WEBVTT - Bowl Chat - The Trolley Test 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.400 Hello, Hello, My goodness, that is loud in my headphone? 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:05.440 Not for me? Is it louder? Now? 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:06.840 It's good? Yeah, it's nice. Now good. 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:07.160 Hi. 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:08.119 Welcome to bull Chat. 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:12.399 Yeah, welcome. Thank you for coming to another episode of 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:15.319 bull Chat. It's so exciting. We're so happy to have 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:18.560 you here. It's so cool to spend time with my 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:21.479 really good friend. Today must be a Wednesday, Yeah, which 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:25.439 means that it's bo bull chats, the cold chat chat chat, 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:28.479 boat chat, the boat to chat chat chat, oh, boat chat, 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.720 bowl to chat, to chat, everything together in one bit. Bull. 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:34.640 I love that that's not bad. Also, I love that 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:36.680 you went when I played it, we need a new 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:39.159 one though. It wasn't that bad. But meanwhile, the mind 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:41.080 I played it. 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:44.000 It's Wednesday, July twentieth. Welcome to boll Chat, the sister 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:48.040 podcast to Serial Killers. That's the podcast where we eat cereal. 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:51.519 And this is not but you probably already knew that. 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:53.120 It's the same thing. It's on the same thing. 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:55.920 You probably already knew that, fellow listeners, So we thank 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:57.640 you for being here. If you came here for cereal, 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.680 come back Monday, Okay, and again I'm sure listeners know that. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:03.760 Thank you guys, there might be a new one or two, 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.399 don't you think? Do you think that every week we 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:08.560 have new listeners? I was going to be at least one, right, 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:11.560 I would hope, I think. But again, it's clearly marked 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:15.200 on the page that it's bull chat. So what all right? 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:16.560 I'm not going to get into it because I love 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:17.440 you and I'm not going to argue with it. 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:19.640 Every time you brought this up to someone, they always 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:20.520 say that you're wrong. 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:25.759 Tot's cool, Andy, That's right. I just said it. It's fine. 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.080 What Tot's cool? Why would you say that? Totally cool? 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:30.119 It's fine? 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:31.440 Cool? 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.880 Right? Can I have a straw, a paper straw? Yeah? 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.960 Sure, it's gonna upset by that. Yeah, it's going to 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:40.200 disintegrate momentarily, you know. Okay, So I just went to 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:41.960 pick up these ice teas for us because I had 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:43.920 to feed the meter sixty seven dollars later. 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:46.000 No, it wasn't the sixty seven dollars. It was just 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.320 I walked in, I said two iced teas please, and 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.880 the girl like she almost snorted at me, as if 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:52.880 I don't even know what she would say, but she 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.640 I walked up and her face was like, was. 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:57.840 It the girl with glasses. Yeah, kind of tall. Yes, 0:01:57.920 --> 0:01:58.440 she's new. 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:00.680 Oh, she didn't care that I ordered anything. 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.840 She is so only because I go there every day. 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:07.280 The really nice shorter woman who has a kiky delivery. 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.960 You don't know it, but it's an animate Kikys delivery. Okay, okay, 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.440 I love it. We've bonded over it before with right, 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:17.919 But she was training her and she was like, all right, 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:19.640 so it's time for one of you to go on break, Like, 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:21.640 are one of you ready to go on break? And 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:25.200 the girl's like, I guess I'll go. And it's like 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:27.120 you're in for all these people and you're gonna sound 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:28.600 like that that's the thing. 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.480 And of course after I ordered n page, she flipped 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.040 the screen over and it said tip, and. 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:35.600 I'm like, you know what, flip the screen you haven't 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:36.000 in front. 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.400 Of that's right, Okay. So I tapped the screen and 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.799 it said tip, and I was like, really, normally i'd 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:43.720 give a dollar or two or whatever, and I did. 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:45.960 I gave a dollar just because it was there. And 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.359 I feel like hitting no tip sets off an alarm 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:50.160 in the back and the pee and your stuff, So 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:53.960 I don't I always give something? Okay, you know, but 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:56.120 I felt like I didn't. I didn't want to. But 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.239 then again, I was giving it to the shorter girl. 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:02.000 It's so hot in here, it's actually okay, So I 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:03.120 was giving it to the girl in the back. I 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.400 hope they don't split their tips, because it wasn't for her, 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.000 it was for her. Yeah. That whole staff is really nice, 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:09.400 except that new one. She's not very nice. 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:10.720 Yeah, she needs to be trained better. 