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Speaker 2: Get about your seats. Come on, get about your seats.

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Speaker 2: It makes some noise for our father. Vice President Ms

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Speaker 2: Connell had.

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Speaker 3: Good evening. Good evening everyone, Charlomagne.

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Speaker 1: How are you here? We go again? Okay, we are here.

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Speaker 1: How many people have read the book? One hundred and

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Speaker 1: seven days?

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Speaker 2: Fantastic greed? Fantastic greed. What's what's the part of those

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Speaker 2: one hundred and seven days? You you still can't talk

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Speaker 2: about even now, cause there's two days missing from the book.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the eleven from the twelve of October.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's interesting. You counted in all seriousness. Probably the

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Speaker 3: most difficult, in fact, the most difficult chapter to write

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Speaker 3: was about election night. So the night before the election,

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Speaker 3: Doug and I and the kids and my grandnieces and

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Speaker 3: And so when I sat down and write that chapter,

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Speaker 1: Tell how did you get over that grief? I mean,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was well. Writing the book was part of

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't. It was actually in the car on

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Speaker 3: when I wrote in the speech that sometimes the fight

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Speaker 3: This is the nature of it. And after we left

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Speaker 3: we're all dealing with it, aren't we. I mean, how

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: Right? Right? You know? So we in many different ways,

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Speaker 3: we've all been processing it right. And I and part.

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Speaker 1: Of the reason I wrote, yes, you're still processing it.

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Speaker 3: No, but that's but part of but part of the reason,

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Speaker 3: I say joy? Dare I say joy? Right?

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Speaker 1: That? Because you don't?

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Speaker 3: But no, it's it was because of you.

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Speaker 1: That campaign was dead before you.

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Speaker 3: We have that light, right and we have to see

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Speaker 3: the sadness, the depression, all of that. But we cannot

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Speaker 2: Right, what's the biggest misconception about you that you stopped.

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Speaker 1: Trying to correct?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Tell me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's a lot of misconceptions.

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Speaker 2: Just because you know, and you've spoken about this, people

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Speaker 1: To know it for you at that time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think people are getting to know you more

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Speaker 1: You know why you was campaigning.

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Speaker 3: I think we definitely needed more time, There's no question

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Speaker 3: And I really had and ran on exactly that point.

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Speaker 3: But didn't you know the people in marketing say, you

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Speaker 3: An example was what I intended to do, which is

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Speaker 3: And that's just a reality of the challenges of this

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Speaker 1: Lord have mercy.

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Speaker 3: But the other point that must be made just for

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Speaker 3: the point of clarity for this person in the White House.

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Speaker 3: It was the closest presidential election in the twenty first session.

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Speaker 3: He does not have a mandate. He does not have

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Speaker 1: He keeps disputing that.

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Speaker 2: By the way, every time you say that, he says

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Speaker 2: that's not true. I don't know why he hell been.

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Speaker 3: On perpetuating lines. And I mean, it's a fact. It's

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Speaker 2: I want to stick to the money of it all,

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Speaker 2: you know, and we talk about this every time we're together.

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Speaker 2: But it's true, and I want people to understand this.

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Speaker 2: The economy does better when they're the Democrat in the

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Speaker 1: That's right, Like that is just that's right, a statistical fact.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I posit to you, the people, because as

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Speaker 2: How hard is it for you to not get on

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Speaker 2: That's why I think one hundred and seven days is

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Speaker 1: You know, crazy, right, y'all don't know she talked. She

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Speaker 3: I just know how to pronounce words correctly.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you have optimism. I have optimism as well.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I was looking at like, if they're

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Speaker 1: It's like, how do you have optimism when they're doing

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Speaker 3: It is The optimism is about knowing what we fight for.

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Speaker 3: The optimism is about we cannot afford to give up.

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Speaker 3: That is where I derive my optimism, knowing that is

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Speaker 3: of equality and fairness and justice and civil rights which

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Speaker 3: benefit everyone.

