Speaker 1: Hey, buh, why is there an elephant in the Who Was? Studio?
Speaker 1: Don't be ridiculous, Elliott. There's not an elephant in the studio.
Speaker 1: There's three elephants, two to represent each of our subjects today. Yes, P. T.
Speaker 1: Barnum and Harry Houdini both used elephants as part of
Speaker 1: their act, and of course our resident elephant, Geraldine. Watch out,
Speaker 1: she's gassy. But Elliott, why are you holding an empty
Speaker 1: mouse cage? Well, first of all, it's the mascot from
Speaker 1: my son's classroom. It's are weak to take it home.
Speaker 1: And second of all, it's not empty. The mouse is
Speaker 1: hiding under the cedar shavings. See oh no, where the
Speaker 1: mouse go? It's on your foot. That mouse is a
Speaker 1: Houdini level escape artist. Okay, be very calm. Don't let
Speaker 1: the elephants see the mouse, otherwise it might cause a seed.
Speaker 1: Maybe that the music will suthe them. Play us on
Speaker 1: what do you think you know about? The rates for
Speaker 1: the game is on. Get some energy and brookle up
Speaker 1: your brain because it's time to play THET podcast. Because
Speaker 1: it's time to play who Live from Tom Baland or
Speaker 1: so called so Call Los Angeles. Welcome to Who Was
Speaker 1: the history quiz show that gives contestants the chance to
Speaker 1: win mega prizes and podcast. Glorie, I'm your announcer, b
Speaker 1: and my birthday is always belated. And here's your host.
Speaker 1: He's the Lazy to my cagnet. It's Elliott Kaylin. Thank
Speaker 1: you be and shout out to star of Stage and
Speaker 1: screen Time Daily, Who Was Time Daily? A superstar? And
Speaker 1: welcome everyone to the Who Was? Podcast? This show is
Speaker 1: like Jeopardy only with surprise guests, silly games, and more
Speaker 1: network notes. Unfortunately, our contestants were sent Who Was books
Speaker 1: about two great figures from history. Now they're here to
Speaker 1: show off their knowledge and the hope sub winning fantastic prizes. Prizes.
Speaker 1: Pers today be prepared for the greatest show on Earth
Speaker 1: when we find out about escape artist Harry Houdini and
Speaker 1: the man who inspired the movie The Greatest Showman P. T. Barnum.
Speaker 1: But enough about them, let's meet our contestants, all right.
Speaker 1: First up, we have Declin. Declin, please introduce yourself, Um
Speaker 1: nine years old. I love comics. I vite them a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really liked Who Was? Books. Oh that's so good
Speaker 1: to hear. So Decline, if you write comics. Do you
Speaker 1: have a comic character that you have in a bunch
Speaker 1: of series. Yeah, but he's a little off a bad
Speaker 1: guy than a good guy. We love that. Could you
Speaker 1: share this bad guy's name with us? Zombieople? He's just
Speaker 1: like this guy video? So I'm pretty yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: um Decline Elliott also writes comics. Alright, I write comic books. Also,
Speaker 1: what about a bad guy who's kind of the zombie?
Speaker 1: So I guess I stole your idea? Sorry about that, Okay, okay, thanks,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Thank you, Techling. Alright, and we also
Speaker 1: have Josie on the show today. Josie, please introduce yourself. Hi.
Speaker 1: I'm Josie. I'm ten years old. Um, and I have
Speaker 1: a lot of hobbies. My weekend is awful. I have
Speaker 1: no three days. Well, okay, let's tell us about some
Speaker 1: of these hobbies we got, maybe which which ones are keepers?
Speaker 1: On Mondays, I have ballets, ballet on Tuesdays, I have
Speaker 1: piano on Wednesday, I have ballet on Thursday. I have
Speaker 1: ballet on Friday. I have tap. On Saturday, I have
Speaker 1: ballet and tap. I'm in a musical so it has
Speaker 1: my rehearsals on those days. Oh my goodness, this is
Speaker 1: a packed schedule. Yeah, and on Sunday, I have UM
Speaker 1: ballet well, Josie UM. We are so thankful you managed
Speaker 1: to fit us into your very packed schedule. Thank you,
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Yeah. I feel honored that that
Speaker 1: we were able to take you away from I assume
Speaker 1: seven different ballet rehearsals that that you had to do today.
