 147 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: and trust their defense. But when the ball goes to 148 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 3: the forty, they were like, okay, let's let Sam try 149 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: to make a play. He finds Jackson Smith and Jig 150 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: before like twenty two yards, get some field goal range, 151 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: and then they kicked the game winning field goal. 152 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: Taylor put it on the pole to the Seahawks trust 153 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, yes or no? And should the Seahawks send 154 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: out the punter on third and long. 155 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 4: Here's the thing. First of all, this is good for 156 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 4: the audience, right because Taylor, yes, I know, you don't 157 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 4: want to be the sports show that falls asleep. Right, 158 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 4: But there's a lot of other sports than in the NFL. 159 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 4: We can talk golf for half an hour if we 160 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 4: really wanted to. Of course now we don't want. 161 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: Me, but I think it's helping drilled right now. It's 162 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: early on though it's really crazy early. Relax, it's early. 163 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 4: All right, But there are a lot of other people 164 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 4: who also fell asleep, didn't watch it, never tuned in, 165 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 4: and are just finding out thanks to your great breakdown 166 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 4: of what happened, and now they can assess it properly. 167 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yep. Listen. 168 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: I'm with Taylor. I don't want to be that show either. 169 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: I would have watched that game last night, but you also. 170 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 4: Didn't excite me with that recap. Nothing about that recap 171 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 4: was exciting. And my big question is when he did 172 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 4: kick it short of the landing zone, did you have 173 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 4: any idea where the ball was going? Nobody. 174 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 5: I knew it was going to go further than they 175 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 5: wanted it to and it was what But the funny 176 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 5: thing is he squib kicked it like he he no. 177 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 5: It looked like he had absolutely no. 178 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: He didn't know the rules, which means the head coach 179 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: and the special teams coach probably don't know the rules, 180 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: which that is he That's a problem if you're not 181 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: listen as a coach. As a player, all you want 182 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: your coaches to do is put you in the best. 183 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: Possible position to win games. 184 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: Now, yes, you should take it upon yourself to know 185 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: all the rules, but if they don't know the rules, 186 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: that's a fucking problem. 187 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: Dude. 188 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 4: This reminds me of like all the coaches are effectively boomers, right, 189 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 4: this is just them with their new iPhone. They're like, 190 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 4: I don't have time to learn these fucking kickoff rules. 191 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 4: I don't want to know. Just squib that bitch. 192 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: I'm not sure they didn't know the rules. By the 193 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 3: way he on his on his kickoffs, it looks like 194 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: every kickoff he's like taking something off the kickoffs so 195 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: it lands like as close as possible to the landing zone. 196 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: For whatever reason, I don't know what he's doing, but 197 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 3: it does look intentional every time he's going up there, 198 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 3: that he's taking something off the kicks. 199 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: What happens to just kicking one through the end zone? 200 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, what happened to that? 201 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 4: I think I'm not sure. 202 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: I think I know you get. 203 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 4: And you can definitely kick it off through the uprights. 204 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 4: Your team does get three points. 205 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 5: Yes, I also love that is he called them all 206 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 5: boomers Jonathan Gannet's forty two. 207 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: I think that's the millennial. 208 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 5: I think most of these are actually technically millennials. 209 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 4: I think I think the way we've used it these 210 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 4: days is just like it's not really your generation. It's 211 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 4: just once you cross the forty like and I mean 212 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 4: forty years, not the forty yard line. Once you across 213 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 4: the forty threshold, you're a boomer, like you're an I'm 214 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 4: not learning new shit anymore. Like don't give me give 215 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 4: me an iPhone twelve for the rest of my life. 216 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 3: So Stu, I saw a take or not a take, 217 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: but a question after this game from PFT commenter, a 218 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: friend of the show. PFT commenter, Yes, he said, are 219 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals the worst good team of all time 220 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: or the best bad team of all time? Because I 221 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 3: think I have a pretty clear answer here. 222 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 4: I think I agree with you. 223 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: Best bad team of all time? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because 224 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: they're not good. 225 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: In no world is this a good team. No, They're 226 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: the best bad team. 227 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 5: Speaking of which, they did this whole thing during the 228 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 5: broadcast where they showed like Seahawks versus Cardinals, and I 229 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 5: think it's one of the worst divisional rivalries like you 230 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 5: can think of in the NFL. Like I don't think 231 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 5: of those two as hating each other. I don't think 232 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 5: of those two as rivals. 233 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 4: They're just kind of both there Rockets and the Utah Jazz. 234 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 4: Like Vernon Maxwell touched it about Utah, But are they 235 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 4: a rivalry? Nobody thinks of that. What did happen with 236 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior? Because if he is like he is 237 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 4: the guy and Kyler Murray is, I would say that 238 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 4: would make this a worst good team of all time 239 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 4: because those guys are good football players, or at least 240 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 4: they were once in their lives. What the hell happened? 241 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: Let me guess here, as someone who did not watch 242 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: this portion of the game when they're focusing in on 243 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison, actually saw it early in the game, So 244 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: let me guess here. Okay, one of the storylines was 245 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 2: Harrison not off to as good as start as he 246 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: was last year, not getting as many balls as he 247 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: was last year, maybe getting frustrated with Kyler Murray. The 248 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: offense is sputtering and they just put the camera right 249 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: on Marvin Harrison because Marvin Harrison's frustrated. 250 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna say he dropped a bunch of passes. 251 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 5: So basically, at one point in the game, he had 252 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 5: one reception on five targets for eight yards, but he 253 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 5: also had two of Kyler Murray's interceptions were both on 254 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 5: balls targeted to Marvin Harrison, and one of them literally 255 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 5: hit off his hands and bounced into the defender's hands. 256 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 3: And the first one he just gave up on the route. 257 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, he just gave up on the route and Kyler 258 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 5: Murray kind of overthrew it a little bit. 259 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 4: So was he never a good player? Did we give 260 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 4: him more credit than he deserves? Did he play at 261 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 4: an NFL factory? And just you know, in terms of 262 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 4: just it was a workout? God, I guess you could say, 263 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 4: because I don't think I've really seen this level of 264 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 4: just disappointment from a player who physically looks the part. 265 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 5: When you look at all the other wide receivers to 266 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 5: come out of Ohio State, you might wonder if the 267 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 5: problem is Kyler Murray. Maybe he's the problem, right Ert Wilson, 268 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 5: Chris Olave before he started having you know, head hair 269 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 5: Thoo last night a Mecca Buka on the bucks in 270 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 5: his rookie year. These are all guys having huge years. 271 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: Taylor put it on the pole. Is Ohio state wide receiver? You? 272 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: Because I believe they are L L s oh Ls. 273 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: He is pretty good. Well they have listen, they're top heavy. 274 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: I mean they Yeah. 275 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 3: But OBJ Thomas junior. 276 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: To OBJ is not playing anymore, is he? Yeah? 277 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 3: But to have the U the you moncure. 278 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Obj is a one catch Hall of Famer. Okay, 279 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: that's it. Put him in the one catch Hall of Fame. 280 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,599 Speaker 2: You may what catch. Put them in the Hall of 281 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: fame for it. One gets to take. Some people might 282 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: want to steal ah. Maybe, well listen, a who's stealing 283 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: my takes? 284 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 3: So we have we have three sounds to play. I 285 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 3: sent three sounds to Mikey. Mikey play the first sound 286 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 3: courtesy of Dan Patrick. 287 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 6: But if you're Russ the Bengals need help, you still 288 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 6: want to play. You're playing your way out of the 289 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 6: Hall of fame in some people's hones. 290 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, God, not only did he steal my take 291 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: there he still simmons his take. 292 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 4: I mean, Jesus, some people just say your names. 