WEBVTT - The DeanLounge: Patagonia Going Gone

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, and welcome to the second episode of The

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<v Speaker 1>Dean Lounge. Gosh, I just don't like that name very much.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to bed last night thinking about what

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<v Speaker 1>I could name this segment. The Dean Lounge is just

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<v Speaker 1>not doing it for me. So I'm going to keep thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to keep coming up with ideas for this

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<v Speaker 1>for the name of this, but today I am going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about a trip that I went on. This

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be the first first time talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a specific trip that I've been on, and from here

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<v Speaker 1>on out, it's going to be a lot of this.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably will do this like two or three times

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<v Speaker 1>a month, and then one episode will be something more

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<v Speaker 1>specific about maybe like photography or I don't know, drone

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<v Speaker 1>or traveling cheaply or how to pack without taking a

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<v Speaker 1>checked bag. I don't really know, but we're gonna figure

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<v Speaker 1>out as we go. I do have some bad news.

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<v Speaker 1>Kaylin is at the DMB right now, so she will

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<v Speaker 1>not be taking part in this episode today, but fret not,

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to play her role for her. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be tricky. I am going to uh

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<v Speaker 1>just try to try to make lemonade out of lemons,

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<v Speaker 1>with this, but let's get started. I guess right. So

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<v Speaker 1>for this first trip I wanted to talk about, it

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<v Speaker 1>was the trip that I went on that changed my life.

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<v Speaker 1>And that might sound a little melodramatic, and it probably is,

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<v Speaker 1>but I went on this trip, and after going, after

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<v Speaker 1>getting back home from this or even while I was there, Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I just my life changed. It opened my eyes to

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<v Speaker 1>what I wanted to I don't want to say what

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do, because I don't necessarily think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing now, but it opened my eyes to

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<v Speaker 1>a world of just traveling and experiencing new things and

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<v Speaker 1>allowing myself to be alone and be comfortable with being alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Which if you listen to our main podcast, Suckers, there's

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<v Speaker 1>an episode ways Back. I have no idea which one

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<v Speaker 1>it was exactly, but I talk about how we so

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<v Speaker 1>many people these days, we just are not comfortable being alone.

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<v Speaker 1>We're always around friends or our significant others or family,

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<v Speaker 1>and even when we are actually physically alone, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>actually alone because we're on our phones, on Instagram, on TikTok,

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<v Speaker 1>on all of these social media platforms that allow you

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<v Speaker 1>to feel less alone. And this is the trip that

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<v Speaker 1>made me realize that being alone is a good thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in moderation, as most things are. If you

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<v Speaker 1>can be consumed by love and family and friends and

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<v Speaker 1>then also have the ability to go off and be

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<v Speaker 1>alone and be happy and enjoy your time with yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's an incredible asset to have, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people are kind of overlooking that in the

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<v Speaker 1>state of the world today. It's actually something too With Kaylin,

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<v Speaker 1>my wonderful wife, she hasn't really traveled much alone, and

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<v Speaker 1>after this trip and this experience, it's something I always

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<v Speaker 1>encourage her to try to do because, like I said, it,

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<v Speaker 1>it helps you better understand yourself and kind of shows

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<v Speaker 1>you your own capabilities. I when I'm alone, I I

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<v Speaker 1>start thinking different, not necessarily better, but just different. Where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my brain's allowed to just be itself and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not influenced by other people's motives or desires or

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<v Speaker 1>actions or anything like that. It's literally just me doing

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<v Speaker 1>what I want to do, thinking what I want to

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<v Speaker 1>think about. And you can't say talking what you want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about because I'm not really talking to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>but I guess I'm talking to random people that I meet,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just it's it's a wonderful thing, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's it's often overlooked and overshadowed because loneliness is

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<v Speaker 1>a prevalent issue in today's day and age. But being

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<v Speaker 1>alone doesn't equate to loneliness in my opinion. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening to this, you're thinking about traveling, but you

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily have someone to go with, but you want

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<v Speaker 1>to travel, I say one hundred percent, one hundred out

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<v Speaker 1>of one hundred times, go for it. I will say

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine out of one hundred times go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're traveling alone to a dangerous part of the

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<v Speaker 1>world and maybe you're not comfortable with that, then potentially reconsider.

