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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

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Speaker 2: Everyone. Welcome to Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about the most up to date information

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Speaker 2: we have on the death of Diane Keaton. We have

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Speaker 2: some unusual true crime stories coming out of hospitals, including

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Speaker 2: a man who intentionally sprayed hospital workers with HIV positive

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Speaker 2: blood and a patient who beat to death their roommate.

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Speaker 2: Then we're going to get into an unusual case of

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Speaker 2: a surgeon who gave himself a vasectomy live on Instagram,

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Speaker 2: and students who were drinking water from a tank that

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Speaker 2: had a dead body in it. We'll finish up the

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Speaker 2: episode with some of your emails and questions. All that

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Speaker 2: and more. On today's episode, let's get started with kind

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Speaker 2: of shocking dian Kee and I didn't hear she.

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Speaker 1: Was sick, right, Well, I saw your story first on

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Speaker 1: Instagram that said rip k from the Godfather, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, you know what, you're kind of a boomer.

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Speaker 1: I don't just kidding, no, I just I was like,

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Speaker 1: I've just nobody like Kay.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I.

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Speaker 1: When I think of Diankee and I do not think

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Speaker 1: of the Godfather I think of something's gotta give, But

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Speaker 1: we just had different meetings.

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Speaker 2: She's k in the Godfather, So that's that's my introduction

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Speaker 2: to her.

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Speaker 1: Is that that I didn't trust you, per se. I

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Speaker 1: just needed to look byself because I was just so

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Speaker 1: in disbelief that Diankeeton died. I just I was refusing

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Speaker 1: to accept it. She was only seventy nine years old.

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Speaker 1: We didn't know anything about her being sick. I was

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Speaker 1: just completely shocked.

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Speaker 2: I looked at her as this older person that was

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Speaker 2: pretty healthy. So yeah, I thought that way too by

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Speaker 2: looking at her. But I mean, she was seventy nine,

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Speaker 2: so we're starting to get into you know, the territory

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Speaker 2: where people die, you know, my favorite old age. But no,

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Speaker 2: I mean your body starts breaking down as you get old,

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Speaker 2: so the likelihood of things going wrong are just increased

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Speaker 2: at that age. And we don't know anything now, so

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Speaker 2: obviously we'll have an update if we ever hear what

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Speaker 2: actually happened to her. But apparently some of her friends

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Speaker 2: hung out with her recently and were surprised with how

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Speaker 2: extremely thin. She was. Now we know that she battled

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Speaker 2: bulimia at parts of her life, so I think it's

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Speaker 2: probably less likely that that was happening, but people have

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Speaker 2: seen her throughout her life fluctuating and wait. And also

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Speaker 2: she has a history of skin cancer, so she had

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Speaker 2: basal cell cancer, it's highly doubtful that that had anything

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Speaker 2: Both of these are just from increased sun exposure, possibly

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Speaker 2: some genetic component as well with skin cancers. But if

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Speaker 2: she had melanoma, I'd say there's a chance that this

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Speaker 2: had spread. Squamous oul gets spread too, but it seems

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Speaker 2: like she got it treated less likely, so we have

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Speaker 2: no idea. There's like no speculation. We'd have no idea,

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Speaker 2: so we'll get back to you guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would say, I don't know if maybe

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Speaker 1: she found out earlier this year she was dealing with

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Speaker 1: for sale in March of this year, which really shocked everybody.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if that was just her trying

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Speaker 1: it's really unfortunate, a huge loss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, she was cool and all the other

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Speaker 2: obviously like Woody Allen movies and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: She was super cool, So I saw he was paying

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Speaker 1: a lot of tributes to him, Like nobody wants to

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Speaker 2: God, he's he's like Michael Jackson with me. It's just

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Speaker 2: like I loved Woody Allen so much, and just I

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Speaker 2: same with Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Well, after we watched that one with Dylan, I was like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I know, I know. That one's just so disturbing.

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Speaker 1: It is very hard to separate the art from the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really, all right, this one is so scary for

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Speaker 1: Really. So back in March, this guy was at the

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Speaker 2: And he did this on purpose.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what it's seeming like, and he's just getting

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Speaker 1: arrested now six months later. Well, I guess he got

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Speaker 1: why would he just be arrested now? The police are

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, there is a possibility, I guess, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know the details, that the guy was just

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Speaker 2: And if he just pulled it out because of that

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Speaker 2: But they seem to think that this was an intentional act,

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Speaker 2: obviously because they're arresting him now. So the good news

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Speaker 2: like zero point zero three percent chance. So it's happened,

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Speaker 2: That's why there is a chance, but it rarely, rarely

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Speaker 2: ever happens, So that's good news for them, but it's

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Speaker 2: still scary because there is this small possibility of that happening.