293 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: Yes. 294 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: So now we have a second take from Tony Gonzalez 295 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: during halftime of the Thursday night football game. Honestly, I 296 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 3: hope we have. 297 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 4: And I say that because just looking at him in 298 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 4: his career, his legacy. 299 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: Like you talked about, if ever there was somebody who 300 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: played himself out of a Hall. 301 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: Of fame, it's Russell Wilson a flatter. 302 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: So if you're wondering, like, man, why does that take 303 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: sound so familiar? The third sound we have is from 304 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. 305 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 4: Wow, a lifetime ago. 306 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: Stass this away in the Something to Ponder file? Has 307 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson played his way out of the Hall of Fame? 308 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: Rank seems to it, Gree no one's ever done. If 309 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: he's just with the commercials. 310 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 4: You mean, nothing to decide now, just something to ponder. 311 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 4: And you know who pondered on that thing for so long? Yeah, 312 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 4: three years Patrick and Tony Gonzalez, and they think three 313 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 4: years had passed. Surely no one will remember who said 314 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 4: it first, but I. 315 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: Can guarantee you when Stu got said that, one of 316 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 3: the people who laughed and dismissed that take if they 317 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: heard it, Dan Patrick, Yeah, ton goal everybody. Everybody laughs 318 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: at the time, and then you know, fast forward three 319 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: years later, Russell Wilson STU saw the vision. Russell Wilson 320 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: has played so bad since twenty twenty two that that 321 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: take has now become mainstream media where people are stealing it. 322 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: I do, though, right, but they won't give me credit 323 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: and listen. I'm not even certain if I should be 324 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: upset with them or not. Like I've stolen so many 325 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: takes over the years. I'm certain I've stolen I've never listened, 326 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest. Never stole something from Tony Gonzales, 327 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: not a single take, but I'm pretty certain I probably 328 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: tuned into Dan Patrick and him or someone said something 329 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: and I carried it into our show. Like I'm pretty 330 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: certain I've done that, So dp we're good, Tony Gonzalez, 331 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: What the fuck are you doing? 332 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 4: What does? What is it? Has anybody ever played themselves 333 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 4: out of the Hall of Fame? Whereas Russell Wilson the 334 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 4: first example of this, because for okay, actually, Taylor, did 335 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 4: you write that or did did ste write that? Back 336 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty two, I wasn't there yet. Oh okay, 337 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 4: so it's still original. Just why to be clear, because 338 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 4: everybody knows. 339 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: Hey, sometimes there's five people on our show, we'll try 340 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: to take credit for it. 341 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure, I mean that's what they do. 342 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 4: But what is that Because if nobody has ever played 343 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 4: themselves out of the Hall of Fame, which I don't 344 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 4: believe is something that should be possible. We can talk 345 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 4: about that to do if you want, but to have 346 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 4: the vision to say the first person ever to play 347 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 4: himself out of the Hall of Fame, and then everybody 348 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 4: else was just like, wow, that motherfucker was a genius. 349 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 4: He was a genius because he knew it three years 350 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 4: ago and it sounded ridiculous. Who could play themselves out 351 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 4: of the Hall of Fame. It's happening, Tony Gonzalez put 352 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 4: a stamp on it, and then realize, oh, it's already 353 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:30,479 Speaker 4: been signed. 354 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I'm wondering, has that Because the problem with 355 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: Russ is he had so much success so early in 356 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: his career, and so you would say after those first 357 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: few years where he went to back to back super 358 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: Bowl should have won back to back Super Bowls. 359 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: Of course he's a Hall of Famer, but since then, woof. 360 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: I mean, he has really tarnished his football legacy at 361 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: just his legacy in general. 362 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: Right. 