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Speaker 1: Welcome back to forties and free Agents.

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Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal, joined as always by Daniel Jeremiah.

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Speaker 1: He is off the.

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Speaker 2: Streets, beating the path, you know, evaluating all the draft

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Speaker 2: prospects for the NFL network. He was Inmobile all week

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Speaker 2: and he is back in San Diego, but in like

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Speaker 2: a guest room or something because he broke his glass desk.

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Speaker 3: Still still don't know what happened. Great mystery, what happened

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Speaker 3: to the glass desk? But I am in a I'm

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Speaker 3: in the guest room which used to be my daughter's room.

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Speaker 3: So the desk that I'm operating on right now very

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Speaker 3: much for like a ten year old, and it's a

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Speaker 3: little it's a little slammed in there.

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Speaker 1: Wait, what happened? You get you get too angry when.

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Speaker 3: You're watching in this blanket, So she was a kid.

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Speaker 3: It's like a burrito, so you kind of fold it

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Speaker 3: up like it's a burrito blanket. So that's what I'm

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Speaker 3: sitting on. That's what I'm sitting on right now, Greg,

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Speaker 3: because maybe the most uncomfortable office share that's ever been.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can check out this great production value

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Speaker 2: at some point on the NFL YouTube channel too, they're

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Speaker 2: putting it up there.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you were at the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk a little bit about what you

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Speaker 2: saw in Mobile, some prospects that stood out to you.

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Speaker 2: We're going to start previewing the real rankings that people

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Speaker 2: care about. The free agency rankings. I mean this draft stuff.

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Speaker 2: Half of them aren't even going to work out. We

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Speaker 2: talk about real deal pros in the top one to

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Speaker 2: one free agency rankings. So we're going to go over

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Speaker 2: my running back rankings. I actually we're going to play

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Speaker 2: a little segment. You don't even know this. You can

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Speaker 2: help me with my rankings. I'm trying to sort out

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Speaker 2: different tiers and maybe we'll get your feedback, and then

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Speaker 2: we're going to look at some of the coaching hires too.

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Speaker 3: Let me just hit you with this real quick. So

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Speaker 3: the draft is late April, right, Yes, so I have

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Speaker 3: to rank player. You ranked players. I ranked players. So

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Speaker 3: the draft is in late April. My list came out

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Speaker 3: what two weeks ago? When does free agency start again?

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Speaker 1: March? Yeah, mid March, March tenth, something like that. I

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Speaker 1: should know this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, any chance we see those rankings before.

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Speaker 2: Well, they like to they like to drop it with

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Speaker 2: maximum impact right before the Scouting combine. So so we're

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Speaker 2: we're working hard on it. We're going to be at

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Speaker 2: the scouting combine along with you DJ talking to people

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Speaker 2: and getting all the buzz. But yeah, well that's why

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Speaker 2: people got to listen to forties and free agents. We'll

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Speaker 2: be previewing them here.

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Speaker 3: Can we drop some though, Like I know the overall yes,

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Speaker 3: one hundred hundred one to one comes out, but I

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Speaker 3: think yes, forties and free agents can offer us. Hey,

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Speaker 3: maybe we take positions. Okay, kind of roll as we go.

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Speaker 3: That's the value add here. And by the way, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Week will do tight ends. I like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody I talked to it the Senior Bowl like that.

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Speaker 3: They love forties and free agents. They're they're uh, they're

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Speaker 3: rocking with us on this thing.

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Speaker 2: So good, just like they just like that. You give

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Speaker 2: me a hard time every time.

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Speaker 3: No, but they think you're smart. I mean they didn't

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Speaker 3: say it, but I think they think it. You know,

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Speaker 3: maybe I'm just projecting there. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Now I feel uncomfortable because you said something nice about

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Speaker 2: me for the first time on this show. Let's talk

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Speaker 2: seniable where I wish at some point I really am

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Speaker 2: going to try to catch up to DJ because I

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Speaker 2: can do multiple things, you know, I can do free

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Speaker 2: agency and the draft, but DJ is the expert, and

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Speaker 2: we're here for your takes.

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Speaker 1: And I watched some of the coverage.

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Speaker 2: I read some of the coverage hit me with maybe

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Speaker 2: a big picture takeaway from the class that was at

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Speaker 2: the Senior ball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that there's things you can take away

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Speaker 3: from these All Star games. Is kind of like a

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Speaker 3: good defensive line draft, especially on the perimeter with edge rushers.

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Speaker 3: We had some really good guys down there. TJ. Parker

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Speaker 3: I took a bite of that apple before the Senior

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Speaker 3: I know he's not getting as much buzz and talking

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Speaker 3: So that was kind of like the first takeaways and

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Speaker 3: the world. Cal Payton from North Dakota State flashed a

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Speaker 2: I want to follow up on something he said with

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Speaker 2: nuss Meyer and it might go for t J. Parker too,

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Speaker 2: you know, two seasons ago, do you see the hype

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Speaker 1: You mentioned that the edge rusher, if.

