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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast. It's recognized by no one

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Speaker 1: in the United States. Welcome to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast, presented by the United States Marine Corps.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hans and joined and were filled

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Speaker 1: with heroes Mark Sassler, Chris Westling and Gregg Rose atal

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Speaker 1: What is up is? Hey? Dan? Oh? Yeah, Tuesday show?

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Speaker 1: So are we gonna throw it to the five minute

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Speaker 1: conversation we just had about the combine or ten minute

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Speaker 1: com which then ended with Dan man like, this is

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Speaker 1: the show we should have been taping this, which is

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Speaker 1: like something that's happened basically every time. There's no need

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Speaker 1: each other, there is no point talking when the mics

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Speaker 1: aren't on. At this point, I know that five minutes

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Speaker 1: because you know, you guys were nice enough to take

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Speaker 1: Those three days. Do not shake your head at me.

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Speaker 1: It was it was it was a nice break, That's

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Speaker 1: shadowy league figure. That's exactly how it went down. I

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Speaker 1: have text Dan was texting me. We were told I was,

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Speaker 1: me anyway that they're just the tier below, maybe the

428
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Speaker 1: top of that next year, but still not a team

429
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Speaker 1: that I think is gonna go through the NFC, which

430
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Speaker 1: is which is a gauntlet. Obviously, this I just saw

431
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Speaker 1: a team that could have White, They could have lost

432
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Speaker 1: his forty two to twenty, and it would been like, well,

433
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Speaker 1: I have no faith in you. And I thought that

434
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 1: this their second half was one where they did knock

435
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Speaker 1: him up on any level, right, So that's bad luck.

436
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: I mean their first four drives where a three and

437
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: out Cook Cook gets injured and loses a fumble. On

438
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: the same play, Digs drops a pass that turns into

439
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: an intersect. There are some crazy plays and but ultimately

440
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins did have a chance to go win the

441
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 1: game on their last drive, and he played well in

442
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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. But you know some of their play

443
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Speaker 1: calling that you're you know, you're throwing into La Kwan

444
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Speaker 1: Treadwell and then a covered I Smith is the only

445
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Speaker 1: option on fourth down. I'm I'm a little concerned, if

446
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Speaker 1: I'm a Vikings fan, that the run defense has been

447
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: so bad. Uh in this game the past defense has

448
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: been bad in other weeks. They bench Xavier Rhodes at

449
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Speaker 1: one point and then he said after the game, you know,

450
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Speaker 1: they try to talk to him and he's just like

451
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Speaker 1: I'm out the door and that you know, he that's

452
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 1: a bad situation. There's just like there's secondary her. It's

453
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: just you know, Riley Reef is hurt. Their their left

454
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: tackle didn't play the second half of this game. They've

455
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 1: got some issues they got to overcome. But the schedule

456
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: is favorable. Yeah, and this west this is I'm glad

457
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: Greg brought it up so I didn't have to. But

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Speaker 1: I will note that Kirk Cousins did take the field

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Speaker 1: with three seventeen to play in all three times. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, you're gonna try to make this about Kirk Cousins.

461
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: It's got to be said. God in particular, are gonna

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Speaker 1: try to make about Kirk Cousin. Someone needs to say it. No,

463
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Speaker 1: you really don't, You really don't. You and the rest

464
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Speaker 1: of Twitter do not have to say, hey, this is

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Speaker 1: about Kirk Cousins. You don't have to wait a second.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say that, So you're you're being selective and

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Speaker 1: what you're hearing from me right now. This loss was

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Speaker 1: on their defense, uh mostly, but it should be said.

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Speaker 1: He takes the field three seventeen to play three time outs,

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Speaker 1: down four points and goes five and out. That's all

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. You could say that

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Speaker 1: all I'm caring about is Kirk Cousins. Here's what that

473
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Speaker 1: was a moment because it happened at a time when

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Speaker 1: you were watching. You think it's more important than any

475
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Speaker 1: other game where a quarterback takes the field with three

476
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Speaker 1: minutes left. And I watched all the games West, I'm saying,

477
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Speaker 1: when when's the last time you pointed out another quarterback

478
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Speaker 1: in a similar situation didn't get it done because Kirk

479
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: Cousins is different than the other quarterbacks. Talking about it

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Speaker 1: in the pitchforks and torches crew on twitter ifty side

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Speaker 1: and he's a laughing stock. Point and point where is

482
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: the pitchfork right now? Where that you just brought it out?

483
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Speaker 1: You did not have to talk about Kirk Cousins there.

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Speaker 1: You really didn't. The story of that game was not

485
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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. As you see, you're in your feelings right now,

486
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Speaker 1: I am saying had sitting out that you're being unfair.

487
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: I mean, you tugged him into his feelings. I just

488
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Speaker 1: said it just how to be said. He didn't get

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Speaker 1: don't have to be said. That's my whole point. But

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Speaker 1: it was said West, and the narrative remains intact. Right,

491
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Speaker 1: keep your narrative. I saw a couple of little websites

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Speaker 1: trying to throw out cheak kirk Cousins jokes, and everyone

493
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Speaker 1: shot him down and said, you see any from me.

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Speaker 1: You know you didn't like s I little pop culture

495
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: website or whatever. Oh hey, let's do a doctor Phil

496
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: Gift Kirk kirk Cousins. Now that's hey, guy, your jokes stale.

497
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: When the guy leaves the League of Passer rating for

498
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Speaker 1: seven straight weeks, you're not really gonna make jokes about

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00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: his passing anymore. I I, for one, just want to

500
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Speaker 1: be on record, I'm glad you you brought it up

501
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: and it was not his fault and one saying no

502
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 1: one saying it was his fault. I I don't think

503
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: it was. But that was an opportunity for their team

504
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: that they will rue. I mean that he had and

505
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: they had an incredible comeback, and they did have a

506
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Speaker 1: chance for a massive wind that would keep them in

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Speaker 1: first place in the NFC North. That would have been

508
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Speaker 1: one of the most stirring winds of the entire Mike

509
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Speaker 1: zimmer era. And when they got that ball, I, like

510
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: a lot of Vikings fans kind of switched. I mean

511
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Speaker 1: I was. I was excited to like see what was

512
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: going to happen. The way it was going, it felt

513
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Speaker 1: like maybe they're gonna go down the field. I don't

514
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Speaker 1: put it on Cousins. They also were very short on

515
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Speaker 1: their wide receivers, but it was a blown opportunity that

516
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: that they're gonna be angry about. I look forward to

517
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: this with every other quarterback in the league, really, I

518
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: mean it's it has reached the point of absurdity that

519
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: every time Kirk Cousins has a chance to win, we

520
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: talk about him in a way we do with with

521
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Speaker 1: none of the other quarters, especially when the other quarterback

522
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: is missing their starting wide out, their star running back.

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Speaker 1: I think the left tackle is that point to I

524
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Speaker 1: get it. That's what would have made it, you know,

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Speaker 1: more stirring. I'm not No one's putting it on Cousin. Cousins.

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Speaker 1: If anything, there was some criticism, you know, It's just

527
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,959
Speaker 1: a tough spot where you're throwing to a covered Lakwan

528
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 1: Treadwell on third down and then you have basically one option,

529
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Speaker 1: no alternatives, but to throw it to IRV Smith, who

530
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: was well covered on on fourth down. And that's it.

