1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: We're on the. 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: Radio for one till four, and after four o'clock, the 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: iHeart Haat serves up the John and Ken on demand podcast. 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 3: All right, well, we're all here, but of course we're 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 3: going to start with the big story that has also 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 3: become national news, the shooting death of an LA County 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: shriff's deputy Saturday night in Palmdale. Let's bring on Steve 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: Gregory because today they have arrested a suspect. That's the 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: big updates. 12 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: Do we know who the suspect is, Steve, we. 13 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: Do, Yeah, Yeah. His name is Kevin Salazar. He's a 14 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: twenty nine year old man who lives in Palmdale. And 15 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: here is the iringy in this fellas, while they were 16 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: having a vigil for Ryan Clinkenbrumer last night in the 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: town of Palmdale. That's the tip that they got at 18 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: the same time that led SWAT teams over to the 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: home of Salazar. Now, they surveiled for a little bit 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: and then they eventually took action and overnight hours is 21 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 2: when they went in and asked the family to get out. Well, 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: Salazar refused to come out of the house, so he 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: barricaded himself inside the home for a few hours, and 24 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: roughly five am this morning is when they logged in 25 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: some teargas and got him to come out, and he 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: came out, surrendered and with his hands up and was 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: taken into custody and he's being questioned now. No parent 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: motive has been given, and there is I can tell 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 2: you from sources I've been talking with, there's no immediate 30 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 2: tie to any gangs, whether he's got a direct or 31 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: indirect involvement, gang affiliation, or gang membership. Seems as that's 32 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: not the case right now. 33 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: Any word on a criminal record. 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: Well, when Sheriff Fluna was asked at the Fresh conference 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: this morning at ten thirty about that, he said, we're 36 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: still reviewing that, so there. 37 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,279 Speaker 1: Must be one, otherwise there'd be nothing to review. 38 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the thing, So that that's information you can 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: pull up in a patrol car. You you get a 40 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: guy's background pretty quickly on a on you know, a 41 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: background check. And he said that that's they want to 42 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: They're going to be incredibly tight lipped on this case, 43 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: much like they did in the case of the two 44 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: deputies who got shot point blank down in the train 45 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: station and content, if you might recall we could we 46 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: can get very much information out of officials then as well. 47 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: Well, I want to know if it's a Gascone production that. 48 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: Will come out eventually. But the other thing that they're 49 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: trying to do is prevent any problems of being able 50 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 2: to prosecute the guy. But if I don't know if 51 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: you heard the press conference, but Luna did make a 52 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 2: point to say that he personally spoke with Gascon, and 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: Gascon said he would uh use the full force of 54 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: his office to go after this guy. So take that 55 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: for what it's worth, you know. 56 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well I really want to know the context 57 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: of the circumstances of this Steve is he just drove 58 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: up alongside the deputy's patrol car and just shot. 59 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: Him, Yeah, from behind. Happening Saturday night around six o'clock 60 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: at the intersection of Sierra Highway and Avenue Q. And 61 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: that's right in front of the Palmdale Shriff station. That's 62 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: a pretty ballsy effort, right in the middle of It 63 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: wasn't broad dayla per se. It was dusk, but it 64 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 2: was still bright enough outside where you could see clearly 65 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: what was going on. And it was some grainy surveillance 66 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: video that gave him the imagery of that gray Toyota Corolla. 67 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: And it was after the press conference yesterday at four 68 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: o'clock in Palmdale with the sheriff that led the SWAT 69 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: team to that house. Apparently after they showed the photos 70 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: of that car, tips started to pour in. I mean, 71 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: it was just they said, it was unbelievable how quickly 72 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: people called in. And one of the giveaways in that 73 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: photo too were those very unique hubcaps. It was a 74 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: very unique design of hubcap that was on that car. 75 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: And they immediately got some tips that came in and 76 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: they were able to pretty much vet and find this 77 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: guy pretty quickly. 78 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: Do we know who he's living with in that in 79 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: that home? 80 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: All the family members? All they said, family members, We 81 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: don't know if we have a wife or a mother. 