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Speaker 2: They can show that level of production at a big

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Speaker 2: So like, how do you how do you balance that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point. I would say, first of all,

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Speaker 3: Max Claire is a tight end from Ohio State this

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Speaker 3: So I think those positions are a little different than quarterback.

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Speaker 3: to my notes on nuss Meyer before this season, and

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Speaker 3: And I don't know that I'm really you know, coming

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Speaker 3: Parker I thought was a top fifteen pick coming into

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Speaker 3: back of one, if that makes sense. Quarterbacks is kind

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Speaker 3: of its own its own island over there.

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Speaker 2: I guess it's also like, what what level are we

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Speaker 2: talking about? Ben People could argue a little bit about

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Speaker 2: Drake May's final year at UNC or even Caleb Williams

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Speaker 3: That was they played at such a high consistent level.

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Speaker 3: I mean we're talking about Heisman Trophy, you know. For

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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams like played an elite off the charts level

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Speaker 3: grade the flashes, like the high points of players at quarterback,

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Speaker 3: let's go on him. Whereas like Drake May played like

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Speaker 3: Caleb played like the you know, once a decade type

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Speaker 1: There by the way.

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Speaker 2: It's funny I've noticed with these GM situations around the league,

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Speaker 2: people trying to take credit now for liking Drake May

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Speaker 2: that Minnesota really wanted to trade up for Drake May

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Speaker 2: and they didn't get them. And the Giants and Joe

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Speaker 2: May and they didn't get It's like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could have.

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Speaker 2: I could have told you Drake May was great, and

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Speaker 2: Drake May would have been the number one overall pick

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Speaker 2: in a lot of these drafts. I think he would

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Speaker 2: have been in the Kyler Murray draft or the Bryce

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Speaker 2: Young drafter, the km wore draft. This like, you don't

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Speaker 2: need to be Gene. I'm not giving you credit for

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Speaker 2: trying to trade out them for Jake Me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say that in those two instances, I

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Speaker 3: of those organizations before those drafts, and at least I

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Speaker 3: can confirm this is not some revisionist history I know.

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Speaker 1: No, I believe it.

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Speaker 3: They were both very aggressive and trying to do that.

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Speaker 3: It just you weren't they weren't gonna they weren't going

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Speaker 3: there with New England and wisely so it's just another reminder, though,

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Speaker 3: this is a great reminder of where where you pick

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Speaker 3: that not all top three picks are the same. I

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Speaker 3: was man, we have we had daily kind of discussions

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Speaker 3: and heated discussions about you know, okay, well Caleb's played

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Speaker 3: He got he got hurt. Didn't he get hurt in?

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Speaker 2: They put up forty points and they gave up fourteen

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Speaker 3: You know what's amazing and I'm pretty sure these are

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Speaker 2: He's been incredible and you know who played about the

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna.

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Speaker 3: Have a nice style for everybody career.

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Speaker 1: That that's the two lane coverage for today.

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Speaker 2: I did do some homework on the Senior Bowl before

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Speaker 2: we moved on, mostly just like reading your article and

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Speaker 1: Can? You can?

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Speaker 3: Truth? Truth be told like the top fifty list and

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Speaker 3: Dan Parr is there, editor is Jordon there. So I

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Speaker 3: all this all right, Dan, let's rip through these guys

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Speaker 3: and then I dictate to him this guy, this is

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Speaker 2: Well, you hit on a lot of the guys that

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Speaker 2: The other question would be on Maliki Field too. It

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Speaker 1: I looked at the consensus board.

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Speaker 3: I like the idea. I can't understand what it means.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but just to get a feel of, like what

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Speaker 2: in this draft, tell me a little bit about Malachi

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Speaker 3: Yeah, six four two eighteen so ideal size. But he

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Speaker 3: can you know, he can get off press, which is

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Speaker 3: able to get offul line of scrimment? He does that easily.

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Speaker 3: On tape. He did it really well at the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 3: He made some spectacular catches. His pit game is going

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Speaker 3: The plays that he made in that game, including an

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Speaker 3: was clearly the best receiver there. I mean, it wasn't

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Speaker 3: even close. And he's built like a power forward. He's

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Speaker 3: he scores, and he's like, yeah, apparently he did. That

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Speaker 2: Love that and yeah, we look. I'm a basic. I

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Speaker 2: like focusing on the skill positions. That's all I ask

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Speaker 2: you about, because we're going to be talking about these

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Speaker 3: Why did Gavin put March eleven? Is that is that

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Speaker 3: when your list comes.

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Speaker 2: Out, that is, I believe, the first day of free agency.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's also my anniversary, so I'll be able to

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Speaker 3: remember that easily.

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Speaker 1: So congratulations. How many years will it be?

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Speaker 3: I was I got married in two thousands, so I

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Speaker 3: pretty easy.