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Speaker 1: The game's over. It's disappointing. I don't think Cousins had

532
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Speaker 1: a good game, but but he wasn't the story again. No,

533
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Speaker 1: I don't think he was good. He checked down a

534
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: little too much. I mean he was a lot of

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Speaker 1: that was because he was under durest, but he checked

536
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: down a little too much. He missed a couple of

537
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: throws late. But I don't think that needs to be

538
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: like a let's check in on Kirk Cousins situation, because

539
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: he played all right, he played okay, he wanted played

540
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: each other again. We got the Packers Vikings Week sixteen

541
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: should decide the NFC North. You never know, both teams

542
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: have cupcakes for the most part on their schedule otherwise,

543
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: and that should decide who gets in Seattle San Francisco

544
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: Week seventeen. I think you should start checking in on

545
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: Dan Bailey after every game. That's so you should check

546
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: in on well part of what We've talked about this

547
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: for weeks. I don't know why this is a surprise.

548
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: Part of what makes Cousins fun is because he invites

549
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: this type of UH scrutiny. He does, but his track

550
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: oh and eight on Monday nights West. This is why

551
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: is Monday Night more important than any zero play Do

552
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: you think we get better games on Monday Night? Because

553
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't zero playoff wins and he's never won on

554
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: Monday Night football. Have things that are attached to his resume. Okay,

555
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: you you want to talk about a late season win

556
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: and go home game, all right, I'm on board. Let's

557
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. This was not a late season

558
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: win or go home game. It was a Monday night game.

559
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: It was an important game that Monday night football. But

560
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: this is what's Mike Zimmer, what's their defense's record on

561
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: Monday Night? Like? To me, that's that That's who lost

562
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 1: this game. That's That's what I want to make clear.

563
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm not putting this on Kirk Cousins. I just why

564
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: did you think we have to address the issue if

565
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: you're not putting it on him, Because that is putting

566
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: because he I think he factored into the loss. He

567
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: put it, he wasn't the main reason, but he didn't

568
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: help him win. Put it this way, it's a thirty

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Speaker 1: four thirty and Russell Wilson takes the field with a

570
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: chance to win that game. I don't care who's off

571
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: who's on the field. Well he did, I mean, he

572
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: had a chance to go win the game, and he

573
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: took an awful sack and his defense won the game

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00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: fortive which which happened. He played, He threw an awful

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00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: interception in San Francisco and his defense helped win the game.

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00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: For we know, there's a different team quarterbacks to talk

577
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: about it after every game thirty other quarterbacks would love

578
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: to be Russell Wilson too. I mean, Russell Wilson is

579
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Speaker 1: incomparable with big, massive chunks of the league. All right,

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00:28:50,840 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: let's now do some news. It's back the champ is

581
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: he m? Greg had it first? The champions here commercial

582
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: um for NFL shop has come to it. It looks

583
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: like it's wound down and been replaced by a holiday ad.

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00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: And that was a big That was a big gift

585
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: for you, Greg. I gotta give it. It was a

586
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,959
Speaker 1: big part of the season. Why I haven't double sourced

587
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: it so if it shows up back Sunday, I mean,

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00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: I guess it's gonna look bad. But the champ has

589
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: been here for so long. He's been part of our life.

590
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: The Champ being here. I miss him. And I'll say this.

591
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: There is a sub section of football Twitter and this

592
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: This was news to me because I reported it and

593
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: I properly cited you. Greg was having at first that

594
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: Patriots fans coming out of the woodwork. What upset that

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00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: all these times they've been watching this commercial, they're annoyed

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00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: that no one's wearing Patriots gearing that commercial. The actual champion,

597
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: we're not there. That's the level of you know tho.

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00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: Those are the biggest issues they're dealing with right now.

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00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: It's fan base. It's like, yeah, that's not It's a

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Speaker 1: bunch of like young, hip, cool people dancing around and

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00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: that's not really the Patriots, you know fan. What about

602
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: the Browns guy with the biting motion. I see, here's

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00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: the thing I don't want so on Sundays, when we're tracking,

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00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, three games at the same time, you're watching

605
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: a television with sound, you have an earpiece in your ear.

606
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: With three other games, a red zone happen not here commercial,

607
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: because when you get in that area of the day

608
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: where three commercial breaks and you're happy at the same time,

609
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: and the champ is here, is playing a second and

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00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: a half off from each version, and it's blasting throughout

611
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: the entire room. And then it happens more times, and

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00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: then you have Dan and Gregg singing it throughout, just like,

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00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: guess what this stop being funny about two and a

614
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: half months ago, and you persist with the joke and

615
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: it goes on and it's now a drop on our show.

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00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: You cannot get cannot get to nine o'clock quick enough

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00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: on Sunday's a pickele for every time here and in

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00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: the back of my neck just right, and then it's

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Speaker 1: Dan singing it, and then Greg and then someone else

620
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: turning around, and then it's actually on the television. You

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00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: know who is happy about the champion? You too, We

622
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: get it. Jata kiss data kiss that his passing those checks.

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Speaker 1: It's him and M and M good for him and

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00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: his money, all right. So yes, Ron Rivera's canned, but

625
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett might not be far behind. Jared Jones has

626
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: been doing the media tour um ever since the Thanksgiving

627
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: loss to the Bills put Dallas's season upside down, and

628
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: Jared did, uh. Of course, he was in front of

629
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: the locker room and tears talking about how this team

630
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: had a like a Disney ending in store and then

631
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: don't give up on a stad yet. Um. And now

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00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: he's on the radio one oh five three the fan

633
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: and he's talking about Jason Garrett and being a head coach,

634
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 1: not necessarily with Dallas, but being a head coach, body's

635
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: got the exclusive skills to get the job done so

636
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: that collectively you can win a Super Bowl. But third

637
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: qualified people, Jason Joett is one of them. In my opinion,

638
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: Jason would be coaching in the NFL next year. Well, Mark,

639
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: you just got mad about champions here. You've gotta be

640
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: mad about that comment. Come on, Well, I mean, the

641
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: one thing I said over and over is that I

642
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if joining Ron Rivera assumed

643
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: would be Jason Garrett, because the tidbit that interests me

644
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: is Lincoln Riley, the Oklahoma coach. Ian Rappaport's saying that

645
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: he's formed in quotes a close relationship with Jerry Jones,

646
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: and I think that there is going to be competition

647
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: as I thought there would have been last year for

648
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, who has shown an ability to work with

649
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: young college system quarterbacks. And so, do you want to

650
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: be the you know, overly procedural cowboys that wait until

651
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: after week seventeen? And yeah, you're the cowboys. You have

652
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,959
Speaker 1: an advantage no matter what, or do you get on

653
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: that bus sooner or later if you know you're already

654
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: talking about Jason Garrett this way, if if your boss

655
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: was talking about you this way two people publicly, I'd

656
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: be concerned. I'd be looking for I'd be looking around

657
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: and Jason Garrett you can see it on his face

658
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: to some degree, I feel like in games and someone

659
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: ping me saying, how can you possibly know what Jason

660
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: Garrett is thinking by what he says on his face?

661
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: Because we mentioned that during the Thanksgiving telecast or broadcast

662
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: whatever it was that didn't get broadcasted, and they're like,

663
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 1: he he's the same face all the time. I know

664
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: he is, but it just seems to have that look

665
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: in his eyes where you can see it coming. He's out.

666
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: And I think that if you really want Lincoln Riley

667
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: and you want to move that train, that Jerry Jones

668
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: is already thinking that way that somebody had their ear

669
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: to the garage door at my house. I was able

670
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: they are one of the one of the ten or

671
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: twelve people that it's somehow escaped. Not blaming Erica, nor

672
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: would I ever for that would set a new precedent.

