WEBVTT - Ted Cruz Talks Government Shutdown, No Kings Rallies

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.

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<v Speaker 2>As we now entered days one e yes of this

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<v Speaker 2>government shutdown, with each side still playing the blame game.

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<v Speaker 2>This morning, though, Kevin Hasset, director of the National Economic Council,

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<v Speaker 2>said the White House is going to have to look

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<v Speaker 2>very closely at stronger measures, as he put it, if

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<v Speaker 2>the government shutdown does not end this week. Earlier today,

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<v Speaker 2>we got an inside perspective from Capitol Hill when we

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<v Speaker 2>sat down with Republican Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>chairs the Senate Commerce Committee. Talked about the state of

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<v Speaker 2>the shutdown, the no King's rallies over the weekend, and more.

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<v Speaker 2>Started by asking him if trouble at the nation's airports

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<v Speaker 2>will be the factor that ends this shutdown.

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<v Speaker 3>This shutdown needs to end, and it needs to end now.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to vote today, I think the eleventh or

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<v Speaker 1>twelfth time to reopen the government. The Republicans are all aligned.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to vote to reopen the government. What we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen over and over again is the Democrats keep voting

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the shutdown going.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's irresponsible.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I was at Houston's Hobby Airport a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days ago, I did a press conference there

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<v Speaker 1>where I pointed out they're fifty thousand TSA agents right

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<v Speaker 1>now who are working with no pay. They didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>a full paycheck in the last pay period. They're fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand air traffic controllers who expected to come into work

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<v Speaker 1>but they didn't get a full paycheck.

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<v Speaker 3>And this needs to end.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not right, it's not fair, and I think Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>are holding not only the US government hostage, but holding

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<v Speaker 1>the American people hostage. And we're already seeing delays climbing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got to say, every day this goes on,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we could expect more and more of that.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point the Democrats need to take their Trump

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<v Speaker 1>derangement syndrome and set it aside and let the government open.

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<v Speaker 4>Senator, I do have to say that you just talked

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<v Speaker 4>about Americans who are waiting on this. Some Americans likely

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<v Speaker 4>aren't concerned whether it's the Democrats or the Republicans who

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<v Speaker 4>are responsible so for those or those not getting paychecks.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, what do you say to them after this

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<v Speaker 4>has gone on for so long?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, one of the challenges in terms of predicting

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<v Speaker 1>when this is going to end before you and I

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<v Speaker 1>sat down.

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<v Speaker 3>You asked, all right, when's this going to be over?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, I don't know, because in many ways,

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<v Speaker 1>the two parties are living in parallel worlds. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think for the Democrats they're in an echo chamber where

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<v Speaker 1>they're listening to their left wing radicals.

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<v Speaker 3>Who are happy. Look, last week.

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<v Speaker 1>It was conventional wisdom in the Senate that there was

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<v Speaker 1>no chance the government would reopen last week. Why because

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<v Speaker 1>the so called no King's rallies were going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend, and the Democrats were terrified of reopening the

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<v Speaker 1>government before they saw the radicals. And the phrase I

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<v Speaker 1>kept hearing was that Chuck Schumer was afraid his head

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<v Speaker 1>would be on a pike metaphorically not advocating violence, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was afraid of his own left wing radicals. Right now, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>the way this is going to end is it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to take seven or eight Democrats saying all right, this

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<v Speaker 1>stunt's gone on long enough, let's end it. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason the government has shut down it's a very simple

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<v Speaker 1>question of math. In order to fund the government under

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate.

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<v Speaker 3>Rules, you need sixty votes in the Senate.

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<v Speaker 1>There are only fifty three Republicans, which means we need

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<v Speaker 1>at least seven Democrats. The reason the government is shut

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<v Speaker 1>down right now is the Democrats are voting party line

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<v Speaker 1>all but three Democrats. Three Democrats are voting with us

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<v Speaker 1>to reopen the government. Everyone else is voting now. Until

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats give us seven or eight votes, the government

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<v Speaker 1>will stay shut down. And I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 1>a day. I don't know if that's a week. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's a month. But at some point

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<v Speaker 1>this stunt needs to end.

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<v Speaker 2>You wonder if we get as far as Thanksgiving. That

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<v Speaker 2>cr was dated for the twenty first, but that's the

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<v Speaker 2>big travel weekd ed.