Speaker 1: Today was the ballet you know, there's I'll say this,
Speaker 1: I'm impressed you're learning all that I wish I could dance.
Speaker 1: And if I could dance, I would give up everything
Speaker 1: else I can do, but I can't, So I'm very
Speaker 1: impressed that you can do it. I think that sounds
Speaker 1: like a good idea for a comic book, Elliott, the
Speaker 1: story of a forty year old man who gives up
Speaker 1: everything for the dancing compility, just for the ability to dance,
Speaker 1: and not even just even since I could just dance
Speaker 1: for a couple of nights, it would be so amazing.
Speaker 1: And depending on how you dance, you would be the
Speaker 1: villain or the hero of that story. M that's a
Speaker 1: very good point. I'll have to talk to Decline about
Speaker 1: what if I'm the bad guy? Maybe decinly can do
Speaker 1: the comic about me as a dancer. Well, thank you
Speaker 1: both for inspiring us with your artistic pursuits, and thank
Speaker 1: you to Eric, our musician, for providing that lovely live
Speaker 1: Meet the Contestants music and all the music on the
Speaker 1: show today. So that's who is. Now Let's find out
Speaker 1: who was Harry Houdini with four fast facts guys. Harry
Speaker 1: Houdini lived from eighteen seventy four to nineteen twenty six.
Speaker 1: Harry was born in Budapest and emigrated with his family
Speaker 1: to Wisconsin in eighteen seventy eight. He broke barriers by
Speaker 1: being the world's first Jewish celebrity magician. He spent the
Speaker 1: later part of his career debunking phony spiritualists who claims
Speaker 1: they could talk to ghosts. All right, so this is
Speaker 1: a fun subject because we're, you know, talking about magic
Speaker 1: and escape artists. I'm wondering if Josie and Declan have
Speaker 1: ever seen a magician and if they have a memorable
Speaker 1: trick that the magician did. Josie, have you ever seen
Speaker 1: a magician? Um? I have And this is like not
Speaker 1: a big check, but um, when we were on virtual School,
Speaker 1: we had a magician and he was like gonna do
Speaker 1: a perform mints. And I only remember one of his tricks,
Speaker 1: but it was like he had a special balloon and
Speaker 1: he had a big nail and he put the nail
Speaker 1: right through the balloon and it didn't pop. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: and it didn't pop the balloon. Wow, some kind of
Speaker 1: magic balloon. Amazing. I love that, Decklan. What about you.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a magician in real life? Yeah,
Speaker 1: a couple of times. The magician also made my sister
Speaker 1: flying the what that's amazing? How high up did she fly? Okay,
Speaker 1: so it wasn't like she she was went up into
Speaker 1: the sky and you never saw her again. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it was inside anyway. Okay. So that so this
Speaker 1: is the roof what he kept in. I once saw
Speaker 1: a magic trick that was so amazing where a magician
Speaker 1: had a big pad of paper and he drew a
Speaker 1: bowling ball on it and he wrote the words bowling ball,
Speaker 1: and then he closed the pad and a bowling ball
Speaker 1: fell out of it, and they opened up the pad
Speaker 1: again and it said bowling ball, but the drawing was gone.
Speaker 1: It had turned into a real bowling ball. That was
Speaker 1: the same night that I went. It was a very
Speaker 1: late night magic show, and I met should have said,
Speaker 1: look at this card. This is your card, remember it?
Speaker 1: And he did a whole bunch of tricks and he said,
Speaker 1: is this your card? And I had forgotten what card
Speaker 1: was mine and I ruined the trick. So I always
Speaker 1: pay attention if you're in a magic trick. I guess
Speaker 1: it's the lesson from that one. Yeah, exactly. That's why
Speaker 1: you have not been hired. Is that magician's assistant yet? Elliott?
Speaker 1: You know I've been trying so hard, and I have
Speaker 1: all the costumes. Anyway, we're talking a lot about magic,
Speaker 1: but we should clarify that Harry Houdini considered himself an
Speaker 1: escape artist. That is correct, Harry, how'd you get here?
Speaker 1: I will never reveal my techniques. Uh? You used the
Speaker 1: who was app right? I used the who was? That
Speaker 1: was that way? Yes, everybody's favorite encrypted messaging service to
Speaker 1: famous folks from the past, the who was app Well,
Speaker 1: I heard you were learning all about me today, so
Speaker 1: I came to perform one of my defying escapes for you.