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Speaker 1: Lord have Merton. I don't want to fight that hard,

443
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Speaker 1: but I guess we ain't got no choke.

444
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: We have to. We have to. It is Listen, there

445
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: is nothing that you can take for granted if you

446
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: are not vigilant. And look, we're here for real talk. Look,

447
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 3: it may get worse before it gets better. Okay, it

448
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 3: may get worse before it gets better. And I hope

449
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 3: in these nine months, I pray that we have all

450
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: found a way to the extent necessary to heal, to revive,

451
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 3: to have a moment of rest, to have a moment

452
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: of reflection, and then to get back out there. Tomorrow

453
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 3: is no King's Day, right right, take it to the

454
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: streets and peaceful protests. The midterms are coming up. We

455
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Speaker 3: have elections. You know. People have asked me. I just

456
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 3: did an interview earlier and the report asked me, well,

457
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 3: do you what is your role? I said, well, I'm

458
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: a leader of the Democratic Party. I am a leader

459
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 3: and my intention. My intention is that we win. That

460
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Speaker 3: we win, and it's about election. It's about winning in

461
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: terms of fighting for the principles behind our constitution, the

462
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: integrity of our nation and our values. Like we have

463
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: to know we are winners and know that we fight

464
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 3: like winners because we know what we stand for, so

465
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: we know what to fight for. That's what this moment

466
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 3: is right now.

467
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Speaker 2: Are you going to take time to enjoy yourself on

468
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Speaker 2: your upcoming birthday?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, you know right about So if my birthday's

470
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: coming up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the dove knows that it's time, right and I

472
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: know it In the book you kind of forgot last year.

473
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I tell a story about I love my

474
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 3: husband so much. I love my husband so much. I

475
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 3: love my Tugie so much. But yeah, that was not

476
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: a good birthday.

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Speaker 1: You got trigger just now just thinking about it.

478
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Speaker 3: Okay, what happened was so what happened was this? So

479
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 3: my birthday is is is just days before the My

480
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: birthday is October twenty so so so thank you so so. Anyway,

481
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: we were, as you can imagine, knee need deep in

482
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 3: the campaign, and Doug and I, Doug, my husband and I,

483
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 3: we had basically, you know, like so many of our families,

484
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 3: we had you know, split up to everybody being somewhere

485
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: that we needed to be, and our teams had conspired

486
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 3: so lovingly that he and I would end up in

487
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 3: the same place the night of my birthday. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: you're gonna ask me, did Doug plan a dinner?

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Speaker 1: No? I read the book. I know he didn't.

490
00:32:54,760 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 3: He didn't. So then it came time for the birthday gift.

491
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: I opened the gift. I told you my birthday is

492
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Speaker 3: October twentieth. The gift was a necklace that it was engraved.

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00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: It was not October twentieth, it was the date of

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Speaker 3: our anniversary. Because Doug had clearly thought he was going

495
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Speaker 3: to get a two fur with that one gift.

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Speaker 1: Need you to do better this year? Doug.

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Speaker 3: Okay, fourthday hit and he was so and it was

498
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: it was leading up to the World Series, and so

499
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 3: we had had we had dinner and which I selected,

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Speaker 3: and we had a little cupcake and I blew out

501
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: the candle and I was done. And so I went

502
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: to go take a bath because actually during the camp

503
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: and I highly suggest it for anybody who has a

504
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: bathtub that it is a really wonderful way to distressed

505
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: at the end of the day. Yes, with epsom salt

506
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: with EBB some salt. Right, So I went to go

507
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 3: take a bath. Doug was watching the baseball game, and

508
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: then I realized in this hotel and they had it

509
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 3: was a nice little sweet they got us for that night,

510
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 3: and the towels were on the other side of the bathroom.

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Speaker 3: So of course I'm vice president running for president the

512
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Speaker 3: United States. So I had my phone next to the bathtub,

513
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 3: and but first I just called out to my husband,

514
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 3: dougie nothing. Then I went to Doug calling him out,

515
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 3: Doug nothing. And then it's real serious when I go Douglas.

