1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: me Tommy Di Dario. Today I have pop Music Royalty 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: on my show. Yes I Do You are in for 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: a treat. J C. Chase is widely known as being 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: a lead vocalist in the multi platinum selling group in Sync. 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: My fellow millennials, when I say that n SYNC was 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: a pivotal part in our adolescent years, I know you 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: get me. InSync has sold over fifty million records, and 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: Jac was responsible for writing and producing many of the 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: songs on the n Sync albums. Now. What's amazing about 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: in Sync is their music is beloved by all age 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: groups and all generations, and it even popped up in 13 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: Deadpool this summer with their song Bye Bye Bye exploding 14 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: once again in one of the top films of the year. 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 1: JAC is now jumping into the theatrical world and he's 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 1: teaming up with producer and composer Jimmy Harry on their 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: new musical theater concept album called Playing with Fire, and 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: it is literally fire. It is inspired by the timeless 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: novel Frankenstein. Everybody knows that story and Jac is a 20 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: feature vocalist on the album and the songs are so sexy, 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: so dramatic, and oh my god, they're so good. I 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: need to see this on stage immediately. So between celebrating 23 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: his iconic contributions to pop music and then diving into 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: this new exciting chapter, Jac and I we cover it all. 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: So let's see if today we can get Jac to 26 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: say something that he has never said before. Jace Shouse, 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: How you doing, mom? Man? 28 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: I'm good. How are you? 29 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: I am fantastic. I'm so excited to be chatting with 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: you today. I am such a big theater and musical 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: theater fan. I mean, I'm not gonna say I'm an expert, 32 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: but I have seen many shows, and I live in 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: New York and it's a huge part of my life. 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: So ah, I'm just so excited to dive into playing 35 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: with fire. But before we dive into that, we're going 36 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: to celebrate you a little bit in some amazing moments 37 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: in your life. If you're cool with that. 38 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure. I was about to say we're on 39 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: the same page in terms of being very excited about theater. 40 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: The only difference is I'm in LA and New York. 41 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: Everything else you said, I'm like, oh, so we're the 42 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 2: same great. 43 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. I think I was looking at 44 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: my November December calendar and it's like five shows on 45 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yes, yes, this is what I love. 46 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: I love the art of it all. So it's awesome. 47 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: I can't wait to dive into that. But I feel like, 48 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: here we are. It's beginning of November. The holiday season 49 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: has officially kicked off, and for me, it's not quite 50 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: the holidays without the Instant Christmas album. 51 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: Hey that's a good one, And I'm going to. 52 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: Go on record, and this is a pretty bold statement, 53 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: but I am going to go on record right now 54 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: JC and say that that album is one of the 55 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: greatest albums of all time, of all time. 56 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: I think it stacks up well as a good Christmas 57 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: record of all times. As a wild statement, a music 58 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: that's out there, but I will definitely appreciate the sentiment. 59 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: I think it's a I think it's a solid Christmas 60 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 2: record for sure. 61 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: So you busted out during the holidays. 62 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 2: I so I always go family, family first, So it's always, 63 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 2: you know, as soon as as soon as the holidays 64 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: kick in, I go into family mode. 65 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, Well, like I said, it's a great one. 66 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: It's it's it's something that brings joy, which we all 67 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: need in this world more than ever. So I think 68 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: that to have a collection of work like that out 69 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: there is just so cool and it always keeps a 70 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: life of its own. Now, you can't say that about 71 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: a lot of art. That's why I'm saying it's one 72 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: of the most iconic albums ever, because not all albums 73 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: live up to the years that come, you know what 74 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: I mean. 75 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, for sure. Look, it's it's a fun thing, 76 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: you know, and it's it's it's always kind of a 77 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: bit of a giggle and a nod to you know, 78 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: the moments when you're walking through the grocery store and 79 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: you're like, oh okay, or wherever you're walking and you 80 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: hear the tune. It's it's flattering, you know, because certainly 81 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: people make new Christmas music every year, so for people 82 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: to go back to ours is it again, it's a 83 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: huge compliment. 84 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: You probably can't ever escape Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, can you? 85 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: It just pops up. 86 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: I think it's fun though, I think it served. It's 87 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: like when we were writing it, it ended up being 88 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: exactly what we wanted. We just knew we wanted something 89 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: that was joyful, and we wanted something that had energy, 90 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: and we didn't want it to feel like you had 91 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: to I don't know, just almost feel overthink it. You 92 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 2: just have a bit of fun. It's a fun Christmas 93 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: song and that's what we were trying to make and 94 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: when we were writing it, and I think that is 95 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: translated in when we were making it, the purpose translated. 