Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is He's Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brovis, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. It is a Tuesday, but it's a
Speaker 1: Wednesday at the Star and it is a great day
Speaker 1: to practice outside today. What a beautiful day for a
Speaker 1: football practice. And this is Talking Cowboys. Cowboys rams on
Speaker 1: Saturday night Divisional playoff and they're gonna play outdoors, so
Speaker 1: why not practice outdoors? Right? Brian brought us in. Rob Phillips. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: Weather's great. It's turned around a little bit. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: couple of days ago. Yeah, it's been uh, it's been
Speaker 1: a minute since they practiced outside because of bad weather.
Speaker 1: Well he's playing on grass this week and he's playing outside, right,
Speaker 1: So I mean, if you want to play conditioned football, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and what and typically during the regular season and if
Speaker 1: it was good weather Wednesday, practice is outdoors and they
Speaker 1: take it indoors regardless of whether they're playing where they're
Speaker 1: playing on the weekend and trying to get keep his
Speaker 1: team in somewhat condition with the heat and stuff that earlier. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, um makes perfect sense. But it uh, it's
Speaker 1: I think it just it adds to the positive outlook
Speaker 1: for everybody when you take it outside, I just don't
Speaker 1: like being inside. Well, there's times you have to go inside.
Speaker 1: That's exactly. Yeah, that's that's the key is you don't
Speaker 1: want to, you don't. You know. The thing about it
Speaker 1: is he didn't want to sacrifice practice. You know when
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of times and I remember this
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. I hate to be back in the day. Guy,
Speaker 1: before we had the Hudson Center, we'd practice outside, and
Speaker 1: when players are trying to either deal with heat or cold,
Speaker 1: they don't concentrate. They're trying they're trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how to survive the practice, and so you never got
Speaker 1: really what you wanted at it. If a player is
Speaker 1: concentrating on Okay, here's my responsibilities, this is what I
Speaker 1: have to do, and then you know that's good. But
Speaker 1: when he's thinking and it doesn't got it? I got it.
Speaker 1: Thirty more minutes of this, Yeah, no, that was and
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones said it was madness. Yeah, I mean in
Speaker 1: the tower that one day we were sitting up on
Speaker 1: there and I think that's when he made the decision
Speaker 1: about Oxnard and other places and stuff like that, because
Speaker 1: he looked at all of us and said, this is madness.
Speaker 1: I can't do this anymore, you know. And in your
Speaker 1: in your case in Green Bay, Okay, though you may
Speaker 1: be playing in twenty degree weather on Sunday, right, you
Speaker 1: want to go ahead and get something accomplished during the week.
Speaker 1: You live in that weather. You live, you know, walking
Speaker 1: to the car from the parking lot to the facility. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you live, you understand about that side the way, it's
Speaker 1: a high of sixty four. I'm not at the risk
Speaker 1: of weather talk high of sixty four today here, So
Speaker 1: it's mimicking the conditions in LA for Saturday high of
Speaker 1: sixty three. Although there is there is the rain. There
Speaker 1: is As the caller said yesterday, I forget his name,
Speaker 1: there is rain in the forecast Saturday night. When has
Speaker 1: that ever happened? You know? I said that on CBS
Speaker 1: eleven on Sunday night. Our meteorologists was there, and she
Speaker 1: immediately corrected me and said, this time of the year
Speaker 1: it rains quite a bit in southern California, Is that right.
Speaker 1: That's why the stadium is behind. Yeah, they got a
Speaker 1: year behind on that stadium because of all the rain
Speaker 1: they had during the winter month and then into the spring.
Speaker 1: So that's why they got behind with the construction. Mickey,
Speaker 1: just weather talk, Weather Talk. I like it. We tried
Speaker 1: to get it in before you got here. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I would have gone. I'm the one who brought it up,
Speaker 1: because I mentioned the fact they're outdoors today. Yes, they
Speaker 1: are the dummies out there. Should be a beautiful day
Speaker 1: out there warming up. When how was your time on
Speaker 1: the radio this morning? It was just fine? Um, Jerry's
Speaker 1: was just fine. Did you listen? I listened to the
Speaker 1: last bit of Jerry was that before or after he
Speaker 1: took off somewhere? It's I heard a plane go by,
Speaker 1: that's all. I didn't hear that. You didn't hear that.
Speaker 1: I didn't show. That was part of a question that
Speaker 1: they asked. They were asking that they were asking Jerry.
Speaker 1: They said we were able to be at the game
Speaker 1: on Saturday. It was a sound effect that they played
Speaker 1: because they were they were they were trying to get
Speaker 1: a bide with Jerry on his plane out to LA
Speaker 1: and so they just didn't have a very good connection. Yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was any breaking news from Jerry, no other than
Speaker 1: when they asked him about, um, you know, do you
Speaker 1: want to play the way you guys play and you know,
Speaker 1: kind of hog the time of possession and Jerry goes, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: as long as I'm scoring touchdowns, yeah, I gotta finish right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't be kicking field goals. I don't want the ball
Speaker 1: thirty five times and then kicking five field goals or
Speaker 1: thirty five minutes. I meant to say, and and kicking
Speaker 1: field goals. So I kind of like that answer. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna run, run and run and run. No,
Speaker 1: you got to score points. And as he said when
Speaker 1: I've picked up midway in the in the interview, I mean,
Speaker 1: you just gotta win whatever way. Yeah, you win by
Speaker 1: a tenth of a point, you gotta win. Yeah, style
Speaker 1: points do not matter. He did sound encouraged about both
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley and Tavon Austin for this game, so that helps.
Speaker 1: You're receiving numbers. Obviously, Alan Hearns is out. Um, they've
Speaker 1: got to ask about Malik Collins because he and Hinkle
Speaker 1: coming out of the game and the way he played
Speaker 1: along with Antoine Woods. Yeah, they need those two guys
Speaker 1: in the middle for sure. That's right, because defense can
Speaker 1: win championships. There you go, and it's not Antoine now,
Speaker 1: it's Twine. Twine. That's what they're calling the guys in
Speaker 1: the back room. Yeah, it's so if you want to
Speaker 1: be hip with everybody, it's okay, we go by human
Speaker 1: Log on this show, don't we. Absolutely, he doesn't know
Speaker 1: that yet. He who coined that? Actually, I think it
Speaker 1: was Nate Newton. I thought Nate did too, And then
Speaker 1: I heard last week that Marion Elli calls him the
Speaker 1: human Maybe maybe got Nate. Yeah, because Nate was the
Speaker 1: first one I've ever heard. I thought it was too.
Speaker 1: And like I'll be on the pregame show with those
Speaker 1: guys and I'll say, yeah, you know, Collins, the human Log,
Speaker 1: You've got it, you know, and everybody starts cracking up.
Speaker 1: And but everybody knows now who the human Log is.
Speaker 1: It's like with Zach Martin president, you know exactly exactly,
Speaker 1: but the the nickname did He's always been that though
Speaker 1: that commenting on fashion advice, that's right, he does best
Speaker 1: and talk football. H Antoine would sort of a homecoming
Speaker 1: game for him. Yes, lad at USC he said he's
Speaker 1: got a lot of ticket requests for fight on. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: be a special type of moment for him. I'm sure
Speaker 1: I haven't played college ball down there. So Jerry too
Speaker 1: with all his cousins. Jerry was born in La. Yeah, La.
