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Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 1: You know, it was so depressing about last week's show,

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Speaker 1: was what you just said to me? You went home? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm so sad about it. I went to my twelve

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Speaker 1: year old, my nine year old, and my five year

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Speaker 1: old was the five year old. I just nine. I

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Speaker 1: was like, guess who I just talked to. They're like

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Speaker 1: I was like, Shaia Twain and they're like, that hurts

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Speaker 1: my heart. It's just because we're old. We are young.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think they like with my parents generation,

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Speaker 1: like if they were like James Taylor, I'd be like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: James Taylor is amazing. Do you know, like Richard Marks,

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Speaker 1: Like hello, love Richard Marks. But I don't know if

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Speaker 1: everyone I don't know that's still a little older than us,

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Speaker 1: really right, I think it is Richard. I mean I

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Speaker 1: know who they are, but what everybody our age don't know.

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Speaker 1: It was just sad. I was like, you know, from

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Speaker 1: like the nineties, oh wait, oh wait, you weren't even

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Speaker 1: anyway that was excited. Um. The Memorial Day weekend was

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Speaker 1: a good time. We had a little pool party. I

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Speaker 1: got a little sad. It's hard being the single girl

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Speaker 1: around like husband and wives. You know, it's kind of like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I get that this is this is nice. But then

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Speaker 1: at the same time I had your husband grilling, I

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Speaker 1: had Sais husband picking up dog poop with some plastic bags.

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Speaker 1: So it was like my rental husband's. But no, it

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Speaker 1: did like I got into a weird funk, which I

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Speaker 1: started to feel bad about because I'm like, this Memorial Day,

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Speaker 1: people have died today, and yet I'm in a funk

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Speaker 1: because I'm lonely and like sad that I don't have

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Speaker 1: someone with me. Well, I think that's okay. And I

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Speaker 1: think that especially for someone like you that just loves

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Speaker 1: couple of things. I love couple of things, a couple

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Speaker 1: of nights, a couple of this intentional nights, Like I'm

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Speaker 1: a couple of person. It's going to be hard, which

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even think I saw my husband

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Speaker 1: yesterday because he grilled the whole time. So like, but

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Speaker 1: I'm also not you know, but I get it. I

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Speaker 1: knew you were a little I could tell. It just

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Speaker 1: makes me sad and not And here's the deal, Like

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Speaker 1: even at parties before I like when someone checks in

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Speaker 1: with me, like I don't I don't want the person

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Speaker 1: like hanging on my side the ensure time, but I

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Speaker 1: like it check in. I like someone to be like,

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Speaker 1: come and grab you a little bit, like that's just me,

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Speaker 1: Like I want that, and I never got that, so

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Speaker 1: like I'm the same time part I'm kind of like,

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Speaker 1: it's not like I really had that anyways, but it's

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Speaker 1: still like knowing that, Yeah, I could write, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean I get it. I do get it, but at

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Speaker 1: least with like that group, like the guys are kind

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Speaker 1: of like your brother's so it's kind of like, but

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Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, speaking of brothers, I fight. I

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Speaker 1: fought like brother and sister with my next guest, and

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Speaker 1: that would be the one and only Glove seven Schenko Glove.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually really excited to have Glab on the show

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Speaker 1: because he was my Dancing with the Stars partner and

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Speaker 1: he's never come on the show, and I'm just excited

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Speaker 1: to talk to him because obviously he's going through life

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Speaker 1: changes as well, and I think, um, he's in the

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Speaker 1: waiting room. But I have to just have to let

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Speaker 1: Catherine tell this story of like not the first time

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Speaker 1: you met club, but what was happening? Where are we

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Speaker 1: at That's what I was going to ask you. I

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Speaker 1: think there's New York. Were we in New York? No, No,

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Speaker 1: we couldn't have been in New York because it's New

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Speaker 1: York first, and this was at least a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: And surely this dance, Oh yeah, this dance was like

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Speaker 1: the like the fifth last dance I did. Why were

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Speaker 1: we We were some in some hotel take it away?