516
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 3: So I picked up the phone to call him. He

517
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: didn't answer, so then I FaceTime audio him. Here's how

518
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 3: he answered, what's up? And that was it, and so

519
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 3: we got into it a little bit.

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00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: Rightfully.

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing about my husband and about that moment.

522
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: We all, in our relationships, in whatever form you have,

523
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 3: go through stressful moments and go through you know what

524
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: life brings. There are joy and there is also stress.

525
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: And my husband said to me at that moment, he

526
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 3: looked at me and he just poured cold water on

527
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 3: the heat of that moment, and he looked at me

528
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 3: and he said, we cannot turn on each other. And

529
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: it was so poignant. And you know, I tell a

530
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: few stories like that about just what this was because Charlemagne.

531
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 3: In many ways, I just wanted to write this book

532
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 3: to also just lift the hood on what happens behind

533
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 3: the scenes in every way. I think there's so much

534
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: about I mean, obviously the office of president is and

535
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: it affects the entire globe, but there's so much about

536
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 3: the process that's very opaque that people unless you've been

537
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 3: personally involved at a very close level, you don't really

538
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: have a sense of And I wanted to help people

539
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 3: have a sense of it in a way that I

540
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 3: hope helps people see where they could fit in or

541
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: be involved or a part of it, and feel a

542
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 3: sense of understanding what it all involves so that we

543
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 3: can all participate in an active way.

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Speaker 2: It feels like this is the first time that you

545
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: get to control your own narrative, because I feel like,

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00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: you know, even when you first ran for president back

547
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, from that time until now, it's people

548
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: that have been trying to control your narrative. They've been

549
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: trying to shape who Kamala Harris is to the people,

550
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 2: as opposed to Kamala Harris letting the people know who

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00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: she is.

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00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: Well, Look, there are all always when you put yourself

553
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: out there, and especially in this environment, be it just

554
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: for any of us, whether you have a public persona

555
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 3: or not, because of social media and so much else,

556
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 3: putting yourself out there in any way leads to invariably

557
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: that there will be people who misunderstand you on purpose

558
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 3: and even dislike you. And it is an awful feeling

559
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 3: to be misunderstood, much less dislike. But it's an awful

560
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: feeling to be misunderstood, and it is sadly, you know,

561
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 3: hopefully it is just a few. It is not everybody

562
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: but it is sadly an aspect of putting yourself out there.

563
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: And that's why I will always applaud anybody for putting

564
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 3: themselves out there for any reason, be it a job

565
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 3: or a promotion or applying for you know, school or

566
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: or or whatever. There is always going to be a

567
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: level of vulnerability associated with ambition. And I am in

568
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 3: that way no different than anybody who puts themselves out there.

569
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: That you are exposed to that and it is not

570
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 3: enjoyable and it can be painful.

571
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: But campaigns against.

572
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 3: You, well yeah, I mean look when I when I

573
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 3: from the big when I ran for Attorney general, the

574
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 3: National Republicans put this was before I sitting since United

575
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: when they put a million dollar hit piece against me

576
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: when I ran for Attorney general in twenty ten, and

577
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 3: I asked my campaign consultant what is going on? And

578
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 3: he said, look, their theory is, you know, kill the

579
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 3: baby in the crib. I am, yeah, But.

580
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: They don't believe in abortion, and we don't believe in killing.

581
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 3: Let's not go there, let's just not let's not do that.

582
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 3: But I do believe that it is important for one

583
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: to exercise their voice, and that's part of the reason

584
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 3: I wrote the book, which is, look this, these one

585
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 3: hundred and seven days are part of American history. It

586
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: is part of American history, and I wasn't about to

587
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 3: let history tell the story without my voice.

588
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: So if there's one truth in one hundred and seven

589
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 2: days that might make people uncomfortable, what do you think

590
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: it is.

591
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 3: Well, it depends on who you are, right, I don't.

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00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: I don't.