673
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: What you're suggesting that a first place team earmarked for

674
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: the playoffs with fire its coach. I mean that calling

675
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: them a first place team is like the when we

676
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: what we got into with the brock os Wwiler leading

677
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: the Texans to the playoffs thing. They're about his first

678
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: place a team right now, as me and West have

679
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: been through a lot today, you don't have to bring

680
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: up the Brock. Oh my god. Well, I'm not against

681
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: him to, but it was Cowboys are six and six

682
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: in first place last season, it would it would be

683
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: weird because yeah, they're trying. All they got to do

684
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: is get to the dance, and they might. They'll have

685
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: a home game, and you know, I don't know what's

686
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I mean, in theory, he could decide he'd

687
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: rather have Christopher Shard being the head coach. But why

688
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't that they lost the Chicago I I still

689
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: don't think he basically said he'll do it through the

690
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: end of the season. But it's just a hilarious quote.

691
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean it's the most Jerry Jones quote ever. I

692
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: wish every owner was like this if you really think

693
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: about it. I mean, he was willing to talk about it.

694
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: Was like halfway through what he's saying, and he's like,

695
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: how do I save this? And you know, the fending Garrett,

696
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: but he's I think he'll be a coach in the NFL.

697
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: Who knows it might be a position coach made sense?

698
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: I thought he was. He was. He was exactly, he'll

699
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: be a coach in the NFL. And you know, sports

700
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: are so stupid and in the most beautiful way that

701
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: you're right, Mark, Like the Cowboys shouldn't be taken seriously

702
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: and they're six and six and they're not a true

703
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 1: playoff team, but you know, watch them beat the Niners

704
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: in wild card weekend at home. I mean it's like

705
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: that should not surprise anyone. I mean, just like this idea,

706
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: but I'm saying the idea of things changed so quickly

707
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: in the NFL, so I would think firing Garrett or

708
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: is that what you were saying? Maybe you should be

709
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: let go now. And I'm saying I could see a party.

710
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: How about this, What if you wanted to get a

711
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: under pressure look and what this is not a super

712
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: Bowl team and Jerry Jones, I know he's delusional at times,

713
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: has to see that. What if you wanted to give

714
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: Chris Rochard, who I think is a head coach himself

715
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: and waiting a test run during a high pressure month

716
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: and to see what happens. Because maybe the big, the

717
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: big thing that keeps coming up with Jason Garrett is

718
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: canno connect with players. Well, maybe Chris Rochard can and

719
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: turn this locker room into something else and you go

720
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: avoid these postgame shouting matches in the locker room. They

721
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: are not on the same page as a team air

722
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: of small sample sizes. To like Freddie Kitchens using him

723
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: as an examples, I totally Dug Marone got his job

724
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: from two games with Blake Bordos, one of which they lost.

725
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: That's fine. You know what you have. You have a

726
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: large sample size on Jason Garrett. What's that gotten you?

727
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: It's gonna get you more the same a month from now.

728
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: I would respect that it would take some stones to

729
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: turn the ame over to Chris Richard, and maybe it

730
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: would produce some some results that you weren't getting from

731
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett. So we're gonna fire Garrett. No, I'm saying

732
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: it's in the air. It's although, well, it's got to

733
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: be possible, would be Jones? Now that would be stunning.

734
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: What if they got Wax thirty to seven on on

735
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: on Thursday night football against the Bears, and you and

736
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: I have to wait fifteen twenty minutes, thirty minutes as

737
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: you are wrap up because this news is breaking. I

738
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: could see that being as don't even speak that into that.

739
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: I see it being real the world. Well, you know

740
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: you well you also just want to wait for the

741
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: press conferences. I think get some sound, you know you

742
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: want to cover. That's a big storm. We'll be we'll

743
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: we'll call you two in for because that would definitely

744
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: need all four of us. So let's move on. The

745
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars are in tatters right now. Speaking of Doug Moron, uh.

746
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: Following eleven loss to the Bucks in which Nick Foles

747
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: turned it over and each of his first three possessions,

748
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: all three of those positions leading to touchdowns for the enemy,

749
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: Maron went back to Gardner Minshew at the half and

750
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: he announced what we all expected, that Minshew will stay

751
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: in the lineup. Uh, both this Sunday against the Charger

752
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: Chargers and for the balance of the regular season. So

753
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: Minshew back in and the Minshew maniacs get their guy,

754
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: and that's good. I would say to me, Mark, The

755
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: biggest storyline now out of this is what the hell

756
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: are they gonna do with Nick Foles? This guy they

757
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: just signed to what an eighty eight million dollar contract

758
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: with a ton of money guaranteed. What is the next

759
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: step in this marriage? Now? Well, I gets to wait

760
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: and see, and it's if we if it. The next

761
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: coach that goes to Carolina has a lot to think

762
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: about and a lot to ponder along with the rest

763
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: of the team for Cam Newton, so does the next

764
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: coach in Jacksonville. There's gonna be a new coach. They're

765
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: barring something shocking, that would be stunning if you want stunning,

766
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: and they've got to figure out what to do with

767
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: this situation. And I will point out that the minute

768
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: the Gardner Minshew came in, the Browns up tend nothing.

769
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield was on fire. And what happened to the

770
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: Browns the minute Gardner when the minute Minshew men, And

771
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, well, what this you know, what's your theory,

772
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: my my doppelganger theory that they are They're too much

773
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: alike and there's too much of the same thing. And

774
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: the Gardner Minshew pulled energy. Garner Minshew went, Now the

775
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: line up the Browns one three in a row. He

776
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: came back in with them up, tend nothing in Pittsburgh

777
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: against the Steelers. Baker Mayfield is a terrible fumble, the

778
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: Browns melt away. Gardner's back starting again troubling. So what

779
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: do you want to happen? Then? I am very conflicted

780
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: because I like Gardner Minshew too, and I don't know

781
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: what to do. He would have to all of it

782
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: ends after this season. All whatever is happening bastically ends

783
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 1: after this season, like like in Carolina. Yeah, I think

784
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: the next coach and possibly the next GM are going

785
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: to decide what they do at quarterback. And falls is

786
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: almost impossible to cut. You end up paying more money

787
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: on the cap to cut him than you would just

788
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: to keep him. But he could be very tradeable if

789
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: you're willing to eat some of his salary cap and

790
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: that becomes a little a little more palatable that if

791
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: they really want to get rid of him, I think

792
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,479
Speaker 1: someone would trade for him, especially if the Jaguars eat

793
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: some money. But again, I don't think falls. It didn't

794
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: work for the I mean talk about small sample size.

795
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: It didn't work for the three games three and a

796
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: half games he played coming off a serious injury, obviously,

797
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: but court they're in better shape at quarterback than they

798
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 1: have been, you know, for the rest of this decade

799
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: with Foals and Minshew. So I I don't think it's

800
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: like some you know, emergency. Their team is an emergency.

801
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: I was surprised. I looked at your power rankings, Dan,

802
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, they'd be number thirty two. I

803
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: think they are the worst team in the NFL right now.

804
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: I mean in terms of how they play, and they

805
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: have not been within three scores of an opposing team

806
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: in five straight game, four straight games. That's outrageous. Didn't

807
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: blow it. I just say they're not even there's a

808
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: case of the late twenties over the Mounts. Just a

809
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: bad He's just a bad combination with that offensive line

810
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: which was getting its doors blowed off by Buccaneers pass rushers.

