1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: All right, that's it to feel you. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 2: Oh wow, it's that time of the year again. The 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: MLB trade deadline is this month and the rumor mill 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: is just beginning to heat up. Tonight, We've got a 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: conversation with Yankees beat reporter Max Goodman to talk about 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: the Yankees' top trade targets, plus which injured players could 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: be nearing a return, and who's the next big prospect 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: to get a call to the show. Buckle up, It's 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: going to be a wild month. This is n y 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: Y Recaps. Welcome thank you, call me back. All right, 11 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. Welcome back. Trade deadline is this month, 12 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: and welcome back to Max Goodman, who is here to 13 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: talk about it with us. 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: How you doing, Max, I'm great, Thanks for having me. 15 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: How are you? 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: I'm good Man. I'm jealous that you get to travel 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: around with the team all summer, but you know, I 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: get to at least stay out of the heat, so 19 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: I got that going for me. You're obviously with this 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: team a lot. You're familiar with its strengths and weaknesses, 21 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: current roster, you know, guys on the injured list, minor leagues. 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: You're as familiar with it as anybody. So I want 23 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 2: to just start off by asking you this, right out 24 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: of the bat or right off the bat, does this 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: team has presently constructed have enough to get by the Orioles? 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: Oh? Man, I think so much would have to go 27 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: right for that to be the case. I think that 28 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: they certainly have the potential to get there. But you 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: know we were talking about this before, you know, you 30 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: went live. The lineup, the ceiling is there's so much 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: depth and firepower, but four through nine, with Stanton on 32 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: the injured list, it's just it's not getting the job 33 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: done right now. And you kind of revert back to 34 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two vibes with just how top heavy 35 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: this is where Judge is having a historic year, the 36 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: factor in Sodo as well, but the rest of those guys, 37 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: verdugo Lemayhew Glaber, Trent Grisham's playing a lot at the 38 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: catchers and Ben Rice. Now, just looking at this Toronto 39 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: series that I was up at Rogers Center for those 40 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: four games, the two games they won, it was pretty 41 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: commanding wins and you saw a comprehensive effort on offense, 42 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: and this is just talking about the offense real quick. 43 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: The two losses that they had four through nine, they 44 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: had barely any hits, barely any extra base hits, no 45 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: run production. It was just Judge and Soto, and quite frankly, 46 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: Anthony Volpi hasn't been as good for a pretty extended 47 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: stretch now as well. So I do think there are 48 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: a lot of needs and if they make the right 49 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: opportune trades at the deadline, because of the way that 50 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: the market is, I don't think that they should necessarily 51 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: overpay for some of the bigger names out there. You 52 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: mix that with some guys starting to have a better 53 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: second half, some health that's always important, and then maybe 54 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: just a couple boosts, whether it's external guys coming in 55 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: and then a few pieces coming off the injured list. 56 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: It's certainly feasible. But with the way these past couple 57 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: of weeks have gone, I feel like it's the Orioles 58 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: division to lose more So, I don't know if you're 59 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: in agreement with me there. 60 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I've been saying. You know, when the 61 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: Orioles caught the Yankees, I said, you know, they're probably 62 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: not gonna, you know, lose momentum here. They're only gonna 63 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 2: continue to play well and right now it's on the 64 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: Yankees to fight their way past the Orioles, because the Orioles, 65 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: if everything remains as is, I think, have a better 66 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: overall team one through nine. But the Yankees have addressed 67 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: one of their issues. Ben Rice replaced Anthony Rizzo at 68 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: first base. What do your thought so far on him? 69 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: He saw him in person. Do you think they've solved 70 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: the first base issue without having to make a trade Internally? 71 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: I mean, recently, he's been their third best hitter, right, 72 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: I mean, just the quality of that bat from Rice 73 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: recent and he's made the adjustment pretty seamlessly, and I'm 74 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: not necessarily surprised about that. I mean, he's hit at 75 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: every single level in the minor leagues. I know that 76 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: the Yankees are very fond of him as a prospect, 77 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: and they think that his ceiling offensively is very, very high. 78 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: I think if he can produce this way for the 79 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: rest of the season and continue to get better, as 80 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: that's going to happen when he gets more reps and 81 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: starts to face different types of pitchers, see how they 82 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: adjust to him, and if he can make those corresponding adjustments, 83 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: they might just have their first baseman for next year. Right. 84 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to go out and resign 85 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: Juan Soto and make some other impactful moves, you have 86 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: to get younger and cheaper at different positions. And that's 87 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: an example right there. You look at second base two, 88 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: maybe bringing up Dominguez as a full time option next year. 89 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: We'll see where Spencer Jones is at in the outfield. 90 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: But if you have Rice at first, he's been playing 91 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: well defensively there. Other than that one play that hit 92 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: the first base bag in Toronto, I think he's been 93 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: impressive overall for a full time catcher at a secondary position, 94 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: and that doesn't hurt with versatility either, right, I mean 95 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: having someone who can also catch in a pinch. He's 96 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: been great so far. Everything that the coaching staff has said, 97 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: and even some other players, they've been very impressed with 98 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: how he's handled himself thus far. 99 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: So let's talk about the obvious needs here. So the 100 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: bullpen has not been good. The third base position, obviously, 101 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: Oswaldo got off to a great start, but he's come 102 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: back down to earth. Lemayhe has been hitting a little 103 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: bit better lately, but he's not terrifying any opposing pitchers 104 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 2: at this point in his career, John Birdie has not 105 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: been healthy. When he's been in there, he's been solid. 