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Speaker 1: Oh god. Um. I don't think it's like vague to me,

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Speaker 1: but I just remember we were somewhere at a hotel

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Speaker 1: and I had my own I mean obviously, you know,

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Speaker 1: I had my hotel room, you had your hotel room, whatever.

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Speaker 1: But somehow I think it was your hotel room. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Somehow we end up in my hotel room.

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Speaker 1: And they have to practice their dance, you know, and

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Speaker 1: they have like certain hours and they do all that,

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Speaker 1: you know, they go to the studios or whatever. But

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Speaker 1: they needed like a few minutes to just practice their dance.

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Speaker 1: We needed a bed, oh yeah, because the whole routine

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Speaker 1: was about being in a bed. So I'm like, it

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Speaker 1: was hard to do it on the floor because we

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Speaker 1: need an actual bed. So I'm like, so we go

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Speaker 1: to the and I make you come because I'm like

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Speaker 1: you know, like, so I made you like be there.

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Speaker 1: That's what it was. But it was like a sweet

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Speaker 1: So I just remember that it was like a separate,

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Speaker 1: separate bedroom and I was in like the living room

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Speaker 1: part of it while y'all like practice for a little while.

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Speaker 1: You're like you just stay in there for a little bit,

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Speaker 1: like like just trust me, Like just stay in there

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Speaker 1: for a little while. And then you're like hey, So

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Speaker 1: it's like what are they doing? And so then you're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: come here, come watch for a minute. And it was

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Speaker 1: the bedroom scene dance which everybody remembers, the shower scene,

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Speaker 1: the showers of the shower. It was in a bedroom.

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Speaker 1: Now start in the bed and then like we roll around.

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Speaker 1: Is that I came in there and they proceeded and me,

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Speaker 1: I'm so awkward anyway, especially with like physical talk. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I don't ever try to hold Catherine, say

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Speaker 1: just a guy. So I'll look in and they're literally

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Speaker 1: rolling around on the bed and I've never been more uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: And literally, anytime I think of Glad, that's all I

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Speaker 1: think about. Yes, terrible. Well, let's bring him in high glad.

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Speaker 1: How are you do you remember Catherine? Hi? Remember Hi?

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Speaker 1: Good morning? How are you doing good? How are you?

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Speaker 1: So we were just talking about I wonder if he

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Speaker 1: remembers I mean, do you remember when we did the

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Speaker 1: shower dance and we need it? Who can forget a

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Speaker 1: shower dance? I know he remembers that, right, But remember

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Speaker 1: when we because the beginning of that dance, we were

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Speaker 1: in a bed and we're like, we need a bed.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, well, let's go to the hotel room.

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Speaker 1: And then I had Catherine and I think tarn was

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Speaker 1: there too. Someone else not in that Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: like a several people there. I remember in my mind

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Speaker 1: I was the only one. But I just remember like,

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Speaker 1: first of all, okay, there, I have like so much

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Speaker 1: to talk to you about. Let's just start with that dance. Though,

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Speaker 1: Um that was like I I was even uncomfortable and

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Speaker 1: I'm like a pretty you know you know, but like

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Speaker 1: that dance in the bed was like like sexy. Well listen,

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Speaker 1: the original idea was I wanted you to start with

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Speaker 1: two other guys, right, and they did not approve that

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Speaker 1: because they the show and whatever. So I was like, Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: how can we can make it work. We'll just put

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Speaker 1: you alone in the bed, and but it was, it worked,

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Speaker 1: It worked out perfectly. It was great. Oh my god, glad.