811
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: In that game, and even Minshew when he came in,

812
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: had to make incredibly quick jump cuts to get out

813
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: of the way just to get passes off. And I

814
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: think the three games we saw with Fools it looked

815
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: like a much less effective version of the Flacco Broncos

816
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: offense where you had this, as Mark would say, stone

817
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: pony behind a stone age pony who cannot block, and

818
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: Fools just moved too slow. I'm Chad con was kind

819
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: of the David Tepper of the league when he came in.

820
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: He's done some interesting things and including making them the

821
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, the team of London. I am really fascinated

822
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: to see what they do with their offseason. Then they're

823
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: about as analytic minded as any team in the NFL. Uh.

824
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: Finally news uh kai four beev Oh boy, he's been

825
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: evicted from the kicker club. That was quick um a

826
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: day after appearing in his first game with the Patriots,

827
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: a game in which he missed an extra point, but

828
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 1: he absolutely hammered a twenty three yard field goal um

829
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 1: through the upgrades uprights and also hit an extra point. Uh.

830
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: The Pats decided to go in a different direction, so

831
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: for Bath it was waived and Nick Folk who has

832
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: been on the mend. Following that appendex to me which

833
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: led to the Forebeth signing, is Folk back in now

834
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: or do they? Are they looking for another kicker and

835
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: what are we up to? Five? I think that if

836
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 1: this is how you went Supermo, if Folk is healthy,

837
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: uh yeah, and the plan is he's back. So yeah,

838
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: he's Stephen Guskowski. They started with, then they went to

839
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: the Nus, then they went to Folk Hero and they

840
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: brought him off a golf course. Then they got Kai's

841
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: Kai and now back to Folk. I believe so like

842
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: this is gonna because it's the Patriots. No one actually knows,

843
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: you know, It's like, hey, who needs an appendix? Get

844
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: back out on the field of the folk. It's like,

845
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: I don't know and I and I say for them,

846
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: for all the Kai heads out there, that this is

847
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: the best thing that could have happened, because when you

848
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: didn't want to see him thrive with the evil Empire,

849
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: let's let's get him back and it's get him practicing

850
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: right now. You're a fan of Kai I because ever

851
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: since we kind of connected the dots that I might

852
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: have something to do with it potentially, Yeah, who would

853
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: want to have a career changing playoff kicks in Foxboro.

854
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: That would be terrible for him. Give me a break,

855
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: this was his chance blew it no matter who they

856
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: trot out there. At this point, he's blowing the game

857
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: for him my favorite, uh, I think, But I want

858
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: him to get back in the league with a team

859
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: that's not the Patriots. I am convinced not the Jets.

860
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 1: Belichick took a delay of game penalty, UH to make

861
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: Kai's extra point a little longer in the second half

862
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: of that game, just as a test, and that was

863
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: his I'm just gonna mess with Kai a little bit.

864
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at the long term picture and see

865
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: what Kai how he handles this. And Kai yanked it

866
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: and at that point he was an XP. How much

867
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: money did he make for essentially one week of work

868
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: with the Patriots. I don't know if it's over under,

869
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: like twenty grand not a bad it's wait, it's well, yeah,

870
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: minimum is what eight hundred thousand and then you divide

871
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: that by seventeen, So be a kicker, be a be

872
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: a bad kicker that gets pulled in like by a

873
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: team for one week and make you know, sixty I

874
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: think seven thousand and then go back and do nothing

875
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: for the next two years. And uh, I mean, kay's

876
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: the problem with Kai Kai Kai. He got used to

877
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: that lifestyle when guy was really Kai and suddenly You've

878
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: got a mortgage at Bay Sky Hi Kai. They called

879
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: him you got you got women, you got everything. Well,

880
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: we don't know that, we don't know that he has

881
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: all those things. But um, and one last note in

882
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: the news. I always like these things. One of the

883
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: best players of the year was that trick play on

884
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: Sunday night, Uh, Deshaun Watson receiving the past some DeAndre Hopkins.

885
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: It was revealed that Hopkins and Watson drew it up

886
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: on a piece of notebook paper and handed it to

887
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: the coach. I like when football gets like broken down

888
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: to just kids in a playground. Feels it's awesome. It's

889
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: it's a great little twist to that they've been practicing

890
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: it for four weeks. It's very similarly. Uh, the Steelers

891
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: players were talking about how Mike Tomlin got on the

892
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: chalkboard at halftime against the brass and broke it down

893
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: what they were in high school. Here's what we're gonna

894
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: do to break Marks Sessler's heart. Yeah, it's like, you know,

895
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: not even a dryer race board, chalkboard. I like that, Zolac.

896
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: Do you think he's gotten over it yet? By the way,

897
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: the loss, well the trick play, he hasn't acknowledged it.

898
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: That might be coming back, coming back, Scott, did you

899
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: really not listen to it before we were on the show.

900
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: So I sort of got it. That was the first

901
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 1: time i'd heard it. It delivered. Can I hear that again? Delivered?

902
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: It seemed like you knew it was gonna be good.

903
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: That might come back. That's not gonna stand. All right,

904
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news real quick. Let's check

905
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: in with the teams that we forked, uh two weeks

906
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: ago today, because there needs to be accountability, of course,

907
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 1: and we're all about that. So let's see the teams

908
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: that we forked. Do we have our old shack? All right?

909
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: We had forked you know, I look back at this listen.

910
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: I was like, come on, guys, I mean, if we're

911
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: gonna do it, we should do it. Yeah. Bengals, Redskins, Giants, Dolphins, Bucks, Jets, Cardinals, Lions, Broncos, Bears, Falcons, Chargers, Panthers.

912
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: And I was pushing for the Eagles, which they've lost

913
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: both games since. But there's still just one game out,

914
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: so that that's that would be a ballsy one. The

915
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: Browns were all in favor of keeping. Was there another

916
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: team that we were on the fence a little bit

917
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: at the time. We discussed the Rams, discussed the Rams.

918
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: They lost, but then how to win and they're kind

919
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: of hanging around. This is our last chance to to fork.

920
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: I think we should stick our next next out a

921
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: little bit here. Wait, we're gonna we're actually going to

922
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 1: fork teams today. Didn't know that certainly while we're here,

923
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: we should you know, you know, take out the cod piece,

924
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, let's let's get out

925
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: there and and and risk it. You can get rid

926
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: of Cleveland, no risk it, no biss Yeah, Cleveland's Cleveland's gone.

927
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: Had a hand this original take, I didn't know what

928
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: to say, all right, I would vote for the Browns

929
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: as well at the stage West, Okay, get the Browns out. Uh.

930
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: This list looks that we were ahead of the game

931
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: because all those teams that were on the borderline have

932
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: lost two straights since we since we fork. Oh, the

933
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: Bears have one two straight and no one's worried about that.

934
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: I'd still fork the Bears because they're they're schedules, treacherous.

935
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah for them, I'm keeping them alive. I don't know.

936
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: This Cowboys team is such a mess that I just

937
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: I just you know that that that game is a

938
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: playoff game for the Eagles. The Cowboys could get in otherwise.

939
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: But you're a slick one and you want this to

940
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: go away. Why wouldn't you vote a team that you

941
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: think could make the playoffs, thus ending the segment forever.