106 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: I think he's been exactly what they wanted, a guy 107 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: who can pick it and make a little bit of 108 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 2: contact be dangerous on the basis. But he's had two 109 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: lang injuries so far. We don't know when we're gonna 110 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: get him back or what shape he's going to be 111 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: in when he comes back. So really that leaves third base, 112 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: probably bullpen, maybe second base if Glaber Torres doesn't keep 113 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: up this this hitting that he's had recently. What are 114 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: your thoughts on what the Yankees view as their biggest 115 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 2: need as we go towards the deadline. 116 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: I would say it's the bullpen, obviously. The infield and 117 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: really the second half of the lineup is a glaring 118 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: issue right now. And you know, the stat that stands 119 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: out to me is just as an infield this year 120 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: overall and this is again including Volpi, who played really 121 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: well at the beginning, but I mean, his ops is 122 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: just hanging on over seven hundred. He's been much more 123 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: of a singles hitter this year, which isn't the worst thing, 124 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: but he's been zapped of his power with the adjustments 125 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: he made the infield as a whole has an eighty 126 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: eight WRC plus they're hitting two thirty seven with a 127 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: six fifty OPS. That's like bottom third, if not even lower, 128 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: in all of baseball as those four positions comprehensively. So 129 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: obviously Volpi's not going anywhere, and Lamay is not really 130 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: going to go anywhere either. I think that he could 131 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: project well as kind of that sixth man off the 132 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: bench type of guy where he's going to play, you know, 133 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: different positions. Give Rice a day at first, play at 134 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: third also, But really the bullpen is such a glaring 135 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: need for them. If you ask me, I go back 136 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: to May twentieth, which is the day that Clay Holmes 137 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: gave up four runs to the Mariners, the first time 138 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: you gave up any runs in the entire season the 139 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: blown save. That morning, they were tied with Cleveland for 140 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: the best bullpen era in all of baseball, and since 141 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: then they have the third worst bullpen era and all 142 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: of baseball. It's up over five. And you know, I'll 143 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: ask you this before we continue, because this is something 144 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about. A bunch in the bullpen, 145 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: is who do you really trust out there? If it's 146 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: a playoff game and you have a lead and it's 147 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: the sixth who do you go to? Because Holmes is 148 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: an elite closer. I know he's been, you know, a 149 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: liability of late, but I don't necessarily think they're going 150 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: to go out and get a closer, per se. I 151 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: can see someone else pitching in save situations, as that 152 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: always happens over the course of a year. But really 153 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: we're looking here at high leverage arms and other than 154 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: Luke Weaver and Michael Tonkin, who's been a revelation. I 155 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,559 Speaker 1: think you can clarify Weaver as a revelation too, because 156 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: both of those guys are basically scrapy arms that they've 157 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: turned into now dominant weapons. And we'll see how they 158 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: perform the rest of the year because it is still 159 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of a small sample with Tonkin, but 160 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: I digress Kinley's been a little better of late. But right, 161 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: I mean, who do you really trust? Right? I think 162 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: it's Tonkin, Weaver and Holmes right now, and that's not 163 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: enough to win a championship. 164 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Tonkin is a guy who got DFA three times. 165 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know if the Yankees have unlocked him, 166 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: or if it's just kind of one of those things 167 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: where he's pitching well right now and he comes back 168 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: down to earth, we are getting f Ross back. I 169 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: think he'll help. You know, we have some guys we 170 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: can put possibly in the bullpen because you're not going 171 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,599 Speaker 2: to have a five man rotation in the playoffs. You 172 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: got to look at who would be effective. I think 173 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: that Stroman probably most effective as a starting pitcher. Nester Cortez, 174 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: I could see going to the bullpen, you know, as 175 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: a lefty, kind of funky. He's pitching the bullpen before 176 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: Clark Schmidt when he comes back. I think he's effective 177 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: as a starter. But in the playoffs you could definitely 178 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 2: use him out of the pen because he's not going 179 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 2: to go deep into the game. He's pitched out of 180 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 2: the pen before, and he's a strike guy. He's more 181 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: swinging myths than a lot of guys they have right now. 182 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: That's big right there, what you just mentioned. And I 183 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: didn't even get to say that yet. They're bottom third 184 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: in the league in bullpen strikeout rate this year. Yeah, 185 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: and you know, Chris Kershner of the Athletic and I 186 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: talked to Matt Blake in Toronto just a couple of 187 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: days ago, and he was explaining how the ceiling of 188 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: the bullpen with what they have, they don't need strikeouts. 189 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: It's not a necessity. If everyone does what they do best, 190 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: you don't necessarily need that. But in the playoffs or 191 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: against really good teams, that's the best way to get 192 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: guys out, right, It's the highest percentage way to get 193 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: guys out is to not have them put the ball 194 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: in play, to get them to strike out, to get 195 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: them to swing and miss, to get them to chase, 196 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: to wif all that good stuff. And there really isn't 197 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: that type of presence in their bullpen right now. I 198 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: mean that's what you have with Holmes. He's a weak contact, 199 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: ground ball guy, and he's a lead at that, but 200 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: sometimes that's going to lead the clunkers and blown saves 201 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: when a blue kind of sets the snowball off and 202 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: then a lapse in command and who knows what happens 203 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: from there. But Ian Hamilton's regression this year has been 204 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: a blow for them and health. Like you said, I mean, 205 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: having Fross come back that deceptive look and he's a 206 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: swing and miss guy, that'll help. But I think that 207 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: they need to go out and whoever they do acquire. 