Speaker 1: What did he say? He's Nate was LA Hospital the
Speaker 1: play whatever? Um, but yeah, he was born there. He said. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of first those folks cousins still
Speaker 1: now I should get thirty more people charing for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: The Rams ought to be grateful, the fans of the Rams,
Speaker 1: I'd be grateful. I mean, Jerry Jones was one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why that team's back there, you know, and
Speaker 1: a big push Stan Cronky and those guys. I mean
Speaker 1: he made a push to get the market back in LA.
Speaker 1: And so both those LA teams in the playoffs about that,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Yeah, and doing very well, doing very We
Speaker 1: both have a both have a shot, no question. Um.
Speaker 1: I can't remember five cover day night game in that coliseum.
Speaker 1: Usually it's a day game field. It gets very slippery preseason. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta watch the place. Yeah, we did drive up.
Speaker 1: We started in the day and it went into early
Speaker 1: and well, this one'll start at fifteen, right, Dak's first
Speaker 1: preseason game, right, Yeah, that's right. So when we know
Speaker 1: Dak was Dak, that's right, that's we all wondered what
Speaker 1: the hell we've been talking about before he was quarterbacking? Right,
Speaker 1: We're all going, whoa, where this? Where did this come from?
Speaker 1: Based on the practice? Yeah, based on the practices and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Yeah, everybody wanted Jamil Showers to be
Speaker 1: the backup. Oh yeah, right, that's right. So we're all
Speaker 1: doing radio. Um, well, while we're talking to Los Angeles
Speaker 1: Memorial Coliseum, that's where I decided to quit law school. Really,
Speaker 1: is that right? Was Oklahoma USC USC game? It was
Speaker 1: number one ranked O you versus number two ranked USC
Speaker 1: at the coliseum in La Rocky six, nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 1: Jackson's probably on the call, Yeah he was, because Vic
Speaker 1: Rocks Shawnee had a hell of a day for USC
Speaker 1: that day. Kate actually Jack del Rio was for USC
Speaker 1: and Drew Dassett was playing for USC. Say that name again,
Speaker 1: Dick Rocks Shawnee, look him up. He said he was
Speaker 1: a tight end at USC. I think he I think
Speaker 1: he caught the game when he touchdown. It was not
Speaker 1: it was not. It was Fred Cornwell. Cornwell caught him
Speaker 1: the gate. John Mazer to Fred Cornwell with two seconds
Speaker 1: left in the game, look up the name Vic rock
Speaker 1: Shann and he was Yeah, he was a tight ended
Speaker 1: note at USC. I thought he caught the game winner
Speaker 1: that day. No, Oklahoma, we're a all white worst, right,
Speaker 1: trust me? It was yeah. I still got the cassette
Speaker 1: tape of the game and Frank Royle's and uh and
Speaker 1: he Jack Keith Jackson, we're calling the game. We were
Speaker 1: with the KGOU, the student radio station, and they put
Speaker 1: us on top of the press box. It's not a
Speaker 1: bad seat up although your sheet, you know, I've got
Speaker 1: all I've got all this bill, I got my sheets
Speaker 1: blowing away you and I did that stuff at ox
Speaker 1: Starter sheets are blowing all over the place. Anyway, and
Speaker 1: and so um. Anyway, if there's two seconds left in
Speaker 1: the game, Maser to Fred Cornwood and it was Maser
Speaker 1: left handed, I think so he wound up transfer was
Speaker 1: left handed? I know, yeah, I don't know if Maser was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but anyway, round up transferring to Texas A and m
Speaker 1: okay and uh. But anyway, and the next day I
Speaker 1: went back home to Norman, Oklahoma, and in tears called
Speaker 1: my dad, who was an attorney and um and told
Speaker 1: him I'm quittin law school. Yeah, and your dad was
Speaker 1: in tears there too. Oh he's sick. Good. It's really good.
Speaker 1: You should have never been in law school to begin with.
Speaker 1: Financially or something going on here. You need to go
Speaker 1: be a sports guest. Okay. I was studying rosters a
Speaker 1: lot more than the best, exactly but exactly, but he
Speaker 1: knew that I had to learn them on my own.
Speaker 1: You know. It was a great life lesson right there.
Speaker 1: But anyway, La first place I remember watching on television
Speaker 1: a World Series games and Dodgers nine, the Go Go Socks.
Speaker 1: I yeah, fifty nine? Were you born fifty two? Okay? God,
Speaker 1: Mickey college is limited, by the way. A matter of fact,
Speaker 1: I've got a scrapbook from that World Series and all
Speaker 1: I did was keep the pictures that of the stories,
Speaker 1: I kept the pictures. I don't know how they fit
Speaker 1: a baseball field in there. It was really funny how
Speaker 1: the porch on the right field I think was really
Speaker 1: like like Finway like it was they like if you
Speaker 1: were if you were left handed hit or you're putting
Speaker 1: them in the corner and then what you're doing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: center field or left field went for like forever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was as soon as I've seen configurations
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, and it and it looks like like
Speaker 1: I say that that was a really short porch is
Speaker 1: what it was, so everybody it was six hundred feet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was aol. It was a poke to the other way.
Speaker 1: But if you if you're a pull hitter, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there was. It still holds the record for most
Speaker 1: people to watch a World Series game. Yeah, it was that.
Speaker 1: I think they put in like ninety or one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand people to watch. Did we did we figure out
Speaker 1: what their capacity is? Right now? I did figure out.
Speaker 1: While your guys are looking that up, I did get
Speaker 1: word mickey to your question that the Malite Collins will
Speaker 1: be limited today. Okay, limited, So he'll he'll he'll probably
Speaker 1: do some things on the side and maybe work with
Speaker 1: Britt Brown, but we'll see how that all works out
Speaker 1: for him. But the designation name will be limited. And
Speaker 1: as a public service announcement for folks going to the game,
Speaker 1: do yourself a favor and get there early and go
Speaker 1: to the well. I'm looking at the field from the
Speaker 1: press box with the end where the tower the monuments. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for the Olympics, they've got all those plaques commemorating big
Speaker 1: events there along with they've got it's like a monument
Speaker 1: field there for there they've got plaques commemorating some of
Speaker 1: the top performances at the coliseum, including the Olympics, both
Speaker 1: Olympics and World Series and big games. And it's a
Speaker 1: pretty neat area if you love history, and you should
Speaker 1: go check it out. Rob Phillips according to Early Bus
Speaker 1: According to Wikipedia, seventy eight thousand, four hundred sixty seven.
Speaker 1: So that's way down from where, Yeah, it used to
Speaker 1: be ninety's got that all that where the monuments are
Speaker 1: they used to be came down the steps, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: ramp that goes down from the I do I do
Speaker 1: remember this place, and I said it earlier. Keep an
Speaker 1: eye on the field conditions because the grass been watching
Speaker 1: the grass when USC plays there, it's it always gets
Speaker 1: painted a lot. And now USC not having to play
Speaker 1: field look good from like the Eagles game on for
Speaker 1: how the conditions. But at night that moisture seeps in
Speaker 1: the air seeps in and makes that field slippery. You know,
Speaker 1: teams have had problems playing there. I watch a lot
Speaker 1: of late night Pack twelve football, and when they do,
Speaker 1: when they when the nighttime hits there, they tend to
Speaker 1: have a problem with that field. So it might be
Speaker 1: something I mean, of course, yeah, but when it gets
Speaker 1: dark that that mal marine air kind of that stuff
Speaker 1: kind of comes in there and it makes that place slippery.