942
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: I feel like this is me a chess move that

943
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: you would have employed. You a slick one, Get me

944
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: on my tombs, done us a slick one integrity. I

945
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: think the Eagles have a shot. That's the reason. Is

946
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: there any other team but besides the Browns, I feel

947
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: like we're I don't think you can fork the rand

948
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: out the Raiders. I could have. I actually wanted to

949
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: fork the Raiders two weeks ago, but I felt bad

950
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: for their head, their head in the wrong dur I

951
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: would fork them to just I want them to hang around,

952
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 1: especially Mark. I know you're going there in a few weeks.

953
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: We want some drama there. Not because I think anyone

954
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: believes that they're going to be on the edge of

955
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: a part Yeah, are they really hanging around? I mean

956
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: they are there only one game behind the Steelers and Titans,

957
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: and so they beat If they beat the Titans on Sunday,

958
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: they're they're They're okay, they're seven and six. They are.

959
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: I just don't Their schedule is Jaguars, Chargers, Broncos after

960
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to fork him. I don't want to

961
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: see you were the one you're talking about what I'm

962
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: saying that particular team I don't want to do well.

963
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: I know we all have particular two exactly. That's why

964
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: it's hard to agree on. Well I was, I was

965
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: trying to get the Eagles out two weeks ago. Let's

966
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: get them out there. Now I'm sticking with them, and

967
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: Eagles out, I would get rid of the Raiders and

968
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: uh to get rid of the Raiders more, and I

969
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 1: would get rid of the cult I will. Let's get

970
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: their schedule is pretty favorable. They do have to play

971
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: in New Orleans, so if you've gotta if you need

972
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: to get to ten wins, it's gonna be tougher. And

973
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: they lost to Pittsburgh too, so they don't have a

974
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: tiebreaker against Pittsburgh. They have the Panthers and Jaguars to

975
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: to finish up in the bucks this week. But yeah,

976
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fork them. They could go to and to

977
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: Jake brisket Is thrown passes to like ups, delivery men

978
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: and and mailmen. At this point, all right, I'm down

979
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: to fork. Then that's where Greg sneakily gets a team

980
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: out that might just get back in without it being

981
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: too overt. Sill that. What about the Rams? I just honestly,

982
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: I think i'd be the first person to say remove it.

983
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: But I'm a little freaked out after the last. And

984
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: we can get get into that in our next segment.

985
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: But it's planning to get into it. And all right,

986
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: so the Cleveland and Browns, the Indian Polans accounts, they're

987
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: both gone, and uh still, you know the cod piece,

988
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: I would say, still, it's like from a Shakespearean play setting.

989
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: I would fork the Raiders just for the fun of it.

990
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: But then we'd be rooting against the right. I don't know.

991
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if it feels right. Hey, they're not

992
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: fun to root against the season. Hey, here here's a

993
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: good reason to do it. They've been outscored seventy four

994
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: to the last two weeks. That's terrible. They're not good.

995
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean that's seventy four to well. Watch them wins

996
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: Sunday though. Fine, these things don't seem to mean anything.

997
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: I get it. But getting blown out like that badly

998
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, you're not good. And could they win

999
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: three out of four? I really doubt it, But even

1000
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: that wouldn't get them in the playoffs. This is a

1001
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: pretty safe fork in my mind. I mean, I think

1002
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: they're a team that should be happy for four. Anybody

1003
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: else I would because yeah, Conraders. So we forked three

1004
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: more teams and that Ricky, how many did we have

1005
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: before that going into today? Um, we had I sent

1006
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: them to one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, eleven, twelve, thirteen.

1007
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: This is the goal that we always set. We wanted

1008
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: a fork half the league. Thirteen plus three much sixteen sixteen.

1009
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: That's half the league. So we've forked half of football.

1010
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: Now now the cod pieces inching out inch by inch

1011
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: West I've ever figured out what this means. I'm gonna

1012
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 1: like it all right. I mean, seventy four to twelve.

1013
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: The one touchdown was in garbage time, that they were desperate,

1014
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: that that drive annoyed me desperate still see them finishing

1015
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: nine and seven? Um, all right, let's now this is

1016
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: kind of like a sister segment here, which team changed

1017
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: your mind the most in Week thirteen? West, I know

1018
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: you're excited. West. Uh, let's get going with you here.

1019
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: Which team did uh? You know you watched him and

1020
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: said whoa wo wo woaoa stop the clocks. Well Mark

1021
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: alluded to this a minute ago. But the the Los

1022
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams, whom I've been saying for the past six weeks,

1023
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 1: just not a good football team. Their offense is broken,

1024
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: their offensive line is not trustworthy. They're all pro running

1025
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: back as a shell of his former self. The quarterback

1026
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: hasn't played well in over a year. Uh. In the defense,

1027
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: defense actually pretty good this year. And what I saw

1028
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: against the Cardinals. And you can say, hey, it was

1029
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Sure, there's there's some of that, um, But

1030
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 1: the Cardinals had played the forty niners to the nails

1031
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: in two straight games. They played a really close game

1032
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: at the Bucks. We have been saying the Cardinals look

1033
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: pretty good, and the Rams came out partying like it

1034
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 1: was two thousand seventeen. By the way, welcome back Todd Gurley.

1035
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: He's been pretty good the last you're saying, he's moving

1036
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: like the tide of Earl Old. I would say, for

1037
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 1: the first time this year, when I saw Todd Gurley play,

1038
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: I thought, yes, you can justify that contract in two

1039
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: thousand twenty. He looked explosive, elusive, smooth, no longer just

1040
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: a grinder, which he had been most of the year.

1041
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: His best run of the game was a twenty yard

1042
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: touchdown that was called back on a holding penalty. I

1043
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: think we're exploded through the whole looking like two thousand

1044
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: seventeen Todd Gurley. And my contention is that this offense

1045
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: has always been about Todd Gurley. Everything about the offense

1046
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: is about Todd Gurley opening things for the play action

1047
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: game in Jared Golf. If he's playing at that level,

1048
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: this is a team because I think you can look

1049
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: at that game where it's mid third quarter, Rams half

1050
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: four two yards and Cardinals, and you say which one

1051
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: is more impressive, the smothering ball hawking defense or the

1052
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: smoothest silk big play offense and that game smooth silk.

1053
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: They were smoothing. I mean golf was in in rhythm.

1054
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: Girley was explosive that Robert Woods was making up against

1055
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: one of the worst past and hammered them, and do

1056
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: you trust that I've I've been on like believing that

1057
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: they can turn around for much of the year, and

1058
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: I think they've had stretches. People slept on that their

1059
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: offense had some good performances, including in Seattle. It just

1060
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: comes down to can you win. I think they can

1061
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: beat the Seahawks this week. That's what their season comes

1062
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: down to. It though. You gotta beat the Seahawks and

1063
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: then you gotta win it in Dallas to set up

1064
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: that it matters Week sixteen going to San Francisco. So

1065
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: it's a very tough road for them. Well, you could

1066
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: get if the Vikings go in the hole, you could

1067
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: get that wild card, right, but he still probably got it.

1068
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: No matter what, you gotta win. I think three out

1069
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: of these four, the question for me is their offensive line.

