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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with our radio. We have a very special guest today,

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Speaker 1: somebody that made headlines and also an appearance on one

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Speaker 1: of our favorite shows, Bachelor in Paradise. She obviously is

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Speaker 1: a contestant we remember from Paradise because she is She's

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Speaker 1: always it feels like Ashley somebody that uh that sparks

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Speaker 1: not just controversy, but definitely enters into the mix. In Paradise,

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Speaker 1: She's definitely there to enter into the mix. She doesn't

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Speaker 1: stand on the sidelines. Who's our guest today, Our Jess,

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Speaker 1: Our Jess. Our guest is jes Senya Cruz. You know

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Speaker 1: her from Matt season and last season a Bachelor in Paradise.

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Speaker 1: She's a twenty nine year old former pageant queen and

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Speaker 1: this season it looks like she's going after Andrew quite hard. Now,

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Speaker 1: before we get her on Ben, I know that she

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Speaker 1: was involved in some drama last year, but this is

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Speaker 1: classic Bachelor memory. I know her as being somebody who,

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Speaker 1: like you said, is integrated in the drama. But I

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Speaker 1: have no idea what was so dramatic last year. All

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Speaker 1: I know is that she's a great character to have

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Speaker 1: on t day. Do you remember I don't. I don't remember.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember a lot um. But we're gonna ask her.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to you about her experience, why she

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Speaker 1: came back, because I know Paradise wasn't exactly easy for

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Speaker 1: her first time around. And then we're gonna talk to

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Speaker 1: you about her kind of pursuing of Andrew. I want

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Speaker 1: to know what it's like, Ashley, to be on the beach,

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Speaker 1: to know that this guy is interesting somebody else. He's

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Speaker 1: telling you he's interesting somebody else, and still being like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna still give it a shot.

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Speaker 1: That takes confidence, that takes grit. Uh, And I want

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Speaker 1: to hear where her mind was at through the whole process.

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Speaker 1: So hey, let's bring her on. Let's talk to just

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Speaker 1: send your cruise. Hello, just sen you? Hello? Are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good? Hey? You know we we prefaced it in

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Speaker 1: the intro Ashley and I were trying to remember exactly

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Speaker 1: what happened last season. We just know you're always a

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Speaker 1: main character, and you you feel like it feels like

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Speaker 1: you dive into Paradise, not in a good or bad way,

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Speaker 1: probably mostly good. You just dive in if you feel

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Speaker 1: like you take advantage of the opportunities in front of you,

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Speaker 1: which seems with the setup of Paradise to always involve

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna dive in head first love triangles, you're

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Speaker 1: always gonna find yourself in some type of like confusing

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Speaker 1: relationship dynamic. Uh. And it doesn't feel like last season

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Speaker 1: was the only time that's going to happen. Watching it now,

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Speaker 1: it kind of feels like it's gonna happen all over again.

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Speaker 1: So we're so excited to have you here and talk

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Speaker 1: about Paradise and talk about your life. Um so again,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us, Thank you for having me. Well

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Speaker 1: just sonya, Uh, did you know going into Paradise this

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Speaker 1: season that you're going to be entering as a group?

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Speaker 1: Good question, No, not at all. I think everyone kind

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Speaker 1: the later you go in the hard race to fill

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Speaker 1: the connection. So when I first arrived, I was just

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Speaker 1: I have no idea if I'm going alone or like

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Speaker 1: what the twist might be, because obviously we're going to

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Speaker 1: speculate to the point where it almost dress ourselves mad um.

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't until I literally arrived in the holding

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Speaker 1: few other ladies definitely helped. Oh interesting, see, I would

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Speaker 1: I'm like walking in with my competition, and I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not making like an individual entrance to make a splash.

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Speaker 1: But I guess together you made a bigger splash than anything.

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Speaker 1: How intimidating was it to be in front of the

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Speaker 1: It was so uncomfortable because so, yeah, I totally agree

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Speaker 1: they left now the girls that I talked about that

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Speaker 1: although yes he was linked to Brittany, they had only

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Speaker 1: the luckiest in that situation. Well, who was on your

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Speaker 1: Andrew was at the top of my list. Um. I

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Speaker 1: those were the two that was the most familiar with.

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Speaker 1: away with some lifelong friendships. As you guys know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's always one of the best um things that come

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Speaker 1: so then, was it hard for you? I mean we're

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Speaker 1: just already speaking about you know, you arriving to the beach.

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Speaker 1: You're not planning on arriving in the way that you did,

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Speaker 1: really never know what's going to happen until you're there.

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Speaker 1: And what sucks about that environment is that nothing's really

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Speaker 1: whether it's things happening towards you or things happening to

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Speaker 1: other people. It sucks to see your friends, for example,

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Speaker 1: it's just, you know, I've always had this firm belief

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Speaker 1: that you know, what I've seen how it works for

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Speaker 1: my friends from previous seasons. They're still together, they're planning

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Speaker 1: what I'll say that right now. It was just one

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Speaker 1: obviously that's my theory, you know, like, yeah, I've got

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. Yeah, it's a really a once in

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Speaker 1: it's me, pretty much saying like, I really want to

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Speaker 1: like the gusto to do it, to be completely honest,

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Speaker 1: and I will be frank. That conversation was extremely chopped up,

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Speaker 1: So it definitely a lot went into that conversation that

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Speaker 1: As I was even watching us, he's kind of going

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Speaker 1: aroundabout way of trying to explain this. Yes, he like

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Speaker 1: You're great, um, but I'm very interested in Bertie, but

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Speaker 1: next time, I've been actually and I've been Ben, We'll

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