Speaker 1: So just keep an eye on that one, especially if
Speaker 1: it's raining. And I didn't expect that I figured out.
Speaker 1: You know, you think New Orleans, okay, La, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I don't think it'll be a torrential downpour, but
Speaker 1: that's interesting to keep an eye on. For two, LA,
Speaker 1: that's a fast paced offense obviously, so something to keep
Speaker 1: an eye on. Cold affects that offense. Watch the Bears
Speaker 1: play them. Yeah, cold makes that offense go slow if
Speaker 1: you can get it to be thirty eight degrees there.
Speaker 1: Remember when the last year when the Cowboys played a
Speaker 1: preseason game at the Coliseum against the Rams. What was
Speaker 1: your mindset about the Rams team at that point and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys team for that Matt that was twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: Cowboys were coming off thirteen and three, right, okay, and
Speaker 1: the Rams, I believe we're coming off four and twelve
Speaker 1: something right first year, Cody sixteen the first year, and
Speaker 1: Jared Gobb's first year, and I remember thinking going and
Speaker 1: there were so much turnover on that team. You know,
Speaker 1: they changed out all their wide receiver. You know, they
Speaker 1: were brought in at that point. They just traded for
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins and you know they had Robert Woods, they
Speaker 1: had why don't think they got all these Buffalo receivers?
Speaker 1: And I was thinking, I mean the Rams, when are
Speaker 1: they ever gonna be good again? And then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, that year they went off, I
Speaker 1: know they're another GM Less sneed Yeah, Less thought he
Speaker 1: was gonna get fired. Yeah, Less was worried they were
Speaker 1: gonna bring Gruden in there, and like Gruden and we
Speaker 1: see what Gruden does, he kills the personnel guys, so
Speaker 1: you know he was worried about that. But yeah, they
Speaker 1: have credit to Less sneed on that they did. They
Speaker 1: made that. They gave up a bunch of picks to
Speaker 1: get golf. But they kind of parrelated into some really
Speaker 1: nice players and who you look overall and who he's
Speaker 1: hired obviously McVay has done a terrific job Wade Phillips
Speaker 1: with that defense. Um, I kept John Fossil. Who's John Fossil. Fossil,
Speaker 1: Jef Fossil's son, his special teams coach. He's one of
Speaker 1: the more respected special teams coaches in the league. But
Speaker 1: the personnel, Yeah, they went out and got some guys too.
Speaker 1: If you look, you know with the tackle, the offensive tackle, Whitworth, Whitworth,
Speaker 1: you know, they spent some money on that. That was huge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's huge. That's that's kind of where the strength of
Speaker 1: their team is. I think though, those two big tackles
Speaker 1: Hackstein and and went Worth in those guys and they
Speaker 1: kind of play it from there. So let's not overlook
Speaker 1: Todd Gurling, No, never overlooked. He's he's he's there, He's there,
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott, you know, I mean. And so they did
Speaker 1: the offense that year, and then they spent big bucks
Speaker 1: on the defense this year right to leave with Sue.
Speaker 1: Sue traded for Peters. Peters. Yeah, yeah, they've done a
Speaker 1: nice job. And Fowler from Jackson picked him up. He's
Speaker 1: hop three pick in the draft. Bustin and Jackson a
Speaker 1: couple of sacks. Yeah, it's it's a it's a They've
Speaker 1: done a nice job of adding pieces. Make minds me
Speaker 1: very much of Philadelph. I remember Philadelphi. You tried to
Speaker 1: add all those pieces, you know, to get a run
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it went out and while yeah,
Speaker 1: they went out and got a lot of guys a
Speaker 1: few years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, tried to get added
Speaker 1: a bunch of defensive pieces and stuff. Very similar to that.
Speaker 1: Teams are running the ball on them though, just kind
Speaker 1: of watched the Philadelphi Eagles run the ball on him
Speaker 1: a little bit, so I'm kind of encouraged by that.
Speaker 1: That's the strength of your football team is the ability
Speaker 1: to run the ball. So you don't feel like, because
Speaker 1: you said yesterday, maybe it's a product of some of
Speaker 1: the scores they've had, but it's it's just in general.
Speaker 1: I mean they've had they've had some leaky run defensive
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean people have blocked him and the
Speaker 1: one thing they've done is they've trapped Aaron Donald is
Speaker 1: how they run him, and the Philadelphia did a great
Speaker 1: job with this. When he gets up field, they just
Speaker 1: trapp him with the guard and go behind the trap
Speaker 1: you know. So they took advantage of how fast they
Speaker 1: wanted to get up the field to get the ball
Speaker 1: inside quick, and that's why they're able to handle that.
Speaker 1: And then they blocked the linebackers. Mark Baron, it's a
Speaker 1: little bit of a smaller guy, you know. It was
Speaker 1: a strong safety when he was drafted as a linebacker.
Speaker 1: Could run like hell. When you run sideways on these guys,
Speaker 1: it's hard to play. But when you when you run
Speaker 1: at him, they tend to they tend That's where the
Speaker 1: Eagles were having some good success. They're giving up five
Speaker 1: point one yards a carry, Yeah, one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: two a game. Yeah, okay, they gave up one hundred
Speaker 1: and ninety freshmore at Chicago. Here you getting you're talking
Speaker 1: a bat which is a fifteen to six loss on
Speaker 1: the number ninth. Yeah, it's just okay. And they gave
Speaker 1: up two hundred and seventy three yards rushing in a
Speaker 1: thirty six thirty one win over Seattle on November eleventh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Seattle, we've seen Seattle's running game. And what did
Speaker 1: Seattle trying to do? They try and beat you up
Speaker 1: up front and run with a powerback. No wonder Seattle
Speaker 1: was ranked so high in rushing offense. It was that game.
Speaker 1: How about how about rushing two games worth rushing for
Speaker 1: two seventy rights of what you just said, two seventy
Speaker 1: three to seventy and also and then also scoring a
Speaker 1: bunch of points that's usually you know, not the thirty
Speaker 1: one points against him. Yeah, yeah, I mean they beat
Speaker 1: them twice, right, but they were two three point games
Speaker 1: or something like they were. That was a five point win,
Speaker 1: thirty six thirty one, okay, and the thirty three thirty
Speaker 1: one was the other two point game. Yeah, it's very
Speaker 1: similar type games. And Seattle in that game had one
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety yards rushing. Again. Yeah, it's just a
Speaker 1: what's the Kansas City game? I'm looking forward to seeing
Speaker 1: that one too. That's just surprising, giving their person all
Speaker 1: Sue Donald Brockers. Yeah, is a good player. That's a
Speaker 1: guy that the Cowboys looked at drafting and the Mo
Speaker 1: Claiborne draft if they hadn't traded up. You know, that's
Speaker 1: he's a he's an outstanding player. Rockers and Bobby Wagner
Speaker 1: instead of Mo. How about that one? Is that right?
