1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hey, buh, why is there an elephant in the Who Was? Studio? 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: Don't be ridiculous, Elliott. There's not an elephant in the studio. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: There's three elephants, two to represent each of our subjects today. Yes, P. T. 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Barnum and Harry Houdini both used elephants as part of 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: their act, and of course our resident elephant, Geraldine. Watch out, 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: she's gassy. But Elliott, why are you holding an empty 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: mouse cage? Well, first of all, it's the mascot from 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: my son's classroom. It's are weak to take it home. 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: And second of all, it's not empty. The mouse is 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: hiding under the cedar shavings. See oh no, where the 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: mouse go? It's on your foot. That mouse is a 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Houdini level escape artist. Okay, be very calm. Don't let 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: the elephants see the mouse, otherwise it might cause a seed. 14 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: Maybe that the music will suthe them. Play us on 15 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: what do you think you know about? The rates for 16 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: the game is on. Get some energy and brookle up 17 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: your brain because it's time to play THET podcast. Because 18 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: it's time to play who Live from Tom Baland or 19 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: so called so Call Los Angeles. Welcome to Who Was 20 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: the history quiz show that gives contestants the chance to 21 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: win mega prizes and podcast. Glorie, I'm your announcer, b 22 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: and my birthday is always belated. And here's your host. 23 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: He's the Lazy to my cagnet. It's Elliott Kaylin. Thank 24 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: you be and shout out to star of Stage and 25 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: screen Time Daily, Who Was Time Daily? A superstar? And 26 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: welcome everyone to the Who Was? Podcast? This show is 27 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: like Jeopardy only with surprise guests, silly games, and more 28 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: network notes. Unfortunately, our contestants were sent Who Was books 29 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: about two great figures from history. Now they're here to 30 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: show off their knowledge and the hope sub winning fantastic prizes. Prizes. 31 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: Pers today be prepared for the greatest show on Earth 32 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: when we find out about escape artist Harry Houdini and 33 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: the man who inspired the movie The Greatest Showman P. T. Barnum. 34 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: But enough about them, let's meet our contestants, all right. 35 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: First up, we have Declin. Declin, please introduce yourself, Um 36 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: nine years old. I love comics. I vite them a lot. Yeah, 37 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: I really liked Who Was? Books. Oh that's so good 38 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: to hear. So Decline, if you write comics. Do you 39 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: have a comic character that you have in a bunch 40 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: of series. Yeah, but he's a little off a bad 41 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: guy than a good guy. We love that. Could you 42 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: share this bad guy's name with us? Zombieople? He's just 43 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: like this guy video? So I'm pretty yeah, and you know, 44 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: um Decline Elliott also writes comics. Alright, I write comic books. Also, 45 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: what about a bad guy who's kind of the zombie? 46 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: So I guess I stole your idea? Sorry about that, Okay, okay, thanks, 47 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Thank you, Techling. Alright, and we also 48 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: have Josie on the show today. Josie, please introduce yourself. Hi. 49 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm Josie. I'm ten years old. Um, and I have 50 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: a lot of hobbies. My weekend is awful. I have 51 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: no three days. Well, okay, let's tell us about some 52 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: of these hobbies we got, maybe which which ones are keepers? 53 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: On Mondays, I have ballets, ballet on Tuesdays, I have 54 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: piano on Wednesday, I have ballet on Thursday. I have 55 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: ballet on Friday. I have tap. On Saturday, I have 56 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: ballet and tap. I'm in a musical so it has 57 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: my rehearsals on those days. Oh my goodness, this is 58 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: a packed schedule. Yeah, and on Sunday, I have UM 59 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: ballet well, Josie UM. We are so thankful you managed 60 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: to fit us into your very packed schedule. Thank you, 61 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Yeah. I feel honored that that 62 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: we were able to take you away from I assume 63 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: seven different ballet rehearsals that that you had to do today. 64 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: Today was the ballet you know, there's I'll say this, 65 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm impressed you're learning all that I wish I could dance. 