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Today, I sit down one on one 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: with Giants quarterback Daniel Jones, Bob Papa with the head 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: coach of the Giants, Brian Davil, and of course lands 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: Medal and Polatino do their game preview with Dave Wyman, 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: who covers the Seahawks. He's their radio analyst. 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We're gonna lead 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: off with my one on one interview with the Giants 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: starting quarterback Daniel Jones. Daniel, how are you man? Do well? John? 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: How are you doing? It's always good to talk to you. 23 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: We always talk postgame. Now we get talked pre game 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: for once, Gihnt Straight Kit Aris Tony this week. It's 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: kind of a continuation of a churn that you've had 26 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: in this wide receiver room since the summer. Guys getting hurt, 27 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: coming back, new guys coming in. What's been your process? 28 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: Trying to integrate a lot of these new guys into 29 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: the system, get chemistry with them to really keep it going. 30 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: Even though I think you know, four or five straight weeks, 31 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: different guy leads the unit and snap gowns there are 32 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: different guys in different spots. How have you managed all 33 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: the change? Well, I mean, I think it starts with 34 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: those guys. I think those guys have done a really 35 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: good job coming in, knowing what to do, being on 36 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: the same page, executing, being where they're supposed to be, 37 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: running good routes, getting open. So uh, you know, I 38 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: don't that certainly won't won't change now. And I got 39 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: a lot of trust and faith and and uh and 40 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: those guys in those spots. Do you you have a pros 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: us with your receivers each weekend? ELI used to have 42 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: I think either a Thursday Friday wide receiver meeting. Is 43 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: there something you do with that group and even your 44 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: tight ends and backs to make sure you guys are 45 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: on the same page each week? Um. I think it's 46 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: continuous throughout the week. UM. I think we're always talking 47 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: through meetings and UM, you know, obviously the coaches talking 48 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: a lot, but whenever there's a point to make or 49 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: something to get on the same page with, we we uh, 50 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: we certainly do that. And then through walkthroughs, and then 51 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: you know, time after practice getting certain routes and making 52 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: sure you've got everything repped and you feel good about 53 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: everything going into the week. So I think it's a continuous, 54 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: continuous process we're always working through. I want to dig 55 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: into some details, but I'll start the line of questioning 56 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 1: here with something very broad, because you've been here for 57 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: some losing seasons, but this year, year six and one, 58 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: you're inside this, you're seeing it closer up than anybody 59 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: from the outside. What's the difference in your opinion from 60 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: what's happened in years past, what's happening today? Why is 61 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: this team different. I don't know. I mean I think, um, 62 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 1: you know, these games are all so close. I think 63 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: you know it didn't I think you learned. I learned 64 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: that early in in my time, you know, playing in 65 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: the NFL, that there's there's such little separation between winning 66 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: and losing and the margin of air. Uh you know 67 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: it's so so small. So um, you know, it's it's 68 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: about who can perform well waiting latent games, who can 69 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: uh compete throughout the end of the game and take 70 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: advantage of that opportunity or make that well, you know, 71 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: one more play when it counts at the end. So uh, 72 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: we've been able to do that, uh, you know, pretty 73 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: well through this first first part of the season. But um, 74 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, at the same time, you know, you look 75 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: at it and you understand how much more you know, 76 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: there still is out there for us, how much better 77 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: we can still get and and uh that's what we're 78 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: focused on focused on improving going forward. Is there a 79 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: secret sauce to to winning close games? And you know, 80 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: I think you guys are plus almost forty points in 81 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter this year to playing your best football 82 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Yeah, I don't think there's a 83 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: secret sauce. I don't think there's a you know, I 84 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: don't think there's one thing that's different or uh, you know, 85 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: a quick you know fix, or a certain thing you 86 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: gotta do. I think it's just about uh, everybody doing 87 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: their job and a bunch of little little details to 88 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: each play that that you know, ultimately add up to 89 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: um to making the difference at the end. And we 90 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: found ways to do that. You know. It's funny. And 91 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: you know, you think fourth quarter comebacks and your team, 92 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: I think is tied in the NFL league and fourth 93 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: quarter comebacks this year. You always think throwing the ball 94 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: that right, you down, you gotta throw the ball, you 95 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: gotta go fast. But your comebacks have had a lot 96 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: to do with the run game right, and you guys 97 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: have stayed patient, you stayed with the game plan. It 98 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: just seems very unique. Can you talk about just how 99 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: you guys have maintained your patients in these fourth quarters 100 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: even though you're down sometimes two scores to start the quarter, 101 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: but you're not getting out of character to try to 102 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: come back and win these games. Yeah, I think that's 103 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: part of it. I think we you know, we got 104 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: a group that's poised and and keeps you know, keeps 105 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: their composure late in the games, and you know, no 106 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: one feels like they need to do anything um, you know, 107 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: unbelievable ball or out of there, um out of their 108 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: job or out of their role. With you know, you 109 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: do your job, you stay within your role. The explosive 110 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: plays happen, the you know will break a run or 111 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: explosive past play or um. You know, you find ways 112 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: to make plays when everyone does their jobs. So I 113 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: think that's kind of been the mindset we've approached it with. 114 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: And uh, we've found different ways to do it, different 115 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: ways to um, you know, move the ball down the 116 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: field and score late in games, but you know, trusting, 117 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: trusting each other to do each other's job, you know. 118 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: I think that's decision making from all the players right 119 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: and and for you specifically, because you have the ball 120 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: in your hand and every play. And Brian Dables talked 121 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: a lot this year about your decision making. That something 122 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: you've talked about a lot. Where have you seen the 123 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: progress in your decision making this year? Have you seen 124 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: a big change? Have you taken a different approach in 125 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: terms of making better and quicker decisions on a more 126 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: consistent basis. Um, I don't think my approach has necessarily changed. 