Speaker 1: That would have been the second round pick with Wagner's
Speaker 1: right Rockers was there at fourteen. Yeah, HiT's what that
Speaker 1: the Rams used to pick that they got from the
Speaker 1: Cowboys that pick. Yeah, it's right, ye yea. Thanks well,
Speaker 1: they had the draft gods someday smile on you someday,
Speaker 1: and they frowned on you the next They've been doing
Speaker 1: pretty well since. Yeah, all these first round picks have
Speaker 1: turned into all pros. They have, they sure have sure
Speaker 1: half okay, and then you look at okay. Against Kansas City,
Speaker 1: they gave up four forty eight passing to Mahomes in
Speaker 1: that fifty four fifty one game, ninety eight rushing. The
Speaker 1: other game they lost at the Saints, the forty five
Speaker 1: thirty five game, the Saints had four hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: seven yards of offense, three forty six passing in one
Speaker 1: forty one rushing. There you go, here's your recipe of
Speaker 1: that all. What happened to mister fix it? You know what? Though,
Speaker 1: But they're still thirteen to three, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They're they're they've got the they've got the home game,
Speaker 1: we're traveling. Yeah, and they're mid pack defense too. I
Speaker 1: think they're like thirteenth or fourteenth in points per game.
Speaker 1: It's not like they're giving up thirty a game. Well,
Speaker 1: they've put a lot of pressure on you. They're twentieth
Speaker 1: uh in points are scoring defense, scoring defense, they're twentieth. Uh.
Speaker 1: Let's see twenty third in rush defense and fourteenth and
Speaker 1: past defense. I misread that, which but that'll show you
Speaker 1: because they're ahead and a lot of games as past
Speaker 1: defense being just fourteenth gets taxed. But but actually it's
Speaker 1: better than what I would think. Yeah, but because because
Speaker 1: you're right, it gets taxed because they're they're throwing the
Speaker 1: ball to get you up right, So that says a
Speaker 1: lot about their past. Deems right. They trust me. I'm
Speaker 1: watching those guys play. There's there's some guys. Philadelphia was
Speaker 1: able to get some separation. Again this only game I've seen.
Speaker 1: I've seen all the offensive games. I'm gonna watch, but
Speaker 1: watching to leave and those guys they give up some
Speaker 1: separation now they do. I mean there's some routes and
Speaker 1: there were heck, uh, you know zach Ertz was getting
Speaker 1: some separated to leave. They don't flop their corners, so
Speaker 1: you know, if like if you if you play with
Speaker 1: a tight end to one side and know and all
Speaker 1: the receivers on the other side, they'll take whatever corner
Speaker 1: that is and put them on the tight end in coverage.
Speaker 1: And they were, they were running by these guys. So well,
Speaker 1: we'll see and I'm encouraged. I'm encouraged by this. I
Speaker 1: think that, you know, the strength of this Cowboy's offense
Speaker 1: is his ability to run the football, and if the
Speaker 1: Rams don't stop that, then they're going to get a
Speaker 1: big dose of that and hopefully set up some other things.
Speaker 1: One of the big things for them is their turnovers.
Speaker 1: They takeaways on defense. They're third in the league and takeaways.
Speaker 1: You played number one last week and that's right, and
Speaker 1: twelve twelve fumbles and eighteen picks for them. That's why
Speaker 1: they get to the ball they run. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: If you get a lot of it's like Seattle, you
Speaker 1: get a lot of turnovers when you run to the ball.
Speaker 1: Whenn't that The Kansas City game where they had yeahs
Speaker 1: craning mahomes was yeah, yeah, it was bad. That was
Speaker 1: a couple of defensive touchdowns. Thinking that sure it did, yeah,
Speaker 1: sure it did. So all right, we're just getting started
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Speaker 1: all right, very good, that'll be a good one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I might just go. Have you been to a boxing
Speaker 1: match at the stadium? I have m Bayo tack yo. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Didn't you go to the one here at the Star
Speaker 1: as well? And I went to the last one they
Speaker 1: had here? Wow? Was that Charles Spence? Fifteen seconds or
Speaker 1: something like that? You know it lasted one round because
Speaker 1: the guy got knocked down with about eight seconds to
Speaker 1: go in the first and the bell couldn't save him,
Speaker 1: so he got counted out. Is it Garcia that he's fighting? This? Hike? Garcia?
Speaker 1: Much better fighter, being much better fight this list? Albertstein?
Speaker 1: Where'd you come up from? Teddy Atlas? Teddy Atlas? I followed,
Speaker 1: that's just the best boxing. Don't you think he looks
Speaker 1: a lot more like Teddy Atlas? Ye? You're kitty, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm joking. I've seen a lot of nights in Vegas.
Speaker 1: What was the fight Appleton that night. Never been punched
Speaker 1: in the face that that. We went to a fight
Speaker 1: in Appleton that night, went, we went, We went and
Speaker 1: watched Pakiow fight. Uh somebody on TV? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was in Pacio. Was just dominating, dominating, and he
Speaker 1: had a couple fights here, right, and we had to dominate.
Speaker 1: And we had to go early to get in to
Speaker 1: get a seat to watch it on television or something.
Speaker 1: Drunks weren't already there lined up ready to go. And Appleton,
Speaker 1: I'm sure the bar was full when it was full.
Speaker 1: It's always full. It's I lived there, I know. Are
Speaker 1: you little college town? Were you with us that night?
Speaker 1: We were in Pittsburgh and we went and watched the fight.
Speaker 1: It was a paquo fight. It wasn't he crushed de
Speaker 1: la Joya. This is your life with Rob Phillips. I
Speaker 1: was just trying to just playing question. He's a boxing fan,
Speaker 1: he's a man, he's Albernstein. And then after we after
Speaker 1: we went to the place to watch it. It was
Speaker 1: kind of on the edge of downtown. And then we
Speaker 1: found out that like a week or two before there
Speaker 1: there was a murderer out on the street in front
Speaker 1: of this place, main streets of Pittsburgh. It was snow
Speaker 1: in that day too. Imagine that she's look at that
Speaker 1: memory on it. Believe you don't ask me what I
Speaker 1: had for breakfast yesterday. We saw what you had for
Speaker 1: kfast is cheesy, some type of cereal without milk. Speaking
Speaker 1: of knockdown, knockout punches, did you watch the Clemson game
Speaker 1: last night? Oh? Yeah, I am, I am. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: petition for an early out so I can draft Ross,
Speaker 1: the wide receiver from Clemson. Okay, you want him as
Speaker 1: your one? I want him on my team right now.
Speaker 1: Julio Jones, Junior's kind of that's two games in a row.
Speaker 1: Might not be Alabama's best defense, but surely was their
Speaker 1: best offense. Yeah, that's right. I mean that was the
Speaker 1: thing they have. Clemson a lot of credit for the
Speaker 1: way they played defense last night. Oh they were amazing
Speaker 1: Alabama Alabama championship. Yeah, Alabama. Again. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that was Alabama's best defense. Oh it was not, but
Speaker 1: I clearly know it's their best offense. You know, I said,
Speaker 1: I agree. I think that offense, Um, it hid some
Speaker 1: of their deficiencies on defense, no question, because and I'll
Speaker 1: take quinnin Williams though. Yeah, they've got the one dynamic
Speaker 1: player in the middle who tore up OU in the
Speaker 1: first quarter of that game. Right And O, you scored
Speaker 1: on six straight possessions last night, it was at one
Speaker 1: point before it was over. Alabama had given up scores
Speaker 1: on twelve out of fourteen possessions mount seventy one points
Speaker 1: the last three quarters of their game against OU, and
Speaker 1: the first three quarters of the game against Clemson. OU
Speaker 1: was just too late to start. That was the problem.