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Speaker 2: Twenty six okay, okay, and then you're done with the kids, right,

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Speaker 2: you know you're you're oldest is now almost out of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm done. Yeah, the oldest youngest. I got them

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Speaker 2: Man, It's what a world DJ is going to have

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Speaker 1: It's going to be fun. Let's talk rankings, the real rankings.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's debut some rankings in terms of free agency.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk running backs. It is an awesome group in

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Speaker 2: easier to find running backs, and I do find that

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Speaker 2: Ken Walker, and you know, there's a great three pack

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Speaker 2: right now. It's a group, it's a cluster like your drafts.

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Speaker 2: It's Ken Walker, Kenneth Walker, you know where we've seen

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Speaker 2: just the creativity, the explosive ability, really rare movement. Travis

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Speaker 1: Was more because of the people aroun him.

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Speaker 2: He actually has high for rushing yards this year, so

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Speaker 2: slightly different. But actually I think a lot of similarities

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Speaker 3: Wow, those are three. There are three really really good players.

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Speaker 3: I think there's going to be some recency bias that's

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Speaker 3: go Etn, I would go Walker.

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Speaker 2: Brisall. He's a big playmaker. And yeah, I usually don't

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Speaker 3: I want to do some on the job homework here.

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Speaker 1: What was that?

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Speaker 3: I would love to know what the carries were from

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Speaker 3: I'm pulling it up right now.

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Speaker 1: This year it was very similar between the three of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Kenneth Walker.

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Speaker 2: When you look at the total production in terms of

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Speaker 2: hundred yards this year. The thing about ETN that I like,

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Speaker 2: If you watch what he did this year, and I

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Speaker 2: And then the thing that he's given you is he's

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Speaker 1: A great job.

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Speaker 2: You've got to give credit to the offense, but he

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Speaker 1: He's one on one.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's it's the scheme, but it's like, hey, you're

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Speaker 2: And so you can use him a different a lot

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know there's a wrong answer though, to

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Speaker 3: But Kenneth Walker, what he did, you know in the

438
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,440
Speaker 3: last game that we saw the most recent view of it,

439
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,360
Speaker 3: the move and the hole to be able to make

440
00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,920
Speaker 3: you miss was outrageous, you know, just showing you that's

441
00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,119
Speaker 3: the that's the athlete that he is, like the you know,

442
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,399
Speaker 3: kind of an electric player. But I think it's just

443
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,080
Speaker 3: a pure, you know, vision feel runner. I would you know,

444
00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,240
Speaker 3: I'd probably have him third on this list.

445
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he he doesn't always go to the hole that's blocked,

446
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 2: So I think around the NFL he might be third

447
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 2: on this list because he's a little more unpredictable than

448
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:04,880
Speaker 2: the other two.

449
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 3: Dynamic is hecked all.

450
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,879
Speaker 2: I mean, really, there is something you could make the

451
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 2: case after Bajon and just in terms of pure job

452
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,240
Speaker 2: dropping like movement, explosive ability to kind of make you

453
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,480
Speaker 2: miss it and open. There aren't many running backs in

454
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 2: the league that are better than Kenneth Walker. So all

455
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:23,959
Speaker 2: three of them are really intrigued.

456
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, this would not be a slight on any

457
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 3: of these three guys. I think it's I think whichever

458
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 3: one of these guys goes to the better you know

459
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,679
Speaker 3: system offensive line play caller is going to have the

460
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 3: you know, the better future. I'm just I'm curious to

461
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 3: see with Breese Hall with a legitimate passing game to

462
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 3: kind of free some things up and loosen some things up.

463
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,199
Speaker 3: I think you see more of those dynamic runsies capable of.

464
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 2: My prediction is he's going to remain in New York

465
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,719
Speaker 2: Jet ultimately and that it will tag him because they

466
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 2: have the space. The franchise tag for running backs is

467
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,920
Speaker 2: just not that much. It's eleven or twelve million dollars.

468
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 2: I think in a one year deal at a position

469
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 2: where you're worried about the long term, I think they'll

470
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 2: be They'll think, let's just not have to worry about

471
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 2: that position. I could be wrong and the Seahawks could

472
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 2: think the same with Kenneth Walker will find out.

473
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Speaker 3: I'll be a little as the City Chiefs should be

474
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 3: in on all three of these guys.

475
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 2: By the way, yes, the reporting was that they did

476
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 2: not want to give up a third round pick. I

477
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 2: believe it was for Briestol. During the season, some of

478
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 2: their fans were upset. I think I think it made

479
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 2: sense not to give up the pick.

480
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,120
Speaker 3: So vont Williams names give more names here.

481
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 2: Gavanti Williams is next. He's sort of in a category

482
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 2: of his own. Looked like a different player to me

483
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 2: coming off of a really serious injury.

484
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 1: I thought he had his best year this year.

485
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 2: I mean, he's the old phrase, a rolling ball of

486
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 2: butcher injury it is. It is tough to get him down,

487
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 2: and I think he fits that cowboy system well. Wouldn't

488
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 2: surprise me if if they bring him back. So to me,

489
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 2: he's a solid fourth and will probably have a pretty

490
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 2: nice overall ranking. And after that then then I get

491
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 2: into the backs.