96 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: And do that video pops up on my YouTube the 97 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: other day with like the Big Sled and the cgi Snow, 98 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: it's pure camp, it's pure fun. 99 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 2: Well you know, it's also like, hey man, we don't 100 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: have a lot of money to make Christmas videos, so 101 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: this is gonna be what it is. And we owned 102 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: it right. It was just like again, silliness, fun. You 103 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: don't have to make the most elaborate thing to enjoy 104 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: yourself when you're watching it or or when you're listening. 105 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, for sure, for sure. Well I'm going to 106 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: go on record again and say it's safe to say 107 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: that the world will be ready for a follow up 108 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: Christmas album whenever you guys are ready, We're ready. 109 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 2: Okay, that's a wild idea. 110 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: Actually, ooh, your interest is peaked. 111 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: I've never thought of that. 112 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: Wait. Really, Yeah, that's okay. Come on, there's so many 113 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: songs to cover and as a writer you can write 114 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: so many new ones. 115 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: That's wild. Okay. 116 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: No, I may need producing credit on it. Nast to 117 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: the idea. 118 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 2: It's like I want to be the EP. 119 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: Well, we'll talk about that later. We'll talk about that later. Jason, 120 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: you had some amazing moments over the last couple of 121 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: years with the guys. I mean, twenty twenty three, you 122 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: reunited for the VMA's, you did the one night only 123 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: showing La for Justin. These moments are are bringing so 124 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: much happiness enjoy to people. Like I said earlier, it's 125 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: a theme I guess of this conversation given the day 126 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: we're on today, which everybody listening. We're recording this on 127 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: the election day, which just has the world upside down. 128 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: So for you, what was it like sharing those moments 129 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: again with the guys? 130 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: It was fun. Look, anytime we get together, it's always 131 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: there's always something special, you know, because we had such 132 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: a great run and we have such a great history 133 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: with one another. Because it really, look, it made our 134 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 2: lives wonderful. The opportunity to create things that you literally 135 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 2: dream about and and for us to be able to 136 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: come together and make those things for all those years, 137 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: it made everything else in our life moving forward possible. 138 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: And so whenever we're with each other, it's like, you 139 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: can't It's like, I love those guys, and I can't 140 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: thank them enough for you know, for our chemistry and 141 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 2: for the opportunities that we shared together and and and 142 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 2: because those opportunities still provide opportunities for us and so 143 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: and and and Yeah, when we're together making things, it's 144 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: also very exciting, especially after not doing it for a 145 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: long time. You're just curious, and that aspect is very fun. 146 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: You know. There's almost like you know, we know, you 147 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: know where we each rest in the in the world 148 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: of harmony and things like that, because we've done it 149 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: so much over time. But you know, given that everyone 150 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: has gone in different directions exploring, when you come back together, 151 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: you go, hey, what's changed, you know, because everything that 152 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: you learn along the way changes your perception and how 153 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: you listen to things and how you sing things, and 154 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: and so it's fun to get together with those guys 155 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: now and just kind of experiment a little bit and 156 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: play a little bit, and uh, and so it was 157 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: certainly fun on the two songs that we did. Look, 158 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: the troll sing is a blast. You know, we got 159 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: to to live out a cartoon, you know, dream and 160 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: and and Justin made that possible bringing us into his 161 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: Trolls world. But I also think it was a lot 162 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: of fun singing the song Paradise for his record. You know, 163 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: it was it was kind of like it was something 164 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: that he had written and you know, and he had 165 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: an idea for and all of a sudden, you know, 166 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: he heard it in a different way one day because 167 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: when we were originally talking about doing something after we 168 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: did the Trolls song, Justin and I were talking about 169 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: it and we were kind of going back and forth 170 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: between two songs. Actually he played me two records and 171 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: then and then all of a sudden, it was like 172 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: I was like, all right, well, you know, I was 173 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: listening to them, and it was just like, let's figure 174 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: it out, you know. And then all of a sudden, 175 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: it was like, you know, down down the road when 176 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 2: we started talking, he was no, no, no, it's this, this 177 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: is us. This is like, this is the love letter 178 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: that we you know, this is our appreciation and love 179 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: letter to the fans that have been kind enough all 180 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: the years. So that was the purpose of that and 181 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 2: it was totally fun to do. 182 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Are you a sentimental man? Like do you 183 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: get nostalgic and have these moments where you're like, oh 184 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: my god, I can't believe I get to this still 185 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: with my best buddies and here I am, and there's 186 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: an appetite for it, Like, do you feel that. 187 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: I I'll say, there are others in the band that 188 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: are probably more sentimental than me. But I'm appreciative, I 189 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: think because I always like, you know, I certainly love 190 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 2: you know what we've done, but I always get excited 191 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 2: about the future. You know, even when you say the 192 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: election and so on, I'm I'm positive about the future. 