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00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 3: I think that there are a number of conversations that

594
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: we need to have right now that are difficult conversations

595
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 3: that will make people uncomfortable. But now is the time

596
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: to have those conversations in a way that is not

597
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 3: intended to be confrontational or you know, to bring attention

598
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 3: to oneself, but just literally we've got some deep work

599
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 3: to do as a country. We really do. There's among

600
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 3: the things that is I think weighing on us and

601
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 3: I and so many people are feeling on edge, is

602
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 3: you know, we've always had a fair amount of cynicism

603
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 3: based on you know, trust of the system and government, right,

604
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: but I think it was really highlighted by the pandemic

605
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 3: when the rug just got pulled out from so many people.

606
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 3: So there is that trust around the individual and the

607
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: government and systems. But what also we are experiencing right

608
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: now that I think is so it's weighing us down,

609
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: is the high level of distrust between the American people.

610
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: And I don't mean just cannot leave my door unlocked,

611
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: I mean can I trust you to not be a

612
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: threat to my very existence? Right? And that's that's a

613
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 3: real issue right now for us as a country. And

614
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 3: this is where again I say the power is with

615
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 3: the people, because it is also about what we do

616
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 3: in our daily lives in the context of of whatever

617
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: our world is, our neighbors, our friends, our relatives, are coworkers.

618
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: But to really work on these conversations and also to

619
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 3: understand that not everybody is working with the same information,

620
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 3: and we should not assume that we know someone else's

621
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 3: morals or principles or values on the assumption that we're

622
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 3: working with the same information. And that gets back to

623
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 3: the point of the rampant amount of miss and disinformation.

624
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 3: And part of the antidote to that is really working

625
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 3: on developing community and developing those relationships of trust, and

626
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 3: that requires work. Relationships and trust require work. We know

627
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 3: that we know that in our personal lives and our

628
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 3: professional lives and right now we need to do a

629
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 3: lot of work as a country on that.

630
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Speaker 1: Do you think the media ever truly wanted to understand you?

631
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 3: Yes? I do think they're Yes, I think. I mean, look,

632
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 3: the media is a broad thing, right, Like, did Fox

633
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 3: News want to understand me?

634
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: No? No they didn't.

635
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 3: They didn't.

636
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: But that was one of your favorite, my favorite interviews

637
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: of yours during the campaign though, when you went on

638
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: a because I was like, you know, I like when

639
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: you get at people, even when it's me.

640
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: But I'm like, yeah, I like, I like that.

641
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 3: But here's the thing, and I and I You're right.

642
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: In the book, I do talk a lot about the media.

643
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 3: And the thing that I was so disappointing about that

644
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 3: interview and I write about it, is that I was

645
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 3: told and believed that he would be tough.

646
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: But fair on Fox News.

647
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I know that. But you know what, but listen,

648
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 3: here's the thing. I was running to be president of

649
00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 3: all Americans, including people who watched Fox News, and and

650
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 3: so I wasn't going to not give myself and them

651
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: an opportunity to have that conversation. But the way he

652
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 3: set up the interview was quite disingenuous, and I think

653
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: right now, we are faced with a real challenge around

654
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 3: media writ large. We are looking at a lot of

655
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: corporate run media. I would urge everyone to really support

656
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 3: independent media. You know, the climate is changing, so you know,

657
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 3: in addition to trusted sources I mentioned earlier, like AP

658
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: and you know New York Times. But really it's so

659
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Speaker 3: diffuse now. I was talking with a group of young

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Speaker 3: people earlier today here in Birmingham, and they were between

661
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Speaker 3: about age of eighteen and twenty two, and I was

662
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 3: asking him where do you get your news? And it's

663
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: all online. They're not really reading their news, They're they're

664
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Speaker 3: receiving it mostly through a video presentation, and it's through TikTok,

665
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 3: it's through Twitter, it's through the shade room through And

666
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 3: what they are yearning for, as they expressed to me

667
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 3: without me asking, is we know how we are being

668
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: treated like a commodity. They know it, our young leaders

669
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: know it, and they are yearning to have those conversations

670
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 3: where they can trust that fact and truth are being

671
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Speaker 3: sent their way. So there we are.

