WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Biggest Key vs. Rams? 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:05.040 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:16.440 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:20.279 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:32.839 Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brovis, Rob Phillips, 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:37.600 and Bill Jones. It is a Tuesday, but it's a 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.640 Wednesday at the Star and it is a great day 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:44.640 to practice outside today. What a beautiful day for a 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:49.360 football practice. And this is Talking Cowboys. Cowboys rams on 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.840 Saturday night Divisional playoff and they're gonna play outdoors, so 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:57.920 why not practice outdoors? Right? Brian brought us in. Rob Phillips. Absolutely, 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:00.560 Weather's great. It's turned around a little bit. Yeah, a 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:03.120 couple of days ago. Yeah, it's been uh, it's been 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:06.520 a minute since they practiced outside because of bad weather. 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:10.679 Well he's playing on grass this week and he's playing outside, right, 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:14.559 So I mean, if you want to play conditioned football, yeah, absolutely, 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:18.360 and what and typically during the regular season and if 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:21.440 it was good weather Wednesday, practice is outdoors and they 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.760 take it indoors regardless of whether they're playing where they're 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:28.640 playing on the weekend and trying to get keep his 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:32.600 team in somewhat condition with the heat and stuff that earlier. Yeah, 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:36.960 so yeah, um makes perfect sense. But it uh, it's 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:42.160 I think it just it adds to the positive outlook 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.760 for everybody when you take it outside, I just don't 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:49.080 like being inside. Well, there's times you have to go inside. 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.160 That's exactly. Yeah, that's that's the key is you don't 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:53.800 want to, you don't. You know. The thing about it 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:57.040 is he didn't want to sacrifice practice. You know when 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:59.280 there's been a lot of times and I remember this 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:01.320 in Green Bay. I hate to be back in the day. Guy, 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:05.120 before we had the Hudson Center, we'd practice outside, and 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:08.720 when players are trying to either deal with heat or cold, 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.359 they don't concentrate. They're trying they're trying to figure out 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.760 how to survive the practice, and so you never got 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.320 really what you wanted at it. If a player is 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.560 concentrating on Okay, here's my responsibilities, this is what I 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.760 have to do, and then you know that's good. But 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.760 when he's thinking and it doesn't got it? I got it. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:30.760 Thirty more minutes of this, Yeah, no, that was and 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.280 Jerry Jones said it was madness. Yeah, I mean in 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.000 the tower that one day we were sitting up on 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.160 there and I think that's when he made the decision 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:40.440 about Oxnard and other places and stuff like that, because 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:42.399 he looked at all of us and said, this is madness. 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:46.079 I can't do this anymore, you know. And in your 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.839 in your case in Green Bay, Okay, though you may 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.960 be playing in twenty degree weather on Sunday, right, you 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.280 want to go ahead and get something accomplished during the week. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.080 You live in that weather. You live, you know, walking 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:00.639 to the car from the parking lot to the facility. Yeah, 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:04.079 you live, you understand about that side the way, it's 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.560 a high of sixty four. I'm not at the risk 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.040 of weather talk high of sixty four today here, So 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:12.720 it's mimicking the conditions in LA for Saturday high of 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:16.720 sixty three. Although there is there is the rain. There 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:18.920 is As the caller said yesterday, I forget his name, 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.040 there is rain in the forecast Saturday night. When has 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.240 that ever happened? You know? I said that on CBS 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:28.320 eleven on Sunday night. Our meteorologists was there, and she 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:30.919 immediately corrected me and said, this time of the year 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.560 it rains quite a bit in southern California, Is that right. 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.200 That's why the stadium is behind. Yeah, they got a 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.520 year behind on that stadium because of all the rain 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:42.520 they had during the winter month and then into the spring. 