1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Danny Surrek joins me, 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: which means time to review the latest Hard Knocks in 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: Season episode. A lot of good natured ribbing among teammates 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: in this one, especially between JJ Watt and Zavian Collins. Hey, 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: I think we all needed to smile a little bit. 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: Plus plenty of quarterback news Kyler Murray, Cult McCoy, David 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: blow All in the headlines. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: six thirty three, and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: Cover two, hitting the backfield and Downey goes for a loss, 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: JJ Watt and nailed it. Cardinals Cover two is presented 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: by Hyunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by 12 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Easy Cardinals dot com slash podcasts. 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's in again, 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: so for Harry Magic. WHOA, here's Craig grielou. So here's 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: why I liked this most recent episode of Hard Knocks 16 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: and Season. I haven't been able to say that in 17 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: recent weeks, just because of the outcome on Sunday, and 18 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: that of the outcome Danny didn't change on Sunday Cardinals 19 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: still lost on the road in Atlanta. But I smiled 20 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: a lot during this episode. Maybe it's just me, but 21 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: I had a smile a couple of chuckles. I enjoyed 22 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: the behind the scenes, good natured ribbing that you see 23 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: or what we you don't see in the locker room 24 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: and out on the playing field, I felt the same way. 25 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: I really liked this episode. And we've had a lot 26 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: of JJ Watt understandably so, and that's what this episode 27 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: really was focused on. I'm sure the next one as well, 28 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: after JJ announced his retirement after the last game of 29 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: the season, but it felt different. We got to see 30 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: JJ as a person early on maybe the second episode, 31 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: going on a walk with his wife and his son, 32 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: and the typical behind the scenes get to know you 33 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: that Hard Knocks normally does. But for some reason, this 34 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: just felt very authentic for JJ, of him joking around 35 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: with his teammates and the coaches and talking about his 36 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: decision to retire after the season, and I really enjoyed it. 37 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed getting to see his relationship with Zaven 38 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: Collins because we don't get to see that a lot. 39 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: It's a lot of JJ and Zach Allen. A lot 40 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: of JJ and Cam Thomas we've seen, so getting to 41 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: see Zaven Collins in there I really enjoyed. And I 42 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: felt the same about the game. And I don't know 43 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: if that was because fourth quarterback and four weeks for 44 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, but I really liked getting to see David 45 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: Blow kind of prepare and really only having one day 46 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: to do so, in the composure that he had, and 47 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: hearing Cliff Kingsbury talk about how smart Blow was and 48 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: how he was leading the offense and how he kept 49 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: this team in the game. I agree. Despite the fact 50 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: that twenty twenty three started the same way twenty twenty 51 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: two ended with a Cardinal loss sixth straight. Now I agree, 52 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: it felt a little different. I enjoyed this episode. I 53 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: know we'll talk about our favorite parts later. But if 54 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: you happen to be listening before you watch the episode 55 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, or you didn't watch all the way through, 56 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: you need to watch until the very very end of 57 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: this episode. Good tease, because I do want to bring 58 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: that up. But first and foremost, we found out why 59 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: exactly J. J. Watt is retiring, why he made the 60 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: announcement when he did, why this season is his final season. 61 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: Did you catch the little subtlety in this most recent episode. 62 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: The true reason, of course, Tony cheek obviously, but the 63 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: true reason, Oh gosh, you put me on the spot. 64 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: Tell me. The last two games are the final two 65 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: stadiums that he will play in to make it a 66 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: full to complete his career. He had never played at 67 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: Mercedes Benz Stadium, and then this coming week he gets 68 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: to play at Levis Stadium for the first time. Which 69 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: it's it's it's amazing, and it's just again it's just happenstance. 70 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: But it was brought up a couple of different times 71 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: during the episode, and you're thinking, it's like, you've been 72 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: in this league twelve seasons, You've never been at Levi Stadium, 73 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: You've never played at the I mean, it's it's another 74 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: remarkable little check mark underneath his resume that you can 75 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: go through the entire league now and say you have 76 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: played in every single stadium that's certainly current to twenty 77 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: twenty two. Yeah, pretty crazy. It's taking up until the 78 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: very end. I do like that, even though it's not, 79 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, the Grand Tour exit that some players do 80 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: not just some football and e sport of Hey, this 81 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: is gonna be my last season. We're all at the 82 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: right carpet everywhere you go. I do like that JJ 83 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: gets at least two games of people knowing. And I 84 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: liked seeing the different