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Speaker 1: I thought you did a great job.

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Speaker 2: I mean, even when you read one hundred and seven days,

674
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Speaker 2: you did a great job of going to you know,

675
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 2: the legacy media outlets like The View, the Code Bands,

676
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: but then you still were doing the that's like that.

677
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Speaker 2: I thought that was a great way to do it

678
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Speaker 2: because you kind of got to meet everybody where they

679
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Speaker 2: are nowadays.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: I thought you did a good that's of course with

682
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Speaker 1: with with the View. You know, you you had a

683
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Speaker 1: lot of regret over that moment in the book.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. There. I did an interview on The View shortly

685
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Speaker 3: before the election, and I was asked about the difference

686
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Speaker 3: between myself and Joe Biden, and it was in an

687
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Speaker 3: environment where there had been so much being sent his

688
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: way and I just wasn't about to pile on for

689
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: better and worse. I am a loyal person, and I

690
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 3: interpreted the question as requiring me to criticize him, and

691
00:46:52,360 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 3: I wasn't going to do that. What thank you. But

692
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Speaker 3: what I misinterpreted was that there was also a desire

693
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Speaker 3: for me to distinguish myself from him. But I thought

694
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 3: the differences were obvious, and you know, maybe I should not.

695
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 3: Maybe I should have probably given more thought to how

696
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Speaker 3: to point out you know, for example, I was focused

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00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 3: on what we need to do around childcare and those

698
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 3: kinds of things. So yeah, I do reflect on that

699
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 3: interview in the book and talk about that, And you do.

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Speaker 1: Talk about loyalty a lot in the book.

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Speaker 2: You talk about your loyalty being tested, Like what's your

702
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Speaker 2: definition of loyalty in politics versus loyalty in friendship.

703
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Speaker 3: Oh, that's a great question. I mean, loyalty is about

704
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 3: as much as anything, not being a fair weather friend.

705
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Speaker 3: It's about standing with people when they're down and when

706
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Speaker 3: they're up. It's about you know, not you know, not

707
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Speaker 3: just fair weather. I'm with you when the times are good,

708
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 3: and and it's about you know, I think there is

709
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Speaker 3: loyalty is rooted and really caring about another person and

710
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Speaker 3: their well being. Loyalty I think is about for me,

711
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 3: you know, knowing life is long and I mean, look,

712
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 3: my best friend from kindergarten is still one of my

713
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: best friends, right, and that's just how I am.

714
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Speaker 2: But even with that, like in the book, you know,

715
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Speaker 2: your loyalty was being questioned even though you was, you know,

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Speaker 2: loyal to the soil, Like your loyalty was being questioned

717
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: by you know, the Biden, Biden's wife in particular, and

718
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 2: Dougie had an issue with that, like that that didn't.

719
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Speaker 1: Mean you feel a way.

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Speaker 3: Nobody likes to have their loyalty or they're good questions,

721
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Speaker 3: but that was I mean, that was something that I

722
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 3: think needs to be put in context as well. But

723
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Speaker 3: the reality of it is that my focus was not

724
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Speaker 3: one not in the book and not on the campaign

725
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 3: trail about Joe Biden. My focus was on the fact

726
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Speaker 3: that I was running against Donald Trump and that that

727
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 3: needed to be the focus of everybody involved, as opposed

728
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 3: to trying to find some kind of palace intrigue in

729
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 3: terms of what was going on within our administration.

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Speaker 2: When people say they still don't know who the real

731
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is, do you ever think to yourself, that's

732
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Speaker 2: because you're.

733
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Speaker 3: Not ready for her, because I'm not.

734
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Speaker 2: What do you ever think to yourself that's because you're

735
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Speaker 2: not ready for her as in me?

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Speaker 3: I think there is some truth to that, I suppose,

737
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Speaker 3: but yeah, I don't know that people are asking that

738
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Speaker 3: question as much as they're asking how can we bring

739
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: down the cost of food?