66 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: And if I could dance, I would give up everything 67 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: else I can do, but I can't, So I'm very 68 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: impressed that you can do it. I think that sounds 69 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: like a good idea for a comic book, Elliott, the 70 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: story of a forty year old man who gives up 71 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: everything for the dancing compility, just for the ability to dance, 72 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: and not even just even since I could just dance 73 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: for a couple of nights, it would be so amazing. 74 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: And depending on how you dance, you would be the 75 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: villain or the hero of that story. M that's a 76 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: very good point. I'll have to talk to Decline about 77 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: what if I'm the bad guy? Maybe decinly can do 78 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: the comic about me as a dancer. Well, thank you 79 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: both for inspiring us with your artistic pursuits, and thank 80 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: you to Eric, our musician, for providing that lovely live 81 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: Meet the Contestants music and all the music on the 82 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: show today. So that's who is. Now Let's find out 83 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: who was Harry Houdini with four fast facts guys. Harry 84 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: Houdini lived from eighteen seventy four to nineteen twenty six. 85 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: Harry was born in Budapest and emigrated with his family 86 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: to Wisconsin in eighteen seventy eight. He broke barriers by 87 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: being the world's first Jewish celebrity magician. He spent the 88 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: later part of his career debunking phony spiritualists who claims 89 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: they could talk to ghosts. All right, so this is 90 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: a fun subject because we're, you know, talking about magic 91 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: and escape artists. I'm wondering if Josie and Declan have 92 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: ever seen a magician and if they have a memorable 93 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: trick that the magician did. Josie, have you ever seen 94 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: a magician? Um? I have And this is like not 95 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: a big check, but um, when we were on virtual School, 96 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: we had a magician and he was like gonna do 97 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: a perform mints. And I only remember one of his tricks, 98 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: but it was like he had a special balloon and 99 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: he had a big nail and he put the nail 100 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: right through the balloon and it didn't pop. Oh my god, 101 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: and it didn't pop the balloon. Wow, some kind of 102 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: magic balloon. Amazing. I love that, Decklan. What about you. 103 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a magician in real life? Yeah, 104 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: a couple of times. The magician also made my sister 105 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: flying the what that's amazing? How high up did she fly? Okay, 106 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: so it wasn't like she she was went up into 107 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: the sky and you never saw her again. Yeah, I 108 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: mean it was inside anyway. Okay. So that so this 109 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: is the roof what he kept in. I once saw 110 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: a magic trick that was so amazing where a magician 111 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: had a big pad of paper and he drew a 112 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: bowling ball on it and he wrote the words bowling ball, 113 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: and then he closed the pad and a bowling ball 114 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: fell out of it, and they opened up the pad 115 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: again and it said bowling ball, but the drawing was gone. 116 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: It had turned into a real bowling ball. That was 117 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: the same night that I went. It was a very 118 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: late night magic show, and I met should have said, 119 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: look at this card. This is your card, remember it? 120 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: And he did a whole bunch of tricks and he said, 121 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: is this your card? And I had forgotten what card 122 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: was mine and I ruined the trick. So I always 123 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: pay attention if you're in a magic trick. I guess 124 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: it's the lesson from that one. Yeah, exactly. That's why 125 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: you have not been hired. Is that magician's assistant yet? Elliott? 126 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: You know I've been trying so hard, and I have 127 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: all the costumes. Anyway, we're talking a lot about magic, 128 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: but we should clarify that Harry Houdini considered himself an 129 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: escape artist. That is correct, Harry, how'd you get here? 130 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: I will never reveal my techniques. Uh? You used the 131 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: who was app right? I used the who was? That 132 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: was that way? Yes, everybody's favorite encrypted messaging service to 133 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: famous folks from the past, the who was app Well, 134 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: I heard you were learning all about me today, so 135 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: I came to perform one of my defying escapes for you. 136 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: Behold as I Erry Houdini escaped from handcuffs wrapped in 137 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: chains covered in glue, put in a straight jacket made 138 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: out of cement while wearing a bow tie. Is the 139 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: bow tie also a lock? No, it just looks cool. 140 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: Here I go, Mr Houdini. This is very entertaining, but 141 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: we kind of have our next game to get too, so, 142 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: so you'd like me to read the questions while holding 143 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: my breath? Got it? I don't think that sounds like 144 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: a good idea. Hey, when has that ever stopped us? Eric? 145 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: Plea the true or false intro? Please? True? False? It's 146 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 1: a false? Is a true? It's the truth that it 147 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: has false? Is it false that it was true? Or true? True? Poor? False? 