492
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 3: Is it a bowling ball, knives or rolling bowl of

493
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 3: which your knud either way, bowl and bowl in the

494
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 3: China shop is a similar something like that.

495
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 2: I love, I love what Javonte Williams did after that.

496
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 2: Then to me, it's guys who are going to be

497
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,199
Speaker 2: like one be guys. So it's the different flavors, and

498
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: these are in order. Uh, it's it's the kind of

499
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 2: more physical backs, and I would put it in this order.

500
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: Rico Dowdle, you know, had a pretty solid two years

501
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 2: there with the Panthers, Tyler Alzier, who's been a great

502
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 2: one bee behind Bijan Naje Harris who's coming off the

503
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 2: injury but obviously was an intriguing pick.

504
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: Up look good before he got hurt for your charge,

505
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: and JK. Dobbins.

506
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 2: And so that's one flavor of kind of one bee

507
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 2: and then Kenny Gainwell and Rashad White, who I think.

508
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 3: Are oh low on You're low on Gainwell.

509
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 2: See when I when I actually sort all these guys,

510
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 2: I think Gainwell is gonna actually be the top of

511
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 2: all these backups. But when I was presenting it to you,

512
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: I kind of wanted to give you I thought that

513
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 2: these guys were kind of one bees behind the Javante

514
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 2: Williams and the three above.

515
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,239
Speaker 1: But I do think Gainwey will be fit.

516
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 3: I think I think from a pay standpoint and who's

517
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: going to be valued the most. I think that you

518
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 3: could put Gainwell up there with Javonte Williams.

519
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: That's fair.

520
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 2: I tend to agree team MVP for the Pittsburgh Steelers

521
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 2: this year. And I think Rashad White is an underrated player,

522
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 2: Like he's not he's not a perfect player, but he blocks,

523
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 2: he is unreal on passing downs, and he's a he's

524
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 2: a pretty good runner action. They were more effective running

525
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 2: the ball with him this year at times than with

526
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 2: Bucky Irving. And then you know your guy Najah Harris

527
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: got hurt for the Chargers last year. But that's a

528
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 2: good if depending on what you need. A running back

529
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 2: like that is a really deep, good group. All those

530
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: guys are going to make my top one on one.

531
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that is a really good group. Yeah to me,

532
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 3: those last two names, to me are more interesting than

533
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 3: I know. Daddall's has played well, Algier, Harris, Dobbins, you've

534
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: got injuries, You've got maybe not the most explosive guys there.

535
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: I would be more intrigued with the Gainwell White combination

536
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 3: up there with Javonte Woyd.

537
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 2: Okay, I like that you're helping me do the ring.

538
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: I I agree, gain well, if if it was my team,

539
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 2: and that is how I should do it, because who knows,

540
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 2: maybe they'll call me someday.

541
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 3: Somebody else's mistakes. So that's what they That's what I

542
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 3: was told very early on.

543
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: That could be the next quessay at Dophamenta, having seventeen

544
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 2: different articles dissecting what went wrong when when my tenure

545
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 2: as an experimental GM blows up in my face.

546
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been Uh, I've been in the player bubble

547
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: trying to get three hundred and thirty plus guys watch

548
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 3: for the uh for the comment. But I have noticed

549
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: that every time I go, I'm a you know, outfl

550
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: dot com. We got the athletic ESPN dot com. There's

551
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 3: a lot of Minnesota Vikings.

552
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: It's a lot of it's a lot of Vikings.

553
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: It's floating out there.

554
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: It's a lot of vikingstock.

555
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 2: And then just for for those who are complete us

556
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: out there, uh, deeper down the list, Uh, just some

557
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 2: names that will be available. Isaiah Pacheco to me, just

558
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 2: hasn't looked the same post injury, not the complete type

559
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 2: of player, probably not going to be making my one

560
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 2: on one. Nick Chubb Kareem Hunt, Julia mcloffin, Brian Robinson,

561
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 2: Jerome for just some guys that will be added to

562
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: teams as depth dept. Can tell you.

563
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 3: You know what interesting one in that list to me?

564
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 3: And maybe it's because I just see him twice a

565
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 3: year in the AFC West, But Julia mcloffin, every time

566
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 3: I have in the stadium when he's playing, he makes

567
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 3: a play like he just he's a little something to him.

568
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 2: He's not a throwaway, including in the NFC Championship game.

569
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: I need to check that he might be a restricted

570
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 2: free agent, but I haven't written down.

571
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break.

572
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: We're going to go over the new coaching hires and

573
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: just what impact that could have in the offseason before

574
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: we get out of here and let you get back

575
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: to valuating all those players.

576
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: Well, we've done it, DJ.

577
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: The NFL has successfully filled all ten head coaching jobs,

578
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: even if the tenth one is not confers. It is

579
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 2: expected that Clint Kubiak will be the next Raiders head coach.