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.120 Yeah. So, but it must be hard to work in 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.680 customer service like that these days. I feel like, especially now, 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:19.880 it's hard. Oh of course, and it's hard to get people, 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.520 so they'll take whatever they can. Yeah, miserable or not. Oh, 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:26.400 so many people yelling at you? Who has intolerances? Who's 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.360 coming up to you being like I asked for oat 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.760 milk and this is amand which would be bad if 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:34.000 you're alder nuts, But you get the point. Yeah. 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:35.560 And then as I walked back into the building, there 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:39.160 was a sign that said all actions on elevator and 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:42.200 in lobby are captured on closed circuit TV. 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.600 Let me tell you something, but that's old. Yeah. 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.920 Closed circuit TV is like what banks had in the 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:52.080 seventies with that giant box camera that would rotate back 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.600 and forth. They called that closed circuit television. Now it's 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.920 just you're monitored by video surveillance. That's really all it is. 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.280 The last time I heard the term closed circuit television 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.080 is during WrestleMania, the very first one, when you couldn't 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.200 watch it on TV and it was only available on 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.480 closed circuit television. And I don't even know what that was. 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:10.640 You had to go to like arenas or something and 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.040 watch it on a closed circuit wasn't a pay per view. 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:14.480 That was pre pay per view? 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:16.400 Oh wow, it was a year before pay per view, 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:18.000 because I think the next year was on pay per view. 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:22.320 But yeah, closed circuit TV. Interesting, damn. I mean, it's 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:23.240 not an open circuit. 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:27.000 He's closed for only people that are you know whatever, 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.000 shocked exactly, Color me shocked. Let me tell you someth 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.599 empt in the p dance in that elevator many a time. 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.159 Why we only go up three floors? 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:38.440 No? Well, sometimes if I go, well, if I go 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.480 up to four. Sometimes if I'm. 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:43.080 Like, and do you think they're actually watching? 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:43.440 Now? 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:45.080 There are times where I'll be picking my nose and 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.680 I'll be like, oh, and I'll see the camera right. 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:49.400 There and you'll make sure to look at it. 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:51.880 But do you think that they only look at it 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:53.640 if something goes wrong and they go back and look 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:54.840 at footage, or do you think the guy at the 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:56.480 front desk is like, yeah, I'm gonna watch him in 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:56.960 the elevator. 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.080 I mean, I'm sure he probably has his favorites. If 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.000 I worked at a desk and I knew that, like, 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.960 oh man, this one, this one doesn't know I'm watching, 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.719 but he like, I don't start dancing in the elevator 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:07.479 or something like that. 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.320 I think there are very few people that actually realize 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.480 that they're being watched constantly, Like like when you get 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.279 into an elevator, you don't think that there's a camera on. 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.279 So that's where you do your private stuff. Yeah, I 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.360 don't mean like that stuff. I mean like picking nose 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.880 and picking your ear, Yeah, stuff like that. And you 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.559 know you're out in the street walking around there's cameras everywhere. Yeah, 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:26.760 and you don't know, yeah, until you do something wrong. 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:28.919 Do you ever think about, like, that's the last time 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.720 someone would have seen you on video and then I died, 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:35.039 Like if it was a frontline or dateline, yeah, dateline 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.840 special and they found the where walking into the T 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:39.480 mobile store. 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.000 And that's the last time I was seen walking. 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.680 Do you see that girl? Well, it's not funny and 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.240 I'm not laughing either. Byes had to preface it. The 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.800 girl who walked out of her house with the ring camera. No, yeah, 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:53.640 but you do a fall. It was a mom and 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:55.800 she just like left her. The last thing they have 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.240 on her is leaving the house on the ring camera, 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.000 and they have no idea where she went. She left 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.400 without her phone because she said she was in a rush. 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:05.080 That to me, I know this is not a true 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.840 crime podcast, but I'm finding it a little suspicious, is 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:08.599 all I'm gonna say. 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.200 That's a forty eight hours mystery it is I've ever 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:11.640 heard one. 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.000 Because she just left and she's vanished and nobody knows 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:14.719 where she is now. 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:17.120 I think it's very rare that people go anywhere without 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.000 their phone. And she lost her Apple watch. She didn't 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:20.840 bring her Apple watch because she was she was late 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:22.960 to work. Well, she probably didn't want to be tracked. 