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<v Speaker 1>But ninety nine out of one hundred times, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about traveling, can't find people to go with you,

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<v Speaker 1>just bite the bullet, go alone and see how you

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<v Speaker 1>handle it. Like you'll never know whether you can handle

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<v Speaker 1>something until you actually get out there and try it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my advice. Let's get to this episode. So

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<v Speaker 1>this trip I'm referring to is a trip that I

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<v Speaker 1>took back in November twenty eighteen, So that's what five

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<v Speaker 1>and a half years ago at this point geez Luise

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<v Speaker 1>h five and a little over or a quarter maybe

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. At this point, I went to South America.

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<v Speaker 1>And at this point in my life I had traveled

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. I wouldn't say much. I had been

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<v Speaker 1>to Mexico. I think I had been to like India,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe with my friends. I was going through my camera

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<v Speaker 1>feed or my camera role to see when exactly this

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<v Speaker 1>trip lined up in the in the synchronosity of whatever

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<v Speaker 1>I've done, and I think India came before this, which

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<v Speaker 1>was surprising because I thought that I had gone to

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<v Speaker 1>India with a little bit more experience, but I guess not.

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<v Speaker 1>But this was my first ever solo trip, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that for a fact at least. And I went to

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<v Speaker 1>South America. My goal was to get to Torres del

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<v Speaker 1>Pine in southern Argentina, Patagonia, more or less. And after

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<v Speaker 1>doing a little bit of research, I found this thing

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<v Speaker 1>called the W Trek, which is pretty popular. In hindsight,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot more popular than I had realized at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. The W Trek is like, it's a fifty

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<v Speaker 1>mile hike through the Patagonia wilderness in quite honestly the

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<v Speaker 1>most beautiful place I've ever been to in my entire life,

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<v Speaker 1>and like I said, it changed my life, not only

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<v Speaker 1>because I went there alone and I did all this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff myself. I was the only person responsible for myself.

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<v Speaker 1>But just the beauty down there is unmatched. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>staring at my office window right now at a beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>mountain here in Colorado, and the Colorado Mountains are incredible

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<v Speaker 1>and I love them so much, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>anything comes close to Patagonia. It is as good as

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<v Speaker 1>it gets down there. So what I did was I

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<v Speaker 1>flew from La to Buenos Aires. Spent a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days in Buenosaires. And I had heard from a few

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<v Speaker 1>people how great that city is. And while I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say it's not great, I just personally didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a great time there. I think I'm just not much

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<v Speaker 1>of like a city traveler. If I travel somewhere like

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<v Speaker 1>let's say, go to Paris or London or I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>some other like bigger city, I just don't really I

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<v Speaker 1>ever find myself having that good of a time, and

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<v Speaker 1>Buenos Aires was no different. I just I struggle with

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<v Speaker 1>finding things to do. I'm not really big into like

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<v Speaker 1>the night life scene. I'm not a big foodie, not

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<v Speaker 1>a big drinker, Like I don't I don't go and

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy a nice glass of wine. I just don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the taste for it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the difference between good wine, bad wine, good food, bad food.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all it's all on the same kind of spectrum

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<v Speaker 1>of middling to me. And when I went to Buenos Aires,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's like, you have to try them all back, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to try the steak, And it was all good,

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<v Speaker 1>it was very good. But for me personally, it was

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<v Speaker 1>more of a layover than it was a destination for

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<v Speaker 1>me because it just I just couldn't I struggled finding

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<v Speaker 1>things to do. And I might get some plaque for

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<v Speaker 1>that because it is a beautiful country, it is a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful city specifically, but I just personally didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>good time. So I'm not really gonna dwell on that

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<v Speaker 1>too much. So then when I did so, I went

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<v Speaker 1>LA to Buenos Aires. Buenos Aires to Santiago, And what

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<v Speaker 1>I've kind of noticed is Santiago is kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>the hub for traveling throughout South America. You can find

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<v Speaker 1>cheap flights from Santiago to pretty much anywhere in South

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<v Speaker 1>America for way less than what I would have assumed,

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<v Speaker 1>like a Rio or a Buenos Aires would have been

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<v Speaker 1>more of a hub, and they probably are still hubs.