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Speaker 1: I totally forgot that you wanted two other guys. And

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Speaker 1: I remember being like, I'm so uncomfortable that this is

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Speaker 1: the show that my dad is coming to. I actually

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Speaker 1: have a video from a rehearsal somewhere because I didn't

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Speaker 1: have two guys, I had three different girls were like

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Speaker 1: doing it and I'm like trying to portograph choreograph on them,

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Speaker 1: you know, So I have this video of them doing

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Speaker 1: the thing. It was. It was. It was thank god

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Speaker 1: we didn't use that because it was it would have

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Speaker 1: been terrible. Thank god. No. Yeah, I mean, I'm just

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that it ended up the way that it did.

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Speaker 1: But I do have to say like the fact that

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Speaker 1: my father was in the audience at that dance, like

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Speaker 1: you know, we did like the cute little like jive

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Speaker 1: and we did this, that and the other, and it's

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Speaker 1: like that's the one that he sees like like would

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Speaker 1: on the line when it says, come on, give me

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Speaker 1: a taste, Like I still I still to this day, like,

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Speaker 1: can't watch that dance because I'm like, oh my god, like,

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Speaker 1: how did av see approve that? I know, it was crazy,

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Speaker 1: but it was crazy. It was crazy good. I wish

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Speaker 1: we could have done actually that dance as a freestyle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it would have been so like epic and so sick.

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Speaker 1: But I mean we did get our first four tents,

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Speaker 1: and Pitbull even gave us. And I remember I was

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Speaker 1: We finished on the show and like in my head,

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Speaker 1: like I already started chotographing the next dance because I

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Speaker 1: And you we got a first dance and you were like,

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Speaker 1: celebrate what? Remember that? I was like, I want to celebrate.

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Speaker 1: We got on first hand, and I was like so

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Speaker 1: caught up in the next thing. I was like, nah,

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Speaker 1: let's just keep pushing. And that's when we were like

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Speaker 1: I had a little, a little not a fight, but

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Speaker 1: it was like what no, we definitely we had our

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Speaker 1: first fight after that those four tents. Remember it was

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Speaker 1: the next dance. It was like the oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: hated it to my core, like hated it, hated it.

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Speaker 1: And we had to rehearse that. You were on tour

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Speaker 1: had literally nothing, no windows, it was darker. It's just bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember we so and I've said again what did

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Speaker 1: you do? Then the stars again? You know, wait, would

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Speaker 1: you be my would you be my partner? Or or no?

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Speaker 1: I know maybe we'll pair you with Alan. Um, I

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Speaker 1: would do it one of you're my partner, okay, no

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Speaker 1: nobody else Alan, now nope, no, no, because we we

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Speaker 1: deserve a do over. Okay because you got sick? Yeah

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Speaker 1: the last um you draw at me on the on

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Speaker 1: the finale, it was the worst. Like we were we

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Speaker 1: were in the top obviously, what did we make it?

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Speaker 1: We're top four? But then it's like I screwed so bad?

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Speaker 1: Like could you write like I got sick like really

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Speaker 1: the week before and I also got injured. Remember how

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Speaker 1: like you who did you rehearse with Alan? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you flew to New York with Alan to rehearse some

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Speaker 1: kind of dance, and I mean also, it was so

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Speaker 1: exhausting for you because you were on tour. You just

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Speaker 1: had Jolie literally like six months before you're like looking

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Speaker 1: after a baby. You were doing dancing all the stars. What.

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Speaker 1: I cannot have imagine how you did all of that

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Speaker 1: at the same time I was separated from you. Were

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Speaker 1: hurt too for like a while, yeah, like really bad

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Speaker 1: second week, we remember, we were up in the red

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Speaker 1: what is that called the Kissing Red Room, and he

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Speaker 1: was like showing me something and I just I mean,

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Speaker 1: I my innercostal muscles or whatever. I basically tore them.

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Speaker 1: was injured and it hurts. I can't that I can

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Speaker 1: leave you remember all of that, because I actually I remember,

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Speaker 1: but I didn't know that you actually didn't remember all

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Speaker 1: of that very vivid memories of my dancing with the

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Speaker 1: stars dive. Um, yeah no, but I I have I

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Speaker 1: feel like I have to like take back something that

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Speaker 1: I've said, because I've I've said that you were mean before.

