1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Quite head something like that happened with you know, your 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: kicker being getting injured and warm up there and kind 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: of being stuck in a tough situation. 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: That was That was the first time, I think a 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: few years ago that happened as some other team as well, 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: and I can't remember which exact team, but that's really 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: where you again, the value of trying to create flex 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: and practicing the backups every week is is very important. 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: Where do you stand with Jamie like when you're in 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: those situations as a kicker and like what approximately is 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: his range? Like what do you feel like he could 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: do when he has to step into that role. 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, obviously with that not being his primary position, 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: it's going to be more limited than you know, a 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 2: National Football League kicker that's that's trained to do that. 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: But it will depend on you know obviously, uh you 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: know where we're kicking that in terms of the range, 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: like whether it's windy the home game, away game, But 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: it's definitely a little bit more restricted just with that 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: being his his secondary trait. Young way, you know, he's 21 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: a veteran kicker that's kicked in this league for a 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: long time, has kicked at a pro bowl level. You 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: can tell just I mean a little bit of I've 24 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: got to know him. There is a there's an authentic 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: confidence that you see with him that the situation is 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: not too big for him, and you see that amount 27 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: to success. 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 3: So that's there. 29 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: It's to me, it's a no brainer why he's had 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: so many game winning kicks. There's a level of confidence 31 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: he goes out there knowing that he can execute at 32 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: a high level. 33 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 4: Confidence help them when things go wrong. I mean you 34 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 4: I've heard you say it here. Guys talk all the 35 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: time about you know, when things go bad for kickers, 36 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 4: and you know then you have to turn it around, 37 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: that that fight to try to get it back. 38 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 39 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: Does that help? 40 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: No? Absolutely, Again, to me, the best kickers in this 41 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: league are the ones that have a next snap in 42 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: clear mentality, good, bad, or indifferent. 43 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: So you make a kick that's no. 44 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: Although you'll gain more confidence going into it, that's not 45 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: a declaration that you're going to make the next one. 46 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: So whether you make it, miss it, have an issue 47 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: on it, you just got to learn from it and 48 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: then you got to move on and go play the 49 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: next kick. 50 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: Is this a straight competition for the next few days? Yeah, 51 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: I mean it all. Yeah, always is. 52 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 2: You know, I think the biggest thing in the National 53 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: Football League is any opportunity you have to create competition 54 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: at any position I think is critical and it ultimately 55 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 2: elevates the level of the people competing, and it ultimately 56 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: gives you a better idea of who can give us 57 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: the best. 58 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: Chance to win. And you want to pick one for Sunday, Yeah, 59 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: you know, I sense only one can play. Yeah, I 60 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: believe so. Yeah, when you. 61 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 4: Look back at young Ways tape last year when you're 62 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 4: bringing them in for the tryout, was there an injury 63 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 4: involved to the amount of misses that he had? 64 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: What did you attribute that one? 65 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not really privy to what went down in 66 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: the building over there. I do know that he is 67 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: healthy now, and again, like I put a lot of 68 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: stock into, you know, the culmination of his career. So 69 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: when I see him kicking well when he got here, 70 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, that's that's cool. That's a guy we know, 71 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: and he seems healthy and he's doing a good job. 72 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: So you don't feel like it obviously didn't end well 73 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: for him in Atlanta, right, You don't. When he comes here. 74 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: Your approach is just let him be like, let him 75 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: do what he's done throughout his career. You feel like 76 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: there's something you guys need to fix. 77 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: No, No, there's certainly always going to be an acclamation 78 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: process to where he has to learn the way we 79 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: do things here. You know that operation changes from organization 80 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: organization him learning Jamie him learning Casey. 81 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: I think those are two things that are critical. Now. 82 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: Do I think that it could be a seamless transition 83 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: for a guy that's kicked seven years in this league. Yes, 84 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: because he knows what to look for. He knows what 85 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: he's going to ask those guys to do. So I 86 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: think that that learning process has to happen, But it 87 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: could have and fairly quickly. 