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:24.320 That's why she left everything behind. 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.680 This is what I said. Huh, we could be detectives. Yeah, 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:29.359 I don't know if i'd be good at that. No, 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.200 my super sleuth thing might be a little poor. 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.640 I could see you like sitting in an old Dodge 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.360 diplomat with a with a big hat and sunglasses and 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.400 a big long cigarette and cups of coffee and newspapers 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:46.839 on the dashboard. You're you're in the big long camera lens. 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:48.599 What are you doing? 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:54.720 Oh? Perfect, you're a private dick. You'll have to watch 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:56.680 the YouTube to see Andy in disguise. 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.000 Yep. But yeah, every once in a while you have 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.719 to peak over your glasses every once in a while. 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:04.040 M hm, with the binoculars. 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:04.920 Yep. 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:10.040 Anyway, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:11.680 Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.480 That one. That one freaks me out a little bit, 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.680 that they went missing. There's so much stuff like that 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:19.920 that happens that you don't hear about. And I always 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.200 watched them before I go to bed, and that's not good. 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.280 No, don't do that. Just watch the news, because it's 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.840 always good. It's great to fall asleep to the news. 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.720 I guess you're right. Shark bites and murders and all 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.080 coming up at eleven. What your kids don't know is 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:36.040 in their school meet. 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.840 That's too late for me. I watched the nine o'clock. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.679 There are very few markets that have nine o'clock news, true, 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.320 and we do. It's on kind of a local issue 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:49.720 station that most people can't get even though it's CBS affiliate. 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:52.480 It's not the CBS affiliate, but they still do the 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:56.119 CBS local news at nine o'clock and then they rerun 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:57.880 it at nine thirty, which is kind of weird. Yeah, 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:00.440 but I like that because I fall asleep to the 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:02.160 nine o'clock. Ten o'clock is just too late. I can't 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.360 stay up till ten. It's too much. At eleven forget 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:08.560 about it, you know, unless it's a Friday night. Maybe yeah, maybe, 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:09.920 Well I work Saturday mornings. 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:12.080 Yeah, that's true. But sometimes I stay up late on 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:13.760 a Friday because I can wake up an extra hour 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.240 later on Saturday because I work from home on Saturday. 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.440 Don't tell anyone. I don't know if I'm supposed to 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:18.640 be doing. 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:24.160 He just exposed it whatever. Yeah, I don't. I will say, 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.960 are you more of a morning person or a night person? Well, 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:28.840 I mean I get up at three fifty whatever in 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:30.720 the morning, so I guess you're more of a morning 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:31.360 I don't know. 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.840 If I'll ever actually be a morning person, you know. 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.520 I mean, yeah, I get up, and yeah, I don't like. 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:41.200 I never I've never hit my snooze ever my alarm 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:42.719 goes off or I get up before it. I get 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.440 up and I get ready and I leave. Yeah, so 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.000 I'm not like a just five more minutes. I've never 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:48.839 been like that, So I just get up. So I 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:51.160 guess I'm a morning person. Yeah, and I like to like. 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:53.520 I think I'm more of a morning person. I mean, 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.200 I'm here at I wake up at four fifty. That's 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.240 my first alarm. You got an hour on me, I said, 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.520 a second alarm for five. It's going to be four 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.960 thirty when we move. I am not. 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:05.840 It's further for everybody. It sucks. 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.080 Do you want to play this crazy game? No, it's 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:11.079 called absurd trolley problems, I ask you, and it tells 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:15.120 you things I don't understand. Oh hey, Nate, Oh hi, Nate. 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.720 You know that's not a hallway. You know, I know, 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:25.760 have a great day in eleven, bye bye, take care. Okay, 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:27.960 this says that dorney's oil. I know, we get some 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:29.760 WD forty in this bitch. I wish. 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.480 Oh no, a trolley's heading towards five people. You can 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:34.240 pull a lever to divert it to the other track, 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:35.880 killing one person, and said, what would you do? 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:37.280 Depends on who the five people are. 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.319 You have to pick one, pull a lever or do nothing. 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:42.600 Is it going to kill the one person or kill 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.640 five people? I'll pull the lever, of course, who are 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:46.280 the five people? 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:46.520 Though? 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:48.600 Seventy eight percent of people agree with you. 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.280 Well, I mean that's the nice thing to do, isn't it. 