WEBVTT - The Write Stuff with Jenny Bicks... (S1 E8 "Three's A Crowd") 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:04.880 Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:10.200 you a Charlotte? We're back to Are You a Charlotte 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:15.240 with an incredible guest, the one and only Jenny Becksia. 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:17.639 Thank you for having me. It's my pleasure. We're gonna 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:21.119 rewatch your very first episode that you wrote for Sex 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:23.800 and the City. It is episode one oh eight three. 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:27.480 Is a crowd an incredible episode written by you, directed 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.920 by the also incredible Nicole Hall of Center. So I 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.479 love this episode. I really didn't have a lot of 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:36.320 memories of this episode. I was like, what on earth 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:40.199 is happening? It's a bold first episode, Jenny. It's bold, 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:40.920 it is. 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:44.400 It was bold, and yet it was you know, it 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:45.800 was of the time. 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.720 Oh my gosh, what so of the time. And I 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.159 mean we did touch on this briefly amongst ourselves, but 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.240 to me, it's the first time that the theme is 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:57.320 really run through all the characters in such a great, 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:57.880 great way. 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.160 Yeah, it's such a magical thing when you find and 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:04.959 kind of a sexual thing that also ties into exactly 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:07.200 what your characters might be going through at the moment. 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:09.640 And we had, you know, Carrie and Big were at 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:13.040 this point in their relationship where they were getting more serious, 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.400 and suddenly she learns about the ex wife, the other 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.760 third person, and so we're dealing with that at the 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:21.880 same time that Charlotte is dealing with the fact that 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:26.280 the man that she's betting or he's betting her. We 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:27.880 would never have used words like that. By the way, 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:32.520 betting wants to have a threesome. That's a fantasy, right, 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:34.959 and she's thinking about it. 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:39.120 I know it that crazy shirlt Oh my god. And 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:44.080 also just side note, we have Lisa Emory right, incredibly incredible. 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.640 You all might know from Ozark, where she played a 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.400 very terrifying character. Yes, and in our episode here, she's 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.960 a sweet wife who gets cheated, all know, she gets 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.760 cuckolded and you feel so bad for her. But she's 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:58.920 very open and she's like, maybe if this would keep 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.120 my husband happy, we can have a threesome. And Samantha 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:04.600 is not having it. She's the guest star. She's the 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.360 guest star. So that this is a big part of 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:08.800 the theme that I want to talk about. We can 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:11.600 go see by scene, but also just thematically. When I 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:14.200 was watching it, because I didn't remember a lot of it, right, 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.840 Like I told you, already, but when when Charlotte does 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:20.760 seem like she might be going to have a threesome 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.959 with these people in a very romantic and beautifully lit scene. 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.520 I had a panic when I was watching this in 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.720 my bed last night, thinking why don't I remember kissing 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.519 these two people at the same time? Oh my god, 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.800 am I about to see what are going to do? 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:38.840 And it wasn't fact a dream it was. It wasn't 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.240 just like, how could I have blocked that out or whatever, 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:44.280 because I've never had that an you had your top off? 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:47.480 I did? How about that? And I can one tell 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.359 that I am in a panic because I stepped very 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:54.600 gingerly forward, which I know I'm just trying to be 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:57.840 right on my busk so that nobody cards are showing. 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.880 And then I very gingerly reached my hands out like 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.800 in a really odd way, and they take my hands. 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:09.320 I can so feel the nerves radiating takes such guts 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:13.040 well too, And I'm curious if you what your thoughts are. 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.720 What I remember, especially from the very beginning, was that 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.840 we all as a group, and I can't speak for everyone, 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:24.639 but we didn't know what was right or wrong for 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.360 us to show because we didn't really know what show 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.000 we were on, right, And do you remember that show 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.840 dream On that was on HBO where literally every episode 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:34.760 some random woman just shows her breast, right, We didn't 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.040 want to be that, right. We wanted to be like 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:40.000 for women, like for women to watch from the female gaze, 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.640 not like titillating. But also we are talking about sex, 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:45.720 and we didn't want to be fake. I mean, it 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:47.000 was a very awful it was. 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:50.440 It was a fine line, yeah, And I think I 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:54.440 think what's great is because because we didn't show a 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:59.240 ton of nudity. Honestly, it was true to who what 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.240 the show was, right, right, which was we're not we're 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:05.160 not real sex on HBO. Now we're a show that 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.000 we're we're talking about it, but you but showing a 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.839 boob just for fun is not the reason people. People 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.040 aren't watching it to hope to catch a sight of 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:16.280 you know, full frontal nudity, right right, right, right, So 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.320 if they were, they were disappointed, exactly. 