208 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: And I think that Fross is a good person to 209 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: name here because he wasn't necessarily a top candidate to 210 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: go out and trade for in twenty twenty two because 211 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: of the amount of years of control that he had. 212 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: You usually think of rentals and you know, more veteran arms. 213 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: But even if that was out of left field, it 214 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: was an opportune trade for them because the Yankees continue 215 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: to show that they're willing to use top starting pitching prospects, 216 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: and they used Hayden west Neski there to get someone 217 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: that had like six years of control. And obviously FROs 218 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: hasn't been healthy, but that was a pretty solid move 219 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: by the Yankees to do something that we didn't necessarily 220 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: seek coming. And I think that that's certainly on the 221 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: table this year and any year that you look at 222 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: someone's strength, and the Yankees' pitching department has been great 223 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: at this of late. Find someone who misses bats and 224 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: they don't necessarily have to be Mason Miller or Tanner 225 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: Scott or any of those you know, big name guys 226 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: that we'll get into. Give something that the Yankees have 227 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: a surplus of, or an ability to replenish if you 228 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: want to use the top pitching talent in the farm system, 229 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: and there you go. You might be able to fill 230 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: the need with someone that we're not going to mention today, 231 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: that you know right before the deadline. It's another one 232 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: of those surprise moves. 233 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: I'll throw one at you as we move to trade targets. 234 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: This is a guy. I'm not sure the Rangers are 235 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: ready to pack it in yet. But what about David Robertson. 236 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: There's six games under five hundred. He still gets a 237 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: ton of strikeouts. Just a couple of weeks ago he 238 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: struck out Bets Freeman and Otani back to back to back. 239 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: I think two nights in a row. He could still 240 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: do it. And if the Rangers are full and out 241 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: of it at the trade deadline, he might be somebody 242 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: who's not expensive. He's thirty nine years old. I believe 243 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: he's a free agent. After the year he was part 244 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: of the nine Championship. I could see him coming back. 245 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on d ROP. 246 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: We are on the same page here because when you 247 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: messaged me and said I want to get your sense 248 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: on maybe some under the radar guys. That was someone 249 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: I was going to mention, and I've said on other 250 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: shows that what he did against the Dodgers, there nobody 251 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: in the Yankees bullpen can necessarily do that, right. Their 252 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: best swing and misguy so far this year has been 253 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: either Weaver or Caleb Ferguson, and Ferguson has struggled mightily. 254 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: I mean, that's been a blow for them too, that 255 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: they got him and Gonzales from the Dodgers and neither 256 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: of them have panned out to really fill the Wandi 257 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: Peralta role. So I think now we have to bring 258 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: in the fact that the added wildcard spots has totally 259 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: changed the way that the market is going to go 260 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: these last this last year or two. Now, you got 261 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: to keep a close eye on the Cubs, the Diamondbacks, 262 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: those teams that have valuable assets that if they don't 263 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: play well over the next couple of weeks, they probably 264 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: should sell off those pieces. But they're also hanging around, right. 265 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: I mean, all you have to do is get in 266 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: these days, Diamondbacks, the Phillies. These last couple of years, 267 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: they've shown that that's how you can win a championship 268 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: or at least get pretty close. And that's still a 269 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: successful year, So Robertson would be an improvement for them. 270 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like you said, it would probably be 271 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: easier to get him than one of the bigger names. 272 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, if you're gonna ask about Mason Miller, 273 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily see that happening, just because of how 274 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: much it would take to get him. And that's volatile arm, 275 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: Like he's throwing so hard, it's a risk. You don't 276 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: know how healthy he's going to be over the next 277 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: few years. And again I know that probably some fans 278 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: are annoyed that this is a take these days because 279 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: they want to see, you know, higher profile arms get added, 280 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: but the Yankees continue to churn out these reclamation projects. 281 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: If there's another Tonkin out there, that would be a 282 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: way to not have to go out and trade too 283 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: many prospects and just have that improvement with with you know, 284 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: a lower profile arm. And I know that's not just 285 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: something you can bank on always, but they have done 286 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: that a lot lately with Hamilton. Again, he hasn't been 287 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: as great this year Lucas Lichty a couple of years ago, 288 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: so that that's certainly on the table as well. 289 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: Tim Hill doesn't look bad. I mean, since he came over, 290 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: he's got a funky little look. But I don't think 291 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: you're gonna like amp up the clubhouse, amp up the 292 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: fan base if you go get another Michael Tonkin, Right, 293 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: I think they got to get some. They got to 294 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: get at least one name. You know, is it Tanner Scott? 295 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 2: Is it Cody Bellinger? Do you think Geo or Schella 296 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: could come back and play third base? Seeing a lot 297 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: of names out there, Garrett Crochet is one we see 298 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: a lot of. I'm not I'm not super on board 299 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: with that because he's another guy who's over his innings 300 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: from recent years, and so I don't know how available 301 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: he's gonna be down the stretch having worked as a starter. 