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Speaker 1: Every day, wake up the Breakfast Club, finish for y'all.

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Speaker 2: Done morning.

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Speaker 1: Everybody is d j Envy, Charlamagne the gud. We are

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Speaker 1: the breakfast Club. I want to that warning. Everybody is

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Speaker 1: d j Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are

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Speaker 1: the breakfast Club. Law La roses here as well, and

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Speaker 1: we got a special guest in the building. We have Sean.

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Speaker 2: Welcome brother, Good morning, good morning. How you feeling.

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Speaker 1: I am cold, cold man.

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Speaker 2: No, I am Beliez. And this is why when I

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Speaker 2: was here the last time, I was talking about how

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Speaker 2: much Belieze is paradise. And this really underpins why I

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Speaker 2: believe it is paradise. Where you care from Sean?

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Speaker 1: Did you forget them cold Brooklyn days and nights and

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Speaker 1: waiting for the bus and taking the dollar?

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Speaker 2: This is this is beyond brick. Nothing. Nothing existed when

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Speaker 2: I was in Brooklyn at this level.

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Speaker 3: E've never been seven degrees shot.

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Speaker 1: You went to school in snow we're now if it

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Speaker 1: is canceled.

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Speaker 2: School snowing, But I don't remember it being this brick.

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Speaker 2: Oh maybe you know there's a lot of traumas I've

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Speaker 2: you know, buried some of those memories but I don't

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Speaker 2: remember being this call.

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Speaker 1: Well let's start off with saying congratulations. You're about to

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Speaker 1: celebrate the twenty fifth anniversary of the Shine album, and

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Speaker 1: you also have the twenty fifth anniversary world tour, with

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Speaker 1: New York being the first stop.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. The Shine album came out September

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Speaker 2: twenty six, two thousand, so we're in the year of

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Speaker 2: the celebration. It was this September twenty sixth that passed, right.

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Speaker 2: But I was working out my work status here because

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Speaker 2: the last time I was here, I was here as

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Speaker 2: the leader of the opposition, if I recalled. So I

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Speaker 2: was here as a diplomat. But then I had to transition,

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Speaker 2: you know, a workers. I wasn't able to come earlier

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Speaker 2: to start the tour, but you know, we started all

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Speaker 2: of that out and yeah, so now we're gonna perform

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Speaker 2: and celebrate the album, you know, which was a very

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Speaker 2: special album to me, very special album to a lot

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Speaker 2: of people throughout the United States and throughout the world.

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Speaker 2: You know. I was at the the Africa Awards in

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles over the weekend, so African American Film Critics Award,

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Speaker 2: and so Ryan Coogler, who Obviously everybody knows who that is.

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Speaker 2: Broke the records for most Oscar nominations for Sinners, so

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Speaker 2: he was getting a bunch of awards, and so when

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Speaker 2: I saw him, he was like, Yo, you know, we

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Speaker 2: grew up to your music and he's from Oakland. But

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Speaker 2: that just shows you the impact that the Shine album had.

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Speaker 2: And I never got a chance to really, you know,

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Speaker 2: even appreciate my career because the album came out September

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Speaker 2: twenty six, two thousand and by March I was in captivity,

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Speaker 2: so like five months.

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Speaker 1: And you know that's I would love you to discuss, right,

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Speaker 1: So of course that album came out and it was

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Speaker 1: a huge album, right. You had Bad Boys, This Gangster Body,

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Speaker 1: and Shine. Those were the singles off that album.

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Speaker 2: Then you had songs like the Commission. You had songs

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Speaker 2: like N word going. I would kind of change that chorus,

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Speaker 2: but like Pharrell made that record, that's like one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite records. When you hear me perform that at

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Speaker 2: Kingstadar on May second, it's gonna be a movie. But

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Speaker 2: records on the album.

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Speaker 1: My question is you you were huge back then, right,

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Speaker 1: and you got it locked up.

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Speaker 2: You talked about it last.

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Speaker 1: Time you heard the amount of time you spent and

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Speaker 1: when you came out, you changed a lot.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you talked about your change, and you know, you

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Speaker 1: go to Jerusalem and you're reading the taur Rah and

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Speaker 1: then you're getting into politics, right, and then you became

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Speaker 1: the total opposite.

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Speaker 2: In my opinion.

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Speaker 1: And you know of who you were as a young man, right,

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Speaker 1: at one time you were talking gangster ish and shooting

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Speaker 1: and the bad Boys office carrying guns and pulling out

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Speaker 1: all types of nines and blocks and all types of stuff, right,

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Speaker 1: and you can't you changed totally change.

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Speaker 2: You became.

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Speaker 1: A gentleman that was speaking positivity, trying to instead of

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Speaker 1: promote crime, you were against it. You were talking community,

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Speaker 1: trying to get kids off the streets. But the lyrics

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Speaker 1: twenty five years ago. So as shine to change, gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: how do you perform those records?

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Speaker 2: I think you got to listen to those lyrics. If

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Speaker 2: you listen to the America, I'm only what you made me, young,

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Speaker 2: see it in my eyes? Maybe if you would teach

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Speaker 2: me how to do a craft trade, I come off

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Speaker 2: the corner, stop serving at yay, build schools instead of prison.