82 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 2: We don't know that. 83 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: Well. 84 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 3: Twelve noon, he also going to Times has published a 85 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: story John, don't know if you have it in front 86 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: of you, by three writers who interviewed the mother, And 87 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: we're going to get into that in a moment, but 88 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: we want to finish the details off with Steve first, 89 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: but it does focus a lot on mental illness allegedly 90 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: of this suspect. I had seen that in a story 91 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: that too is paranoid schizophrenic. The mother says, oh, so 92 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 3: diagnosed five years ago hearing voices in his head because 93 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: I was going to ask Steve. They don't believe that 94 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: he targeted this deputy, that he knew that, or he 95 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: just decided the voices and had told him to kill 96 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 3: a cop. We don't know that yet. 97 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: Well, no, and that they said. That's why they say 98 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: there was no parent motive. No, you know, clear immediate 99 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 2: motive and no ties to gang. So then you have 100 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: to start kind of taking it from there and finding 101 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: out about his home life. And here's the thing, so 102 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: if he is in fact a paranoid schizophrenic, they also 103 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 2: found a cache of weapons. They said they found numerous 104 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: weapons in his possession inside that home. So it also 105 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: begs the question, so if mom was really worried about 106 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: his mental illness, did mom know the guns were in 107 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 2: the house. 108 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 3: I read the article and I said the same thing 109 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,239 Speaker 3: to myself. You're letting your son who you admit, because 110 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: if you read the story, she's like, oh, they're here 111 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: to arrest them for a murder. But what about the 112 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 3: fact that he's been mentally ill these years and no 113 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: one's taken care of him. I'm like, yeah, you let 114 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 3: him have a gun. I mean, honestly meant twenty nine 115 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 3: twenty nine guns. 116 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: No, no, no. 117 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 3: But because often in these families, the parents enable the 118 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: crazy person. 119 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: They do. 120 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: They don't have the strength to look at the kid critically, 121 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 3: he's still there, but their little baby. 122 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: If you think about it, and you know, you look 123 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: at the Sandy Hook shooting, that was the situation where 124 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: you know, the red flags were up the guy and 125 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 2: the guy had a gun and he was, you know, 126 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: diagnosed mentally ill, then that would also answer the question 127 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 2: that I mean, that question came up in the press 128 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: conference today. Uh, the sheriff was asked about, you know, 129 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: were you aware of this, this guy's mental illness, and 130 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 2: the Sheriff's like, you know, to the Sheriff's credit, he's like, 131 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: I have no idea what one has to do with 132 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: the other. Basically, it's not. 133 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: An excuse, it's not a defense. It's he should have 134 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: been locked up somewhere already if he's that mentally ill 135 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: and now he's got to be locked up forever. He 136 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: got to get the death penalty. I don't care what 137 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: he's got. 138 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: Well, it was a pretty brazen act to not only 139 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: just target law enforcement in general, but to do it 140 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: in broad daylight like that. That takes a lot of balls. 141 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: You don't get a pass to kill cops because you're 142 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: hearing voices. 143 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's interesting that that that narrative 144 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: is already underway. You know, it's just kind of interesting 145 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: to me. 146 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 1: All Right, Steve, thank you very much for that report. 147 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. 148 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: You got a guy stick care. 149 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 3: It's Steve Gregor recovering the shooting of the La County 150 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 3: Sheriff's deputy in Palmdale Saturday night. The suspect is Kevin 151 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: Katano Salazar, aged twenty nine, and in this interview that 152 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: the Times reporters did in Spanish with his mother, she said, 153 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: my son is mentally illly if he did something, he 154 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: wasn't into his full mental capacity. They're not only saying 155 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: that he's the one that shop the deputy, but nobody's 156 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: saying he has a record for needing mental help. That's 157 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: what I meant, Like, she's pleading that nobody's helped him, 158 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: and now look what's happened. He hears voices in his head. 159 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: Sometimes comes home telling his parents and siblings cars or 160 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: people were following. 161 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: Him on the streets. Good. 162 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: At times, he'd grow so upset he would cover his 163 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 3: ears with his hands, yell, or stick his head in 164 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: a trash can to drown out the voices. 