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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fitness Disrupted, a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: I am Tom Holland and this is Fitness Disrupted. At

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Speaker 1: the end of every show, say, there are three things

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Speaker 1: we control on which we move, what we put into

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Speaker 1: our mouths, and our attitudes, which goes to our state

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Speaker 1: of mind. And if we're actually thinking about what is

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Speaker 1: the ultimate goal of those three right, what's what's the

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Speaker 1: be all end? Or why are we why are you

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Speaker 1: listening to this show? Well? Those things right, But what

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Speaker 1: is the most important thing if if we're just cut

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Speaker 1: into the chase? Number one reason we should be doing

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Speaker 1: everything we know, We should be everything I talked about

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Speaker 1: here in the show. It's to not die, right. I

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Speaker 1: mean obviously oversimplifying if you will, but is it? You know,

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Speaker 1: I love fitness in so many ways. It also frustrates

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Speaker 1: me in so many ways. And you hear that. And

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Speaker 1: I love reading now that there's so many people love

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Speaker 1: when I get worked up and I do, and to

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Speaker 1: think now that we are living through what we are

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Speaker 1: and and my career at this point at fifty two,

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Speaker 1: having done it all, I mean, pick something in the

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Speaker 1: fitness industry and asked me, you know, have I yes,

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Speaker 1: I've seen it, done it, experienced it. I tell that

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Speaker 1: to clients when I do consultation. There's nothing they could

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Speaker 1: say or do that I most likely not only haven't

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Speaker 1: seen or heard before, but in crazier and more extreme ways.

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Speaker 1: And so to have a pandemic a pandemic and I'm

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Speaker 1: not towards the end of my career, my career, I

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Speaker 1: could be doing this for fifty plus more years, but

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Speaker 1: at this point in my career it is truly amazing

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Speaker 1: to me. It really is. And it plays into so

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Speaker 1: many problems we have in our approach to exercise and nutrition,

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Speaker 1: and it's a it's a really tricky topic. It shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be helping people to not die, but it's tied up

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Speaker 1: in political correctness. Now there's so many other factors that

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be in the discussion that are and they're commingled

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Speaker 1: and they shouldn't be because they're literally killing people. And

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Speaker 1: I try to avoid all of those issues where people

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Speaker 1: can get offended. I try. I try to. It's pretty

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Speaker 1: easy to do. But here's where it gets really tricky

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Speaker 1: is we're living in a pandemic, through a pandemic right now,

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Speaker 1: hopefully coming to the end. As I record this podcast.

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Speaker 1: But I can't tell you how many times I said

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Speaker 1: to my kids months ago, it's gonna be over master

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Speaker 1: gonna be and it wasn't, and I was blown a way.

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Speaker 1: So today I'm gonna bring you some some numbers. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I didn't think i'd get this worked up this quickly.

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Speaker 1: And it's the science behind the COVID odds. This is

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Speaker 1: not a show about vaccinations. This is not a show

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Speaker 1: about masks. This is a show about not dying. This

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Speaker 1: will always be a show about not dying. Not a

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Speaker 1: political show. It's not a political show. Choosing my words carefully,

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Speaker 1: if you haven't noticed, it's about that's that's all I want.

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Speaker 1: I don't have political discussions with people, and it's not

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Speaker 1: what I want to spend my life talking about. I

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Speaker 1: want to enjoy life. And if you enjoy like I'm

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Speaker 1: going off on a tangent, you know my point. Life

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Speaker 1: is short, but it could be really long and really

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Speaker 1: good if we follow the science and we do what

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Speaker 1: we need to do. And I get really frustrated when

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Speaker 1: it gets that's the word I'm looking for. Uh, When

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Speaker 1: it gets something, When it gets complicated when it shouldn't be,

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Speaker 1: when it gets political, when it shouldn't be when we

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Speaker 1: have experts quote unquote experts in the fitness world, the

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Speaker 1: nutrition world who are not only keeping you from living

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Speaker 1: your best life, there potentially shortening it. Let's cut to

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Speaker 1: the chase again and at a time where everyone's screaming,

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Speaker 1: look at the science, look at the science, Look at

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Speaker 1: the science. I've been screaming after thirty somebody years and

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Speaker 1: I've been looking at it and learning more and I

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Speaker 1: never stopped learning. And he has science changes. Yes you

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Speaker 1: can eat eggs, No you can't eat eggs. There's flaws

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Speaker 1: in the research. That's why I'll look at it for you.