148 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: For this game, Houdini will read you a statement and 149 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: then you will then let us know if that statement 150 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: is true or you guessed it false. Declan europe first. 151 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: True or false. My father was known as the King 152 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: of Handcuffs in Hungary, which is why before I took 153 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: his title, I called myself the Prince of the Air. Um. 154 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: Now that's true. It's false. I mean that's right, it's false. 155 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: That's well, you know what I mean. You got it right. 156 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: Harry's father was a rabbi, not the King of handcuffs. 157 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: Harry made up the name the Prince of the Air 158 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: for one backyard circus he put on when he was 159 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: nine years old. Later in life, he fibbed and told 160 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: reporters he performed in many circuses as a child. He 161 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: was all, now, this is a story all about how 162 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: my life got flipped turned upside down. I'd like to 163 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: take a manage to sit right there. I'll tell you 164 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: how I'd bear in the name of the Prince of 165 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: the Air. Next question is for Josie. True or false. 166 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: When I was only thirteen, my father made me promise 167 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: to always take care of my mother and on like 168 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: chains and locks. I never broke that promise. That's right, 169 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: it's true. Sadly, Harry's father passed away when Harry was 170 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: young and made him promise to take care of his mother, Cecilia. 171 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: Harry and his mother were extremely close, and he even 172 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: missed performing for the King of Sweden so he could 173 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: go see her when she fell ill. Next question is 174 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: for Declan True or false. Everyone knows that I was 175 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: the number one enemy of straight jackets, but did you 176 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: also know that during a big stunt in London, I 177 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: also became the destroyer of coats. False? No, that's true. 178 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: Don't worry. It's okay, don't. During one of Harry's big shows, 179 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: where he was put in the impossible to escape mirror cuffs, 180 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: he tore his coat off on stage, only moments before 181 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: he escaped from the handcuffs. This helped him become an 182 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: even bigger celebrity in Europe, except, of course, with Taylor's 183 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: They don't like it when you rip up their coats. 184 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: Next question is for Josie that Taylor was very upset 185 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: with me. True or false. While I made many escapes 186 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: in my day, the one thing I couldn't escape was 187 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: all the praise I got for being an incredible actor 188 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: once I crossed over to making movies. I'm sorry that's false. 189 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: Judini did make movies, and the early ones were successful, 190 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: but he was never considered a good actor. Critics said 191 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: he was a terrific escape artist who couldn't act at all. 192 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm free. I didn't perfectly timed because that's the end 193 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:31,239 Speaker 1: of the game. True, true, true, King of the Handcuffs 194 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: has done it again. What was my time? Oh? I 195 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: didn't realize I was supposed to be timing you. But 196 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: isn't time and illusion? No, No, it's not. It's a 197 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: very real thing that I was counting on to impress 198 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: your listeners. Udini, we heard that you had a phrase 199 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: that you were going to share with your beloved wife 200 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: Bess to let her know that it was actually you 201 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: communicating with her from beyond the grave. I'm dying, Pun 202 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: intended to know. Yeah, thank you, I'm dying to know again, 203 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: Pun intended. What was the phrase? It was abra abra cadabra, 204 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: I want to reach out and grab y'all. Thank you, Really, 205 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: that's what it was. No, No, it was not that. 206 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that phrase. It was meant for 207 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: best and best alone. Geez, what an annoying question, Houdini. 