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Speaker 1: don't know, because well we'll figure that out. For you.

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00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: It really depends you can be here's the thing, Like

426
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: you can be an amazing dancer where you can be

427
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: very like flat of no personality, you know what I mean.

428
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,479
Speaker 1: You can have a huge personality and really dancer. You

429
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: can be kind of like, you know, dancer but teachable

430
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: and likable and famous with great personality that you know.

431
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: So it's like a balance of everything. So the perfect

432
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: personally who can win? Got it. It's funny that, like

433
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: every time Glob gets a new partner, I secretly get

434
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: like kind of jealous because I'm like, because it's such

435
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 1: a fun experience, Like even through all the ups and

436
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 1: downs we had, like it was still such a fun

437
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: experience and like to be able to do something that

438
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: was so out of my comfort zone. But yeah, I

439
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: do I always get a little like, uh, like because

440
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to go back and do it. Um.

441
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: But I will say, you know, throughout the years, you know,

442
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 1: we haven't stayed in like in touch a lot, but

443
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: I will say I I greatly appreciated, Um, you reached

444
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: out to me when you heard about my break or

445
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: my my breakup, and it's just like you've been You've

446
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: been so sweet and kind like through through it and

447
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: because you know you've walked the same path, and I

448
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: just I really appreciate you reaching out and you know,

449
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: just kind of helping me, um with with you know, questions,

450
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: because I was asking him one time, like how do

451
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: you do it? Like how do you like? How do

452
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: you co parent? Like when you're angry? And how do

453
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: you like because you're you're going through that. So I

454
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: just appreciate all the support that you've you've shown me. Yeah,

455
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: it's life. You know, life happens, and we just keep moving.

456
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta keep moving. You just gotta do

457
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 1: what's best for you. Um. You know, in my situation,

458
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: we I love Elaine, I respect I have huge respect

459
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: to her. Um. Of course she's the mother of my kids,

460
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, UM, it's hard at

461
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: times because you know, no one's perfect and there's always

462
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: but you have to communicate. There's a conversation, you know. Um,

463
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: when it's in the early stage, I feel like it's

464
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: really hard to do because you can't really stand each other,

465
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You're like, I don't want

466
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: to see your ass at all. But because you have kids,

467
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: and like you know, we we just decided that we're

468
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: not going to speak about like anything, nothing negative in

469
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 1: front of the kids. You know, regardless of what's going on.

470
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,239
Speaker 1: We can have an appointment with a lawyer and the

471
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: mediator and have a huge, massive fight in the morning,

472
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: But when we're together with kids, like you know, I

473
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: pick up a living from school and I take her

474
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: to a dance studio, and I see her in a

475
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: dance studio, we're cool, you know what I mean. We laugh,

476
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: like I get her flowers from Mother's Day things like that,

477
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean That I want to show

478
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: my girls that how that should treat their mom, which

479
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: is really important to me, you know, because they should

480
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: know that how they should be treated in the future,

481
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, so that's important and

482
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: everything else. You know, it is what it is. Do

483
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: you feel that you're kind of on the other side

484
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: of it now, Like do you are you Are you happier?

485
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: Do you feel lighter? Like do you feel like you

486
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:28,959
Speaker 1: made the right choice? I mean, here's the thing, Um,

487
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: it's not about making the right choice, do you know

488
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: what I mean? It just it just happens. Whatever supposed

489
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: to happen happens. So It's not like, you know, like

490
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: one day you wake up and you're like, Okay, I

491
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: don't want to be with this person anymore. That's it, right,

492
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: It's kind of like it gradually. It's it's you know,

493
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: a long time coming, you know. So there's like a

494
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 1: lot of issues that we were going through try to

495
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: make it work. There's several times like broke up and

496
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: live separately for a little bit and tried to make

497
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: it work. I tried my best to make it work.