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<v Speaker 1>But I found that flying out of Santiago was significantly

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<v Speaker 1>cheaper at the time, at least than it was flying

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<v Speaker 1>out of any of those other cities that I mentioned earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>So went to Santiago. I only spent one night there.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, after just kind of ragging on city

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<v Speaker 1>traveling a little bit, that Santiago is pretty awesome and

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<v Speaker 1>I only spent one Yeah, I spent maybe like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>hours there, so not a long time, but it just

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<v Speaker 1>gave me a better vibe. It's a little bit less

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<v Speaker 1>busy than Buenos Aires, is a little easier to navigate

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<v Speaker 1>as well. It's not quite like Buenos Aarres is huge,

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<v Speaker 1>and Santiago is at least a little bit more manageable,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's beautiful mountains over to the east. What I

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted to do from there was travel to Easter Island,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I don't know, five hundred miles off the

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<v Speaker 1>western coast of Chile. What I found with that is

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a Chilean local, you can fly to Easter

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<v Speaker 1>Island for like sixty bucks. But if you're a tourist

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<v Speaker 1>like I was, obviously from probably any other country, not

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<v Speaker 1>just America, it's like a thousand dollars just to fly

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<v Speaker 1>that little flight over to Easter Island, and that might

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<v Speaker 1>be one way. I can't remember if it was around trip,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was. It was way out of my budget.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was within my budget, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>too It just it didn't feel fiscally responsible for me

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Easter Island for four hours and then

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<v Speaker 1>fly back over to Santiago. So I didn't actually end

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<v Speaker 1>up doing that. So what I did was, once I

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<v Speaker 1>got to Santiago, I realized that there aren't many direct

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<v Speaker 1>flights that fly into Port Donatale, which is where like

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<v Speaker 1>the base camp for the w Trek specifically is like

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of where most tour groups would start. You.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't use a tour group, but there are like

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<v Speaker 1>buses that bus you up from Port Donatalast into Torrest

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<v Speaker 1>Dell Pine a park, so that seemed like a good

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<v Speaker 1>place to start. A lot of people will fly into

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<v Speaker 1>Punta Arenas, which is I want to say, like a

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<v Speaker 1>four hour drive and then bust over to Port Donatales

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<v Speaker 1>those four hours and then start their trek from there.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be longer than four hours, it could be

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<v Speaker 1>like eight. I just remember being it was long enough

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<v Speaker 1>to where I didn't want to do it, and the

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<v Speaker 1>flights into Port de Natals were they don't fly every day.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I remember it being like once a week

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<v Speaker 1>there was a maybe like twice a week there was

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<v Speaker 1>a flight down there, and then twice a week there

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<v Speaker 1>was a flight back up. So you kind of really

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<v Speaker 1>had to pick and choose exactly when and where you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to go. And I think I gave myself about

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<v Speaker 1>a week in Port Donatales. I knew that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do the W tre but I didn't have any

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<v Speaker 1>like campsites bucked or anything like that. And if you've

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<v Speaker 1>been there, or you've thought about going there and done

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<v Speaker 1>some research on it, you'll know that you can't hike

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<v Speaker 1>through the W without having your campsites buked. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>limit the number of people on the trail per day

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<v Speaker 1>like some national parks would, even this one actually on

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<v Speaker 1>the upper half of the trek, which I did not do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the O is what the whole thing would be considered.