208 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: I have more annoying questions for you, So if you 209 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't mind, of course, sure sure. Oh hey, what's that 210 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: over there? Where a major look? Magic? Houdini out peace? 211 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: Thanks again? Who was app who was? By? Wow? The 212 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: old major look? He truly was the greatest escape artist 213 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: of all time? But hey, where are the scores? We'll 214 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: check in with producer Jane to find out exactly that 215 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: after we escape to a short break. Eric, please play 216 00:12:48,840 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: us some Houdini music. I'm hugging myself. Welcome back to 217 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: the Hulas podcast. Today we're talking about who was Harry 218 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: Houdini and who was Pete Barnum? And now back to 219 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: your host, Elliott Kaylin. Thank you be. Our two fierce 220 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: competitors are off to a great start, and let's check 221 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: in with producer Jane for the scores. Oh yeah, we 222 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: are all tied up. Both contestants have one point. It's 223 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: a close game, as close as any game can get. 224 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: Let's see what happens as the show goes on, because 225 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: the show must go on. That's what shows do. So 226 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: let's find out who was Pete Barnum with four fast 227 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: facts fool pays Phineas Taylor. Barnum lived from eighteen ten 228 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: to His museum featured America's first aquarium. He was early 229 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: to use promotion and advertising to create the world's first celebrities. 230 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: Many people credit Barnum with the saying there's a sucker 231 00:13:54,559 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: born every minute pass as well discuss p. T. Barnham 232 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: did many things in his life, but his name these 233 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: days is mostly associated with the circus. I wonder if 234 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: either of our contestants have ever seen a circus. What's 235 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: your familiarity with circuses? I have when I was a little. Um, 236 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: I went to a circus, but we were high up 237 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: so I couldn't see much. But what I could see 238 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: it was really fun. And um, there was like a 239 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: bounce house that I got to go on. And at 240 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: the end we got a choice to either ride an 241 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: elephant or a camel. What um. And it was a 242 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: too hump camel, so I felt the camel so I 243 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: could go with my mom. Okay, that's very sweet. If 244 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: it had been a one hump camel, you think you 245 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: would have gone for the elephant. Yeah, elephants are really cool. Yeah, 246 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: elephants are very cool. Yeah, fantastic animals. We wouldn't say 247 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: that even if we had Geraldine, our resident elephant, here 248 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: with us. Oh yeah, there she goes. Yeah, you're great, Geraldine, 249 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: And we should say if there are any camels listening, 250 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: camels are also great. We're not saying that you're not 251 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: great to camels. Who just to imagine all the A 252 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: letters we might have gotten from camels if if we 253 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: had let that out and decline. Have you ever been 254 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: to the circus? No, you've never been to the circuits. 255 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen like a circus act on television 256 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: or a film? No? No? Wow? But I had seen 257 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: like bounced houses that look like circus is a little 258 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: that's true, Okay, that's fair. Have you ever been inside 259 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: of a circle? Yeah, a couple of times, like a 260 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: hula who was something? Okay that fat counts. That's good enough. Yeah, 261 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: that's close enough to being in the in the center 262 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: ring of a circus. I like that. Now, listeners may 263 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: be surprised to find out they know more about P. T. 264 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: Barnum than they realized. If you watched the movie The 265 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: Greatest Showman, it is incredably loosely based on PT. Barnum's life, 266 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: though it's not very historically accurate. It's very dramatic. Also, 267 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: it's very dramatic. I don't think pet Barnum's sang as 268 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: much as he did in that movie. Also, but again 269 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: it's not historically accurate. For one thing, h Jackman is 270 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: way dreamier than Pete Barnum ever was, that's for sure. 271 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: PT started out his career with his Barnum's American Museum 272 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: m but this wasn't like a history or an art 273 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: museum as we know them today. His museum was more 274 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: about entertainment than reality. Maybe we'll find some objects from 275 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: there in our next game. It's called Backpack from the Past. 276 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: From the best we have