165 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: Good, excellent, and him let him go driving a car 166 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: round town. Right, and let him have twenty nine weapons. 167 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: They want to throw mom and everyone else in that 168 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: family into prison with him. They're just as dangerous. They 169 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: created the situation. 170 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: Ask him what is he hearing? He would just get hysterical. 171 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: He'd grow upset. We try to calm him down. Often 172 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: after such episodes, her son would start to act like 173 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: a child of five years old and asked to be hugged. 174 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: He's got a severely damaged brain. You can't calm him down. 175 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: You can't get him to a better place. It's impossible. 176 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: It's brain damage. The brain doesn't work. It's never going 177 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: to be fixed. You put those people in a mental institution, 178 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: you lock them up. 179 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: He said that he I hospitalized in Silmar in the 180 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: past year. Seem to be doing better, but stop taking 181 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 3: his medication about ten months ago, but he appeared to 182 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 3: be calm so that he didn't press the issue. 183 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: If you don't force the medication down their throats, it's pointless. 184 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: Without the medication, their brain reverts back to its natural state. 185 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: The medication hides the symptoms until you stop taking the medication, 186 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: and then the brain goes back to regular programming, which 187 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: is insanity and voices and violence. I can't believe at 188 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: this late date in twenty twenty three, that nobody has 189 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: a basic understanding of mental illness and how it works. 190 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: And you can't teach them, you can't fix them, you 191 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: can't rehabilitate them. I'm just we're like such a stupid, 192 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: stupid society when it comes to mental illness. When the 193 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: brain is damaged, it's damaged. It's like trying to run 194 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: a car on four blown tires. You can't. The car 195 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: doesn't go anywhere. 196 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 3: So, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised he as a 197 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: criminal record, but obviously he has the psychological record if 198 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 3: he was actually diagnosed, and we're probably gonna find out 199 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: that the voices in his head drove and to kill 200 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: somebody and with a police car really got his attention. 201 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: But you don't want the dumbass psychiatric industry. All they 202 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: do is give you medication that everyone knows most of 203 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: the schizophrenics don't even take because one of the aspects 204 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: of being a schizophrenic is you don't know you're crazy. 205 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: You don't think you're crazy, you don't have that self awareness, 206 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: so you don't you don't want to take the medication. 207 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: Well, along these lines, when we come back, I can't 208 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: every time I see these kinds of numbers, I just 209 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 3: I can't believe it. Over one thousand bills are headed 210 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: to Gavin Newsom a thousand, most of them horrible and useless, 211 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: and we'll get to that. The one we're going to 212 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: talk about when we come back is sort of related 213 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: to what we're talking about now. They have passed a 214 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 3: bill that supposedly is going to give them more power 215 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: to amend the California mental illness laws and whether or 216 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 3: not we can take conservatorship of people. 217 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: But I'm looking at. 218 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 3: The woman behind this piece of legislation, I really kind 219 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 3: of doubt it. Although there are, of course people in 220 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: the healthcare field who fear that this will take away 221 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 3: civil liberties. 222 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: We'll talk about when we come back here, know, somebody 223 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: shure taken away the civil liberties of this cop killer. 224 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: We got to start taking away civil liberties. That's got 225 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: to be the next frontier. Johnny Ken I AM six 226 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: forty We're live everywhere. It's the iHeartRadio app. 227 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 228 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 4: AM six. 229 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: Up on the radio from one till four after four 230 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: o'clock the John Again on Demand podcast. We'll be posted 231 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: same show. You can pick up what you missed. 