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Speaker 1: And I, by no means an expert at looking at

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Speaker 1: the research. But pretty good. And so today's about the

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Speaker 1: science behind the COVID odds because I read just a

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Speaker 1: phenomenal article and I'm gonna deviate from the norm. I

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Speaker 1: think I've only done this once in the past. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna read you the whole article because it's so good.

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Speaker 1: But what is it based on? It's based on research, people,

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Speaker 1: I guess what. Let me just when this is behind us,

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Speaker 1: this COVID thing behind us, mark my words, gonna say

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Speaker 1: it right here, Like the stuff I've been talking about

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Speaker 1: many people who have been doing this for a really

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Speaker 1: people will start to backtrack and say, yeah, we knew that. No,

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Speaker 1: but there's a study that came out a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago by the CDC Risk Factors for Severe COVID

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Speaker 1: completed a primary COVID vaccination series four sixty five healthcare facilities,

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Speaker 1: United States, December twenty through October. So they looked at

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Speaker 1: vaccinated people and again this shows it's not about vaccination.

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Speaker 1: You can actually pull it out, and I will, because

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Speaker 1: vaccines didn't keep us from catching it, but it did

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Speaker 1: keep us many people from getting really sick. But what

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Speaker 1: does that tell you? What should that tell us that

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Speaker 1: even that medicine as important as it is for so

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Speaker 1: many people, when I give you the stats from the study,

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Speaker 1: it can only help so much. And so we need

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Speaker 1: to control the things we can, and we need to

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Speaker 1: talk about the science quick break. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna equate this approach the vaccines, the mass and

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Speaker 1: everything to how the fitness industry and nutrition industry in general.

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Speaker 1: That's the approach, and I'll explain why and why it's flawed.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll be right back, all right, talking about

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Speaker 1: a recent study that looked at the numbers, and the

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Speaker 1: numbers are, of course coming out slowly, but we've had

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Speaker 1: a lot. And this is where people. It goes to

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Speaker 1: common sense, It does go to evolution, It goes to

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Speaker 1: so many things. And you know, as these words come

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Speaker 1: measured as possible, and I'm just I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: have to, you know, give, I'm not giving my opinion.

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Speaker 1: I'm just giving you the research and my experience and

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Speaker 1: then common sense. All right, but but let's give the

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Speaker 1: numbers first and foremost. But let me just as I

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Speaker 1: was preparing the show and reading this article and whatever,

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Speaker 1: I said, you know what, let's let's think about what

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Speaker 1: the approach has been. So you got a vaccine important

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Speaker 1: for many people. Don't want to have that debate. But

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Speaker 1: that takes ten seconds, get your shot, You're done, put

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Speaker 1: on a mask. That's not a lot of effort. Fine, done.

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Speaker 1: Those are quick fixes. Some of them are really important

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Speaker 1: for certain populations. Totally get it. But just like I

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Speaker 1: it actually illuminates that even all those who are vaccinated

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Speaker 1: So when this is all said and done and the

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Speaker 1: they could control. That's what it keeps coming down to people.

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Speaker 1: That's why I keep bringing you the science about control.

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Speaker 1: That's why I end the show with that. That's why

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Speaker 1: I started my most recent book saying, if you don't

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Speaker 1: believe you have control, stop reading. Stop reading. No reason

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Speaker 1: for you to read this book. But we do in

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Speaker 1: so many more ways. Exercise and good eating is so

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Speaker 1: much more powerful than you here pretty much anywhere but

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Speaker 1: here and in a couple other places. The myriad benefits.

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Speaker 1: How it's not just seeing results, it's being healthy so

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Speaker 1: that yes, when a pandemic comes, you don't die. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's what it comes down to. Evolution and you know,

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Speaker 1: natural selection. That should be the ultimate goal of why

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Speaker 1: it under Standing the COVID Odds, and the subtitle is

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Speaker 1: if you've been vaccinated and still feel mortally threatened by

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Speaker 1: the virus, please read this. And again, this is not

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Speaker 1: It's obviously not easy to give up fear of COVID nineteen,

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Speaker 1: certain people are so worried and I'm changing a word,

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Speaker 1: they're just to keep it, keep it simple, that they

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Speaker 1: want to make it a legal for the unvaccinated to

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Speaker 1: leave home. But before you down another mask or disinfect

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Speaker 1: That's what we're listening to. Published by the Centers for

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Speaker 1: one in one fifty thousand. All deaths matter. We're all

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Speaker 1: article continues. Those are roughly the same odds that in

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Speaker 1: a pedestrian casualty. The one fifty thousand to one odds

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