referees and the players and coaches, 85 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: whether he'd played with or against them before, just going 86 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: out of their way to make sure not only like 87 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: a great career, but saying thank you for being the 88 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: ambassador you've been for football. Like I I'm very glad 89 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: that JJ. We talked about one. He is going out 90 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: playing great football, he's healthy, but to also get some 91 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: of that recognition, and I'm happy for him in that 92 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: regard as well. And then you hear Falcon's head coach 93 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith tell him during a break in action quote, 94 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you're retiring just because it's and 95 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: again that's the feeling if you don't have JJ Watt 96 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: on your team because as an offensive hone, it or 97 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: an offensive coach number ninety nine very difficult to defend. 98 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: Even in this final season, he's playing his best football 99 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: since twenty eighteen. He's going out the way he wants 100 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: to go out, And that was something Cameron Thomas talked 101 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: about in the bubble during a walkthrough practice. I hope 102 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: that I can go out my way just like JJ 103 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: Watt is going out his way, and that's not every 104 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: player gets that, regardless of sport. Very interesting perspective to 105 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: see it that way that you're right now, a lot 106 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: of players get to have that choice, whether that's because 107 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: they can't seem to find a team to stick around on, 108 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: whether that's because of injury, whatever it might be. It's 109 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: it's a big accomplishment to play as long as JJ 110 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: has twelve years and to be able to walk away 111 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: on his own for no other reason than you know, 112 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: he wants to kind of prioritize other parts of his life. 113 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: It's fun to be able to say that you got 114 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: to cover be around a Hall of Fame player, a 115 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: future Hall of Famer. I had the opportunity a few 116 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: years back. I'm dating myself here, but Emma Smith wore 117 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: a Cardinals uniform once upon a time, played well with 118 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. He didn't walk out like Willie Mays 119 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: with the New York Mets, with a team that you 120 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: don't associate with their entire career. And JJ Watt two seasons, yeah, 121 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: last season was cut short by injury, but he came 122 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: back for that playoff game. He wanted to be on 123 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: that field, and he's walking out potentially with another sack, 124 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: maybe more another quarterback to bring down, which would be 125 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: fifty regular season and postseason if he's able to get 126 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: brock Purty this Sunday. So I feeled myself fortunate to 127 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: say that not only did I get to watch him 128 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: in real time, but to be able to cover him 129 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: as well. Absolutely, he is I feel like you learn 130 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: a lot when you talk to him and JJ, and 131 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: he'll tell you he knows when it's time to turn 132 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: it on, and he can be very serious about everything, 133 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: whether you know, not just playing the game, but in 134 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: terms of talking about the game and talking to the media. 135 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: But my favorite parts are when we get to interact 136 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: with JJ. And long before he was a dad, he 137 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: was cracking dad jokes and he was having fun with 138 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: the media. And he even had that in his press 139 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: conference last week when he talked about the retirement. We 140 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: saw in this episode of Heart Knocks he sits down 141 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: and someone says big decision. He was like, I guess, 142 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, And that's that's the fun part. You get 143 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: to see and I've talked to JJ about this before. 144 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: Of he has said early on his career he took 145 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: things too seriously and it's taken time for him to 146 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: understand that he can take his job seriously. We'll still 147 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: have fun with it and still kind of lighten the move, 148 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: lightened practice, whatever it might be. And I think that's 149 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: what's fun is when we're out at practice during the 150 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: week and we get to see him joke around with 151 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: players or coaches, or when he's throwing the football with 152 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, or if he trips up on a drill 153 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: and he gets, you know, does a summer sault and 154 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: stands up like a gymnast like those are the fun 155 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: things that you get to see from somebody who is 156 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: such a monster on the field. Get to see that 157 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: kind of personality. There is a time and there is 158 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: a place you get your work in, but you can 159 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: also make sure you have the time to have fun. 160 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: And we saw that. And there were a number of 161 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: different one liners from JJ Watt conversations with fans Joseph 162 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: about being a dad quote, I already got the kid 163 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: doing drills. Now, can you imagine little baby what with 164 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: a football playing father and a soccer playing mother this kid. 165 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: There are huge expectations placed on this kid. JJ was 166 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: very excited when he said the doctor said that his 167 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: son