232 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 3: So the word from family members of the guy who's 233 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 3: been arrested for shooting the Ellie County Sheriff's deputy to 234 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 3: death on Saturday night in Palmdale is that he's a 235 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 3: paranoid schizophrenic, which brings us to this story because it's 236 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: dealing with the horrible legislature. They finished their session on Friday, 237 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: which means they pushed through apparently a thousand bills have 238 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: been sent together, a thousand bills. Anyway, we're going to 239 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: talk about one right now, Senate Bill forty three, because 240 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: this has come up on the show many times over 241 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 3: the years in the past. Nineteen sixty seven, they changed 242 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 3: the behavioral health laws known as LPs. The Act went 243 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: into effect in nineteen seventy two, and this was because 244 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 3: we well they thought we were over institutionalizing people, putting 245 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: people in horrible mental health facilities. They were treated like crap. 246 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 3: Of them died of neglect, and it was all about 247 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: just taking money and terrible housing. So you know, they 248 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: tried to make it I guess a little more difficult 249 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: to get what they call conservativeship nearly impossible. Yeah, well, 250 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 3: so what they've tried to do with this bill, and 251 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 3: it's from a woman that is particularly out there progressive, 252 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: Susan Telmante's eggman from Stockton, a Democrat state senator. But 253 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 3: it did pass, and it's on its way to Newsome. 254 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: And it's supposed to change the definition of somebody who 255 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: is considered gravely disabled, some call it they're trying to 256 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 3: modernize the definition. 257 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: Well, they're adding severe substance use disorder. Yes, that's just 258 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: dead substance use, all right, So the math addicts and 259 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: the heroin fentinel attics supposedly will be scooped up off 260 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: the streets, right, that's what you'd think. 261 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: This Act is only as good as it's implemented. Right, Well, 262 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 3: just because it's there. It doesn't mean anybody will do it. 263 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 3: It's up to the counties to carry this out. And 264 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: immediately responses they don't have enough mental health facilities to 265 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 3: take care of all these people you think you're taking 266 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: in for conservativeship. This is why there's a six billion 267 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: dollar bond on next year's ballot. Did you know that 268 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 3: to us? 269 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: Yes, well, this is when they screwed up back in 270 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two. Is when the new law was implemented. 271 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: Actually he was passed in sixty seven, and yes, Ronald 272 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: Reagan signed it, and it was bipartisan, huge support both parties. 273 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: Everybody was into this. But there was a part two 274 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: to the bill that was never followed through. There were 275 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: supposed to be tons of tax money used so that 276 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: local and regional mental health and drug addiction facilities would 277 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: be built and staffed and all these damaged brains would 278 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: be treated properly. So they let everybody out of the 279 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: mental hospitals. But they didn't. They built hardly any mental 280 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: health and drug treatment centers, so they all ended up 281 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: on the street. 282 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 3: They were supposed to come involuntarily for this mental health 283 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: and drug treatment. But I but how come if that 284 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 3: law took effect in nineteen seventy two. How come it 285 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: took until this past decade for this to get so atrocious? 286 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: Is it because we passed to Prop forty seven and 287 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: things like that. 288 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: Yes, when we dumped the prisoners in twenty eleven, when 289 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: we passed forty seven, when we passed fifty seven, when 290 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: we got rid of you know, bail, when we stopped 291 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,479 Speaker 1: putting people in jail for misdemeanors. Oh, and the tremendous 292 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: drug trade over the Mexican border, right the border went 293 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: to hell. And these Mexican lab technicians are making incredible myth. 294 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: And the myth is made of synthetic chemicals, and the 295 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: chemicals and the combinations that they use now didn't exist 296 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: back then. They didn't have these kind of drug problems. 297 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: Back then, people were mostly getting stoned and using coke. 298 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: This didn't exist in this form. It's extremely deadly. The 299 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: fentonolse extremely deadly. That was another thing that didn't exist 300 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: in this form. And it's because they have perfected and 301 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: they constantly improve on the synthetic drugs in these labs. 302 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: The ingredients come from China to Mexico. Mexico manufactures it 303 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: and sends it here over the border, and the drug 304 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: cartels make billions that entire infrastructure didn't exist fifty years. 305 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 3: Ago like it does today, not even ten years ago. No, 306 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: not even ten years from quite a business, and fentanyl 307 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: is adding to the problem. So it says here under 308 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: the bill, if evidence is found that a mental health 309 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: disorder of substance use disorder is placing or will place 310 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: a person's physical or mental health at substantial risk of 311 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: serious harm, crisis teams and mental health providers can initiate 312 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: an involuntary hold that can lead to conservativeship. Well, then 313 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 3: my question is who are the crisis teams and mental 314 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: health providers we're talking about? All these are the little 315 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: ambassadors that already walk around, the outreach workers from the 316 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: nonprofits who really don't. 317 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: Look like they want to take anybody in under conservativeship. 