Speaker 1: Behold as I Erry Houdini escaped from handcuffs wrapped in
Speaker 1: chains covered in glue, put in a straight jacket made
Speaker 1: out of cement while wearing a bow tie. Is the
Speaker 1: bow tie also a lock? No, it just looks cool.
Speaker 1: Here I go, Mr Houdini. This is very entertaining, but
Speaker 1: we kind of have our next game to get too, so,
Speaker 1: so you'd like me to read the questions while holding
Speaker 1: my breath? Got it? I don't think that sounds like
Speaker 1: a good idea. Hey, when has that ever stopped us? Eric?
Speaker 1: Plea the true or false intro? Please? True? False? It's
Speaker 1: a false? Is a true? It's the truth that it
Speaker 1: has false? Is it false that it was true? Or true? True? Poor? False?
Speaker 1: For this game, Houdini will read you a statement and
Speaker 1: then you will then let us know if that statement
Speaker 1: is true or you guessed it false. Declan europe first.
Speaker 1: True or false. My father was known as the King
Speaker 1: of Handcuffs in Hungary, which is why before I took
Speaker 1: his title, I called myself the Prince of the Air. Um.
Speaker 1: Now that's true. It's false. I mean that's right, it's false.
Speaker 1: That's well, you know what I mean. You got it right.
Speaker 1: Harry's father was a rabbi, not the King of handcuffs.
Speaker 1: Harry made up the name the Prince of the Air
Speaker 1: for one backyard circus he put on when he was
Speaker 1: nine years old. Later in life, he fibbed and told
Speaker 1: reporters he performed in many circuses as a child. He
Speaker 1: was all, now, this is a story all about how
Speaker 1: my life got flipped turned upside down. I'd like to
Speaker 1: take a manage to sit right there. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: how I'd bear in the name of the Prince of
Speaker 1: the Air. Next question is for Josie. True or false.
Speaker 1: When I was only thirteen, my father made me promise
Speaker 1: to always take care of my mother and on like
Speaker 1: chains and locks. I never broke that promise. That's right,
Speaker 1: it's true. Sadly, Harry's father passed away when Harry was
Speaker 1: young and made him promise to take care of his mother, Cecilia.
Speaker 1: Harry and his mother were extremely close, and he even
Speaker 1: missed performing for the King of Sweden so he could
Speaker 1: go see her when she fell ill. Next question is
Speaker 1: for Declan True or false. Everyone knows that I was
Speaker 1: the number one enemy of straight jackets, but did you
Speaker 1: also know that during a big stunt in London, I
Speaker 1: also became the destroyer of coats. False? No, that's true.
Speaker 1: Don't worry. It's okay, don't. During one of Harry's big shows,
Speaker 1: where he was put in the impossible to escape mirror cuffs,
Speaker 1: he tore his coat off on stage, only moments before
Speaker 1: he escaped from the handcuffs. This helped him become an
Speaker 1: even bigger celebrity in Europe, except, of course, with Taylor's
Speaker 1: They don't like it when you rip up their coats.
Speaker 1: Next question is for Josie that Taylor was very upset
Speaker 1: with me. True or false. While I made many escapes
Speaker 1: in my day, the one thing I couldn't escape was
Speaker 1: all the praise I got for being an incredible actor
Speaker 1: once I crossed over to making movies. I'm sorry that's false.
Speaker 1: Judini did make movies, and the early ones were successful,
Speaker 1: but he was never considered a good actor. Critics said
Speaker 1: he was a terrific escape artist who couldn't act at all.
Speaker 1: I'm free. I didn't perfectly timed because that's the end
Speaker 1: of the game. True, true, true, King of the Handcuffs
Speaker 1: has done it again. What was my time? Oh? I
Speaker 1: didn't realize I was supposed to be timing you. But
Speaker 1: isn't time and illusion? No, No, it's not. It's a
Speaker 1: very real thing that I was counting on to impress
Speaker 1: your listeners. Udini, we heard that you had a phrase
Speaker 1: that you were going to share with your beloved wife
Speaker 1: Bess to let her know that it was actually you
Speaker 1: communicating with her from beyond the grave. I'm dying, Pun
Speaker 1: intended to know. Yeah, thank you, I'm dying to know again,
Speaker 1: Pun intended. What was the phrase? It was abra abra cadabra,
Speaker 1: I want to reach out and grab y'all. Thank you, Really,
Speaker 1: that's what it was. No, No, it was not that.