here a backpack that contains 277 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: some of P. T. Barnum's personal objects. Will describe those 278 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: objects for our contestants and for the listeners at home. Contestants, 279 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: you will choose which multiple choice answer best describes it. 280 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: Since this is our second game, each question is worth 281 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: two big points. Josie, this first object is for you. 282 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: I found a d to some land. It says, this land, 283 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: known as Ivy Island, now belongs to my grandson, Phineas 284 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: Taylor Barnum. What is this about? Is it a prank 285 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: pts grandfather played on him? Or be codes for how 286 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: to get to a secret island on the third level 287 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: of Super Mario Brothers three D World. What do you think, 288 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: Josie us A, that's right. The answer is a A 289 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: young PT. Barnham learned a lesson in building up anticipation 290 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: in a hubb for an event when, at an early age, 291 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: his grandfather got the whole town of Bethel, Connecticut to 292 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: tell pet that he was going to inherit a beautiful island, 293 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: but it turned out to be a dry, tiny piece 294 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: of land. Got your grandson, Okay? The next object is 295 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: for declan, Oh wow, it's a cool old sign that 296 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: says this way to the egress. He might find a 297 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: sign like this in t g I Fridays today. But 298 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: what did PT use it for? Was it a a 299 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: trick he played so customers would buy two tickets to 300 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: his museum? Or b Egress is the neighborhood he lived 301 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: in in New York City known as the Eighth Borough. Um, 302 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: you're right, The answer is a egress is just a 303 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: fancy word for exit, and it sounds like the name 304 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: of like a cool bird or something. Pet used this 305 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: to get customers to leave his museum when they didn't 306 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: realize they were looking for the exit, and then charge 307 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: them for another ticket to get them back in. I 308 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: guess that's how he got his nick aim the King 309 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: of the Humbugs. Pet was not above duping anyone. Now, 310 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: let's see if this next object will dupe Josie. This 311 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 1: object smells pretty terrible and oh my, it's really gnarly looking. 312 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: It's like the head of a monkey with some kind 313 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: of fish tail. What is this object? Is it a 314 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: Pet's favorite lunch, the monk fish, which he first tasted 315 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: in Europe? Or be the Fiji mermaid. Um, be the 316 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: Fiji mermaid. That's right. The answer is be the fabled 317 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: Fiji mermaid. This was not a real mermaid, but he 318 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: advertised and ran stories about mermaids to build up excitement 319 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: so people would buy tickets to see it. Yes, long 320 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: before bieber fever ever existed, pet created mermaid fever and 321 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: made a celebrity out of this, as he put it, 322 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: dried up old thing. Oh my apologies, Fiji Mermaid. I 323 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: didn't realize you were listening or alive. Okay, declin, This 324 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: next object is for you. Oh everybody, look out, get 325 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: out of the way. There's a trade a barreling straight 326 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: out of this backpack. Oh boy, is everyone okay? Josie declan, 327 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: you're right, Yeah, you're okay, okay, good Oh my goodness. 328 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: Well this backpack is pretty strong to hold a train. 329 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: But why is there a train in P. T. Barnum's backpack? 330 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: Is it a from the traveling he did while campaigning 331 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: for president or b it's the train he used to 332 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: move the circus, making transporting the circus easier than the 333 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: old horse and wagons that used to be used. That's correct. 334 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: The answer is b having circuses. Travel by train was 335 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: just one way PT revolutionized circuses. The other way is 336 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: by expanding the one ring circus into three rings, which 337 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: is still in use today unless you mean circus, which 338 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: everyone knows happens in the middle of Celine Dion's biggest shows. 339 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: We love you, Selene backpack from The Best Baby. That 340 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: groovy music means the game is over. We're having an 341 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: amazing show here today and we're gonna find out where 342 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: the scores stand. Right to this break, Eric, play us 343 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: some circus music. Please the magic feather? Hey, who was her? 344 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: Want to make a shout out to your own favorite 345 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: person history, famous or unfamous? Do you think your sour 346 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: dough recipe is better than ours? Would you like to 347 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: tell us your craziest dream. What I'm trying to say 348 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: is we want to hear from you, so send us 349 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: an email or voice memo at the Who Was Podcast 350 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. Welcome back to the Who Was? Podcast? 