318 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: That's not need somebody to know, I mean the outreach 319 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 3: teams from these nonprofits. 320 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna use the word ambassador. It's more about security. 321 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 3: But I'm talking about the outreach workers from these nonprofits 322 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 3: that are out there that we've seen put ultimately homeless camps. 323 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 3: You're gonna you're gonna need police with guns, because allow 324 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: that to happen, the counties aren't allowed police with guns, well, 325 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: then they're not going to be put away. And this 326 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: will fail. That's why I'm saying it may fail. It's 327 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: only as good as it's implemented. That's my problem with 328 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 3: this bill. This is something for everybody to run on 329 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: next year. That's all because they know when they go 330 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: home to their districts and the primaries are going to 331 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 3: be in March, right, The primaries are pretty close. They're 332 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: in March, you know for the legislature and then the 333 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: general election in November. Everybody's going to be running in 334 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 3: their districts, and people who represent the Los Angeles, San Diego, 335 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: San Francisco and all the rest, everyone's going to be 336 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: screaming at them. Everyone's going to be screaming at him 337 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: over the crime and the homeliness and the drug addicts 338 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 3: and the mental patients. So they're all going to have 339 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: a standard speech on an index and they're gonna explain 340 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 3: this new UH Conservation Act that's and and everyone's gonna nod, 341 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 3: going on, well, that sounds good, you know, I'm glad 342 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 3: we're finally getting smart about this. 343 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: I gotna see yeah, well, let's give it a chance, 344 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: and then then that's gonna be the next like, let's 345 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: give it a chance. Right now, you're gonna see two years, 346 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a story Howe Newsom's uh, Newsom's conservancy 347 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: plan didn't really work, didn't change it. I have to 348 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: give it a chance. The funding is just starting to trinkle. 349 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: That's usually what they say, right, the same thing with 350 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: the housing bills, right, that's what they said. 351 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: If give it a. 352 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: Chance, we'll have all the homeless house within a few years. 353 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 3: Just let us spend billions more. 354 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: If I thought we had intelligent people running this, then yeah, 355 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: maybe something good will happen. We don't have intelligent people, 356 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: and you know we don't. We don't have intelligent politicians 357 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: and representatives. All right, we got more coming up. Johnny 358 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: Ken kf I am six forty. We're live everywhere at 359 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio Act. 360 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI. 361 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: On on the radio one to four after four of 362 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: the iHeart after the Johnny Cannon Demand podcast. 363 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 2: Hi. 364 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: Every hour. 365 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 3: During the show, we'll be looking at more of the 366 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: crazy pieces of legislation that passed in Sacramento. 367 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: We'll get back to that later. 368 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 3: Now we return to an oldie, but a goodie, the 369 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 3: price of gasoline jaw dropping, right, John would be be 370 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: I guess we could be reeling and roiling over what's 371 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 3: happened in just the last few days. Of five cent 372 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 3: jumped today, on top of a fourteen cent jump the 373 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 3: day before. The average price of gallon of a gas 374 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 3: at a regular gas at Los Angeles County is making 375 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 3: its way towards the six dollars mark very rapidly. 376 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: I was in Florida last week. Oh that's right, Yes, 377 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: three dollars and forty cents. 378 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 3: Well, we're rising to the record we had October of 379 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 3: last year and it was six fifty six dollars and 380 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 3: fifty cents. Well, that's heading towards six gallons. And there 381 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 3: seems to be no break to this, although. 382 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom and the legislature and it's their taxes, that's 383 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: the difference between us and everybody else. Yeah. 384 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 3: So the only thing I learned last week when I 385 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 3: talked about this on the air is, and you're gonna laugh, 386 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 3: the winter blend is coming. 387 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: So that usually drops the price by put. 388 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 2: Of the house. 