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Speaker 2: I stop living the way that I'm living. That's that's poetry.

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Speaker 2: That's me crying out for help. That applies today to

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Speaker 2: the NBA Young Boys the same way it applied to

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Speaker 2: Shine back. Then if you listen to you know what

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Speaker 2: you're gonna do when it hit the fan. That's integrity,

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Speaker 2: that's character. That's me talking about. You know, I'm telling

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Speaker 2: my life story and saying that I abide by certain

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Speaker 2: codes and I get my friends in trouble, and you know,

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Speaker 2: being honest to who I am and trying to survive

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Speaker 2: these streets. I don't think my album or my raps

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Speaker 2: I would say. I know, We're never Quentin Tarantino or

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Speaker 2: you know, violent rap. I was talking about my life.

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Speaker 2: I was giving you a dissertation as to what I

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Speaker 2: was always saying this is not what I want to do.

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Speaker 2: I would like to escape this. But when you talk

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Speaker 2: about the performance, people like Ryan Coogler and other people,

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Speaker 2: regular people grew up to my music, and so it's

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Speaker 2: a celebration of that. You know, maybe when I'm performing,

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Speaker 2: there might be a few words that, you know, I'll

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Speaker 2: let the audience say and I wouldn't say. But it's

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Speaker 2: a celebration of the music, of the evolution and art

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Speaker 2: is not to be condemned, right, But it's definitely not

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Speaker 2: as much as what you're saying. If you listen to

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Speaker 2: those those lyrics, it's really telling the story of you know,

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Speaker 2: eighteen year old, nineteen year old that's trying to navigate

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Speaker 2: the muddy waters of you know, what the system created.

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Speaker 2: That's how I remember. And if you go lyric for lyrics,

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Speaker 2: you'll find a lot of you know, please help me.

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Speaker 2: This is not what I really want to do, but

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Speaker 2: this is what I'm doing. I gotta defend myself, you know,

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Speaker 2: I gotta protect myself. That that was the energy that

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Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not judging. Don't think I'm judging

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Speaker 1: you because I grew up to this music. I played

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Speaker 1: his music, I DJ his music. But it's always interesting

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Speaker 1: we seen do it where Mace's you know, talking, you know,

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Speaker 1: can he do those lyrics right? And it's not a judge.

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Speaker 1: It's that when people see people change, they're for it.

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Speaker 1: They agree with it all right. I agree with the

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Speaker 1: change because some people don't have the balls to do it.

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Speaker 1: Some people don't have the haven't evolved to do it.

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Speaker 1: But then when they do it, it's like, that's a

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Speaker 1: going with it. But then when he goes back to

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Speaker 1: you know, fuck y'all niggas, hope you die slow death

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Speaker 1: as I coke tested the Lord's protests, can't fuck with

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Speaker 1: do that? You know what I mean? But then on

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Speaker 1: the other side of like please to my friends that

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Speaker 1: I just and I'm not judging.

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Speaker 2: I'm just out here, but I think I think creativity.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about that in the green room. Creativity

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Speaker 2: is not as simple as you know you just read it.

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Speaker 2: That's a that's a poem. That's a work of art

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Speaker 2: that people love, and this is a celebration of that.

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Speaker 2: And even in my evolved state, I still help artists

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Speaker 2: and believe and I still support artists, you know, whether

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Speaker 2: it's Offset or Quavo, Push your Tea or all these

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Speaker 2: and we talk and I inspire them. I'm not here

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Speaker 2: to tell them, you know, well you shouldn't rap like

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Speaker 2: this or you should rap like that. So, you know,

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Speaker 2: my creative expressions should be studied in Harvard, should be

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Speaker 2: in the museum, then shrining in history. So it's not

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Speaker 2: something that I'm ashamed of. That was a young shine,

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Speaker 2: That's how he felt, that's what he was going through,

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Speaker 2: and he expressed himself. And so celebrating that expression. This

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Speaker 2: You know, these are adults that are going to be

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Speaker 2: in the room celebrating that body of work. Now now,

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Speaker 2: now if you're asking me about my new album, that's

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Speaker 2: not what I'm going to be saying. I would hope not'ing,

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Speaker 2: but but I think I think I think it would

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Speaker 2: be it would be very unfair to deprive uh, you

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Speaker 2: know people that loved that body of work, correct from

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Speaker 2: that celebration. And as I said, there's a way for

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Speaker 2: me to do it, right, I don't. I don't. I

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Speaker 2: don't necessarily need to. You know, there's there's crowd participation, right,

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Speaker 2: so I could you know who want.

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Speaker 1: To you know what I mean, what type of what

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Speaker 2: I thank you, thank you? Lrden.

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Speaker 4: I mean MV has a point though, I mean, but

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Speaker 4: I think you probably got a lot of this even

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Speaker 4: before this tour when you I mean just as a politician.

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Speaker 4: Now with people.

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Speaker 2: Performed, since we've seen them. So the great thing is

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Speaker 2: to wait and see what is Sean gonna do? Is

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Speaker 2: he going to say this the album we saw you

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Speaker 2: in a suit?