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.520 So that's why they got behind with the construction. Mickey, 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:49.200 just weather talk, Weather Talk. I like it. We tried 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.280 to get it in before you got here. Yeah, because 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.520 I would have gone. I'm the one who brought it up, 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:58.000 because I mentioned the fact they're outdoors today. Yes, they 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.880 are the dummies out there. Should be a beautiful day 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:04.720 out there warming up. When how was your time on 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:09.040 the radio this morning? It was just fine? Um, Jerry's 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.640 was just fine. Did you listen? I listened to the 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.360 last bit of Jerry was that before or after he 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:19.200 took off somewhere? It's I heard a plane go by, 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:22.000 that's all. I didn't hear that. You didn't hear that. 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:25.000 I didn't show. That was part of a question that 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:28.359 they asked. They were asking that they were asking Jerry. 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.120 They said we were able to be at the game 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:34.159 on Saturday. It was a sound effect that they played 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:37.000 because they were they were they were trying to get 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.880 a bide with Jerry on his plane out to LA 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.479 and so they just didn't have a very good connection. Yea, yeah, 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.880 it was any breaking news from Jerry, no other than 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.919 when they asked him about, um, you know, do you 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.880 want to play the way you guys play and you know, 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:56.039 kind of hog the time of possession and Jerry goes, well, yeah, 0:04:56.160 --> 0:05:00.000 as long as I'm scoring touchdowns, yeah, I gotta finish right, Yeah, 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.360 don't be kicking field goals. I don't want the ball 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:06.520 thirty five times and then kicking five field goals or 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:09.520 thirty five minutes. I meant to say, and and kicking 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.880 field goals. So I kind of like that answer. It's like, yeah, 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.000 we're just gonna run, run and run and run. No, 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:17.200 you got to score points. And as he said when 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:21.520 I've picked up midway in the in the interview, I mean, 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.120 you just gotta win whatever way. Yeah, you win by 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.440 a tenth of a point, you gotta win. Yeah, style 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:30.200 points do not matter. He did sound encouraged about both 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:33.680 Cole Beasley and Tavon Austin for this game, so that helps. 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:37.080 You're receiving numbers. Obviously, Alan Hearns is out. Um, they've 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:40.320 got to ask about Malik Collins because he and Hinkle 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.480 coming out of the game and the way he played 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.599 along with Antoine Woods. Yeah, they need those two guys 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:49.120 in the middle for sure. That's right, because defense can 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:52.159 win championships. There you go, and it's not Antoine now, 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:55.800 it's Twine. Twine. That's what they're calling the guys in 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:57.760 the back room. Yeah, it's so if you want to 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:01.600 be hip with everybody, it's okay, we go by human 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:04.320 Log on this show, don't we. Absolutely, he doesn't know 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.960 that yet. He who coined that? Actually, I think it 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.160 was Nate Newton. I thought Nate did too, And then 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.280 I heard last week that Marion Elli calls him the 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.360 human Maybe maybe got Nate. Yeah, because Nate was the 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:17.800 first one I've ever heard. I thought it was too. 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.680 And like I'll be on the pregame show with those 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.680 guys and I'll say, yeah, you know, Collins, the human Log, 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:25.920 You've got it, you know, and everybody starts cracking up. 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.479 And but everybody knows now who the human Log is. 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:32.080 It's like with Zach Martin president, you know exactly exactly, 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.839 but the the nickname did He's always been that though 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.680 that commenting on fashion advice, that's right, he does best 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:42.400 and talk football. H Antoine would sort of a homecoming 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.960 game for him. Yes, lad at USC he said he's 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:48.320 got a lot of ticket requests for fight on. Yeah, um, 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.159 be a special type of moment for him. I'm sure 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.719 I haven't played college ball down there. So Jerry too 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:57.560 with all his cousins. Jerry was born in La. Yeah, La. 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.840 What did he say? He's Nate was LA Hospital the 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:04.680 play whatever? Um, but yeah, he was born there. He said. Yeah, 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:06.719 I've got a lot of first those folks cousins still 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.400 now I should get thirty more people charing for the Cowboys. 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:13.680 The Rams ought to be grateful, the fans of the Rams, 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:15.360 I'd be grateful. I mean, Jerry Jones was one of 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:17.800 the reasons why that team's back there, you know, and 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.920 a big push Stan Cronky and those guys. I mean 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.120 he made a push to get the market back in LA. 