Ka was in the ninety nine percentile in height 168 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: in ninety seventh in wait. He was very exciting. I 169 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: will say when JJ posted those photos on his Twitter 170 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: and his retirement announcement, holy cow, that baby is a 171 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: wat I mean, those genes are strong in that baby's face, 172 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: who's what two three months old, just starting to crawl, 173 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: and once that kid gets upright and starts moving around, Yeah, 174 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: it might be a good thing that JJ's retiring right 175 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: now because it's gonna be a chore. He's gonna want 176 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: to come back to play football because that might be 177 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: easier than taking care of a toddler. I did like too, 178 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: that we were reliving the Jesse Lookeetta story coming off 179 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: the anesthesia from having his wisdom teeth remove, which talked 180 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: about last week getting that voice memo of after he 181 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: found out JJ was retiring, saying I need to sign Jersey, 182 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: and JJ was telling that story to everyone and joking 183 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: about it with Jesse. I thought that was pretty fun 184 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: as well, and even better because now Jesse's poking fun 185 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: of himself. He played that voicemail video to his teammates 186 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: and Charlie Bullen in the outside linebacker's room, which I 187 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: thought was a nice touch. And look at the end 188 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: of the day, he got a signed jersey from jj 189 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: what I'd love one. Maybe maybe that's what I need 190 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: to do, Jess leave a voice memo. Yeah. I really 191 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: did like though getting to see Zaban Collins. That is 192 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: a player who you know, maybe you know completely understandably, 193 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: So that took a lot of heat his rookie year. 194 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: He had his snaps decreased and he was just taking 195 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: him longer to have the game slowed down for him, 196 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: really overthinking, which is something he talks about. And he 197 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: was also having to play behind Jordan Hicks last year, 198 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: and so the way that he has stepped up in 199 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: his play and has been calling the plays this year 200 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: has been impressive. I feel like you can really see 201 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: a big difference in how Zaven is playing this year, 202 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: and it was interesting to hear him talk about that 203 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: and talk with linebackers coach Bill Davis that stop thinking 204 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: so much. You have that natural ability, you have the assets. 205 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: You just need to go out and need to play. 206 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: And it sounds kind of similar to how we have 207 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: heard coaches talk to Isaiah Simmons to not necessarily overthink everything, 208 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: but trust your instinct and trust what you know and 209 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: go out and play it that way. But to see 210 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: him interact with JJ as well of just the dry 211 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: humor and just going back and forth with JJ, and 212 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: like JJ fixing Zavin's bucket hat to make him look 213 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: like a cowboy and all that. Like, it's just it's 214 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: fun to see those guys go back and forth with JJ. 215 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: And I'm curious how long it takes those younger players 216 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: who grew up watching and I'm sure idolizing to some 217 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: degree J Watt, were not how long it takes him 218 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: to open up to feel confident enough to kind of 219 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: go and joke around with him and kind of make 220 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: fun of him. I wonder was that the initial meeting 221 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: between Zaven Collins and JJ Watt or did it take 222 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: a couple of months. Probably took some time six months 223 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: into the season. But JJ had the best line of 224 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: this week's episode and maybe the entire Hard Knocks in 225 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: season talking about Zaven Collins quote, he has a little 226 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: bit that old soul to him. He's also got some 227 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: young idiot to him too, and I think I like 228 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: that about him. End quote. Because you remember when Zaven 229 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: Collins was arrested for speeding his rookie year. Not that 230 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: there was tension, but JJ Watt was the first one 231 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: publicly to make a joke about it. Then all of 232 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: a sudden was like, okay, it's out there, and then 233 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: we had an opportunity to talk about Zaven very apologetic. 234 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: But then yeah, I mentioned that JJ had been given 235 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: the business since the news broke, so that might have 236 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: been the first time that Zaven felt comfortable. Once you 237 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: start getting teased, then all right, fair game for me 238 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: to give it back to you. I mean there was 239 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: a practice where Zaven kept falling or tripping out in 240 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: the field and JJ said, if you've fall one more time, 241 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: you have to go inside. But the very end credit 242 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: after the scene, as the credits are rolling every week, 243 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: Hard knocks to us something and it's always lighthearted and 244 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: fun and it's amazing to stay to the end just 245 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: to watch that park because it's normally the best and 246 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: they were out on the practice field Savin and JJ 247 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: and JJ grew up playing hockey in Wisconsin. He's talked 248 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: about how training as a hockey player, helped him train 249 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: as a football player and all of that stuff, and 250 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: Savin is explaining to JJ, don't I don't really understand 251 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: the rules. How many players are out on the ice, 252 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: and JJ's explaining of five players in a goalie and 253 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: Sam says, okay, so if I you know, if I 254 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: give you a penalty, I have to go in the box. 255 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: And JJ's explaining all that, and Zaven's talks to him 256 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: about the shoes or the boots that you wear, and 257 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: JJ looks around. He goes, this has got to be 258 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: a joke. Skates, Like you don't know the words skates, 259 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: And Zave was like no, no, no, like he brushes 260 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: it off, like no, no, I just I just forgot. 