302 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: If he were willing to come over and go right 303 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: into the bullpen, yeah sure, but I don't want to 304 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: be dealing with an innings limit when we're trying to 305 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: win a pennant. We've already got that with a couple 306 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: of guys on this roster. So in terms of the 307 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: names that you've heard thrown out there, and maybe it's 308 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: good to mention also JT. Brewbaker, a guy who we 309 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: traded for before the season, is on his way back, 310 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 2: we might finally get a look at him. I don't 311 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: even know anything about him, but what do you think 312 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: about you know the names that are out there. 313 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: Well, for brew Baker, they're they're building him up as 314 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: of now as a starter by the way, so as 315 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: much as who knows what's gonna happen in a couple 316 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: of months, they could use him as a long man. 317 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: That was kind of the plan with Luke Weaver, right 318 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: and now he's he's basically their eighth inning guys, so 319 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: so plans change. But brew Baker right now is warming 320 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: up as a starter in the miners. I think that, 321 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: if anything, it would be f Ross. That's kind of 322 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: the plug in, seventh, eighth inning type of guy. So 323 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: the opposite side of the wildcard discussion is what teams 324 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: are definitely selling, and that's the White Sox, the A's, 325 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: the Marlins. I'm sure there are others, but those are 326 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: the three that came to mind first. If it's not 327 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: Mason Miller with the A's, maybe it's Lucas erseg I 328 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: think that's that's how you say his last dam and 329 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: that's someone that gets a lot of strikeouts, gets a 330 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: lot of whiffs, and something I forgot to mention earlier 331 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: with the bullpen is there's only a handful of lefties 332 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: out there, so you'd kind of think that they need lefties, 333 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: But if you take a deeper look at it, their 334 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: splits are the other way around. They've been much worse 335 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: against right handed hitters and much better against lefties. So 336 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: in a sense, it wouldn't be the worst thing to 337 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: add more righty's that get righty's out, because that's been 338 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: a weakness for them too, even beyond the strikeouts. If 339 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: I remember correctly, I didn't look this up before we started. 340 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: I think that left handed hitters are hitting like one 341 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: something against Yankees relievers this year, and righty's are are 342 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, to sixty up closer to three hundred so 343 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: or sg's great against righty's for instance, I don't know 344 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: if the Marlins would would give up Tanner Scott, they'd 345 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: probably get a Hall for him. Andrew Nardi's another name 346 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: from there, and the Angels. Carlos Estebez is a name 347 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: that I've seen thrown around with. Also Luis Renhifos as 348 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: an offensive guy. So there's a ton of different options. 349 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: A lot can change over these next couple of weeks 350 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: based on how those teams that are closer to being 351 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 1: fringe playoff organizations how they play. But yeah, when when 352 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: you're looking at the White Sox, are definitely going to 353 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: give up talent, The A's definitely are, the Marlins definitely are. 354 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of teams that want that 355 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: talent too, though, because if you're a fringe team like 356 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: the Mets that a month ago it looked like they 357 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: were going to be selling pieces off, now they'll probably 358 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: go out and add because they have momentum and they're 359 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: you know, who knows what's going to happen if they 360 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: do make it into the playoffs. 361 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: So in terms of trade chips that we have right 362 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 2: now to deal, I don't think they're gonna give up 363 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 2: Spencer Jones. I don't think they're gonna give up the 364 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: March And they wouldn't trade either of those guys for 365 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: a full year of control of Juan Soto, right, So 366 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: that kind of takes I don't see any Juan Soto's 367 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: out there. You know, maybe a Mason Miller was like, 368 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 2: you know, top of the market guy where you could 369 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 2: deal with Spencer Jones. But I don't. I don't think 370 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 2: Cashman would make that move. So in terms of the 371 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: next level of chips, who do you think that the 372 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 2: Yankees would have to give up to kind of go 373 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: out and replenish this roster. 374 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: It's an interesting discussion because ever since Pereira is now 375 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: out for the year with Tom and John surgery, so 376 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: he's damaged goods and he would have been the prototypical 377 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: piece to move because there's really no path for him 378 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: to be in the majors with this club, especially if 379 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: Jones and do Mingas work out, if you bring Sodo back, 380 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: you've got Judge out there. There's just no space. Virdugo 381 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: is a free agent obviously, and Puss like gonna mention 382 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: uh Oswell Parraza, right, I mean, they've they've shown what 383 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: they really think of him these last couple of years 384 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: by Nato. I mean, I wouldn't necessarily say that, but 385 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: they clearly aren't willing to give him a full time 386 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: opportunity because there has been chances and obviously he's gotten hurt, 387 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: he hasn't played well, but they never really considered him 388 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: in the same light as as a voltpie who then 389 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: got the starting job and ran with it, So I 390 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: don't know how other teams are going to evaluate those guys. 391 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: For instance, maybe they do think that Pereira can be 392 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: a long term fit in the outfield and he could 393 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: be kind of packaged in with something. The Yankee specialty 394 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: though is trading pitchers, right, And even there Will Warren 395 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: coming into this year would have been the top guy. 396 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: Same with Chase Hampton, who's been injured all year. He's 397 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: starting to throw again. Warren hasn't pitched that well this season, 398 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: So does the injury to Hampton, the injury to Pereira, 399 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: the recent performance from Peraza, and Warren, for instance, just 400 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: naming those four guys because they're so highly rated, does 401 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: that change the way that another team would maybe look 402 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: at them as a centerpiece in a deal. But the 403 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: Yankees they just churn out pitching talent, right, So