389 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's a structural problem in California. The gas 390 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: the taxes are excessive, period, They're excessive and abusive, and 391 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: it hurts the middle class and the lower class, and 392 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: everybody keeps voting for the same jack holes who steal 393 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: their money every gallon, every tankful. It's fascinating to me. 394 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: I really, everybody ought across the border and go drive 395 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: into other states for a day and if you could 396 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: afford to and see what it's like in most of 397 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: the rest of the United States, it's nothing close to 398 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: this well, and you're simply getting bent over and ripped 399 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: off it. 400 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 3: That leads us to this story, because if you think 401 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 3: it's bad now, it's going to get. 402 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: A lot worse. 403 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: Because the state of California has sued the five major 404 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 3: oil companies and their trade association for eight decades long 405 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: campaign of deception and creating statewide climate change related harms 406 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 3: in California. This is supposed to be like the tobacco lawsuits, 407 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: that these oil companies knew that their product leads to 408 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 3: climate change and use lies and mythschuites to cover up 409 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: what they were doing to the environment. I know you're 410 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 3: probably laughing, but that's the lawsuit and the endgame for 411 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 3: this dopey Rob Bonta, the Attorney general, is to take 412 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 3: billions from them. Yeah, that's what he probably wants to 413 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: shave down from it. What do you think is going 414 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 3: to happen to your gas prices? 415 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 4: Then? 416 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: In California, it's a mafia shakedown, that's all it is. 417 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: It's a preposterous lawsuit. Anybody can file lawsuit, and anybody 418 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: can hire some scumbag lawyers to create complicated legal arguments 419 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: that are nonsense. It's easy to do. 420 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: And Bonta can spend our tax money on an absurd 421 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: lawsuit because hey, he wants to be the next governor 422 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 3: after do some so he wants you want us to 423 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 3: lead to an absurd judge and an absurd jury and 424 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: of finding against the oil companies now and they'll just 425 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 3: turn around and either leave the state, which further diminishes 426 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 3: the supply, or raise your gas prices. 427 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 1: But they don't. That's what's going to happen with this. 428 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: They don't care all a guy like Bonta, like Newsome, 429 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: they're in a cult. And when when people are religious fundamentalists, 430 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: they do irrational, crazy things. How many times have you 431 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: seen it on television? A group of fundamentalist religious people 432 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: went on a rampage today. They did. They're they're crazy, 433 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: they're insane. Wars are started over religion. That's what this is. 434 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: This is a religious war that they've declared on the 435 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: oil companies and really on us because we have, we have, 436 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: we have to pay for this nonsense, and they're trying 437 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: to force people into electric cars, and electric cars suck. 438 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: You know, the whole electric car system doesn't work, and 439 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: everybody knows it doesn't work, and not on a mass basis. 440 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: You are right, it doesn't, It absolutely doesn't. But you 441 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: know what, the public's onto this because I heard a 442 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: business report this morning where a reporter said he talked 443 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: to a Ford dealer who has rows and rows and 444 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 1: rows of cars on his lot, and guy asked him, 445 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: It's like, what are all these cars on the lot? Oh? 446 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: Those are the electric cars that the government is forcing 447 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: us to sell, but nobody wants them. 448 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 3: Well, save it for next hour, because you're all going 449 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 3: to get into the United Auto Workers strike because there 450 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 3: is of course a huge connection to the electric vehicle story. 451 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 3: So we'll get to that after two o'clock. Bonta wants 452 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 3: to create Oh my god, a nuisance abatement fund. So 453 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: he's going to take and I'm just using a figure 454 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 3: the billions he's going to get from these oil companies 455 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: and use it to try to repair destruction caused by 456 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 3: the pollution. 457 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: I have no idea. What there's no destruction in the 458 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: state of California, just a way of bagging money into 459 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: the state. Coffers all this is. It's not pollution and 460 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: there's no destruction. There's been no damage to the state 461 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: of California because of their alleged climate change. What damage? 