Speaker 1: They didn't get the jump that But the Clemson game,
Speaker 1: Clarence Hill on my show on CBS eleven on Sunday night,
Speaker 1: and I made the comment, I thought Texas defense was
Speaker 1: as good as Alabama's defense. Maybe personnel wise they don't have,
Speaker 1: but I thought OU had more trouble, had as much
Speaker 1: trouble against the Texas defense as they did the Alabama defense.
Speaker 1: And I think it was evident last night too. And Clemson,
Speaker 1: I mean they got some and there it is. Coaching
Speaker 1: is such a huge thing. I turned it off after
Speaker 1: the fake field goal. That's what I lost enough. I
Speaker 1: lost faith in the coach on the other side that
Speaker 1: everybody kisses his ass, you know, and Brent Venable's the
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator for Clemson is I mean, that's the reason
Speaker 1: they've turned around their program and what he's done with
Speaker 1: that defense. And as much as anything, I'm not talking
Speaker 1: scheme as he can recruit like so much a part
Speaker 1: of recruiting, whether it's college recruiting or in the NFL,
Speaker 1: finding the right guy is finding the right guys, identifying
Speaker 1: who the right guys are to draft or recruit, Like
Speaker 1: the guys in the middle with those weird numbers in
Speaker 1: the forties. Yeah, do you watch every one of those
Speaker 1: down line and they're all watch that defensive end playing Williams,
Speaker 1: you know, the defensive end. Yeah, you know that that
Speaker 1: against Williams. That was That's That's one of the first
Speaker 1: takes when you're gonna watch, you're gonna say, Okay, well
Speaker 1: what tape you want to watch? That Russian from Clemson? Oh, well,
Speaker 1: watch the Alabama game because that because that guy Williams
Speaker 1: for Alabama's gonna he's gonna be the first tackle taken
Speaker 1: in the draft. Boy, he made him look silly a
Speaker 1: couple of times. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's why
Speaker 1: you win. Players win right, coaching. Coaching is all good
Speaker 1: and fine and dandy and stuff. You got to get
Speaker 1: the players. If your players are better than they they
Speaker 1: don't run jackasses in the Kentucky Derby. They run real horses.
Speaker 1: You know, they ain't running donkeys. They're running horses. Here
Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, so if you have real horses, you're
Speaker 1: gonna win the Kentucky Derby. That's right. Yeah, that's amazing
Speaker 1: how Clemson has been able to kind of turn it
Speaker 1: around and recruit. I mean even back when Ford was
Speaker 1: Danny Ford was there, they had some players like that
Speaker 1: back in the day in the eighties that Clemson had
Speaker 1: some of those war Daddy players. They're talking about Refrigerator
Speaker 1: Perry damn right. Yeah, yeah, brother too. It's pretty good.
Speaker 1: As long as I'd watched them, they were always a
Speaker 1: program that lost a game that they could Florida State,
Speaker 1: Bobby Bowden kind of always had their number. They'd lost
Speaker 1: a bad Virginia Tech team or something like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're on par with Alabama, which who would have think
Speaker 1: anybody is good? Yeah? I mean how many tiers they won?
Speaker 1: The last three, four they won, the last two, last three,
Speaker 1: the last three now and yeah, two and two against
Speaker 1: each other. Right, yea, so they should they should have
Speaker 1: beaten him. Yeah, Cowboys, I knew this is coming. Arnesto,
Speaker 1: Virginia Beach wants to talk Cowboys. Arnesto, Hey, guys, thanks
Speaker 1: for taking my call. Um Cowboys playoff football. I'm loving it.
Speaker 1: Like Shannon says, let's cruse him and go get him. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, if this team keeps executing the way they
Speaker 1: have the past few weeks, I don't see any reason
Speaker 1: why they're not going to be in Atlanta. I think
Speaker 1: the number one team that was going to give us
Speaker 1: any kind of a fit, or the biggest fit was
Speaker 1: going to be Seattle. One because of the way that
Speaker 1: they played defense and we put up twenty four against them,
Speaker 1: and two because of the type of quarterback that they have.
Speaker 1: Our defense does have a little bit of a hard
Speaker 1: time with a mobile quarterback like that. For the most part,
Speaker 1: we kept him contained. We've bottled up that quote outstanding
Speaker 1: running offense, and we just took it to him. And
Speaker 1: anybody who doesn't want Dak as our quarterback anymore, I
Speaker 1: think you need to go find yourself another team. There's
Speaker 1: thirty one other teams played like a grown ass man.
Speaker 1: The man has grit, and the guy is a winner.
Speaker 1: He's not a tactician. You know, he's not gonna make
Speaker 1: it look pretty. But guess what, we had a quarterback
Speaker 1: that was tactician, that was technically sound and Tony Romo.
Speaker 1: Don't get wrong, I love Tony Romo. He did some
Speaker 1: things as an undrafted player that you never thought he
Speaker 1: would have done. But unfortunately he just wasn't a winner,
Speaker 1: and you cannot you can't measure that. So, you know,
Speaker 1: go Cowboys, Let's get this done. La. I know there's
Speaker 1: a lot of Cowboys fans out there. I'm from there.
Speaker 1: Let's go and not make this a home field advance
Speaker 1: from them. Thanks guys, all right, thanks Ernesto. Since the
Speaker 1: Cowboys were three and five grown, a man has led
Speaker 1: them to eight victories in the last nine games. So
Speaker 1: you could say it builds internet. Yeah that's sorry, Sure, sorry,
Speaker 1: I wrote it. Hey did apparently try. I don't understand
Speaker 1: why that. You can't say that on TV, by the way,
Speaker 1: but you can say it here. I mean way you can.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not a cuss word. I just say
Speaker 1: it and hope they dump it. That's what I do.
Speaker 1: I'm one of those guys, Brian said, I dropped the
Speaker 1: F bomb one time radio. Yeah, I got a letter
Speaker 1: from CBS that I had to sign, which is why
Speaker 1: I didn't say it. I worked for CBS. Yeah, was
Speaker 1: a Troykman. I saw this. He said on local radio
Speaker 1: this morning that he texted Dac and said, first of
Speaker 1: many playoff wins, He's gonna be here for a long time.
Speaker 1: I revamped the whole front office for you a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago. That was the Yeah, that was the narrative.
Speaker 1: That's the first thing I thought of. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: the old narrative. Then two weeks later he picked him
Speaker 1: to go to the super Bowl. Yeah that works. Yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever you have to do. But you know, I think
Speaker 1: he looked it was after the Cooper trade when he
Speaker 1: said that, and he probably looked at the rest of
Speaker 1: the division and thought, oh, maybe they'd win this by
Speaker 1: default if they did more. You've seen the rest of
Speaker 1: the division. He covers the league does that's right? Did
Speaker 1: more than that? Well, well, it was wrong with the
Speaker 1: rest of the division. Two the four teams they're still playing. No,
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with Billy. Philly got it together. I think
Speaker 1: Philly's got a shot in New Orleans I do their
Speaker 1: defense really, yeah, they got to wake them. I'd take
Speaker 1: New Orleans. Yeah. If you if you were going to
Speaker 1: think who of the of the of the top two seats,
Speaker 1: who do you think is going to play worst offensively?