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<v Speaker 1>They only let like eighty people per day on the

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<v Speaker 1>northern part of that trek, but in the W area

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have any limitations. You just have to have

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<v Speaker 1>your campsites bucked. And the booking platform for that is

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly challenging to navigate. There's two companies that have like

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<v Speaker 1>one has half of the campsites, the other one has

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<v Speaker 1>the other half of the campsites. I think it's like

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<v Speaker 1>Conaff and Vertise or something like that. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>navigate because it's like translate the website from Spanish to

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<v Speaker 1>English and there's some stuff that's lost in translation. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you do finally get to the booking page, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of this stuff is booked out, and so unless

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<v Speaker 1>you're planning like a year or two in advance, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hard to figure out exactly how to get

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff booked. So my plan was to get

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<v Speaker 1>to ports Natals they have two headquarters there, Conaff and Vertise,

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<v Speaker 1>and talk to them in person, hope there was some cancelations,

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<v Speaker 1>and just kind of take those bookings. And what's challenging

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<v Speaker 1>about it is most people do the W from west

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<v Speaker 1>to east, so you have to kind of book your

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<v Speaker 1>camp sites appropriately and make sure that, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you go chronologically from the first to the second to

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<v Speaker 1>the third to the fourth. If you if you can't

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<v Speaker 1>make all of those campsites or you have to miss

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<v Speaker 1>one of them, your your whole trip is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>shot because you're then either hiking twenty miles in a day,

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<v Speaker 1>which is totally doable, just not necessarily ideal, or like

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<v Speaker 1>you're just gonna go up there, camp at that campsite,

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<v Speaker 1>wander around that area, and then return back to Port Natale.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got there on a let's say I got

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<v Speaker 1>there on a Monday. First thing I did was go

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<v Speaker 1>into the shops and get the camp sites booked, and

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<v Speaker 1>luckily three days from then, So let's say on a Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a campsite that was able to be booked.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't Grays. Grays is kind of like maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>most popular campsite because there's a huge glacier over there

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<v Speaker 1>up in the mountains. That's where the passes that you

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<v Speaker 1>come in through the o from, so a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people like Gray's the most. Unfortunately I couldn't book Grays,

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<v Speaker 1>but what I was able to do was book what

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<v Speaker 1>was the first time I stayed at Piney Grande, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the one that's like directly after Gray's, and then

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<v Speaker 1>from Piney Grande, I was able to book Frances and

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<v Speaker 1>then Central from there, so it's three nights, four days.

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<v Speaker 1>What you do is then they also give you a

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<v Speaker 1>ferry ticket because you take the bus into the park

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have to take a ferry through I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember the name of the like Pey Hooey Lake

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, and then that brings you up

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<v Speaker 1>to like the bottom left side of the W and

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<v Speaker 1>then you hike up into Grays Stay the Knight Grays ideally,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you hike back down the same trail that

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<v Speaker 1>you just came and then you continue on the W

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<v Speaker 1>from there. So I wasn't able to get Grays, which

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<v Speaker 1>was a big bummer and something I regret, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually something I've wanted to go back to and try

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<v Speaker 1>to book the O. But like I said, I'm having

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<v Speaker 1>trouble booking those campsites. It's so much easier when you

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<v Speaker 1>get there, but you are rolling the dice because you

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<v Speaker 1>might not be able to get the campsites that you need.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just one of those things where it's like

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<v Speaker 1>if you can't get it, you're gonna have to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out what you're gonna be doing for the next week.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are interesting things to do there. There's like

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<v Speaker 1>a natural history museum with the Mylodons, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>a giant sloth that used to roam around in that

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<v Speaker 1>area back in the I don't know, prehistoric or Mesozoic

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<v Speaker 1>days or something like that. There's a lot of other

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<v Speaker 1>sites to be seen while you're down there. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it, you're gonna probably want to rent a car,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what I did, and highly recommend that for

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<v Speaker 1>a while you're trying to kill some time. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was able to get Plinty Groundey booked for Thursday, Fransace

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<v Speaker 1>booked for Friday, and then Central booked for Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had three nights cover fifty miles, which is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a lot, and at the time I hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>really done much backpacking, so this is not only my

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<v Speaker 1>first solo trip, but my first solo backpacking trip. And