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Speaker 1: Can't come?

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Speaker 2: Can I hold on? Hold on? Hold on, my good brother,

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Speaker 2: hold on? Who did it? Who's the first one to

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Speaker 2: do it? With the fitted fitted going in the court

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Speaker 2: with the Gucci suit with the time come on, come on,

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Speaker 2: come on, envy right and look at look at look

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Speaker 2: at my brother again. Jeez, I just saw jiz at

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Speaker 2: ar Basle. But GZ performs his residency right now and right.

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Speaker 2: This is hip hop. There's no there's no one way

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Speaker 2: to be hip hop. And then, you know, I appreciate

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Speaker 2: the question, but I go back to you with the

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Speaker 2: dexterity and the color of hip hop. Hip hop has

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Speaker 2: always been so multifaceted and multi layered. Where Jay Z

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Speaker 2: would be wearing you know, his best suit in corporate America,

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Speaker 2: but then still be talking about, you know, all the

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Speaker 2: drugs that he was trafficking. Right, it was like, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: you can't be in corporate America with the Doug Morrises

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Speaker 2: and the Sylvia Roons and you know whoever else and

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Speaker 2: talk about drug trafficking. No, hip hop always breaks the

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Speaker 2: rules because hip hop is an expression of art and

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Speaker 1: And I think it's dope because I mean, I'm from

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Speaker 3: So speaking of our problem, or do you ask citizenship

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Speaker 2: No more. I'm I'm a one worker, so shordinary ability worker.

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Speaker 2: So are we getting as Yeah, yeah, yeah we You know,

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Speaker 4: There's so much conversation right now around like immigration and

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Speaker 1: But you you were a convicted of convicted fellat here

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Speaker 2: This is what this is what I'm telling you. The

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Speaker 2: So this is not unique to Shine. Anyone that was

433
00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: convicted unless it was murder or torture or you know,

434
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: terrorists activity, anyone can get a waiver, but it's discretionary.

435
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: And that's why I was explaining to you the way

436
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: I conducted myself when I was coming here. It's not

437
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 2: like I was coming here and I was taking advantage

438
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: of taking the opportunity for granted. I built relationships. You know,

439
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: I gave speeches, you know, promoting belize us relations and

440
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: you know, I was a positive role model and I

441
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: continue to be a positive role model even after I

442
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: lost my seat. Uh you know, but so so I

443
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 2: made I made the case and I am an extraordinary

444
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 2: ability worker. You know, I was nominated for Grammys, I

445
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: won Grammy, you know, sold over forty million records and

446
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 2: I'm still relevant. I put out a number one documentary

447
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: with Walt Disney. You know, I got you know, distribution

448
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 2: deals with you know, the major record labels. Right, So yeah,

449
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: it's it's a little bit different, right, But you know,

450
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 2: to the person that's there that made a mistake, never

451
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: give up. And you know, you live your life and

452
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: you rebuild yourself, you rehabilitate and you know there is

453
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: a waiver, right and you just have to have faith.

454
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: And for those that have an opportunity to be here,

455
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: you know, don't take it for granted because there are

456
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 2: a lot of people that were like this opportunity.

457
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 4: What would you say to people and I've seen you

458
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 4: talk about, you know, your relationship or lack they're of

459
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 4: with Diddy, But what would you say to people who

460
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: feel like you're finally getting kind of like, I mean,

461
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 4: the support that a lot of people didn't give you

462
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 4: back when the child was happening because Diddy was like

463
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 4: the mega superstar. But now people see him in a

464
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 4: different light, so people are more kind of open to

465
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 4: hearing anything that doesn't make him like this big, mega

466
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 4: perfect person.

467
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: Well, didd he's not really interrelated with anything that I'm

468
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: doing right now. I think that I've been able to

469
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: build my legacy and I've always had the support of

470
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 2: the hip hop community. There was a point where, like

471
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: the hip hop community, you remember, they kind of hated

472
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: Diddy when I went away and they didn't want anything

473
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: to do with him. But you know, being the Charlottan,

474
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: the very convincing person that he is, he knows how

475
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: to get everybody you know back in line. But I've

476
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: always had support, you know, throughout my incarceration. You know,

477
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: jay Z was coming to Rikers Island on the mayback,

478
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 2: you know when IRV God he God bless his soul,

479
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: was at the height of his power and murder inc

480
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 2: they all came up there to try to sign me Nash.

481
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: You know doctor Dre. I was just talking, uh to

482
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: my guy Monie Helly, who was managing Keisha, Cole and

483
00:27:55,280 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 2: Future and a bunch of you know, superstars. But yeah,

484
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 2: so he when he first discovered Keisha, it was between

485
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 2: him and Doctor Dre because Doctor Dre had this new

486
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: kid called the Game, and they wanted a verse from

487
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 2: Shine and Manny, who I came up with Off flat Bush,

488
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,239
Speaker 2: my guy we started in the cradle. He wanted the

489
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: record for his artists, but everybody wanted to Shine record,

490
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: but it only could be one, and I gave it

491
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: to Manny because of our brotherhood. So I wouldn't say that.