Speaker 1: The Rams or the Saints. Who's got the chance not
Speaker 1: to be good that day? On offense? I think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have a shot with their speed on defense to
Speaker 1: make trouble for this offense. I really believe that, especially
Speaker 1: if it's got a soggy field and all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean this defense is flying around, sure, and it's
Speaker 1: the best strength they have. And it's the one thing
Speaker 1: in addition to the run game, which you mentioned earlier,
Speaker 1: that's what travels is the defense as well. They are
Speaker 1: built to win in the playoffs. I think they're better
Speaker 1: defensively than the Rams. The stats say they are. The Cowboys. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole body of worked throughout the season, I would say, yes.
Speaker 1: Do you think the Cowboys defense is the best defense
Speaker 1: left in the playoffs of the final eight teams? Is
Speaker 1: the Dallas defense the best? Statistically? It says it is.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think i'd AFC. I'm not. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what I don't know New Orleans, I know New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Is where's New Orleans ranked in all this? Though? I
Speaker 1: think if I had to say a defense, the most
Speaker 1: I thought the most balanced team overall through the whole
Speaker 1: year was the Saints when you look at offensively and defensively,
Speaker 1: how they played. Yeah, and as the caller mentioned, well,
Speaker 1: you know, sure they held the Saints to ten points.
Speaker 1: Saints held them to thirteen. So Saints made it difficult
Speaker 1: on them too. This is a great example. Yeah they're
Speaker 1: fourteenth in yards yeah, okay, well and scoring fourteenth also wow.
Speaker 1: But and this is where it gets to what you're
Speaker 1: talking about their high powered offense. Yeah. Past defense they
Speaker 1: are twenty ninth. Okay, but again rush deep and that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, rush defense, Yeah, their second rush defense.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no one's running on them. Ye see that's
Speaker 1: where I mean to me, I just kind of always
Speaker 1: felt like the Saints were the most balanced team, that
Speaker 1: they were the one they were the team that not
Speaker 1: only could they cause you problems scoring a lot of points,
Speaker 1: but they could cause you problems keeping you in check,
Speaker 1: you know, especially when they're at home. That they've always
Speaker 1: been a better home team, and now they have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to win two games at home and go to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So it sets up nicely for them
Speaker 1: on paper. The secondary, the secondary scary a little bit
Speaker 1: right now for the Cowboys. Not scary, I mean, does
Speaker 1: it make you is it give you pause? Scaring is
Speaker 1: a bad word. They've given a pause. They've given up
Speaker 1: some plays passing game wise deep the last couple weeks.
Speaker 1: That's what I worry. That's where I worry. I worry
Speaker 1: about the ball going down the field. Now, you know,
Speaker 1: with some of these receivers, you canna play some better ones.
Speaker 1: Not that the Seattle receivers were bad. Just worry about
Speaker 1: the Seattle. Seattle did your favor trying to run the
Speaker 1: ball all the time. I think that's what I said.
Speaker 1: But the fact, yeah, but the fact that you're right
Speaker 1: about that, by the fact that the game was so close,
Speaker 1: you know, and I mean I know it's what they
Speaker 1: do well, but it was just Cowboys weren't going to
Speaker 1: let him do it. No. They they were banging their
Speaker 1: head against the wall. Yeah, um, I'm looking. You know.
Speaker 1: He though he had a nice breakup and they those
Speaker 1: corners for Dallas battled in that game. I've never seen
Speaker 1: a guy cover so well and give up completions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he's there. Ball's got to be perfect. See,
Speaker 1: I'm saying you're playing quarterbacks. You think you're playing quarterbacks
Speaker 1: that are better than what you just faced as you
Speaker 1: go down the playoffs, right, Am I wrong about that?
Speaker 1: Usually the quarterbacks of the reason why, I mean, to
Speaker 1: potentially win this thing or to get in the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to beat Golf, and you have to
Speaker 1: probably beat Breeze, you know, and you beat Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: who you know, we all think me personally, I think
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's a you know, he's the top five quarterback
Speaker 1: when you look at it all set, but when you
Speaker 1: talk about overall game certainly. Yeah, whatever you have to
Speaker 1: do to beat him is hard because he does so
Speaker 1: many things and Golf's outstanding. He's had a great year.
Speaker 1: But you gotta pressure him. You gotta keep him from
Speaker 1: setting his feet. When he sets his feet, he's extremely
Speaker 1: accurate from what I've watched of him this year, just
Speaker 1: you know, might mainly just on TV, but um, you're
Speaker 1: gonna hang your hat on the Cowboy running game with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys playing defense in this one, which one running
Speaker 1: game you need one? Which one you're going with? Take
Speaker 1: the running game, I'll take Zeke. I'll give me the
Speaker 1: defense to limit what they're doing, because I think we're
Speaker 1: seeing you want to keep this thing as ugly as possible,
Speaker 1: don't you. Well, I think we're seeing all right. You
Speaker 1: don't want to get them rolling, No, get them wrong.
Speaker 1: We're seeing the Cowboys show that they can be maybe
Speaker 1: anounced offensively if theybe an Atlanta game. Maybe in Atlanta game,
Speaker 1: first half, Atlanta game, six to three, whatever. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was ugly. Yeah, something crazy like that. You get them
Speaker 1: at six three at half, you got a shot because
Speaker 1: then they're out of their comfort zone. Cowboys have won
Speaker 1: games a lot of different ways this year. And then
Speaker 1: how about the way the Cowboys have started every game
Speaker 1: on defense? You got only given up twenty four points
Speaker 1: in the first quarter all year. Yeah, that's huge, It
Speaker 1: is huge. Seat I'll have at the end of the
Speaker 1: first quarters five yards five yards yeah? Is that right?
Speaker 1: Five yards at three three and outs yeah, five and
Speaker 1: see that was their recipe in twenty sixteen. The other
Speaker 1: way it was their offense just I mean it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: every single opening drive of the game, they would go
Speaker 1: seventy five yards and score a touchdown, you know, and
Speaker 1: so they'd get ahead. Well this time there, they are
Speaker 1: able to take control of the game with their defense
Speaker 1: this year in the first quarter. Well, I tell you
Speaker 1: what you say there, You know you want to hang
Speaker 1: your hand on one. I want defense. I want if
Speaker 1: the defense plays like it played against Seattle, then they're
Speaker 1: in good shape. I think I'm with Mickey. I am
Speaker 1: with Mickey on this one. I want to physically, I
Speaker 1: physically want to beat them up. I physically want to
Speaker 1: if Mick kind of goes hand in hand. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: Mickey lets me run the ball and we finish drives,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I'm talking seven minute drives, eight
Speaker 1: minute drives. They're they're capable of scoring in thirty seconds
Speaker 1: the way they play, you know. But but for you
Speaker 1: going out there and physically beating them up, now you
Speaker 1: could you could affect the way by playing defense. You
Speaker 1: can affect that quarterback a lot. I mean, you could
Speaker 1: play good defense against them, but they'll still have twenty
Speaker 1: four points. Yeah, I don't think it'll be a thirteen
Speaker 1: ten game like the Saints game. If it's a thirteen
Speaker 1: ten game, the Cowboys have a great shot at winning.