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that phrase. It was meant for
Speaker 1: best and best alone. Geez, what an annoying question, Houdini.
Speaker 1: I have more annoying questions for you, So if you
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind, of course, sure sure. Oh hey, what's that
Speaker 1: over there? Where a major look? Magic? Houdini out peace?
Speaker 1: Thanks again? Who was app who was? By? Wow? The
Speaker 1: old major look? He truly was the greatest escape artist
Speaker 1: of all time? But hey, where are the scores? We'll
Speaker 1: check in with producer Jane to find out exactly that
Speaker 1: after we escape to a short break. Eric, please play
Speaker 1: us some Houdini music. I'm hugging myself. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: the Hulas podcast. Today we're talking about who was Harry
Speaker 1: Houdini and who was Pete Barnum? And now back to
Speaker 1: your host, Elliott Kaylin. Thank you be. Our two fierce
Speaker 1: competitors are off to a great start, and let's check
Speaker 1: in with producer Jane for the scores. Oh yeah, we
Speaker 1: are all tied up. Both contestants have one point. It's
Speaker 1: a close game, as close as any game can get.
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens as the show goes on, because
Speaker 1: the show must go on. That's what shows do. So
Speaker 1: let's find out who was Pete Barnum with four fast
Speaker 1: facts fool pays Phineas Taylor. Barnum lived from eighteen ten
Speaker 1: to His museum featured America's first aquarium. He was early
Speaker 1: to use promotion and advertising to create the world's first celebrities.
Speaker 1: Many people credit Barnum with the saying there's a sucker
Speaker 1: born every minute pass as well discuss p. T. Barnham
Speaker 1: did many things in his life, but his name these
Speaker 1: days is mostly associated with the circus. I wonder if
Speaker 1: either of our contestants have ever seen a circus. What's
Speaker 1: your familiarity with circuses? I have when I was a little. Um,
Speaker 1: I went to a circus, but we were high up
Speaker 1: so I couldn't see much. But what I could see
Speaker 1: it was really fun. And um, there was like a
Speaker 1: bounce house that I got to go on. And at
Speaker 1: the end we got a choice to either ride an
Speaker 1: elephant or a camel. What um. And it was a
Speaker 1: too hump camel, so I felt the camel so I
Speaker 1: could go with my mom. Okay, that's very sweet. If
Speaker 1: it had been a one hump camel, you think you
Speaker 1: would have gone for the elephant. Yeah, elephants are really cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: elephants are very cool. Yeah, fantastic animals. We wouldn't say
Speaker 1: that even if we had Geraldine, our resident elephant, here
Speaker 1: with us. Oh yeah, there she goes. Yeah, you're great, Geraldine,
Speaker 1: And we should say if there are any camels listening,
Speaker 1: camels are also great. We're not saying that you're not
Speaker 1: great to camels. Who just to imagine all the A
Speaker 1: letters we might have gotten from camels if if we
Speaker 1: had let that out and decline. Have you ever been
Speaker 1: to the circus? No, you've never been to the circuits.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen like a circus act on television
Speaker 1: or a film? No? No? Wow? But I had seen
Speaker 1: like bounced houses that look like circus is a little
Speaker 1: that's true, Okay, that's fair. Have you ever been inside
Speaker 1: of a circle? Yeah, a couple of times, like a
Speaker 1: hula who was something? Okay that fat counts. That's good enough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's close enough to being in the in the center
Speaker 1: ring of a circus. I like that. Now, listeners may
Speaker 1: be surprised to find out they know more about P. T.
Speaker 1: Barnum than they realized. If you watched the movie The
Speaker 1: Greatest Showman, it is incredably loosely based on PT. Barnum's life,
Speaker 1: though it's not very historically accurate. It's very dramatic. Also,
Speaker 1: it's very dramatic. I don't think pet Barnum's sang as
Speaker 1: much as he did in that movie. Also, but again
Speaker 1: it's not historically accurate. For one thing, h Jackman is
Speaker 1: way dreamier than Pete Barnum ever was, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: PT started out his career with his Barnum's American Museum
Speaker 1: m but this wasn't like a history or an art
Speaker 1: museum as we know them today. His museum was more
Speaker 1: about entertainment than reality. Maybe we'll find some objects from
Speaker 1: there in our next game. It's called Backpack from the Past.