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:26.160 And so both those LA teams in the playoffs about that, 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.920 it's crazy. Yeah, and doing very well, doing very We 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.880 both have a both have a shot, no question. Um. 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:37.600 I can't remember five cover day night game in that coliseum. 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:42.440 Usually it's a day game field. It gets very slippery preseason. Yeah, 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:47.280 you gotta watch the place. Yeah, we did drive up. 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.480 We started in the day and it went into early 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.800 and well, this one'll start at fifteen, right, Dak's first 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.600 preseason game, right, Yeah, that's right. So when we know 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.680 Dak was Dak, that's right, that's we all wondered what 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.680 the hell we've been talking about before he was quarterbacking? Right, 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:03.920 We're all going, whoa, where this? Where did this come from? 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.080 Based on the practice? Yeah, based on the practices and 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:09.240 stuff like that. Yeah, everybody wanted Jamil Showers to be 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.880 the backup. Oh yeah, right, that's right. So we're all 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:19.240 doing radio. Um, well, while we're talking to Los Angeles 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.840 Memorial Coliseum, that's where I decided to quit law school. Really, 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:26.680 is that right? Was Oklahoma USC USC game? It was 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:30.520 number one ranked O you versus number two ranked USC 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:34.360 at the coliseum in La Rocky six, nineteen eighty one. 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.760 Jackson's probably on the call, Yeah he was, because Vic 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:39.720 Rocks Shawnee had a hell of a day for USC 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.800 that day. Kate actually Jack del Rio was for USC 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.920 and Drew Dassett was playing for USC. Say that name again, 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.520 Dick Rocks Shawnee, look him up. He said he was 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.719 a tight end at USC. I think he I think 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:53.800 he caught the game when he touchdown. It was not 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.440 it was not. It was Fred Cornwell. Cornwell caught him 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.120 the gate. John Mazer to Fred Cornwell with two seconds 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:01.319 left in the game, look up the name Vic rock 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:03.560 Shann and he was Yeah, he was a tight ended 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.040 note at USC. I thought he caught the game winner 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:08.640 that day. No, Oklahoma, we're a all white worst, right, 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.800 trust me? It was yeah. I still got the cassette 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.960 tape of the game and Frank Royle's and uh and 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.199 he Jack Keith Jackson, we're calling the game. We were 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:21.720 with the KGOU, the student radio station, and they put 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:23.920 us on top of the press box. It's not a 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:27.880 bad seat up although your sheet, you know, I've got 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.000 all I've got all this bill, I got my sheets 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.120 blowing away you and I did that stuff at ox 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:35.240 Starter sheets are blowing all over the place. Anyway, and 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:39.400 and so um. Anyway, if there's two seconds left in 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.240 the game, Maser to Fred Cornwood and it was Maser 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:46.000 left handed, I think so he wound up transfer was 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.520 left handed? I know, yeah, I don't know if Maser was. Yeah, 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.200 but anyway, round up transferring to Texas A and m 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.760 okay and uh. But anyway, and the next day I 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.760 went back home to Norman, Oklahoma, and in tears called 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:02.040 my dad, who was an attorney and um and told 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.439 him I'm quittin law school. Yeah, and your dad was 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:08.240 in tears there too. Oh he's sick. Good. It's really good. 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.520 You should have never been in law school to begin with. 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:12.600 Financially or something going on here. You need to go 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.839 be a sports guest. Okay. I was studying rosters a 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:23.959 lot more than the best, exactly but exactly, but he 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.640 knew that I had to learn them on my own. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:28.760 You know. It was a great life lesson right there. 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:33.960 But anyway, La first place I remember watching on television 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:41.040 a World Series games and Dodgers nine, the Go Go Socks. 