261 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: But like you're telling me you can go out there 262 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: and you can you can like skate on those things. 263 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: And he's like yes, like we'll go skating, and Davin goes, 264 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to fall through and JJ goes, you 265 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: don't have to skate on a pond like and then 266 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: and then Zaven is like doing these skating like a 267 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: speed skater movement and he starts moving his knees and 268 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: his arms and it now and It's like, I feel 269 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: like you look like this, like a moose on ice, 270 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: And it was just the interaction. I am not doing 271 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: it justice by any means. The interaction was just so 272 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: funny that Zaven was so seriously asking questions about hockey, 273 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: and JJ was shocked to know that Zaven literally knew nothing. 274 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: It's what we don't see publicly. Once again, hard knocks 275 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: in season opening up the doors behind the scenes, and 276 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: we do see these players in a different light, and 277 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: that's something that I'm sure Zavan's gonna miss next season. 278 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: When JJ's not around. You have different relationship with different players, 279 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: different teammates, but it's those relationships and it's what JJ 280 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: brought up as well. You talk about all the accolades, 281 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: all the plays that he's made, the plays that he 282 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: didn't make, But for him, what's going to miss, what 283 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: he is going to miss the most is those relationships, 284 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: whether it's with teammates, with coaches, support staff, whomever. And 285 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: that is why it is hard for a lot of 286 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: players to step away because what do you do to 287 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: fill that void? And that's not always an easy thing. 288 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: And JJ Watt hasn't really had to fill any sort 289 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: of void. He barely, and I mean barely takes days 290 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: off all year, including the offseason. And Cliff Kingsbury even 291 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: joked about his press conference this week of I don't 292 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: know what kind of hobby JJ is gonna find, but 293 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: he absolutely needs to find one, which how much time 294 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: he's been spending training and playing and practicing, He's gonna 295 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: need to find something to fill his time. It's gonna 296 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: be interesting because, yeah, you take one week off and 297 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: then you get right back into it again. Maybe fatherhood 298 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: becomes the full time job, and he allows his wife 299 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: to repursue her soccer and athletic career and again just 300 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: become as Vants alluded to, mister mom. Look, there's going 301 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: to be a legacy that's left behind with JJ wat 302 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: even though he's only been in Arizona for two years, 303 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: and whether that's through players like Zach Allen and Cam 304 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: Thomas or Zaven Collins, these players are going to go 305 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: on and whether their careers with the Cardinals or else where. 306 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: Our players have picked up on tips and tricks, yes, 307 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: if you are a defender from JJ Watt, but also 308 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: the work ethic and we've seen in hard Knocks JJ 309 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: making sure that people are treating those who are doing 310 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: their laundry and making their food and cleaning up after them, 311 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: treating those people right. And there's going to be a 312 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: lot of things not just on the field, that JJ 313 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: is going to leave behind as a legacy in Arizona 314 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: and Houston and everywhere else you know that he's played 315 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: and people he's played with and where they've all gone. 316 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: One more notes on this episode as we talk kind 317 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: of looking back then looking forward, because also on Wednesday, 318 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: David Blow was announced that he will be getting a 319 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: second straight start. But as Kingsbury mentioned, getting a second start, 320 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: because now you're getting a full week's worth of prep 321 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: and how do you handle that? Because I'll say this, 322 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: and we saw it in Hard Knocks in season, just 323 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: how comfortable and I'll use the word. Blow told the 324 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: cameras piece he was at peace during that game and 325 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: seemed to pick up the offense not only quickly, Danny, 326 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: but he was running that offense very very well. I agree. 327 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: I think it will be good to see the difference 328 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: of him having an entire week, because Blow only had 329 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: that Friday because after practice Thursday, called McCoy ended up 330 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: having some more concussion symptoms. He didn't go into concussion protocol. 