Speaker 1: From the best we have here a backpack that contains
Speaker 1: some of P. T. Barnum's personal objects. Will describe those
Speaker 1: objects for our contestants and for the listeners at home. Contestants,
Speaker 1: you will choose which multiple choice answer best describes it.
Speaker 1: Since this is our second game, each question is worth
Speaker 1: two big points. Josie, this first object is for you.
Speaker 1: I found a d to some land. It says, this land,
Speaker 1: known as Ivy Island, now belongs to my grandson, Phineas
Speaker 1: Taylor Barnum. What is this about? Is it a prank
Speaker 1: pts grandfather played on him? Or be codes for how
Speaker 1: to get to a secret island on the third level
Speaker 1: of Super Mario Brothers three D World. What do you think,
Speaker 1: Josie us A, that's right. The answer is a A
Speaker 1: young PT. Barnham learned a lesson in building up anticipation
Speaker 1: in a hubb for an event when, at an early age,
Speaker 1: his grandfather got the whole town of Bethel, Connecticut to
Speaker 1: tell pet that he was going to inherit a beautiful island,
Speaker 1: but it turned out to be a dry, tiny piece
Speaker 1: of land. Got your grandson, Okay? The next object is
Speaker 1: for declan, Oh wow, it's a cool old sign that
Speaker 1: says this way to the egress. He might find a
Speaker 1: sign like this in t g I Fridays today. But
Speaker 1: what did PT use it for? Was it a a
Speaker 1: trick he played so customers would buy two tickets to
Speaker 1: his museum? Or b Egress is the neighborhood he lived
Speaker 1: in in New York City known as the Eighth Borough. Um,
Speaker 1: you're right, The answer is a egress is just a
Speaker 1: fancy word for exit, and it sounds like the name
Speaker 1: of like a cool bird or something. Pet used this
Speaker 1: to get customers to leave his museum when they didn't
Speaker 1: realize they were looking for the exit, and then charge
Speaker 1: them for another ticket to get them back in. I
Speaker 1: guess that's how he got his nick aim the King
Speaker 1: of the Humbugs. Pet was not above duping anyone. Now,
Speaker 1: let's see if this next object will dupe Josie. This
Speaker 1: object smells pretty terrible and oh my, it's really gnarly looking.
Speaker 1: It's like the head of a monkey with some kind
Speaker 1: of fish tail. What is this object? Is it a
Speaker 1: Pet's favorite lunch, the monk fish, which he first tasted
Speaker 1: in Europe? Or be the Fiji mermaid. Um, be the
Speaker 1: Fiji mermaid. That's right. The answer is be the fabled
Speaker 1: Fiji mermaid. This was not a real mermaid, but he
Speaker 1: advertised and ran stories about mermaids to build up excitement
Speaker 1: so people would buy tickets to see it. Yes, long
Speaker 1: before bieber fever ever existed, pet created mermaid fever and
Speaker 1: made a celebrity out of this, as he put it,
Speaker 1: dried up old thing. Oh my apologies, Fiji Mermaid. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize you were listening or alive. Okay, declin, This
Speaker 1: next object is for you. Oh everybody, look out, get
Speaker 1: out of the way. There's a trade a barreling straight
Speaker 1: out of this backpack. Oh boy, is everyone okay? Josie declan,
Speaker 1: you're right, Yeah, you're okay, okay, good Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Well this backpack is pretty strong to hold a train.
Speaker 1: But why is there a train in P. T. Barnum's backpack?
Speaker 1: Is it a from the traveling he did while campaigning
Speaker 1: for president or b it's the train he used to
Speaker 1: move the circus, making transporting the circus easier than the
Speaker 1: old horse and wagons that used to be used. That's correct.
Speaker 1: The answer is b having circuses. Travel by train was
Speaker 1: just one way PT revolutionized circuses. The other way is
Speaker 1: by expanding the one ring circus into three rings, which
Speaker 1: is still in use today unless you mean circus, which
Speaker 1: everyone knows happens in the middle of Celine Dion's biggest shows.
Speaker 1: We love you, Selene backpack from The Best Baby. That
Speaker 1: groovy music means the game is over. We're having an
Speaker 1: amazing show here today and we're gonna find out where
Speaker 1: the scores stand. Right to this break, Eric, play us
Speaker 1: some circus music. Please the magic feather? Hey, who was her?