127 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: I think I'm you know, you get better at it. 128 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: The more you do anything, the better you get at it. 129 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: And I think I've I've gotten better gotten uh you know, 130 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: seeing things quicker and making quicker decisions. I think that's 131 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, ultimately, the challenge of playing the position is 132 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: how quickly can you make the right decision and get 133 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: the ball out of your hands? So, um, you know, 134 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: that's what I've been focused on doing. And uh, you know, 135 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: maybe it's not the perfect decision every every every time, 136 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,119 Speaker 1: but uh, you know, making a quick decision, uh getting 137 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: the ball out, you know, if you gotta extend to play, 138 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: if you gotta get out of the pocket doing that. Also, 139 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: I think you just hit there and this way I 140 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: want to follow up. You talked about getting the ball 141 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: out of your hand. But I think a lot of 142 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: the times, at least on the outside looking in, it 143 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: looks like you've made some decisions sometimes to run a 144 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: little bit quicker than you have in years past, and 145 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: maybe not eGain sometimes to buy time. You just run. 146 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: Like there was the third and four in the first 147 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: half against the Jaguars, last week where there was pressure, 148 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: you stepped up in the pocket ran for twelve yards 149 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: up the middle for the first down. Is that something 150 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: that you consciously have have done to maybe make that 151 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: decision to run a little bit quicker because you know 152 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: you can get the yards for the first down and 153 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: not weighing that extra two or three seconds for a 154 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: receiver open up downfield. Yeah, I mean, I think it 155 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: depends on the situation, and you know, you want to 156 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: know what coverage, your plan and how they're UH playing you. 157 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: You know, they have a lot of eyes on you, 158 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: or they people sitting at the sticks, or there's an 159 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: opportunity to get out of pocket and and go. But yeah, 160 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think whether you're uh, whether you're getting 161 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: out getting the ball out of your hands with a checkdown, 162 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: or whether you're UM turn and running. I think you know, 163 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: it's similar to make a decision and go with it 164 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: and trust that decision UM and then make it work. 165 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be the perfect decision every time. You know, 166 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: we talked about discipline with the game plan the fourth 167 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: quarter for these comebacks, and I think discipline with you 168 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: right because I'm sure deep down inside you want to 169 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: throw that big twenty yard ball down field, make a 170 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: big play, you open the offense, throw it over the yard. 171 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: But you really maintained I think your discipline and taking 172 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: what's there. Is that a difficult thing for a quarterback 173 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: to do, where you know, inside you want to go 174 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: make that big play, but you know maybe that's not 175 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: the best thing for the team. How have you stayed 176 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: so disciplined in what they're trying to ask you to 177 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: do every game in these in these game plans. Yeah, 178 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's it's about that, is staying 179 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: staying discipline, taking what what's there. You know, when the 180 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: shots there, When when it's open and when we got 181 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: a chance to do it, you know you rip it 182 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: and cut it loose. But when it's not, you gotta, uh, 183 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta stay discipline to that. If you 184 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: gotta check the ball down, if you gotta uh throw 185 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: it to you know, throw a swing to say Quon, 186 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: that's that's a good play for us too. He can 187 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: break a tackle and turns into explosive play. So, um, whatever, 188 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: whatever the decision is, just staying discipline to it and 189 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: when the shots there taking if not, um, you know, 190 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: make a good decision. To move on. Is that one 191 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: of the things that you figure out over time with 192 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: the additional reps like you talked about in the previous answer. 193 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: I think so, Yeah, I think you get better at 194 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: that process. You know, it's certainly something I've tried to 195 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: do uh in the past, but you get better at it. 196 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: One thing you talked about too this year. I think 197 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: in some of your answers to these questions, you talk 198 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: about always having options in this offense. This option, This 199 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: offense gives you a lot of options, and you always 200 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 1: have answers for what the defense is showing you. I 201 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: kind of to get inside that a little bit. Are 202 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: you're talking more when you get to the line of 203 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: scrimmage and you can change to a play. Is it 204 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: once you snap it and then the defense identifies what 205 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: it's doing, then you guys can adjust during the play. 206 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: When you say you always have a good option of 207 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: of how to beat with the other team showing you, 208 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: can you just talk about what you mean by that, Yeah, 209 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: I think it's both. I think you know, sometimes it's 210 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: pre snap as certain look and um, you're changing a 211 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: route or you're you're checking something or um. You know, 212 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: there's communication between myself and receivers to get in the 213 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: best look. And then there's, uh, you know, part of 214 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: that that happens after the snap, and you know, being 215 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: on the same page with guys, knowing how they're gonna 216 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: see certain coverages, how they're gonna uncover, how they're gonna, 217 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: uh you know, make the break to the top of routes. 218 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: I think, Um, yeah, I think you know, pre impost snap, 219 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of options. You know. One thing you 220 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: know quarterbacks have said to me before is that the 221 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: best offenses are the ones that make things a little 222 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: bit easier for the quarterbacks in terms of making those 223 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: decisions and taking the options that allow you to have 224 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: success full place. What is it about this offense that 225 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: lends itself to giving you those options that you can 226 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: take so a play can be successful even though when 227 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: it's called based on the defense, maybe it shouldn't work, 228 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: but there are ways out of it to make it work. 229 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: Um well, I mean, I think it only works if 230 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: if you're on the same page with guys. It only 231 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: works if everyone understands and has an idea. Um, you 232 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen before it happens. Um, you know, 233 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: if when they're expecting a check or they're expecting a 234 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: certain route. Um, you know, that's when people are able 235 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: to understand it, you know, an execute play fast and 236 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: and have success with it. So I think it starts 237 