462 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: What pollution? Carbon dioxide is a natural element in the 463 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: atmosphere and it's what keeps trees and plants alive. It's 464 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: what we exhale. So the idea that what we exhale 465 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: and what trees and plants inhale is pollution is completely 466 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: utterly absurd. This I don't know. I don't know what 467 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: else to say. I mean, you can have an argument 468 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: where there's some good points to the argument. You can 469 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: see both sides all that there's nothing here. There's no 470 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: such thing as this being pollution. That's a made up term. 471 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: Because people weren't responding to their original arguments. They have 472 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: been selling this now for over twenty five years, and 473 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: people weren't buying for a long time, so they had 474 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: to change the language. Right, They didn't buy global warming 475 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: because you know, people kept enjoying bad winters. I can't 476 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: call it global I gotta call the climate change. Oh 477 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: we've got we've got to call it pollution now and 478 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: and and you know most look, half the public has 479 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: an IQ of of average or below. Okay, half half 480 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: the public is below one hundred on the IQ scale. 481 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: So what do you think you think you're gonna be 482 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: able to teach them the nuances of climate change, the 483 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: nuances of the law. 484 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 3: No, well, that's why they're so easily uh stirred up 485 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: by warm summers. And that that's all the media has 486 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 3: to do is run stories about that it's killing us. 487 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: Do something. It's not killing us. It's not way more people. 488 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: The Times will say the August was the hottest on 489 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: the planet's history. See the other day. The Times doesn't 490 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: know that. That's impossible to know. That is complete nonsense, 491 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: recorded history. You know what, I read something last night. 492 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: I was reading National Geographic and this is gonna sound stupid, 493 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: but just with me for ten seconds. They had a 494 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: story on cedar trees in North Carolina a cedar tree forest. 495 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: Don't ask me why I was reading this. And in 496 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,479 Speaker 1: the middle of the story they talked about what they 497 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: did is they drilled into the core of a cedar 498 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: tree that was one thousand or two thousand years old, 499 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: and then they looked at the core sample that they 500 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: pulled out, and they found out that there was a really, 501 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: really long drought in the fifteen hundreds. And the scientists said, wow, Wow, 502 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: there's nothing in the last century that comes anywhere near 503 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: what was going on in North Carolina in the fourteen hundreds. 504 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: They had extremely long drought went on for decades and decades. 505 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: And I looked at that. It's like, yeah, how many, 506 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: how many? How many cars were being driven around in 507 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: North Carolina in fourteen sixty, but they had a big 508 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: drought and probably it was really hot. This is nonsense. 509 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: They made this scene. 510 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 3: You had a very long, boring vacation, you're reading about 511 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 3: cedar trees. No. 512 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: I had a flight on the East coast, and I 513 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: was very tired last night, but I was trying to 514 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: keep myself awake so I could adjust to the time difference. 515 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: So there was a national geographic lying around, and I 516 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: thought I forced myself to read it and pick it up, 517 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: and I got engrossed in the Cedar Tree article. 518 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 3: Okay, we got war coming up Johnny Kid CAF I 519 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: AM six forty live everywhere. 520 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app Deborah Mark. By the way, she's wearing intellectual 521 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: glasses now as she reads the news. She's trying to 522 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: change her image. 523 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 2: I am. 524 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: I want to be taken more seriously, Kain, So I 525 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: have to work so that you got an extra like yeah, 526 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: thirty IQ points right there with the glasses. 527 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: Oh thank you. 528 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 4: All right, you're listening to John and Ken on demand 529 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 4: from KFI AM six forty. 530 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 3: All right, coming up after two o'clock. I thought I 531 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: was hearing things when the a lotted auto workers went 532 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 3: on strike. But it's real and we'll get to the 533 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 3: bottom of it. It has a lot to do with electric 534 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 3: vehicle production, so we'll get into that after the news 535 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 3: at two o'clock. The shocking story Friday that an armed 536 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: man showed up at a Robert F. Kennedy Junior rally 537 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 3: in Los Angeles dressed up like a US marshal, raised 538 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 3: a lot of alarms. Apparently RFK Junior was speaking at 539 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 3: a Hispanic heritage event at the Wilshire Ebell Theater, which 540 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: wasn't really that far from where his father was killed. 541 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: Robert F. 542 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: Kennedy not just a miler two. This to Miler two. 543 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 3: So what we've learned about Adrian Paul Espuro, the forty 544 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 3: four year old who has been detained, brings us back 545 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 3: to what we talked about earlier this hour, Conservatorship, Holy mackerel. 