there 404 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: are gonna be some guys in Hudson that you might 405 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: not know that much about that other teams are gonna 406 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: consider a viable asset. And that's how they'll get those 407 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: trades done. Because the Yankees they draft and develop so 408 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: well with pitching that just in the last two three 409 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: years they've traded so many pitching prospects, and it hasn't 410 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: hurt them at all. They just continue to replenish those guys. 411 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: One other piece, and I know you had his picture 412 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: there in the intro, is Augustine Ramirez. And that's an 413 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: interesting case because with how well he's done of late 414 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: and the Gary Sanchez esque power at a premium position 415 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: at catcher, with the improvements he's made defensively, the Yankees 416 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: are loaded a catcher two. There's not necessarily a spot 417 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: for him right away if you're moving forward with wells, 418 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: is Rice going to catch? Travignho hasn't been able to 419 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: control the running game, but he's so elite with framing 420 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: and managing a pitching staff. I don't necessarily know how 421 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: Augustine fits in right now, and his value is as 422 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: high as it's ever going to be, especially if he 423 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: starts to produce well in Triple A, since he got 424 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: called up pretty recently there. So if they don't want 425 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: to go down the Gary Sanchez road again, where defense 426 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: is more of a liability with him, as much as 427 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: he's improved his bat, the ceiling is crazy high and 428 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: the power is prodigious with him. Someone told me a 429 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: couple years ago, it's out of this world, which is 430 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: you throw that in with like a Domingus, Right, So 431 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: that could be a top piece in a trade, especially 432 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: because he's pretty close. It's not like it's a project 433 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: that's much younger. And the Yankees have shown a willingness 434 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: to do that too with the John Birdie trade. Right. 435 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: Who knows if John Cruz ends up being a superstar 436 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: down the road, but he's so far away that it 437 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,719 Speaker 1: makes that trade a little easier. In the NBA, these 438 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: teams are trading away draft picks in thirty twenty four, right, 439 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean like it's so easy to compartmentalize that because 440 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: the GM that's here now isn't going to deal with 441 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: that when that player get ends up getting drafted that's 442 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: in middle school right now or whatever it is. 443 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm really anxious to see what Augustin 444 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: Ramirez can do. And we'll talk about him a little 445 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: bit more when we get to the minor league stuff. 446 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 2: But he's got a great swing, He's got massive, massive power. 447 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 2: I want to talk a little bit about injuries because 448 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: we got some guys that are coming back. Clark Schmidt, 449 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: I read, is throwing. He's right at the very beginning 450 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 2: of his throwing program. We got John Carlo out for 451 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: a little while. Obviously, f Ross and Brubaker throwing. Who 452 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: do you think is going to be like the first 453 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 2: guy back? And you know what timeframe are we looking 454 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 2: on having most of these guys back? 455 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: It varies, right, I mean, like Domingas, we may not 456 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: see him again this year, depending on how it's an 457 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: eight week injury obliques as we know with Aaron Judge 458 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: and other you know fiery swingers, right, that's a very 459 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: sensitive spots have an injury still coming back from Tommy John, 460 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: he didn't really have that much time to get back 461 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: to playing every day with that, so you don't want 462 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: to rush him back and risk something else happening. If anything, 463 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: he'd be like a late September maybe if everything goes well, 464 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: a September call up. But who would be closest? Nick 465 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: Birdie isn't that far. Bru Baker has been improving really 466 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: quickly in terms of his build up, and f Ross 467 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: I think is a couple of weeks. Maybe Ian Hamilton 468 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,239 Speaker 1: hasn't done too much yet. Schmidt. It's a little more 469 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: of a long term build up now because he's been 470 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: out for so long, and I agree with what you 471 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: said earlier about Schmidt as maybe a bullpen guy down 472 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: the stretch, because you don't know how he's gonna respond 473 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: now to the two month layoff, and you don't need 474 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: five starters in the playoffs, especially with Luis Heel. If 475 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: he continues to show that he is able to withstand 476 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: this crazy increase in workload for him, I think he'll 477 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: probably end up in a different role at some point. 478 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: But if you want him to start, because at his 479 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: peak that you want him to start right right, there 480 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: isn't enough spots, and Schmid has experienced the too, so 481 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: Cody Petite is also not that far away. But that's 482 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: more depth in terms of the rotation. The Yankees have 483 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: a long way to go, right. I mean, we are 484 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: in the second half and the season has flown by. 485 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: But having depth and all these guys coming back is 486 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 1: still important because you want to preserve bullets for some 487 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: of your really key pieces, and it benefits them to 488 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: take their time with Garrett Cole, for instance, and maybe 489 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: give Heel a month to ease back, or I don't 490 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: know if they would send him down and just kind 491 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: of limit his innings. We ask about that all the time, 492 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: and every chance the Yankees get, whether it's Blake or 493 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: Aaron Boone or even Heel himself, they say that he's 494 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: responding well and it's something that they're keeping an eye on, 495 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: and that he's been as strong as ever. Right, So, 496 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: obviously he hasn't performed as well recently, but he's never 497 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: thrown this many innings in his professional career. It's not 498 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: just in the majors. So that's something to keep an 499 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: eye on for someone coming back from TJ. 500 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: I was gonna say his era isn't responding well the 501 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: last couple of times out, all right, So as we 502 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 2: look forward to the second half, what are your thoughts 503 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 2: on Carlos Rodin, Because he obviously had that great stretch 504 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: where he won seven or eight games in a row. 505 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: Last three times out he has been dog manure. He 506 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: seemed to settle down after an eight nothing deficit. But 507 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: that's kind of like saying, well, I swam out of 508 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 2: my car, but it was already at the bottom of 509 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 2: the river. You know, I guess you take the win, 510 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 2: but look, we need him to perform. Is it a 511 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 2: mental thing? Is it a stuff thing? Like is he 512 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: not responding well? Because he threw too few innings last year. 513 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: Is he just hitting the wall? What are your thoughts 514 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: on his struggles and do you think he can turn 515 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: it around? 