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: there with preparation and and uh, I think we're prepared 238 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: to to do all those different things which make it, 239 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: you know, a lot easier on the quarterback once we 240 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: get out there. We talked about explosive plays. Right now, 241 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: you guys have seven past plays of twenty plus rs. 242 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure if I told you before the year that 243 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: this week that would be a number of explosive passes 244 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: would be like, boy, I wish it was more. I 245 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: wish you'd be doing better. Yet you're six and one. 246 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: The offense is moving up in down the field. You're 247 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: making plays when you have to. Why has this team 248 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: been able to be so successful offensively without getting those 249 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: explosive chunk plays through the air. Um, yeah, I mean 250 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: I think, Um, you know, we've we've found ways to 251 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: sustain drives and uh, move the ball, execute consistently, uh 252 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: while we move the ball down the field and and uh, 253 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: you know, found ways to punch it in so we're 254 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: running the ball well. Um, you know, doing some good 255 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: things in the past game too, So we've got guys 256 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: who who execute well consistently. Yeah. Do you feel like 257 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: your past games hitting it stride a little bit? I still, 258 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: especially in the first half against Jacksonville, the run game 259 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: in the first half didn't work that well. I think 260 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: you threw almost twice as many passes as you did 261 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: call run plays. Uh, and you scored thirteen points in 262 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: that first steff against the Jaguars with Wandel back. Do 263 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: you feel that your passing game is really starting to 264 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: hit it stride now? I think we've improved. I think 265 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, there's still a lot of work to do 266 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: for us, um, you know, and we'll continue to do that, 267 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: but um, yeah, I think we're getting better every week. 268 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 1: You talk about the run game has successful, it's been. 269 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: We talked about you scrambling with your legs, right. How 270 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: about you're the part of the game where it's designed 271 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: runs for you. Has that really been a successful foil 272 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: to the opponent? Focusing on se Kwan, you know you 273 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: with the deep shot to slate in one of those 274 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: shot plays in the first half of the game against Jaguars, 275 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: That's how you backed the safeties off right. But another 276 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: way you can do it to stop teams from focusing 277 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: too much on se Kuan is that if you're a 278 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: threat of keeping it on you know, boots or read 279 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: options or whatever. Have you found that your threat there 280 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: has helped that run game be productive overall because you 281 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: can be that counter threat to Barkley. Uh yeah, I 282 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: mean I think so. I think he attracts a lot 283 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: of attention and and rightfully so, Um, you know, teams 284 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: are you know, they want to stop him. That's there, 285 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: That's probably the first thing on their list each week 286 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: is to stop se Kwon Barkley. So, um, there's things 287 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: that come off of that, whether it's opportunities for me 288 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: to run or um, you know, play action shots and 289 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: and things like that. But um, yeah, I think that 290 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: that certainly helps us. But starts starts with the guys 291 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: up front. They're doing a great job, and then sick 292 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: one is doing a good job running. Um, you had 293 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: a couple, I think two in each of the last 294 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: two games drives where he had two thirds and nines 295 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: or more that you guys converted into first downs and 296 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: those drives eventually wound up in touchdowns. How have you 297 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: been able to convert some of those starting long because 298 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: those are really difficult to do against these defense when 299 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: they're set up for those plays. What's working that you 300 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: guys have been able to convert some of those starting lungs. Um, Well, 301 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: I mean I think, uh, you know, one, the protection 302 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: starts with the protection when whenever you're in those long 303 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: during long situations, defense knows you're throwing it, and uh, 304 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, you get their best pass rush. So we've 305 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: done a good job protecting, um, you know in those situations. 306 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: And then guys, Uh, guys have done a good job 307 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: getting open down the field, um and uh and making plays. 308 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: So uh, we'll continue to do that and continue to 309 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: see how we can improve those situations. Final question in 310 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: the offense, just one on the opponent. You know people 311 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: talk out offense is being connected, right, like one play 312 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: working off another or one place setting up a play action. Um, 313 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: different formations plays look the same, but the play itself 314 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: is actually different. Do you feel that connectivity in this 315 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: offense where you're showing stuff but the opponent maybe doesn't 316 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: know what you're doing. Because so many of the plays 317 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: look the same at least when they begin, but in 318 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: the end they're actually pretty different. I think. So, yeah, 319 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: I think we do a good job with that kind 320 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: of stuff and scheming it up to where the defense 321 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: is expecting one thing because they've seen it either earlier 322 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: in the game or or on film or um, you know, 323 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: whatever the situation is, and then having something having something 324 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: off of that. So I think that, you know, that's 325 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: certainly something that that every team in the league tries 326 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: to do is is uh, you know, make certain looks 327 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: look the same and then do different things off of it. 328 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: But I think we've done a good job doing it, 329 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: and that is that part of your plan every week, 330 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: will you show with teams something in the first half, 331 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: trying to set up something you know you're gonna go 332 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: going to go back to later. Uh, I mean it 333 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: could be not not necessarily, I think, um, you know, 334 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: I think that, uh, you know, we've done that. I 335 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: think you know, all teams try to do that to 336 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: some extent um, but whether it's on film, whether it's 337 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: from a previous game, or whether it's just a look 338 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: that you know would would uh in most situations indicate 339 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: something and trying to do something else off of it. 340 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I think we've been We've done a 341 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: good job doing that, all right. Final question, what's uh 342 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: the challenge of the Seahawks defense this week coming up? Uh, yeah, 343 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: they're good defense. Um you know you you got a 344 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: good front who's affected the effect of the quarterback in 345 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: the past game. And uh, good dbs. I got some 346 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: young dbs that are that are playing really well at 347 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: a high level. So uh we'll have to be ready 348 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: for that. And then you know, just going into a 349 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: hostile environment and uh Seattle, you hear so much about 350 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: the noise and and having to deal with that. So 351 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: uh we've certainly been practicing and uh you don't think 352 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: we're prepared for it, but um, all those things will 353 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: will certainly impact the game. Daniel, good stuff. Appreciate Tom 354 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: a man, Thank you, John. Giant fans don't miss Giants 355 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: football and MetLife Stadium. Limited tickets are available for all 356 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: remaining home games, including a matchup with the hated Philadelphia 357 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: Eagles in December. Visit Giants dot com slash tickets to 358 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: find your game this season and secure your seat. We 359 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: thank Giants quarterback Daniel Jones are being very generous with 360 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: this time, uh this week for us on the Giant 361 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: huttle podcast. I hope you learned something. I think I 362 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: got some insight, tried to get in depth on this 363 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: process and the offense, and I think we did all right. 