363 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 3: So I was listening to the Dan Patrick segment. That's 364 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 3: how I heard that initial take at stolen and he 365 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 3: brought up a good point. And I'm gonna mention that 366 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 3: he brought up a good point because I don't want 367 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 3: to I don't want to get blamed for steel on 368 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 3: his take it person. Yeah, yes, that's a good that's 369 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 3: a good point. Is this actually Dan Patrick's original take? Now, 370 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 3: now I'm starting to question it. Russell Wilson and Matthew 371 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 3: Stafford are on like two sides of the coin where 372 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 3: it's like Matthew Stafford playing his way into the Hall 373 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: of Fame because Matthew Stafford accolades two time Pro bowler, 374 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 3: but lately in his career, you know, once he leaves 375 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 3: Detroit going to LA now he's playing himself into the 376 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. Russell Wilson, on the other hand, is 377 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: a ten time pro bowler with the with the same 378 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 3: amount of Super Bowls, but now his his career is 379 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: in a free fall descent. 380 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but he could get back into the Hall 381 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 2: of Fame if he gets it some with the Cincinnati Bengals. 382 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he could it won't happen. 383 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: It would be the rare guy who made the Hall 384 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: of Fame, played himself out of the Hall of Fame, 385 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 2: and then played himself back into the Hall of Fame. 386 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 3: But isn't it all so crazy with the with that 387 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 3: Seahawks Patriots super Bowl. If Russell Wilson just hands the 388 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 3: ball off to Marshawn Lynch and the Seahawks win, We're 389 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 3: not even questioning. 390 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: Nothing else matters. Yes, no super Bowl champion winning quarterback. 391 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 4: Yes, it drives me up a wall because the thing 392 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 4: that Russell Wilson has done that has hurt his legacy 393 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 4: the most is loveball. 394 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: That's it. 395 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 4: He cannot stop playing because even he knows he's not 396 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 4: that good anymore, but he just can't stop. Like if 397 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 4: Joe Montana kept going with the Kansas City Chiefs, It's 398 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 4: just like, guys, I'm only thirty nine, I got plenty 399 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 4: of time left. He would have looked terrible down the stretch. 400 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 4: And I mean those last two years he wasn't great. 401 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 4: I think it was like thirteen to nine touchdown to 402 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 4: interceptions his last year. He didn't look great. So you 403 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 4: can't playing bad at the end of your career. Does 404 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 4: not erase the beginning of your career. You can just 405 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 4: cut it off. That's right there and say, okay, that 406 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 4: in itself, the first two thirds of his career is 407 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame worthy. There's literally nothing he can do 408 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 4: unless he went and found a way to eliminate the 409 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 4: Seahawks franchise altogether. Right, there's nothing he can do to 410 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 4: make those years go away, so he can't play himself 411 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 4: out of the Hall of Fame. I'm sorry, Stude, all right. 412 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 2: So just wait a second here, No need to apologize, 413 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: but just wait a second here, because I want to 414 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: go back to Stafford and Dan Patrick's other take. Mikey, 415 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: when Stafford was playing, If Stafford just stayed in Detroit 416 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: and that was it, do you think Matthew Stafford was 417 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: getting into. 418 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: The Hall of Fame. 419 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. 420 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: So the move to the Rams is what got Stafford 421 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 2: and winning that Super Bowl. Of course, and by the way, 422 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 2: they should not have been in that Super Bowl. Go 423 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 2: back and watch the game against the Bucks in Tampa. 424 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: Stafford through one of the worst passes I've ever seen, 425 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 2: a big spot should have been intercepted. Tom Brady should 426 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: have went back to back Super Bowls. It didn't work 427 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 2: out that way, Stafford boy, and he's going to the 428 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. So you're telling me it took Stafford 429 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: going to the Rams, winning that Super Bowl and having 430 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: a late resurgence here because he's still playing at a 431 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: very high level, that's what got Stafford into. 432 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: The Hall of Fame. Yeah, Okay, that's hard to argue 433 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: it's a good take by Dan. 434 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 4: I mean, if it is, it's a ridiculous take because 435 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 4: what didn't get him into the Hall of Fame before 436 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 4: he got to the Rams was two words, Detroit Lions. 