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Speaker 2: During the campaign, they were though, Like during the campaign,

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Speaker 2: they definitely were.

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Speaker 3: Well, not seventy five million people. Seventy five million people

743
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Speaker 3: voted for me.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, pact. You want to do some audience questions, sure,

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Speaker 1: Courtney Weaver. Oh how are you? Yeah, this is a

746
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Speaker 1: good question.

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Speaker 2: How are you fostering hope during a time when hope

748
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Speaker 2: can feel lost?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Courtney, are you here? Can we turn on the

750
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Speaker 3: lights so we can see everybody? Courtney, somebody's gonna turn

751
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Speaker 3: on the lights in here. Where are you? Wait? Wave

752
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 3: waves everybody around Courtney Wave.

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Speaker 1: Oh there were a great you just woke up. You

754
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Speaker 1: was on your on Instagram? Was something pay attention.

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00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 3: Hope. So here's for example, I just ask everybody look

756
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 3: at each other, the person sitting next to you that

757
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 3: you don't know, and just say hello, and how you

758
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 3: do it right? My hope is is born out of

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00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 3: just the mood here and my knowledge that we want

760
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 3: to we love our country and we know it's our

761
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 3: country and we're prepared to fight for it. The same

762
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: people who came to the rallies by the tens of

763
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 3: thousands during those hundred and seven days still have that

764
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Speaker 3: sense of hope. I know it for what are our

765
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 3: country can be. They still believe it on behalf of

766
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Speaker 3: their children and the children and their lives. And hope

767
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 3: is an interesting thing is It's something that is ours

768
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 3: to have, but it can't be taken from us. We

769
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 3: can't let our hope be taken from us. It's something

770
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 3: that comes from inside of us that we have and

771
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 3: when we look around and see each other and we

772
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 3: know that this fight is worth it, that gives me hope.

773
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 3: That gives me hope, And it gets back to my point,

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00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 3: don't let any circumstances, situation diminish that light that when

775
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 3: I think about hope and light, it's part of the

776
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 3: same thing.

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00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 1: Did you ever have to build that back up?

778
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: Like was there ever a period like after election night

779
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: and now where you had to replenish that couple hope.

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00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 3: Well, I needed to take some time, and that's for sure.

781
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 3: I spent time, you know, with my family. I spent

782
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 3: a lot of time cooking. Doug's very happy. I needed

783
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 3: to take a minute. And you know, for example, for months,

784
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 3: I did not watch cable news. I just was not

785
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 3: going to I was watching the cooking channel full time.

786
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 3: So I knew I needed to take a minute to

787
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: just pull back because again, every day and still every day,

788
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 3: you see what's happening and we knew what could have been,

789
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 3: and it's very it's painful for all of us, and

790
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 3: most importantly, it's painful for the people who right now,

791
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 3: for example, starting on November first, their premiums are going

792
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: to go up in terms of the healthcare because the

793
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 3: Republicans who are in charge of the House to send

794
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 3: it in the White House. They're in charge. This is

795
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: their shutdown. This is their shutdown, right And you know,

796
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: so when you see bad things happening, it has a

797
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 3: way of being very deflating, and sometimes you need to

798
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 3: just step step back for a moment to realize it's

799
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 3: not everybody, and it's and and there are more good

800
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 3: people than there are those who are trying to cause destruction.

801
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: You know, you asked me earlier it was the misconception

802
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 2: that people have you, And I just thought about it

803
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 2: that people I don't know if people really know you

804
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 2: really be cooking because I remember one time we were

805
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: in South Carolina. We was in Somerville, South Carolina, I believe,

806
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 2: and I think we were speaking. You were speaking at

807
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:53,959
Speaker 2: a church. That's when you unveiled your mental health plan.

808
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: And I was with you, and you know that you've.

809
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 3: Been a great leader on mental health.

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00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: Thank you.