364 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: Let's get to the game. This week, Giant travel to 365 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: Seattle to take on the Seahawks, one of the most 366 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: difficult places to play a game. Lance and Paul a 367 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: chance to talk to Dave Wyman, he's their radio analyst, 368 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: and they broke down the Seahawks. Let's listen in two 369 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: of the surprise teams in the NFC square off in 370 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: the Emerald City as the six and one Giants visit 371 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: the four and three Seahawks at lumin Field on Sunday. 372 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: To get more into this matchup and break down what 373 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: to expect from Seattle, were now joined by former NFL 374 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: linebacker for the Seahawks and the Broncos who serves as 375 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: the color analyst on the Seahawks radio network, none other 376 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: than Dave Winman. Davy Got, Lance Meddle and Paul the 377 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: Tino here on Giants dot Com. Greatly appreciate the time. 378 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: Hope Pole as well. Has everything on your own. Everything's great, 379 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: Lance and Paul and uh, yeah, as you mentioned, we've 380 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: got got an interesting team here, man, It's really been 381 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: fun to u to follow, And um, yes, uh, I 382 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: think I was the only one in Seattle that predicted 383 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: that they would be an above team. And my my 384 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: reason for that is just Pete and John. I mean 385 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll and John Schneider has been a great combination. 386 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: They got a great draft this year. So yeah, we'll 387 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: see what happens. Is going to be the biggest test 388 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: by far this weekend. Well, and I think Dave. Another 389 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: pleasant surprise has been the play of of course Geno Smith, 390 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: who leads the NFL and completion percentage and has been 391 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: pretty efficient. But I think what a lot of people 392 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: are maybe not talking about is the fact that he 393 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: was here last season and he was familiar with the 394 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: system that Shane Waldron had implemented. So how much do 395 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: you think this is a product of the carry over 396 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: that they started to build land a season when he 397 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: filled in for Russell Wilson. Yeah, I think I think 398 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: that's a huge part of it. Um, you know, it's 399 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: just weird, you know, football player, because like baseball players, 400 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: sometimes we had we had a relief pitcher here, Paul 401 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: c Walt, who I think was with the Mets at 402 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: one point. But you know, it finally clicked for him 403 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: when he was thirty years old. That doesn't happen in 404 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: the NFL and the NFL, man, it clicks for you. 405 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: For me, it was my second year, I was twenty 406 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: three years old, you know, and it usually doesn't happen. 407 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: But Gino is just, I mean, out of this world. 408 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he looked good last year, but I don't 409 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: think anybody could have predicted that he would have the 410 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: kind of season that he's having right now, and and 411 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: and the other thing. I would say, this is a 412 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: this is a Pete Carroll special right here in in 413 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: the works. Pete puts his confidence into a player and 414 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, pumps him off and gives him a good 415 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: run game, and you know, he just he just has 416 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: a way of getting the absolute best out of players. 417 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it goes back to when they traded for 418 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch. Nobody was going to touch Marshawn Lynch. Uh. 419 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: You know, when he was in Buffalo, lots of things 420 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: going on there with him, brought him and got the 421 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: best out of him. And then the players that leave 422 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, for example, don't tend to get better, so 423 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: you know it's not I mean, I know, sure made 424 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl with the forty nine is after he left. 425 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: But for the most part, I just think that Pete 426 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: Carroll has a lot to do with this. He's He's 427 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: just I think that's the best thing you can do 428 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: is the coaches get the very best out of your players, 429 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: and that's what he's getting right now with you know, well, 430 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: dave not to be disrespectful to coach Carroll because he's 431 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: gonna go into the Hall of Fame. I don't think 432 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: there's any doubt about that one day. But the Giants 433 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: right now have Wink Martindale, who has done a great 434 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: job with his defense and has certainly a well earned reputation. 435 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: So as you look at this matchup between Martin Dale's 436 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: kaleidoscope defense and the xs and ohs that that geno 437 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: Smith has to execute a especially without metcamp and and 438 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: Penny's been out for a bit, how do you how 439 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: do you see him being able to deal with Wink? Well, 440 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's why I said it's gonna be 441 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: the biggest chimp. I was just looking at the defense, 442 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: the Giant defense, and what is there like four first 443 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: rounders and three second rounders. I think there's a seventh 444 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: and a fourth in there, but man, I mean it's 445 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: just it just loaded. So yeah, it's gonna be every 446 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: week is a new test. I mean, we thought, you know, 447 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: we got two rookie tackles and they did. They've done 448 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: pretty well lately. I mean J. J. Watt and Marcus 449 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: Golden got one sack a couple of weeks ago. Khalil 450 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: mac didn't have any sacks last week. So if they 451 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: can sat do you know, which I think is gonna 452 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: be their toughest test yet. Then Yeah, I think he's 453 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: been making great decisions. Uh, he's you know, great audibles 454 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: things like that. Um that I feel like it's gonna 455 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: give the Seahawks a chance. Speaking of the offensive line, 456 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: and that obviously is a big reason why they've also 457 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: been running the football effectively, and Dave Paul referenced the 458 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: fact that Rashod Penny's out for the season with the 459 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: broken fibula, and now all of a sudden incomes