492
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: You know, people people always embrace Shine. And when I

493
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: came out, remember I did, I did. I did a

494
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: deal while I was away went number one again despite

495
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: remember and and you know I did the I don't

496
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: know if Double XL people remember Double XL the death

497
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: before the sign and cover and the most hip hop

498
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: most wanted cover, and I was always telling people who

499
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: did he But the irony, I guess, is just that, well,

500
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: now you know every everything had everything, well everything has

501
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: collapsed and every and the curtain has been removed, and

502
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: now it's like it's, you know, irrefutable for most people

503
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: everything that I said back then, But then for me,

504
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: it's like I'm gone. It's like you know Parrel and

505
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: the clips, you know, respect to them on that great

506
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: album where you know that record where he says, I'm

507
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: so I'm so far gone, like I'm you know, as

508
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: soon as they wanted, I don't want it no more.

509
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: I'm somewhere else. So it's like for me, I'm not

510
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: I'm not there.

511
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to say glad right, well, are you

512
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: glad God sat you down when he did, seeing that

513
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: everything that happened out of it, because you know, when

514
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: it happened, I know you probably was f the world.

515
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: But now when you see all less, you think to yourself, damn,

516
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: I could have been maybe not part of it, but

517
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: in the mix of it.

518
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: Well, I definitely wasn't going to be a part of

519
00:29:59,400 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: this part of.

520
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: It, I said, and he makes it, you know, I mean,

521
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: you ever look back up like damn. Maybe that was

522
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: the reason why I sat down.

523
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's tough, man. You know, all

524
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: the pain that my mom been through. I wouldn't wish

525
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: incarceration on anybody. I don't wish that on Diddy. You know,

526
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: I pray for him, but I don't want to take

527
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: away from from the victims in his case and the

528
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: justice that they want. But it's not something that you know,

529
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: I would ever wish on my worst enemy. So I definitely,

530
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: I'm just grateful to have been able to endure what

531
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: God had planned for me the journey and I made

532
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: I made choices. I made a choice to defend myself,

533
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: and that came with consequences. So I hope that I

534
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: could be a deterrent to young people out there and

535
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: to people out there in general, think before you make

536
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: a choice, or they're going to be consequences. I chose

537
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: to defend myself. I don't shy away from that. The

538
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: one of the people that were injured, she came forward

539
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, said, oh explicitly it was Diddy

540
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: that shot her, not Shine. If she would have said

541
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 2: that in two thousand and one, I would have probably

542
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: beat my case and and you know they would have

543
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: accepted my defense claim. But no, I could never say

544
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: that I'm glad that the difficult, painful things happened to me,

545
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: but I am I'm grateful that I was able to

546
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: endure those difficulties because endurance is what leads to greatness.

547
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: So anybody that's listening right now, and so many of

548
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: us are going through things at the Oscar level, at

549
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: the janitor level, at the intern level, whatever you're going through,

550
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: if you can just endure, if you can just have

551
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: to stammina to keep going, the greatness is at the

552
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: end of that journey.

553
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: That was rumored that they asked you to be part

554
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: of the Diddy doc.

555
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: You know, I saw I saw Alex that directed the film.

556
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: That's her name.

557
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know it was Alex because I heard

558
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 4: Remember I hit you and I'm like, hey, what happened?

559
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: And I told you I'm coming out with a new album,

560
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: and you ain't say that. Listen. She wanted to scoop right,

561
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: So I'm like, listen, you know I'm coming out with

562
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: a new album, new to all that I'm thinking she

563
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: gonna go back. Well, Lissa Sean said he working on

564
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: a new album, but he gonna, you know, pop up

565
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: on the stret I wanted you to say that.

566
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know.

567
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 4: I thought you were saying that like when the time

568
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 4: is right.

569
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know you wanted me to.

570
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, you gotta.

571
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: Be specific with me. You got didn't reach out, but.

572
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: She said she did. But I tell you that, I

573
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: tell you honestly, I'm so focused on me and believe

574
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: and all the great things that are before me. Uh,

575
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: if you look at it, when the things started happening

576
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: to Diddy, I was never talking to the American media.

577
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: There's this degenerate journalist and believe I won't mention his

578
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: name and give him any spotlight, but he's the one

579
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: that was working for my ops in my political party,

580
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: trying to tear me down, and so he would always

581
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: come with these gotcha questions and want to incite and

582
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: want to, you know, paint me like I had. I

583
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: was incarcerated, I was deported. I had nothing to do

584
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: with with this. You know, this guy already ruined my life.

585
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: You're trying to ruin my life again. I had nothing

586
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: to do with that, and so I would have to

587
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: as an elected official, I would have to answer those questions.

588
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: But I never jumped into the situation. When it came

589
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: to the American media, so I would get, you know,

590
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: expressions of interest from NBC, ABC, CNN, TMZ, Wall Street Journal, everybody,

591
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: and I would decline because I just wasn't interested in

592
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: participating in that. So Alex says she did reach out

593
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: to me. She probably did, but I saw her congratulations her.

594
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: She was nomine for a Director's Guild Award over the weekend,

595
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: so I saw at the DJA ceremony congratulations to her.