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Speaker 2: And to hear that, I guess. It was considered a

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Speaker 2: that is a lifelong thing, and I feel like putting

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Speaker 2: that didn't get it, that's not really a lot of

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Speaker 2: jail time in my opinion, right, It's it's almost the

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Speaker 2: same as giving them, you know, going up to someone

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who classifies what's horrible? What's not to deal with?

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Speaker 1: Because if these people did end up contracting it, it's

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Speaker 1: something that's the rest of the life, right, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: So I know that the treatment, the treatment could be

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Speaker 2: And I'm not sure that the laws have changed from

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Speaker 2: when HIV was not considered to be even treatable, let

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Speaker 2: I just there's still you still don't want it. You

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Speaker 2: don't want it, like that's the bottom line. And if

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Speaker 2: against your will, then they should get in trouble for it. Period.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was gonna say. And then the

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Speaker 1: New York Post was saying it's unclear if the HIV

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Speaker 1: positive blood belonged to him, Well, hwhere else would it

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a nurse or just

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Speaker 1: at healthcare workers. It was sprayed in their eyes. But

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Speaker 1: in that one article that we read, it did not

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Speaker 2: I don't know where you got. I didn't see that

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Speaker 1: Reporting that he was getting treatment for diabetes and that's

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Speaker 1: when he ripped out his IV.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't I don't know, and I

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Speaker 2: don't know if I've never even I mean obviously, Like

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Speaker 2: I've never given a person an IV before, so I

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Speaker 2: don't know how they react. But if you just pull

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Speaker 2: it out like that, I know it bleeds, but can

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Speaker 2: you squirt it? I don't see how you could squirt

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Speaker 2: it if it's not in an artery. Well, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: just like it maybe it's sprays. I don't. I just

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Speaker 2: don't know. Like, if any of you guys are listening,

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Speaker 2: what would happen if you just ripped it out, if

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Speaker 1: Well that's what I was wondering too. If maybe the

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Speaker 1: got the blood from somewhere else. Yeah, that's not the

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Speaker 1: way I read it. But I also am in the

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Speaker 2: No, it can't. I just don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't see that.

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Speaker 2: It's you think, like, Okay, if you cut someone an

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Speaker 2: out like that, right, But that's that's not what's happening

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Speaker 1: So but then where is he getting the other blood from?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you don't ever want to get blood into

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Speaker 2: like I said, there are documented cases, but it's just

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Speaker 2: it's just rare because there's so many more documented cases

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Speaker 2: getting HIV like that, And obviously there's more cases probably

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Speaker 2: of people getting semen in their eye, but the tree

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Speaker 1: Well, what's your protocol if you guys accidentally are exposed

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Speaker 1: to it in this case, where like when you're doing

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Speaker 1: if you accidentally cut yourself with some somebody, that's in

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Speaker 2: Go to employee health if it's not that bad. And

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Speaker 2: I mean so I've had to go to the emergency

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Speaker 2: needed a couple sutures. But it's all documented in case

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Speaker 2: But it's all documented. So for example, when I cut myself,

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Speaker 2: All right, this is another crazy viral video that happened

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Speaker 1: that's going to try to do it. But yeah, the

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Speaker 1: Department of Health reviewed it. They determined that no laws

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Speaker 1: were broken. I think it was also just in those

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Speaker 1: really weird legal gray areas. I guess we'll just see

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Speaker 1: you're gonna.

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Speaker 2: I'll post this in the grosser room too, because I

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Speaker 2: think it will be of interest to people.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Students at a medical college in India were

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Speaker 1: horrified to learn that the water they had been drinking

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Speaker 1: was contaminated with a decomposing body for at least ten days.

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Speaker 2: I just can't I can't wrap my brain around this.