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.400 And so if it was appropriate for the scene, you know, 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:23.080 it's been a little bit like like there was a 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.040 scene in the last word I want to say where 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:26.600 you see a little bit of my side boom and 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.400 I'm like, oh my god, I didn't even remember this, right, 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.240 Oh my god. I mean, of course, now you're like, 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:32.040 it's like my thing people. 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.600 Which was an episode I wrote you you did it. 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:40.520 I know you owned it. Thank you. It was challenging. 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.039 But I'll tell you what I liked about that, and 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.360 I also have I mean, there are some times and 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:49.120 I said something earlier in one of the clickbaity situation 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.719 with the press these days is so stressful because you 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:57.440 say things because it's so intimate. Right, of course, I 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.840 did see something because there were some awkward times early on, 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.719 you know, with directors, not with you guys, but like 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:04.440 sometimes in the middle of the night when everyone would 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.720 have gone home, who wasn't in the scene, you know, 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.680 some director would want you to do something and like 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:11.800 even you know, the other actresses weren't there. You could 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:13.320 even go to them and be like help me. And 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.279 I would go log myself in my dressing room and 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.359 call my manager back in LA and be like, help me. 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.479 What do I do? The Mick I remember because we 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.640 had talked about it, you know, for some time, and 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:26.479 it was obviously a very very integral part of the storyline. 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.279 That was a very big important storyline, and because it 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:33.960 wasn't sexual, it's much easier to have some nudity in 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.719 a non sexual way than to in it like a 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.400 spiritual way. But the thing that I remember about that 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:44.960 is that the director and the DP and video village 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:49.159 had been set up because the ad let it happen 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.640 I'm not gonna name right now where I had to 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:56.600 walk and they were smoking cigars what mm. And it 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.400 was like hours because it was the wee wee hours 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:03.039 because took forever to go down to that tie set 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.600 that we'd built, right and I went to this a 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.960 D and I was like, uh, I'm trying to do 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:12.120 something here, like with our feeling self conscious, could you 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:15.520 possibly move all those guys? My god, I'm so sorry. 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:17.880 I know it's crazy back then what went on? Right, 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.440 And this is a show where we had so much power, 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.240 but we didn't have there were no intimacy exactly that 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:25.839 those did not exist in our business. No, And even 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:29.880 in a situation where you theoretically did have so much 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:33.320 power that all that stuff was still able to happen, 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.000 And then you had to be the bad guy and 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:38.400 go and say like they can't smoke their cigars literally 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.279 in my eye line when I did that. Anyone's smoking 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:44.640 a cigar. I'm pretty sure that's ill exactly. No, back 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.479 in the day, they remember on the Silver Cups soundstage, 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:49.320 we'd be there all night Friday night, and like it 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.440 would just be like a cloud of smoke. You know, 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.040 Sarah was smoking because Carrie was supposed to smoke. McGan 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:59.440 was smoking. I mean, so many people right, and you're smoking. 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:04.039 I can't see my mark, you know, I know, the 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:08.760 olden days, olden days. Anyway, back to the episode, but yeah, 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:10.000 a lot of crazy stuff went on. 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:11.680 Well yeah, but also I will say it was a 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.600 beautifully shot. That moment was beautifully shot. 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:19.240 Because it's in Charlotte's mind, right, so it's perfection. But 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.280 you had a romantic perfection. Looked beautiful. Thank you so much. 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:24.160 I'm so happy that I did it, because of course 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:26.880 at the time, you're like so stressed and stress and stressed. 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:28.480 Now you're like, oh my god, I should have just 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:34.120 been running through the town with my shirt. No, and 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:38.280 that's what we call clickbait. I know, ladies sometimes think that. 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.520 I do sometimes think that, but I remember having a 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:41.600 lot of stress about it. 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:43.480 No, but I do think the other thing and Michael 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:45.960 talks about this a lot too, is that we always 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.680 wanted the sex to be almost like we never wanted 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:53.360 to be like like, oh, we're shooting a like a 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:57.200 soft porn like Red Diary kind of situation, right. But 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.840 I will say the music choices in my episode there 0:07:59.920 --> 0:08:04.200 was like this jazzy kind of sex and music when 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.560 you're in bed with your boyfriend. I'm like, we would 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.200 never have done that after season one, for sure, we 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:12.120 would not. We would have counterpointed it more well. 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.880 I think that's what was confusing about being an actress 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:18.400 in season one too, was because we didn't really know, right. 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.280 We weren't really sure what the tone was, right, so 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.520 we weren't really sure in the acting of it also, 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:25.920 and then sometimes we weren't around when the others were 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.560 doing their sex scenes, right, so, or their romantic scenes 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:30.720 or whatever it was, so we didn't know what they 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:32.920 were doing what I'm saying, So there was like this 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:36.000 kind of like checking in, like what what do you guys, 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:37.679 what do you think? What do you what are you doing? 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:40.120 Because like Cynthia, you know her, she's like I don't care, 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.840 you know, but she still hasn't there's she hasn't shown 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.200 much or whatever. And then Kim, I think at one 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.480 point already has but it was like kind of a 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:50.680 funny she like had a there's a humor kind of 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:51.200 about it. 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.000 I think as long as there's either like the michpho 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.319 where you're in a situation is non sexual, right, or 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.439 if it's happening, it's for really good reason and your 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:03.560 counterpoint it with something so that it doesn't feel purient exactly. 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.160 But that was the whole key to it, and we 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.040 hadn't really fully gelled on. 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.280 I don't think we knew yeah, because also. 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.840 Not everyone was around all the time to discuss it 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.280 kind of in a thorough way, you know what I mean. 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:15.560 You were just like, what what did that one? Do? 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:20.080 You know? No one really knew, right, But what I 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.320 did watch the threesomething that I thought I was going 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.760 to about to have, I didn't remember, and then I 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:26.320 was like, oh, thank god, I've just dream But I 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:30.319 could literally tell that I'm just like like frozen as 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:32.319 an actress, Like I'm just going to take this tiny 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.480 step and then nothing will show, you know what I mean, 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.480 Like there won't be too much barand and they're alway 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:42.400 side boom. I'm just like just enough stepping, yes exactly. 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.520 But anyway, we digress. But I mean, there's the fun 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.360 things to think about, because I think that the way 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.079 that it developed and the fact that all of us 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:54.080 were there and had the same goal is why it 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.680 worked out and why we felt safe eventually, Like it 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.680 took a little so that we felt unsafe in the 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:00.240 me and we were just weren't sure right, like we 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:00.800 were checking in. 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:02.960 I just didn't know where the lines were exactly, and 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.120 it depended on the director what they wanted to do, 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.640 you know, and sometimes that wasn't necessarily in line with 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.280 what Darren and Michael wanted, you know, and then you 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:15.040 had to call people. Yeahs had to be made help 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.920 hel yes, yes, okay, So I'm basically I'm basically oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.280 I'm meeting the guy at the Benefits all the benefits 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:22.360 of the diseases. 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:26.920 His name is Jack. You know, he's one of many guys. 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:30.160 In the beginning, Charlotte's just trying to figure out if 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.880 she can go with what he wants, and pretty quick 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.000 he seems like he brings up this threesome. I mean, 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.160 I guess we have the montage, so it's like there's 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:40.480 time has passed and I like, I really, this is 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.000 the first time when I'm watching that I feel like 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:49.120 Charlotte's storyline makes sense. Oh really yeah, Like before there's 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:53.360 the artist who paints her, which everyone's like, uh, she 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.480 agreed to this, and for me, I mean, I can 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.160 only assume. I think at the time, I just really 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.560 wanted someone to write a storyline for me, right, And 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:02.880 I was like, I'm going to have to roll with this. 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.280 And then I also think because it's about her gallery, 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:07.560 it's about art. So she's like, I'm going to do 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:09.640 what I have to do because she thinks she's landed 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.760 him as a client and need a big deal, right 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.280 and it's safe up in the woods, and his wife 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.800 was there, you don't, I'm saying, And she likes art. 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.480 She loves art because like when he asks her, one 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:28.600 are your fantasies? Loved it myself so hard. I just authentically, well, 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:32.559 I'd like to own my gallery. One It's like I 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.840 didn't mean that exactly, but then I also said that 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:37.559 I want a house in May, which you do have. 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.640 I do have, which I love that yeah so much. 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.080 So there you go. I love it. Did you want 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.439 that at the time. You know what's interesting. 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.719 So I had spent my summers growing up there, so 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:50.959 my family had a house there. But I think I 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:52.600 always imagined I would have my own house. 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:53.040 Amazing. 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.160 I didn't then, but now I do. I'm so there 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:58.720 you go, Just like Charlotte, I got certain. 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:02.000 Things Charlotte le dream go somewhere. Maybe Harry didn't share it. 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:03.920 We don't know. We don't know if well, I guess 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.640 we do. I think we would would. I think it 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.680 would come up. She found other Harry didn't. He probably 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:11.440 didn't want to be in Maine. There's a lot of ticks. 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.000 You know. He's got not like the bugs. He doesn't 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:17.240 like the bugs. He really really doesn't. It's still going on. 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:25.000 Okay, back to the show, way back, Okay, So I 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:28.839 have I get to have the thematic storyline, which is fun, 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.480 and I like that there's like a beginning, middle and 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.360 an end, and then also that there's such a great discussion. 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:38.160 Yes, I love that discussion. And so I need some 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.640 clarity though, because sometimes people say things that I'm not 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:44.800 quite sure if I'm hearing correctly, Like basically sam is saying, 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.360 Samantha saying that you don't want to be the guest 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.360 star in the Three Cents. So you do want to 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:51.640 be the guest you don't want to be the guest 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:52.920 star because you don't want connections. 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:54.839 You don't want connections. You don't want to do it 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:56.800 with like a good friend. You want to be like 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:58.960 you want to come in and out enjoy it and 0:12:59.000 --> 0:12:59.680 get the hell out of. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.240 Crazy that Charlotte's like, no, maybe I would want one 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.600 of my friends. But that's so Charlotte. 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:13.360 She's like she would feel safe that way. It was terrible. 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:18.640 If she tried to converse. Terrible, okay, just terrible in 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:21.920 so many ways, Like, oh my god. Anyway, I had 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:23.440 a moment of fear then too, because I was like, 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.840 I don't remember any of this. She's like, we did 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:29.800 try to talk her into it. Oh my god. I 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:33.240 was mortified. Thank god, I do not. But then poor Miranda. 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:39.240 I know, I know, it's so adorable. I remember this 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:39.640 at all. 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:43.280 I know, and I love I really I love how 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:46.480 Cynthia played it through the episode so brilliant, like I'm 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:48.640 going to get to the bottom of this, and I'm 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.880 upset and I'm sorry I wasn't chosen. 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.240 I am not upsetting, I know, and she's got this therapist, 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.760 which like, do you ever see this person again? I 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.000 don't think we did. Oh my god, he's an older 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:01.480 man and he's basically it's like, are you asking to 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:02.160 have a THREESOMEE? 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:02.840 Right? 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.040 It's so weird and funny, and it's such a traditional 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.680 looking therapy office where I'm just like, is this what 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.000 a therapy would look like in nineteen ninety eight in 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:11.760 Manhattan Knows? 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:13.800 It was probably whatever set we had sat that we 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:15.679 could put up two flats, some books and some. 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:29.120 Books totally totally. And then I really love that scene 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.560 what she finds we're out of order, but I don't care, Gus, 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:34.360 we're following her story exactly. We're following Miranda. So when 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:36.920 she finds the couple and they're like, no one really 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:38.920 answers our ad who isn't and they don't want to 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:42.240 say it. Those actors are so great, they are so great, 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:44.920 They are so great, and they're so excited to have Miranda. 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.840 They're so excited that it's Miranda. And Miranda looks just 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:51.280 radiant right every way because she's been chosen. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:53.680 And the way Cynthia walks off at the end with 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:55.880 that kind of Oh good, she launts it with her 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:56.880 shoulders like. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.920 She's owning it. Powerful. I mean, she was powerful for 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.520 the get go. She had to remind her she felt, 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:07.080 you know, I mean, but like even when she's like 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:11.720 her inner strength is so apparent. Oh yeah, and I 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:12.800 love it so much. 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.400 Well, do I remember that I always loved my Miranda, 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.480 Oh which I was so upset when those quizzes would 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.680 come out and everyone's like, I don't like Miranda. 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.960 It's like you, but that's me. I felt kind of 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:24.800 the same. Now. 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.480 Well no, thank god, thank god, thank god. But that 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:30.520 was a very hard you know, it's true. 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:32.960 I mean, people also thought Charlotte was. They would say 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:34.640 that I was boring and that it was a prude, 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:36.680 which is hysterical when you watch it back. 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.600 Hello, Hello, you were not having half the sex that 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:40.160 Charlotte was. 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.360 No, I was definitely no. I don't mean you, I 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:47.320 mean nobody but including myself. We're working on big time 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:50.320 working and I never was that, you know, she was 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:55.320 like out there, wow, in beect Miranda. Love that storyline, 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.680 really really love it so fun. But now help me understand. 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.480 At the dinner where we discussed it, when Charlotte's like, 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:03.920 this guy, once I have a threesome, what should I do? 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:09.360 And so Samantha's saying it's great, but don't be involved. 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:13.520 Be the guys start right, And then Carrie's saying, don't 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:14.480 do it if you don't want to do. 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.840 It right, and then being supportive and saying it's a thing, 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.280 but you don't don't don't feel compelled to do it? 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.360 Got it? And her storyline is more about the emotional 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:27.640 baggage of Big being married before and her knowing it. Yes, now, 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:29.440 can we discuss Big a little bit? 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.200 Let's please, let's because I. 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:35.840 You know, and some of these things made me laugh, 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:40.200 because you know, Charlotte was always pro Big, as we know, yes, 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:44.800 and I never questioned it. I feel that I also 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:48.520 was pro big. I don't remember ever having a thought 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.040 that wasn't pro big. I look back at it now 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:55.520 and the I'm like, why were we pro big? Oh? 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:59.320 It's a mess, yes, But in this I feel like 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.840 I am like the original Big defender? 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:04.840 Are you I do? Well? 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:08.639 I'll tell you why, because what we wanted to play 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:10.840 was and we've all had this person in our lives 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:15.240 at some point, this relationship where it's very the chemistry 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:18.720 is there. You're drawn to this person and they're just 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:23.360 unknowable and ungettable enough to keep you going towards them. 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.320 Well, listen, you guys wrote that perfectly. 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:30.760 Yeah, and Big, I think had he wanted to get 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:34.000 closer to her at certain times and he did right, 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:38.120 And so I think what we did well was portray 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:40.760 that kind of where you've got this banter, you've got 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.760 this kind of chemical desire to be with each other. 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:47.760 It's not necessarily the healthiest, but it wasn't as unhealthy 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:48.679 as I think people. 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:49.200 It was funny. 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.919 I was talking to my niece who's twenty four, and 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:56.119 she said, oh, Big, it's just a toxic bachelor, and 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:58.480 I was like, wow, I think that too. When I 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:01.520 look back, I guess maybe he was. And maybe I 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.199 have a soft spot for the TX. I mean, certainly 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.679 at the time I was dating that kind of we 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:13.040 all were. So I think we were all playing and 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:17.679 it was like dashing and ungettable, like you could almost 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.840 get him and then you couldn't. Yeah, but it's funny. 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.240 When Julia and Elisa came on, they were like, we 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.959 don't get Big, we don't get it, we don't understand it. 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.480 We like aiden, and I was like, this is great, 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:30.520 this is why this works. Well, we can be and 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:34.000 the writers are having that discussion the same way the 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.520 audience will feel and Carrie will feel. 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:40.159 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Well that's good. That's helpful. That's helpful. 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.320 So that was your goal, and you guys really really 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:44.840 did it. Because the other thing that I love about 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.080 it though, is that you know, it's very much from 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:50.360 the female perspective, right, Like we are with Carrie, right, 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:54.440 so you know when Carrie's spinning, you know, I'm also spinning, 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.359 like what is going on with him? And sometimes his 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:00.159 actions don't match his words and she tries to get 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.680 him to talk and he doesn't talk? Why doesn't talk? Mean? 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:07.320 And such a good friend, like Charlotte was a really 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:08.240 good friend. 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.400 She still is, yeah, I. 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:15.840 Mean she she's there for these women at times where 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:16.919 other people might not be. 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:19.440 I mean, I think that's true for all four really 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:22.080 when you think about it. I mean sometimes Miranda does 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.399 actually say to Carrie like that dude is toxic, What 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:27.040 are you doing? Why are you going back? Or whatever? 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.600 You know, she's very's more blunt. She's like I'm going 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:31.240 to tell her what no one else is going to 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:34.480 tell her. And then Samantha is so non judgmental. Do 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:36.239