437 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 4: That guy was effing amazing there. Nobody else, I mean, 438 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 4: Calvin Johnson was great, but as a team they weren't 439 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 4: any good. Him putting up like five thousand yards almost 440 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 4: a few times, or one time and then a few 441 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 4: more times putting up forty four hundred plus, Like, that's 442 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 4: a ridiculous quarterback. Clearly in the Hall of Fame. He 443 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 4: just absolutely cemented it with the Rams because the fact 444 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 4: that he's only got two little stars down his stat 445 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 4: sheet absolutely insane. The amount of Pro Bowlers who are 446 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 4: ten times worse than Matthew Stafford who have made more 447 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 4: Pro Bowls in him. I could probably put a list together, 448 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 4: and you'd laugh at how many quarterbacks that made more 449 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 4: Pro Bowls than Matthew Stafford. 450 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 3: Not a Hall of Famer, Detroit Lions Ring of Honor. 451 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 3: And that's what I think. That's what I think Russell 452 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 3: Wilson's trending towards. He's gonna be in the Seahawks Ring 453 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: of Honor, not. 454 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: The Hall of Fame. Yep, Jersey retirement. 455 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 3: A couple of things. 456 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 5: First, Pro Bowls should have nothing to do with it, 457 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 5: because if you look at who made the Pro Bowl 458 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 5: last year, program Mitched Trubisky is a Pro Bowl. So 459 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 5: let's not I mean, guys, go. 460 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: And don't go last year, not last year. 461 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 5: No, last year was even worse. It was somebody from 462 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 5: the from the Ravens that wasn't like twenty twenty two 463 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 5: Snoop Huntley made. 464 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 4: So let's get Pro Bowls out of there. 465 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: Let's let's let's throw that. The second thing, you need 466 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 3: two things to get in the Pro Bowl. You need 467 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 3: to win, and you need numbers. 468 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 4: You need to get in the Hall of Fame or 469 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 4: the program I'm sorry, in the Hall of. 470 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: Fame the Pro Bowl. You just need to have a ball. 471 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to be willing. 472 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 5: You need to not have anything to do that weekend, 473 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 5: but you need numbers and you need winning. Usually what 474 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 5: happens is you win and then you hang around to 475 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 5: keep accumulating numbers. That's what I think Russell Wilson is 476 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 5: trying to do. Stafford did it the other way. Stafford 477 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 5: got so many great numbers. He just racked up stats 478 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 5: playing from behind in Detroit. You know, four thousand yards, 479 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 5: thirty touchdowns every year that he did it in reverse. 480 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 5: Now he's going to get a couple of championships just 481 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 5: to cement it. 482 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: This could be the rare trade where I think you had, 483 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: you know, Jared Goff who was not headed to the 484 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. Now he is, I think, headed to 485 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. And Stafford wasn't a Hall. 486 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: Of Famer, and now we're saying he's just your fire 487 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: hall of famer. Listen, the story has not been written 488 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: entirely yet on Jared. 489 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 4: Goffat you're saying Stafford is wild. 490 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: There's a long way to go. 491 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: For that to happen. He's trending towards being a Hall 492 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: of Famer. 493 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: Listen, if he stayed in LA would he be a 494 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: Hall of would he be trending towards being Hall of Famer. 495 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 5: Listen, I'm trending towards one hundred and fifty pounds. 496 00:23:59,000 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 3: It ain't close. 497 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 4: That's a great question you asked, though, Mikey Bill Belichick. 498 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 4: Is he coaching his way? What does Bill Belichick have 499 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 4: to do? How terrible does he have to make the 500 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 4: North Carolina Tarhill sorry bit the list? 501 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 2: Uh? 502 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 4: How how terrible does he have to make them for 503 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 4: him to play his way out of the Hall of Fame. 504 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 4: In fact, they would just enshrine Tom Brady a second 505 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 4: time because they realized, Jesus Christ, you were doubly responsible 506 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 4: for everything that happened over there. 507 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 5: We'll put him on the periphery of Tom Brady's second statue. 508 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 5: That's that's how Belichick in the shirtless like he's the 509 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 5: one going yay behind Brady lifting the trophy. 510 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: That's his way into the Hall of Fame, standing behind. 511 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 4: Brady, a shirtless bust, try. 512 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 2: To call a play that Brady's gonna ignore. There's nothing 513 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: he could do to get out of the Hall of. 514 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: Fame, is there? 