516 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: Well, he was looking like an all star early on, right, 517 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 1: And really that start that he had in Kansas City 518 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: in early June was kind of like, Okay, he came 519 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: back to where he ended last season and didn't get 520 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: an out, and that was just the worst possible way 521 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: to end the worst possible first season for him with 522 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: the contract that he signed in the expectations goes back 523 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: throw seven innings of one run ball. I think it 524 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: was It's like, Okay, this is what the Yankees are 525 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: having for the rest of the year with him and 526 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: these last three starts, Like you said, he struggled pretty 527 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: mightily at the most elementary level. It seems like if 528 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: he throws his secondary pitches more and earlier in the game, 529 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: he can offset the fact that teams are really hunting 530 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: his fastball and that pitch has been such a bread 531 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: and butter pitch for him throughout his career, but other 532 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: teams just have a game plan right now of hunting 533 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: it and ambushing it. And when he's throwing that pitch 534 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: more than any other pitch you can kind of sit 535 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: on it. And these last couple starts, like you said, 536 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: he's adjusted well, but he started throwing secondary pitches more 537 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: makes you wonder why he hasn't done it earlier. So 538 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: I think that there as a pitching department and just 539 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: the staff and the majors. Obviously, it's something that needs 540 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: to get fixed with him because this has the potential 541 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: to spiral. You don't want him starting to compensate or 542 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: get in his head because he did pitch so well 543 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: and that probably did wonders for his confidence after the 544 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: way last season went. But I think that's that's something 545 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: to keep an eye on with him as a pitcher 546 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: that made one hundred and sixty two million because of 547 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: his fastball. That's the pitch that got him that contract 548 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: when he was you know, getting Cy Young votes with 549 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: the Giants and the White Sox before that. He's a 550 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: fastball guy, So it'll probably be weird for him to 551 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: go into a start and be like, Okay, I'm just 552 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: gonna not become a junk baller, right, but like use 553 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: my secondaries more than I ever have before. Maybe you 554 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: do that for a little bit and get opponents away 555 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: from just sitting dead red early in counts. I mean 556 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: that brave start. It was fastball, hit, fastball, home run 557 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: to start the game, and then the next time out 558 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: the same thing happened again. You know what I mean, right, Like, Yeah, 559 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: it's pretty clear that that's what the issue is right now. 560 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: And you mix that in with you know, lapses in 561 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 1: command and sequencing issues. Again, it's not just okay, I'm 562 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: to abandon the fastball, it's how can we mix it 563 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: more to get hitters away from just in MLB the show, 564 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: they're guessing fastball. Yeah, when they're getting it, they're crushing it, right. Yeah, 565 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: It's a pretty simple for us to understand, but obviously 566 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: more goes into it for them. And I think that 567 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: if he can start to make that tweak where he's 568 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: able to use the secondary pitches more effectively because they 569 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: have been good for him, it's just how can you 570 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: find that balance with the fastball? Is his money pitch, 571 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: That's what makes Carlos Rodin Carlos Rodan, but also his 572 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: changeup's great and his slider's great too. Just get the 573 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: hitters away from the fastball for now. 574 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: You know, the Yankees have such resources in this area. 575 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: You know, Mike Messina had to transform himself. He was 576 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 2: a strikeout pitcher early in his career. You remember when 577 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: the Yankees got him, he was a big time strikeout guy. 578 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: Sabbathia obviously a big strikeout guy when the Yankees picked 579 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: him up. Even Andy Pettitt towards the end of his 580 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 2: career had to become more of a mix and match guy. 581 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: There have been a lot of guys that they have 582 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: transformed over the years where you kind of saw them 583 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: hit that lull in their career. Remember Cec had a 584 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: couple of years where his era was around five. You 585 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 2: could stay healthy. You know, Mousina had a bad year, 586 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: and then after they started mixing their pitches differently, they 587 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: got better. Jim Cott always says that pitching is about 588 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: disrupting timing, right, and Carlos Rodan just throwing fastball, fastball, fastball, 589 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 2: fastball as not disrupting anybody's timing. In this day and age, 590 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: they have those machines. I'm sure you've seen this story. 591 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 2: You might have even seen the machines where they can 592 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 2: replicate anybody's fastball, anybody's pitches with like a hologram of 593 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: the pitcher. It has spin rate, it has location, So 594 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: you can go in there before the game and program, 595 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: all right, let's throw Carlos Rodin's high fastball right, or 596 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: let's you know, mix in high fastballs and fastballs down 597 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: the middle and be ready for the ones down the middle. 598 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: And now when he's missing with it, you know, you 599 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: can just look at a chart right and see where 600 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: his heat map is on pitches, see where his misses are, 601 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 2: and just gear in for that spot as a hitter. 