811
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 2: And it was when it was over you. You It

812
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: was like, look, I want to show you something. And

813
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 2: you had a trunk full of calligreens.

814
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: And wasn't no cameras around. It was nothing. And she

815
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: asked me, say, you think I'm a little crazy walking

816
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: through the airport with all these calligreens.

817
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 3: Okay, So here's what happened. It was Thanksgiving, yes, and

818
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 3: I was campaigning and my family we decided to spend

819
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 3: our Thanksgiving in Iowa, and I wanted to take my

820
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 3: callagreens from South Carolina. So I had plastic bags full

821
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 3: of fresh collar greens walking through the airport. I didn't care.

822
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 3: I was a good country woman. I was walking through

823
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Speaker 3: put in my collar.

824
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Speaker 1: It's true story.

825
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 3: It's a true story.

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Speaker 1: Darryl Prewitt, he says, Madam Vice President.

827
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Speaker 2: A lot of people in our communities feel like we

828
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: only get attention when it's election season, but not when

829
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: it's time for real investments. So my question is how

830
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 2: do we move from being needed from votes to being

831
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: valued for our power?

832
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: Darryl Pruitt.

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00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 3: Darryl, where are you there, darl there? You are hello? No,

834
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 3: you're right. I mean part of the work that elected

835
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 3: leaders have to do, that we all have to do

836
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 3: is not just come around election time and and it

837
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 3: can't be transactional.

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00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: One of the reasons I decided not to run for

840
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 3: governor of California is I'm just I need I want

841
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 3: to be I want to be talking like to the

842
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 3: young people else talking with today in Birmingham, and it

843
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 3: not be transactional where I'm not there asking for their

844
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 3: vote and elected leaders people are running for office. Democrats

845
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 3: need to do a better job of that and being

846
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 3: present and listening. I mean as an extension at that point.

847
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 3: So part of what I am proposing to extend the

848
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 3: power of the people and to make sure that people

849
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 3: who have so much at stake are heard, is I

850
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 3: actually believe we need to bring down the age of

851
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 3: voting to sixteen. I do. So let that sit with

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00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 3: you for a minute. I know it's if you have

853
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 3: if you have sixteen year olds in your life, it's

854
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 3: a complicated thing I'm asking you.

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Speaker 1: To think about.

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00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 3: I mean, you can work and drive, it's but here's

857
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 3: the thing. The biggest issues that I think we are facing,

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00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 3: that are the most intractable, are directly going to impact

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00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 3: people who are in that generation. It is going to

860
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 3: there is so much about way the things have been

861
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 3: that for some of us, we're going to be okay.

862
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 3: But if you look at it in terms of the

863
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 3: future of work, for example, what technology is doing right

864
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: now to change the future of work in America and

865
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 3: the world is profound. Gen Z are from age thirteen

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00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 3: to about twenty seven to twenty eight. They are a

867
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 3: larger population of people than boomers. They have only known

868
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 3: the climate crisis. They missed substantial phases of their education

869
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 3: and socialization through the pandemic. Understand one in four Black

870
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 3: Americans lost a family member during the pandemic, So imagine

871
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 3: what that means in terms of the trauma for the

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00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 3: family unit. Understand that the statistics that I have seen

873
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 3: are that gen Z will come out of high school

874
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 3: or college having ten to twelve jobs in their lifetime.

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00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 3: Previous generations, the job you took out of high school

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00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 3: or college was pretty much the job you had until

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Speaker 3: you retired. For those who are in high school in

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Speaker 3: college right now, they're wondering, especially those who are in college,

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Speaker 3: if what they are studying is actually going to result

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00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 3: in a job that pays them. Right. The American dream

881
00:59:54,000 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 3: around the possibility of home ownership all of that. And

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Speaker 3: so when I think about if we were to allow

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Speaker 3: younger people to vote and what that would require of

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Speaker 3: people running for office, which is to not just talk

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Speaker 3: about right now, but what is your plan for the

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01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 3: next five, ten, and twenty years for our country, Because

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01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 3: it is they, our youngest generation, that are going to

888
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 3: either benefit or pay the price for what we are

889
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 3: doing right now. So there you go, think about it,

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01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 3: think about it. But I think it is it is

891
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 3: when we talk about listening to the people, and not

892
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Speaker 3: just around election time, because when I'm talking to young

893
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 3: people around our country, they're done with us. They are impatient.