498
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: She tried for best to make it work. There are

499
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: certain things like when they're like I don't know, like

500
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: when the energy is not there, there's no there's really

501
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: nothing really just kids holding you together. So that's that

502
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: becomes the end. I'm curious to like on dating, because

503
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: you know, it looked like you had moved on quite

504
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: fast after the breakup, you know, and we were just

505
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: having this conversation where it's like she asked me, like

506
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: when would I want to start dating? By the way, no,

507
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 1: I know, not now, but like you you know, use

508
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: some girl went to Camba with you and like you

509
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: were guys were like, you know whatever, and so Katherine

510
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: was asking, She's like, when are you going to start

511
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: doing and I'm like, I feel like there's this like

512
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: timeline that like we're supposed to you know, not move

513
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: fast into relationship or not you know, go to the

514
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: next one. But at the same time, it's like if

515
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: you meet someone, then it's like why would why would

516
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,239
Speaker 1: I push out a beautiful person in my life just

517
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: because the timeline says that I should probably take more

518
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: time or that I shouldn't move too faster. Where where

519
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: like your thoughts on dating and kind of moving on? Um,

520
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: how was Miami? By the way, it was so fun.

521
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: Nothing happened, but it was so fun. So I mean

522
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: that's listen, here's the thing. You see, Like you went

523
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: to Miami, you took your time just for yourself to

524
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: enjoy your friends, with your girls, have fun, like sometimes

525
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: you even need to date anyone and just have a

526
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: good time. It's all about the energy surrounding yourself with

527
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: the people you want to be with, you know, and

528
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: having that like recharge yourself, like find yourself back, like

529
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: have that you know, wake up in the morning and

530
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: be excited about life, you know, and have your way

531
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: of doing things, not like you know, someone tells you

532
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: that you have to do this and Okay, of fine,

533
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: because you don't want to make this person upset or something,

534
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Um, dating if it comes,

535
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: it comes, if it's not like it's not so it's

536
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: not like you wanna go and like, oh now I

537
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: need to date. No, you know, you just I don't know,

538
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: Like I don't have we actually thought of it. Um,

539
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: the cowboy thing, Um, it was just a good times

540
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: a little bit. And you know, well listen, here's the thing.

541
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: I tell you this. When you're married for fifteen years,

542
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: and you were married for fifteen years, I was married

543
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: for fifteen years, there's a lot of spouses support right there. Yeah,

544
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: well you know it. Come on, we're like man to

545
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: man speaking like, Yeah, that one's I'm not ready to

546
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: talk about that one. And I'm still it's a little

547
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: bitter about that one. Yeah, but anyway, so listen, cowboys beautiful.

548
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: But I want to go to Tuloom next time. I've

549
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: never been to Tuloom. Let's go. That's friends, friends, like true,

550
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: they just took that one and ran with it, levenge

551
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: and and go to because I had so we just

552
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: but I mean, listen, what's wrong with that? Friends? Yeah,

553
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: we've danced on the show for four months. We've stayed

554
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: in touch, like what's right, Like when you're in the

555
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: l A, let's go to dinner, And I would love

556
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: to go to dinner. Yeah, no, I would love to.

557
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to be there like a week or so,

558
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: so yeah, I would love to see you. And you know,

559
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm curious to, um, what are you? Like, what are

560
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: you doing now? So that the show starts in fall

561
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: right this year? Yeah? Okay, so and are you for

562
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: sure going back? Well I wish I want to, of course,

563
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: but we don't know until the very last moment, you

564
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 1: know how they pick up grows until like literally two

565
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: days before we have to start rehearsals, like we have

566
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: no idea who we're going to be dancing with, and

567
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: like our partners will all get stressed and excited. Yeah.