580
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 2: Based on all the reporting at NFL Network. If you

581
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 2: just add up the different reports from Ian Rappaport and

582
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 2: Tom Pellisero, it sure sounds like Clint Kubiak essentially chose

583
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: the Raiders over the Cardinals, which I don't know how

584
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: that's gonna make Matt Lafleur, i mean, Mike Laffler feel

585
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: because that ultimately was the tenth job to get filled.

586
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: It kind of did feel like it was the tenth

587
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: most attractive job, and that Mike Lafluer was the tenth

588
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: guy to get hired, and a crop of candidates that

589
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 2: didn't get everyone that excited around the league, but they

590
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: were the last two two get filled.

591
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: And we're going to go through a few of them.

592
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 2: But why don't we start at the end if you

593
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,719
Speaker 2: if you have any thoughts on just like now, what

594
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: those two teams are going to be looking for. Obviously, Kubiak,

595
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 2: we presume did it with the knowledge that he gets

596
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: to pick his quarterback at number one.

597
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the you know, I like to move there.

598
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: And the decision between Vegas and Arizona would have been

599
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 3: a very easy decision. And not just saying that personally,

600
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: but just being around the vast majority of folks in

601
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 3: the league this last week, it was clearly, you know, hey,

602
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 3: Vegas can be an exciting job because you've got a

603
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: chance to get the quarterback here with Fernanda Mendoza coming up,

604
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 3: and I know I saw this discussion. I think it

605
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: was Dan Patrick with Rich the other day and DP,

606
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: who I love, was talking about I don't know if

607
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 3: the Raiders are positioned to take a quarterback right now

608
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: because the offensive line is so bad. And he invoked

609
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 3: like the David Carr situation when he went to Houston

610
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: and the pushback I would have on that. So I

611
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: think it's you know, that's solid reasoning. But we have

612
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 3: a team playing in the Super Bowl, as you know,

613
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: that rebuilt four fifths of their offensive line in one offseason.

614
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 3: I can't imagine if they would have said we're not

615
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 3: going to take Drake May the year before because their

616
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 3: offensive line was in tatters, when in fact it was

617
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,239
Speaker 3: rebuilt within twenty four months. Like that, that's not the

618
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: biggest hill to climb as it used to be. So

619
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears went from a bottom five offensive line

620
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: to a top five to eight offensive line from Caleb

621
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 3: Williams first year to his second year. They have a

622
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: functional left tackle already, which is probably the hardest piece

623
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 3: to find in Colton Miller, you know, and then they've

624
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: got some other promising players that are young powers Johnson

625
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 3: and Glaze, like they've got some ability. You go out

626
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: free agency, signed one or two, you draft one or

627
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 3: two that bad, terrible, awful offensive line, you also upgrade

628
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 3: the offensive line coach. That's not a to me, there's

629
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: no compelling case for them not to take a quarterback.

630
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 3: And so that's taking a coach discussion and flipping it

631
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: right back to the draft as I like to do, Greg.

632
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: But that's where I stand on that one.

633
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: No, that's how we want to look at at this discussion,

634
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: and like how these teams are going to build. I

635
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: think just from a roster standpoint, the Raiders before adding

636
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: Mendoza and now we can assume they're going to you know,

637
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: could be thirty two out of thirty two in terms

638
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: of total talent. They do have left tackle and Max Crosby,

639
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: so they have two premiere you know. Colton Miller, I

640
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: don't know if you call him a premier player, but

641
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: a very good left tackle. Ten he's a top four

642
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: left tackle and in the last you know year, I

643
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: think some would argue when he was healthy, like even

644
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 2: better than that. Likes he's one of those tackles kind

645
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: of like Garrett Bowles, who's getting better and better as

646
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: he gets older. And so those are a couple couple

647
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: of players. But defensively you got a long way to go.

648
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: But you have Rock Bowers, you have Ashton Genty in place.

649
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm with you.

650
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: I just think for first of all, I can see

651
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: why you got so far in this career because you

652
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: were like, that's a very strong argument. It's a reasonable

653
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: case because you're talking about you know, someone you respect

654
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Speaker 2: in Love Patrick and all, I don't know Dan Patrick,

655
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: he doesn't know me. It's not a good argument. I

656
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: never buy that argument. Always take the quarterback, don't over

657
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: You should always be taking quarterbacks until you get one.

658
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: Forget about what's going to be there one.

659
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 3: Of my I think that same argument though works for

660
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: running backs.

661
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: Sure I agree agree with that, but I have a friend.

662
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: You always say how you hear from people in your

663
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: life who like the podcast, And you heard that and

664
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: mobile that makes me feel good.

665
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: The forties and Freedoms. Of course they love move the

666
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: Sticks too.

667
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: Maybe my friend Adam who hosts the Saints Block Party podcast.

668
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: You know, for half the season, before they saw what

669
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck could be, they were all in that boat too,

670
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: and he loves this podcast. He loves how much grief

671
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: that you're But they were like, oh, the Saints can't

672
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: be taken a quarterback next year because they won't be

673
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: ready anyways. They got to, you know, just get back like, no,

674
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: you always take a quarterback when you can take it,

675
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: and so they're going to. And that's why I think

676
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: the Cardinals are in such a difficult position. I mean,

677
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: Micha Lafleur is that's a tough fold. But that division,

678
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: it just it's life changing money for a coach too,

679
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: to get that five year contract, whatever the money is.