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Speaker 2: Oddly enough, this is not the first time that this

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Speaker 2: has happened, Because do you remember the Eliza Lamb story,

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Speaker 2: which is also in the gross room. We did a

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Speaker 2: high profile death dis section on this years ago. Remember

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Speaker 2: that Cecil Hotel documentary. Yes, so a similar kind of

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Speaker 2: thing happened. That she was found dead in this water

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Speaker 2: tank and people in the hotel were complaining that the

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Speaker 2: water was a funny color and it smelled funny, like

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Speaker 2: That's what happened in this case too. In a medical school,

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Speaker 2: they were saying that the water had a foul smell,

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Speaker 2: and they found a body that was so decomposed in

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Speaker 2: the water that it was not They weren't able to

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Speaker 2: identify how who it was, which means that they were

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Speaker 2: really decomposed and just juicy decomp juice in the water.

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Speaker 1: And right now we don't really know how it got there.

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Speaker 1: So they were saying that the tank was supposed to

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Speaker 1: be sealed off, and it was, And of course, so

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Speaker 1: is this the person that went in there and got stuck?

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Speaker 1: Was it a homicide? What exactly happened? But to think,

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Speaker 1: you know, you might see your water and it's a

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Speaker 1: little off and you maybe don't think anything of it,

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Speaker 1: and then it starts smelling over days and then it

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Speaker 1: turns out you've been showering and drinking water from a

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Speaker 1: dead body water tank is probably the most disgusting thing

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Speaker 1: that could ever happen.

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Speaker 2: There's no amount of I mean, the only thing that

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Speaker 2: really could help it would be to drink bleach, and

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Speaker 2: that would be that would kill you. So like, I

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Speaker 2: just don't know, Like, what could you really use as

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Speaker 2: an antiseptic mouthwash? I would seriously be mouthwashing every day

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Speaker 2: for like and doing a cleanse I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: It's just for you see for you you.

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Speaker 2: Think it's gross and you don't you've never seen or

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Speaker 2: smelled the decomposing body. No, so just and like salt,

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Speaker 2: the juice that the black and the green juice that

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Speaker 2: comes out, and the smell of it, and just thinking

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Speaker 2: about that. I just don't know how you really ever

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Speaker 2: get that out of your head, although it might be

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Speaker 2: really good if you're trying to lose weight, because I

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Speaker 2: can't imagine, and knowing what it was, you know, just

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Speaker 2: drinking it in general would smell, but knowing it was

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Speaker 2: from a dead person, like if it was from a

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Speaker 2: dead rat, it would gross.

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Speaker 1: Shown animals get in water tanks all the time. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to know about that, because I've talked about

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Speaker 1: this on previous episodes. But to think of a whole decomposing.

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Speaker 2: Huge like a human is yeah, it's just another level

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Speaker 2: of nasty.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's move on to Questions of the day. Every

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Speaker 1: Friday at that Mother Knows Death Instagram account and on

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Speaker 1: our YouTube, you guys could ask whatever you want. Also,

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Speaker 1: I guess new segment additional alert. I don't know the

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Speaker 1: proper way to phrase it, you guys, are always emailing

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Speaker 1: us and messaging messaging us your comments on stories from

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Speaker 1: your professional perspective, your personal stories, So we're gonna start

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Speaker 1: reading those now on the show.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna helt you guys.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna help you guys. If you want to remain anonymous,

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Speaker 1: please say that you want to remain anonymous. Otherwise we're

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Speaker 1: going to say your first name only. But if you

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Speaker 1: don't want your name out there, or you think it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a problem and somebody's gonna trace it

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Speaker 1: back to you, we will gladly keep it anonymous. And

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Speaker 1: if you could be helpful, if you're going to tell

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Speaker 1: detail story, please don't give specific names of the place

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Speaker 1: you work at or names of your coworkers or something.

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Speaker 1: But you guys are always sending in good stuff, so

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Speaker 1: if we want everybody else to hear it too, all right,

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Speaker 1: I guess let's start off with the first question. So

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Speaker 1: what's the ETA on the new book.

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Speaker 2: Two thousand and twenty seven. We're trying to all right,

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Speaker 2: fall yes, we're trying well, yeah, early like late, I'm

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Speaker 2: our early fault. We're trying to release it before crime

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Speaker 2: con of twenty twenty seven. So that's the goal right now,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be so good. It is really going

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Speaker 2: to be so good. You just sent a sample in

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Speaker 2: and it looks amazing already.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna not say this person's name yet because they

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Speaker 1: wrote it in and I didn't have a chance to

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Speaker 1: ask them or not, so I don't want to piss

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Speaker 1: them off. But they said, Hey, Nicole and Maria, I

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Speaker 1: think this is the wrong email to be sending this to,