568
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm excited for it. It's an anniversary season

569
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: season thirty. Oh that sounds fussy. They should have done

570
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: like a like an All Star for thirty. Well here's

571
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: the thing. If you go back in the All Stars,

572
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: like they will never pairs together. Why I don't know,

573
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: because they like to switch it up. See I would

574
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: think people would want to watch. Yeah, the same people

575
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: be partners again. That's why I would watch. I mean,

576
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: we would definitely kill it, like it would be so good.

577
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: What's so, what are you doing then? So if you

578
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: might do the show, obviously you will because you're They

579
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: would be stupid if they didn't have you back on.

580
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: But what what else are you doing? Like are you

581
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: still teaching dancing or I mean this whole COVID thing

582
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: really kind of kill the vibe. With tour, we didn't

583
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: have tours, so we did last season, um with no audience.

584
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: We had to take COVID test every single day, literally

585
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: every single day, no Saturday, Sunday. Um, and we're supposed

586
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: to go in through. We usually after the season we'll

587
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: go on tour for about three and a half months

588
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: and um, this time we didn't go. So I start,

589
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: I had to do something, you know, I gotta hustle.

590
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: I still gotta you know, dance and teach and you know, perform.

591
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: So Um, I've been teaching a lot of online lessons. Um,

592
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm teaching. There's new really cool spot in Malibu called

593
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: Roughs Lounge. I'm doing every Saturday saws the classes there,

594
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: which is still fine. There's a lot of people, Um,

595
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: and it's just survive. You know. It's a cool vibe.

596
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: It's outside, it's right looking over the ocean, right across

597
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: from Nobu. Just it's super like I really enjoy it. Um,

598
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: So when you're in the LA, we should do that. Yeah,

599
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: I should do that in l A. That would be

600
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: so fun, actually said Saturday's Saturdays. Yeah, you can give

601
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: us all the lessons you can. I have a private

602
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: lesson private tonight. But looking over the beach. Please yeah,

603
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure after being spoused to support, you'll do that. Yeah,

604
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: I'll for free for you all do for free. It

605
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: would just be fun to like dance again, you know,

606
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: like I it's a good workout like that would just

607
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: be that would be really cool because I I really

608
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: did enjoy it. If there's one thing that you've learned

609
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: throughout your divorce, everything with the kids and justum, Elena,

610
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: what's what's one thing that like you want to do

611
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: better at and as a person for the next time

612
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: the next go around. Uh, listen, the thing is my

613
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: kids out priority for me. They're everything, you know. I

614
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: feel like, Um, when I worked and there was in

615
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: the season and I was doing tour, we lived together,

616
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: we always had like live in nanny with us, and

617
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: you know, her mom would come in out. I would

618
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 1: spend less time with kids, and then I spend now

619
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: and we're splitting custody with her, so there are five

620
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: days with me and five days with her. Um. I

621
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: would want to be more present for them, you know

622
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: what I mean, just be even though I was present,

623
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: but I would love still too obviously, like besides work,

624
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: like do fun stuff with them more so instead of

625
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: like just you know, nanny's taking care of them, like

626
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: I would do it myself even though I did it.

627
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm saying this, Like I just

628
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: like it's good, it's enough, but up, I wish I

629
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: could do more. It's just like it's always not enough

630
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: when I like with with my girls, like I feel

631
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: like I want to be with them a little bit more,

632
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: you know. No, that makes sense for sure, but you're

633
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: also providing for them too, So it's that balance you

634
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: have to walk, which also like I would take And

635
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: here's the thing that I think this is really important.

636
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: I would take more holidays together, you know, even without kids,

637
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: just you know, with like like I don't know, like

638
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: l A and like if I if I speak back right,

639
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: Like with her, I would go more like just take

640
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: our time together, like go to like romantic dinners and

641
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: like go um, you know, holidays, just two of us,

642
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: do something fun stuff like do like some crazy activities

643
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: like go and take a road trip, just two of us.