596
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: I didn't see the documentary, but I heard that its great,

597
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: as powerful as this award winning worthy. I you know,

598
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: they I heard I was in the documentary even though

599
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: I didn't speak. But obviously they told the truth about

600
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: what I've been saying, so nothing that I'm saying is

601
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: different than what I've said before. But I didn't watch

602
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: it because I I just that's my trauma. So so

603
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: without getting into what he did to Cassie and what

604
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: he did to all the other people that have accused him,

605
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 2: and I see that like, there's some people are saying, oh, well,

606
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: you know, well Cassie, Cassie wanted it all. Yeah, she

607
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: that's what she signed up for. You know, we all

608
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: can't be wrong, right, So it's like, I know what

609
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: he did to me as far as sending me to prison.

610
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: He was one of the most powerful people in the world,

611
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 2: and he used his money and his power to make

612
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: sure that witnesses lied. People went in there not to

613
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: say listen, Sean was defending did he because we I

614
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: owned up to having the weapon. There was no dispute

615
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: to that, but it was a matter of self defense,

616
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 2: and he had the power to make sure that if

617
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: people went in there, they told the truth, and Sean

618
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 2: was defending all of us. He didn't do that. He

619
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: said listen, somebody gotta go down. And he wasn't a gentleman.

620
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 2: He didn't say listen, listen, cop out, or this is

621
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: how we're gonna do it. I'm gonna make sure family

622
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 2: good for life. You're good for life, but we need

623
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: you to take this hit. No, he was like, you're

624
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: gonna take the hit because the DA was offered me

625
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: thirteen years so I couldn't even get a reasonable plea

626
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: and then I think the judge offered me like seven years.

627
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 2: But I say all that to say what he did

628
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 2: to me, I would never do to another human being.

629
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: Worst thing in the world to send somebody to prison,

630
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 2: So I could imagine all these other things that people

631
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 2: are saying. But his celebrity is so loud, was so loud,

632
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: and you could still see it creeping in sometimes because

633
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: you see people come out and start attacking the victims.

634
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: It was the same thing that kind of happened to me,

635
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: where after a certain point people are like, shut up,

636
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: we don't want to hear about that. You know, let's party,

637
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 2: let's drink some rock. So I don't want to. I

638
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: don't want to. I don't even want to talk about that.

639
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: But but but I respect my responsibility to you, to

640
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: the audience, to you know, when you text me, I

641
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: told you when I come up here, you can ask

642
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: me what.

643
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 4: And that's why I didn't mention anything, because I felt

644
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 4: like it was unfair to bring you into that conversation

645
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: because we're reported on dating his documentary and it's like, oh,

646
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 4: will shine in new music. So when you said you

647
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 4: were willing to come and talk, I was like, all right,

648
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 4: I make sure it happens so that you can have

649
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 4: your own conversation about Yeah.

650
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: Good, I like, like, I do.

651
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 4: Have one more question. You want to kind of move

652
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 4: past that stuff. But I know when you dropped the

653
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 4: honorable Shine documentary, did his team has sent you that

654
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 4: he's in decision trying to stop it? Right?

655
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: They said that the Disney ain't no better than to

656
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 2: send me foolishness like that. But yeah, you know, congratulations

657
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 2: to my god Jason Adu over there at Disney and Scape.

658
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: He was he got the Vanguard Award at the Africa ceremony. Yeah,

659
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: you know, the documentary was great, number one, one of

660
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 2: one of the most successful documentaries that Disney ever put out.

661
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: And I told my story. I didn't tell the Diddy story,

662
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: you know. Respect to Alex and and and to fifty,

663
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 2: you know, congratulations to them. That was the story that

664
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: that they told on behalf of the victims. And in

665
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: all fairness, I see a lot of people attacking fifty,

666
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 2: trying to bastardize the legitimate pain and suffering of those victims.

667
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: But without fifty, Alex might have had a hard time

668
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: with her project. And yes, the enemy of my enemy

669
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: is my friend. But you know, they did the same

670
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: thing to me. Everybody was like, yo, shut up, you know,

671
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: let's drink the rock, right, Even people that respected me

672
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: and loved me, they was like, damn, Seane, you putting me,

673
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 2: you know, like, Yo, Diddy's the man, he's Michael Jackson,

674
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: Like what you want us to do? Right? So I

675
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: feel the pain of the victims, Cassie in particular, and

676
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: everyone that went through what they went through. But I

677
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: didn't want to tell the Diddy story. So that's the

678
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 2: beautiful thing about my documentary, the documentary The Honorable Shine.

679
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 2: If you haven't seen it, go see it on Hulu.

680
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: That's the Shine story. And he just happens to be

681
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: a footnote in that because that's a part of the story.

682
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: And Disney will tell you. I let them do what

683
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 2: they're supposed to do, because documentaries are supposed to have

684
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: the utmost integrity, and I'm not supposed to be in

685
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: there saying, oh, I want this out, I want that in.