Speaker 1: Want to make a shout out to your own favorite
Speaker 1: person history, famous or unfamous? Do you think your sour
Speaker 1: dough recipe is better than ours? Would you like to
Speaker 1: tell us your craziest dream. What I'm trying to say
Speaker 1: is we want to hear from you, so send us
Speaker 1: an email or voice memo at the Who Was Podcast
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. Welcome back to the Who Was? Podcast?
Speaker 1: Are two magically smart contestants are testing their knowledge of
Speaker 1: who was Harry Houdini and who was P? T. Barnum?
Speaker 1: And now here's your host, Elliott Kaylin. Thank you be.
Speaker 1: Now let's check in with producer Jane for the magical scores. Helloiott.
Speaker 1: Neither of our contestants can escape the other. They are
Speaker 1: both tied up to five points. M h wow, a
Speaker 1: tie game. This is something even Houdini might have trouble
Speaker 1: breaking his way at. That's true, I think about it.
Speaker 1: There's a lot about these two men that's hard to believe. Well,
Speaker 1: that's fitting neither Houdini nor Barnum. We're too concerned with
Speaker 1: the truth. But we are. And that's why we're going
Speaker 1: to play our next game. Two truths and a law
Speaker 1: truth just good. In this game, b will read three
Speaker 1: statements about one of our historical figures. Two of them
Speaker 1: are truths and one is a lie tell us which
Speaker 1: one is the lie? To earn three points. And this
Speaker 1: is the third game. Declin Europe first, alright, declin. Both
Speaker 1: Pete and Houdini loved entertaining crowds. Pete had no problems
Speaker 1: deceiving the public, but Houdini drew some lines for his performances,
Speaker 1: which one of the three following is not something he
Speaker 1: decided to keep doing in his act. Is it a
Speaker 1: hiding on land when the audience thought he was holding
Speaker 1: his breath under water? Be talking to the dead or
Speaker 1: see freeing himself from handcuffs provided by the local police.
Speaker 1: That's right. The answer is be. Early on in his
Speaker 1: career he pretended to be able to speak with those
Speaker 1: on the other side. They're researching deceased people in the
Speaker 1: town he was visiting, but he soon quit this. He
Speaker 1: said he felt guilty tricking people. It was different than magic,
Speaker 1: where the audience knew there was some kind of trick
Speaker 1: or illusion being used. Next question, Josie. Both Pete and
Speaker 1: Harry Houdini had some pretty famous friends, which one of
Speaker 1: the following was not one of them. A Sherlock Holmes author,
Speaker 1: Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, be Sigfeed and Roy or see
Speaker 1: Queen Victoria. Uh see, I'm sorry. The answer is be
Speaker 1: Sigrid Roy circus career started long after Pete Barnam had
Speaker 1: passed away. Houdini and Arthur Conan Doyle though we're good friends,
Speaker 1: but a well documented falling out over spiritualism. Conan Doyle
Speaker 1: feverishly insisted that Hudini had magic powers. Rudini knew this
Speaker 1: wasn't true because he was faking his magic tricks, and
Speaker 1: he kept telling his friend, no, I don't have magic
Speaker 1: powers he refused to lie to his friend. Oh what
Speaker 1: a mention. His mother, Cecilia would have been so proud.
Speaker 1: The next question is for declin Pt and Houdini. Both
Speaker 1: had acts that featured a Jenny. Which one of the
Speaker 1: following choices is the lie that was not an actual
Speaker 1: name of one of the Jenny's that they worked with.
Speaker 1: Is it a Jenny sofa and convertible, a set of
Speaker 1: talking love seats, b Jenny Lynde the Swedish Nightingale, or
Speaker 1: see Jenny the Disappearing Elephant. That's right, The answer is a.
Speaker 1: There is no talking love seat or talking furniture of
Speaker 1: any kind in either of their acts. Jenny the Elephant
Speaker 1: started in one of Pudini's biggest stunts when he made
Speaker 1: an elephant disappear, and Jenny Lynde was a Swedish singer
Speaker 1: that Pete Barnum promoted and took on tour all over
Speaker 1: the United States. Pet helped elevate her profile me a
Speaker 1: huge star in the US. And the last question is
Speaker 1: for Josie. Houdini and Barnum both showed support for the
Speaker 1: armed forces through their performances. Name which one of these
Speaker 1: was not one of those ways a Houdini donating proceeds
Speaker 1: from his show to soldiers in World War One. B
Speaker 1: Barnum showing pro union anti slavery plays at his American
Speaker 1: museum during Civil War. Or see Houdini teaching soldiers how
Speaker 1: to hold their breath underwater for up to an hour
Speaker 1: to help blow up enemy ships before submarines were invented.