Speaker 1: That's that's why I said defense because I go back
Speaker 1: to that Saints game where everybody fed off how they
Speaker 1: weren't giving an inch against Drew Brees and and I
Speaker 1: think you get the Rams out of their comfort zone
Speaker 1: if you, like you said, you get to halftime and it's, oh,
Speaker 1: we only got three points on the board. What do
Speaker 1: we do? You know, because the Cowboys have won games ugly,
Speaker 1: they want a lot of ugly games this season twenty.
Speaker 1: They'd love the nineteen Atlanta. Yeah that was ugly. But
Speaker 1: you know what what remember we were all talking about
Speaker 1: you're listening to me, just blow hard air out of
Speaker 1: Oh they've scored thirty one points a game at home
Speaker 1: and it's six to three and whatever, And I'm going
Speaker 1: cowboys got them right where they want them exactly. Cotoys
Speaker 1: have them right where they want them. They're not scoring,
Speaker 1: They're not going to score. To day. How did that
Speaker 1: game finish? Did did Atlanta score late? Yeah to get
Speaker 1: to nineteen? Yeah, it was it was they had a
Speaker 1: chance to. It was one of those remember they were Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Run that run three at the half, a deep touchdown
Speaker 1: pass right zone. Yea to Julio what Hulio, Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: It was one of those games where the Cowboys kicked
Speaker 1: their ass the whole day and then they give it
Speaker 1: up at the end, kind of like fill it. They
Speaker 1: went that little stretch where they were just beating people up,
Speaker 1: and they weren't they weren't getting rewarded for beat for
Speaker 1: being as as good as they were. Well, you remember,
Speaker 1: you remember how it ended Brett Maher at Maha with
Speaker 1: a forty two yard field they would have had with
Speaker 1: nineteen nineteen minute, forty last play of the game, Maher
Speaker 1: a forty two yard field game twenty two to nineteen.
Speaker 1: He'd missed an extra point earlier, but they the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were up. Zeke scored on a twenty three yard run
Speaker 1: to put the Cowboys up nineteen to nine, and then
Speaker 1: the Falcons came back with a field goal, a short
Speaker 1: field goal from Bryant twenty one yards, so they stopped
Speaker 1: him at the goal line, and then it was the
Speaker 1: Julio touchdown thirty four yards that tied it at nineteen
Speaker 1: with one fifty two left in the game, and Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: as he is want to do, let him down the
Speaker 1: field for a forty two yard field goal to win
Speaker 1: the game on the last play. That's when he was
Speaker 1: hot the kicker. Yeah, not not where we're all now
Speaker 1: worrying about kicking now. I mean he missed an extra
Speaker 1: point earlier in that game. Yeah, yeah, there's there's some
Speaker 1: he said the earlier on that fourth quarter. It makes
Speaker 1: you want to throw up. But you know what, you
Speaker 1: know what, Nate Nate had a good a good point.
Speaker 1: Uh last week he said when somebody was worried about
Speaker 1: Mayer and he said, you know what, now, you know
Speaker 1: what the rest of the league going through. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have been spoiled by Dan Bailey kid, you
Speaker 1: know ninety some percent. He goes. All these other kickers
Speaker 1: out there are in the mid to low eighties on
Speaker 1: conversion rates and they miss extra points. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you this, I think the best thing the league did
Speaker 1: is make them kick thirty three years points while you watch, now,
Speaker 1: don't you damn right? You watch? Don't go to the frigeration. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're you watch. It's like, how about the Alabama extra point?
Speaker 1: So that was ugly. I'm like they they they've tried
Speaker 1: to fake it. But anyway, No, I'm just saying, though
Speaker 1: the thirty three yard extra point is now a it's suspenseful.
Speaker 1: I would be like, let's just go for two. I'm
Speaker 1: taking what Yeah, I'm just gonna go for two. You
Speaker 1: gotta read a football style. Yes see, I'll kind of
Speaker 1: benefited from Janikowski getting hurt the other day. They go
Speaker 1: for two and then make it them. It would have
Speaker 1: been twenty four twenty game. But it hurt them. It
Speaker 1: hurt them for they It hurt them on the strategy
Speaker 1: at the end of the game. Yeah, man, all right,
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Speaker 1: let's go to Tampa. Let's check in with Alan and Tampa. Yeah. Hi,
Speaker 1: good morning guys. Hi Alan. So I wanted to debend
Speaker 1: my two cents on a couple of the points that
Speaker 1: you were just making. And I have been waiting half
Speaker 1: a season for you to address the awuzier that Mickey
Speaker 1: address that issue has been driving me crazy because I
Speaker 1: have the same opinion. How can a guy be in
Speaker 1: perfect position week after week and miss these plays? And
Speaker 1: I initially thought it has to be a coaching issue
Speaker 1: that this guy needs to be coached up on how
Speaker 1: to turn whatever he needs to do because he is
Speaker 1: in perfect position, but time and time again he misses
Speaker 1: those plays. But that addresses the other question that Brian
Speaker 1: was bringing up before. Are you scared about the secondary play?
Speaker 1: And it goes back to the question earlier in the
Speaker 1: week when you were talking about what do you think
Speaker 1: is the number one pick the Cowboys should try to
Speaker 1: make in next year's draft? And I'm concerned about the
Speaker 1: because you know, I didn't get the Giants game here
Speaker 1: in Tampa. But the few highlights that I got showed
Speaker 1: Heath not making plays when he needed to make some plays.
Speaker 1: And while I know that Woods is a big hitter,
Speaker 1: he can when I watch, And I think the secondary
Speaker 1: play is the biggest concern play often going into next year.
Speaker 1: And the final comment I just wanted to make is
Speaker 1: you guys were also talking about the last time the
Speaker 1: Cowboys won a road game, and you mentioned that San
Speaker 1: Francisco Championship game, and that too is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite games of all time. And I'll remind you that
Speaker 1: that was also a very wet field to remember how
Speaker 1: much attention they paid to the cleats and the conditions, etc.
Speaker 1: And again it was the Cowboys were not yet ready.
Speaker 1: They were like a year away, which I know exactly
Speaker 1: what I thought, and they shocked the world. And recently
Speaker 1: this past weekend, I think it was NFL they did
Speaker 1: a comparison on the triplets going into that season or
Speaker 1: into the playoffs that year, and our guys now Amari,
Speaker 1: Dak and Zeke the numbers were amazing, just absolutely amazingly
Speaker 1: similar in terms of yards per carry, etc. And touchdowns
Speaker 1: and so you know, I'm not counting them out, but
Speaker 1: my biggest concern is the secondary play oh and the
Speaker 1: final point, and Nicky was saying that he thinks in
Speaker 1: the draft they should get that back who can break
Speaker 1: it open, that fast back, And I'm thinking on Austin
Speaker 1: should be that guy. He's proven that he's a tough guy.
Speaker 1: If he can stay healthy, I think we can go secondary,
Speaker 1: and Tavon could be that half back um person that
Speaker 1: you put in there on those on those plays. So
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call, and uh, looking forward to
Speaker 1: hearing your comments. Well, that's all the time we've got
Speaker 1: today for the show. Say time to close the show.