546 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 3: It turns out he's a huge anti vaxer. He's a 547 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 3: big Trump fan. His brother, I think described him best. 548 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 3: The Daily Beast had a chance to talk to his brother, Raymond. 549 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: Raymond confirmed that his brother remains in custody, but called 550 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 3: bs on Kennedy's claim that the accused attempted to approach 551 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 3: him because Kennedy put out a press release thanking security 552 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 3: and such for detaining this man. It says here Raymond Espiro, 553 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 3: the brother, said police also detained him at the theater 554 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 3: and searched his vehicle. He highlighted videos posted online showing 555 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: cops cuffing his brother on the sidewalk outside the Wilshire Ebel. 556 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 3: He said his brother is an unemployed EMT who lives 557 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 3: with their parents, does not have a car asked him 558 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 3: for a ride to what the accused told them was 559 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 3: a single day security job. The brother said, he told 560 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 3: me he was in communication with someone about a gig, 561 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 3: a private contract gig, a one time deal, and he 562 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 3: had to go that day. 563 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: To work it. 564 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 3: I don't know who he talks to or what I 565 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: just get whatever vague information he gives me. Oh, his 566 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 3: imaginary friends hired him. Yeah, so he went there dressed 567 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 3: up like he was an official Marshal security guy because 568 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 3: in his brain some voice must have been telling him 569 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 3: they need me. 570 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: Where did he get to go there? Where did he 571 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: get the uniform? You can probably buy that stuff home. 572 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: You could find a US Marshall's unifor well, it looks 573 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: close enough. Yeah, it says here he has. 574 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 3: A shoulder hostel holsters, identical shirts that look like the sunglasses. 575 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: But apparently he's probably he's posted a lot of stuff 576 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: to TikTok dealing with Every schizophrenic has their own social 577 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: media show. Isn't that great? 578 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? His brother says that he spends a lot of 579 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 3: time watching videos about aliens. Uh space, aliens ought to 580 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 3: be locked up. I just looked up you know how 581 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 3: many par schizophrenics there are in America almost three million. 582 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 3: Well think about that, almost three million people are wandering 583 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 3: around living in an imaginary world where where they have 584 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 3: all kinds of fake people talking to them all day. 585 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: They can see them. They're being spoken to. The dogs 586 00:29:59,080 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: are talking to them. 587 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: Ah. 588 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 3: He really has a strong slant against vaccines. But apparently 589 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 3: he expressed a belief that his own name has a 590 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 3: special numerological significance and he had a desire to communicate 591 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 3: with motorcycle gangs. 592 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: Why is he going after Robert Kennedy because they would share, right, 593 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: Maybe he wasn't. 594 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 3: Maybe in his head he was going there to help 595 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 3: and protect RFK Jr. But it says here according to 596 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 3: his brother, he is a Trump fan. I mean, you 597 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 3: could be both. 598 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: I guess can you imagine being Kennedy? Though I'm amazed 599 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: he's running for office. You mean, just the nervousness over. 600 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 3: Thegacy, the family history, because lunatics like this character. 601 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: I don't care what he says. 602 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 3: What you're looking at as a guy in a fake 603 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 3: federal law enforcement uniform and a loaded gun and he's 604 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 3: going to attend a Robert Kennedy event two miles from 605 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 3: where the guy's dad got assassinated and. 606 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: RFK and his message. 607 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: RFK Junior added, I am the only presidential candidate in 608 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 3: history who does not have Secret Service protection. 609 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: My request was denied. Well, that's true. He's still hoping 610 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: Biden will allow him secret Service protection. You have to 611 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: hit You're supposed to hit two criteria. First of all, 612 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: it is it is subjective up to a point. Right, 613 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: They're not going to give every candidate Secret Service protection. 614 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,959 Speaker 1: But once you're within a certain timeframe of the primary season, 615 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: then you can get it if you have five percent 616 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 1: of the vote in the polls. Now he does have 617 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: that on the Democratic side, it's just not primary season yet. 618 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know when that officially is the window 619 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: kick in some point, But I mean, Biden's administration could 620 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: choose to give him secret Service protection, but they said no, 621 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: draw your own dark conclusion. 622 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 3: Let the goat hang in the wind, all right, More 623 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 3: coming up. 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