351 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: Are two magically smart contestants are testing their knowledge of 352 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: who was Harry Houdini and who was P? T. Barnum? 353 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: And now here's your host, Elliott Kaylin. Thank you be. 354 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: Now let's check in with producer Jane for the magical scores. Helloiott. 355 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: Neither of our contestants can escape the other. They are 356 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: both tied up to five points. M h wow, a 357 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: tie game. This is something even Houdini might have trouble 358 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: breaking his way at. That's true, I think about it. 359 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: There's a lot about these two men that's hard to believe. Well, 360 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: that's fitting neither Houdini nor Barnum. We're too concerned with 361 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: the truth. But we are. And that's why we're going 362 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: to play our next game. Two truths and a law 363 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: truth just good. In this game, b will read three 364 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: statements about one of our historical figures. Two of them 365 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: are truths and one is a lie tell us which 366 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: one is the lie? To earn three points. And this 367 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: is the third game. Declin Europe first, alright, declin. Both 368 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: Pete and Houdini loved entertaining crowds. Pete had no problems 369 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: deceiving the public, but Houdini drew some lines for his performances, 370 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: which one of the three following is not something he 371 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: decided to keep doing in his act. Is it a 372 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: hiding on land when the audience thought he was holding 373 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: his breath under water? Be talking to the dead or 374 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: see freeing himself from handcuffs provided by the local police. 375 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: That's right. The answer is be. Early on in his 376 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 1: career he pretended to be able to speak with those 377 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: on the other side. They're researching deceased people in the 378 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: town he was visiting, but he soon quit this. He 379 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: said he felt guilty tricking people. It was different than magic, 380 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: where the audience knew there was some kind of trick 381 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: or illusion being used. Next question, Josie. Both Pete and 382 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: Harry Houdini had some pretty famous friends, which one of 383 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: the following was not one of them. A Sherlock Holmes author, 384 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, be Sigfeed and Roy or see 385 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: Queen Victoria. Uh see, I'm sorry. The answer is be 386 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,239 Speaker 1: Sigrid Roy circus career started long after Pete Barnam had 387 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: passed away. Houdini and Arthur Conan Doyle though we're good friends, 388 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: but a well documented falling out over spiritualism. Conan Doyle 389 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: feverishly insisted that Hudini had magic powers. Rudini knew this 390 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: wasn't true because he was faking his magic tricks, and 391 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: he kept telling his friend, no, I don't have magic 392 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: powers he refused to lie to his friend. Oh what 393 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: a mention. His mother, Cecilia would have been so proud. 394 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: The next question is for declin Pt and Houdini. Both 395 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: had acts that featured a Jenny. Which one of the 396 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: following choices is the lie that was not an actual 397 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: name of one of the Jenny's that they worked with. 398 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: Is it a Jenny sofa and convertible, a set of 399 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: talking love seats, b Jenny Lynde the Swedish Nightingale, or 400 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: see Jenny the Disappearing Elephant. That's right, The answer is a. 401 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: There is no talking love seat or talking furniture of 402 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: any kind in either of their acts. Jenny the Elephant 403 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: started in one of Pudini's biggest stunts when he made 404 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: an elephant disappear, and Jenny Lynde was a Swedish singer 405 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: that Pete Barnum promoted and took on tour all over 406 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: the United States. Pet helped elevate her profile me a 407 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: huge star in the US. And the last question is 408 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: for Josie. Houdini and Barnum both showed support for the 409 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: armed forces through their performances. Name which one of these 410 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: was not one of those ways a Houdini donating proceeds 411 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: from his show to soldiers in World War One. B 412 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: Barnum showing pro union anti slavery plays at his American 413 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: museum during Civil War. Or see Houdini teaching soldiers how 414 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: to hold their breath underwater for up to an hour 415 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: to help blow up enemy ships before submarines were invented. 