second 460 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: round pick Kenneth Walker and the last two games he 461 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: certainly has transitioned very smoothly. What has impressed you the 462 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: most about Walker and why is it that you were 463 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: talking about? Pete Carroll gives confidence that Geno Smith I 464 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: feel like Dave. Every year the Seahawks, they deal with 465 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: some type of injury, as you can attest to in 466 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: the backfield, they plug in another guy and it seems 467 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: to be at least somewhat productive under those circumstances. Yeah, 468 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: it's kind of kind of like the And that's why 469 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 1: I admire the forty Niners run game, which is bottom 470 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: I think to me that they gave up draft capital 471 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: to get Christian McCaffrey. I mean, we'll see how they 472 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: use them, but they've always been able to just plug 473 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: a guy in um last year it was Elijah Mitchell, 474 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: who was the sixth round rookie. But you know, it's 475 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: kind of the same way here and Kenneth Walker, it is. 476 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: I think the thing that impresses me most about him 477 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: is his patients. You know, if you if you've watched 478 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: him run, there's a couple of times where you know 479 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: he'll stop and maybe try to cut back too much, 480 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: and he tries to be a little bit too fancy 481 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: instead of just hitting the gas. And now he's starting to, 482 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: you know, really read his blocks. Well, he had two 483 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: touchdowns last week. The first one was like a twelve 484 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: yard run and his patients letting the blocker set up, 485 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: you know, uh, which side to take, and and then 486 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: you know he he hit the gas on the on 487 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: the toss where it goes for seventy four yards and 488 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: so he started to figure it out. And you know, 489 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: I look, I don't expect much out of rookies having 490 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: played I mean my rookie year, I was totally lost. 491 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: So I mean there's gonna be setbacks and things like that. 492 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:54,719 Speaker 1: But so far, uh, ken Walker has looked really good. 493 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: So very happy about that, but really bummed about for 494 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: shop Penny because you know, he's the first round here. 495 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: He had a lot of pressure, a lot of people 496 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: are on him in Seattle. At the end of the 497 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: year last year he really figured it out. Adrian Peterson 498 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: came to town and I think kind of helped him 499 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: out and then he was he was off to the 500 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: races this year and then and then he gets the 501 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: the injury, so really sad for him. Penny also is 502 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: one of the nicer kids you ever want to meet. 503 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: We mentioned earlier about Medcalfee and Hurt, but Locket has 504 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: always been a very productive receiver. I don't know what 505 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: they expect to get out of the tight ends. It 506 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: looks like their numbers are are not exactly glowing off 507 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: the page, but we know they're talented. And Goodwin had 508 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: the two touchdown catches against the Chargers. How do you 509 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: see the the weaponry kind of shaking out against the Giants? 510 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: Who do you think they're going to try to favor 511 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: to get the ball too? Because I'm sure Dory Jackson 512 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: is probably gonna travel with Lockett all day. Yeah, yeah, 513 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: lock it. He is such a good receiver against his 514 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: own coverage. I mean I used to gift Man obviously, 515 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: but I mean he finds exact middle of his own 516 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: every almost every time. Um. But you know, I think 517 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: what the three tight ends like, they've only thrown it. 518 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: I want to say it's like sixteen now maybe twenty 519 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: times to Will Disley, but he's got nineteen catches. Here's 520 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: the thing that and and to me, it's more about 521 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: Gino than the receivers. I mean, I'm definitely surprised by 522 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: Marquise Goodwin and the game that he had, But do 523 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: you know had five incompletions in the first quarter against 524 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: the Chargers, and only two the rest of the way, second, third, 525 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: and fourth quarter had two incompletion. So he's just the 526 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: one thing he's doing. And I'm not gonna be one 527 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: of these guys that trashes Russell because Russ meant so 528 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: much to this team, but his last few years he 529 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: either couldn't or wouldn't find the checkdown and find, you know, 530 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: throw the short route. They have a bootleg that they 531 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: run a lot, you know, where there's a shallow guy, 532 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: an intermediate guy, and then a deep guy. And more 533 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: often than not, Gino has taken you know, the short 534 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: route or the the intermediate route, and you know, he 535 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: just hasn't been greedy. He's just been and that's why 536 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: he's got the highest completion percentage in the in the game. 537 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm loving the three tight end set that 538 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: they have um and I think Markue's good. Wouldn't can 539 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: fill in if Metcalts not available, But obviously you know 540 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: a player like Metcalf, he's just such a he's such 541 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: a good football player. Guys, he if you watch him 542 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: on run plays, he's a bully. Like I'm surprised he 543 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: doesn't get like more penalties because he will fill mess 544 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: with those dbs, and he can pretty much dominate most 545 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: of them physically. And uh yeah, so they're they're definitely 546 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: gonna miss him. But I just think in the passing game, 547 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: it's more about Gino. He is just making great decisions 548 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: and he's not getting greedy and he's not trying to 549 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: throw the ball deep every time. Metcalf size and frame 550 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: certainly doesn't hurt based on what he can do as 551 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: a receiver and a run blocker. As you mentions you're 552 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: talking with Dave Lyman, former NFL linebacker color analysts on 553 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: the Seahawks Radio network, Dave, you brought up the fact 554 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: that they're using a lot of three tight end sets, 555 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: and I want to piggyback off of that because it 556 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: seems as if maybe that's a reason why the offensive 557 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: line has been effective in run blocking as well as 558 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 1: in past protection. So what I'm getting at is, how 559 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: much do you think they're leaning more on the tight 560 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: ends to help facilitate some of the issues they've had, 561 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: at least coming into this season with that revamped offensive line. Yeah, absolutely, 562 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: you're on it. I mean, it's they and Coloby Parkinson, 563 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: who is I guess he would be their third tight end, 564 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: the kid out of Stanford. He has built himself into 565 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: just a monster. I mean he's six seven, he's put 566 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 1: on probably pounds and muscle, and he has become if 567 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: you look at the long run and a couple couple 568 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: of the other runs, he's had some really nice blocks. So, 569 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: and you're right, also they're helping with protection. You know 570 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: the first play that they ran first past play last week, 571 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: you know they doubled Khalil Mac and you know the 572 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: tight ends are chipping and staying in a lot, so 573 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: they're they're a big part of what they're doing. That 574 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: personnel with one back and three tight ends is shown 575 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: up a lot. It was on both of the ken 576 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: Walker touchdown runs, and they've gotten to be Will definitely 577 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: has always been a good blocker. I thought so sure 578 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: about Noah Fanse. But Noah who was part of the 579 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: trade with UH for for Russell Wilson, he catches a 580 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: lot of pathses, he gets targeted quite a bit. So yeah, 581 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: I think those three guys are are really interesting players. 