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.240 Oh, it's pulling towards five people. The other track has 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.240 four people. Do you pull the lever and make it 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:57.880 kill four? Or kill five? Still? 0:09:57.920 --> 0:09:59.839 Four kill always less? 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.040 And if you're seven percent of people agree with you. 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.120 But if you pull the lever, there's a chance if 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.079 you pull the lever really quick while the train's moving, 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.120 there's a chance that'll go off the tracks and won't 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:12.160 kill anybody. Is gonna will what? Oh? No, a trolley's 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.120 heading towards five people. You can pull the lever to 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:15.760 divert it to the other track. But then your life 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.839 savings are destroyed. Well, I don't have any of those, 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.120 so I'll pull the lever all right. Your life savings 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:21.600 are destroyed. 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:22.000 That's fine. 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.680 Only seventy percent of people agree with you. Okay, ooh, 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:28.680 you're a real asshole if you would kill five people 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.280 just to for your life saving and keep your money? Yeah, like, 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:32.280 how much could you really have? 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:34.679 It depends on how old you are and what your 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:36.839 job is true and what your expensive is. 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:39.760 Elon Musk would definitely pull the if not pull the lever, 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.719 might not. A trolley's heading towards five people. You could 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:44.720 pull it to divert it to the other track, sacrificing 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:49.760 yourself instead. Ooh, that's a tough one. It is a 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:51.600 tough thing. That is a tough one, very tough one. 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.320 I would not pull the lever, do nothing. I would 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.559 so you kill them. Sixty percent of people agree with you. 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:01.200 Wait did they have kids? 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.120 No? Oh, this one's easy. You pull it to divert 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:05.960 to the other track. But then the original copy of 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.000 the Mona Lisa is destroyed, So five people die or 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:09.439 the Mona Lisa screw. 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:09.720 The Mona Lisa. 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.520 Yeah, Steve is say, ooh, I pressed do nothing by accident. 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:14.640 Oh come on, well, it doesn't really affect anything. It's 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.120 just games. Oh no, a trolley's heading towards a rich man. 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.120 The rich man offers you five hundred thousand to pull 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.640 the lever, which would divert the trolley and kill someone else. 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:26.040 Okay, I'll do that, you would. It's one person either way, 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:29.160 so what's the difference. That's that is good thinking, right, 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.199 and now I got money. Thirty eight percent of people 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.320 agree with you. Yeah, wow, I would expect more. But yeah, 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:37.040 well think hard about that. You're gonna kill one person 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.160 no matter what. Yeah so, but but maybe the other 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:41.000 person's not a jerk. 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:42.280 Yeah, I don't. 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:43.200 You never know. 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:46.800 A trolley's heading towards five lobsters. You could pull it 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.640 or runs over a cat instead, say the lobsters or 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:50.280 kill the cat. 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.720 Well, someone's going to eat the lobsters anyway, so screw 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:55.720 the lobsters. The cat has many many. Oh but then again, 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:59.280 the cat has like eight more lives. That's not real. Oh, 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:00.400 it's just a food. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:00.640 Yeah. 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.160 If a cat gets run over by a trolley, the 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.040 cat's dead. I kill the lobsters and then we could 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.160 eat them anyway, and they'll be cooked already, So good. 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:13.000 Perfect trolley lobsters. Ooh, this one's really hard. 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.840 Okay, it's heading towards five people who are sleeping and 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.240 won't feel pain. You can pull it to divert it 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.480 to the other track, running over someone who's wide awake. 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:26.040 Instead, still have to divert it kill the one person. 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.160 There's still five lives. 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:31.360 But they are sleeping and they won't feel pain versus 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.360 the one person who's gonna be screaming. The whole matter, 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.320 it's still five families that are gonna be missing. They're 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:36.600 so you're pulling it? 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:37.160 Pulling it? 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.640 Ah? Sixty six percent of people agree, Well, you have 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:48.640 to think is logical? Oh oh, this one's hard. It's 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.400 heading towards five people who tied themselves to the track. 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:53.800 You can pull it to divert it to the other track, 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.160 getting rid of one person who accidentally tripped. 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:01.880 I that's difficut. But you know what, they tied themselves there, 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:04.920 so they're looking for the trolley to come. So I 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:05.920 just let it go. 