515 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 5: No? 516 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: It was too good. It was too good for too long. 517 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 5: But man, it is sandwich so hard it is sandwiched 518 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 5: around some guard bitch between that run. 519 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: Wait, so you're saying the uh, you're saying the Cleveland Browns. 520 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: This is the bread on the sandwich. The meat is 521 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: is Tom Brady and the Patriots. The bread is North Carolina. 522 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 5: And no, I would say the end of the Patriots 523 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 5: at North Carolina is one part of the bread. And 524 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 5: I would say the beginning of the Patriots and the 525 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 5: Cleveland Browns are the other part of the bread. And 526 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 5: the Brady years that's the meat. 527 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: And the Brady super Bowl in Tampa Bay was the 528 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: icing on the cake. 529 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 4: Yes. 530 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 3: So if we're doing wins loss for this North Carolina team, Clemson, 531 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 3: cow Virginia, Syracuse, I've got I've got zing four there. 532 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: If we're being honest, that takes you to Saturday, November eighth, 533 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 3: verse Stanford back in Chapel Hill. I'll I'll be willing. 534 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 3: That's his Hall of Fame game. If he wins that game, 535 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 3: he's in the Hall of Fame. If he loses to 536 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 3: whatever's left of Stanford and Andrew Luck as their GM 537 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 3: and Frank Right as their head coach, he can't he 538 00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 3: can't go in. 539 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 4: Look, he can't be in the Hall of Fame. It 540 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 4: would be the most boring speech in the history of speeches. 541 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 2: It's amazing of the game you just listed. It's clemsing 542 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 2: the easiest. 543 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: I mean. 544 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: It is time for this week's edition at Studia Gouts, 545 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 2: presented by Fan Duel. All lines here are courtesy of 546 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,239 Speaker 2: the Fan Dual sports book College Football Week five, four 547 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: and three a week ago, twenty eighteen and two. 548 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: On the season, May weekend coming up. 549 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: Got a lot of games for you. We'll start with 550 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: tonight's game. Florida State minus six and a half at Virginia. 551 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: A lot of people feel like this could be a 552 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: trap game for the Florida State seminals. 553 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: I do not. 554 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 2: I think Florida State wins and they cover. Florida State 555 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: by fourteen points on the road. TCU minus two and 556 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 2: a half at Arizona State. 557 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm taking TCU here minus. 558 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: To two and a half. TCU by seven points on 559 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 2: the roads. Houston minus thirteen and a half. 560 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: At Oregon State. Oregon State is bad. 561 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: Houston pretty good, but I have a pretty good team 562 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: playing a man team. I usually take the pretty good 563 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 2: team Houston minus thirteen and a half, buy down to thirteen. 564 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: Houston wins and covers. They win by twenty one points. 565 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: On the road. 566 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: Notre Dame. Easy part of their schedule. They're at Arkansas. 567 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 2: That's a tough one Tugu twister. Minus four and a half. 568 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 2: I am buying it down the four. I'm taking Notre Dame. 569 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: They win. They cover Notre Dame by ten points. On 570 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: the road. 571 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: LSU at Old Miss, big games everywhere on the schedule 572 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 2: this weekend. I'm taking LSU here an they're on the road, 573 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 2: but I believe and Brian Kelly more importantly, I believe 574 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: in LSU's defense. 575 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: They are minus one and a half. They're on the road, 576 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 1: they're at Old Miss. LSU wins and they cover. They 577 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: win by four points on the road. 578 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: Texas A and M. Mike Elcho we love him. He wins, 579 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: he comes back on, he will win. 580 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: They're taking on Auburn, and that means you'll hear from him. 581 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 2: Next peak on the show. Texas A and M. Minus 582 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 2: six and a half. Buy it down to sixth. The 583 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 2: Aggies win by ten points at home Indiana. They're impressive. 584 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 2: They could score Iowa. Not impressive. They can't score Indiana. 585 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: Minus seven and a half. Buy it down to seven. 