582 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: If you have a good tight end who can block 583 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: and catch it. Just you know, we haven't had anybody 584 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: around here like that since Zach Miller and that was 585 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: back when Russ was a rookie. So, um, yeah, they 586 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: to finally have that, and I think will dis leave 587 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: is kind of the you know, he's the leader of 588 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: the pack. But but the other two guys, it looked 589 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: really good and they and they can they can block. 590 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: They're very they're at least very willing blockers. We had 591 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham here for a while, great pass catcher, but 592 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 1: that dude just did not want to block and he 593 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: wasn't good at it and he didn't try. So um, 594 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: you know that That's the thing that I look for 595 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 1: on tight ends is are are they Are they willing? 596 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: And that's that these guys definitely. Pat mccerrison, the fight 597 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: end coach, has done a great job with them. Dave, 598 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you about one thing that's sticking out 599 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: on defense, and that's this rookie at Tarik Woolen, who 600 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: has already got four deceptions. A scout said to me, 601 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: he's got tremendous speed and quickness, he has length. He's 602 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: a converted receiver, so he's got really good ball skills 603 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: and my goodness, it looks like right now he's he's 604 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: been a real thorn in some people's sides, at least 605 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball when they try 606 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: to throw against him. Yeah, it's it's it's unbelievable. And again, 607 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, me being the old NFL guy, I just 608 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: I don't expect much out of rookies. And by the way, 609 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: the four rookies that are playing the past, I think 610 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: play the hardest positions next to quarterback, the two offensive tackles. 611 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're facing J. J. Watt, Khalil Mack 612 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: back to back. But then you know, covering receivers in 613 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: the league, it's it's incredibly hard. And you know, not 614 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: only has he been really good with his hands catching 615 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: the ball, and he's catching balls. That's what I always 616 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: say about defensive backs or corners. The quarterbacks not thrown 617 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: it to him. You know, they have to they have 618 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: to get themselves in position, and then he's running right 619 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: with him. He hasn't taken a lot of chances. Heet 620 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: mentioned that decent old DV coach at heart, and the 621 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: one thing he said about Wall it is it's not 622 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: like he's jumping things or playing hunches or anything. Just 623 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: really tight coverage, you know, and as speed and I 624 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: know Pete loves that, you know style of like Brandon Browner, 625 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman. And by the way, Dreke was interviewed the 626 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: other day and asked about comparisons to Richard Sherman and 627 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: he said, you know, I just want to be Tourike 628 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: Will and so I really loved that response. And he's 629 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: really a laid back kid. And and you know, something 630 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: interesting happened after the Arizona game. They were down on 631 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: the field, he was being interviewed, and I think it 632 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: was Buda Baker and one of their other really good 633 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: dvs that came over to him and we're talking to him, 634 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: like you could tell they didn't know him, but they 635 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: just kind of wanted to meet him, like they've been 636 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: watching him on film and they you know, they came 637 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: over and our our sideline reporters said they were like, hey, Rook, 638 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: keeps it up, man, You're you're doing great and just 639 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: encouraging him. So I think, you know, everybody around the 640 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: league is seeing the film on Tariq wool And and 641 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant too. He's of the other guy who's got 642 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: four punchouts. Those two guys account for I think eight 643 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: of their eleven or twelve takeaways, So and you got 644 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: to be confident to get takeaways because you know, usually rookie, 645 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,239 Speaker 1: you're rookie year, you're just hanging on trying to do 646 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: coverage properly and things like that. So yeah, it's pretty 647 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: pretty amazing. And I'd say, you know, I was asked 648 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: the other day, what's what's the biggest surprise about this team? 649 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: Is that Geno? Is that the rookies? I think to 650 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: me it was just three one three one has just 651 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: been uh incredible because it's a really laid back kid. It's, uh, 652 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: he's really fun to watch him. Yeah, there's no doubt 653 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: about it. To your point, Kobe Bryant, Tourek Willin have 654 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: been extremely opportunistic, and that leads me to dave the 655 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: defense overall, because you look at the statistical numbers, and 656 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: if you didn't watch any Seahawks games, you'd say, Okay, 657 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: they're twenty ninth in total defense, they're tied for twenty 658 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: points per game allowed, their thirty against the run. How 659 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: the heck is this team four and three? But then 660 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: you look at Arizona the Cardinals. There long touchdown was 661 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: on a fumble recovery. So the defense didn't really give 662 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: up any points, and then they had a respectable game, 663 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: I would say, against the Chargers. So how much have 664 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: the last two games, in your estimation days maybe been 665 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: a sign of this unit actually turning the corner where 666 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: those opportunistic plays are starting to reflect on the production 667 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: overall of this group. Yeah, well you're on atlant I 668 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: mean the last two games, and here's what I would say, 669 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: because they have been just bleeding yardage. I mean, just 670 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: very unsure. I feel like the defense was just kind 671 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: of reading the blocks up front and and I think, 672 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: you know, pass coverage. Yeah, there was definitely leaky yardage, 673 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: but the biggest problem I thought was the run yardage. 674 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,479 Speaker 1: So if you were if you were to ask me man, 675 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: I would say this, I'm not in the meetings, I 676 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I don't know exactly what their 677 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: terminology is and all that. But if you ask me 678 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: the last two weeks, I would say, the front seven 679 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: knows what gap they have before the ball stops. That's 680 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: what it looks like to me. They're attacking gaps. And 681 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: that's the way I remember playing, and I do remember 682 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: playing in a in a kind of a read defense 683 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: that we ended up scrapping one year, it was and 684 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: I got benched because I wasn't. I didn't it didn't 685 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: make sense to me and I was playing terrible and 686 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: it just didn't so we we scrapped the defense and 687 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: went back to just a single gap type of things. 