331 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: But at this point the Cardinals are being cautious because 332 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: one it's a head injury and two Kyler Murray just 333 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: had surgery Wednesday, So there's a good chance, depending on 334 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: what that timetable of his return looks like, that he 335 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: will probably not be ready, according to Kingsbury, to start 336 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: the season. So that means you'd be rolling with Colt. 337 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,239 Speaker 1: So I understand why you want to be careful in 338 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: that sense because Colt is dealing with concussion symptoms. So 339 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: to give blow an entire week I think will be good, 340 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: especially because we know Deandrew Hopkins will not be playing 341 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: with a knee injury, James Connor who's dealing with a 342 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: shin injury. Everyone is banged up. So there were ten 343 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: names on the list the injury report that did not 344 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: participate in the walkthrough. Yeah, so I do think that 345 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: a week will be good. Maybe that means we will 346 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: get to see more magic tricks in the quarterbacks room 347 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: with head coach Cliff Kingsbury. Because that was pretty impressive 348 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: that David Blah ball that on his head coach. I 349 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: thought that was a nice little way to kind of 350 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: break up the monotonous football part of the episode. But 351 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: as you did not know unless you did, did you 352 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: know that David Blow was a kind of seems fitting, 353 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: doesn't it that he would know magic? I don't know. 354 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: Just looking at him, he seems like someone who would 355 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: have a couple of times. He's very smart. Oh, there 356 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: you go. Okay. Now the question is when we see 357 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: him and he speaks to the media, because he did 358 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: not address the media on Wednesday. In the quarterback starting 359 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: quarterback addresses the media once a week, do we ask 360 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: him to perform a card trick in front of the cameras. 361 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: Maybe if he has cards on him, he might bring 362 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: a deck. You bring a deck, Craig. Why does it 363 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: always have to be on me because I'm older and 364 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: you're younger. I don't know, okay, but I do think 365 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: it'll be good to see that that extra weekend. Use 366 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: this as an evaluation process. Maybe that means David Block 367 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: comes back as your backup quarterback to start the season. 368 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: Maybe it doesn't, but this is the better way to 369 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: find out. Now, in a regular season game with a 370 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: full week of practice, to compare to what you saw 371 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: from Trees McSorley in a regular season rather than a 372 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: preseason game. I'm also curious now because does the game 373 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: plan change. And I know defenses, Yeah, the Falcons defense 374 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: not nearly as potent as the forty nine Ers defense, 375 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 1: but with David Blow, we did hear Kingsbury say going 376 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: to air it out, trust me, and that was during 377 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: the week, and we did see and air out offense 378 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: against the Falcons. I went back and looked Danny. There 379 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: were ten deep shots and but I when I say deep, 380 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: the NFL defines that as sixteen or more air yards. 381 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: So there were ten pass attempts that traveled at least 382 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: sixteen yards. One was the free shot on the off 383 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: sides that the Falcons were caught on and David Blow 384 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: took a chance, and then the other one was the 385 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: DPI that Hollywood Brown was able to get called on. 386 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: But I don't remember seeing that many quote unquote deep 387 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: shots this season, regardless of who the quarterback has been. 388 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: And that was without having Deandrew Hopkins, who didn't even 389 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: make the trip to Atlanta. It'll be interesting to see, 390 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: you know, what they're able to pull out against this 391 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers defense. It's going to be a little 392 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: tougher than Atlanta's. But I mean, at this point, you've 393 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: got nothing to lose. It's it's evaluation, it's pride for 394 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: everyone out there. So this is this is going to 395 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: be an important game. And I know that's not for playoffs, 396 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: and I know that's you know, you don't have a 397 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: lot of your starters out there, but you can still 398 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: learn a lot about players and coaches from games like this, 399 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: and potentially you might have Hollywood Brown available this week. 400 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: He's dealing with a risk injury. Was one of those 401 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: ten players that did not participate on Wednesday. If he 402 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: is not able to go here wide receivers that are 403 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: healthy Aj Green, Greg Dorche, Andrey Bicelli and Phararell Cooper 404 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: on the active roster. That is not how anyone anticipated 405 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: that wide receiver room to look like in twenty twenty two. 406 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: Now here in twenty twenty three. Yeah, absolutely not. You know, 407 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: Rondel Moore, you don't have Jonsre Hopkins, Robbie Anderson, although 408 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: he hasn't been productive at this point, it's like, I 409 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: I don't even know that I'm surprised, Craig of like 410 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: everything that this team has gone through, even just let's 411 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: just say injuries that this team has experience. Let's leave 412 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: it at that. It's like you can't almost be surprised 413 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: by anything happening at this point. The word I believe 414 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: that Calvin Beecham used to describe this season or phrase quote, 415 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: it's been wild to say the least, by the way, 416 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: more smiling, some chuckles, maybe even some outwar laughter. When 417 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: Calvin Beecham addressed the media on Wednesday, he was honored. 