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Speaker 1: being with us here at Foxnation. In series see eleven,

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Speaker 1: take a listen to this. Moments after opening the door,

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Speaker 1: star panel. You were just hearing Sydney Snow at WWLP

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Speaker 1: Doctor Kendall Crowns, the chief medical Examiner in Tarrant County.

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Speaker 1: Recorder newspaper. What a case. This beautiful professor brutally attacked dominic. First,

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Speaker 1: author of Red Flags on Amazon. Wendy Typically we see

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Speaker 1: Dominic Polly. This is not about you. This is statistically

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Speaker 1: Amy Bishop? Is that name? Ringing a bell? A university

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Speaker 1: To doctor Bethany Marshall, have you ever encountered a crime

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Speaker 1: therefore I have to kill you doesn't doesn't make sense,

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Speaker 1: and it continues to not make sense. That was the

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Speaker 1: first question. When the defendant was attacking the victim and

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Speaker 1: looked at the defendant and said, why the allegation is

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Speaker 1: that is that the defendant did this. There's no doubt

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Speaker 1: that the victim's orbital bones were broken. There's no doubt

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Speaker 1: that the victim received multiple stitches to try and and

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Speaker 1: another allegation. A few years, crun of a former colleague

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Speaker 1: harassment on the part of the defendant, and speaking with

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Speaker 1: counsel for the college, the council affirmed that this kind

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Speaker 1: of antagonism was present, but wasn't really able to go

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Speaker 1: into detail and wasn't able to turn over the records

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Speaker 1: of documenting that without without a subpoena. The victim told

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Speaker 1: police that during the attack, she thought she was going

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Speaker 1: to die, and she says she survived by playing along

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Speaker 1: with miss Hodgianaki and convincing her to call nine one

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Speaker 1: one for help. Professor Hodgianaki has pled not guilty to

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Speaker 1: the attack. So where does the case stand now? Dominic Polly?

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Speaker 1: The Professor Urihachi Nai has been sent to ten to

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Speaker 1: twelve years in Franklin County House of Correction. Take a

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Speaker 1: listen to our cut seventeen from Crime Online. Laurence Savoy

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Speaker 1: tells a court that after her attack, which she calls torture,

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Speaker 1: she still has not healed and probably never will. Savoy

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Speaker 1: says she suffered nerve damage to her face, two of

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Speaker 1: her fingers no longer work. She also has trouble sleeping,

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Speaker 1: suffering nightmares and headaches daily. Savoy also says she has

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Speaker 1: suffered financially. Insurance has not covered all her medical bills

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Speaker 1: and post traumatic stress disorder therapy. Security in her home

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Speaker 1: has had to be upgraded for her to feel safe.

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Speaker 1: Savoy says she has also lost significant income since she

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Speaker 1: has not been able to return to teaching and has

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Speaker 1: had to turn down at least thirty professional opportunities since

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Speaker 1: the attack, and that in itself has been difficult for

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Speaker 1: this acclaimed author. Laurent Savoy is the winner of Mount

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Speaker 1: Holio College's Distinguished Teaching Award and an Andrew Carnegie Fellowship.

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Speaker 1: She has held fellowships from the Smithsonian Institute and Yale University.

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Speaker 1: Her book Trace, Memory, History, Race, and the American Landscape

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Speaker 1: won the twenty sixteen American Book Club Award from Before

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Speaker 1: Columbus Foundation and the twenty seventeen Aslie Creative Writing Award.

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Speaker 1: It was also a finalist for the Pan American Book

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Speaker 1: Award and Philli Sweetley Book Award. It was also shortlisted

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Speaker 1: for the William Saroyan International Prize for Writing and the

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Speaker 1: Orion Book Award. Let's listen to Savoy speaking about her

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Speaker 1: book Trace to the twenty sixteen Brattleborough Literary Festival. Race

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Speaker 1: began in my struggle to answer or come to terms

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Speaker 1: with questions that have haunted me since childhood. Questions like

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Speaker 1: these in each of our lives is an instant, like

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Speaker 1: a camera shutter that opens and loadses. What can we

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Speaker 1: make of our place in the world for that instant

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Speaker 1: our latent image, and then over time, over generations, what

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Speaker 1: do accumulated instance mean? The book grew to become a

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Speaker 1: mosaic of personal journeys and historical inquiry across the continent

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Speaker 1: and time, trying to understand, or at least explore, how

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Speaker 1: this country's still unfolding history has marked the land, has

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Speaker 1: marked the society, and marks an individual because the voice

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Speaker 1: as the health issues she has suffered since the attack

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Speaker 1: all came about because her friend thought she would get

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Speaker 1: away with murder. Well she didn't. And this poor woman,

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Speaker 1: Lauret Savoy must be on pins and needles because if

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Speaker 1: the is sentenced to nine or ten years, she'll be

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Speaker 1: out in three. That gives her three years behind bars

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Speaker 1: to stew and fester about the one that got away.

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Speaker 1: Nancy Gray's Crime Story, signing off, Goodbye friend,