Speaker 1: That's all good stuff, right, was good, you know, And
Speaker 1: and there was an if in there. Yeah, can he
Speaker 1: stay healthy? Yeah, because he hasn't. Yeah, and that was
Speaker 1: his problem the last year or so in LA. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sounds like he kind of chopping at the bit to
Speaker 1: go back. He's excited yesterday, Yeah he was. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: said he was hurt by the trade, a little disrespected. Say,
Speaker 1: he's got love for the Rams, but let me sure
Speaker 1: he's looking forward to this. Yes, the folks on periscope
Speaker 1: real quick concern about the secondary. I mean we talked
Speaker 1: about it a little bit, and just see if the
Speaker 1: folks on that are listening. To us right now, just
Speaker 1: type in yes, no on the secondary if you've got
Speaker 1: some concerns. But you know, I mean that's you know,
Speaker 1: they're in position. I think they're getting coached up, I
Speaker 1: really do. I mean, I just think there's been some
Speaker 1: some really incredible plays been made on the secondary, you know.
Speaker 1: And and I think they're looking for the ball and
Speaker 1: they're way with you know, they Richard also will teach
Speaker 1: them to react to when the hands go up. You know,
Speaker 1: they've made some plays. But remember the play at Woozia made.
Speaker 1: It was in Philadelphia. They had Jeffrey wide open in
Speaker 1: the back of the back towards the towards the pilot,
Speaker 1: and a Woozia came all the way across the field
Speaker 1: and had stuck his hand completely you know out and
Speaker 1: knocked the ball way off hand. So yeah, okay, they're
Speaker 1: starting to line up here a little bit. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I mean there's there's been some some
Speaker 1: concern there. We'll see Nope, there's some nopes and some
Speaker 1: y apps and nopes. So yeah, just and I think
Speaker 1: this is what people need to understand. So I've got
Speaker 1: the NFL passing leaders right here. I've got a dozen
Speaker 1: guys that have thrown for four thousand yards. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: two guys have thrown for five thousand yards. So how
Speaker 1: do they think that happened? This league? Completes passes. You
Speaker 1: are not gonna shut everybody down. You just have to
Speaker 1: do it within a reasonable amount and make some plays
Speaker 1: yourself to counter that. But if these quarterbacks are thrown
Speaker 1: for this many yards, does that mean every guy every
Speaker 1: team has bad cornerbacks. They complete passes, It's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It's happened in this league for the last twenty years.
Speaker 1: You're right, And if you're not going to pitch a
Speaker 1: shutout the key staff for me. In this last game,
Speaker 1: they gave up some passing plays, no question. But on
Speaker 1: third down Seattle was two of thirteen. Absolutely. You know
Speaker 1: when they need to stop, they seem to get it.
Speaker 1: And that includes their dbs and they've got They feel
Speaker 1: really good about their corners. I'll tell you that right now.
Speaker 1: I mean they got an All Pro. Yeah, they love
Speaker 1: cheetoh see that people are talking about. It's really fifty
Speaker 1: fifty what fans are talking about here. But they feel
Speaker 1: bad about the safety play, Okay, safeties. They worry more
Speaker 1: about the safety play than they do the corners. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know why, because the safeties are the last
Speaker 1: ones they look at when something breaks down, like they're
Speaker 1: trying to catch up and make up for somebody else's mistake.
Speaker 1: But you know, we've been talking the last few weeks
Speaker 1: about how well Xavier Woods is played. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: think that's the concerned Yeah. I think they're more concerned
Speaker 1: on Heath because I think they're blaming Heath for what
Speaker 1: happened the other day on the long pass, which one
Speaker 1: the one that the one they got to put them
Speaker 1: back in the game. Locket, Yeah, the locket pass. It's
Speaker 1: like to me, they were playing a robber. I adn't
Speaker 1: talked to anybody bad. Maybe ask scared about that. Today
Speaker 1: we have the opportunity. But they were playing a playing
Speaker 1: a robber look, which they had already done in the game,
Speaker 1: and they didn't give up a big play. So I
Speaker 1: don't still think the linebacker was supposed to hit him
Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage and didn't get him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because there was no corner on him. They played two
Speaker 1: wide receivers to the right right and he was in
Speaker 1: the slot and he got a free release and he's
Speaker 1: running free down the field across and he got all
Speaker 1: day to throw it too. By the way, Yeah, people
Speaker 1: are liking your they're liking what you're talking about, though,
Speaker 1: Rob third down. Yeah, I mean that that stat doesn't lie.
Speaker 1: But there's no question. I mean, you want to go
Speaker 1: back to I guess Tampa, what was it? So eleven
Speaker 1: times they feel absolutely and that's that's what counts, you know, absolutely.
Speaker 1: But you're yeah, I mean I get it. You're you're
Speaker 1: about to face a team that well, you face the
Speaker 1: team that makes a lot of big plays too. That
Speaker 1: a lot of big plays Hill last week. But you
Speaker 1: better worry about Gurly making big plays. There's no question.
Speaker 1: You go back last year. The touchdown that killed him
Speaker 1: was a fifty eight yards yes, girly, Yes on a
Speaker 1: little yeah, Dinky. I'll tell you what, Tyler Higbee, if
Speaker 1: you go back in the tight end, hurtch in that
Speaker 1: game too. I went back and watch that. Keep an
Speaker 1: eye on number eighty nine, Tyler Higbee, and they got
Speaker 1: another tight end, Gerald Everett. He makes place too more
Speaker 1: catches this year than Higbee, though Higbee starts yep. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: keep and keep Greg Zerline off the field. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: forgot he kicks seven field goals in that game, year
Speaker 1: seven seven, that's twenty one point. They only scored two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Legatron used to think you'd rather him be on the
Speaker 1: field than Gurley be in the end zone though, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: because because because of that, they almost beat him. And
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for a BS hold call on Travis
Speaker 1: Frederick on the two point conversion, it probably would have
Speaker 1: been an overtime game. And it was a BS hold call,
Speaker 1: all right. I do remember that one. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: about the pad placement, that's right, that's right, I got it.
Speaker 1: I got Mickey hakka Ley on that one. I don't
Speaker 1: want to have to pull out my white hat after
Speaker 1: this game. John Perry, this week? Is it? John John Perry? Yep,
Speaker 1: John Perry's got you got your the referee this week?
Speaker 1: Where you find with wald Anderson last week, for the
Speaker 1: most part, you know what, I was fine because I
Speaker 1: thought he let both teams play. I thought he was
Speaker 1: I thought they hey, those you know, for every every
Speaker 1: call that went against you, they had two two passenger
Speaker 1: ferreds calls, you know, and then in one series, so
Speaker 1: I felt like both of them were But I felt
Speaker 1: like that that crew let you play a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but John Perry, you got him this week. John Perry
Speaker 1: will let you play too. He's kind of a he's
Speaker 1: kind of a like look of the other way guy.
Speaker 1: They looked the other way on the interception in the
Speaker 1: end zone. Yeah, John Perry. Also, but you gotta worry
Speaker 1: about John Perry for roughing the passer. He's a big
Speaker 1: roughing the passer guy. Somebody needs to talk to Randy Gregory. Yes,
Speaker 1: please do it, all right, please do all right? That
Speaker 1: does it for Talking Cowboys for this Tuesday and Garrett
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