680
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: And I don't think that can be dismissed or you

681
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: might never get an opportunity you want to take a swing.

682
00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:00,239
Speaker 2: But they are really pushing uphill. To be in that

683
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: division against those three coaches and to not have a quarterback,

684
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: it's going.

685
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: To be difficult.

686
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't know what really the identity is.

687
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 3: It's not I don't know. You look at it and say, well,

688
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 3: but they're great here. I mean they got a stud

689
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 3: tight end, you know, a really really good tight end,

690
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 3: got a couple interesting offensive linemen. But I don't think

691
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: that they've hit the level that they need to be

692
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: at consistent. There's just a lot of homework to do there,

693
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: and then there's just the kind of the mess you're

694
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: in with with Kyler Murray. I almost wonder if it's

695
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: if it's worth it to say we've got a new

696
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 3: voice in here, like let's give Kyler Murray another shot.

697
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: I just don't know where you're going to You're not

698
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: going to get a more talented quarterback than him this offseason.

699
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: I feel very confident in saying that you can. And

700
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: I don't think that you're going to be an attractive

701
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 3: landing spot for somebody like a Malik Willis. He's going

702
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: to find playing time somewhere else with a more desirable

703
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: setup than that one. So I I don't know. I'm

704
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 3: curious to see what they end up doing there with

705
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 3: the quarterback.

706
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: Like they need to find someone that's going to fill

707
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: that scheme. And I am curious from an evaluator, like

708
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: putting yourself in the mind of the front offices at

709
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: some point. And Kubiak is essentially an offshoot of this

710
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: larger tree, obviously the son of Gary Kubiak, who Jenahan

711
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: you know once you know worked for Mike Shanahan. Gary Kubiak,

712
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: of course, gave Kyle Shanahan his first offensive coordinator job

713
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: in Houston, so that those two were working together, and

714
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: then they were all together in Washington, the Shanahan and Kuba.

715
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: There's just it's all it's all to, you know, mix

716
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: it again at some point, isn't it diminishing returns because

717
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: you're all looking for similar skill sets in similar players

718
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: in terms of the type of players that you're gonna get,

719
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: and especially inside this I mean, the division is just

720
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: crazy that how similar it's going to look between Shanahan,

721
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: McVeigh and Mike Lafleur. Isn't it going to be harder

722
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: to get these guys in the draft with the types

723
00:32:58,960 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: of traits that they want.

724
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Speaker 3: I think there's so many people running that now that

725
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 3: it goes so far beyond that division. I mean, I

726
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: would say at least half the league is running a

727
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: similar offshoot of offense, and they've all put their own

728
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 3: little stamp on it. Maybe even two thirds of the

729
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: league is doing this stuff. So I think you're all

730
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: competing for the same players. It's why it was fascinated

731
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,719
Speaker 3: to see McVeigh be the first one to kind of

732
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: deviate to go get two big guards and to then

733
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: say we're gonna run duo and we're going to be

734
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 3: a downhill. We need to move people off the line

735
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 3: of scrimmage, physical type team, because I think some of

736
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 3: that was scarcity of like trying to find these ultra

737
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 3: athletic wide zone offensive linemen that can move like that.

738
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Speaker 3: We're all we're there's a very limited pool and we're

739
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: all swimming in it here. So I think all these

740
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 3: guys who've had similar training and background and family connections,

741
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: they've all tried to put their own little spin on

742
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: this thing.

743
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 2: And Klaik Kubiak is coming from, you know, a situation

744
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: where he gets that guy Gray's Abel, you know, in

745
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: the first round and.

746
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: They made put on this earth offense, right.

747
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: And then see, yeah, like he's no longer there, Like

748
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: he had a nice year, but he has been bouncing around.

749
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: Talk about you know, you always talk about quarterbacks who

750
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: have a new coordinator every year, Like he just has

751
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: a new job every year. San Francisco to New Orleans,

752
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: he was in Minnesota to now the Raiders. It's going

753
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: to be difficult flying through. You know, some of the

754
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: other coaching hires that that are most recent, Todd Mounkin

755
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: takes over that Brown's job. They're ten million dollars over

756
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: the cap. I don't want to repeat kind of the

757
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: the overall preview for these teams that that we did,

758
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: but imagining, you know what with what you know of

759
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: Todd Munkin, Like what do you think they're going to

760
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 2: be looking for Because they have an entire offensive line

761
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 2: to replace, They're going to need to figure out their

762
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: quarterback situation. Like what is what does a Todd Munkin

763
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 2: Andrew Berry collaboration look like?

764
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Speaker 3: Well, it's going to be starting with a blank slate.