686
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: And I was busy with the legislator, so I made

687
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 2: myself available. I opened up as much as I could

688
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: and provided my family, and I didn't see it until

689
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: it was done. Saw it twice so that's why I said,

690
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: so if I only saw my own documentary twice, I'm

691
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: definitely not watching the Diddy documentary to traumatize myself. There's

692
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: nothing I could gain from that. Everything that anybody could

693
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 2: say I know to be a fact, right, even if

694
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: it's not a fact, I know, I know the potential

695
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: and the same way nobody wanted to believe me, I'm

696
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 2: not going to be that person and disbelieve those things.

697
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to give them the benefit of that. I'm

698
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: sorry because he did it to me. So I'm not hating.

699
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: I don't want him to be in a position he's in,

700
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: but I know what he's capable of. I think when

701
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: I was in Atlanta, I did an interview with my

702
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 2: guy Tigger, and I said, and I repeat it, I

703
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: pray that did he rehabilitates, that he reforms. He should

704
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 2: Maybe he should be glad that God sat him down

705
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 2: because maybe he was on the verge of odin on

706
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: those drugs and whatever else it is that he's doing.

707
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: So maybe this is a blessing for him that he

708
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 2: didn't get that rico because if you look because if

709
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: you look at the charges, there was a case there

710
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: for Rico. So he's very blessed. But I just hope

711
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: that he he is able to because I reform, I rehabilitate,

712
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: even though I was defending myself, but there was a

713
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: lot going on as young he and I had to

714
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: make sure that I never put myself on my family

715
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: in that position again. And so to this day, you know,

716
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: it's not uh tried by twelve or carried by six.

717
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 2: I just let the Lord take me because I'm not

718
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not gonna do that to my family,

719
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: not gonna do that to my daughter. And so my

720
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 2: whole mind, my whole everything has changed. I just bring

721
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: so much positivity and great energy to the planet, and

722
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: that's what I pray for him. So it's not that

723
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: I'm condemning him that I wish he got de Rico.

724
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 2: I wish he does his entire time. I just hope

725
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: that when he returns to the streets, that you know,

726
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: he can return with a genuine transformation and dedicate the

727
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: rest of his life, you know, to making people's lives

728
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: better and and to healing and you know, making a

729
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: positive contribution.

730
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: What's one thing that's misunderstood about Sean?

731
00:41:54,600 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 2: I think the most difficult thing for me, I I

732
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 2: would say is in Belieze, not necessarily here in the States.

733
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 2: I think here in the States, I started off kind

734
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 2: of as the Diddy protege, but then I was able

735
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: to break through that uh you know, with the with

736
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 2: the number one album while I was incarcerated and becoming

737
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: a larger than life figure and then going to Belize

738
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: and getting elected to the House and doing things that

739
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: are just unprecedented for hip hop. No person, no rapper

740
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: now R and B has ever made it to the

741
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: House of Representatives, and definitely not the leader of the

742
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 2: opposition in the House of Representatives. But my I think

743
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: the one thing I would focus on is in Belize,

744
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: you know, which is all being taken care of now

745
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: by the grace of God. But my political enemies used

746
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: to say that, oh, I'm a deep Orte. I'm a

747
00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: criminal forgetting the Grammys, forgetting that. You know, I wrote

748
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 2: and produced and published over forty million albums with Usher,

749
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: with Lil Wayne, Notorious, Big Puff, Daddy Mace. But they

750
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 2: would just equate me to a deep Portea criminal. And

751
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 2: I'll never forget. When I first signed my record deal

752
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety eight, I bought my platinum Rolex. I

753
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: bought a big chain diamond plate and I got on

754
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: the plane to go to Belize. Believes was always a

755
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: part of me, Like my mom still speaks believes and

756
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: she can't even speak a proper sentence of English, where

757
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: like we love believes so much. I used to go

758
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 2: to Belize every summer. So it hurt me if any

759
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: and I'm like a duck, you know, water it usually

760
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: just flows off my back. But if one thing so

761
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: misunderstood and hurt was when people would try to deny

762
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: me my patriotism and my love for my country, and

763
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: then my integrity because it's like I'm shine, like I

764
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 2: sat and for ten years because of character and integrity.

765
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: I'm not that guy. I'm not that guy at fronts

766
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: that says one thing and does the other thing. Like

767
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: I didn't do that for Diddy because he was he

768
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: was trying to crush me. I did that for me

769
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: and for what I believe in and for the people

770
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: that believed in me. So yeah, that's the one thing

771
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: that was misunderstood that I was only in believed because

772
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: I was deep deported and I had to be and believed.

773
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: I didn't want to be in beliezing. So I got

774
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 2: involved in politics so I could get back to America

775
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 2: and and and watch watch when you get back to America,

776
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: you're not gonna come back. So the best thing, that's

777
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: why I say, God is so great, So the best

778
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: thing is going back. So I come here for a

779
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: couple of weeks and I worked, and I can't turn back.

780
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: It's not even turning on me. It just feels good

781
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: to to prove people wrong. And for the people that

782
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: believed in me, because a lot of people that believe

783
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: in me and believes and to vindicate them for them

784
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: to feel good. And then becoming the prime minister of

785
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: a country, you know, the current prime minister of Belize

786
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: as much as him and I, you know, I used

787
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: to used to be me. I used to go against

788
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: his whole team's twenty six of them. Sometimes it's one

789
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: of me and the House of Representatives. I shut it down.