894
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 3: They're like, you know what, y'all need to figure it

895
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 3: out or we're going to do it for you. So

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Speaker 3: there you are.

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Speaker 2: You know, in the book you write about democracy being fragile,

898
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 2: and we see that happening right now. Do you still

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01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 2: believe the system can can fix yourself from the inside?

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Speaker 3: No, not necessarily. Okay, it pains me to say that.

901
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 3: I when I decided to become a prosecutor, I had

902
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 3: to defend that decision with my family. They were not

903
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 3: down with that decision, so many of them. And I said, look,

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Speaker 3: why is it that we are always thinking that for

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Speaker 3: systems that need change or reform, that we have to

906
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 3: be on the outside on Ben de knee or trying

907
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 3: to break down the door to get that improvement done.

908
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 3: I said, shouldn't we also think about being on the

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Speaker 3: inside of the system as a way to have an impact.

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Speaker 3: And I have believed that, and I've seen the benefit

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01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 3: of that my entire career. But to be very candid,

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01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 3: I perhaps naively thought the system and would be stronger

913
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Speaker 3: in this moment, and it's been. And I think that

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Speaker 3: without any question, the destruction caused by this administration in

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01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 3: this moment and the debris that will be left is

916
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Speaker 3: going to require some serious work, and it will need

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Speaker 3: to be without nostalgia about how things were, knowing that

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Speaker 3: there was a lot that was not working so well

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Speaker 3: and there was a lot that was working well, to

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01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 3: be sure, and the people inside, these career people who

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01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 3: have been there doing incredible God's work must be applauded always.

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Speaker 3: But the structure and the way we have designed some

923
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Speaker 3: of these systems has turned out to be quite flawed.

924
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 3: And so the change that we want and the improvement

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01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 3: that we're going to need, some of it will be

926
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Speaker 3: from inside the system. But I think a lot of

927
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Speaker 3: it is going to be because of the pressure that

928
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Speaker 3: the people put to say, this is how I want

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Speaker 3: my government to work for me. I think that's and

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Speaker 3: I think that perhaps in this moment of crisis, it

931
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Speaker 3: is going to one of the maybe opportunities in this

932
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Speaker 3: moment of severe crisis is that when we have to

933
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Speaker 3: then start figuring out how we're going to deal with

934
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Speaker 3: the debris and the cleanup, that it gives us an

935
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Speaker 3: opportunity to reimagine some of these systems to make them

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Speaker 3: more effective and responsive to the needs of the people.

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Speaker 2: Well, if one hundred and seven days was your closure

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Speaker 2: for one chapter, what's the new one you're ready to open?

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Speaker 1: Are you going to be part of that cleanup? Are

940
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: you going to be out there to shoot you?

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Speaker 3: You know, it is my nature to serve. I'm not

942
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 3: going to stop serving, But right now my focus is

943
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Speaker 3: on winning, and so I'm going to be doing work

944
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Speaker 3: on behalf of folks in the midterms. There are two

945
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Speaker 3: important governor's races happening in the country right now, which

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Speaker 3: we should focus on. In New Jersey and Virginia. There's

947
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Speaker 3: the local work that's happening, and that's going to be

948
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Speaker 3: my focus. We have to win on everything, and it's

949
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Speaker 3: about not only elections, but around this war on disinformation

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Speaker 3: and also just lifting up the ability of us as

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Speaker 3: Americans to trust each other. There's a lot of work

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Speaker 3: to be done, and I'm in it and I'm here

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Speaker 3: for the fight.

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Speaker 2: Make some noise for the Madame Vice President John Kamala

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Speaker 2: Harris Birmingham, y'all have been amazing.