602 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: You know, but if he's throwing a fast one out 603 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 2: of every three times, you know, mixing in the cutter, 604 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,239 Speaker 2: the change up, the big roundhouse curveball, which I think 605 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: is a good pitch that he doesn't use enough, you know, 606 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: maybe backdoor that for strike one of them every once 607 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: in a while, Like Andy Pettitt used to. I think 608 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 2: that if he starts mixing his pitches, he's still got 609 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: a live arm and it'll make that fastball play up. 610 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: I think as a young pitch, he's still relatively young. 611 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: He's thirty one years old, but he doesn't have a 612 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,239 Speaker 2: ton of mileage because he had so many injuries. Like 613 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 2: it can be tough to see guys start hitting your 614 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: fastball and it can ruin your confidence. We saw him, 615 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: you know, his emotions got the best of him on 616 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: the bench. But I feel like if he starts having 617 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: success with those other pitches early in the count, maybe 618 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: get some strikeouts on the cutter, get some weak contact, 619 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: has a couple of eight pitch innings, and he realized, hey, 620 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: you know, it's not so hard to You don't have 621 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: to grind and sweat through three different fanatics jerseys a 622 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 2: game if you're having some quick innings, right. So, I 623 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: think there's ways out there for Carlos Rodin to make 624 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: some adjustments. Last thing I want to talk about before 625 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: we let Max go is the prospects. We talked a 626 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 2: little bit about Augustine Ramirez. Obviously, the Yankees had a 627 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: shot to call him up earlier this month. When Stanton 628 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: went down, he was already in Triple A, but he'd 629 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: only had about nine at bats. He was one for nine, 630 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 2: recently hit his first home run, but overall has not 631 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: been great offensively in Triple A. 632 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: Ed. 633 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 2: I think the Yankees like to let guys conquer that 634 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: level before they give him the call, right you know, 635 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: we saw that with Volpi, saw that with Domingez. They 636 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: don't need to necessarily leave them there for a long time, 637 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 2: but they liked them to have a little bit of 638 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: success there. So he's obviously a possibility at some point. 639 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 2: But we got some other guys. We got Rumfeld, we 640 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: got Yorbert Vivas, we got some pitchers. I mean, who 641 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: do you see as a young player that could come 642 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: up and contribute second half that maybe hasn't contributed before. 643 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: Sure, I don't know how Rumfield would necessarily fit, as 644 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: much as he has shown some power in triple A. 645 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: I think that Vivus is a great name to throw 646 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: in this discussion because he's going to be in that 647 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: consideration to start at second base next year when when 648 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: Glaber Torres leaves in free agency. If Caleb Durbin was 649 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: health right now, I think he'd be in that discussion 650 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: as well. I don't know if the top of my 651 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: head how versatile Vivas is, but I know that Durbin 652 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: can play all over the place. He's even started playing 653 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: more outfield this year, but he plays a lot of 654 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: third base as well. So in theory, he's a great 655 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: plug in guy for next year's roster two With the 656 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: way that it's probably going to stand and his offensive makeup. 657 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: I just wrote a big story on him, so this 658 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: is fresh. His makeup is great with what the Yankees 659 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: are trying to do right now too. I mean, he 660 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: puts the ball in play at a rate that's higher 661 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: than basically anyone else in baseball. His bat to ball 662 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: skills are innate and something that's always been there for him. 663 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: As much as he's only five foot six, he still 664 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: has a little bit of pop. The defensive versatility makes 665 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: him really valuable. And again, like we talked about with Rice, 666 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: he's cheap. He's cost effective. So rather than having to 667 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: go out and fill a position like that with someone 668 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: who's making fifteen million dollars like Torres, you can just 669 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: plug someone in who's at the minimum. And I don't 670 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: know if they'd go with an infield with Rice and 671 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: Durban or Vivas on opening day. I mean, that's pretty young, 672 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: especially with third base two and both he's young as well. 673 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: But hey, like we talked about at the very top 674 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: of the show, the infield hasn't been good. You got 675 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: to start to make changes at some point. The name 676 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: that I do want to mention though, is Jack Neely. 677 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: And if you don't know too much, about him. He's 678 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: six foot eight, he is from Texas, very confident. There 679 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: you go Neely in the chat or on the same page. 680 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: He only throws two pitches. And when I was in 681 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: Somerset earlier this year, he's now since been called up 682 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: to Triple A scrat and Wilkesbury. I asked him, have 683 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: you ever thought about adding a third pitch? Right? It 684 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: seems like everyone's adding third, fourth, fifth pitches? And he 685 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: was like no, And I was like, He's like, well, basically, 686 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: why would I if my fastball slider mix is this good. 687 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: And the reason why Neely would be great for them 688 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: is his strikeout rate. Since the beginning of the twenty 689 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: twenty three season in all of Affiliated Baseball, of all 690 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: pitchers that have thrown more than one hundred innings, Neely 691 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: has the second best strikeout rate. He's just mowing opponents 692 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: down right, And now there is a test here for 693 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: him in Triple A, where he's only had a handful 694 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: of appearances. I think that they wouldn't have considered him 695 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: with all the turnover in the bullpen when he was 696 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: still in Somerset. But even Matt Blake said the other 697 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: day in Toronto that they're having conversations about him, and 698 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: that's someone that once you bring him up, it's not 699 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: like a Phil Bickford where you're just gonna DFA. You 700 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: put him on the forty man, you probably want him 701 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: to stick. At least you could use his options like 702 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: they do with Ron Marnaccio, for instance. But his ceiling 703 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: is high leverage, if not closer, and I don't know 704 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: how his fastball sliders are going to hang against the 705 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: cream of the crop in the big leagues. Right. There's 706 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: obviously going to be an adjustment there, but he's handled 707 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: every adjustment in the minors, and he grew up in Texas. 