418 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: He and Buddha Baker honored by the Arizona chapter the 419 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: Pro Football Writers of America. Beacham honored with the Good 420 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: Guy Award, Buddha with the MVP. Now the Good Guy 421 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: Award is just being accessible and professional with those of 422 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: us in the media, whether it's local, national, or team media. 423 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: You always like to have at least one from each side, 424 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: offense and defense, a handful of players that you know 425 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: you can go into that locker room either during the 426 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: week or after a game, and they know that you 427 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: have a job to do and they are willing to 428 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: stand there when or lose big plays, negative plays, to 429 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: stand there and answer all of your questions. And beach 430 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: has done that. This season has not always been easy 431 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: because he's had to addressed Sean Coogler, the number of 432 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: different offensive line combinations, the number of different quarterbacks, Kyler Murray, 433 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: his leadership, his study habits. Yet beach has either stood 434 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: there or been in front of the podium and answered 435 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: every single question. So there is not a player more 436 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: deserving than that award than Kelvin Beacham. I can't put 437 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: into words, but for everybody listening, whatever it would be 438 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: for me to describe the ideal player to deal with 439 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: from a media standpoint in terms of availability, in terms 440 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: of honesty and being transparent with you and being fair, 441 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: it would be Kelvin Beacham. I don't know how else 442 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: to describe it. I mean, he's incredibly deserving of that award, 443 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: and week after week he is very insightful and honest 444 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: and answering the questions from the media. And I know 445 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: that this year, of all years, that cannot be easy 446 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: from players in that locker room, from coaches on that 447 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: side of the building as well. So very grateful to 448 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: have players like Kelvin Beatram from our standpoint to work 449 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: with and talk with and learn from throughout the season. 450 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: And maybe a little bit too honest, perhaps because when 451 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: asked about this season, and he mentioned how wild it is. 452 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: He brought up Kyle the Murray's contract, the unfortunate, the 453 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: tragedy of Jeff Gladney passing away, and then mentioned speed racers, 454 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: which obviously was a reference to Hollywood Brown during training camp, 455 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: and then the Holdens plural during training camp. Which did 456 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: you think we forgot about those, Craig, I did not. 457 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: I did not, But now we know though holds though well. 458 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: As Beach said, quote, I probably wasn't supposed to say that, 459 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: and of course that brought up a bunch of laughter. 460 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: But again, I think if you look back at what happened, 461 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: if you know, you know in August, you know the 462 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: players there were two, why don't each side of the wall. 463 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: We ended up getting contracts and then felt better and 464 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: it felt better all of a sudden, So goodness for 465 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: that though. We're glad they feel better, exactly, And now 466 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: we know who to call. Who's called Leroy and that 467 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: offensive line room which I did not know. Listen to 468 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: Smith Smith, He's called Leroy. And why is he called Leroy? Calvin? Well, 469 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: because we just needed he needed to have a country name. 470 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, fair enough, who's going to argue with 471 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: Kelvin beacham not me. Do you need a country name? No, no, 472 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: I don't need a country name. I do recommend going 473 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: to the Cardinals YouTube channel, the live tab or we 474 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: live stream our press conferences every weekend and watching that 475 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: in full, because Calvin was he was very entertaining. Now, 476 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: there were some serious questions. You talked about whether it's 477 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: the season, his future as a pending free agent, the 478 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: very scary accident involving Bill Safety to Mark Hamlin on 479 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: Monday Night's football game earlier this week, and just the 480 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: mood in the locker room room and understanding the risk 481 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: that these players take every week, putting their bodies in 482 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: their minds and everything physical mental health on the line 483 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: every week. So it was a lot that was covered 484 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: in his press conference. Highly recommend going and watching that 485 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: on our YouTube channel. And as directly, you know, as 486 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 1: a father with a son who is at the age 487 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: now that is thinking and perhaps wanting to play football, 488 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: how do you have that discussion? Of course, Beach had 489 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: the great answers like, well, I haven't really had directly 490 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: had to have that conversation yet he told his mom, 491 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: we haven't had that conversation. Because he's in Disneyland right 492 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: now celebrating his birthday. So but it is one of 493 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: those conversations that everyone right now is having, whether you 494 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: are in the game or not in the game, because yeah, 495 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: that was a very scary sight watching that live, and 496 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: it still is difficult to reconcile in your own least 497 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: in my own mind, what I saw versus what I 498 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: do for a living, what we ask these players to 499 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: do each in every week, a very sad and sobering 500 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: reminder that these are people. They're more than just players 501 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: the numbers on their jersey. They are more than just 502 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: players on your fantasy football roster. You know they are. 503 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: This is their livelihood and while they are very grateful 504 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: to be playing a kid's game as their career, that 505 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that there aren't risks and there aren't dangers 506 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: to the game. And that's definitely been on everyone's mind 507 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: this week, and I'm sure more so as we get 508 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: closer to games over the weekend. Injuries are going to happen. 509 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: Serious injuries are going to happen. It's when you see 510 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: something that is not normal on a football field. And 511 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: we'll leave you with this as far as an injury 512 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: updates Kyle Murray. Yes, he did have surgery on Tuesday. 513 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury confirmed that earlier on Wednesday, and then moments later, 514 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: Kyle the Murray conferred himself twitted out a picture of 515 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: himself in a hospital bed. Quote a sale surgery was successful. 516 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for all the love and prayers. I appreciate 517 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: the support and positivity more than I can express. I'll 518 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: be back, is what he tweeted out. I'm a little 519 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: surprised he posted the picture of him in a hospital bed. 520 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: I mean maybe because it's Kyler Murray. Players do that 521 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: all the time, you know. Zechert said that too. It's look, 522 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: the first step is done. He's had surgery. Now he's 523 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: just got to start rehabbing when it's time and working 524 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: towards that goal of getting back on the football field. 525 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: Cliff mentioned potentially being a reset for him. We know 526 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna work hard. Where where he does the rehab 527 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: or not. I would prefer it be with the team 528 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: in Arizona, but you know, wherever he does it, it's 529 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: gonna be every day one hundred percent. Because that is 530 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: one thing we know about Kyler Murray. Football is his life. 531 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: And that's been taken away from him, So how does 532 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: he get back to doing that? Well, your rehab as 533 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: much as you are allowed to enable to get back 534 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: as soon as possible. Not only that, but something we 535 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: learned from Kyler Murray after the playoff game in LA 536 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: last season is like, we know how seriously he takes 537 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: his game, how competitive he is, and he wants to 538 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: put his best play out there every single time he 539 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: steps on the field. So I would imagine not even 540 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: just because of the injury, but the way that he played, 541 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: the way this team performed as a whole this year, 542 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: would have been enough motivation for him to go out 543 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: and change the script next year. It's just another one 544 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: of those questions discussion points that we'll be having all 545 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: off season, which begins on Monday, January ninth, the day 546 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: after the Cardinals play at San Francisco at Levi's Stadium. 547 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals again looking to snap a six game losing streak. 548 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: In the forty nine ers, Danny have something to play for. 549 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: The number one seed is within reach a win plus 550 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: an Eagles loss, and the forty nine ers have that 551 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: number one seed. So if you're the Cardinals, yeah, not 552 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: only in the season on a positive note, but also 553 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: Hamper put a dent in the plans of your division rivals, 554 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: so we can expect to see the forty nine ers starters, 555 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: is what you're telling me. Oh, yeah, they'll all be 556 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: out there. Great. I'm excited. I've never been to Leavi 557 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: Stadium before you and J. J. Watt. We have so 558 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: much in common, you know, I had never been to Mercedes' 559 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: Oh that's little, do you know, Craig. Oh this is 560 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: my swan song. Just kidding, I can never leave you. Wow, 561 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: that is a sad thought right there. I would love 562 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: to be able to retire at my age before thirty. Gosh, 563 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: that's the dream. Just kidding. This job is the dream. 564 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: Keep going on. I'm gonna have almost cut that cleve 565 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: and send it to my boss him to lay me 566 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: on that note, we will put a lid on this 567 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hunda, partner of 568 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive 569 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: producer Jim Almandro for Danny Serek. I'm Craig gril Loup. 570 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time you're on Cardinals. Scovered 571 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: two