1070
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: They're the one area I still don't trust. I don't

1071
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: know if they can play that well against and according

1072
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: to Pro Football Focus, even though they were getting five

1073
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: yards by the middle of the third quarter, the offensive

1074
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: line still played poorly except for Whitworth. They were on

1075
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: my list two. I've been hard on them all year

1076
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: and they gave me pause a big time at watching

1077
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: the game pass of that film too. I the rams

1078
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: to me. But your every year you get one of

1079
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: these teams that's kind of been a sleeper all season long,

1080
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: and they awakened for the last four games. They win

1081
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: three or four, they win four or five, and they

1082
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: sneak into the wild card. And like this, this team

1083
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: has a playoff experience. I wouldn't put it past I

1084
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: was one of the most impressive performances by any team

1085
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: all year. Sunday Night A fun A good one for

1086
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: Alan Chris Seattle, Los Angeles. Me, all right, Mark, which

1087
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 1: team changed your man? Well, I'll start with a team

1088
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: that I was destroying days before on Twitter. It was

1089
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh because I really really believed that Ptsburg. Yes, I'd

1090
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: said that a comprehensive hammer drop was about to occur,

1091
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 1: and I couldn't have been more wrong. And I fell

1092
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: for uh, I fell into a trap of not understanding

1093
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: what the Steelers have been all along. They've really been

1094
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 1: this team all along, and I know that Mike Tomlin peeps,

1095
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: there are there's a pocket of Steelers fans and a

1096
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: pocket of football people that think that Mike Tomlin should

1097
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: have been gone before, should be gone at some point.

1098
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: This is coach of the Year material for me, and

1099
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: what I really think of when I think of coach

1100
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,919
Speaker 1: of the year because of what has been stripped away

1101
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: and how many excuses he could have and his just

1102
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: the way he marches around on the sideline and the

1103
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: way that and to the point chalkboarding at halftime and

1104
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: he doesn't care is in there. And you know, as

1105
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to this Raiders game and I'm doing some

1106
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: research on the Raiders of the seventies and UH late

1107
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: sixties and early seventies, who were essentially misfits an a

1108
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: f L outfit that almost went bankrupt and then became

1109
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: an NFL job and because Al Davis just believed in

1110
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: every single person on the roster, and he brought people

1111
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: in that no one wanted and they believed they would

1112
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: win every week, and they won with lesser rosters than

1113
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: some other teams had. And it reminds me of Pittsburgh's total, tough, minded,

1114
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: badass three week after week, their total men, and they

1115
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: proved it against a Browns team UH with too much

1116
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: talk around it, too much chaos and the lack of discipline,

1117
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: and who cares how much talent they have. Pittsburgh didn't care,

1118
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: and they changed my mind going forward in the sense

1119
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: that I don't care about the record. I don't care

1120
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: about who they play. I don't care about who's playing quarterback.

1121
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: They have a chance every week. They're gonna make the

1122
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 1: playoffs and they're gonna win their first round playoff game. Well,

1123
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: I do care who's playing quarterback, and that's why they

1124
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 1: helped convince me that they're a factor. Because Duck Hodges

1125
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: did look good. I was, you know, skeptical, is such

1126
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: a limited sample size that we saw him before. I

1127
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: think he showed a little more in this game that

1128
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: he did previously. I mean, Duck Hutton's fun. He's a

1129
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: little Philip Rivers. Like the way he throws it and

1130
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: like slings it down the field like not a big arm,

1131
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: but a good downfield thrower. I was impressed that after

1132
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: he threw an awful interception that they let him keep

1133
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: throwing to win the game. Was a big show of confidence.

1134
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: Benny Snell ran pretty well for them. You know, I

1135
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: love the way Deante Johnson like they have just enough offense,

1136
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: which I didn't think they had. But what duck Hodges,

1137
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: I do think they have just enough offense to be

1138
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: a fact of the opponent, right, I mean, yeah, this

1139
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: act work once you get to the superpower stage of

1140
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: probably not, but I didn't at this whole year, I

1141
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: did not think they could make the playoffs. And now

1142
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: I realized they beat those rams, they haven't, they have

1143
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: a pretty good chance to make the playoffs. Um. Now

1144
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: his nickname is duck. There's a story floating around that

1145
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: him and James Washington, Um, they go hunting together. They

1146
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: hunt duck. So I assume that's where his nickname. He's

1147
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: always been a duck hunter. How many ducks do you

1148
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: have to shoot to get the nickname duck? I mean,

1149
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: what do you think he's kill kill? I believe he's

1150
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: an expert duck caller, and that's right right he won that.

1151
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: You know, I'll call the duck to pat on the

1152
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: head because he started that Sunday night game when we

1153
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: were in London and Al leaned into the I mean,

1154
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: the whole telecast was about the competitions he won statewide

1155
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: duck hunt conditions. He loved it. It was Al at

1156
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: his finest. All right, you go, Greg, Uh the Bills.

1157
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: I was worried everybody was just gonna just say the Bills,

1158
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: and you didn't. So I'm pleased because I I fell

1159
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: into the trap of kind of like you you see

1160
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: a team all year and and you get caught into like, well,

1161
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: they're not as good as their numbers say they are

1162
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: and and their defense isn't as good as everyone says

1163
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: there And like I think that was true of the

1164
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: first two months. But I wasn't. I wasn't unbiased enough

1165
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: to see what was happening. That this team was now

1166
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: playing to what their record was, and their defense is

1167
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: now playing to what we expected at the beginning of

1168
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: the season. And most importantly, Josh Allen is I mean

1169
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: played the best game of his career uh in Dallas

1170
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: and has played three I think the two games before

1171
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: it were good, maybe a little overheated, but good enough

1172
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: and enough of him running the ball that this team

1173
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: is dangerous. And they've played their best three games of

1174
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: the year I think in a row, and that's what

1175
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: you want to be entering the sembl. Well to your point, uh,

1176
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: Aaron Shots from Football Outsiders tweeted late last night. Josh

1177
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: Allen's d v o A was minus twenty four point

1178
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: eight in weeks one through five, and it's plus six

1179
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: point seven from weeks seven to thirteen. He's been an

1180
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: above average, not turning it over anymore. And and with

1181
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: that team and that defense and the way they're operating,

1182
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: that's kind of the key from him. What yeah, how

1183
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: would you explain that turn around? Did they Was there

1184
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: a schematic shift or is it just him getting more

1185
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: and more comfortable. We forget that he's only been around

1186
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: what for about twenty NFL starts avoiding mistakes, I think

1187
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: is the number one just being a little more careful,

1188
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: I think dialing it, dialing it back a little bit.

1189
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: And he's gotten into he's gotten he got in the

1190
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: Dallas game at least into a good hot streak of

1191
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: good decision making and good throws. And he just having

1192
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: increased comfort with Cole Beasley and John Brown week after week,

1193
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: John Brown quietly leading or was leading before last week,

1194
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: the a f C and receiving, and just as importantly though,

1195
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: Matt Milana is everywhere, and the defense is the game

1196
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: wrecking defense that we we talked. We were, we were

1197
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: very high and the Bills going in saying that they

1198
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: could win ten or eleven games because their defense, and

1199
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: you've and you've really seen it the last three three weeks,

1200
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: and add Oliver has been a new man since he

1201
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: got benched. He's just played a lot better. He's been good.

1202
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: I think you can trade Josh Allen's good play. Also

1203
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: back to Devon Singletary emerging as the feature back there.

1204
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: The Bills have who this week the Ravens. They have

1205
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: a very tough skate. They have the Ravens, they have

1206
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: the Patriots, they have the Steelers at Pittsburgh and at

1207
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: New England Jets to close. It's as tough as it gets.

1208
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: But I don't care. I think they're just gonna be

1209
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: a load to deal with even if the Ravens win

1210
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: that game, and and they're gonna be alload to deal

1211
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: with for the Steelers and the Patriots if they ever won.