193 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: Whatever happens, you know, today, the goal will be that 194 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: every day that I step forward, I'm going to be 195 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: trying to be my best self and have the best 196 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: effect that I can on others around me. And so 197 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: I look at every day as an opportunity to do that. 198 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: And so I think, while I'm I can be slightly sentimental, 199 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: I'm always excited about the future. 200 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it's a good way to live, right. You 201 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: appreciate the present, but you live in the past. No, 202 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: you can't live in the past. You can't. You have 203 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: to celebrate. Like you said, you celebrate the unexpected things. 204 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: Celebrate the past, but you know, you live in the 205 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 2: next out and you try and create the best now 206 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: you can by looking forward and doing doing the right 207 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: things moving forwards. 208 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well it's evident you have the mentality because 209 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: you created something brilliant, which we're going to get to 210 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: in a minute. But I do want to celebrate the 211 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: past one more time because this summer, y'all were in 212 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: one of the hottest movies of the year, Deadpool, and 213 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: that song Bye Bye Bye had a life of its 214 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: own again. I remember driving in an uber in New 215 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: York and hearing that on the radio again, and I'm like, 216 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: wait a minute, I'm a millennial, Like this is on 217 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: the radio. Why this is so cool? 218 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: Like for you, we never like, we never saw it coming, man. 219 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: You know, we just thought it was really really cool 220 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: that somebody wanted to use or not somebody, but obviously 221 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: Ryan wanted to use the song in the film. And 222 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: when we first you know, got to look at us like, hey, 223 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 2: you know, the Deadpool film wants to put your song 224 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: in the movie. You're like, Oh, that's cool. I wonder 225 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: how they're going to use it, like what you know, 226 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: but look, they're create over there, and they they like 227 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 2: to have fun. And that worked out perfect because you know, 228 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: we're like that as well. We'd like to have fun. 229 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 2: And so when we first got wind of it, and 230 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: when we first signed off, it was only for X 231 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: amount of time. And then down the road in the project, 232 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: they reached out again. They were like, we need to 233 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: use more of the song. You guys good and we 234 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: were like, yeah, have fun, do your thing. And then 235 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: and then ultimately Ryan reached out and texted all of 236 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 2: us and he was just like, so it's taking on 237 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: a life of its own and we think you guys 238 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: are going to love it. And and that's when he 239 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: invited us to come to the premiere and things like 240 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: that to see it, because he was genuinely, really really 241 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: sweet and he expressed some wonderful enthusiasm about it. And 242 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 2: we love the way it turned out. I mean, like again, 243 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: funny wins. 244 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, and the guy who danced in that suit 245 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: was great. But I do have to say I'm a 246 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: little disappointed you didn't pop out of the suit after 247 00:11:59,040 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: that dance number. 248 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: Oh no, man, Look, he got stunted. I don't know 249 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do with like a sword, and I 250 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: don't know if I have the comornation at this at 251 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: this stage in life, I'm gonna leave that, like the 252 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: swords and the fighting choreo to the experts. And yeah, 253 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: I'm happy to share the dance and we'll keep it 254 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: at that. 255 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: And to put a button on this instinct portion of 256 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: this interview, you know, knowing the impact that all of 257 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: these amazing moments have had, and you know, from the 258 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: VMA's to the show in La it's a deadpool, its 259 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: a trolls and so on and so on, how do 260 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: you see the momentum continuing with the guys. 261 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: Look, the fun thing is we're always talking to one another, 262 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: you know, and so you never know what idea could pop. 263 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: Right now, everybody's focused on projects, you know. Justin's literally 264 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: on tour and you know, and I'm gearing up this 265 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: project right now, so my focus is playing with fire. 266 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: But we're always talking in the background, and it only 267 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: takes like one idea, so anything's possible, you know. And 268 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: that's the fun part about us. It's just we're one text, 269 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: one phone call, from something. 270 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: Anything is possible, including perhaps one day watching your show 271 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: on the Broadway stage, which I certainly certainly hope is 272 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: the case. Playing with Fire is your musical theater concept album. 273 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: I was listening to it in the gym and I 274 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, these songs are brilliant, they 275 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 1: are so good, and you can't listen to everything, every 276 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: musical theater album in the gym, but this, oh my god, 277 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: it maybe the ballad. 278 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: Maybe the ballads. You might you're allowed to skip the 279 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: bout in the gym, but then you know you have 280 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: If you want to listen to the baut later at 281 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: home while you're stipping a glass of wine or something, 282 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: you can do that. 283 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. The 284 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: ballads have so much heart and like soul that you 285 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: you do want to hear them, you don't want to 286 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: skip it. So let's start with share with everybody what 287 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: exactly is Playing with Fire. 288 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: So Playing with Fire is a remake of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. 289 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: It was inspired by my writing partner, My writing partner, 290 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: Jimmy Harry. His mother was a playwright and she wrote 291 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 2: a play call Playing with Fire, and she framed Mary 292 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: Shelley's story in a way that was unique to other 293 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: versions of Frankenstein that I had read or seen, and 294 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: that she made the focus really about a conversation between 295 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: the creature and the creator, Victor Frankenstein, and everything pops 296 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: from that conversation. Everything happens because of that conversation between 297 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: these two characters. And by framing things that way, I 298 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: was emotionally affected in a way that I wasn't, you know, 299 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: maybe reading the original, because I felt like the original 300 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: I was always like a third party, just reading an 301 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: adventure in a way. And the way that this is framed, 302 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: every time you hear the Creature or Frankenstein speak, you're 303 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: hearing it from their perspective, the character's perspective, so you're 304 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: living through an experience through their emotion and their feeling. 305 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: And that excited me. And so after reading that, you know, 306 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: Jimmy and I started talking. You know, Hey, let's just 307 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: start with one song and see what happens. If there's 308 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: magic there, we'll we'll continue to walk down that road. 309 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: And if there's not, hey, you know, we tried to 310 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: do something totally different because I don't know if anybody 311 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: would think about a musical for Frankenstein, and that also 312 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: excited me, is you know, I just thought it was 313 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: a different, fun, exciting thing to do. And we we 314 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: wrote music for it, not all the music, but some 315 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: of the music, and then we did a thing where 316 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: we went up to the Playwright Center and Anneapolis and 317 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: a guy named Jeremy Cohen opened the doors to the 318 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: Playwright Center so graciously for us and brought in some 319 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: actors and we got to hear some of Barbara's book, 320 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: Jimmy's mother, Barbara's book against the music, because we didn't 321 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: know if it was going to work, and what we 322 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: learned was there's something there right. The music is doing 323 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: something to the material. And that's when we got really excited. 324 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: And then we noticed some flaws in what we were doing, obviously, 325 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: but that's the exciting thing, you know. We go, oh, 326 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: this gives me an idea. This makes me believe that 327 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: we can do this. But this also gives me another idea. 328 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: And that's when Jimmy and I went back in and 329 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: started rewriting our version of the book because the music 330 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: had changed the material as well, and so now all 331 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: of a sudden, we're developing something where we can really 332 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: make our mark and feel like we have something valuable 333 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: to offer the story in the theater community by musicalizing 334 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: a classic tale like Frankenstein. 335 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: And there really is so much depth and soul to 336 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: the lyrics and the music and all of the singers 337 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: who are on this, including yourself of course, and you 338 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: feel everything that you guys are trying to convey in 339 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: the story. What about this made you so invested? Like 340 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: why did you connect with this work in the way 341 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: that you did? Well? 342 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: The initial thought was even just hearing that, you know Frankenstein, 343 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: you automatically, at least I automatically went Wow, we're living 344 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 2: in a day and age now where the story is 345 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 2: more relevant than ever we're up. You know, humanity and 346 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 2: technology are really you know, at this crossroads where it's like, hey, 347 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 2: the thought of AI and how we have to be 348 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: responsible for this thing that we've created, and we're having 349 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 2: these conversations now about that. That's really interesting to me. 350 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: And the more we started writing, as much as it's 351 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: a part of the story, it's not the heart of 352 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 2: the story. The heart of the story that we've developed 353 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 2: is humanity. It's like, it doesn't matter what happens, it 354 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: doesn't matter how much technology is developed, It doesn't matter 355 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: all of these What matters is that nothing can take 356 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: you know, the humanity from anyone and so we focused 357 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 2: on that aspect and what we ended up with was 358 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 2: not just you know, a humanity and technology story, but 359 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: a story about a father and a son working through 360 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 2: some very difficult, heart wrenching, serious issues. And that was 361 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: beautiful to me. It was like, oh, we've tapped into 362 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: something special. You know, you go into it thinking you know, 363 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: people in robots, and then you come out the other 364 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 2: side you go, oh, this is all This is a 365 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: story about humanity, and it's all about humanity, and it's 366 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 2: being in the The center stage is you know, a 367 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: father and a son and someone's great love and so 368 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 2: having a perspective that felt like it was fresh. I 369 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: got really excited about that as well. 370 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: So innovative, it's so creative, which I think is probably 371 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: as an artist, one of the most exciting things for you. 372 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: The songs. I feel like the songs could be on 373 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: the radio some of them. They're so good. What was 374 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: the one I loved? Oh you used to touch me. 375 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 376 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: I was like, damn, Jayson, this is fiery. Oh my God. 377 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: The surprising thing about that record is, look, we wrote 378 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: it as an up tempo and because we wanted to 379 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 2: have energy and really to drive it. It's a taunt, you know. 380 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 2: It's the creature kind of poking at his creator, like, Hey, 381 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 2: you're calling me hideous, you're calling me a monster, you're 382 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 2: calling me all of these things. Guess what. And it's 383 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: almost like an you're talking to an ex. It's like, yeah, 384 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 2: you know what, you used to put your hands all 385 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: over me. Think about that for a second. I'm so ugly. Huh, 386 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 2: you used to love me, you know, think about that 387 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 2: when you say all these horrible things. And and so it's 388 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: it's a great way for the creature to kind of 389 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 2: kind of put it in the scientist Frank Stien's face. 390 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 2: The thing that really surprised us was, you know, we 391 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: wrote it as an up tempo, and we sang it 392 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 2: as an up tempo. But one day we were just 393 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: kind of messing around and we decided to just kind 394 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 2: of play it in the air, like you know, on 395 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: the piano over here and on the guitar o we're here, 396 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: And we realized how interesting the song was. Stripped bear 397 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,239 Speaker 2: as well. So that's when you know that, you know 398 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 2: there's a little bit more there. You know, you go, okay, 399 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: this could literally be you know, a big, you know, 400 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: bounce around, you know, energetic piece, but it can also 401 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: like cut you. When you play it broken down, it hurts. 402 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: And so that's when we knew that that song was 403 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 2: was special. 404 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 1: So yeah, well there's a lot of special songs on 405 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: this man. And I think it's it's so cool that 406 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: you're evolving your artist thry to tap into musical theater, 407 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: which is a completely different art form. But I guess, 408 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, a writer as a writer, 409 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: And maybe I'm wrong here, but did you feel like 410 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: it was a pretty easy transition for you writing songs 411 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: for so many years and in sync and as a 412 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: solo artist and then writing songs for this or was 413 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: it a very different thing for you? 414 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: It was very different, But I was also excited by that. 415 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: The thing is again, as people and as artists, we 416 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 2: want to continue to evolve, we want to continue to grow, 417 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: And I liked the idea of taking on a project 418 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: that was a bigger picture project. And I also felt 419 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: like because of my background in all of the years 420 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 2: of learning and being on stage and being in studios 421 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 2: and writing and reading and seeing films and stories and 422 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 2: seeing how people connect to their audiences emotionally. I felt 423 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: like all of those years of information prepared me for 424 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 2: this moment in a way and made maybe ready when 425 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: Jimmy and I started talking and saying why don't we 426 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: write a musical? And it was like, you know, when 427 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: it came out of my mouth, it was like am 428 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: I crazy? Or am I ready? And it was once 429 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: we started the process, I just fell in love with it. 430 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 2: And so I think, if anything, all of those years 431 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: doing all of those other things prepared me for this 432 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 2: moment and has given me a unique voice to share 433 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: because I don't want to write the same musical that 434 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: another musical writer is going to make. I think that's 435 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 2: the exciting thing. If you go see a sign Hom piece, 436 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 2: you know you're going to get that. When you see 437 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: a Weber piece, you're going to get that. And so 438 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: I think it's exciting to have a different kind of 439 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: voice enter the space and we'll see how how audiences 440 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 2: react to it. 441 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: So well, it's very evident you're you're so passionate about this, 442 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: shining so brightly, and I can feel it through the screen, 443 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: which is always such a rewarding thing when you're talking 444 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: to an art is there's genuine love and passion for 445 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: what you're doing. And I know a few of your 446 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: peers have tapped into this, right like Duncan Chic with 447 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: Spring Awakening, and I think some of their shows and 448 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: projects Max Martin with a Juliet. Have you gotten any 449 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: advice from peers in the business about maybe bringing this 450 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: to the stage and what that entails. 451 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: You know who. I had a great conversation actually recently, 452 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: just days ago with Nicole Sharesinger, right, So she's doing 453 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: Sunset Boulevard. 454 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: I saw it three times. 455 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, So she she called me up and you know, 456 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: and brought me backstage and stuff like that because I 457 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: told her I was going to be in town and 458 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: I was like, I'd love to see it, man. I 459 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 2: love supporting you. You know. She's always great whenever I'm 460 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 2: working on something, she wants to hear it, and she 461 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: wants she always is a great person to bounce ideas off, 462 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: because again, an experienced, intelligent, talented, you know entertainer. It's like, hey, 463 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: when somebody's willing to share their point of view with you, 464 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: you take it, and so she's been incredibly kind about 465 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: that stuff over the years. So I went and saw 466 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: the shit and I just told her. I told her 467 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: obviously that she's absolutely amazing in the show, because she is. 468 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 2: But then we just started talking about different things and 469 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 2: what her run up to it was like, you know, 470 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: and how it was something that she had always wanted 471 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 2: to do. She's like, I always knew that I wanted 472 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: to do something in theater. I just always knew. I 473 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 2: just never knew, like, you know, what's the project, what's 474 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: the time in my life? What is it? You know? 475 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: And this project came along for her and it's literally 476 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 2: it's one of the most incredible things I've ever seen 477 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 2: on stage, you know. But talking to her, she was like, 478 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: this is what I went through in the early parts 479 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 2: of it, and this is what I was inspired by. 480 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,959 Speaker 2: And she goes, you know, think about this, think about that, 481 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: think about this, and and so it was really fun 482 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 2: talking to her, and I think, you know what, what 483 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 2: she shared with me has excited me even more to 484 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 2: move forward, you know, because again I'm excited about the 485 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: subject matter. But I think seeing her on stage and going, 486 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: you know know what, we've kind of walked in identical shoes. 487 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 2: She came from a band. I came from a band, 488 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: you know, and she makes music all the time. And 489 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 2: now she's up there and she's found a way to 490 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 2: use all the things that she's learned over the years 491 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: to connect with the with those audience, you know, with 492 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: her talents, and to connect with the audience with her performance. 493 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 2: And I'm and I'm hoping that same kind of knowledge 494 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 2: base gives me an opportunity to create those connections. 495 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: So yeah, I love the parallels between the two of you, 496 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: and how cool to have that support system. And what's 497 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: so interesting to me is, you know, pussy Katzel's in sync. 498 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: You guys created music very different from musical theater. Right 499 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: when I was listening to you, I thought, oh my god, 500 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: has he been in intense vocal training for the last 501 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: decade because he sounded amazing then, But now it's like, 502 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: you're stretching your voice so much in a way that 503 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: I think only musical theater can allow you to. Same 504 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: thing with Nicole. When you hear her on that Sunset 505 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: Boulevard album Are Live, You're like, oh my god, how 506 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: you know? And your sounds in these projects are very 507 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: different than the sounds in the band. It's still great, 508 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: but very different. 509 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 2: Well, you know, because they're also you're also thinking about 510 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: the room. You're thinking of Look when you're I guess 511 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: it's just a different approach. But when you say, you're 512 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: singing different notes in a different way, and that's purposeful, 513 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 2: you know. It's like when I approach some of these 514 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 2: these bits, when I'm singing them, you know, they have 515 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: to be kind of laid bare, let loose, you know, 516 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 2: because you're playing a creature, you know, so if you're 517 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: getting into character and that character has been through hell 518 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 2: and back, you have to kind of strip away a 519 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: bit of that armor and let yourself go with a 520 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 2: bit of reckless abandon And that's how we approach some 521 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: of the singing parts, and in some of the writing 522 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: as well. It's like, these aren't things that I would 523 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: say maybe in a pop record, right, but this character 524 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 2: has put me in this position, and I have to 525 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: honor that and I have to push myself. And so 526 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 2: you're hearing a bit of that, and so that's again 527 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: part of the process. And I think that's one of 528 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 2: the great things about theater is it gives everybody an 529 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 2: opportunity to push themselves because you want these characters to 530 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: come to life. You want these characters to be the 531 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: fullest realization that you can make them, and so in 532 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 2: order to do that, you have to push. 533 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: So through creating, playing with fire, and through seeing people 534 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: like Nicole doing her thing in Sunset Boulevard. Do you 535 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: have the stage bug? Like, do you want to be 536 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: on the stage? We see you on the stage. 537 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: When I started this project, I didn't think about it. 538 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 2: I just was like, I was so just focused on 539 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: making it. I just was like in my mind, I'm like, 540 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 2: I have to make this thing. I literally I turned 541 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 2: into Victor Frankenstein in terms of being obsessed. Jimmy and 542 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 2: I we would just go in the studio and we 543 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: were so determined to make this, and we're determined right now. 544 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: You know, this is only step one in a long 545 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: process and we know that, but you know, we just 546 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: looked at it as an opportunity to share the journey 547 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 2: with the audience instead of just kind of throwing everything 548 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 2: at them at once. Go Hey, this is where we're going. 549 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: Do you want to be a part of this? Come 550 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 2: to the next thing that we do. And I think 551 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: it's great to build your audience, and that's what we're 552 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 2: doing through this process. In terms of being on stage, 553 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 2: though again I've started to think about it now. I 554 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 2: actually didn't think about it in the beginning. I just 555 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 2: wanted to, you know, make this thing, but I would 556 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 2: be open to it. The only problem you have to 557 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: deal with with me is is that I'm going to 558 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: want to make something else. So because while you know, 559 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: the time you spend on stage is the time that 560 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 2: you're not in the studio. And actually, to be perfectly 561 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: honest with you, I have Jimmy and I are already 562 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: talking about more ideas, which is kind of insane, but 563 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: you know that's just the kind of creators we are, 564 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: you know. 565 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, I feel like if you were to 566 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: be on stage, you have to now keep kind of 567 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: in theme to the project you're working on. So it 568 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: would have to be like a jeckal and Hyde reboot 569 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: on stage or like a Phantom bring Phantom back. You know, 570 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: I could see you in that vibe. 571 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: Well, I think anything that I would be on stage 572 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: with for like a run of something would probably be 573 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: something that I would want to have been a part 574 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 2: of creating. That being said, we do have one that 575 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: we've already written aside from this, and that would be 576 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: a fun one and it's nothing like this, because why not. 577 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 2: But but I think the connective tissue in terms of 578 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 2: me being in something or be being a creator and something, 579 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 2: I think it more boils down to because I don't 580 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: see Phantom as a Jesus Christ superstar, you know. I 581 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: think they're two very different shows created by Weber, and 582 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: so I think that you're allowed. I think you're allowed 583 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: to have range when you're being creative in the theater 584 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: space as well. Now, well, some of the melodies you 585 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: know live in the same family, probably just because it's 586 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 2: you're talking about the same writer. But I don't necessarily 587 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: think that you have to be to be kind of 588 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 2: boxed into a genre. You have to I have to 589 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: go where my heart takes me and where I'm inspired, 590 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: because I think the best product that I make is 591 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: from truth, and so so when I when I'm out 592 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: there and I'm truly believing in what I'm doing, That's 593 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: when I'm at my best. And I think people can 594 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 2: kind of sniff that out. 595 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: Well, that's why you've had such longevity, right, and that's 596 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: why you're continuing to do amazing things, and it's scary 597 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: to take on something like this. It's a big leap 598 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: of faith. You're putting your blood, sweat, and tears in it. 599 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: It's a different thing for you and your fan base, 600 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: but you have such a burning passion for it that 601 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: you said, I got to do it and I got 602 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: to see this. It's that you like what I did. 603 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: There burning passion, but it's it's seriously, it's an amazing 604 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: thing that you're creating, and I imagine that you must 605 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: be very proud. And when you look back at your 606 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: whole career and everything you've accomplished, what do you feel 607 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: the most proud about. 608 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: I think I'm proud of the relationships that I've created. 609 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 2: I don't think it's like any one project that I'm 610 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: super proud of. I think I'm more proud of the 611 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: people that I've met along the way and been able 612 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 2: to work with and the impression that we've left on 613 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: one another. Very rarely, you know, knock on wood, but 614 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: very rarely do I have a bad experience, because I 615 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: am a bit picky fair. But the thing that I'm 616 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: proud of is the friends that I've made along the way. 617 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 2: When I think back to the to the mouse Club, 618 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: and I think, Wow, I've made some lifelong friendships there. 619 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: And even if I don't talk to those people for 620 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: years at a time, ten years at a time, I'm 621 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 2: appreciative of them and I can tell them that I 622 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: love them because again, they're part of me. And everything 623 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: about that situation, it came in on a high note 624 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: and it left on a high note, and it was 625 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: a beautiful situation. And the same thing with the guys. 626 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 2: It's like, when we came together, we had a genuine 627 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 2: enthusiasm about what we were doing, and when we came 628 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: in together, we were pushing for everything the right way. 629 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: And when we decided we had made the run that 630 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 2: we had aimed to make, we went out on a 631 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 2: high as well. We were thankful for everything and we 632 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: felt like, you know, we were doing the right thing 633 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: and and so and that's that's I think what I'm 634 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 2: most proud of is I'm thankful that all the experiences 635 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: that I've had have been experiences that I'll look back 636 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 2: on and say, I've made a friend along the way, 637 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: and I feel like I did it the right way. 638 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: Jason. The name of the show is called I've never 639 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: said this before and as we wrap up, I finish 640 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: every interview by asking my guests, what is something that 641 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: you've never said before? And that question can mean anything 642 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: you wanted to mean. So take the floor, my friend, 643 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: what would you like to say today? 644 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 2: I've never said I'll be a monster before? Whether maybe, 645 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: just maybe. I think that's probably the best thing I 646 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: can come up with it right now because it's such Again, 647 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: that's a deep well of a question. That's a great 648 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: that's a great question to pose to people. 649 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: Thank you. You know it came from I cover a 650 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: lot of you know, movie premieres and press junkets where 651 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: you got three minutes or five minutes with someone and 652 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, like, man, you can't have a real conversation here, 653 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: and I always see people wanting to share a different 654 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: side to them. So that's where it was born. But 655 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: you know what that that answer is very on brand 656 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: for this conversation, So I like it. I like it 657 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: a lot. JC Before we go, I'm going to share 658 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: one thing that my friend shared with me. My friend Lisa, 659 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: when I was telling her about this interview today, was 660 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: so excited. She's a huge fan of your work, always 661 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: has been, loves this new concept album supports. 662 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 2: All you know, it's a weird but yes. 663 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she but she thinks it's genius. And I 664 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: think that's what's cool is a lot of your eurog 665 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: fans are now coming with you onto this journey and 666 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: it's a pretty magical thing, you know. And she said 667 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: to me, an in sync reunion of any kind would 668 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: heal the millennial generation. When you hear that, well, what 669 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: do you feel? Because that is an amazing statement. 670 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 2: It's incredibly humbling, that's for sure. You know, when you 671 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 2: are yourself, I don't know you. You just think you're 672 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 2: going through life being you, and and sometimes you know, 673 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 2: really it's the kindness of strangers that is going to 674 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 2: put things into perspective. When someone that you never met before, 675 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 2: that you don't know, shares an act of kindness, it's 676 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: humbling and then I look, I appreciate it to the moon. 677 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 2: So but it's also hilarious that that would be the 678 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: context you could heal the millennials. 679 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: You of the power, You of the power, My man, 680 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: jac Thank you. This was such a blast. I loved 681 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: you know, hearing you celebrate, hearing us celebrate some of 682 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 1: your past work, but really diving into this new project. 683 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, I am such a fan of 684 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: theater and musical theater and that creative space. And I 685 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: hope you keep going with this. I hope you have 686 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: massive success with this. I hope that I see you 687 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: down the block in New York City doing the show 688 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: on stage. And I believe in it, So keep going. 689 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: I think it's a really special thing you have. 690 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 2: Thank you man. Again, I think I think it's it's 691 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 2: inspired me in a way that I haven't been inspired 692 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 2: in a long time. And so I'm thankful just to 693 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 2: be feeling this way about working on a project. And 694 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 2: I hope that the voice that Jimmy and I are 695 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: bringing to the theater world is something that people find 696 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 2: interesting on some levels. 697 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: And how can we continue to support. 698 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: PWF Musical dot com. You know, you connect you with 699 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 2: all the music, all the socials and everything like that, 700 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: and hopefully you can you know, if you go check 701 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 2: that stuff out, you can follow the journey of this 702 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 2: whole thing, because again, we just released a record. This 703 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 2: is the beginning, right so you know, next thing, you know, 704 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 2: we're going to be in a building, so we're singing 705 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 2: these songs live on a stage and addressing the book. 706 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: We're thinking about a concert first and then going from 707 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 2: concerts into workshops and then all these other things. But again, 708 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 2: this is the beginning of the process and where it 709 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 2: goes will be up to anybody who is reaching out, 710 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 2: who is curious about it. It'll the project will literally 711 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 2: be in everyone else's hands. 712 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: Well, rock on, keep it going, and in the meantime, 713 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: keep healing a generation. 714 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 2: That's the goal. 715 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: Jay Z, Thank you so much, my man, thank you. 716 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: I've never said this before. It is hosted by me 717 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: Tommy Diderio. This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Piglisi 718 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: at iHeartRadio and by Me Tommy, with editing by Josh 719 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: Shua Colaudney. I've Never Said This Before is part of 720 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: the Elvis Duran podcast network on iHeart Podcasts. 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