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:46.200 I yeah, fifty nine? Were you born fifty two? Okay? God, 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.920 Mickey college is limited, by the way. A matter of fact, 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:52.320 I've got a scrapbook from that World Series and all 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:56.439 I did was keep the pictures that of the stories, 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:58.439 I kept the pictures. I don't know how they fit 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.920 a baseball field in there. It was really funny how 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.520 the porch on the right field I think was really 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.160 like like Finway like it was they like if you 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.160 were if you were left handed hit or you're putting 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.120 them in the corner and then what you're doing. Yeah, 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.800 center field or left field went for like forever. Yeah, 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.319 it was. It was as soon as I've seen configurations 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.480 of it. Yeah, and it and it looks like like 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.599 I say that that was a really short porch is 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:26.280 what it was, so everybody it was six hundred feet. Yeah, 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:28.600 it was aol. It was a poke to the other way. 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.520 But if you if you're a pull hitter, you know, Yeah, 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.400 and there was. It still holds the record for most 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.760 people to watch a World Series game. Yeah, it was that. 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:38.760 I think they put in like ninety or one hundred 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.480 thousand people to watch. Did we did we figure out 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:45.719 what their capacity is? Right now? I did figure out. 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:47.760 While your guys are looking that up, I did get 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:51.160 word mickey to your question that the Malite Collins will 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:55.000 be limited today. Okay, limited, So he'll he'll he'll probably 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:57.880 do some things on the side and maybe work with 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.680 Britt Brown, but we'll see how that all works out 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:04.520 for him. But the designation name will be limited. And 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.680 as a public service announcement for folks going to the game, 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:12.120 do yourself a favor and get there early and go 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.200 to the well. I'm looking at the field from the 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:20.800 press box with the end where the tower the monuments. Yeah, 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:25.320 for the Olympics, they've got all those plaques commemorating big 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:29.440 events there along with they've got it's like a monument 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:33.680 field there for there they've got plaques commemorating some of 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:38.960 the top performances at the coliseum, including the Olympics, both 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:43.120 Olympics and World Series and big games. And it's a 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:46.960 pretty neat area if you love history, and you should 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:50.720 go check it out. Rob Phillips according to Early Bus 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:54.960 According to Wikipedia, seventy eight thousand, four hundred sixty seven. 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.640 So that's way down from where, Yeah, it used to 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:02.319 be ninety's got that all that where the monuments are 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:07.040 they used to be came down the steps, Yeah, the 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.760 ramp that goes down from the I do I do 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.800 remember this place, and I said it earlier. Keep an 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.640 eye on the field conditions because the grass been watching 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.800 the grass when USC plays there, it's it always gets 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.400 painted a lot. And now USC not having to play 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.880 field look good from like the Eagles game on for 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:29.160 how the conditions. But at night that moisture seeps in 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:33.599 the air seeps in and makes that field slippery. You know, 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:35.960 teams have had problems playing there. I watch a lot 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.120 of late night Pack twelve football, and when they do, 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.640 when they when the nighttime hits there, they tend to 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.080 have a problem with that field. So it might be 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:49.840 something I mean, of course, yeah, but when it gets 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:54.439 dark that that mal marine air kind of that stuff 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.079 kind of comes in there and it makes that place slippery. 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:58.920 So just keep an eye on that one, especially if 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.400 it's raining. And I didn't expect that I figured out. 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.840 You know, you think New Orleans, okay, La, Yeah, I 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.440 mean I don't think it'll be a torrential downpour, but 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:09.800 that's interesting to keep an eye on. For two, LA, 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:13.120 that's a fast paced offense obviously, so something to keep 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.640 an eye on. Cold affects that offense. Watch the Bears 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:20.120 play them. Yeah, cold makes that offense go slow if 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:22.000 you can get it to be thirty eight degrees there. 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.360 Remember when the last year when the Cowboys played a 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:29.880 preseason game at the Coliseum against the Rams. What was 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:33.000 your mindset about the Rams team at that point and 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.760 the Cowboys team for that Matt that was twenty seventeen. 