Speaker 1: That's right, The answer is cee. Though Houdini did teach
Speaker 1: soldiers how to escape from handcuffs should it be taken
Speaker 1: behind enemy lines, he never worked with them on holding
Speaker 1: their breaths for long periods of time. Certainly not an hour.
Speaker 1: Nobody can hold their breast for that long? Or can
Speaker 1: they can? They can? They probably not though, And that's
Speaker 1: the end of the game. What a truly death defying game.
Speaker 1: It was a hard fought competition between those two competitors,
Speaker 1: and as we wait for producer Jane to reveal the scores,
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from these hard fought competitors. Let's
Speaker 1: stop being competitors for a moment and just be friends.
Speaker 1: What's something that you were may be surprised to learn
Speaker 1: about Harry Hudini and Pete Barnum. Josie is there anything
Speaker 1: about them that really stuck out to you. Um, I
Speaker 1: had no idea that PC Barnum did politics when I
Speaker 1: watched the movie, like it was only about his circus
Speaker 1: or year. Yeah, he was very dedicated to his home
Speaker 1: state of Connecticut through his politics with some which is
Speaker 1: something that I didn't know about. Yeah, when I think
Speaker 1: of P. T. Barnum, I don't usually automatically think of
Speaker 1: the Nutmeg State. But I guess you can take the
Speaker 1: man out of the Nutmeg State, but you can't take
Speaker 1: the nutmeg out of the man. That's Connecticut. Just think
Speaker 1: of the nutmegic and Declan, what what stuck at to
Speaker 1: you about either one of our historical figures? Well, what
Speaker 1: really stuck out to me about And that's the thing
Speaker 1: about pet Fobum was that actually he got tricked by
Speaker 1: the one and sixty one year old lady Like I
Speaker 1: actually thought she was that Oh yeah, me too, me too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And how did you feel when you found out that
Speaker 1: she was not a hundred and sixty one years old?
Speaker 1: I was like, you were shocked. For the listeners at home,
Speaker 1: you couldn't see the look of shock on Declin's face.
Speaker 1: It was real and it was intense and I felt
Speaker 1: the same way when I found out. Well, that is great.
Speaker 1: Thank you both. I'm excited that you were thinking so
Speaker 1: much about these people and their lives and just the
Speaker 1: things that surprise you about it. And now it is
Speaker 1: time for the big moment. The trick is about to
Speaker 1: be revealed. This is the prestige. If you will, Jane,
Speaker 1: please announce our winner. Well, an incredibly close game, and
Speaker 1: I hope we don't shock Declin when we tell him
Speaker 1: that he won with eleven points. Nice, nice job, great job, Declin,
Speaker 1: and a great job Josie. You played a great game.
Speaker 1: This was a close one. So now Declan as our winner.
Speaker 1: You have ten seconds for shoutouts. Who would you like
Speaker 1: to thank? Go for it, my family and my friends,
Speaker 1: lovely so Sainton to the point wonderful. I love it.
Speaker 1: And I'm also gonna piggyback on that and just shout
Speaker 1: out that when Josie saw that Declan, when she gave
Speaker 1: him a round of applause, and we love that here
Speaker 1: on the Who Was Podcast? We love a good sportsmanship,
Speaker 1: So thank you, Josie. Josie did pretty good too, Thank you.
Speaker 1: I agree you both did great and you should both
Speaker 1: be really proud of how you did on the show.
Speaker 1: Today our winner and their library of choice. We're receiving
Speaker 1: a selection of Who Was books, and I'm going to
Speaker 1: give a shout out myself to intern Zach Timpson for
Speaker 1: being our Houdini, to Jane, Eric and b and a
Speaker 1: big thank you to both of our contestants who played
Speaker 1: a fantastic game. Thank you to you at home or
Speaker 1: wherever you are for listening to our show. Join us
Speaker 1: next week as we find out who Was. Two more
Speaker 1: amazing figures from history. Until then, this is Elliott the
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