790
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: The Speaker of the House got to close down the

791
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: House of Representative. They throw me out. But I have

792
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 2: a lot of respect for him because he's been there

793
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: for thirty years. He's you know, I think maybe late fifties,

794
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: early sixties, and so he was a ararepresentative he was

795
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: a deputy prime minister and then he became the Prime minister.

796
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: And that's what I talk about, endurance and stamina. And

797
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 2: then he got his time. People criticize and people say

798
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: he's not the best this, he's not the best at

799
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: but he got his time. I'm gonna get my time.

800
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: But I got to go through my journey. So part

801
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: of my journey is building the relationship with the people

802
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: of beliefs. So I got to go through the hits.

803
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 2: Oh he's a deport Oh he's a criminal. Oh he

804
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: don't love believes Oh he only there prove him wrong.

805
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 2: So then those same people are going to be like, yeah,

806
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 2: all right, and continue to have the conversation about policy,

807
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: about education, How we can you know, provide you know,

808
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: student student loans, we don't even have student loans, and beliefs,

809
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: you know, how we could develop the economy, how we

810
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 2: could develop you know, the tourism industry. I think the

811
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: Tourism Minister is one of the best tourism ministers that

812
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: we've ever had. And he's on the other side of

813
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: the political divide. We're opponents, but so so that's the

814
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: one thing. But it's a good thing because I get

815
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 2: to prove people wrong, and I get to build relationships

816
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 2: with people because I don't hold grudges. I'm not malicious, right,

817
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: So so now people could see so we could get

818
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: past that and we could get to policy. And that's

819
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 2: how I become the Prime Minister one day, because now

820
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: I would have shown them everything, all that they said

821
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 2: about me, I would have disproved, and I could come

822
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 2: to them with a genuine plan to change their lives

823
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 2: and improve things and beliefs, which is what do you

824
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: feel like?

825
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: They maybe felt like that at that time because you

826
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: didn't pop as an artist over there and belieze, but

827
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 3: you came in, you know, you hanging with the New Yorkers,

828
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: and I.

829
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: Think politics, I think politics had a lot to do

830
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: with it. You know, my father was the Prime Minister

831
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 2: of beliefs. But my father and I couldn't be more different.

832
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 2: We don't agree on most policies, and he wasn't involved

833
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 2: in my life. He had nothing to do with me

834
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: selling over forty million records my mom and I'm my

835
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 2: mother's son. Respect to him, you know, him and I

836
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: we have a cordial relationship. There's no ill will. But

837
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: I took a lot of hits and believes because of him, right,

838
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: And I never got anything from him. You know, he

839
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: has another son who has benefited tremendously from you know,

840
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: him being prime minister, but that wasn't me. Are you

841
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: close with your brother, are you no?

842
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 4: No?

843
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are his children, my mother's only son. But

844
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: I'm just saying so, I think a lot of it

845
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: had to do with you know, him being prime minister

846
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: for thirteen years, benefits that came to you know, his

847
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: son and other people, and so they took that out

848
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: on me. And I didn't get nothing. When I say nothing,

849
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: not ten right, even going to the House of Representatives.

850
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 2: He had nothing to do with that. As far as

851
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 2: planning that or saying to me, son, I think you

852
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 2: should follow on my footsteps. I decided to do that.

853
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: I decided to return to Believe and offer myself to service,

854
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 2: and I put my money into that. Open the resource center.

855
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: You know, when my friends would come to Belieze with

856
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 2: professors or entrepreneurs, have them speak to the people in Mesopotamia.

857
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: But don't get me wrong, I don't want to be ungrateful.

858
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 2: There were people, the same people that ended up overthrowing me,

859
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: that felt a deportee and a criminal should not be

860
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: involved in politics, right, So on that end, as the

861
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: leader of the party, you know, he and others were like, nah,

862
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: that's that's crazy, Like, you know, he didn't do anything,

863
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 2: and believe that was an American and we all know

864
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 2: that he took the fall, but I think he should

865
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: have did that for anybody that you know was in

866
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: that situation. We have a person right now that was

867
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: a former leader of the party that just got arrested

868
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: and he's a senator. He got arrested for assaulting the police.

869
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: He got arrested for assaulting a woman with a hammer.

870
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 2: He did all types of things and everybody was okay

871
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: with that. So I'm saying that wasn't like a father

872
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: son thing. I think that was just the right thing

873
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 2: to do. But I take a lot of heat for

874
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: you know, the prime minister serving thirteen years, got no benefits,

875
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: not that he should have given me anything, but a

876
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: lot of people claim he gave his other son everything.

877
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,479
Speaker 2: But that's okay, right, but.

878
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 3: That you looking for his validation and turn into war politics.

879
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 2: You know, as a child, you always wanted your father. Yeah,

880
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: and then when I became successful, as you know, my

881
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: first album, million records. So even before I went in

882
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: most famous believing ever, most successful commercial belising ever, then

883
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, everybody recognized. And even like I said,

884
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: I don't want to throw him under the bus. We

885
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 2: have policy differences, we agree to disagree. It's an agreeable relationship.