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.520 Cowboys were coming off thirteen and three, right, okay, and 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.960 the Rams, I believe we're coming off four and twelve 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:45.400 something right first year, Cody sixteen the first year, and 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:49.120 Jared Gobb's first year, and I remember thinking going and 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.240 there were so much turnover on that team. You know, 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:53.600 they changed out all their wide receiver. You know, they 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.240 were brought in at that point. They just traded for 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:59.480 Sammy Watkins and you know they had Robert Woods, they 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:01.960 had why don't think they got all these Buffalo receivers? 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.720 And I was thinking, I mean the Rams, when are 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:06.000 they ever gonna be good again? And then all of 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.720 a sudden, you know, that year they went off, I 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.640 know they're another GM Less sneed Yeah, Less thought he 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:13.680 was gonna get fired. Yeah, Less was worried they were 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:15.720 gonna bring Gruden in there, and like Gruden and we 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.480 see what Gruden does, he kills the personnel guys, so 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.320 you know he was worried about that. But yeah, they 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.600 have credit to Less sneed on that they did. They 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:25.360 made that. They gave up a bunch of picks to 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.560 get golf. But they kind of parrelated into some really 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.280 nice players and who you look overall and who he's 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.960 hired obviously McVay has done a terrific job Wade Phillips 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:40.400 with that defense. Um, I kept John Fossil. Who's John Fossil. Fossil, 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:42.840 Jef Fossil's son, his special teams coach. He's one of 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.920 the more respected special teams coaches in the league. But 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.080 the personnel, Yeah, they went out and got some guys too. 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.800 If you look, you know with the tackle, the offensive tackle, Whitworth, Whitworth, 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:55.080 you know, they spent some money on that. That was huge. Yeah, 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.560 it's huge. That's that's kind of where the strength of 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.000 their team is. I think though, those two big tackles 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.880 Hackstein and and went Worth in those guys and they 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:05.840 kind of play it from there. So let's not overlook 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:11.000 Todd Gurling, No, never overlooked. He's he's he's there, He's there, 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:15.400 Ezekiel Elliott, you know, I mean. And so they did 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:19.000 the offense that year, and then they spent big bucks 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:22.160 on the defense this year right to leave with Sue. 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:26.440 Sue traded for Peters. Peters. Yeah, yeah, they've done a 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:30.160 nice job. And Fowler from Jackson picked him up. He's 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:32.600 hop three pick in the draft. Bustin and Jackson a 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.480 couple of sacks. Yeah, it's it's a it's a They've 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:38.320 done a nice job of adding pieces. Make minds me 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.680 very much of Philadelph. I remember Philadelphi. You tried to 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.000 add all those pieces, you know, to get a run 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:45.720 you know, I mean it went out and while yeah, 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:47.640 they went out and got a lot of guys a 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:49.960 few years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, tried to get added 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.960 a bunch of defensive pieces and stuff. Very similar to that. 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:55.800 Teams are running the ball on them though, just kind 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:57.760 of watched the Philadelphi Eagles run the ball on him 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:00.800 a little bit, so I'm kind of encouraged by that. 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:02.960 That's the strength of your football team is the ability 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:04.520 to run the ball. So you don't feel like, because 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.440 you said yesterday, maybe it's a product of some of 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.000 the scores they've had, but it's it's just in general. 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.280 I mean they've had they've had some leaky run defensive 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.320 Yeah yeah, I mean people have blocked him and the 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:17.520 one thing they've done is they've trapped Aaron Donald is 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:19.240 how they run him, and the Philadelphia did a great 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:20.720 job with this. When he gets up field, they just 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:22.560 trapp him with the guard and go behind the trap 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.199 you know. So they took advantage of how fast they 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:26.920 wanted to get up the field to get the ball 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.679 inside quick, and that's why they're able to handle that. 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.080 And then they blocked the linebackers. Mark Baron, it's a 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:33.840 little bit of a smaller guy, you know. It was 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.320 a strong safety when he was drafted as a linebacker. 