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<v Speaker 1>the nice thing about it is there is some infrastructure there,

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<v Speaker 1>so like I didn't need to bring a sleeping bag

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<v Speaker 1>or a tent or anything like that because they have

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<v Speaker 1>campsites there and the reservations I was able to book

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<v Speaker 1>included a tent and a sleeping bag and a meal

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<v Speaker 1>for I think I got like dinner and breakfast, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe just dinners actually, because they they'll they'll cook for

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<v Speaker 1>you at most of these campsites too, but you also

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<v Speaker 1>have to book that in advance as well, so something

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<v Speaker 1>to consider. It did lighten your load, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you I didn't have to carry my sixty liter

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<v Speaker 1>with me and with my with all that stuff in it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just brought like nuts and dried fruit that you

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<v Speaker 1>can buy in town pretty easily and for pretty cheap

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So took the verry in to Piney Grande

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<v Speaker 1>and hiked up to Grays to at least see it,

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<v Speaker 1>so that, you know, added a bit of mileage to

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<v Speaker 1>my trick as well. So I hiked up to Gray's

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<v Speaker 1>literally looked at it for I don't know, five minutes tops,

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<v Speaker 1>and I kind of had to turn around quick because

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<v Speaker 1>the hike from there to the next campsite was oh wait, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I didn't stay up Pine grund day. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I stayed all the way at Francis, did I. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember exactly what I did, but I do remember

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<v Speaker 1>having to hike through another campsite to get to where

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to go, making my first day even longer,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not ideal. But that first day is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>The bus takes you in super early in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>probably like six or seven am is when it leaves,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's an hour they or so drive to

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<v Speaker 1>the park, and then the boat was about an hour,

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<v Speaker 1>so you have some time to take it all in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Patagonia clothing brand company. This is where they

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<v Speaker 1>get their logo from. I'm sure you know that obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're familiar with the area at all. So I

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<v Speaker 1>took the ferry over, did all that hiking, and then

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<v Speaker 1>from there, on the second day, I hiked up into

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<v Speaker 1>the britann Co Lookout, which is kind of like the

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<v Speaker 1>middle upper part of the w and it's amazing. You're

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<v Speaker 1>hiking through these valleys with mountains surrounding you the most,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said earlier, the most beautiful mountain scapes you'll

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<v Speaker 1>ever see in your entire life, mountains surrounding you. You're

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<v Speaker 1>you're passing a lot of people because it's a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>busy trail, but you're still fully alone, at least in

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<v Speaker 1>my case, and so you never felt unsafe. There is

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<v Speaker 1>like a pretty decent puma population out there, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like South America's version of the mountain lion that we

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<v Speaker 1>have here in North America, and so you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>are on edge about that. But what I've realized is like,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as there's a lot of other people around,

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<v Speaker 1>the chance of an encounter is pretty small, Like they're

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<v Speaker 1>only going to be seen when they want to be seen,

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<v Speaker 1>and unless you're doing something like so stupid, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>really going to get attacked by one. Not to say

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<v Speaker 1>that the chances are zero, because I think there have

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<v Speaker 1>been some puma attacks down there, but very very very unlikely.

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<v Speaker 1>So went up to the Britannical Lookout, which was I

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of on the fence of it because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to go up there to do the track

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<v Speaker 1>complete well, to complete it, I guess you would, but

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<v Speaker 1>the main event comes at the end when you see

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<v Speaker 1>the towers. But I did it anyways, one hundred percent worth.

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<v Speaker 1>It pretty easy day relative to some of the other ones,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was you know that it's not super long

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a little bit of vert to gain, but

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<v Speaker 1>not bad, not bad at all. Hike back down, and

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<v Speaker 1>then on the bottom right of the w you're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hiking alongside the lake that you I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the one that you take the ferry over in, but

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<v Speaker 1>either way, you're kind of like water side for most

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<v Speaker 1>of it, so water on your right, mountains on your left.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember there were like these huge, beautiful condors flying

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<v Speaker 1>over occasionally, not the entire time, obviously, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>just it was I can't I'm trying my best to

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<v Speaker 1>like explain how amazing it is, and anything I say

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<v Speaker 1>will not be good enough because it literally was so

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<v Speaker 1>stink and amazing. Then I think I met a I

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<v Speaker 1>think he was a guy, an Italian kid. He was

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<v Speaker 1>probably like twenty years old, just an absolute beast of

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<v Speaker 1>a hiker, like so strong, so fast, never got tired.