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Speaker 1: but wanted to respond to your question on the show

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Speaker 1: from October fourth about the portable X ray machine. I've

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Speaker 1: been working in radiology for twenty years, and for many

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Speaker 1: years i've worked the grave shift emergency trauma. These days,

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Speaker 1: I only do see T scans, so the scatter radiation

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Speaker 1: from a portable X ray machine only goes about five

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Speaker 1: or six feet from the source. However, if someone is

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Speaker 1: in the next bay in the emergency room, which I

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Speaker 1: assume is where you were sitting, the tech is supposed

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Speaker 1: to tell them that they're taking an X ray and

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Speaker 1: back up, especially if they are women of child bearing age.

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Speaker 1: Hope this is helpful. Love your show. Okay, guys, So.

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Speaker 2: Maria was in the next bay, but I was sitting

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Speaker 2: in a chair across from her bed, and I was

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Speaker 2: about I would say I was not even two feet

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Speaker 2: away from the X ray machine that they were using.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they just looked at me and said, she's definitely

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Speaker 2: not a child bearing age.

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Speaker 1: You were like, little, do you know that my blood tests.

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Speaker 1: I could still very well have a baby. Yes, exactly,

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Speaker 1: but I have a little bit of child bearing age.

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Speaker 1: And I also was certainly not five to six feet

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Speaker 1: from the moss.

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Speaker 2: You weren't, and we that curtain was not doing anything.

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Speaker 1: On top of being ugly, it certainly wasn't providing protection.

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Speaker 1: But if you guys had listened to that episode, you

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Speaker 1: remember we talked about how I was in the er.

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Speaker 1: We thought it was weird. They just came right up

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Speaker 1: to the person in the next little area, just took

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Speaker 1: it x ray and didn't say anything to us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so thank you for ready to thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and this is thanks for making it worse.

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Speaker 1: I know. Thanks all right, this is from Chrissy found

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Speaker 1: out how first cousins could get married in Illinois. For you, No,

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Speaker 1: you generally cannot marry your first cousin in Illinois. The

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Speaker 1: law only permits such a marriage if both parties are

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Speaker 1: fifty or older, or if one party is permanently sterile

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Speaker 1: as certified by a physician. Marriages between first cousins that

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Speaker 1: do not meet these conditions are considered void under Illinois law.

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Speaker 2: So all right, So that's what I was going to say,

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Speaker 2: because my whole thing with that is like, how do

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Speaker 2: they know that your cousins just don't tell them and

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Speaker 2: avoid all this. But I guess they're saying if they

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Speaker 2: find out your marriage is Nolan.

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Speaker 1: Void doesn't count. I think how they start to find out.

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Speaker 2: Like the whole thing is like they put these laws

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Speaker 2: in place and they're not going to do anything.

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Speaker 1: I think the fifty and over and this sterile is

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Speaker 1: really interesting, Like so you're allowed to do it if

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Speaker 1: you can't make children, then we don't care.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that the only reason they care is because of

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Speaker 2: the children's situation.

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Speaker 1: It's just such an interesting concept.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's interesting because I'm like, who

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Speaker 2: do you tell? Okay, Like I found out that my

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Speaker 2: next door neighbor is married to their first cousin, Like

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Speaker 2: do I call my local police department and.

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Speaker 1: Say, like who do you call?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: The whole thing is such bullshit.

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Speaker 2: The laws are just like they're just because it's frowned upon,

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Speaker 2: but nobody actually does anything about it, and nobody would

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Speaker 2: ever know.

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Speaker 1: That's my interesting Well, thank you to Christy and the

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Speaker 1: other listener for writing in. If you guys want us

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Speaker 1: to read your comments, please email them to us. Don't

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Speaker 1: submit them on YouTube or Instagram because it's still a

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Speaker 1: little too hard to monitor to us or for us.

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Speaker 2: But we don't get half of them, especially on Instagram either.

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Speaker 1: So no, definitely, but you could submit those along with

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Speaker 1: any you know, questions, comments turns anything to stories at

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Speaker 2: Say you guys, thank you for listening to Mother nos Death.

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Speaker 2: As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist's assistant.

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Speaker 2: I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy

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Speaker 2: and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I

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Speaker 2: have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without

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Speaker 2: the assistance of a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website,

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Speaker 2: Always remember that science is changing every day and the

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Speaker 2: of those subjects at the time of publication. If you

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