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<v Speaker 3>In mind when I asked you that you mentioned no kings.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty incredible optics from over the weekend and the number

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<v Speaker 2>of cities involved were told that it was some seven

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<v Speaker 2>million people. And I know that there was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of talk and concern ahead of these that there might

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<v Speaker 2>be rioting, that violence could break out, where you encouraged

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<v Speaker 2>to see them be peaceful.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I was glad that there were not significant acts

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<v Speaker 1>of violence. That's certainly a positive development. I've seen other rallies,

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<v Speaker 1>the Black Lives Matter and Antifa rallies that turned into

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<v Speaker 1>violent riots that resulted in a lot of people being injured,

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<v Speaker 1>stores looted, police cars, firebomb during COVID during COVID, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was grateful that these did not play out that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to tell you the total number there, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a little skeptical about. I think those estimates are coming

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<v Speaker 1>from the organizers and we've at least seen you know,

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<v Speaker 1>up in Boston, Massachusetts, Elizabeth Warren tweeted out this incredible

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<v Speaker 1>video of a ton of people gathered and said, look

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<v Speaker 1>at all the.

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<v Speaker 3>People that came out for no Kings.

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<v Speaker 1>The only problem is the video, she said out was

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<v Speaker 1>from twenty seventeen, not from now. So I'm skeptical as

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<v Speaker 1>to the numbers. I'll tell you though, look what I

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<v Speaker 1>am have been laying out this protest was not organic. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>my podcast today, I do do a podcast every week,

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<v Speaker 1>Verdict with Ted Cruz. Today's podcast is actually bringing the

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<v Speaker 1>receipts that these protests they were not organic. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that was striking is they were almost all

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<v Speaker 1>old white people. They're basically boomers in mass which was

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<v Speaker 1>fairly amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is also bought and paid for.

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<v Speaker 1>This is AstroTurf, and in particular George Soros. I lay

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<v Speaker 1>out on the podcast how George Soros's foundation has given

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<v Speaker 1>millions to Indivisible, one of the lead groups organizing these protests, and.

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<v Speaker 3>This is bought and paid for in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, these protests are really expressing the Democrat rage. We

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<v Speaker 1>hate Donald Trump, and sadly that's who today's Democrat party

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<v Speaker 1>is in Congress.

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<v Speaker 4>So, Senator, if you're saying they're bought and paid for,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, don't do you think this is something though

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<v Speaker 4>Republicans need to take seriously. If you remember the beginning

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<v Speaker 4>of the Tea Party and that wasn't necessarily taken all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously, So how should you approach these Look, unquestionably we

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<v Speaker 1>should take political peril seriously. Number One, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>bad for America when one of our two major political

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<v Speaker 1>parties has gotten so extreme and radical the way the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats are. I mean, they're a party that is unified

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<v Speaker 1>behind hate for Donald Trump, but number two politically in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the midterms in twenty twenty six, it's dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm telling my colleagues, Look, if the election in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six depends on results, I think we have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to campaign on. Whether it is securing the

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<v Speaker 1>border and seeing illegal border crossings drop ninety nine percent,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it is ending wars and President Trump negotiating the

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<v Speaker 1>deal to release the hostages that have Moss had taken,

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<v Speaker 1>or whether it is the economy and the record amount

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<v Speaker 1>of money being invested new factories and new jobs.

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<v Speaker 3>In the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>I think substantively, Republicans have a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>To campaign on.

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<v Speaker 1>That being said, and you're exactly right, Julie, there is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of energy. There is a lot of anger

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<v Speaker 1>on the left, and elections can be dangerous when one

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<v Speaker 1>side is mobilized.

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<v Speaker 3>Is anger, I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of fundraising, the Democrats are raising a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more money because their radicals hate Trump so much and

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<v Speaker 1>look angry. Energized voters show up to vote, and I

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<v Speaker 1>do worry about just just ordinary voters who are happy

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<v Speaker 1>or complacent, who say, gosh, Trump one things are good.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to show up and vote. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>doubt if one side shows up and the other doesn't,

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<v Speaker 1>that that leads to a bad election.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I know that you're very concerned about political rhetoric

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<v Speaker 2>in this country and political violence. The comments that you

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<v Speaker 2>made following the suspension of Jimmy Kimmel, made some pretty

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<v Speaker 2>heavy rounds because you were seen as a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a contrarian in that case. And you've got a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of legislation, a job owning bill that's up before the

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<v Speaker 2>Senate right now. Is that you look at the different

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<v Speaker 2>ends of the political spectrum and they come around eventually.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a different version of a No King's Bill.