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<v Speaker 1>I met him at one of the campsites, and the

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<v Speaker 1>next day he was like, yeah, I'm gonna go all

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<v Speaker 1>the way to the towers tomorrow. But from where we

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<v Speaker 1>were it was like fifteen miles and I was like

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sore. I got these new hiking shoes that I

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely hated, and I was like, screw it, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come with you and see what happens. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I go with him. It's nice hiking with people that

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<v Speaker 1>are faster than you because it forces you to come

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<v Speaker 1>to be faster and take less breaks. And when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hiking alone, I'm like, I'll take any excuse i can

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<v Speaker 1>to like sit down for a little bit and just chill.

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<v Speaker 1>So we hiked super fast. The last little push from

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<v Speaker 1>what would it be kind of like central but not

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<v Speaker 1>quite because you kind of like veer up before it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the last push up to the towers of Torres

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<v Speaker 1>still Pine, the base day last tourists lookout, I think

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<v Speaker 1>is what it's called is pretty challenging. It's steep, it's

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<v Speaker 1>loose in areas, pretty rocky, and it's just it's challenging

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<v Speaker 1>to get up there, especially when you're already pretty tired.

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<v Speaker 1>But once you get over the crest and into the

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<v Speaker 1>little what would you call it, not like a valley,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're you're you're basically like in this alpine lake, surrounded,

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<v Speaker 1>well not surrounded, but in front of you are these

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<v Speaker 1>three massive granite I want to I want to call

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<v Speaker 1>them granite towers. And it's it's every picture that someone

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<v Speaker 1>would post from this area has those towers in it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the most breath taking place in the entire world.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was up there, it was kind of busy,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's maybe like eighty eighty five people up there,

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<v Speaker 1>all hikers. The only way to access it is by hiking.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people just take the bus in, hike up, hike down,

0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:52.199
<v Speaker 1>take the bus back down to Portinatals. But obviously if

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to get the full experience, you're like, you

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<v Speaker 1>got all your stuff with you. There were like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>families doing day trips up theres. I guess the point

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to make, but it's just mind blowing. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, nothing I say can encapsulate how incredible it

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<v Speaker 1>is up there. So the whole track took me four days.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe was it three days. I might have done it

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<v Speaker 1>in two nights. I can't remember. But anyone can do it, Like, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>there are certain limitations, but if you can walk, you

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<v Speaker 1>could do this hike. It just might take you a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit longer, but that's kind of the nice thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on your own schedule, especially without a tour guide.

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<v Speaker 1>You can wake up early, get to the next camp

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<v Speaker 1>site late. Since it was almost summer solstice there in

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<v Speaker 1>South America. In the southern Hemisphere, the days would last

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<v Speaker 1>until you know, you'd have sun until ten pm because

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<v Speaker 1>you're pretty far south down there, so you can, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you can take your time, you can go slow.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not an early riser typically, I would say, like

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<v Speaker 1>my earliest start is ten am on a good day,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, you have a lot of people starting

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<v Speaker 1>in like six am, so that way they can be

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<v Speaker 1>done hiking before probably like at between lunch and dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a pretty good way to do it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>always the best practice to get started early. That way,

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<v Speaker 1>if there's any complications or bad weather, you can just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of lean on the fact that you have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time to get to wherever you're going. So yeah, that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the WS It's unbelievably breathtaking. It. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>glad that I like randomly stumbled upon it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even remember how I found it. I I think I

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<v Speaker 1>knew someone that had been down there or something, so

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<v Speaker 1>it like piqued my interest a little bit, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I started doing some research on it and looking at maps.