886
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: But I'm I'm past that right I'm at a place

887
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: where you know, my daughter is my life, Believe is

888
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 2: my life, helping believeance, and I have everything at my

889
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: disposal to be able to do everything that I want

890
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: to do. So I don't you know, it's not about Diddy,

891
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: it's not about Pops, it's not about nobody. God has

892
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 2: given me all the tools, a great team, you know,

893
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 2: people like Stephen Victor, Stephen, Carlos, Don Pooh Manny, you

894
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 2: know Smithy for Seane. After all this, I think we

895
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: I think we passed redemption right now, it's like what

896
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 2: does what does? What does you know? This great future

897
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: of belize and you know, creating more art. It's celebration time.

898
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 2: That's why I really said the twenty fifth anniversary celebration time,

899
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 2: because we got past like all the other stuff and

900
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 2: now celebrate like you know, like I'm making it listen

901
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 2: like my brother. You know, the last thing I did

902
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: was watched the Super Bowl with Doctor Dre like quiet,

903
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: no pictures, no nothing. Do you know what? Do you

904
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: know what it is to be able to to come

905
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 2: to l A and be like, yo, I'm in your

906
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: City of Angels and pull up right and he got

907
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 2: some incredible beats, trust me, the Doctor agent timelessly. That's

908
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 2: a great place to be. Like, right, if I go

909
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: to Miami, I'm gonna go to Miami in a few weeks.

910
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go see Khalid. You know, see my guy Russian.

911
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 2: I know, you know we're in New York. So all

912
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 2: the Caribbean they know who Russian is. Russian he got

913
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: that thing from my album ce J the Chemists, the

914
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 2: Caribbeans know who that is. That's that's that's Brooklyn. No, no, no,

915
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: that's that's Brooklyn. That's that's Brooklyn. That's my guy. He

916
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: just they just grabbed him Chronic Law and Armani and

917
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 2: you know, the Caribbeans know who that is. But anyway,

918
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm in such a great place that all

919
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 2: the people that that I love and admire love and

920
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 2: admire me. And so I'm making an album from there,

921
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 2: like DJ Toons and the Starboy Collective, whizz Kid. When

922
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: I was when I when I was, you know, when

923
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 2: I was in la at Lennis respect to my good

924
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 2: brother Lennis. Those the best parties ever. So he had

925
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: a Grammy after party. I hear DJ Toons is at

926
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 2: the party. I go to the turntables like oh Yo, Shine,

927
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 2: like and and and the song he got right now

928
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: with Marvel and whiz Kid. That's my favorite song. And

929
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 2: we're working right there. He's sending me stuff. That's a

930
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 2: great place to be, right Like, I don't need nobody

931
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: to do nothing because everybody embraces shine and love shine

932
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: and they celebrate shine, and so we're celebrating so thank God. Right,

933
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 2: So so we look forward to using this to get

934
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: more people to come to Belize. Last time I was saying,

935
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: you said you come in, you still ain't reached.

936
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: This year, I went to Dominica. But we're gonna get

937
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: out there. I'm gonna bring the family.

938
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: Be a politician this year.

939
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: With Dominica, I had to go Dominica. That's where my

940
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: father is from, so I had to go here first.

941
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: But we're gonna make a stand.

942
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: But that's never been a belize.

943
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: I think I might have did something that long. I

944
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: love it, but I got to get back.

945
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 2: But that's that's what's on the horizon man, to be

946
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: able to put these projects out and you know, everything

947
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 2: I do, I'm gonna always talk about believe and just

948
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: celebrating from a great space of positivity.

949
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 4: It seems like in a good space.

950
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, so May second, May second King Steady.

951
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: King in Brooklyn, Shawn, we appreciate you for joining us

952
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: and thank you for answering.

953
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 2: All the questions.

954
00:54:52,640 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: All right, yes, question it's on the Just go to

955
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: king dot com. I'm sure they got a place. Is like, look,

956
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: I'm tired of ask about the Lauren. If you're gonna

957
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: d m me talk about my content, damn it, talk

958
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: about my damn it.

959
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 2: We're talking about listen, not that not that you you

960
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 2: going back on tour for the money.

961
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: Right, I ain't even know.

962
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: He's had the best questions.

963
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: Then you got to ask these people think.

964
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 2: So, you know, would somebody think that it's not like

965
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm out here stunting. I'm like, listen, I take the

966
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 2: train like I'm a regular guy. Like it's not like

967
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 2: I think if people it's not like I'm fronting like

968
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 2: I'm out here, front like I got a hundred millions,

969
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 2: and you heard something.

970
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: The first thing that people say is, well, why did

971
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: they come back?

972
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: You know, especially when I never got a chance.

973
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: But last time you said, he was like, I don't

974
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 1: want to because.

975
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 2: I was in the legislator. I was in the legislator. No, no, no,

976
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 2: But I'm still the whole I got. I got the

977
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 2: I got the Polo crest On, but I still got

978
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 2: You know what I mean by on the tray?

979
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: Shut up?

980
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: It's the breakfast club.

981
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: Good morning.

982
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 4: Hold up, every day I wake click your glass up,

983
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 4: the breakfast Club.

984
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 2: You're finished for y'all done. I