688 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, as a linebacker, before the 689 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: play starts, I know I have the A gap. I 690 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: think the weeks before that it was like, Okay, I'm 691 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: gonna read this and if the guard does this, and 692 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna go to the B gap. And you know, 693 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: they had their offensive or defensive lineman two gappings, so 694 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: you know you're taking both sides and then the linebacker 695 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: doesn't know what side to take, so that you know, 696 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: by the time they were taken on blocks, the offensive 697 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: line was like four yards downfield. So I think that's 698 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: the big differences that their front seven. Um. I feel 699 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: like the you know, the defensive backs have pretty much 700 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: played played pretty well, but it's been more about the 701 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: upfront stuff. And I think I think they've turned a 702 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: corner and I think they have the guys. I al 703 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: Woods is the big unsung hero on this defense. He's 704 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: just huge and uh he stopped Offstin Ekeler with his 705 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: right hand last week. So you know they're they're getting 706 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 1: those guys in positions and they're playing a defense now 707 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: that that these guys understand and they get because I 708 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: know better than anybody, if you're thinking and you're trying 709 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: to diagnose after the ball is snapped, it's just slows 710 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: you down. And I think that's that's been the big difference, Dave. 711 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: Speaking of the front seven, the other guy that I 712 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: think has really stepped up and has taken full advantage. 713 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: You could argue of probably a bigger role is Ucenna Owosu, 714 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: because when he was with the Chargers, this was a 715 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: guy that was really buried behind some other premier pass rushers, 716 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: including Joey Bosa. Now it seems as if he's got 717 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: a huge role with Seattle, and the numbers clearly a 718 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: jumping off the page. You are right, has three sacks. 719 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 1: How much is he provided a boost to a pass 720 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: rushing unit which didn't have overwhelming numbers even if you 721 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: go back to last season. Yeah, he's been great, and 722 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: Wilson was. He's got a real edge to him. He's 723 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 1: got like an old school nastiness about him. That I love. Um, 724 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: you know, he he's mean. I like that he plays 725 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 1: mean and and uh yeah, and he's making plays as well. 726 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: And you're right, man Ingram. He was behind Melvin Ingram 727 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: and Joey boss Bosa and those guys both have like 728 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: fifty plus socks in their career, so he's finally getting 729 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: an opportunity. And uh and he had a little you 730 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: know edge last week playing against his former team. But um, 731 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: he's been a really good leader. I loved that about him. 732 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: There's a play My favorite play from this year was 733 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: when um, uh kid Trey Lance. Trey Lance got hurt 734 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: and they brought in Jimmy G and uh ou Chenna 735 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: was Russian and he just Jimmy G and Jimmy G 736 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: got up and was like complaining to the raff and 737 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: he started John at at Jimmy garoppolo. It was pretty 738 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: It was pretty awesome. I like that kind of player. 739 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 1: And you know, I think he has been a really 740 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: good leader for these guys and and playing well. Like 741 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,919 Speaker 1: you said is his numbers are great, There's no doubt 742 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: about it. Big reason why this is going to be 743 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: an intriguing matchup between the Seahawks and the Giants in 744 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: the Emerald City on Sunday. He is Dave Winman, former 745 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: NFL linebacker. You can hear him as the color analyst 746 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: on the Seahawks radio network. Dave greatly appreciate the time 747 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: of the insight, looking forward to the matchup and look 748 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: forward to also speaking today down the road. Great talking 749 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: to you guys. Thanks a lot, appreciate having me out. 750 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: The Giants official connected TV streaming app, Giants TV brings 751 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: official video content and game highlights on demand and director 752 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: Big Blue Fans. Giants TV is free on Apple TV, Roku, 753 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: and Amazon Fire TV and the Giants Mobile app. That 754 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: was Dave Lyman again. He's a radio analyst for the Seahawks. 755 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: Great deep in debt, look at that team and the 756 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: challenge that Giants will face on Sunday with him, Lance 757 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: Meadow and Paul to Tino. For the final part of 758 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: our podcast, It's our weekly sit down, The Voice of 759 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: the Giants, Bob Papa, talks to the head coach of 760 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: the n y G Brian Dable Giants in the Pacific 761 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: Northwest taking on the Seattle Seahawks, and as always were 762 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 1: joined by the head coach of the New York Giants 763 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: coach Brian Dable and uh, coach, you know, just going 764 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 1: back to last week real quickly. Uh, you know, play 765 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 1: to the profile, figure out a way to make plays 766 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: to win. I know you finished the game with a 767 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,959 Speaker 1: touchdown saving tackle, but I know that's not the way 768 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: you want to finish games. Yeah, you know that was 769 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: a full sixty minute game, went all the way down 770 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: to the wire. Uh. Certainly there are things that we 771 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: could have done better during that game. But credit to 772 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: the players. They played for sixty minutes and they got 773 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: the job done. Now you got a Seattle team that's 774 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,280 Speaker 1: four and three, coming off a goodwin against the Chargers 775 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: last week. Uh, they're in first place in their division. 776 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: And you know, one of the cool surprises this year 777 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: if you're an NFL fan, Maybe not for your guys 778 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: preparing for it, but it has been the play of 779 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: Geno Smith. I mean, he leads the league in completion percentage, 780 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 1: third and quarterback rating, and he can push the ball 781 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: down the field. He's got eight touchdowns of twenty more 782 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: yards in the air. Just as you've studied him this 783 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: week and prepared for him, what's made him different and good? Yeah, 784 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: I just say he's playing at a very high level. 785 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: I think the offense that they're running is very conducive 786 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: to skill set. Again, he can throw the ball deep, 787 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 1: which obviously you just mentioned those numbers, intermediate and short. 