644
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: You know, if you have a chance to have kids

645
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: with someone and they you know they've been looked after,

646
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: like do stuff fun stuff for for yourself because sometimes

647
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: like you get caught up and work so much and

648
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: you don't spend time together and you kind of stop

649
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: losing that you know that's fun, Like you still have

650
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: to have fun together. Yeah, this is I don't know

651
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: why I started thinking about this when you were talking.

652
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: But for your next relationship, next serious relationship, would you

653
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: are you done having kids or would you have more?

654
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: I would have more? You would, yeah, because I was

655
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: because I was talking with the girls and they were like,

656
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, well what if you know, and They're like, well,

657
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: what if do you want more kids? And I'm like,

658
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: oh my god, I've just never like I've never had

659
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: to think of that conversation or have that Like I

660
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: never thought I would have to have that conversation again.

661
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: So I mean obviously I'm not kids. I don't know,

662
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: Like I don't. I'm old, I'm having miscarriages, you know,

663
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: Like I don't, but you know, like I know, we

664
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: talked about this last week, but I just I don't know.

665
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: I just I don't think. I don't. I don't know.

666
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: Maybe if I met the one and you know, but again,

667
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm mean to have a kid. I mean I feel

668
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: like it's I mean, it's not easy, but it's kind

669
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: of easy, right, But to actually be with the you know,

670
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: with the kid and be a good parent and like

671
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: commit and like you know, just spend all of your

672
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: time with that person. Just it's really important to me,

673
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: you know, So like if I wouldn't be able to

674
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: do that, like if I'm working and I'm like busy,

675
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: Like what's the point of it, you know what I mean?

676
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: I really want to experience that. I really want to

677
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: enjoy that moment. I think that's important for sure. If

678
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 1: there's anything I was one thing that I would love

679
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: to experience is like I've never been able to like

680
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: whenever I found out I was pregnant, there was always

681
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: like something happening or like in my relationship. So it

682
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: would be nice to experience it in a healthy and

683
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: happy way and like celebrate it and not be like,

684
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 1: oh my god, you know, like because I was happy,

685
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: but like there was always something behind the scenes that

686
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know about or I had just found out about.

687
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: So it would it would be nice to not have

688
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: any of that energy and just be like we're pregnant,

689
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: like like what you're supposed to feel, you know. So

690
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: I think that would be the only thing. How are

691
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: you feeling? Like goes in waves, you know, Like I'm

692
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm the only thing that gets me is like the

693
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: other night, I was super overwhelmed. I don't have any help.

694
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: Um uh, And you know, the kids only go to

695
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: school twice a week, so the other days I'm in

696
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: Jason's only half days. So it's just it's hard, and

697
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, there's I had a I had a partner

698
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: in this before, and so one of the days, it

699
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: was just a really really really hard day. The kids

700
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: were just being difficult and I had a lot of

701
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: work to do and I only have like a few

702
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: hours during that time to get that work done. And

703
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I just started crying

704
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I didn't ask to do this alone.

705
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: You know, like I I wanted my husband. I wanted

706
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: my partner to do this with me like this, this

707
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: doesn't feel good to like feel this frustrated and you know,

708
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: have so much mean, you should see my house. It's

709
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: like it's a mess and it's but it's like I'm

710
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: I only have so much time, and it's I just

711
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: feel like I'm kind of like depleted a little bit,

712
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: and I need to ask for help and and you know,

713
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: do that, but it's it's hard, and I get upset

714
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: because again it's like I didn't want to do this alone,

715
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: Like this isn't what I wanted. I didn't want to

716
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: be a single mom, you know. But it's not that

717
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: I miss him because I'm very happy. I'm like how

718
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: you guys co parenting, I'm trying to keep the distance

719
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: because I just think it's better for us with less communication,

720
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: So putting the kids first and trying to keep because

721
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: you know, like you said in the very beginning, there's

