1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: What is up? Good people of Houston, Welcome into a 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of Texans All Access. I am your host, 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: John Harris, Football Ana's sideline reporter and so glad to 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: be with you on Battle Red Thursday night. Eve. So 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: we got a lot to do on the show this 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: evening and to get it all in, and I mean, 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: we've got tons. We've got Dave Zangaro, who used to 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: be with CS in Houston, who now covers the Eagles 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: up there in Philly. He's gonna join Deep City. We're 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: gonna have a little deep slant with Troy Harriston. We 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: are gonna have Mark stopping by from My Keys to 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: the Game. We've got Drew's final Word, which is gonna 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: be a Traymont Smith, and we got a Drews dozen 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: with Traymont Smith. We have so much going on. Oh 15 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: did I forget made Behind the Mike's Merrill Reese with 16 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: Mark Vannimer. That is gonna be an absolute blast. I 17 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: love hearing Merrill's voice and to hear him discussing with Mark. 18 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: That's gonna be really really fun. Now we're gonna start 19 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: the show with the dilemma because every single last All 20 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: Access show before a game. We start with Lovey Smith, 21 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: but every single Wednesday we start our show, which m 22 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: Nick Caserio. So this gets dicey. So I flipped the 23 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: coin and it came up Beard instead of Vest to start. 24 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: So we're gonna hear from Lovey Smith right off the 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: bat who talked with Mark Vandermer coach. Here you are 26 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: playing to Philadelphia Eagles. Let's talk about their rushing attack. 27 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: They have Miles Sanders, Jellen Hurts runs the ball, but 28 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: it's not like he's Lamar Jackson. How do you expect 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: to defend against him? What do you expect out of 30 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: that attack? Well, you mentioned Miles Sanders. I mean that's 31 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: enough in itself. I think he would be a good 32 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: running back in any system. But with all the weapons 33 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: that they have, I mean you look at their receivers, 34 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 1: I mean tight end, they have an elite skill guide 35 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: every one of those. It's just opened things up. So 36 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: you have to honor, you have to honor the past, 37 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: and that just opens up some holes inside. And then 38 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: when just in general, the rushing attack that they had 39 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: more of the College principles of zone. You know where 40 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: you don't know most places you turn your hand it 41 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: to the tailback. You know who has the ball, but 42 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: the mess point quarterback, which guy has the ball? Quarterback, 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: running back has it. It can open up some vertical 44 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: holes pretty quickly. And if you have a running back 45 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: like that that can hit them and go to distance, 46 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: it's tough. How does the short week affect the look 47 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: team and what looks you're able to get at that 48 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: kind of attack. I just don't think you know this 49 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: week you a lot of the work has to be 50 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: done before now, all the way back to training camp, 51 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: but just an option. The only part is different is 52 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: some of the more more of the option principles and 53 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: you're constantly practicing that throughout. That leads you to this 54 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: short week. How about facing their defense? How tough are they? 55 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: What do you anticipate from them up front in particular? Well, 56 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: I was going to say it starts up front. It 57 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: just added another great player to the mix. But inside 58 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: tough you know, athletic guys throughout. If you want to 59 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: say that one of the best rnerbacks in football. A 60 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: commitment to stop and run that and just the way 61 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: they play, you know, offensively, they don't turn the ball 62 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: over the least amount of tech turnovers in the league 63 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: and the most takeaways on the other side of the football. 64 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: All that makes it tough. Coach. We touched on this 65 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: during your show. But playing in primetime, I know we 66 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: make a big deal out of the short week, But 67 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: do we make too big a deal out of it? 68 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: Not the team but the outsiders in that you're on 69 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: national television, the nation's looking on. You're playing a football 70 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: game against a really tough team. Now, I don't think 71 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: we make too much of it. I think the guys 72 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: look at it like that. It's been that way since 73 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: the beginning of time. As I see it, there's normally, 74 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: you know, as the time when there's only one primetime 75 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: game at Thursday, there's only one primetime football game and 76 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: guys want to perform. Yeah, a lot of times, you know, 77 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: people may only get a chance to see us right now, 78 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: you know like this, you know this Thursday night. So 79 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: you have to take advantage of that and play your 80 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: best ball. And that's what I believe we'll do. Coach. 81 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot of good luck, appreciate it. Excellent stuff 82 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: there from Lovey and from Mark. Now time catch up 83 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: with general manager at Nick Cassio. Now, because it's a 84 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: condensed week, and obviously there was a lot going on 85 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: this week in a short amount of time to get 86 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: ready for Thursday night. We interviewed Nick well early in 87 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: the week, as in Monday of this week. Now, a 88 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: lot of this obviously still applies, but you'll hear him 89 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: refer to getting the players in today. He's talking about 90 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: getting him back in Monday and kind of giving you 91 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: the schedule for what they did this week. So here 92 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: we go, mark me Nick now joining us Now, I'm 93 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: Texans Radio Texans general manager Nick Cassio. Nick, good to see. 94 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: I know it's a short week, a lot of work 95 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: to do. We appreciate the visit thoughts on coming off 96 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: of what happened Sunday and having to erase the memory 97 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: but learn from it in anticipation of Philadelphia Thursday. Yeah, 98 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: it's really like every week. So whatever happens in the 99 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: game on Sunday, you kind of go back figure out 100 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: what happened. There's some good things, there's some bad things, 101 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: try to get some things corrected, and then really got 102 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: to move on to the next opponent and the team 103 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: whoever you're going to face that particular Sunday. In this case, 104 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: it's Thursday, So we'll have the players in here today, 105 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: we'll kind of wrap up the game yesterday. Some things 106 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: will have application, other things that we're gonna have to 107 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: do will be specific to what the Eagles do, so 108 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: kind of have to make that transition and just kind 109 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: of turn a page and move forward. Does it make 110 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: it more difficult that the trade deadline is a week 111 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: in which you have a short week. Yeah, that's a 112 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: good question. Let's say, not necessarily. So I think if 113 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna do anything, you're going to do it regardless. 114 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: So I'd say the reality is, if you do acquire 115 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: a player, let's say you bring a player in the 116 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: chance of getting ready to play this particular week would 117 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: probably be minimal, so it would just entail having to 118 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: make a roster move. So otherwise, so it doesn't necessarily 119 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: preclude you from doing anything. So if you do end 120 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: up making some kind of transaction, you just really kind 121 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: of planning for probably future weeks with what happened Sunday. 122 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,559 Speaker 1: Does it make it difficult to evaluate individuals when team 123 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: performance wasn't what you were looking for. Yeah, I mean 124 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: I think collectively as a team we weren't good enough. 125 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 1: So offensively, defensively, in the kicking game game, So probably 126 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: all three phases. There's certainly things that you know everybody 127 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: can do better, all of us can do better. So 128 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: I think it's it's got to be real about what 129 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: happened and just kind of look at yourself in the 130 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: mirror and just try to figure out what can we 131 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: do better, try to find some solution. You're not going 132 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: to fix everything all at once. To the run game 133 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: is it's different the run game. The Eagles run games 134 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: different than the Tennessee run game, so the running game 135 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: will be a big part of it. They're a good 136 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: running team. Tackling has been a little bit of an issue, 137 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: so trying to work on tackling and offensively just trying 138 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: to find limited negative plays and trying to create more 139 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: positive plays to get ourselves in more scoring situations. So 140 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: those are things you do every week. So you really 141 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: want to just make it specific to what do we 142 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: have to do against the Eagles this week, relative to 143 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: what they do schematically, and just try to give ourselves 144 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: the best chance to have some success. Nick, are you 145 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: a mindset that after you have a rough afternoon, no 146 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: matter what the sport is, to get back on the field. 147 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: The bump the pitch, whatever it is, as soon as possible. 148 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: That might set like you'd rather do that as opposed 149 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: to wait ten days to have to play on a 150 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: Sunday or a Thursday later on. Yeah, the reality is 151 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: you have to have a short term memory regardless because 152 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: what happens in that previous game quite frankly, doesn't have 153 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: any bearing on what's going to happen on Sunday, because 154 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: you're dealing with a new set of circumstances, a new 155 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: set of players, new personnel, new scheme. So really it's 156 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: just understanding and educating yourself on the opponent and just 157 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: going through your weekly process. That's the most important thing. 158 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: So win, loser, draw, you have to do the same 159 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: thing every week. So regardless of what happens in the game, 160 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: you have to turn the page. You have to have 161 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: a short term memory. You just have to move on 162 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: to that next thing. Nick, We've had Thursday games for 163 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: a long time now. How has the process of recovery 164 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: getting the body back evolved over time? Because I got 165 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: to imagine there have been a lot of different changes 166 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: and things experimented with. Sure, the biggest difference is this 167 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: Sunday after the game you can do some things as 168 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: a player to kind of expedite that process. So really 169 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: what you do is you just start your process a 170 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: little bit sooner, so instead of doing it Monday or Tuesday, 171 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: there's some things that you can do right after the 172 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: game kind of starts to prepare your body for the recovery. 173 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: The reality is it's an enormous stress on the players 174 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: and their bodies. It's very taxing. What went on in 175 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: the game's very taxing, so the ability to recover. So 176 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: hopefully you've done enough leading up to that point and 177 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: you're training all the way through, and there'll be some things, 178 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: some things specifically that you can do immediately after to 179 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: expedite your recovery so that when you go out there's Thursday, 180 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: you can feel as fresh as you possibly can. Nick 181 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: made a team that you face often that we face 182 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: off in the Philadelphia Eagles. But we all know seven 183 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: or oh, look great dominated the Steelers. What do you 184 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: see from the Eagles. Let's dive into the scattering report 185 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: from them. Yeah, I mean they're the best team in 186 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: the league. They have the best record of a lot 187 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: of good players. I'd say, how he's done a really 188 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: good job of putting the team together. How he's been 189 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: there a long time. He's been a part of a 190 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: lot of really good football teams and seen a lot 191 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: of good football players. And then I think Nick has 192 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: come in and kind of added his stamp in a 193 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: short period of time. So come in last year, first 194 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,119 Speaker 1: year as a head coach to go to the playoffs, 195 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: made some strides and they've actually just built on some 196 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: of the things that they did, you know, last season. 197 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: So Nick's an offensive coach, has a really good staff. UM. 198 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: I'd say Nick's involved pretty much in everything. UM. Shane 199 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: Steikens the offensive coordinator who has a background you know 200 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: with Nick in with the Chargers UM. And then j G. 201 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: M is a really good defensive coordinator UM experience coached, 202 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: has been a lot of part of a lot of 203 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: good systems coach Zimmer, coach Staley and in his second 204 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: season as a defensive coordinator. UM. So they have a 205 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: really good coaching staff. I think one of the coaches 206 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: that has been there regardless of who the head coach 207 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: has been as Jeff Stoutland. So Stoutland's one of the 208 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: best offensive line coaches in the league. UM, and he's 209 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: a big part of what they're doing, whether it's a 210 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: run game, whether it's in pass protection. So I'd say 211 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: it kind of starts to the top. So good organizational structure, 212 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: you know, from mister Lurry to you know Howie. And 213 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: then the coaching staff's a really good coaching staff, a 214 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: lot of experience coaches, and they have a lot of 215 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: really good players on really both sides of the ball. 216 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: And then a lot of those players are involved in 217 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: the kicking game as well. What do you make of 218 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: the evolution of jail and Hurts at the quarterback position? 219 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: Because two years ago you look at the completion percentage 220 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: low fifties. It gets better every year. Everything's getting better 221 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: every year for him. So what about his progress neck Yeah, 222 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: I mean I think even you go back and look 223 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: at him from Alabama to Oklahoma, he's a player that's 224 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: always improved from one year to the next. So when 225 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: he was at Alabama, obviously got replaced by Tua, and 226 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: then he went to Oklahoma kind of shifted systems playing 227 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: in Lincoln's offense, and then he's there's a third year 228 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: in the league, but really it's second year playing I'd 229 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: say he's grown and improved probably as much as any 230 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: player on their team understands what they're trying to do offensively, 231 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: makes really good decisions. He's very, very smart, instinctive player, 232 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: and they have certain plays that are designed. There's a 233 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: lot big RPO element what they do offensively. Musually makes 234 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: the right decision, a good decision. He's an accurate thrower, 235 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: He's got good skill players around him, and I'd say 236 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: he's hard to tackle. He's probably one of the better 237 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: running quarterbacks in the league. Not necessarily because he's the fastest, 238 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: but he has really good lower body strength. And when 239 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: you look at their third and one, fourth and one plays, 240 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: I mean they sneaked ball more than any team in league, 241 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: and a lot of that is him just kind of 242 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: creating a really good base and creating leverage and getting movement. 243 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: And he's hard to tackle. He kind of avoids making 244 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: a big hit, so runs their offense very well. I 245 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: say he's a very efficient football players, very smart, instinctive 246 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: football player, makes the right decisions, and they're operating their 247 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: offense at a high level. Nick when it comes to players, 248 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: not just quarterbacks, with players, Jalen Hurts this guy that 249 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: always stands out to me because he's a guy that 250 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: very easily could have transferred when Two would beat him out, 251 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: but he stayed an entire year. In twenty seventeen, and 252 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: Two gets hurt in the STEC championship game and Jalen 253 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: comes in saves them. They get to National championship game 254 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: that year. Now they ended up losing to Clempson, I 255 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: believe that year. But he went through adversity as a player. 256 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: It wasn't smooth sailing. He then had a transferred o 257 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: Columba to get an opportunity, and he's obviously gotten better. 258 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: How much does that play into the football character of 259 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: a guy and how much does that matter when you're 260 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: looking at players that you want to acquire here, No, 261 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: it's massive, absolutely. I mean, this game is about physical 262 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: and mental toughness. So everybody sees the physical toughness, but 263 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: mental toughness kind of takes on many different shapes and sizes, 264 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: so and Jalen's particular a lot of mental toughness and 265 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: to say a lot of selflessness in terms of his 266 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: attitude and his approach in terms of being a good 267 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: teammate and supporting a player that essentially took your job. 268 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: But he didn't pout. He just stayed ready to go. 269 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: He's very professional, he has a really good demeanor, doesn't 270 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: really let too much bother him. And then when he 271 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: had to go in and playing the SEC championship game, 272 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: him and he was a big part of the reason 273 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: that they won that game. So it's kind of the 274 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: same thing. Fast Forward drafted in second round, didn't really 275 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: play much as a rookie, was thrust into the lineup, 276 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: and he's taken advantage of his opportunity, and he has 277 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: a good, i would say, demeanor and presence about him, 278 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: and really it's permeated the entire team. And he's kind 279 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: of talked about that and spoke on it here, you know, recently, 280 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: But they're kind of a reflection to him, his personality. 281 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: To some degree. Each player has their own personality, but 282 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: I'd say that mental and physical toughness that he possesses 283 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: when you look at their team, there's a lot of 284 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: players that have those types of characteristics. Nick, As you 285 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: follow college players and evaluate them for next year's draft, 286 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to focus on that for a moment here. 287 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: When you guys are doing that, do you follow all 288 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: the players week to week and the course of their 289 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: season and how it all plays out in real time, 290 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: because I would think that gives you a different element 291 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: of information as opposed to just looking at it all 292 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: after the season on tape. No, absolutely, Mark, So when 293 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: you kind of look at our process, so i'd say 294 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: the first initial visit is going to be probably sometime 295 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: in training camp, so you see him in practice, you 296 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: see him in that environment, and then you'll probably see 297 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: him live at a game, and then you'll go back 298 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: into the school and then you'll get more follow up information. 299 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: So you're not necessarily tracking the week to week, but 300 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: there's multiple checkpoints. You could have let's say three or 301 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: four different opportunities exposures during the course of the year 302 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: where you see a player, where you're getting information, where 303 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: you talk to a coach before the game, you see 304 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: something at practice, you see something happen during a game. 305 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: So I'd say that's the benefit you really you don't 306 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: want to wait until Okay, season's over. Now it's time 307 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: that you're ready for the draft. All right, let's start 308 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: our process. We have a lot of information that comes 309 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: in our systems, so we can kind of track these 310 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: players and the area scouts. I'd say they're in the 311 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: schools on a weekly basis, day basis, they're basically at 312 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: a different school each day, and you're looking at different players, 313 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: So you're trying to create a profile of what we 314 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: think we're gonna have with that particular player. So it 315 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily automatically mean they're going to be the best player. 316 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: But here's his attributes, here's what he possesses, here's his characteristics. 317 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: And then if you're able to see something live. With 318 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: a good fortune of being able to go to some 319 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: games this year, and again you're not going specifically to 320 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: a certain game to watch a specific player. You're kind 321 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: of looking at everybody that you think is going to 322 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: be draft elegent. What are the guys gonna be drafting 323 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: in the first round, whether guys gonna be drafted or 324 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: not drafted, drafted later or after the draft. So but 325 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: you're making observations. You're just trying to accumulate information so 326 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: that we're as well educated as possible. And really that's 327 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: the investment that you're making. You're investing in the person 328 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: along with the player, but the person is a big 329 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: part of it. The Eagles invested in a big fellow, 330 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: Jordan Davis, but got banged up yesterday and it looks 331 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: like he's gonna definitely miss this game. How much do 332 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: they miss without having that dude in the middle. Yeah, 333 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: I'd say the defensive line is probably the strength that 334 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: are their defense. It's really kind of a front seven, 335 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: so they usually have sort of five down. They usually 336 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: have somebody on each offensive lineman or the three interior guys, 337 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: and usually have somebody on the perimeter. Jordan was playing 338 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: about twenty five thirty percent a massive presence in the 339 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: middle of the defense, so when he was able to 340 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: get going vertically, he just stressed. I would say the 341 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: interior of the offensive line. But when they have a 342 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: good front, they play everybody. They play eight nine guys 343 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: at the game. I mean, Fletcher Cox has been as 344 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: consistent and as productive a player for as long as 345 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: he's been in the league. You know, BG, Brandon Graham's 346 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: kind of in the same boat, and those are two 347 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: players that have been there a long time. They kind 348 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: of seen the ups and downs, but they're really good 349 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: football players. Sweat And has kind of developed there on 350 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: the edge, kind of had an injury coming out, but 351 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: he's kind of evolved. They signed Reddick in for agency, 352 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: who's a really good pass rusher, had a real productive season. 353 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: You know. Last year in Carolina they just traded for Quinn, 354 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: So they present a lot of problems on the front. 355 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: There a couple of good linebackers, and then Slay and 356 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: Bradberry have played, you know, probably as good as any 357 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: corners in the league. This year. Traded for Gardner Johnson 358 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: there right around training camp or he ended a preseason, 359 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: so they've upgraded their talent. So if Davis doesn't play, 360 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, it'll be a little bit of a loss 361 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: there for him. He's done a good job for him, 362 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: but they have plenty of other players that can kind 363 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: of pick up the slack. You talked with the defense 364 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: about needing to tackle better and everything offensively to move 365 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: the ball better. Obviously better than Sunday, but on a 366 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: short week, what's important about rallying in a short amount 367 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: of time to get things moving in the right direction 368 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: on Thursday night. Yeah, sometimes you find going from Sunday 369 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: to Thursday you just have to simplify things a little bit. 370 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's not about necessarily a bunch of new 371 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: plays or doing a bunch of new things. So there's 372 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: probably going to be some degree of carryovers, you know 373 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: what you call or some of the plays are gonna 374 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: have some application to what you know Philly does. It'd 375 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: say really where you're gonna have to have some specific 376 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: things will probably be third down in the red area. 377 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: So the big thing from the Tennessee game, we just 378 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: had too many negative plays on first and second downs. 379 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: So first and ten went from second and fifteen, or 380 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: second and two went to second and twelve. So those 381 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: negative plays just limited the negative plays because it has 382 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: a trickle that effect on what happens on third down. 383 00:16:58,720 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: So if we can just kind of stay out of 384 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: the negative play situation and just kind of keep the 385 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: ball moving forward, then I'll put ourselves in a position 386 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: where I mean, the Eagles are you know in our 387 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: top I want to say ten and a lot of 388 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: the statistical categories on defense. Um, so you know, to 389 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: beat a good team, we're gonna have to make sure 390 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: we ask you and just try to limit the negative 391 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: plays and take care of football. Will certainly be at 392 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: a premium. I certainly remember a time on a Thursday 393 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: night week three to twenty sixteen when a team had 394 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: to put in almost a whole new offense to beat 395 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: us twenty seven and nothing that need to bring that 396 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: all up, but it's been done. There was a couple 397 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: maybe scheme plays that went in for that one. I 398 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: didn't see Tom Brady running running the quarterback run around 399 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: the corner. I didn't see that in the playbook anywhere. 400 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: Eagles with their running game, it's Jalen Hurts, Miles Sanders, 401 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: but it's the way they go about it, Nick uh 402 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: the zone read and the thing that they're doing there, 403 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: which can be very difficult to stop. Obviously, the Titan 404 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: ran a little bit of zone read yesterday. That's what 405 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: Henry got his touchdown on. Even though it was a 406 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: it was a give. It's that aspect. How difficult does 407 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: that become to prepare because you don't see that every week, 408 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: but you did see it a little bit against the Titans, 409 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: So that help going into Thursday. Yeah, smaller dose will 410 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: be some carryover. I mean, it plays that hurt you 411 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: one week, you're inevitably probably going to see them at 412 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: some point along the way. Specific to the Eagles, they're 413 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: about seventy percent eleven personnel teams, so you don't have 414 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: a fullback, so one tight end and you're in the gun. 415 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: I want to say, eighty five ninety percent at a time. 416 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: So wherever they displace the back, whether it's to the 417 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: left of Jalen or to the right, they don't really 418 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: put him in the dot position that much. So really 419 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: just have to make sure that you have the offense 420 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,479 Speaker 1: leverage as much as possible. You have to make sure 421 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: your account for everybody, but the RPO element is a 422 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: huge part of their offense and they execute at a 423 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: high level. So we have to be disciplined or have 424 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: to make sure we're position properly. There's a certain gap 425 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: or integrity that's going to have to take place, and 426 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: we just have to make sure that we're leverage as 427 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: much as possible. And then this goes back to what 428 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about with Hurts. He's a really good decision maker, 429 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: very smart, intuitive players. So inevitably he makes the right 430 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: decision based on what he sees and it puts a 431 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: lot of tacks and stress on the defense. Nick, we 432 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: appreciate you wearing battle red sort today during this your 433 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: thoughts on the red helmet, I mean that kind of 434 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: juices up the players probably a little bit. Yeah, I'm 435 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: not a big fashion guy, so that's probably work but 436 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: anytime you kind of change that ticket, if you had 437 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: that out there, introduced something a little bit new, so 438 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: adds a little bit of fervor and energy. So maybe 439 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: it'll give us a chance to play better. But any end, 440 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: it's going to come out of execution, not what color 441 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: jerseys and helmets were wearing. So it's probably more for 442 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: the fans more than anything else. We need a red vest, 443 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: that's what we need. Thanks a lot for joining us, 444 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: good luck, Thanks guys. I got a feeling after his 445 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: response to that, We're probably not gonna see a red 446 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: vest on Thursday night. I'm not holding out hope, but 447 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: maybe just a vest, just a vest is cool. I 448 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: got my gear ready, I got my h Town gear 449 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: ready to go for Thursday night, So I'm pumped about that. 450 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: Now each and every Friday before a game, I do 451 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: my keys to the game. But each every Wednesday I 452 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: sit down with Mark and we kind of chat through 453 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: a number of things going on with the team, that's 454 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: going on, with the game coming up, what's going on 455 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: the NFL. So I thought, let's merged the two. Let's 456 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: bring Mark in and do keys the game that's next 457 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: right here on Texan to all Access. Welcome back to 458 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: a Wednesday edition of Texas All Access from Nday Texans 459 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: Radio Studio. I am John, that is Mark. Each and 460 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: every Friday, Mark, I do a segment called Keys to 461 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: the Game, and I do it, give my music going, 462 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: I talk about the keys. But this is a little 463 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: This is a little different because it's Thursday night and 464 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: you and I usually do a segment on Wednesday kind 465 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: of talking about the game that's gonna happen on Sunday. 466 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: So I thought, what a better marriage than Keys to 467 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: the Game with you along. So I'm gonna present my 468 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: Keys to the Game, and I want you to chime 469 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: in and give me your thoughts on these particular keys. 470 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: Let's go. So give me my music. There it is it? Yeah? Well, 471 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: NFL music in the background always pumped up a little bit. 472 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about keys game against the Eagles. 473 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: This Eagles offense six NFL one hundred, one hundred fifty 474 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: yards per game on the ground, two hundred forty six 475 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: through the air. That's tenth third overall, with a shade 476 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: under four hundred yards per game. They've only lost two 477 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: turnovers wholely smokes hot. Let's start here with a guy 478 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: that I am. I already loved because of how he 479 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: handled the situation Alabama, how he handle the situation in Philly, 480 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: and how that offense is growing around him as he grows. 481 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: The first key of this game is Jalen Hurts quite 482 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: obviously channel be high school coming back home. Jalen Hurts 483 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: has not only become mark a guy that can run, 484 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: but his throwing acumen, as he showed last week against Pittsburgh, 485 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: is off the charts. I'm really worried about what he's 486 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: gonna do on Thursday. Yeah, well, I'm worried if I'm 487 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: every Philadelphia opponent every week, because what he's done is 488 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: what you want to see everybody do when he's on 489 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: your team. Is get better right twenty twenty? Look at 490 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: the numbers, just over fifty percent completion rate? Is he 491 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 1: really did? A guy on him thinks they'll give him 492 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: another year. A year ago, we talked about this last 493 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: night on Texans All Access. A year ago, they wanted 494 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson. They wanted to make a deal. There 495 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: was reportedly an offer on the table. It didn't go 496 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: through various reasons, maybe Watson didn't want to go there. 497 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: That was actually one of the reports. But the point 498 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: is they didn't even believe in him this much exactly 499 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: a year ago. Well a year later, He's a terrific quarterback. 500 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: They're a terrific team. They've got chemistry. He's a leader, 501 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: and I like what you said, Johnny, the way he 502 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: handled himself in college. He's like one of those guys. 503 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: Watson was kind of like this too. Let's be honest. 504 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: When you played that many big games in college and 505 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: have been through some situations like Hurtz has, well, you 506 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: come into the league already with some it's not professional experience, 507 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: but let's be honest, it kind of is. Right when 508 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: you're playing in front of big crowds, big programs, big games, 509 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: and a situation where he transferred to another big time 510 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: program and played for Lincoln Riley. My goodness, that's a 511 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: lot of experience already, and they're building so nicely from him. 512 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: I think the biggest upset here with the Eagles is 513 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: Siriani's introductory press conference versus the results he's getting. My goodness, 514 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: because a lot of people just wrote them off based 515 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: on that. You can't write off people based on a 516 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: sound bite. The point is Hurts is awesome. He's dangerous. 517 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: He can run it, he can throw it, he can 518 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: throw it really well, and they're scoring a lot of points. 519 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: My gosh, you better find a way to slow down 520 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: that running game. Hope that you can get something going 521 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: on third down defensively and take it from there. So 522 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: each and every week I come up with kind of 523 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: a little kitchy title for each of my keys. So 524 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: the first one was it hurts because he's true. That's 525 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: about Janalen Hurts. The second one is just again question mark, 526 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: do you know who that refers to? Again? Question Quinn? 527 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: No offense, stay with these, staying with Eagles offense. Don't 528 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: take another running back another running backs? Who did we 529 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: see for two times a year that killed a Brown? 530 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: Because there is And look, we watched him developed too 531 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: as a rookie. Interesting, you know, catch and run guy. 532 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: He can. Yeah, it looks looks like he's got some 533 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: pretty good hands. He can make some big plays. We'll 534 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: see how he develops well. He's developed, ladies and gentlemen. 535 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: And that draft weekend deal looks phenomenal for the Eagles 536 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: right now. I don't care what you give up when 537 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: you're getting that kind of production out of a human being, 538 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: as long as he stays healthy for them. Look, it's 539 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: early and I'm gonna go back to this point a 540 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: lot with them. There's seven and oh good for them. 541 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: You know, we talked about the Bengals being eight no 542 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen. I get it. But the point is 543 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: they're off to a phenomenal start. They gotta keep it going. 544 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: They'll be the first to tell you this doesn't matter. 545 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: They got to play well in December in January obviously, 546 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: but you couldn't answer for a better start from a team, 547 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: no doubt. A J. Brown was phenomenally a three touchdown 548 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: catches against the Steelers last week, and seeing that as 549 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: warming up for the Texans, I'm like, yeah, yeah, he's 550 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: a Texans killer. Yes, we saw what he did against 551 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: the Texans in the twenty twenty, especially the finale that 552 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: long past that got them into field goal range where 553 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: they hit the think off the upright and think off 554 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 1: the crossbar and throw for the game winner. That catch 555 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: he had Dawnfield just showed me that he's not Andre Johnson, 556 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: but he kind of reminds me of Andre Johnson. He's 557 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: sort of a sub Andre Johnson, and I look, I 558 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: like his work, but not against the Texans. I really gosh. 559 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: He's been tremendous against the Texans. The only time the 560 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: Texans had successes in twenty twenty one when Dez King 561 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: hit him in the ribs and knocked him out of 562 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: the game in twenty twenty one up there in the rain, 563 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: and we end up winning that game. So how do 564 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: you account for a J. Brown? Oh, you might have 565 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: to give some help. You might have to give some 566 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: help to Sting. If it's Sting, if it's Nels, I 567 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: don't care who it is. How do you give him 568 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: help when you got to load the box against Miles Sanders? 569 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: Oh exactly, Well, maybe maybe Staying can do some things here. 570 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: And that's that. That's the test. That's the test. Number 571 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: three overall gonna get test on Thursday, and that becomes 572 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: super important because of what comes at number three, three 573 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: hundred four reasons why the Texans have to, as I 574 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: put here in my key, confront them violently. Last week 575 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: against it doesn't even feel like last week. It was 576 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: just four days ago. The Texans gave up three hundred 577 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: plus rushing yards to Tennessee Titans. I felt like one 578 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: thing that was lacking outside of tackling Mark was at 579 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, confronting that offensive front with violence. 580 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: Football violence, mind you, but violence getting off of blocks. 581 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: I feel like the last couple of drives, I felt 582 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: like they finally started showing some of that. Now you 583 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: had some young dudes on the interior, but you got 584 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: vetch at defensive end. They've got to take their game 585 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: up and attack this offensive line violently, because that offensive 586 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: line with Kelsey Dickerson, Simalu, Lane Johnson, and Jordan Mailata, 587 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: if you don't attack them violently, they will stop a 588 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: mud hole in you. They will stomp you. And if 589 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: you think Tennessee's offensive line did that, wait until you 590 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: see these guys. So if you don't answer forced with 591 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: four violence with violence, it's gonna be a long freaking 592 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: night for that defensive front. Wrong kind of game to 593 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: play four days after you played the Tennessee Titans and 594 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: that was so physical. Look win or lose. You knew 595 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: this was going to be tough in terms of the 596 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: region aspect of it. Recovery getting ready to play a 597 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: Thursday night game against another physical team. Physical in a 598 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: different way, but physical nonetheless, So better get ready, Johnny 599 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: in some ways. This is not about This is not 600 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: about the x's and ohs. This is about rising up 601 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: whatever energy you have. How much does it mean to 602 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: you national television. I thought they'd be much more up 603 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: for the Tennessee game. Maybe they were up for it. 604 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: They were just out manned, they were just overwhelmed whatever. 605 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: Maybe they were that much that maybe they were up enough. 606 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: Whatever the case is. They gave up over three bills 607 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: in rushing. Man gotta find a way to be strong 608 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: physical point of attack, like you said, And that's easier 609 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: said than done against this team. Yeah, no doubt. Let's 610 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: flip it over to the Eagles defensive side. Now, they 611 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: gave up one hundred fifteen yards per game on the ground. 612 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: That's right in the middle. That's close to the middle. 613 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: It's fifteenth in the end. They do give up some 614 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: yards in the ground, however, it's a no fly zone. 615 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: One hundred and eighty three point four yards per game 616 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: through the year. That's fourth. That makes them fourth in 617 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: the league, just under three hundred yards per game. Here's 618 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: a massive and I'll get to this key in a 619 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: little bit. You know what their turnover margin is, Yeah, 620 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: it's it's the first in the league's fourteen. Okay, so 621 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: I said this when we'll get this key in a 622 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: long way too. My first thought was when Drew brought 623 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: it up, I'm like, well, that's because Trevor Lawrence turned 624 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: the ball over four times. If you take those four 625 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: fumbles that Trevor Lawrence had, they're still first. They're still first. 626 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: They're still first in the league. And I'll get to 627 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: why that matters in a second. Obviously we know why 628 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: I takeaways matter, but you put the math behind it, 629 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: you're like the first one. First key for the Eagles 630 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: defense rejuvenated. When Darius Slay was with the Lions at 631 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: the end of his Lions run, it was kind of like, 632 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: and maybe it was you had some Lions stench on him. 633 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, but Darius Slay wasn't thought to be 634 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: one of the top corners in the league. James Bradberry 635 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: was so lowly thought of by the new Giants management 636 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: they just let him go, like go ahead, just well, 637 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: we're done, and he's signs with the Eagles. Now the 638 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: Eagles have arguably the best pair of corners in the league, 639 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: and Darius Slay and James brad Berry, how does that happen. 640 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: You know, it's one of those Howie Roseman things where 641 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: he goes out and he's like, can is there an inefficiency? 642 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: We need a corner. We liked what we've seen from 643 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,959 Speaker 1: Darius Slay and we think getting here in Philly, surrounding 644 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: him with some talent, it's gonna make him better. The 645 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: Bradberry one is kind of the one that's a little 646 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: a little mystified because he was just not good with 647 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: the Giants. Also when he gets to Philadelphia and it 648 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: just fits, and we saw that mark in twenty eleven, 649 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: what happened. Jjoe comes over. Now Jjo was good with 650 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: the Bengals, but Jjoe comes over, Daniel Manny comes over, 651 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: and those two guys were even better than they were 652 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: in their two other stops. Now there was pass rush 653 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: help in them out too. There you go. And also 654 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: and also Bryce McCain add him to that because he 655 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,239 Speaker 1: played a whole lot better in a year where they 656 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: drafted a couple of corners to try to replace him, 657 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: but he rose his game up. Johnny. I think the 658 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: hardest thing for a GM or any talent value leader 659 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: must be who's the guy who's got those skills, Who's 660 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: not playing well, but he's going to resurrect his career 661 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: somehow and play much better. I don't know how you 662 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: predict that. I don't know what metrics you have that 663 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: lead you into that thought process of this is the 664 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: guy who's gonna up his game or re up his game. 665 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: It's so hard to tell, but they're doing it. Yeah, 666 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: there's no question those guys have been doing it. Slam 667 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: Brad Berry. It's gonna be an interesting matchup for this 668 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: passing game against especially those two. CJ. Garter Johnson, I've 669 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: always been a fan of Now he talks a lot 670 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: I don't always love, but he's a really interesting guy 671 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: at safety for that team. And if they get some 672 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: pass rush, which leads me to key number two and 673 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: I same key as the other one, it's again question Mark, 674 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: and it's the guy that you did mention, Robert Quinn. Yep, 675 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: because the Texas will be facing Robert Quinn for the 676 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: second time this year. They face him in Week three 677 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: at Chicago, and Larry Tunson did a really nice job 678 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: of slowing him down. And this is one of the 679 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: things about facing edge rushers this year, Mark, because the 680 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: fact that if you've got a pretty good edge rusher. 681 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: If you want to get him involved, you're gonna have 682 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: to do some things with some t E stunts, some 683 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: ET stunts to get them moving on the inside. Because 684 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: if you're gonna go one on one against Titus and 685 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: go against Laramie, you're gonna have issues. Robert Quinn found 686 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: it out in the game at Chicago. So what has 687 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: Robert Quinn learned from that matchup in Chicago and Laramie 688 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: did a really nice job against him, And what does 689 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: he bring forward as he goes against Laramy Tunsil this time? 690 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: That is gonna be I think a major key for 691 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: the Texans offense and slowing Robert Quinn down. And how 692 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: does Jonathan gain him? The defensive coordinator scheming up for 693 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: Quinn to get him loose, maybe moves him to Titus decide, 694 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: Maybe he moves him inside. So I'm curious to see 695 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: how the Eagles end up deploying Quinn because he doesn't 696 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: have to play every down. He could play just spot nows. 697 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: He needed to play on pass rushdowns, and I think 698 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: that makes him very very dangerous, especially along what else 699 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: they have on that defense. You know what he's learned, 700 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: You know what they've learned. You know what Gannon has learned? 701 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: All right, it's one thing on the edge. What edge 702 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: rusher has destroyed the Texans this year? Nobody really, nobody, right, nobody, 703 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 1: but you know how they've been getting destroyed. And you 704 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: know this right here it is listeners, Fletcher Cocks, Javon Hargrave. 705 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: Stop those dudes from getting up the middle because up 706 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: the middle pressure has been killing the Texans when they've 707 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: had issues in the backfield, pressure wise, like they did 708 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: against the Tennessee Titans. Mills not able to step into 709 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: throws or sometimes maybe I don't want to say he's 710 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: reluctant to do it sometimes because there's a lot of 711 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: traffic in there. But whatever the issue is, we all 712 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: saw what happened when those two big, beefy guys spend 713 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: a lot of time in the Texans backfield. You can't 714 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: have that happen up the middle because on the edges, 715 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: you're right, Laramie and Titus have been doing a pretty 716 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: decent job against some of the bigger names in the league. Yeah, 717 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: and it's a matter of holding up inside and when 718 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: Quinn does loop inside or do some things coming inside, 719 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: Texans interiors got to be able to handle that. Hopefully 720 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: a Jay can't be ready to go to help against 721 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: whatever they've got. But man, Fletcher Cox. I love the 722 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: story about Fletcher Cox. When Robert Quinn got to Philadelphia, 723 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox walked over to his locker room and introduced 724 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: himself and said, hey man, just so you know, we 725 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: practice hard here and walked away. It's like, okay, leader 726 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: right there. No doubt he's been He's seen some things. Now. 727 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox has been in Philadelphia for a while, so 728 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: is Brandon Graham, so he got to account for him 729 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: as well. And the last key against the Eagles defense 730 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: I titled will take that obviously refers to the takeaways 731 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: that the Philadelphia Eagles have. So I did some some 732 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: math on this. It's pretty easy. They have a plus 733 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: fourteen turnover margin right in seven games. So if you 734 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: do the math on that, that means they've had two 735 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: per game extra possessions per game over the opponent. Yeah, 736 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: not like this, not like this offense needs it, right 737 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: because they're still getting yards. This is not fantom scoring 738 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: by the Eagles. They get yards round, they get some 739 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: yards here, and they're good defensively. Likely said, they have 740 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: allowed some rushing yards, but you don't score points against them, 741 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: and in large part because they are turning you over. 742 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: But they also play good red zone defense. Johnny, the 743 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: thing about the turnover margin, you brought this up. If 744 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: they don't get those four from Trevor Lawrence, they're still 745 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: in first place by four total takeaways, ahead of the 746 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. In fact, the Texans are tied for fifth 747 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 1: in turnover margin, but that's at plus three. That's eleven 748 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: behind the first place Philadelphia Eagles, who are just setting 749 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: the world on fire. This is incredible what they're doing. 750 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: Ball security is always at a premium making smart decisions. 751 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kind of fly in the face of that 752 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't want to turn the ball 753 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: over three the Eagles, but there's a part of me 754 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: that just wants to wants Davis Mills to let his 755 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: freak flag file a little bit. Yeah, just let it go. 756 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: Just whatever, And I know all weeks. Look, they get takeaways, 757 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: they get takeaways. Take care of football. Take yes, take 758 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: care of the football is right. But if you keep 759 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: tiptoeing into the room, you ain't going anywhere, right, So 760 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go in a bus eight hundred 761 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: pound grill in the mouth. Bruce Arians here you go, 762 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: no risk, no risk it, no biscuit. That's probably the 763 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: best way to finish this. Mark, nice job chiming in 764 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: on my Keys to the Game. I love it. Maybe 765 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: I'll bring you back for a guest appearance a little 766 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: bit later in not only the show, but for Keys 767 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: to Game later down the road. All right, coming up next, 768 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: it's a little Drew's dozen. This time it's with number 769 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: one Traymond Smith. Next right here in Texas All Access. 770 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: Jump right back into this Wednesday. They should have Texas 771 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: All Access. I'm John Harris Football on us. Saw the reporter, 772 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: glad to be with you. That was fun to share 773 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: Keys to the Game with Mark, and you handled it 774 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: very well with all the music going, because you know, 775 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: sometimes it could be distracting, I guess, but I love 776 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: it. It It gets me in the mood, if you know 777 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 1: what I mean. So let's leave that behind it. Let's 778 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: move ahead. We're gonna hear from Traymond Smith with a 779 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 1: little Drews does in it just a second, but we 780 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: gotta get to the status report for this game. On Thursday. 781 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: Texans have five players out of this one, Grayland, Arnold, 782 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: maliek Collins, Nico Collins, Neville Hewitt dealing hamstring and Justin 783 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: McCrae suffered a concussion that game last week against Tennessee 784 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: tit so. Five players are out. Three are questionable, including 785 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks. He was a DNP on Wednesday and Tuesday 786 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: as well. Christian Harris Desmond King were both full participants 787 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: today in a walk through they were They're both questionable. A. J. 788 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: Cann is back, which is great. Roy Lopez's shoulder he 789 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 1: was a full participant today. He is back as well 790 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: for the Eagles. The big fellow Jordan Davis out, jose 791 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: As Scott cornerback out. Everybody else that seems is very 792 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: very healthy. Hey, so go and there a little banged up. 793 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: See what you're made of. See what happens with Brandon Cooks, 794 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver, questionable for this game. Now. A guy that's 795 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: not an injury report. He's Traymont Smith. You little Drew's 796 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: dozen with Drew Doherty Drew so here, one of the 797 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: greatest special team enfranchise history. Tremont Smith, You're ready for 798 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 1: some Jenger, Yes, sir, I ain't played in a minute, 799 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: but I'm ready Marvel a DC. I'm not big in neither, 800 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: but I definitely have to go Marvel. Okay, you got 801 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: a favorite one? No, I don't like I said, I'm 802 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 1: not big into it, but if anything, it would be Marvel. 803 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: Which teammate is the best hype man who get you up? 804 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: I go Tavia Thomas. Okay, t Thomas. What's he do? How? 805 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: So he just he just says stuff that you know 806 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: that you're getting under my skin, that it made me 807 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: go play mad and just go make a play. So 808 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: he gives an example. He'd like, you look real weak 809 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: on that last play, like go make a play, or 810 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: you missed that tackle, like stop missing the tackle. Making 811 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: a tackle. He supposed to have four or five tackles 812 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: this game. So he'll just say something a little like that. 813 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: Was he in your ear before you pop that ball? 814 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: He was just emphasized, I need to make a play. 815 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: And then he was like, your mom's in the stand, 816 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: go make a play. And he was like after the play, 817 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 1: he was like, your mom need to come to every game. 818 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,959 Speaker 1: You always make a play with your mom here. So okay, 819 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 1: that's good. That's one of the few times when you 820 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: can invoke somebody's mom and make him play better, and 821 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: you know you're not not pissing somebody off. Where was 822 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: your mom in for? And it's in Alabama? Okay? Best 823 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 1: concert you have been to? I'd say twenty eighteen. I 824 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 1: went to the Drake and Future concert. What a time 825 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: to be alive. Wow? Where was that? It was in Dallas? 826 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: It might have been It was twenty sixteen, Actually twenty sixteen. 827 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: So you're show in common college, sir. It sounds like 828 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,720 Speaker 1: fun an certain life, not bad. What's your favorite TikTok dance? 829 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: I don't have. Look, I don't even have TikTok on 830 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: my phone. Honestly, there's nothing wrong with that. Yes to 831 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: social media for me, I'm thriving. You're thriving. We don't 832 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: need TikTok. There you go. What would your walk up 833 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: song being? Right now? I will go future March Madness. 834 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: Oh okay, it's anything future. Okay. So you said right now? 835 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: Was it something else recently? Oh? It changed up. It 836 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: depends on how you know. Game day. I wake up 837 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: that morning, I have a certain song or a certain 838 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: list that I go through. So is that one of 839 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: the ones you're listening to you right now? I'm gonna 840 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: listening to that every time, though, Future March Madness. I'm 841 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: gonna listen to that every time. All right, I'm gonna 842 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: have to look that up. Who is your celebrity lookalike? 843 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: Future Future? Yeah? I go future is We always wear 844 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: heads all the homee Okay, who has the cleanest locker 845 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: on the team? Can? I can't say myself? Of course 846 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna n free. I hang up all my stuff 847 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: all the time, but behind me, Jay, I'll try to 848 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,439 Speaker 1: keep it as nice. Okay, that's good for effort. Who's 849 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: who's got the messiest TC or Grayland Caviro or Gray 850 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: lan rd? Okay, you're great, Lan bad? He just got 851 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: too much clothes keeping it all on the dB TTC 852 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: right here, I'm in the middle, and then gray Land 853 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: on the other side. So it's like you're surrounding my 854 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: nest year stuff. I always in my locker, he always 855 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: taking my slide. It's bad. It's all bad. Yeah, at 856 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: least you'all get along. Yeah, I know, good thing. I'd 857 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: be to be ugly. If not, it's going down. Were 858 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 1: you a Disney or Nickelodeon kid growing up? What came 859 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: on Nickelodeon Like SpongeBob. Right, that sounds right. Yeah, I 860 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: was Nickelodeon. Okay, Nickelodeon. SpongeBob. Yeah, SpongeBob. You get a 861 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: favorite SpongeBob character himself, like Squidward anything, Noah, that's cool, 862 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 1: he's bad vibes, babes, perfect player. At a barbecue restaurant, 863 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: baby macaroni and cheese. I like sausage a lot, so 864 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: I get the sausage links. Okay, you gotta have a 865 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: piece of bread, piece of bread, spicy barbecue, sauce, any 866 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: sort of dessert. I don't do this. I'm not a 867 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: big not a sweet guy, not a sweets guy at all. 868 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 1: As Wow. Interesting, Okay, what's the best piece of advice 869 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: you've ever been given? Control what you can control. It's good. 870 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: It's a lot of things that's not you know, you 871 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: got to just deal with and you just you gotta 872 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: keep going and push through and always come with a 873 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: good energy, good vibes and good things to happen. Nice. 874 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: Do you remember who gave you that advice? Or when 875 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 1: one of my college coaches? And it's just always stuck 876 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: with me, and I just always catch myself saying it's 877 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: still to this day. So Yeah, that's great advice. To 878 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 1: control what you can control. It's hard to like stay 879 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: stay with that, but yeah, that's that's good advice. Favorite 880 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: nick name, Oh yeah, what do you got? One way? 881 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: One way because of your number one or something else? 882 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: Got it in college? Okay, it started off. I was 883 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: number one in college. My friends used to call me 884 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: oom slice. I was like, that's kind of hard to say. 885 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: It's ton twisted, and then looked at the street side 886 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 1: one day, one way, looked at my I'm going one way. 887 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: I like one way, and you go north and south 888 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: and I go north and south. So I've been one 889 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: way every since. That's a great I like that. See 890 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: my Instagram name too, that's good stuff that you got 891 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: any other nicknames show time? It used to be show time? 892 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean you got cool nicknames I get, Like, my 893 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: nickname is Grandpa. Grandpa is my Facebook name RF Facebook? 894 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: I don't got an He's winning the nickname battle, definitely. 895 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to win the Jinga battle, but I 896 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:29,800 Speaker 1: don't know I was going down. Well, you're making plays, 897 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: you're winning Jinga. Great to see it one way, Thank 898 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: you so much. Appreciate that. Traymont Smith straight winning man, 899 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: Drew just keeps losing. Man, Drew's gotta win some at 900 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 1: some point. All right, we got one one hour to go. 901 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,959 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a little Troy Harriston with Deep City. 902 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: We got a little Dave Zangaro who covers the Eagles 903 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: with dpcitu. We also got the final word but Drew 904 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: Doherty and we're gonna kick off this for second hour 905 00:41:54,400 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: with Merrill Reese, long time legendary Philadelphia Eagles voice play 906 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 1: by play man for them, our play by play legend 907 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: Mark Vandomir will sit down with Merrill Reese. Next men 908 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,240 Speaker 1: behind the mic soun Texans All Access. Welcome back everybody 909 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 1: this Wednesday, the show Texans All Access Second Hour coming 910 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: at your host, John Harris, Football on a sideline reporter 911 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: and one of the biggest fans of NFL films. And 912 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: I've been watching NFL films for as long as as 913 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: I can remember, and when I was a wee lad, 914 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: I remember, and this was in the late seventies, early eighties. 915 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: I remember seeing highlights of the late seventies Eagles and 916 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: Dick Vermiel, who just loved his players, very emotional, and 917 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: I remember the voice in the background sounded so cool, 918 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: And that was Merrill Reee. He's been the voice of 919 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 1: the Eagles for a long long time and does a 920 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,879 Speaker 1: tremendous job. I love listening to the Eagles broadcast when 921 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm out and about on a bye week or like 922 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: this week could be a mini bio. Typically were listening 923 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: on a Sunday Love listen to Merrill Reese. You know 924 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 1: how much I love Mark Vandomir and those two chopped 925 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 1: it up for this game on Thursday Nights Men behind 926 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: Mike's Mark. With Merrill now joining us right now in 927 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: Texans Radio, it's voice of the Philadelphia Eagles, Meryll Reese, Merrill, 928 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,359 Speaker 1: wonderful to have you on. How's it going, my friend? 929 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 1: It's going the way you would think seven and oh 930 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: what seemed to be going. It's been a remarkable season 931 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: so far. Mark, Yeah, and you've been through a lot 932 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: of them since nineteen seventy seven. So what do you 933 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: make of this bunch. What's your overall assessment of what 934 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: you've seen so far. I know we still have the 935 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: majority of the regular season to go, but what a start, Merrill. 936 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 1: It's been amazing. Seven or oh equals the best start 937 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,919 Speaker 1: in the franchise history. And they are a good football team. 938 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: I won't try to steer away from that. They are 939 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: a good football team. They've done a great job answering needs. 940 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: Howard Roseman, the general manager, went out and he plugged 941 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: improvements into areas that really needed to be upgraded. That's 942 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,800 Speaker 1: what he did in the off season, both offensively and 943 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: the d and the defense has certainly been a big difference. 944 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: And while there's a lot of uncertainty among the fans 945 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: and some of the media about the future of Jalen 946 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: Hurts after his first couple of seasons, I think that 947 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: that question has been settled. He is a man and 948 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,240 Speaker 1: he is having an outstanding season. Yeah, let's talk about 949 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 1: his development, because you look at the numbers two years ago, 950 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: then last year he ascends, he gets better, he improves. 951 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: What do you attribute that too? And can you just 952 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: discuss the general rise of his ability? Well, I think 953 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: I attributed to number one the work ethic about a 954 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 1: young player who really wants to be the best, About 955 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 1: a guy who wants to spend time every day winning 956 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,919 Speaker 1: the practice, winning the game winning, wants to get better 957 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: every single game. That's what Nick Sirianni, the coach, practice 958 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 1: preachers he talks about let's win today, and Jalen Hursts 959 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: has brought into that. Although he's a coach's son, he's 960 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: always been a winner at every level. All he needed 961 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: was an opportunity. I think Mark, we tend to judge 962 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: quarterbacks too quickly. People after a couple of games said, well, 963 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the arms frames, he doesn't have armed talent. 964 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: He doesn't make decisions fast enough. You look back at 965 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: the really top quarterbacks. You look at Aaron Rodgers at 966 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 1: the beginning of his career. He when he arrived in 967 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: Green Bay, he was drafted in two thousand and five, 968 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 1: and he really didn't play until two thousand and eight. 969 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: He sat behind Brett Barrup and learned. You look at 970 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 1: Drew Brees and a couple of years Drew Brees will 971 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,280 Speaker 1: I'll be sure, I'm sure to be a first ballot 972 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 1: of Hall of Famer. Drew Brees was just so so 973 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: when the Chargers drafted him in the second round out 974 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: of Purdue, and it wasn't until four years later where 975 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: they let him go. He almost signed with Miami, but 976 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: did not meet their physical examination requirements. They still were 977 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 1: worried about the shoulder injury and then he ends up 978 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,320 Speaker 1: in New Orleans and teams up with Sean Payton and 979 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: started upon a Hall of Fame career. I think you 980 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: have to be patient. You have to once in a while. 981 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 1: Once in a while you have someone like Justin Herbert 982 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 1: who takes the NFL by storm, or you take somebody 983 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: like Joe Barrow who ends up in the Super Bowl 984 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: in the second year of his career. But that is 985 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: that really is the exception rather than the rule. But 986 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,800 Speaker 1: by large, you have to be patient with young quarterbacks. 987 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 1: Look what we're seeing right now in Seattle with Gino Smith. 988 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,760 Speaker 1: He was considered a bust at one point, had didn't 989 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: show anything really with the New York Jets, and here 990 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 1: he is with Seattle and he's leading that team. So 991 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: it does happen. Jalen Hurts has talent, He's got an 992 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:50,800 Speaker 1: outstanding arm, he's bright, he is a tireless worker. Meryl 993 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: reis joining us on Texans Radio. Let's talk about Nick Sirianni. 994 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 1: You've been around all these coaches with the Eagles over 995 00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: the years, Meryl and Dick vermil and Andy Reid, Doug Peterson. 996 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,280 Speaker 1: What a Serrianti bring into the table, A passion for football. Again, 997 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: you're talking about a coach's son who grew up as 998 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,280 Speaker 1: a as a Jim Ratt, somebody who just loved playing 999 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 1: football and went to a small college and then began 1000 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:21,240 Speaker 1: his coaching career and took all the prerequisite steps, became 1001 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 1: a good wide receiver coach with Indianapolis and has finally 1002 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: got the chance when the Eagles were tipped off about him. 1003 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 1: He obviously had people who were spouting the phrases of 1004 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni, and they liked what they saw, They liked 1005 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 1: what he heard. They heard he came here as very 1006 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: first press conference. You really walked away scratching your head 1007 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 1: because he seemed really so young and so raw in 1008 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: terms of his means of communicating with the media and 1009 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 1: love watching him last year, they struggled at the beginning 1010 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,919 Speaker 1: of the season and everybody was after him at that time, 1011 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 1: but the team really brought into his message and he 1012 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 1: has great communication skills, he has a love for the game, 1013 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: He has the right sense of authority. They like him 1014 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 1: and respect them. That's a very important combination. And he 1015 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 1: surrounded himself with very good assistant coaches, including Jonathan Gannon, 1016 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,320 Speaker 1: who was the defensive coordinator and Shane Sikan who was 1017 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, and they have just again they have 1018 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: built the team piece by piece and they started to 1019 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 1: progress around the middle of last season, ended up making 1020 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,760 Speaker 1: the playoffs, probably made the playoffs because the playoff format 1021 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 1: admitted an expert team. But they had a nine and 1022 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: eighth season last year and then went down on the playoffs, 1023 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 1: lost Badley to Tampa Bay, went back and added some 1024 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: very important pieces in this soft season, and the product 1025 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 1: of that is a good football team, a very good 1026 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 1: football team. I tell people, the NFL is a war 1027 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 1: patrician and you have to be lucky in the injury department, 1028 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:08,479 Speaker 1: which they have been until yesterday. They lost an important piece, 1029 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 1: Jordan Davis for maybe four to six weeks with a 1030 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 1: high ankle string of number one draft choice, and that 1031 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: will hurt them. But for the most part they have 1032 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 1: stayed healthy. Meryl Reid's voice of the Philadelphia Eagles, joining 1033 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 1: us on Texans Radio. Meryll, Let's talk a little bit 1034 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: about the history of things here and the NFC East. 1035 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,360 Speaker 1: You've seen the ebb and flow of this division. The 1036 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 1: Texans will play every team in the division, starting with 1037 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,359 Speaker 1: the Eagles on Thursday night and where's the NFC East 1038 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,280 Speaker 1: at right now? Obviously the Eagles have the best record. 1039 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: What do you think of the rest of the squads, 1040 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: because it seemed to be a very good season for 1041 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,359 Speaker 1: this division. Well it is. I say that they went 1042 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,760 Speaker 1: from the NFC Least, which they were a couple of seasons, 1043 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 1: to go to the NFC Beasts. Now that may be 1044 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 1: overstating it, but the Eagles are very good. The Cowboys 1045 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: are very good, the Giants, despite their loss to Seattle 1046 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: at Seattle, are very good. And then the fourth team, 1047 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: of course, is the Washington Commanders, who were terrible and 1048 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 1: here they are. They're on a winning Strea because they've 1049 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 1: even the record as board for they have a very 1050 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 1: good coach, Ron Rivera. He stays patient with them, He's 1051 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 1: made the moves they have had to make. I think 1052 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 1: that the Carson Wentz had a lot of struggles going on, 1053 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: and Taylor Heineke has really awakened that team. Meryll, you've 1054 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,240 Speaker 1: been the voice of the Eagles since nineteen seventy seven, 1055 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,760 Speaker 1: and now, if you don't mind me saying, you're eighty 1056 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: years old. So what is the key to being so good? 1057 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: So energetic? Carrying on the way you do at a 1058 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 1: high level doing what you do for the Eagles, and 1059 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 1: I know you're still Are you still co owner of 1060 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 1: a radio station outside of town. I am. I'm managing 1061 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 1: partner's AM station that also does a lot of online 1062 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 1: television work, so we have but we do all kinds 1063 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 1: of high school games, all kinds of sports. I mean, 1064 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: I run it. I don't really go on the air 1065 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: here except for one football show a week, but it's 1066 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. The age doesn't mean a thing 1067 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,919 Speaker 1: to me. I still play one hundred rounds of golf 1068 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 1: a year, so that's pretty good, and and walk courses 1069 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 1: what I at that type of course. But I love it. 1070 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: I still have the passion that I had throughout my 1071 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,280 Speaker 1: life for football, for all sports, but especially for football, 1072 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 1: and it's it's just fun. I look forward to every season. 1073 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 1: I look forward to every game. I have no plans 1074 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 1: to retire anytime. I always kids and say they'll hot 1075 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 1: to remove me with a crane. But it's it's what 1076 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 1: I love to do more than anything else in the world. 1077 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 1: And I really feel great every Sunday when I go 1078 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,320 Speaker 1: to a stadium or on a Thursday night, whatever it 1079 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,720 Speaker 1: is that I'm doing, what I'd rather be doing than anything. 1080 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 1: How about where the league is at right now in 1081 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: terms of the popularity of the NFL. And of course 1082 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 1: you did that first Super Bowl with Ron Jaworski against 1083 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 1: the Raiders. And by the way, what was it the 1084 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty season, the Astros and Phillies got together in 1085 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: the postseason, and now they're together in the World Series. 1086 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 1: But versus the Phillies, versus the rest of the Philadelphia 1087 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 1: sports landscape, the Eagles then and the Eagles now, How 1088 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 1: has it changed, if at all? Well, I think it's 1089 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: it has grown to the point where even though the 1090 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 1: Phillies are in the World Series, and even though this 1091 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: is the city right now is talking about having gone 1092 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 1: through Red October meaning Phillies Red and the Phillies are 1093 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 1: right now the darlings of the sports fan. But I 1094 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 1: don't think that I'm exaggerating when I say that this 1095 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 1: is an Eagles city first and foremost. This is the 1096 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 1: most popular sport enfranchise in this city. There's no doubt 1097 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: about that. They used to talk about baseball being America's pastime, 1098 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,320 Speaker 1: but I think football honestly has passed that. And what 1099 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,879 Speaker 1: about college basketball in Philly? Merrill because I know that. Look, 1100 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 1: I used to do a lot of games there when 1101 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 1: I was working in the Atlantic ten and the nineties. 1102 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 1: But I know even before that, you're talking about double 1103 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,839 Speaker 1: headers at the Palestra and the history of it all 1104 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: in that city. Where is it at now versus then? Mark, 1105 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 1: It's not as great it really, I was with you 1106 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 1: in those days. I did a lot of Big Five 1107 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,360 Speaker 1: basketball games when I was a student and sports director 1108 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 1: of w rt I at the student station at Temple University. 1109 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 1: I used to do a double header on Wednesday night, 1110 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,879 Speaker 1: a Penn game on Friday night, a double header run 1111 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 1: Saturday night. I mean, it was huge. It's really, to 1112 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,280 Speaker 1: be honest with you, I'm sure the other four schools 1113 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't like me to say this, but it's the Big Five. 1114 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 1: But it really is the big one in Villanova and 1115 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 1: the other four. Temple has some interesting prospects this year. 1116 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 1: Ten is really a good IVY League program. LaSalle and 1117 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 1: Saint Jose have watched their programs deteriorate to a point 1118 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 1: where they're really not on the level with I don't 1119 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 1: think they're at the level well Temple temples a bit above, 1120 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 1: but there's still there's still they haven't been a tournament 1121 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 1: team for several years. Aaron McKee the former Sixers. They're 1122 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 1: head coach. Frank Dumpy had been there for many years 1123 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 1: and before him, John Cheney. But they're they're fighting to 1124 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:35,360 Speaker 1: become relevant again. Villanova has been the team winning the 1125 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: two national championship games. But we'll see how they are 1126 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 1: right now because this will be their first year in 1127 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 1: a long time without Jay Wright, who retired from the 1128 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,439 Speaker 1: coaching professions, going to be doing some television and it's 1129 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 1: a new head coach. So again, they do have a 1130 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,239 Speaker 1: strong program and we'll see if he can sustain it. 1131 00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: Merrill reis voye of the Philadelphia Eagles, joining us on 1132 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 1: Texas Radio. A couple of other things here. Andy Reid 1133 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 1: and Donovan McNabb. They had so much success for the Eagles, 1134 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 1: but didn't win the big one. Merrill, how are they 1135 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,280 Speaker 1: regarded in Philadelphia now? Because I know for a while 1136 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,399 Speaker 1: there was some anger I or whatever, frustration maybe among 1137 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 1: the fan base. How do they regard Reid and McNabb now? Well, 1138 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,760 Speaker 1: it's a world where it's what did you do lately? 1139 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 1: Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb went to five NFC championship 1140 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 1: games and the Super Bowl, So he is regarded right 1141 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,160 Speaker 1: now as a great coach. We see what he's done 1142 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 1: in Kansas City. There's note that he's a Hall of 1143 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: Fame coach. He's the winningest coach in Eagles history. So 1144 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: Andy Reid is still regarded with great respect. Donovan, I think, 1145 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,359 Speaker 1: for the most part, is respected and really revered by 1146 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,879 Speaker 1: the fans. If you look at the media guy that's 1147 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,800 Speaker 1: sitting to my left and check the record books, he 1148 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,760 Speaker 1: holds almost every passing record in the history of this team. 1149 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 1: Donovan was a outstanding quarterback and I think he one 1150 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 1: day will receive consideration for the Hall of Fame. But 1151 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 1: they move on. Listen, there's a statue outside the stadium 1152 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 1: of Nick Foles about to run a play called the 1153 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,840 Speaker 1: Philly Special that we all know about from a Super 1154 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 1: Bowl fifty two. So Nick won the Super Bowl, but 1155 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,799 Speaker 1: really was not a starting quarterback here except in an 1156 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 1: emergency situation back in twenty seventeen. But Nick has a 1157 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,760 Speaker 1: lot of popularity here, and of course watching Jalen Hurts, 1158 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 1: he is the new star in town. They've surrounded him 1159 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 1: with great talent. This is probably as good an offensive 1160 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 1: line as there is in the National Football League. I 1161 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,080 Speaker 1: mean they are very, very good. The wide receiver corps 1162 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 1: is the best I've been around, maybe the best in 1163 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 1: the history of the Philadelphia Eagles. And I made that 1164 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: statement one day and somebody said to me, wait a minute, 1165 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,800 Speaker 1: you work with Mike Quick, he's your analyst in the booth. 1166 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: And didn't he team up one year with Harold Carmichael, 1167 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,759 Speaker 1: who last year went to the Hall of Fame. I said, yes, 1168 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 1: they did, but it was Mike's rookie year in which 1169 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 1: he only had ten receptions, and it was pretty much 1170 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 1: at the end of Harold Carmichael's great career, so they 1171 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 1: were not together at their prime. If you look at 1172 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 1: these two, primarily if you look at Devontae Smith, the 1173 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 1: number one draft Quick from last year, and A. J. 1174 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 1: Brown with whom they traded to get with Tennessee, those 1175 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 1: two are absolutely dynamite. And you have Quez Watkins in 1176 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 1: the slot. He's the speed receiver. But the other dangerous 1177 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,280 Speaker 1: receiver is Dallas Goddard at the tight end. He's close 1178 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 1: to being in that elite close. Yeah. I was going 1179 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 1: to ask you about A. J. Brown because we've seen 1180 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 1: him many times before as a Tennessee Titan doing damage 1181 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 1: against the Texans. Is there anybody and compare him too 1182 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 1: that you've seen before. He's so physical. I thought he 1183 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 1: was a little bit like Andre Johnson in a way 1184 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 1: as he was starting to develop. But I don't know 1185 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 1: what thoughts you might have. Well, the thought that people 1186 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 1: here have when you listen to talk radio and you 1187 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,440 Speaker 1: speak with some of the fans, they're comparing him to 1188 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 1: t O Terrell Owens, who when he teamed with Donovan 1189 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 1: McNabb the first year, was absolutely tremendous, big, strong athletic. 1190 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 1: That's what AJ Brown is. The only difference is that 1191 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 1: AJ Brown is a very mild mannered, unassuming guy off 1192 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 1: the football field and a to developed into a very 1193 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,760 Speaker 1: divisive personality. Mari one more for you. What do you 1194 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,960 Speaker 1: think of Thursday night games? As the team has to 1195 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 1: hit the road on Wednesday, so it's a very short week, 1196 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 1: got to be on the road, kind of a long trip. 1197 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 1: What do you think of Thursday night in general and 1198 00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 1: this situation in particular. Well, I think it's tough. I 1199 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 1: think it's tough to play football with three days rest, 1200 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 1: you know, counting the travel, it's a four day bridge 1201 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 1: between the Sunday game and the Thursday Night came. I 1202 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,880 Speaker 1: think it's very, very tough. And there are a lot 1203 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 1: of Thursday night games over the years that they've done 1204 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 1: it that did not go well and people thought it 1205 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 1: was a product of the players not being rested and 1206 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,680 Speaker 1: play at their best. But recently we have seen some 1207 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 1: good for Thursday night performances and there's no reason why 1208 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,960 Speaker 1: this shouldn't be a good game. And in triaging game, 1209 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,840 Speaker 1: I know that youth is down right now one five 1210 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,120 Speaker 1: and one, but they've got a bright young quarterback. And 1211 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 1: to tell you the truth, Mark, you just never know. 1212 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 1: I mean Nick Siriannie doesn't say to the team go 1213 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,600 Speaker 1: out and be eight. No, let's see if you can. 1214 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 1: Let's see if you can be an undefeated team for 1215 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:51,840 Speaker 1: eight weeks in a row. What he says to the 1216 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 1: let's go one and oh, concentrate on one game. And 1217 00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,040 Speaker 1: I still believe that this is a game that we 1218 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 1: used to talk about in terms of on any given Sunday, 1219 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 1: On any given Sunday, a team can any team can 1220 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 1: beat any other team. And that's only expanded into in 1221 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 1: any given Sunday, Monday, Thursday, and late in the season Saturday. 1222 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely Merrill thanks so much for the time. We look 1223 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 1: forward to seeing you here in Houston. Thanks Mark the 1224 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 1: Venra Ball, Merrill Reese, there's a time in Philadelphia? Is 1225 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 1: Merrill Reese with the Eagles? Harry Callis with the Phillies. 1226 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,880 Speaker 1: You talking about legendary voices that Todd Callis's father, Todd Callis, 1227 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 1: who calls games for the Houston Astros on TV. Great, 1228 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,400 Speaker 1: great pipes, great voice, is a tremendous job. His dad, 1229 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 1: Harry Callis, is another legendary voice. But man, for a 1230 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,480 Speaker 1: long time he was Merrill Reese and Harry Callis in Philadelphia. 1231 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,960 Speaker 1: Who what voices those were? All? Right? Coming up next, 1232 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 1: it's Troy Hairston, rookie from Central Michigan. Former co Defensive 1233 01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Player of the Year in the MAC the last couple 1234 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,680 Speaker 1: of years. He's not playing offense, and he sat down 1235 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 1: to do a little deep slant with Deep City. That's 1236 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:06,920 Speaker 1: next to Texans All Access to Wednesday Texas All Access 1237 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,400 Speaker 1: coming at you. I'm your host, John Harris Football. I 1238 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 1: know a sideline reporter. It's also a battle Red battle 1239 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 1: Red Thursday Night Eve game tomorrow. Let's come me on Amazon, 1240 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,240 Speaker 1: but you can see it on my twenty obviously you 1241 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 1: can get it live on Sports Trade six ten, Mark 1242 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 1: Andre and myself calling the game. You have the pregame 1243 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,600 Speaker 1: with Seawan and Seth and then afterwards you'll have Sean 1244 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 1: and Clint Stern on a post game. So should be 1245 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 1: it should be an interesting night all around. And looking 1246 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:38,440 Speaker 1: forward to this gentleman playing and that would be Troy Harriston. 1247 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:45,560 Speaker 1: Troy Harriston fullback, Troy Harriston co MAC Defensive Player of 1248 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,920 Speaker 1: the Year. Wait a second edge rusher, Yeah, ed rusher 1249 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 1: turned fullback and it's worked out splendidly for this offense 1250 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 1: when thirty four is in the game. Well, Deep City 1251 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,440 Speaker 1: sat down for a Deep sunt interview the week with 1252 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 1: the rookie from Central Michigan Deep It's a Deep sign 1253 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 1: one one presented by Xfinity. My guests this week fullback 1254 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 1: Troy Hairston and Troy. I don't know if you know this, 1255 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 1: but a lot of the players get asked who has 1256 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,240 Speaker 1: the best hair on the team in another segment that 1257 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,400 Speaker 1: we do, and everyone has picked you so far. Really, 1258 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know if you knew that, but I felt 1259 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 1: like that was something that you could appreciate. No, I 1260 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,439 Speaker 1: definitely appreciate that was the last person I thought would 1261 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 1: you picked. So is there a lot of time that 1262 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,919 Speaker 1: goes into your haircare routine? Not a bunch, not a bunch. 1263 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,680 Speaker 1: It's as a pretty simplest and a ponytailer. I let 1264 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 1: it down. I always let it down for games. So yes, 1265 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 1: you do nothing too crazy though, just normal. We were 1266 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,560 Speaker 1: googling your pictures at Central Michigan because there's a lot 1267 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 1: of as you know, a lot of Chippawas around here. 1268 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 1: Tyler Marcott, our videographer producer extraordinariy, he wanted to do 1269 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 1: this whole interview with you and I would not let 1270 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 1: him because this is my interview. But we were talking 1271 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 1: about you at Central Michigan. You were He said you 1272 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,959 Speaker 1: were a Chippewa legend, which you were because you first 1273 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 1: team All Mac as a defensive end and then Cole 1274 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,600 Speaker 1: Mac Defensive Player of the Year. Now you come in, 1275 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 1: you're fullback and you're dominating at fullback. So how have 1276 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,960 Speaker 1: you been able to make that transition look so easy? Well, 1277 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say legend. I just got out. So the 1278 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,840 Speaker 1: Chip was call you their legends, So I appreciate that. 1279 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm flattered, but it's just doing what I know how 1280 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 1: to do best, and that's just grind and work hard, 1281 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 1: and I guess play for someone other than myself, you know, 1282 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 1: I know the game of football is bigger than one person, 1283 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,680 Speaker 1: so I just take that mindset to everything I do 1284 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:29,760 Speaker 1: and it just kind of worked out for me. So 1285 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,840 Speaker 1: transitioning from offense to defense, I mean, was that a 1286 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 1: hard transition for you to make defense to offense or sorry, 1287 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 1: defense offense. Yes, yeah, it's definitely a hard transition. It's 1288 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 1: a different world. Even everything down from the play calling 1289 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,120 Speaker 1: is different. I responsibility, keys, all that stuff, So it's 1290 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 1: it's a it's a totally new world and it took 1291 01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,520 Speaker 1: a lot of studying and a lot of films watching 1292 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,800 Speaker 1: film to kind of get it down. I'm still learning, 1293 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 1: all right. Yeah, you've done a lot of blocking, a 1294 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,200 Speaker 1: lot of tackling. So which one's more fun? Which one 1295 01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:03,480 Speaker 1: do you enjoy more? Honestly, I'm miss defense, but tackling 1296 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,040 Speaker 1: is more fun. Tackling is fun. Yeah, Tackling is fun 1297 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,640 Speaker 1: because that's what I've done most of my life. But 1298 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,200 Speaker 1: it's also just as fun to block. For Damian Pierce, 1299 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,560 Speaker 1: So I'm glad you brought up Damian Pierce. Because you've 1300 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,680 Speaker 1: always just talked about him with so much joy, and 1301 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 1: he talks about you the same way. You guys have 1302 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,480 Speaker 1: a really nice friendship that I think you and I 1303 01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,440 Speaker 1: were talking about in the locker room one day. You 1304 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 1: said it started off in rookie mini camp, just the 1305 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,080 Speaker 1: two of you, the two of you learning this offense, 1306 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,920 Speaker 1: being the only rookies in that room. Yeah. We So 1307 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:37,080 Speaker 1: I had started here as a linebacker and Damien was 1308 01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,000 Speaker 1: by himself in that room during training camp, and everybody 1309 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 1: knows training camp as a grind. So when I have 1310 01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,120 Speaker 1: finally transition, he had came up to me, and I 1311 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 1: haven't talked to DP at that time a lot. He 1312 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,440 Speaker 1: came up to me. He's like, I'm so glad you 1313 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:50,960 Speaker 1: in this room with me because now we can do 1314 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 1: this together. And so ever since then, we hit it off. 1315 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 1: We work hard, we talked to each other, we communicate, 1316 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 1: will we got chemistry back there is as every since 1317 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 1: ste has been click right right away, so and use 1318 01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,000 Speaker 1: and he says that when you're blocking from you always 1319 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 1: he always you always check with him afterwards like how 1320 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 1: is that? How was that for you? Every play? Yeah? 1321 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 1: And I think he I think sometimes I feel like 1322 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 1: I can get annoying about it, but it's like for me, 1323 01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:21,880 Speaker 1: like whatever I gotta do to propel him to where 1324 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,680 Speaker 1: he needs to be or do what he need to 1325 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 1: do and do what he do best and run that 1326 01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,000 Speaker 1: ball the way he do. I try to perfect it. 1327 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,760 Speaker 1: So after every play that we run in the game, 1328 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:32,840 Speaker 1: after every play we run into practice, what'd you see? 1329 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,160 Speaker 1: How does this look? Do you want me to stem 1330 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 1: this way? Do you want me to give more of 1331 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 1: an inside look? How does it look? So I just 1332 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 1: try to get his perspective so I know what I'm 1333 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,000 Speaker 1: doing next time I go out in block firm. So 1334 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,360 Speaker 1: we saw you catch a few passes as well, So 1335 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 1: what was that like for you to get involved in 1336 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 1: the offense in a little bit of a different way? Um, 1337 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 1: it's cool. I mean I'm used to mostly playing without 1338 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 1: the ball, so Pep always says like, you gotta learn 1339 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 1: how to play without the ball to be able to 1340 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,919 Speaker 1: get a shot, to get to get the bass. So yeah, 1341 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,320 Speaker 1: just is this something that I do to help my team? 1342 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I know a lot of 1343 01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,680 Speaker 1: defenses aren't expecting it, So yeah, I think Pep. Pep 1344 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,400 Speaker 1: is the one that said we don't talk about you enough. 1345 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 1: I think he called you a ball of butcher knives, 1346 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,800 Speaker 1: a rolling ball of butcher knives, or something like along 1347 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,040 Speaker 1: those lines, and I thought that was really funny. But 1348 01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,200 Speaker 1: what does that mean to you? To know that the 1349 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,240 Speaker 1: coaches are looking at what you're doing and they see 1350 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:24,760 Speaker 1: so much value even if you don't have the ball 1351 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,200 Speaker 1: in your hands, and what you're able to do. I 1352 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,760 Speaker 1: think it's important that that I know that the coaches 1353 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 1: trust me and that they're they're counting on me, And 1354 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,320 Speaker 1: that's all I want, Like, I want to be able 1355 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:35,919 Speaker 1: to people to be able to trust me and count 1356 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,760 Speaker 1: on me and know that when it when it comes 1357 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 1: down to it, I'm gonna make the plays I need 1358 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:41,320 Speaker 1: to make or make the blocks I need to make. 1359 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,000 Speaker 1: So I love that your story at Central Michigan started 1360 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,800 Speaker 1: off with you as an equipment manager. Yeah, how much 1361 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 1: has that really shaped too you are as a player. 1362 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 1: It seems like you're so unselfish off the field, but 1363 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,560 Speaker 1: you have a chance sort of watch the game from 1364 01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,720 Speaker 1: from a distance and then get involved in it. I mean, 1365 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 1: how has that just sort of molded your your view 1366 01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,360 Speaker 1: on getting to play in the NFL. Now I'm big believer, 1367 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,040 Speaker 1: and everything happened for a reason. I think that that 1368 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,120 Speaker 1: gave me some type of appreciation for the game on 1369 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:12,040 Speaker 1: the level after high school. It showed me, like, I guess, like, 1370 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 1: you're not bigger than anyone, because I started off as 1371 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,880 Speaker 1: an equipment manager. Like anybody, it doesn't matter who you 1372 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,040 Speaker 1: don't know where people can end up. So it just 1373 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 1: showed me like to stay humble and keep your head 1374 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 1: down on grind and anybody can can do whatever they 1375 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 1: put their mind to as long as they work hard 1376 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,400 Speaker 1: enough at it. So you're undrafted, you're a linebacker. Now 1377 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 1: you're a fullback. You're a really important part of this offense. 1378 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:36,760 Speaker 1: I read a story that you were living in a 1379 01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,960 Speaker 1: townhouse with your dad. Are you still living with your dad? 1380 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:44,360 Speaker 1: How's that going? Still okay? Are still roomies? And that 1381 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,520 Speaker 1: you had not very much furniture. You're kind of, you know, 1382 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,560 Speaker 1: like sort of saving your money or I don't know 1383 01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,200 Speaker 1: what you would call it. Is that being minimal Is 1384 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,880 Speaker 1: that being frugal? What is that? I guess it's a 1385 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 1: kind of a minimalist idea. But at the time, you know, 1386 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,200 Speaker 1: as undrafted, you don't get that big signing bonus, so 1387 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,880 Speaker 1: you know, for me, it was like more of like 1388 01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,640 Speaker 1: whatever I needed in the house, which was a mattress 1389 01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 1: and a TV and Wi Fi. So okay, whatever that was, 1390 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,520 Speaker 1: that's what I got, and I just that's all I 1391 01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:13,880 Speaker 1: needed because most of the time I was going to 1392 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:15,840 Speaker 1: be here anyway. You're not really at home much anyway, 1393 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,040 Speaker 1: especially during the season. How does having your dad help 1394 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:22,040 Speaker 1: you out? Does he watch film? Does he like coach 1395 01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:23,679 Speaker 1: you up? Or will you go home? Do you guys 1396 01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,880 Speaker 1: have conversations, you do dinner, We we do, We do talk. 1397 01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 1: But sometimes I got to remind him as a different level, 1398 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,040 Speaker 1: so like he'll be like, what what do you think 1399 01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,519 Speaker 1: about this? Not give him my insight or whatever. He 1400 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,240 Speaker 1: will watch some plays over and stuff like that. But 1401 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,719 Speaker 1: most most of the time, honestly, when we talk about 1402 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,679 Speaker 1: football is because he's playing me and DP and Madden. 1403 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,080 Speaker 1: Oh is that right? Yeah? Yeah, And that's surreal. That's 1404 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,000 Speaker 1: crazy to me. So to see yourself in mad literally 1405 01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,160 Speaker 1: Damien literally yeah, like me in front of Damien, Like 1406 01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,800 Speaker 1: that's crazy. All right, So what's the new furniture that 1407 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,280 Speaker 1: you've got to have? You added anything else besides the mattress? 1408 01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:00,519 Speaker 1: I got a ping pong table, in a living room. Okay, 1409 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,120 Speaker 1: I'll make you better in the locker room a little bit. 1410 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,479 Speaker 1: I've played a couple of times. So okay, I got 1411 01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:10,880 Speaker 1: a sectional for for a decent price, TV stand, another TV, 1412 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,000 Speaker 1: just necessities. I got a bed frame now, so no 1413 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,720 Speaker 1: longer mattress on the floor. Yeah. So my dad brought 1414 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,880 Speaker 1: my PC and I got a little desk and you're 1415 01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:21,840 Speaker 1: all set up. Yeah all right, So now you're all 1416 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,640 Speaker 1: set up in Houston. I know you haven't had a 1417 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,800 Speaker 1: lot of free time, but like for fans that are listening, 1418 01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,920 Speaker 1: what do you like to do when you're not playing football, 1419 01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,599 Speaker 1: when you're not at home? Honestly, I've gotten a couple 1420 01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:35,000 Speaker 1: of chances to do it. But the museums around here, yeah, 1421 01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,519 Speaker 1: it's real nice. I missed out on the Um. I 1422 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,559 Speaker 1: went to the Natural History Museum. Okay, I missed out 1423 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,519 Speaker 1: on the Egyptian exhibit. Okay, so I have to go 1424 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,720 Speaker 1: back and go see that. Okay, I've been told it's 1425 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,599 Speaker 1: pretty good. It's pretty good. Okay, I haven't seen it myself. Yeah, 1426 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,920 Speaker 1: I know. There was a NASA exhibit that was sort 1427 01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:53,800 Speaker 1: of traveling. It was at Rice for a little while. 1428 01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,760 Speaker 1: NASA obviously you can check out your museum. Guy, what 1429 01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 1: have you thought about Houston coming from Michigan to Houston. 1430 01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:05,000 Speaker 1: It's different, It's definitely different. Houston's huge. Like I have, 1431 01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:10,360 Speaker 1: like really discovered very small portion of Houston. I'm only 1432 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:14,080 Speaker 1: familiar with around nurg and around the Rice Village area. 1433 01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,200 Speaker 1: But I'm hoping to branch out when we really get 1434 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,080 Speaker 1: some time so see some more stuff. And I know 1435 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot I'll here to do, so all right, 1436 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:23,960 Speaker 1: I mean, if you need any suggestions, I would just 1437 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,800 Speaker 1: go on Twitter and ask fans because people have lots 1438 01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,680 Speaker 1: of opinions. There's lots to do in Houston poles now, 1439 01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:31,760 Speaker 1: so you can do polls and you'll get a lot 1440 01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,560 Speaker 1: of feedback. Try It's been a pleasure to get to 1441 01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:34,880 Speaker 1: know you a little bit better. Best elect for the 1442 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,880 Speaker 1: rest of season. Thank you. He sounds like a sweet guy, huh. 1443 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:42,519 Speaker 1: I mean just nice, very cordial. Love his voice. But 1444 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,479 Speaker 1: on the field, that dude is a hammer. He is 1445 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,559 Speaker 1: bringing the funk when he comes and hits people. Man, 1446 01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:51,040 Speaker 1: it is nice nice to watch. Also nice a little 1447 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,240 Speaker 1: double dip on our final segment, we always have Drew 1448 01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,640 Speaker 1: Doherty's final word on a Friday, the last segment of 1449 01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,360 Speaker 1: All Access before our game. But we also have to 1450 01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,360 Speaker 1: have our enemy Sidelines piece, which we usually have Friday. 1451 01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,639 Speaker 1: We got to get that in because well, we want 1452 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,360 Speaker 1: to know what's going on for this game. So let's 1453 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,800 Speaker 1: hear from Dave Zangarow who covers the Eagles and treymont 1454 01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:11,840 Speaker 1: Smith doing the final word of Jew Dorry. That's next 1455 01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:15,560 Speaker 1: on Texans A Access. We got one fall segment this 1456 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,640 Speaker 1: edition of Texans All Access. We got a lot to 1457 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,400 Speaker 1: do in it because we typically have Jew Dorty's final word. 1458 01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,719 Speaker 1: We also have to get in our Behind Enemy Sidelines 1459 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,000 Speaker 1: because we play Thursday, so behind Enemy Sidelines are gonna 1460 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:27,880 Speaker 1: do any good on Friday, we have to have it 1461 01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,320 Speaker 1: on Wednesday before Thursday game. So we're gonna kick off 1462 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,720 Speaker 1: this segment with Dave Zangara, who used to cover the 1463 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,600 Speaker 1: Texans back when csaid Houston was a thing. Then he 1464 01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,479 Speaker 1: moved back home to Phillies be covered the Eagles. Does 1465 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,040 Speaker 1: a great job at dpcity went Behind Enemy Sidelines with 1466 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:44,200 Speaker 1: Dave Zangaro, our buddy talking Eagles. We're going behind Enemy 1467 01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,880 Speaker 1: Sidelines this week. I'm catching up with Dave Zangarow. He 1468 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:51,120 Speaker 1: covers the Eagles for NBCP Sports Philadelphia. Dave used to 1469 01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:55,040 Speaker 1: cover the Texans a long, long time ago, and now 1470 01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,679 Speaker 1: we meet again, except for on opposing sidelines. Dave, how's 1471 01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,600 Speaker 1: it going. I'm doing well. How are he? It was 1472 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,800 Speaker 1: a long time ago, right, I mean twenty twelve to fourteen. 1473 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,320 Speaker 1: I was there, Yeah, I think right when I started 1474 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,240 Speaker 1: in thirteen. You were here for the first two years 1475 01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:11,800 Speaker 1: with CSN. Yeahs a short lived CSN Houston days. Yeah, 1476 01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,400 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of talented people left when 1477 01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,360 Speaker 1: that shot down. But I'm glad to see you still 1478 01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:18,479 Speaker 1: out there covering the Eagles, and we get to catch 1479 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,479 Speaker 1: up every every few years. So let's talk about this 1480 01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,479 Speaker 1: Eagles team, the only undefeated team remaining in the NFL. 1481 01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,360 Speaker 1: When you were covering this team back in training camp, 1482 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:28,840 Speaker 1: if I would have said to you at this point 1483 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,200 Speaker 1: in the season that they were undefeated, what would you 1484 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,640 Speaker 1: have been? Surprised? Yeah, surprised that they hadn't found a 1485 01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,360 Speaker 1: loss yet, but not surprised that they were good because 1486 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,320 Speaker 1: we knew that this roster was very good. You looked 1487 01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,120 Speaker 1: at the roster on paper and you thought, Okay, this 1488 01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,880 Speaker 1: is a team that probably should win the division, should 1489 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,360 Speaker 1: be able to get into the playoffs and maybe make 1490 01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,800 Speaker 1: a run. But they've been even better than I thought 1491 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,639 Speaker 1: they'd be, and a big reason for that is Jalen Hurts. 1492 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,920 Speaker 1: Houston's Jalen Hurts. He's been performing so well this year. 1493 01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:02,360 Speaker 1: He's really taken a bit step in year two. Really 1494 01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,040 Speaker 1: for him, it's year two as a starter. So yeah, 1495 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,559 Speaker 1: the step that he's take and it helps obviously having 1496 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,120 Speaker 1: a j. Brown as a true number one receiver. But 1497 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,599 Speaker 1: a big reason for their success this year has been 1498 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback. You know, when you just look at his 1499 01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,720 Speaker 1: stats through this year, just even coming off of Sunday's game, 1500 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:23,839 Speaker 1: career high four touchdown passes, but touchdown to interception ratio 1501 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,759 Speaker 1: has been really good for him this year. What's impressed 1502 01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,120 Speaker 1: you the most about him here in year three? I mean, 1503 01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,000 Speaker 1: I feel like it wasn't that long ago that there 1504 01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,840 Speaker 1: were questions surrounding whether or not he was the guy. 1505 01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:37,240 Speaker 1: But what's really stood out to you about him this year? Yeah, 1506 01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,799 Speaker 1: it was the question before this year. It was because 1507 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, he's in his third year in the NFL, 1508 01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,760 Speaker 1: so you have the opportunity to sign him to an 1509 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:48,240 Speaker 1: extension after the season, and it's pretty rare for quarterbacks 1510 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,439 Speaker 1: to go into that lame duck year, so you're thinking 1511 01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 1: he's got to really prove himself. And we're seven games in, 1512 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,599 Speaker 1: it's like there's no question anymore. He's the guy. As 1513 01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:00,240 Speaker 1: far as the touchdown interception thing, what's impressed me most 1514 01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,320 Speaker 1: is that when you see a guy who doesn't have 1515 01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,439 Speaker 1: a lot of interceptions, you would assume that he's not 1516 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:09,000 Speaker 1: taking chances and that he's playing it really safe. And 1517 01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:10,840 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a good way to play football either. 1518 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,760 Speaker 1: You want to avoid turnovers, but you don't want to 1519 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,880 Speaker 1: lose that aggressiveness. The impressive thing about him is that 1520 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,880 Speaker 1: he has been aggressive. They are throwing it down the 1521 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,160 Speaker 1: field quite a bit, and he's taking some chances, but 1522 01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,160 Speaker 1: he's also being smart and he's not taking on necessary ones. 1523 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:31,440 Speaker 1: He's not taking the chances that would turn into turnovers. 1524 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,320 Speaker 1: He hasn't fumbled either, which is a really big deal 1525 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,960 Speaker 1: for a guy who runs as much as he does. 1526 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 1: So to me, it's more than just the passing, touchdowns interceptions. 1527 01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:44,800 Speaker 1: It's total touchdowns to takeaways or turnovers. He hasn't turned 1528 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:48,599 Speaker 1: the football over. It's been just really efficient but at 1529 01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:52,479 Speaker 1: times explosive quarterback play all right. Obviously you mentioned A J. Brown. 1530 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,640 Speaker 1: He's like the big addition to that offense, you know, 1531 01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,080 Speaker 1: and we saw what he did on Sunday, three touchdowns 1532 01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,880 Speaker 1: all before halftime. Chemistry between the two of them. How 1533 01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,080 Speaker 1: surprising has it been And was there a point where 1534 01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,240 Speaker 1: you thought, okay, this is this is looking really good 1535 01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,559 Speaker 1: or was it like that from day one? It's really cool. Actually, 1536 01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,920 Speaker 1: those two have been really really close friends for a while. 1537 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,080 Speaker 1: They call each other best friends, and they've you know, 1538 01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:21,439 Speaker 1: they've always worked out together in the offseason, but you 1539 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,280 Speaker 1: never really know, you know it. They were still in 1540 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:27,160 Speaker 1: training camp trying to figure out how to build that 1541 01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,799 Speaker 1: together and all those timing things. But it came together 1542 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,719 Speaker 1: pretty quickly. I mean in training camp it was pretty 1543 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:39,920 Speaker 1: evident that they figured this out, and Jalen really trusts him. 1544 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,839 Speaker 1: You can see that a couple of those passes on Sunday, 1545 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:48,200 Speaker 1: A J. Brown wasn't open, but Jalen trusted him. They 1546 01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,639 Speaker 1: go up and get the football. A J. Brown has 1547 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,559 Speaker 1: one of those like convenience store hang signs and his locker, 1548 01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,760 Speaker 1: like right above his locker says always open, and John 1549 01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:02,639 Speaker 1: Jalen believes he'll throw it up to him, and even 1550 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,799 Speaker 1: beyond that, I mean, the AJ Brown slant has become 1551 01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:10,680 Speaker 1: a cheat code for this offense. It's pretty much always there. 1552 01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,080 Speaker 1: He has such a big body that if you put 1553 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,160 Speaker 1: it on him and you give him an opportunity to 1554 01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 1: guess some yards after the catch, he's going to do it. 1555 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,479 Speaker 1: And Miles Sanders, I guess you can't really neglect talking 1556 01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,599 Speaker 1: about him because a run game rings seventh and rushing 1557 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,599 Speaker 1: yards with him. How has he really emerged this season 1558 01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,920 Speaker 1: for that Eagles offense. He's been good and look he has. 1559 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,200 Speaker 1: He's had kind of a weird career because a lot 1560 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,040 Speaker 1: of injuries. He's missed nine games over the last two years. 1561 01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,559 Speaker 1: So the thing he really needed to prove this year 1562 01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:40,680 Speaker 1: was he can stay healthy, and he's done that through 1563 01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,840 Speaker 1: seven games. We'll see if that continues. But he's picking 1564 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,240 Speaker 1: up yards and big chunks. He's improved as a runner 1565 01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,160 Speaker 1: since I saw him as a rookie a few years ago. 1566 01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:53,200 Speaker 1: He's gotten more patient. He's understood just to take the 1567 01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:55,639 Speaker 1: yards that are there. He used to try to bounce everything, 1568 01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,280 Speaker 1: and you can do that in college a little bit, 1569 01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:00,280 Speaker 1: but sometimes guys get rude awakenings when they get to 1570 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,840 Speaker 1: the NFL and you're not able to just how run 1571 01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,360 Speaker 1: everyone anymore. These guys are really good at this level 1572 01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,360 Speaker 1: and he's learned that. And that offensive line the Eagles 1573 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,920 Speaker 1: have as good as Jalen Hurts has been, as good 1574 01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,759 Speaker 1: as A. J. Brown has been, Miles Sanders and DeVante Smith. 1575 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,040 Speaker 1: That offensive line is still the star of the show. 1576 01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:23,880 Speaker 1: It's probably the best in the league. And they don't 1577 01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,160 Speaker 1: do any of this without them, and they know that. 1578 01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:30,519 Speaker 1: I mean, they have really from all five spots. They're 1579 01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:35,960 Speaker 1: getting really solid play. Jason Kelsey's thirty four, but he's 1580 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,320 Speaker 1: still arguably the best center in the league. They had 1581 01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:41,519 Speaker 1: the best right tackle in the NFL, and Lane Johnson 1582 01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,080 Speaker 1: and everyone else, I mean, Lannon Dickerson, Jordan my Lot 1583 01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:46,320 Speaker 1: and I as you could say Moll who had been 1584 01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,320 Speaker 1: very good too. So I mean that unit is playing 1585 01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:51,799 Speaker 1: really well right now. It's a huge key to their success. 1586 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:55,200 Speaker 1: I gotta mention the Eagles defense. They are plus fourteen 1587 01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,719 Speaker 1: in turnover differential. I mean, that is an insane number, 1588 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,200 Speaker 1: especially at this point in the season. They've got sixteen 1589 01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,479 Speaker 1: takeaways on the year. What's made them so effective at 1590 01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,439 Speaker 1: taking the ball away? Yeah, takeaways can be tricky. Because 1591 01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,720 Speaker 1: they're a little fickle. I don't know if you can 1592 01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:14,320 Speaker 1: count on that rate of production all year. Sometimes they 1593 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:18,120 Speaker 1: come and go, but they're opportunistic and they have it's 1594 01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,320 Speaker 1: a good combination to have a pass for us they 1595 01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,920 Speaker 1: can affect the quarterback, and then a secondary that has 1596 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,519 Speaker 1: some ballhawks they can take it away. And that's what 1597 01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:30,000 Speaker 1: we've seen. The front is good enough to get after quarterbacks, 1598 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,280 Speaker 1: and even when they're not getting sacks, they've done at 1599 01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,000 Speaker 1: that much higher rate this year. They are affecting them 1600 01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:38,200 Speaker 1: and they're forcing them into some bad throws. Then on 1601 01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,360 Speaker 1: the back end you have guys like Darius Slay and 1602 01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:44,479 Speaker 1: James Bradbury and Vante Maddox and CJ. Gardner Johnson all 1603 01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:48,240 Speaker 1: ready to pick off passes. It's working the way it 1604 01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:52,519 Speaker 1: was designed to work right now, and that's been very encouraging. 1605 01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:57,000 Speaker 1: Last year, their defense was they were trying to live 1606 01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,559 Speaker 1: by the phiosophy to not get beat by big plays, 1607 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,400 Speaker 1: and they did that. The problem was they weren't getting 1608 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,400 Speaker 1: the takeaways and it really just led to these long, 1609 01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:10,640 Speaker 1: backbreaking drives that left them on the field forever. They 1610 01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,479 Speaker 1: got worn down against some really great quarterbacks last year. 1611 01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,439 Speaker 1: They haven't faced great quarterbacks this year, but this season 1612 01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:20,000 Speaker 1: the differences. They're finally getting stops, they're finally getting turnovers, 1613 01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,160 Speaker 1: and they've been a much improved unit. Dave, I guess 1614 01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,320 Speaker 1: I have to mention that there was a World Series 1615 01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,800 Speaker 1: game going on at the exact same time as our game, 1616 01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,160 Speaker 1: so these two markets are both in a bit of 1617 01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,760 Speaker 1: a buyd Phillies fans, Astros fans, Eagles fans, Texas fans. Well, 1618 01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:36,839 Speaker 1: what are people in Philly saying about the rain delayed 1619 01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,960 Speaker 1: cancelation that has now got two big games and these 1620 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:43,120 Speaker 1: two markets going up against each other head to head. Yeah, 1621 01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it was a shame to see that game 1622 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,920 Speaker 1: get postponed, but what are you gonna do? Rain happens. 1623 01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,400 Speaker 1: It'll be fun to have both games going on at 1624 01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,760 Speaker 1: the same time. I'm sure you know the updates will 1625 01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,639 Speaker 1: come through at NRG Stadium and we'll hear cheers one way, 1626 01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,040 Speaker 1: or it'll be confusing for the players. I'm sure, Like, 1627 01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,840 Speaker 1: who are they cheer? You're in a TV time out 1628 01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,360 Speaker 1: and the crowd starts cheering because the Astros for a 1629 01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,960 Speaker 1: runner or something. Yeah, it's I know there were some 1630 01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,080 Speaker 1: people who were a little bummed from Philly who were 1631 01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:13,400 Speaker 1: planning on going out for the football game and then 1632 01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:17,360 Speaker 1: staying potentially because the baseball game would have been the 1633 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,840 Speaker 1: next day. But now that's so it's screwing up some 1634 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,800 Speaker 1: plans for people. But it is kind of cool to 1635 01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:26,760 Speaker 1: have both cities worried about two sports right now. It's 1636 01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:28,479 Speaker 1: weird for me too because I have so many friends 1637 01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:32,000 Speaker 1: back in Houston and it's been fun this week for sure. Yeah, 1638 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,439 Speaker 1: it's it's been a crazy week, so I don't think 1639 01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:36,040 Speaker 1: anyone thought it was going to line up the way 1640 01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,000 Speaker 1: that it did. But here we are. Dave appreciate the time. 1641 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:42,880 Speaker 1: He's Dave Zangaro. He covers the Eagles for NBC Sports Philadelphia. Dave, 1642 01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,559 Speaker 1: always a pleasure catching up with you. You too, Thanks, 1643 01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,439 Speaker 1: and of course you know, we gotta finish this show 1644 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:52,439 Speaker 1: with Drew Doherty's final word. Drew set down with Traymon 1645 01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,519 Speaker 1: and Smith talked about this matchup with Philadelphia. Thanks so much. 1646 01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,200 Speaker 1: It's time to break down the game to come. We're 1647 01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,280 Speaker 1: gonna do so with defensive back and one of the 1648 01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,240 Speaker 1: best special teamers in Texans history. It's Tremont Smith. Triman, 1649 01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,679 Speaker 1: good to be with you. Let's talk about your welcome. 1650 01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,759 Speaker 1: Let's talk about where this team is headed, the mind frame, 1651 01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,080 Speaker 1: all that stuff. Tough game on Sunday, but you gotta 1652 01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:12,880 Speaker 1: flip around and get ready for Thursday night. Or how 1653 01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:14,960 Speaker 1: how nice is that that you get to flush things 1654 01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:17,000 Speaker 1: like you do? It was good, you know either, you know, 1655 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,960 Speaker 1: coming off that lost division lost one we should have 1656 01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,559 Speaker 1: won and had the ability to win. We just got 1657 01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:24,519 Speaker 1: to start off faster and just do the little things, 1658 01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:28,360 Speaker 1: you know, let's penalties, convert on turnovers, converting the raison, 1659 01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,000 Speaker 1: just a little stuff like that. So once we get 1660 01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:31,320 Speaker 1: that role and we would be good. You know, it's 1661 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,400 Speaker 1: the only way we can't go is up since we 1662 01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:35,920 Speaker 1: just lost. So I'm excited about that. You know, y'all 1663 01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:38,280 Speaker 1: often hear the phrase things are never as bad as 1664 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:39,720 Speaker 1: they see them, and they're never really as good as 1665 01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:41,519 Speaker 1: they seem either. So with all that in mind, and 1666 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,000 Speaker 1: it's kind of a perfect thing to think about who's 1667 01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:45,479 Speaker 1: coming to town and what you guys just did. Right, 1668 01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,880 Speaker 1: it's pretty pretty accurate. Right, Once we watched the family 1669 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:49,920 Speaker 1: actually broke it down, Like you said, they didn't look 1670 01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,240 Speaker 1: as bad as we thought it was watching it come Sunday, 1671 01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,600 Speaker 1: But you know, we got a good upon the coming in. 1672 01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:56,800 Speaker 1: Of course, one of the best team in the NFL 1673 01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:58,600 Speaker 1: right now, if you go by ricords. So we just 1674 01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:00,599 Speaker 1: got to read our keys, you know, a little things. 1675 01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:04,040 Speaker 1: Don't penalize these ourselves and just wrap up, make tackles, 1676 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,080 Speaker 1: eliminate the big plays. You're a perfect guy to talk 1677 01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,080 Speaker 1: to you because you play defense. You play special teams. 1678 01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,200 Speaker 1: Let's start with the defensive side of things. This offensive 1679 01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,799 Speaker 1: attack that they have. Jalen Hurts, he's a special quarterback. 1680 01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 1: He does many different things very very well. What do 1681 01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,040 Speaker 1: you see. What's the challenge that presents itself when you 1682 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,080 Speaker 1: face a guy like Hurts. I think our disguises are 1683 01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,360 Speaker 1: going to be big for us. Stopping the run, play 1684 01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:27,120 Speaker 1: him in long management, I mean long, non manageable third downs, 1685 01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,080 Speaker 1: make them try to air it out. They got good 1686 01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:32,760 Speaker 1: receivers and Quaiz Walkings. Of course, the tas a j brown. 1687 01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:34,880 Speaker 1: But as long as we minimize them today big games 1688 01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:36,760 Speaker 1: and keep the D ball offer us, we'll be real 1689 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,960 Speaker 1: good and gaps sound in the run game. How trick 1690 01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:40,519 Speaker 1: he's that to prepare for a team like the for 1691 01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,280 Speaker 1: an offense like that that has You mentioned a few 1692 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,280 Speaker 1: of the receivers, but the running backs are, the tight 1693 01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,200 Speaker 1: ends are excellent. Offensive line fantastic. It's tough that. I mean, 1694 01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:48,720 Speaker 1: we all just got to be on our keys and 1695 01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:50,880 Speaker 1: just do all the little things right, just from being 1696 01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,000 Speaker 1: in our gaps, from making open field tackles because they're 1697 01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,400 Speaker 1: gonna have open plays eventually in the game throughout because 1698 01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:59,479 Speaker 1: and we just got to make those tackles in plays 1699 01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,040 Speaker 1: especial teams wise, you don't get to seven or oh 1700 01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,240 Speaker 1: if you're not doing things well there. What do you 1701 01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:08,120 Speaker 1: see from the Eagles? They got a great special teams coordinator, 1702 01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,439 Speaker 1: a great special team scheme. You know, they got a 1703 01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:13,000 Speaker 1: great kicker in Elliott. I played with them for a 1704 01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,000 Speaker 1: little bit, actually did an off season with them, so 1705 01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,559 Speaker 1: I'm pretty familiar with their system. But you know, they 1706 01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,519 Speaker 1: they're coached to play hard, be disciplined. So we just 1707 01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,040 Speaker 1: got to come out there. I'll physical them and I'll discipline. 1708 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,880 Speaker 1: It seems like every time there's a special team snap 1709 01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:29,280 Speaker 1: this year, you're either knocking the ball list or tackling 1710 01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,000 Speaker 1: the return or getting a return or really I say 1711 01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,000 Speaker 1: getting return. They're kind of scared to kick to you 1712 01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,640 Speaker 1: almost after they saw the touchdown last year. What's this year? 1713 01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,519 Speaker 1: Been like on special teams because despite the record, special 1714 01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,519 Speaker 1: teams has been excellent for the Texas. Yeah, we're just 1715 01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:43,200 Speaker 1: trying to be We're just trying to be a this 1716 01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,080 Speaker 1: spark for our team. You know, we've been out to 1717 01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,040 Speaker 1: a lot of slow starts, whether we start on defense 1718 01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,280 Speaker 1: or offense. So and you know, special teams always come 1719 01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:50,920 Speaker 1: first no matter how you start the game. So we 1720 01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,920 Speaker 1: pride ourselves into taking the field being the energy, being 1721 01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,679 Speaker 1: that energy spark for the team. And we take pride 1722 01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:58,640 Speaker 1: in that. All right, how much of a spark you 1723 01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:00,880 Speaker 1: think those battle red helm are gonna give you? Guys? Oh, 1724 01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:02,840 Speaker 1: I can't wait, and I'm taking my home right after 1725 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:04,519 Speaker 1: the game, taking your home after the game. You're gonna 1726 01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,000 Speaker 1: keep it all right, sold Darwin. I love that about 1727 01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:08,680 Speaker 1: a ray though. It's it's gonna be a great look. 1728 01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:10,320 Speaker 1: And I love the raate end zones as well. Yeah, 1729 01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:12,400 Speaker 1: those look cool, he says. He told Darwin that's, of 1730 01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,760 Speaker 1: course the guy who's running the equipment room, and it's 1731 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:15,960 Speaker 1: kind of a guy that runs it all if you 1732 01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,240 Speaker 1: if you think about it, well, trim On, we really 1733 01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,719 Speaker 1: appreciate the time. Thanks so much. Best of luck against 1734 01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:23,360 Speaker 1: the Eagles, So thanks for having me, and thank you Tremond, 1735 01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:25,760 Speaker 1: and thank you Drew, and thank you Dpe and thank 1736 01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,760 Speaker 1: you Dave saying Garl, thank you Troy Harriston, thank you Mark, 1737 01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:32,120 Speaker 1: thank you Lovey, thank you Nick, and hopefully we're saying 1738 01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:35,400 Speaker 1: thank you Texans. After a huge win against the Eagles 1739 01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,400 Speaker 1: on Thursday night, bat a red helmets. It's gonna be cool, 1740 01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,400 Speaker 1: red end zones. We're Houston. The end zone has never 1741 01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:44,240 Speaker 1: been there before. A lot of first and hopefully it'll 1742 01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:48,240 Speaker 1: be the first win at home at Energy Stadium this year. 1743 01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,920 Speaker 1: Would be great to see. Appreciate everybody. Thank you so 1744 01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:52,719 Speaker 1: much for listening. We'll see you next time and as always, 1745 01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:53,240 Speaker 1: go Texans.