586 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 2: The Hoosiers win by twenty one points on the road. 587 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: Ucla plus six and a half at Northwestern, buy it 588 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: up to seven. Northwestern should not be a six and 589 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 2: a half point favorite over anyone, anyone ever? 590 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: Ever? Why am I lashing out at my daughter's school? 591 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 2: Anyway, Ucla, they are getting seven points on the road. 592 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 2: They're gonna win the game out right. Ucla by three 593 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 2: points on the road. Penn State big game minus three 594 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 2: and a half. Take it on, Oregon, buy it down 595 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: to three. James Franklin finally wins a big game. This 596 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: is not the big game that James Franklin won't win. 597 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: It's the playoff games he won't win. Those are the 598 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 2: games he won't win. Those games are coming, not this weekend. 599 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: Penn State win. They cover Penn. 600 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: State by eight points over Oregon. 601 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: Alabama at Georgia, Holy shit, what a weekend. Alabama plus 602 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: two and a half. They're taking on Georgia. It's at Georgia, 603 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: Biden up to three. I have Alabama here, heard me right? 604 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: Winning the game out right? Alabama by three points on 605 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: the road. 606 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: And finally, Colorado plus six and a half at home 607 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 2: they're taking on BYU this game if it's played in Provo. 608 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: I take BYU. It's not. 609 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: It's being played at Boulder, Colorado. They cover. I am 610 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 2: BYU winning. Colorado covers BYU by a field goal. They 611 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: cover the spread byde up to seven. NFL Week four 612 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 2: three or two a week ago, ten, ten and one 613 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: on the season. 614 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: Not terrible. I don't know. I feel like I'm the 615 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: what up my shirt? Yeah, I'm Jeff. Thank you. I 616 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: am the Jeff Fisher of picking NFL game. Thank you, Mikey. 617 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: That's the name I was looking for, the exact fucking 618 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: name I was looking for. Here we go. Steelers. They're 619 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: playing in Dublin. They're taking on the Vikings plus two 620 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: and a half. That's a ninth thirty kick off. I'll 621 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: be glued to it. That's a good game. The Steelers 622 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: plus two and a half. You buy it up to three. 623 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: I think Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers win the game outright. 624 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: Steelers win by seven points. The Bills minus fifteen and 625 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,719 Speaker 2: a half. They're taking on the Saints. You don't need 626 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: to buy it down to fifteen. You don't need to 627 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: do anything here. Just take the Bills. They win by 628 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: one hundred points at home over to New Orleans Saint 629 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 2: if they cover the spread. Lions they look good last 630 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: week against the raven They're minus nine and a half. 631 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 2: They're taking on the Browns. I have the Lions winning 632 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: and covering. The Lions win by fourteen points over Cleveland 633 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 2: Rams minus three. 634 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: And a half. 635 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: Take it on the Colts, Daniel Jones. Do it on 636 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: the road in a place that's not Tennessee. Go across 637 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: the country on a bird and play Matthew Stafford in 638 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: the Rams, and then I'll start believing. But until then 639 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: I had taken the Rams. Buy it down to three. 640 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 2: The Rams win by eleven points at home. Weird margin 641 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: minus two and a half at the Chiefs. This used 642 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: to be a big game. 643 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: It's not. They're both one and two. One of them 644 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: is gonna go to one in three. 645 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm saying that the Ravens are the 646 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: better team. 647 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: This is an easy one to me. Ravens win and cover. 648 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 2: The Ravens by fourteen points on the road against Kansas 649 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: City Bears. 650 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, I'm a believer. 651 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: They're taking on the Raiders. Bears minus one and a 652 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 2: half at Las Vegas. The Bears win, They cover the 653 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: Bears by six points on the road, and finally a 654 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: game no one wants to watch. Nobody. It's the Dolphins, 655 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 2: it's the Jets. Both teams are winless, but the Dolphins 656 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: are better. The Jets want to remain winless. They know 657 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: what's at stake. The Dolphins still think they have a chance. 658 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 2: Dolphins minus two and a half they win. They cover 659 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: the Dolphins by fourteen points at home over the Jets. 660 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: Those are the picks everyone good love