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.520 Could run like hell. When you run sideways on these guys, 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:42.160 it's hard to play. But when you when you run 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.159 at him, they tend to they tend That's where the 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.840 Eagles were having some good success. They're giving up five 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.720 point one yards a carry, Yeah, one hundred and twenty 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:54.359 two a game. Yeah, okay, they gave up one hundred 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.600 and ninety freshmore at Chicago. Here you getting you're talking 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.720 a bat which is a fifteen to six loss on 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.480 the number ninth. Yeah, it's just okay. And they gave 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:05.159 up two hundred and seventy three yards rushing in a 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:09.440 thirty six thirty one win over Seattle on November eleventh. Yeah, 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:11.919 and Seattle, we've seen Seattle's running game. And what did 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:13.560 Seattle trying to do? They try and beat you up 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.840 up front and run with a powerback. No wonder Seattle 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.920 was ranked so high in rushing offense. It was that game. 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:23.959 How about how about rushing two games worth rushing for 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.360 two seventy rights of what you just said, two seventy 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:29.679 three to seventy and also and then also scoring a 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:33.000 bunch of points that's usually you know, not the thirty 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.360 one points against him. Yeah, yeah, I mean they beat 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.480 them twice, right, but they were two three point games 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:40.960 or something like they were. That was a five point win, 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:45.560 thirty six thirty one, okay, and the thirty three thirty 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:48.000 one was the other two point game. Yeah, it's very 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:52.080 similar type games. And Seattle in that game had one 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.840 hundred and ninety yards rushing. Again. Yeah, it's just a 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:57.680 what's the Kansas City game? I'm looking forward to seeing 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.200 that one too. That's just surprising, giving their person all 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:04.800 Sue Donald Brockers. Yeah, is a good player. That's a 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:06.920 guy that the Cowboys looked at drafting and the Mo 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:09.640 Claiborne draft if they hadn't traded up. You know, that's 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:12.520 he's a he's an outstanding player. Rockers and Bobby Wagner 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.720 instead of Mo. How about that one? Is that right? 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.200 That would have been the second round pick with Wagner's 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:21.359 right Rockers was there at fourteen. Yeah, HiT's what that 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:23.480 the Rams used to pick that they got from the 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:27.480 Cowboys that pick. Yeah, it's right, ye yea. Thanks well, 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:31.199 they had the draft gods someday smile on you someday, 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:32.840 and they frowned on you the next They've been doing 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.040 pretty well since. Yeah, all these first round picks have 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.680 turned into all pros. They have, they sure have sure 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.960 half okay, and then you look at okay. Against Kansas City, 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:44.520 they gave up four forty eight passing to Mahomes in 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:47.879 that fifty four fifty one game, ninety eight rushing. The 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:52.440 other game they lost at the Saints, the forty five 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:56.760 thirty five game, the Saints had four hundred and eighty 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:59.840 seven yards of offense, three forty six passing in one 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.320 forty one rushing. There you go, here's your recipe of 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:07.160 that all. What happened to mister fix it? You know what? Though, 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:09.680 But they're still thirteen to three, That's what I'm saying. 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:11.720 They're they're they've got the they've got the home game, 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.919 we're traveling. Yeah, and they're mid pack defense too. I 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.240 think they're like thirteenth or fourteenth in points per game. 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:19.640 It's not like they're giving up thirty a game. Well, 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:22.520 they've put a lot of pressure on you. They're twentieth 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:28.320 uh in points are scoring defense, scoring defense, they're twentieth. Uh. 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:32.119 Let's see twenty third in rush defense and fourteenth and 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:37.439 past defense. I misread that, which but that'll show you 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:40.000 because they're ahead and a lot of games as past 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:44.280 defense being just fourteenth gets taxed. But but actually it's 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:47.000 better than what I would think. Yeah, but because because 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:49.520 you're right, it gets taxed because they're they're throwing the 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:51.359 ball to get you up right, So that says a 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:54.360 lot about their past. Deems right. They trust me. I'm 0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:57.280 watching those guys play. There's there's some guys. Philadelphia was 0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:59.360 able to get some separation. Again this only game I've seen. 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:01.639 I've seen all the offensive games. I'm gonna watch, but 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:04.280 watching to leave and those guys they give up some 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:07.840