765
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, from an offensive standpoint, they've got

766
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: some key you know, some key positions filled with the

767
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 3: tight ends who's a stud and Love Judkins the running back,

768
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: but they have so many other pieces to fill in,

769
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 3: including an entire offensive line. They kind of build it

770
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 3: however they want. And to me, I always look at

771
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: guys of you know, what would it look like? What

772
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: would the build look like? Okay, well where has he

773
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: had the most success and what did that scheme, player profile,

774
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 3: you know, roster construction look like. Well, we won two

775
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 3: national championships in college at Georgia where they were the biggest,

776
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 3: baddest bully on the block. So to me, trying to

777
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 3: build up size and physicality and then using that to

778
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: kind of be the basis of their offense. I think

779
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 3: that's probably where they start, which would mean you're looking

780
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 3: at offensive linemen and free agency as you're trying to

781
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: play matchmaker, Greg, I think you're looking for bigger, you know,

782
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: powerful guys you look in the draft. I think I

783
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 3: had them taking Cayden Proctor from Alabama, who's three hundred

784
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: and fifty plus pound tackle. They could keep Dwan Jones healthy.

785
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 3: He's you know, he's a mountain of a man. Like

786
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 3: I think big is probably the way they go. And

787
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 3: I think on the quarterback, I don't think you I mean,

788
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe I'm reading into it, but like

789
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 3: the first piece of content you see is him embracing

790
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 3: Shaduur and talking about how we wanted to draft in Baltimore.

791
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: That's the first introduction that you get to him as

792
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 3: someone who's already been in this building, you know, with

793
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 3: under Freddy Kitchens in a forgettable era for his introduction,

794
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 3: and that to be a part of the introduction feels

795
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: to me like He's going to get every opportunity to

796
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 3: be that guy this year and then you know, however,

797
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: this year goes and forms what you do with all

798
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 3: your picks in twenty seven.

799
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Speaker 1: I think that's right.

800
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: I think he'll be paired with some sort of veteran option.

801
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: But as we went over last week with the free

802
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: agent quarterbacks, you get pretty quickly to probably a backup

803
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: as a veteran quarterback option. There's not a lot of

804
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: high tier options out there. I'm going to put you

805
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 2: on the spot. I'm throwing a tough one at you

806
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: because Jim Leonard was hired in Buffalo to be Joe

807
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: Brady's defensive coordinator. We didn't talk about the Joe Brady

808
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: high but ultimately he was the coordinator. He is going

809
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: to change some things in how the building runs, but

810
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: the offense, yeah, he was there. And so I'm thinking

811
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: more about Jim Leonard, who has been kind of a

812
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: hot name. Maybe the average fan doesn't know him too much,

813
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: but he's been in college and then been under Sean

814
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: Payton and Vance Joseph in Denver.

815
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: Like that's going to be interesting.

816
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have any thoughts of like

817
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: the types of players or what changes maybe from a

818
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: McDermott defense to a Jim Leonard defense there.

819
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: I think just maybe speed, you know, I just thinking

820
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: about Jim Leonard. You know, it's an attacking group that

821
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: they had there in Denver, but just that was a

822
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: very very fast defense, and I don't know that. You know,

823
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 3: you look at Buffalo's front seven. They've got a bunch

824
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 3: of solid players, but there's no real, you know, fast

825
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 3: fast balls coming at you. So I would guess maybe

826
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 3: just trying to be a little bit more dynamic with

827
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: that with that group at the first level and with

828
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 3: the linebacker position, just getting guys who can really really run.

829
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 3: That would be my guess of what that might look like.

830
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're learning, like with some of these hires,

831
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: what they're going to do, what they're not going to do.

832
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: We were already hearing Kirk Cousins. You know, despite the

833
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 2: connection or maybe because of the connection to Stevanski, they're

834
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 2: not going to keep him in Atlanta. They also don't have,

835
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: you know, a first round pick, so they're going to

836
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 2: have to be very active in free agency in terms

837
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: of what they want to do addressing the offensive line

838
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: in different offensive positions. Jesse Minter hires Declan Doyle as

839
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: the offensive cordab in Baltimore.

840
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: Why do you think that's a fun one.

841
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,959
Speaker 3: I just think you're taking somebody. Is he the same

842
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 3: age as Lamar? I think, isn't he right? The same

843
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 3: age and someone I, honestly I've never met. I don't know.

844
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 3: I was asking about him at the Senior Bowlers, the

845
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: people that have been around him, and it's all really

846
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: good feedback. Just bright, young guy and kind of grouping

847
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 3: him with Yudinsky and like two guys who were just

848
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 3: kind of ahead of their time a little bit and

849
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: the timeline of things being so young and you know,

850
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 3: progressing through their careers. But he's creative. I thought they

851
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 3: did a great job, you know, to get a chance

852
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: to learn or been Johnson and the job they did

853
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: with Caleb is he just got better and better and

854
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: better throughout the year. I'm curious to see how, you know,

855
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: how how Lamar takes to that and how Lamar enjoys

856
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 3: being coached by somebody literally his own age.

857
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: Mmm.