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<v Speaker 1>You're kind of like, oh, yeah, this is cool, it

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<v Speaker 1>should be fun whatever, blah blah blah. But then getting

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<v Speaker 1>down there and seeing it in person. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's life changing. It changed my life for

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<v Speaker 1>the better. So I can't recommend that area of the

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<v Speaker 1>world enough. The food, it's funny. I was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Crap about not being a big foodie. The

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<v Speaker 1>food down there is amazing. It's it's affordable, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>high quality. As far as I could tell, you want

0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:01.200
<v Speaker 1>like your American comfort food, they'll have, you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>Hamburger shops. There's some pizza joints that are pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of other important information that I

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<v Speaker 1>can at least divulge. But the town reports in Natalless

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<v Speaker 1>is incredible. And the three nights I spent there, two

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<v Speaker 1>or three nights, whatever it was that I spent there,

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<v Speaker 1>it felt like I could have spent more time in

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<v Speaker 1>that town for how small it is. It's it's a tiny,

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<v Speaker 1>tiny town. You can drive from one end to the

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<v Speaker 1>other in less than ten minutes, maybe like five or

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<v Speaker 1>seven minutes, so it's not big. But there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to do, not only just like driving around seeing the sites,

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<v Speaker 1>but eating and just kind of roaming. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of cute little stray dogs that'll come

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<v Speaker 1>up to you and they're super friendly. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how safe they are to pet in terms of like

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<v Speaker 1>diseases and stuff, but they're they're awesome as well, so

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<v Speaker 1>keep that in mind. And then I made it back

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<v Speaker 1>to portinay Talas and time flew out of the airport

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<v Speaker 1>the next day back up to Santiago, and just something

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<v Speaker 1>about being out there, being alone, knowing that you can

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<v Speaker 1>travel to a place you've never been and do something

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<v Speaker 1>you've never done and succeed. I think that's really what

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<v Speaker 1>was the turning point for me, to know that I

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<v Speaker 1>can take care of myself, I guess in a way

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<v Speaker 1>whereas like you know, I don't need to bank on

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<v Speaker 1>someone else booking a reservation or planning an itinerary, like

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<v Speaker 1>doing that all on my own and realizing that I

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<v Speaker 1>like it more A and I won't die B is

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<v Speaker 1>a very freeing concept. But yeah, that's the w track.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember. Pricing wise, I have some stuff on

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<v Speaker 1>my blog about how much it costs me to get

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<v Speaker 1>down there, how much it costs for the campsites. The

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<v Speaker 1>campsites were probably more expensive than you think they would be,

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<v Speaker 1>and more than they should be honestly, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say it was like sixty bucks a night and

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<v Speaker 1>then like twenty bucks for a dinner, so not bad,

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<v Speaker 1>but definitely not super cheap when it comes to camping.

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<v Speaker 1>The flights were more affordable than I bet you think

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<v Speaker 1>because that Portana Talis flight, Like, since it's so infrequent,

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<v Speaker 1>you would think it'd be really expensive, but it actually

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<v Speaker 1>if you catch it at the right time, you can

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<v Speaker 1>get a pretty good deal. I want to say it

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<v Speaker 1>was like two hundred bucks from Santiago, so not bad

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<v Speaker 1>at all. And yeah, I stayed at a hostel in Portanatalies.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember the name of it. Oh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what I wanted to mention. Cheot too. Before you go

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<v Speaker 1>on the hike, before you make it up into Patagonia

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<v Speaker 1>or into Torrest del Pine and you're maybe you have

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<v Speaker 1>some extra time in Portana Talis, there's a place called

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<v Speaker 1>Erratic Rock in What they'll do is they'll kind of

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<v Speaker 1>brief you on everything what to expect when you go

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<v Speaker 1>up and do the w So they'll tell you like

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<v Speaker 1>weather conditions for the next week, or how to navigate

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<v Speaker 1>if you get lost, like certain things that you would