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:10.160 Do nothing? Okay? How many percent eighty eight percent of people? Okay, 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:13.640 Because you have to think. These are thinking questions, Oh no, 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:16.560 what this one? A trolley's heading towards five people. The 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.080 lever just speeds up the trolley, which might make it 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:23.000 less painful. Do you do five or one? One? What 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:25.120 it goes faster. 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.800 Faster to kill the five or regular speed to kill 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:29.920 the one? Is it less painful or no? 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:30.640 Still one? 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:32.480 I'm still gonna kill the one, right, Yeah, it doesn't 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:33.319 matter how fast it's going. 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:36.760 I hurt? Would you do I press the wrong one? Oh? 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:40.360 Come on, Andy, but it doesn't matter it might Wait 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.000 are we going to do this the whole show? Now? 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.360 Can we stop? Now? One? I'm trying to see if 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:45.160 there's a funnier one. 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.200 None of these are funny. You're killing people. 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:50.080 Trolley's heading towards your best friend. You can it's me, 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:52.040 I'm on the track. Okay, you can pull the lever 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.880 to divert it to the other track, killing five strangers instead? 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:56.880 Wow? 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.319 So who what are you gonna do? Scott? I'm loyal 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.840 to you, so I would I guess i'd kill the 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:06.360 five people you're pulling the lever? 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:08.320 Yeah? Could I have another friend in that group? 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:13.439 Though? No? Are you strangers? Strangers? Sixty two percent of 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:14.200 people agreed with you. 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.520 Will I never know who they are or who their 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.200 families are. Yeah, they're not going to come to you 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:18.480 and be. 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.600 Like, that's the lever trolley guy. What he did. 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:24.360 I'll keep you and let them go. Love you, Andy, 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:25.960 Thank you all right, Are we done? 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:29.280 Yeah? Oh, this person forgot their glasses. 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:30.600 Can I ask you a question? 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:31.239 Yeah? 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:35.520 When's the last time that your parents asked you to 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:40.320 do something technological that is so simple to you that 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:41.960 you were like, are you kidding me? 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:43.800 Yeah? I can tell you that really easy. 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:45.320 It happens frequently, doesn't. 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:49.040 It very frequently. It's always funny when my mom asks 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:54.760 to she wanted what was it? What was it? She 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:58.080 doesn't like the new Firefox window. Okay, she doesn't realize 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.640 that the browser updated. Okay, she's con vinced it looked 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.760 another way, which she's correct, But you cannot go back 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.200 to get it to be that way. So I'm trying 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.440 to teach her this is the new way the window works. 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:09.560 Got it? 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:10.200 So? 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.760 Yeah, I mean I can understand how somebody you know 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:14.400 what it must get? 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:16.160 It does go in a USB flash drive. That was 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:16.600 the other one. 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:18.000 Well, my dad asked me for one of those yesterday. 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:19.680 I have to go pick him up one. He's like, wait, 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.160 you can delete things that are on it? Like yes, 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.720 And then he was on his desktop on his PC 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.720 and he said, I have all these things on my desktop. 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.440 Can I put them in a folder? Somehow? How do 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.280 I make. I said, I can make you a folder. 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:36.200 You can make a folder and a new folder. Yes, 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:38.520 So I just new folder real quick, titled it and 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.400 just dragged them all and he's liked, wait, whoa. But 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.760 see that's the thing, and that's why, you know, children 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.240 get frustrated with their parents and they just do it. 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.200 They don't show them how to do it. And that's 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.280 a problem because then they're going to continuously have to 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:52.720 ask you for stuff if you don't show them how 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:55.720 to do things. So I said, okay, right click, drag 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:57.880 and drop, yeah, or was it left click? I forget 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.080 if it's right click, whatever the hell it was. And 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:01.960 so I showed him and then I went in the pool, 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.520 and thirty seconds later he came out, Wait a minute, 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:07.160 can you show me that again. I deleted something by mistake, 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:08.720 and I don't know where I put it. So I 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:10.480 had to go back in and show him again. And 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.880 then my mom the little the phone on the iPhone, 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.800 the icon to make phone calls, yeah, disappeared, so she's like, 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:16.480 I can't make. 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:17.960 Phones place by accident. 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:19.760 Yeah, So I had to go back there and put that. 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:21.960 It's I mean, it's things that are really simple to 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:25.800