858
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: And like we assume that he's going to take a

859
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: lot from his experience under Ben Johnson last year. But yeah,

860
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: it's it's becoming a trend like Sean Mannion getting this

861
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: job with Philadelphia very young. You mentioned Udinsky like Selhouse

862
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: is now going to be elevated to the.

863
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: Offense about Seuse by the way, yeah please.

864
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: I talked to someone who was in the interviews with

865
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: him and said they were like blown away, m like

866
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,479
Speaker 3: like he was. He said, you can make a case

867
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: of the best the best interview, like the most impressive guy. Literally,

868
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Speaker 3: it was just at the end of the day, just

869
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Speaker 3: doesn't have enough experience. So I think him and I

870
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Speaker 3: haven't seen it if it's been reported yet, but you know,

871
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Speaker 3: if Flour getting the ear his own job, I'm assuming

872
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: he will just kind of slide into the coordinator's role

873
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: with the Rams. But he's this is a one year

874
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: and if you're a Rams fan, you got him for

875
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Speaker 3: one year because what I heard how impressive he was.

876
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Speaker 3: He'll be a head coach next year.

877
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Speaker 1: Wow.

878
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they haven't officially announced that. They did officially announce

879
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: extensions for Sean McVay and less sneed.

880
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 3: Well deserved ten years. I saw that in the little clip.

881
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: It is really crazy to think about the hiring of

882
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: McVeigh and he was the shield house of his era

883
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: where people were like, who.

884
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: Imember the boy band coach? That was the knock on.

885
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: They just hired somebody from a boy band to be

886
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 3: their head coach, and he's too young. This is idiotic,

887
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: and they're just trying to sell La and Hollywood. So

888
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 3: they got this good looking young kid who has no

889
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 3: business being a head coach, and it's like, you pulled

890
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: everybody right now, and he would be number one on

891
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 3: the list of the best head coaches in the NFL.

892
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 2: And less than him have shown. Look, sometimes an arranged

893
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Speaker 2: marriage can absolutely work because Less Sneed was with Jeff

894
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 2: Fisher for a number of year is with the Saint

895
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: Louis Rams and wondering how that combo was was gonna work.

896
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: And here they are in the mix each and every year,

897
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 2: like we're in the mix each and every week. DJ

898
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Speaker 2: we I gotta go to the Super Bowl. I mean, uh,

899
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Speaker 2: you're they probably have you doing studio stuff this week.

900
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: Are you going up there?

901
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 3: No? No, I'm I'm in the cave trying to get

902
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: players watched and just trying to work hard. But you

903
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: enjoy that boondoggle up there. Get yourself a little sour dough,

904
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: a little soup. Super bowl up there, get you go

905
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: off the wharf, get yourself some some clam chowder.

906
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's not a boondoggle.

907
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: We have about twenty guests lined up over three days

908
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: Wednesday to Friday on NFL Daily.

909
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 3: So yes, who's your best one?

910
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: That's I mean justin Jefferson in terms of just who's

911
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: the best player.

912
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: What's pitching.

913
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's pitching something. Jackson Dart is a fun one,

914
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: but there there's a lot of good ones. Might have

915
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: to have Malcolm Butler on for like the fourth time.

916
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: He's Malcolm Butler's is always around.

917
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 3: He's super Bowl Week. He's gonna to pop in there

918
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 3: like Larry b Larry Brown Butler.

919
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: Oh, you know which one. I'm excited.

920
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Speaker 2: Actually, I don't think Matcolm Butler is on the agenda

921
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Speaker 2: this week. It's a little bit of a random one.

922
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Speaker 2: But I'm very excited that Bo Jackson is going to

923
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Speaker 2: be whoa, you.

924
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 3: Guys got the Ohio State running back on there?

925
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: Just the other one, the other the great video game player,

926
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Speaker 2: the great super technical player, Bo Jackson.

927
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Speaker 1: But I believe we're on the docket. You know, we

928
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Speaker 1: don't quit.

929
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Speaker 2: We're going to be back next week, and yes, let's

930
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: break down another free agency position. Let's talk about what's

931
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 2: what's happening in the draft, and uh, we'll talk about

932
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: the Patriots having done it again with a second year

933
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 2: quarterback being super Bowl champions.

934
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Speaker 3: How about that? Maybe looking forward to next week, buddy,

935
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Speaker 3: this is fun really, Yes, I kind of my favorite

936
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Speaker 3: environment here. You know, I just feel like I'm in

937
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Speaker 3: a kid's room talking to someone who looks like a kid,

938
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Speaker 3: and I just I think it all kind of comes together.

939
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Speaker 2: I mean, looking like a kid is the nicest thing

940
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: you said to me all day. All my all my

941
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Speaker 2: kids tell me is how how old I look? I'm

942
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: you know, you look you look man who stole his

943
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Speaker 2: dad's watch.

944
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Speaker 3: That's that's it.

945
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Speaker 1: That's it for forties and free agents this week. We'll

946
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Speaker 1: see you after the super Bowl. Yeah,