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<v Speaker 3>No, Look, I think it's very different. Let's be real clear.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe in free speech.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Donald Trump, though, who led so Jimmy Kimmel

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<v Speaker 2>coming off the air, and you were the one who

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<v Speaker 2>called them up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, to be fair, it wasn't Donald Trump. It was

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<v Speaker 1>Brendan Carr, the chairman of the US.

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<v Speaker 2>I realized there were ratings issues and everything else, But

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<v Speaker 2>do you see the connection I'm trying to make.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, listen, listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I disagreed with Brendan Carr's comments, and I actually did

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<v Speaker 1>an entire podcast laying out that government should not be

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<v Speaker 1>threatening to strip the license away from a media outlet

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<v Speaker 1>to remove someone they dislike. Now, to be clear, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't Brendan Carr who invented this process or in the

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<v Speaker 1>Biden administration, the Biden FCC was talking about stripping away

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<v Speaker 1>Fox News's license, and by the way, I led the

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<v Speaker 1>fight against that. I'm the chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee,

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<v Speaker 1>which has jurisdiction over the SCC, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I led the fight to say no, just because you.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't like what Fox News is saying, the federal government

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get to strip their license away. And so when

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<v Speaker 1>this FCC mentioned that as a possibility, I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was important to say, Look, government should not be in

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<v Speaker 1>the business of censoring whether I agree with a speaker

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<v Speaker 1>or not. And so I'm introducing legislation jawboning legislation that

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<v Speaker 1>would number one, make it illegal for the federal government

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<v Speaker 1>to do what the Biden administration did widely, which is

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<v Speaker 1>pressure private organizations, pressure big tech to engage in censorship.

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<v Speaker 1>But it also will create a right of action and

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<v Speaker 1>ability to sue if the government pressures. If the government

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<v Speaker 1>jawbones big tech or a media organization to censor someone,

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<v Speaker 1>it creates damages or a right to seek damages for

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's been censored.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I think we should protect.

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<v Speaker 1>Free speech whether we agree with or disagree with the speaker.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's interesting we talk about licenses too. And of

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<v Speaker 2>course that's a pretty small slice of the media landscape,

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<v Speaker 2>the political media landscape with cable news and everything else

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<v Speaker 2>going on right now. But I have to ask you

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<v Speaker 2>about NASA. We're spending a lot of time on your

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<v Speaker 2>Commerce Committee here, and Bloomberg is reporting, and we heard

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<v Speaker 2>from Sean Duffy earlier today that the Artemist contract may

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<v Speaker 2>be going up forbid, that there might be other companies

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<v Speaker 2>other than SpaceX involved. Here is the answer that's needed

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<v Speaker 2>to finally get America back to the moon.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, listen, I don't know what NASA's going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say I think Sean Duffy is doing a

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic job as the acting administrator.

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<v Speaker 3>He's really dived into the role. And NASA.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, NASA is something that is near and dear to

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<v Speaker 1>my heart. For the last thirteen years, almost every single

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<v Speaker 1>major piece of space related legislation that's passed into law,

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<v Speaker 1>I've either authored or co authored in and being a

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<v Speaker 1>lifelong Houstonian, Johnson's Space Center is right there. It matters

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<v Speaker 1>enormously to Houston, it matters to Texas, and it matters

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<v Speaker 1>to the whole country. One of the most important parts

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<v Speaker 1>of the one Big, Beautiful bill that Donald Trump signed

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<v Speaker 1>a law on the fourth of July is a provision

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<v Speaker 1>that I wrote that funds ten billion dollars for NASA

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to the Moon, and it funds Artemis,

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<v Speaker 1>it funds going back to the Moon.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're in a race.

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<v Speaker 1>Look that there's a unifying theme behind all of the

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<v Speaker 1>legislation that I'm fighting for in the Commerce Committee, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is producing jobs and beating China.

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<v Speaker 3>And we need to beat China going to the moon.

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<v Speaker 1>China's stated they intend to go to the moon by

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thirty and we cannot lose the race to the moon.

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<v Speaker 1>In my view, if we wake up in a few

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<v Speaker 1>years and see China on the moon, see China establishing

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<v Speaker 1>a base on the Moon, I think it would be

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<v Speaker 1>a blow to America. That would make sput Nick seem mild.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to do everything humanly possible to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>that from happening. And I will say Sean Duffy at

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<v Speaker 1>dinner with Sean last week, I think he really is

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<v Speaker 1>diving in and is committed we will go to the

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<v Speaker 1>moon and we will beat China.

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<v Speaker 3>That is very good for America.

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<v Speaker 4>And that was Republican Senator Ted Cruz of Texas speaking

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<v Speaker 4>with US earlier this afternoon,