788 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: He's made good decisions. He's very compact in the pocket. Um, 789 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, he can get out of the pocket if 790 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 1: he needs to. But just just playing the quarterback position 791 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: at a very high level right now. And one of 792 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: the things that they like to do, like you like 793 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: to do, is run the football. And rookie Kenneth Walker 794 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: has been absolutely amazing. I mean, over the last a 795 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 1: couple of weeks as a starter, he's averaging a hundred 796 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: and thirty two and a half yards per game. Uh, 797 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: as you study him, what makes him so dynamic? He 798 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: has all the skill set to be a very very 799 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: good running back in this league. He's got great vision patients, 800 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: he can take it to the house. He's got quickness, balance, 801 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: body control. He's usually making positive yards when the balls 802 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: in his hand. And um, he's certainly a challenge for 803 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: for our defense. UM, and I'd say probably a lot 804 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: of defenses in the NFL. He's he's a dynamic running 805 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: back and he's explosive to right. I mean he's uh 806 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: se Kwan's got six runs of twenty or more yards, 807 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: He's got five. Um. Can you talk about sort of 808 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: the combination of the power and the explosion that he has. Yeah, 809 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: it's it's unique. Um. And again, we liked him when 810 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: he was coming out of the draft, and certainly it's 811 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: not surprising that he's doing this right now. Just a 812 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: tremendous athlete. Again, you know, you you max, you mix 813 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: his explosiveness, his quickness, his vision, um, his anticipation, his instincts, 814 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,439 Speaker 1: all things that just make him a dynamic running back. 815 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: Another component that they have off pensively as Tyler Lockett. Uh, 816 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: you know, he's a veteran guy. You could still see 817 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson throwing those balls floating in there, those deep 818 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 1: balls to Tyler Lockett, and he's kind of not missed 819 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,240 Speaker 1: a step. I mean, over the last two years, twenty 820 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: two touchdown receptions or twenty two receptions in which the 821 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: ball travels in the year twenty more yards. What makes 822 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: him so good at that one? He's got great speed, 823 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 1: He's got, you know, great vision in terms of when 824 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: the ball is coming down, in the ability to adjust, 825 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,760 Speaker 1: he's very smooth, he's a creative and route runner. Um, 826 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: you know, he's a heck of a receiver. You know, 827 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: I remember visiting him way back in the day when 828 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: when I was a position coach out in college, and um, 829 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: you know he's he's been a really good player for 830 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: a long time and one of the most productive players 831 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: on their football team. Let's go to the other side 832 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 1: of the ball and what you're gonna be dealing with 833 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: them defensively. Um, they've got two defensive scores. Um. Tarik 834 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: Wooland has been unbelievable as a rookie fifth round draft pick. 835 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: Four interceptions, he's got to pick six. He's uh blocked 836 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: the field goal this season that was returned for a touchdown. 837 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: What makes their defense a unique challenge this week? Well, 838 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: they play the system very well, that coach Carroll has 839 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,240 Speaker 1: their um and they have really fast, talented players. Obviously, 840 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: Tarika has has really been outstanding. He's got great length, 841 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: you know, for a big guy, he can he can bend, 842 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 1: he can change direction, he's got good ball skills. Um. 843 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 1: You know, they're fast and they're physical and they play 844 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 1: for sixty minutes. UM. Certainly going to be a challenge, 845 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: particularly playing you know, on the road at that stadium 846 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,320 Speaker 1: where coach Carroll has I think it's around a seventy 847 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: percent little over seventy percent winning percentage um in Seattle, coach. 848 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 1: One of the best ways to take crowd noise, you know, 849 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: the twelve man out of the game is to be 850 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: able to win at the line of scrimmage and establish 851 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: your run game. Is that a simplistic version of one 852 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: of the big keys to this game? Yeah, I think 853 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage is all always where it starts 854 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, and they have a 855 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: dynamic running game, and um, I know they're gonna, you know, 856 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: be trying to pound it at us, and we're gonna 857 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: have to do a good job of of trying to 858 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: get knocked back, set in the edge and making tackles 859 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 1: and and we're gonna have to do the same on offense. 860 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: It's not always gonna be pretty. The run game never is, 861 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: but the game always and we'll always started the line 862 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Coach um Daniel Jones won the NFC Offensive 863 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: Player of the Week last week. Obviously his first one 864 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: career rushing game, but two hundred yards passing. Can you 865 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about his growth from the start 866 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: of training camp, but even now, I thought that was 867 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: one of the best games I've ever seen him play. 868 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: Although the passing numbers aren't like off the charts, Um, 869 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: the command that he had and the leadership that he 870 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: showed was maybe one of his best performances ever. Yeah, 871 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: I think he's improved since we got here, go all 872 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,399 Speaker 1: the way back to O. T. A. S and then 873 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: the training camp, the preseason, and and now the early 874 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: part of this season. I think obviously playing in a 875 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: system and getting familiar with it um helps. Again, we're 876 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: still at the early stages, but he's done everything we've 877 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: asked him to do, and you know, he's playing the 878 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: quarterback position for us the way we need him to. 879 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,720 Speaker 1: And coach one final thing, Um, you know Darius Slayton, 880 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 1: you know he was kind of lingering around and he 881 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: was it wasn't kind of going well for him, but 882 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: he hung in there. Can you talk about the young 883 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: man's perseverance and the fact that when his number finally 884 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: was called, he's been starting to make plays. He's stretching 885 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: the field for you. He's got the touchdown last week, 886 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: but he's also drawn penalties and becoming a matchup problem 887 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: for teams. Yeah, what a great teammate. You know. I 888 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 1: think he's got good competitive stamina. He's shown that, you know, 889 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 1: through those phases of what I talked about with Daniel, 890 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,439 Speaker 1: and it wasn't always going his way, but he kept 891 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: his head down, he kept working. Um, you know, really 892 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: good teammate and I'm I'm happy that, you know, he 893 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 1: kind of fought through that and has made some place 894 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: for us and we're counting on him down the road. Coach, 895 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,720 Speaker 1: best of luck, bring the ear plugs out and best 896 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: of luck, and we'll do it again, not next week, 897 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 1: but in two weeks. Thanks, appreciate you. That's Johnant's head coach, 898 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 1: Brian dab Will. We thank them for joining us on 899 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: this week's edition of The Giants Subtle Podcast. 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