722
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: a lot of emotions and it's very hard to uh

723
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: be the bigger person when the person that hurt you

724
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: is not nice. So I just now know what I

725
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: need to do now and just I'm just distancing myself

726
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: and you know, we're I'm doing I'm I'm doing my

727
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: partner being nice and that's all I can control. And

728
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm just less communication than better right now, right, Yeah,

729
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: but it sucks, you know, but hopefully one day when

730
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: all the emotions wear off and you know, we can

731
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: be friendly. Right But because I wish, Like I look

732
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: at some couples and I'm like, they're like going on

733
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: vacation together. I don't. I don't want that, but like,

734
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: but at the same time, that's kind of cool. You know,

735
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: maybe who knows, Like, let's try to be adults and

736
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: just get along. Yeah, you know, I love I should

737
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: take some time probably right, But I appreciate your friendship.

738
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, and um, I'm excited to see you

739
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: in l A for a little tango and lunching lunch.

740
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: I'm down for it. Thank you for coming on wind Down.

741
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: Where can our listeners find you? Um, you guys can

742
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: find me on Instagram, Glibs of Chink Official, g l

743
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: eb suf Chin. You can find me on Twitter, um

744
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: gleab underscores Uchenko and where else you can find me. Malibu.

745
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: What's the Malibu classes? Yeah, you can find me Malibu

746
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: Roughs Lounge just Rops Lounge, right across from Noble every

747
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: Saturday at the eleven the m I love it. Okay,

748
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: thank you, I will one of the weekends I'm not

749
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: with the kids. I'll come okay, okay, so much love

750
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: to you, and um, I'll see you at the All

751
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: Stars Okay by glob h. We're friends again. I know,

752
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: we've been friends for all He's so sweet. It's just yeah,

753
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: he's he's a sweetheart. It's so crazy. They're like, how

754
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: our lives are changing around the same time. How long

755
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: has it been for him? Probably like six months? Maybe, yeah,

756
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: it was when it was when the Last Dancing Stars

757
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: Chris was his partner, and then they're the whole headlines

758
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 1: about them. But there's a couple of months ahead of you, okay,

759
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: a couple of months ahead, which it really didn't mean

760
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: a lot when he reached out, because yeah, it's I

761
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: will say. There's one person, a freend. Well, she was

762
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: actually a really good friend. We're not really friends anymore.

763
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: Actually haven't talked at all. But you realize who your

764
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: friends are when you go through that. Because I didn't

765
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: hear one word from that friend that still blows my mind.

766
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: Not one word, like I heard from people that don't

767
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: even know you, just checking on you. Yeah, like every

768
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: and even like Taryn, my hair makeup lady, like she

769
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: was like I had friends texting me. I know, so

770
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: I know she knows, like she's in the industry. She knows,

771
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: but it's like, how like yeah, so that that kind

772
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: of hurts my feelings. And I've yet too, because at

773
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 1: this point I'm like, I don't need like it doesn't

774
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 1: make sense. It's still hurtful. It's hurtful. Yeah, it's definitely

775
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: hurtful because I would reach out and it's like a

776
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: good gleb and I aren't like besties, but like, you know,

777
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: he reached out. Like it's just so many people reach out.

778
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: Nice to know that people care, and then you realize

779
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: that people that don't really care, well you're better off.

780
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: Well that was a really good episode. Thanks Catherine for

781
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: coming on and reminiscing about the bedroom scene. Oh my gosh,

782
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: so many memories from that time. Oh that was fun.

783
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,479
Speaker 1: That was really fun. I'm gonna try to post some

784
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: old videos from Dancing with the Stars because yeah, you know,

785
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: like I don't know, I miss it so that'll be like,

786
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: I'll put some stuff on my page, um um, and

787
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: we should go to Tuloom just like a big fun everybody.

788
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: Let's all go, let's all go, book your tickets. Wind

789
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: down crew, See you guys next week