708 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: But he loves Delan Betansis and Andrew Miller, those those 709 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: imposing figures on the mound that are just gonna blow 710 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: stuff by you and you know what's coming and you 711 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,919 Speaker 1: still can't hit it. That's really the scouting report with him. 712 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: And again, it's such a perfect fit with what the 713 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 1: Yankees have been needing in their bullpen, right. I mean, 714 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: they need to go out and get veterans at the deadline, 715 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: but that might be a possible solution for them internally 716 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: where it's not going to cost them anything to call 717 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: him up. He's fresh, he's gonna want to do well 718 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: when he comes up, and maybe it's a long term 719 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: solution too. 720 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 2: I remember they had this guy Nelson something I can't 721 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 2: remember his name was, just came up and through gas 722 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, made a really great impression, 723 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 2: and then he just kind of disappeared. Remember, yeah, right, 724 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 2: Ridings writings Nelson. Why am I thinking Nelson? Yeah right, yeah, 725 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 2: rioting Stephen Ridings. He was filthy. I mean, it came 726 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 2: up one hundred mile an hour gas on the corners 727 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 2: in his first game, Like, what the hell is this guy? Ben? 728 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 2: And then we like never saw him again. Crazy. I 729 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 2: mean that's you know, pitching. I mean, that's why it's 730 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 2: so valuable, because guys break down. Right. So all right, 731 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 2: before I let you go, prediction, give me one player 732 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 2: that you think not on the Yankees right now that 733 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 2: after the trade deadline will. 734 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: Be Oh my goodness, Oh it's so tough. Uh can 735 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: you go first, give me a second. 736 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 2: I'll take two. I'll say David Robertson and Ryan McMahon 737 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: will be Yankees. 738 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: See, but McMahon, I don't know if the Rockies are 739 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: going to trade him, and. 740 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 2: I think they should be. He's twenty nine years old. 741 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 2: They're not going to win this year. I think they 742 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 2: could be compelled to move him. I think you can 743 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 2: make that case. Okay, that's why we pay Brian Cashman 744 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 2: the highest salary for a GM. Basically, you know, go 745 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 2: out and get this guy. We need him. 746 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like, maybe it's not Ursic, but that 747 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: type of pitcher, like you said earlier, that second tier. 748 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: It's not Mason Miller, it's not Tanner Scott, but this 749 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 1: is a high leverage guy that has pitched really well, 750 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: not gonna cost you that much. It's still going to 751 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: be a you know, a sacrifice there to get someone 752 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: like that who has crazy upside, but him or I 753 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: don't think it's Crochet or maybe Kopek. I don't know. 754 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: It's again, it's it should be easier. But the way 755 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: that the wildcard situation is right now, you just don't 756 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,919 Speaker 1: know who's going to be traded, and even the guys 757 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: that are going to be traded, there's going to be 758 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: so many teams that want them. And I don't know 759 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: if the Yankees should just unload their farm system. As 760 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: much as the caveat is right, I mean this is 761 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 1: their best chance to win since who knows when two 762 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: thousand and nine, right, I mean, you only have one 763 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: year upon Sodo before you do re sign him. This 764 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: is your one shot with him. Cole and Judge are 765 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: not getting any younger. You got to push all the 766 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: chips forward. And like we talked about earlier, you know, 767 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: Cashman's here right now, but who knows if he's going 768 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: to be years from now. And obviously he feels the pressure. 769 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: Steinbergner feels the pressure. If if there was ever a 770 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: time for how to say okay to just a huge deadline, 771 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 1: it would be now because of the way last season 772 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: went too so as much as the Orioles will probably 773 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: still be the favorite in the division. Unless the Yankees 774 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: just go crazy at the deadline and everyone stays healthy 775 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 1: and everyone starts to produce, there's a lot for them 776 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: to do. And I think that they can still do 777 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: really well in the playoffs. But there's a lot of ifs. 778 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: I know that's kind of a cop out answer, but 779 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: there will be trades and they will get better at 780 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: the deadline, corresponding with guys coming back from the injured 781 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: list and all that. But you got to get hot 782 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: at the right time, right, I mean they will be 783 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: a playoff team. It's not like they're going to miss 784 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs. 785 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 2: But right, it's like Derek Jener always says, it's not 786 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 2: the best team that wins, it's the hot I's look 787 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 2: at the d Backs last year, eighty four wins made 788 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 2: it to the World Series. We're just looking for that 789 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 2: right mix. And having a sixty home run caliber hitter 790 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 2: and judge and having you know, Garrett Cole on your staff. 791 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 2: These things are not common. It's not gonna be this way. 792 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 2: In five years, Judge will be over the hill, Garrett 793 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 2: Cole will probably be gone. So like you said, now 794 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 2: is the time Yanks gotta do something. I say, be bold, 795 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 2: but don't trade Domingez. That's my position. All right, ladies 796 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 2: and gentlemen, thanks for watching. Reminder reminder to subscribe. We're 797 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 2: on a mission to fifty thousand. Go ahead and follow 798 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 2: Max Goodman all his great work, his great writing on 799 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 2: NJ dot com and Max is it at Max T. Goodman? 800 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 2: Is that the yep? Max D. Goodman on X and 801 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 2: I am Derek and we will see you when we 802 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 2: see it. Appreciate it, Max, you got it. 803 00:39:35,719 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 1: Thanks O