88 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: Tracy Down probably Singletary would have a more of an 89 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: offensive role. Does that change your kick return? 90 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: You know, potentially we always practice all those guys today 91 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: and you know, we just will take a look at 92 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: you know, he gives us the best opportunity to return 93 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: on Sunday. 94 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: Are there everybody seems to be kicking away from Gunner 95 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: on those places? Are there ways to outmover that? 96 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 3: There could be? 97 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, at the end of the day, like to have 98 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: the range to cover fifty three and a third with 99 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: one single returner is difficult, especially when you're seeing these 100 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: hangtimes lower and lower kickers are doing a great job 101 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: of hiding intentions on which direction they're going, so it 102 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: makes it more difficult to feature a primary returner. But 103 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you know, you practice it, 104 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: and when you get those those kicks your way, you 105 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 2: want to take advantage of it. I think the biggest 106 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: thing when a guy seems like he's being somewhat restricted 107 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: from those return opportunities, you got to make concerned that 108 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 2: you still rely on your fundamentals because the nature of 109 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: it is, if you don't get the ball that offer 110 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: turn has to be an active blocker anyway. 111 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: He's an integral part of the return having success. 112 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: And I think you know, when you look at it 113 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: the past few weeks, whoever was a. 114 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: Side gunner has done a nice job. 115 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: And that's a credit to gunner as well, a great communicator, 116 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: a great blocker, and then the other ten guys on 117 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: the football field, you know, just making certain that the 118 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 2: blocking is correct, the vision, all that stuff, you know, 119 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: has amounted to some success on that unit. 120 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: If you could just pick any guys you want to 121 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, on the roster for game day, would it be, 122 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: you know, an ideal world, two actual returners or would 123 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: you prefer running backs? 124 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 3: Would you like both? You know, want to beats? 125 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: Like what what would be your your preference to that? 126 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, so in terms of the returner position, yeah, yeah, 127 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: in terms of the returner position, I think on the 128 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: forefront of everything is always good decision making and catch mechanics. 129 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: And to me, that's where I don't necessarily get into 130 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 2: want a running back there for sure, or I want 131 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: a receiver there for sure, Like I look at whoever 132 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: has the best catch mechanics and decision making. If it's 133 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 2: all equivalent, then obviously you want the guys with the 134 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: best run skill. But you know, as you look across 135 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: the league, it's very unique because some guys are using 136 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 2: a lot more running backs, some guys are using more receivers, 137 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: And it depends on who you surround them with too, 138 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: you know, So the scheme, does it future more of 139 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: a running back body, does it future more of a 140 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: receiver body? And then also just playing into the catch 141 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: mechanics and decision making, it's what suits that returner. Well, 142 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 2: you know, just being in this league and you know, 143 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: designing these returns, you're like, Okay, this suits this return 144 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: or better, this suits this return or better, or this 145 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: returner can. 146 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 3: Do both returns. 147 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: You know, it all depends on the schematics and all that. 148 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: And I think you're seeing that across the league as well. 149 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: I just actually that the way it worked out, it 150 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: just kind of is returner running back. 151 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was wondering if that was a preference for you. 152 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: No, it wasn't necessarily a preference, you know. I just 153 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: I think we've we've had the luxury of our running 154 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: backs having good ball skills, you know, and that's been 155 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: a big component of why they could be back there. 156 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: And again, like I always assimilate the the what running 157 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: backs are asked to do is be able to diagnose blocks, 158 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: be able to set up blocks on offense, right, and 159 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: then you see the same attribute show up on kickoff 160 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: return as well. And it's it's the other thing is 161 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: you see receivers sometimes when they've had a running back background, 162 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: whether it be in college or high school, like that 163 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: vision still shows up, you know. 164 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: So you know the versatility of those guys has been 165 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: great