416 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: That's right, The answer is cee. Though Houdini did teach 417 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: soldiers how to escape from handcuffs should it be taken 418 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: behind enemy lines, he never worked with them on holding 419 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: their breaths for long periods of time. Certainly not an hour. 420 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: Nobody can hold their breast for that long? Or can 421 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: they can? They can? They probably not though, And that's 422 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: the end of the game. What a truly death defying game. 423 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: It was a hard fought competition between those two competitors, 424 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: and as we wait for producer Jane to reveal the scores, 425 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from these hard fought competitors. Let's 426 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,719 Speaker 1: stop being competitors for a moment and just be friends. 427 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: What's something that you were may be surprised to learn 428 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: about Harry Hudini and Pete Barnum. Josie is there anything 429 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: about them that really stuck out to you. Um, I 430 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: had no idea that PC Barnum did politics when I 431 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: watched the movie, like it was only about his circus 432 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: or year. Yeah, he was very dedicated to his home 433 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: state of Connecticut through his politics with some which is 434 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: something that I didn't know about. Yeah, when I think 435 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: of P. T. Barnum, I don't usually automatically think of 436 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: the Nutmeg State. But I guess you can take the 437 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: man out of the Nutmeg State, but you can't take 438 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: the nutmeg out of the man. That's Connecticut. Just think 439 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: of the nutmegic and Declan, what what stuck at to 440 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: you about either one of our historical figures? Well, what 441 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 1: really stuck out to me about And that's the thing 442 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: about pet Fobum was that actually he got tricked by 443 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: the one and sixty one year old lady Like I 444 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: actually thought she was that Oh yeah, me too, me too. Yeah. 445 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: And how did you feel when you found out that 446 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: she was not a hundred and sixty one years old? 447 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: I was like, you were shocked. For the listeners at home, 448 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: you couldn't see the look of shock on Declin's face. 449 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: It was real and it was intense and I felt 450 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: the same way when I found out. Well, that is great. 451 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: Thank you both. I'm excited that you were thinking so 452 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: much about these people and their lives and just the 453 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: things that surprise you about it. And now it is 454 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: time for the big moment. The trick is about to 455 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: be revealed. This is the prestige. If you will, Jane, 456 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: please announce our winner. Well, an incredibly close game, and 457 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: I hope we don't shock Declin when we tell him 458 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: that he won with eleven points. Nice, nice job, great job, Declin, 459 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: and a great job Josie. You played a great game. 460 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: This was a close one. So now Declan as our winner. 461 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: You have ten seconds for shoutouts. Who would you like 462 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: to thank? Go for it, my family and my friends, 463 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: lovely so Sainton to the point wonderful. I love it. 464 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: And I'm also gonna piggyback on that and just shout 465 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: out that when Josie saw that Declan, when she gave 466 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: him a round of applause, and we love that here 467 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: on the Who Was Podcast? We love a good sportsmanship, 468 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: So thank you, Josie. Josie did pretty good too, Thank you. 469 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: I agree you both did great and you should both 470 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: be really proud of how you did on the show. 471 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: Today our winner and their library of choice. We're receiving 472 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: a selection of Who Was books, and I'm going to 473 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: give a shout out myself to intern Zach Timpson for 474 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: being our Houdini, to Jane, Eric and b and a 475 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: big thank you to both of our contestants who played 476 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: a fantastic game. Thank you to you at home or 477 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: wherever you are for listening to our show. Join us 478 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: next week as we find out who Was. Two more 479 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: amazing figures from history. Until then, this is Elliott the 480 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: Fiji Mermaid Calin saying we are history. You see you later. Goodbye. 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