1212
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: They're at home against Baltimore, so that's you know, they

1213
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: have a shot if they ever won that game and

1214
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: the Pats lose and they got the headhead matchup coming up,

1215
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: that is wow. Can you imagine that nobody would have

1216
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: predicted that before the season. You could also you can

1217
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: also draw a journey to ten and six, and I'm not.

1218
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm high on the Bills and super enjoy them and

1219
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: root for them as like a pet team. But that's

1220
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: that is off. That's a playoff run right there, right

1221
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: But at Pittsburgh to me, now, I think at Pittsburgh

1222
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: at New England, are you know, more winnable than I

1223
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: Certainly at Pittsburgh and in New England's more winnable than

1224
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: I thought it would be in ten and six, more

1225
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: winnable than you thought it would be. Well, because the

1226
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: Bills look this good, Yes, I don't trust anyone watch

1227
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: more Steelers defense. I also would say that I just

1228
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: think that's an even matchup at Worth Buffalo. New England

1229
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: is not a normal game, the same way that the

1230
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: Jets in the deal with New England and bad teams

1231
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: deal with that one superpower in their own division. That

1232
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: there are a lot of ghosts hanging around that and

1233
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: that would be an epic, gigantic, huge victory for so

1234
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: many more reasons than the current state of the team

1235
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: or the record. Speaking of ghosts hanging around the Texans

1236
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: changed my mind in Week thirteen. And I've always liked

1237
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: the Texans I like O'Brien, I love the quarterback, but

1238
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: it always did feel like, um, there was an intimidation

1239
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: factor or a little brother complex with the Patriots. Uh,

1240
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: you know the letterman Jackson all that, And I have

1241
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: to admit when certain Texans players showed up Sunday in

1242
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: kevl r vest and reposing in the in the tunnel

1243
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: underneath the stadium, I thought it was fifty nothing. Jones

1244
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: had a great point that I had a magic Mike

1245
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: vibe to it. It was so bad it was. It

1246
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: was the most happy birthday. If the most cringe e

1247
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: thing that's happened in this season was Jalen Ramsey getting

1248
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: out of the um the armored truck with the money

1249
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: bags and the hype man to an empty parking lot

1250
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: at Jacksonville training camp. This was right there, or even

1251
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: a smidge above. So that was on my radar. And

1252
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: then they went out and played with absolutely no fear

1253
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: against the Patriots. That was a big takeaway from the

1254
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: game for me. Not only did they win, uh, they

1255
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: played loose, they played confident. The you know the trick

1256
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: play we talked about Zolac. You remember the trick play,

1257
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: don't you? Uh? That play that just shows that might

1258
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: be coming back. They're not afraid of them anymore. And

1259
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: I think that's a big subplot around uh, the NFL

1260
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: right now, that people maybe are pumping up too much

1261
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: that the Patriots are going down in flames. I don't

1262
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: believe that necessarily, but I do now sincerely believe after

1263
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: this win, which I think was big on a number

1264
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: of levels, that the Texans, and I'll go with the

1265
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks here, the holy trinity in the a f C

1266
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: of young quarterbacks which is my homes Lamar and Watson.

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Speaker 1: One of those guys is gonna rise up and take

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Speaker 1: over the a f C uh and is going to

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Speaker 1: take the crown in January. I just feel like this

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01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: is the year and I'll probably be eating my words

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01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: come the end of January. But I know I would

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Speaker 1: not have put Watson in that category until I saw

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Speaker 1: the way the Texans played again with no fear against

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. I don't think, uh, they would be a

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Speaker 1: push over against New England in January. It's an amazing

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01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: setup in the a f C. I I think, I mean,

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01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: we're we're lucky. We've had some years where it hasn't

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01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: been like this two that these quarterbacks Watson, Lamar and

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01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: Mahomes are leading three of the best teams. Is awesome,

1280
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: I think for a football fan. And you still have

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01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: the old guard like Breeze and Brady are gonna be

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01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: in that mix, and and Russell Wilson's kind of in between.

1283
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: But to have like these, I don't know, it's like

1284
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: a great set up for the playoffs this year. I

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01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: hope it doesn't. One little thing I note is that

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01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: the SWAT uniforms, We're just gonna get born more of that,

1287
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: because I don't think that that that as its own

1288
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: thing would be annoying. You had Seahawks players last night

1289
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: showing up in pajamas um. You had another group of

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01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: the Texans linebackers have been doing it. A few weeks

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01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: we were on its it it was Mortal Kombat. That

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01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: was what it was. A few weeks ago. The Universe.

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01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: They weren't wearing shirts right right that they look like Chippindale's.

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01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna get more and more. So I'm telling you

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01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: settle in for a fun December. This is the happiest

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01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: I've been with the NFL and months. Look at look

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01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: at what's going on. Jaguar Steelers Bengals, Broncos, Redskins are

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01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: all playing their best and ORMs most exciting quarterback after

1299
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: making some weird decisions. There's no tanking going on the

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01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: only when the only question is really Philip Rivers among quarterbacks.

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01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: The league is in for a good place and in

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01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: mid December, it doesn't hurt that the Redskins, Dolphins, Jets,

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01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: Bengals have all played better over the last month where

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01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: there doesn't seem like as many just total walkovers. Someone

1305
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: even shook awake Al river Roun where we might be

1306
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: a good shape. That's true. That's a good point. All right,

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01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 1: there you go, good seg oh, hold on real quick.

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01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: Two teams you do not want to see on your

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01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: schedule for for December. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers. You don't

1310
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: want anything to do with him right now. Their their

1311
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 1: front seven is getting after people and their offense is explosive,

1312
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: and you don't want to play the Bengals right now.

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01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: They're not the pushover you thought they were. By the way,

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01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: speaking of the Bucks, your little Shack Barrett narrative. When

1315
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: I have Evan Silva tweeting at me about Shack Barrett,

1316
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: me alone, whose narrative well because what I said my narrative,

1317
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: I said that every year, not just I'm looking at

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01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 1: the whole room. Every year. I said, every year there's

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01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: a player that jumps out to eight sacks, usually goes,

1320
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: they'll get three or four in one game, and then

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01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: they flatline. I was it had nothing to do with

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01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: the person. You also did follow up and predict he

1323
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: will get stuck at that. That only confuses the point, Craig.

1324
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: I think that the one guy I was thinking of

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01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 1: was the year that Lorenzo Alexander for the Bills. J

1326
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,919
Speaker 1: N Claiborne did it. Yeah, I mean That's what I'm saying.

1327
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: But then now it's turned into Mark Is against Shack

1328
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 1: Barrett Is. I couldn't be happy. The great thing is

1329
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: that he tweeted at me about some Shack Barrett like

1330
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, metrics tweeting. I was just like, I just clicked,

1331
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: like because it's like it's just gone. You know, he

1332
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: could he has an outside, he's two sacks, he's got

1333
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 1: fourteen and a half. Now he is two sacks away

1334
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: from Warren SAPs franchise record. Wow, and guess what he's

1335
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: not going on the door. What if Shack? What if

1336
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: he says, the NFL record and restores the dignity and

1337
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: the prize. Be more happy for him, And I think

1338
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: it's I think we'd have to replace Mark, So what

1339
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: would happen. He'll become the highest paid defensive player in

1340
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: league history this offseason. It'll be great. I'll become out

1341
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 1: a mid tier paid blogger somewhere else. The all time

1342
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: the NFL record is twenty two and a half, so

1343
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: he'd have to get hot. He needs eight in four games,

1344
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,439
Speaker 1: but he had seven and two games earlier in the season,

1345
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: leading to Mark's um attack generalized attack on NFL trends.

1346
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: All right, uh, real quick, Thursday Night Football preview. We

1347
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 1: already talked a bunch about Dallas. We know that they um,

1348
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: despite being in first place in the NFC East, they've

1349
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: just been playing so inconsistent And I forget, it feels

1350
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: like a million years ago. West they were three and

1351
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: oh you know, and now there's six and six And

1352
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: I'll do the math on this one. They so three three,

1353
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: they've lost six of nine. That's that's bad. That's like

1354
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: what a bad team does. So are they a bad

1355
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: team as it turns out, or are they is so dysfunctional?

1356
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: Internally and with Gara piping up all the time, is

1357
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 1: it just created like a tight atmosphere. There's all sorts

1358
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: of questions to ask just beyond what the talent on

1359
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,919
Speaker 1: the roster is. And now they go to the Bears

1360
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: on the road in prime time. This wes This feels

1361
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: to me like a little bit of a dangerous spot

1362
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, who obviously need to get right game

1363
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: in the worst way. They do need to get right game.

1364
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 1: And I think they're the kind of team that sort

1365
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 1: of defies any kind of fastial analysis you when so

1366
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: much of what they're doing wrong is the little things

1367
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: are coming back to bite them. Randomness which he saw

1368
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: in that stretch against the Bills where bad luck, every

1369
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: bad break went against them against the Bills for for

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01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 1: a two quarter stretch where they dominated the first quarter.

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01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: I thought it was Zeke's best first quarter of the

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01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: entire season, breaking tackles, and they were only up seven

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01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: and nothing at the end of that quarter when they

1374
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: should have been up more, and that came back to

1375
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: bite them. A lot of what comes back to bite

1376
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 1: them is their own doing and their own lack of rhythm,

1377
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: and their own lack of getting everyone on the same page.

1378
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 1: But I mean, I just don't look at this team

1379
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: and think they're not talented. They're clearly talented well and

1380
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 1: I think Dat's played played well. But this is a

1381
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: tough spot, you know. I think the Bears defense is

1382
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: good enough to hold them down. I've been disappointed with

1383
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,560
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense the last couple of weeks. I know

1384
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: they've had It's been tough matchup. You had the weather

1385
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: in New England, but I just I didn't expect them

1386
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 1: to have I think they had six straight trips inside

1387
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 1: Bill's territory where they didn't score a point. I mean that,

1388
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 1: by the way, wit And is killing them. I know

1389
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: we gave him creditor in the year, and he's killing

1390
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: them right now. It's a It's a pretty fascinating six

1391
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 1: and six versus six and six game, as as that

1392
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: type of matchup goes. There's a lot at stake here

1393
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: that three and will start whipping up on the Giants, Redskins,

1394
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: and Dolphins. Right there are other wins Eagles, Giants again, Lions.

1395
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: Their losses they beat they lost to the Saints, Packers,

1396
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 1: the Jets, the Vikings, the Patriots, the Bills. They play

1397
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: playoff teams they lose, and I the one thing that

1398
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: they have going for him is that the Bears does

1399
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: deserve credit themselves for toilingly endlessly in that world called mediocre.

1400
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: So I think it's just two relatively overall. I don't

1401
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: care what the talent on the roster. That's on Garrett

1402
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 1: for not coaching up the talent. Mediocre teams squaring off

1403
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: two days from now, these are the These are the

1404
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 1: teams I mark, knowing you that you they're on your

1405
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: radar when we get to December, and teams that are

1406
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: hanging around but they have no business being spoken of

1407
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: as a Super Bowl contender. They just need to be

1408
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: sent to the wind. Well, I mean the Bears. The

1409
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: Bears were very nearly taken out by David Blow and

1410
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: the blow Hearts, and that would have been an awesome

1411
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day story. But let's calm down. I don't even

1412
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 1: I was like, what, I don't need to come down

1413
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: on David. Did you know that Marcus started a small

1414
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: fan club called the blow Hearts, Well, to me looks

1415
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 1: like a poor man. It was just kind of fun

1416
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: that you expected nothing and then there was a touchdown

1417
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: or two. I don't think the performance three or four

1418
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 1: throws that were like nobody, no defender was within ten

1419
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: yards of the receiver back. Well, the Blowhards are going

1420
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 1: to rage on. There is gonna be We're an issue

1421
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 1: one of four hundred and twenty six issues of the

1422
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 1: blow Hard Newsletter, which will you know this will go

1423
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: on for the next forty years. Wisky played a little

1424
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: better Anthony Miller a breakout games Montgomery game of the Year.

1425
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 1: Are we going to overreact to Trabisky too? No, I'm not.

1426
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 1: In fact, I think even if he plays better, I

1427
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 1: do think this is where this is where they take

1428
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: their dirt nap. Finally, the Bears, you're gonna lock him

1429
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: up again. I'm not going near the Cowboys. They are

1430
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: not on the road radio. I mean, this is a

1431
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 1: winnable game for Chicago too, But I I do think

1432
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys, let's do it. Well, you're hot.

1433
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: You know he's got four a row. Oh, I know

1434
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: you and I have the same record. Now you're coming

1435
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 1: after you've already caught me, and you're coming after the top.

1436
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: I'm I don't have any aspirations. We're taking this one week.

1437
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 1: Tro If he's sitting on your desk, or it was.

1438
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: At least we're taking this one week at a time. Um,

1439
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,719
Speaker 1: all right, Mark and I were gonna be uh handling

1440
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: handling the Thursday night football recap, the game we just previewed,

1441
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: and then you'll hear from the Gang of Four, your

1442
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: last one of the year. Did you know that we

1443
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: are wrapping it up West and I will take the

1444
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 1: next Thursday Night and that's it for TNF for this

1445
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 1: Jets Ravens get ready for a barn burner. That's what

1446
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: it is. I'm so thankful, really, I'm thankful ultimately for

1447
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 1: that meltdown in Cincinnati because I did not want to

1448
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: be in a situation where the Jets were seven and

1449
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: seven and I'm getting super amped for a Thursday night

1450
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 1: game in Baltimore. I don't need that. Have you noticed

1451
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 1: what's going on this week in Jets Country? I'm you know,

1452
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm typically plugged in, but what what do you I

1453
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: think leve Bell's camp, it is starting to leak word

1454
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: that he's just not being used right, and that's been

1455
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: the problem all year. Like you're starting to see all

1456
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 1: these all these articles are popping up that leve Bell

1457
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 1: is just used irresponsibly by the head coach. It was

1458
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 1: definitely maybe it's from his camp. It was definitely the

1459
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 1: beat writer's radar immediately because he got ten carries in

1460
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,719
Speaker 1: a game against the worst run defense in the league.

1461
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: But I mean, who cares. We'll talk about the Jetson

1462
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 1: would start his own newsletter with Kenyan Drake David Johnson.

1463
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: He's just not on the team anymore. Really, what's up

1464
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 1: with that? Let's save that for Thursday too. Got a

1465
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,719
Speaker 1: lot to talk about still, and we're not gonna speak

1466
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 1: between now and we don't do that anymore because why

1467
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: Ricky didn't do it? Dan hands a signing off for

1468
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, the mail Man, the old Boss, Ricky, I

1469
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,799
Speaker 1: didn't do it. Holiday behind the Tail Thursday