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<v Speaker 1>probably overlook otherwise unless your experience, which I was not.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll just they'll you in on a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>that might be missing. It's like an hour long free

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<v Speaker 1>lecture of sorts. Well, they'll just kind of brief you

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<v Speaker 1>and give you information, let you ask questions. And so

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<v Speaker 1>if you're there and you have, you know, a day

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<v Speaker 1>before you start your hike, go to Erratic Rock. Trust me,

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<v Speaker 1>it is one hundred percent worth your time. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a bit I'm not. I'm not super good

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<v Speaker 1>at just like making new friends randomly out in the wilderness,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a good way to get connected with other

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<v Speaker 1>people who are hiking around the same time as you.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, let's say you hit it off with someone,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys become friends, then you guys could hike together

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:34.399
<v Speaker 1>if that's what you wanted to do too. On the

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:36.480
<v Speaker 1>bus there, I made a couple of friends that we

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<v Speaker 1>hiked up to Grays but they stayed there, so I

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<v Speaker 1>hiked down separately. But Erratic Rock can't recommend it enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty it's got to still be there. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>way that's not there anymore. But definitely worth your time.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that's that's my w check experience. I whenever

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<v Speaker 1>anyone asks, Like, I'll have friends reach out to me

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<v Speaker 1>occasionally like, hey, I've got you know, two weeks off

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<v Speaker 1>from works in January, where should I go? And they'll

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<v Speaker 1>give me a list of places. Sometimes Patagonia is on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and if it ever is, I say, don't even consider

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 1>any other options. If you haven't been there, that's where

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:11.439
<v Speaker 1>you should go, Like that is the best place to go.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope that helps maybe encourage you to go

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:17.959
<v Speaker 1>down there and try it out and see if you

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 1>like it for yourself. At the very least, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>it encourages you to consider traveling alone. It'll probably be

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<v Speaker 1>a recurring theme at this point on this podcast, because

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<v Speaker 1>I have done a fair amount of solo trips and

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<v Speaker 1>they're usually the ones that I come back from the

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<v Speaker 1>most happy because just from my experience with them. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. That's the w trek La to Buenos Aires,

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<v Speaker 1>Buenos Aires is Santiago, Santiago to Portentatales, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of figured it as you go. I will

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<v Speaker 1>say too, it's nice to not have a schedule, like

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<v Speaker 1>a strict schedule where it's stressful in the sense where

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you you might not get the campsites or the reservations

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:57.439
<v Speaker 1>that you want, but to be able to fly by

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<v Speaker 1>the seat of your peans and change things as they develop.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I guess like be dynamic is it's

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<v Speaker 1>nice because there's no pressure, there's no stress if things

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 1>go wrong. If things go wrong, it's nice because you

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<v Speaker 1>can be like, well, this is still fun and like,

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<v Speaker 1>what did I expect anyways? Like of course things were

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna go wrong when I didn't have anything planned. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the mentality that I've taken with traveling

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<v Speaker 1>is just like get there and see what happens, and

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<v Speaker 1>most more often than not, at least it turns into

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<v Speaker 1>a positive experience that, like I said, that'll be a

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<v Speaker 1>recurring theme. You'll you'll hear me talk about that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot in some other trips as well, of like me

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<v Speaker 1>just going to a place with a zero idea of

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<v Speaker 1>what to do or who I'm going to see or

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 1>what at that place even is, and then it ends

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<v Speaker 1>up being some of my favorite trips. So that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it for this episode. Sorry for not editing in

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<v Speaker 1>Kalan's voice as much as I had hoped to, but

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I was just rambling my coffee is hit

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<v Speaker 1>me pretty hard, so be sure to do you next.

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<v Speaker 1>Next week, it's going to be a continuation of this

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<v Speaker 1>trip I wanted to keep. I wanted to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>W Treck separate because, like I said, it's magical. And

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<v Speaker 1>I actually returned a couple years later that I'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about as well. I didn't do the W but I

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<v Speaker 1>did some other things down there, so stay tuned for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for next week's episode, where maybe we suck

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit less