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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us as we roll through

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Speaker 1: the Thursday edition of the program. Lots to discuss as

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Speaker 1: Trump remains on trial in New York City. Lots of

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Speaker 1: construction workers, big Trump fans, a lot of positivity there.

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Speaker 1: But I want to play for you the big story here.

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Speaker 1: And I went and read the New York Times coverage

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Speaker 1: just to confirm that, Yeah, the hearing went about like

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Speaker 1: Buck and I told you that it did. Because if

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Speaker 1: even the Supreme Court headline on the New York Times

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Speaker 1: is conservative majority seems ready to limit election case against Trump,

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Speaker 1: such a ruling would probably send it back to a

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Speaker 1: lower court and delay any trial until after the November election.

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Speaker 1: So if the New York Times is telling you a

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Speaker 1: couple of hours later what Buck and I told you

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Speaker 1: at the top of the show was likely to be

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Speaker 1: the case, I'm even more convinced that our analysis of

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Speaker 1: this is on point, because this is not what the

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Speaker 1: New York Times wants to write. This is not what

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Speaker 1: the New York Times wants to report. And Buck, I

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Speaker 1: pulled one line that I thought was interesting from the

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Speaker 1: New York Times article here, and I do think it's significant.

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Speaker 2: We're writing a rule for the ages.

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Speaker 3: Justice Gorsuch said, a lot of focus on Trump, deservedly so,

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Speaker 3: but whatever precedent is put in place here, the principle

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Speaker 3: of that precedent will apply for years and years to come.

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Speaker 2: And we've got some.

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Speaker 1: Audio that I think goes a long way towards establishing

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Speaker 1: exactly what I am talking about. From Justice Gorsa himself,

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Speaker 1: I want to start this is earlier today. What exact

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Speaker 1: presidential immunity might Trump have as it pertains to the

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Speaker 1: charges brought by Jack Smith? How do you draw that line?

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Speaker 1: Where should the line be?

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Speaker 3: Gorsa talks about the history here and says, I want

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Speaker 3: to think about how this will apply going forward.

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Speaker 2: Listen to Cut twenty four.

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Speaker 4: The same thing in Nixon, we said, Gosh, Nixon versus Fitzgerald,

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Speaker 4: that's something court shouldn't get engaged in because presidents have

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Speaker 4: all manner of motives. And again, I'm not concerned about

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Speaker 4: this case, but I am concerned about future uses of

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Speaker 4: the criminal law to target political opponents based on accusations

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Speaker 4: about their motives, whether it's reelection or who knows what

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Speaker 4: corrupt means in fifteen twelve. We don't know what that means.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we'll find out sometime soon. But the dangerousness of

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Speaker 4: accusing your political opponent of having bad motives and if

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Speaker 4: that's enough to overcome your core powers or any other.

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Speaker 1: Limits fabulously well said Buck. I mean, that's gorsiic. I've

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Speaker 1: got a couple more I want to play. But this

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Speaker 1: goes to we're not just deciding Trump. We're deciding what

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Speaker 1: the precedent should be for presidents that will serve, hopefully

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Speaker 1: long into the future after anyone listening to this right

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Speaker 1: now is gone. Who's your favorite justice on the Court

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Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 2: It's a great question.

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Speaker 3: I'll just for me, it's Alito or Thomas, but occasionally

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Speaker 3: Gorsich gets to me kind of excited.

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Speaker 2: But Alito or Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I think it's Gorsich because my and this is me

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Speaker 1: talking as a lawyer, and maybe it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a romantic thought, but what I like about Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court cases is not deciding challenging issues of today. It's

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Speaker 1: when they're so incredibly well crafted that two hundred years

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Speaker 1: this principle still applies. As a clarion call for liberty

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Speaker 1: along end of the future, and I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of justices get captured by the emotional winds of the moment.

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Speaker 1: For instance, when we had Soda Mayor asking questions about

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Speaker 1: the mandate on the COVID shot and she couldn't even

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Speaker 1: get the facts right. Remember she said, there's like one

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Speaker 3: Probably wearing two masks during the oral arguments. So that

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Speaker 3: tells well, I mean, and I think that factors in here.

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Speaker 3: It takes a particular type of intellect to be contemplating

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Speaker 3: not only what you're deciding today, but how that principle

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Speaker 3: And that ties in with this cut here Alito, who

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Speaker 3: the Gorsage point, there's a difference between what you want

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Speaker 3: it's at any moment in time, and that has to

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Speaker 3: Because if presidential conduct that is clearly presidential conduct that

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Speaker 3: you decide to do so, right, I mean that, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he he didn't pardon that person because he thought that,

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Speaker 3: you know, he should. Now, pardons are interesting, aren't they?

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Speaker 3: Because pardons are because it gets a little bit of

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Speaker 3: a you know, what is the quid pro quo? But

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Speaker 3: to be. I think that Gorsich understands that this is

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Speaker 3: the implications. They have to get this right, which is

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Speaker 3: why I think they'll take a very narrow and minimal

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Speaker 3: favorite probably Jeddie Thomas Cut twenty three. Here this is

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Speaker 3: important for those of you who are not students of history.

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Speaker 3: One of the I think most indefensible decisions of.

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Speaker 1: The World War II era. Everybody wants to debate now,

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Speaker 1: should we have dropped the bomb? That's been turned into

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Speaker 1: a big discussion. My answer is yes, it was a

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Speaker 1: right decision to drop the bomb on Japan at Hiroshima

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Speaker 1: and Nagasaki, but we had containment camps in the United

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Speaker 1: court to come out and say, actually, sorry, we shouldn't

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Speaker 2: I believe this is the lawyer. It's been a while

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Speaker 1: The bar Kuramatsu is the case that said this was wrong,

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Speaker 1: and Alitos says, okay, let's look at the scope of history.

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Speaker 1: Could FDR have been prosecuted for putting Japanese Americans in

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Speaker 2: Listen to Cut three twenty three.

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Speaker 5: Mister Sauer and others have identified events in the past

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Speaker 5: where presidents have engaged in conduct that might have been

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Speaker 5: charged as a federal crime. And you say, well, no,

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Speaker 5: that's not really true. This is page forty two of

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Speaker 5: your brief. So what about President Franklin D. Roosevelt's decision

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Speaker 5: to in turn Japanese Americans during World War Two? Couldn't

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Speaker 3: Today?

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Speaker 6: Yes, given this court's decision in Trump versus United States,

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Speaker 6: in which you know Trump versus Hawaiian Excuse me, where

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Speaker 6: the court said coramots who is overruled? And President Roosevelt

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Speaker 6: made that decision with the advice of his Attorney general.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the point is a really good one. FDR

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Speaker 1: crew in nineteen forty four, right after basically his re election.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm are good memory poll there, Powder Springs, Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Look at you.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm making sure that I'm right. But so, he

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Speaker 1: couldn't have been prosecuted because he died. But let's pretend

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Speaker 1: that in another world FDR lives until nineteen sixty four.

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Speaker 1: What if a prosecutor had decided after he left the

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Speaker 1: Another good example I read in the Wall Street Journal

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Speaker 1: away with the writ of habeas corpus during the Civil War.

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Speaker 1: He defied his Supreme Court and he said I can

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Speaker 2: That said, it's actually illegal. You know, I think it's

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Speaker 2: actually illegal. I mean, you know, as much as we

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Speaker 2: all like Lincoln, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know a while.

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Speaker 2: That's the point here.

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Speaker 1: Is is that even though it's an illegal act, and

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Speaker 1: we later find out the Supreme Court says that FDR

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have been able to do the concentration camps, where

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Speaker 1: do you draw the line?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 3: They tried to say, well, his Attorney General said this

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Speaker 3: was all right. I think we call them internment camps,

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Speaker 3: not concentration camps, I think generally, right, although I know

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Speaker 3: it's a similar just to differentiate, right, Yeah, Well, they

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Speaker 3: difference between a concentration camp and internment camp. But regardless,

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Speaker 3: they weren't trying to put the Japanese Americans to death.

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Speaker 3: They were just trying to restrict them from aiding Japan

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: She tried to say the Attorney General told FDR he

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Speaker 1: could do so. Well, that's an interesting argument then, too,

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Speaker 1: because then the argument is, well, if the conspiracy is

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Speaker 1: criminal culpability. So if the Attorney General agrees that the

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Speaker 1: president's misbehaving, well what about the president found advisors to

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Speaker 1: give him advice that he wanted to hear, because you could,

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Speaker 1: you know, buck, you brief the president when you're the

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Speaker 1: if you can do something sooner or later, somebody will say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Do it, sir.

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Speaker 3: It's even worse than that because in the government bureaucracy,

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Speaker 3: and I can tell you from the CIA, the DNI

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Speaker 3: This is what people do. What the president wants to hear,

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Speaker 3: and that's what you tell him, because you're the one

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Speaker 3: and you're the one that gets promoted.

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Speaker 1: Yes, men get promoted. Yes men get promoted. This is

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Speaker 1: why positions of power is difficult to make good decisions

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Speaker 1: because eventually you get so powerful that everybody tells you're

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Speaker 1: a genius. And this is how the emperor has no clothes.

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Speaker 1: He's walking around everybody lies to him.

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Speaker 3: Okay, My point on this is, if you really study history,

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Speaker 3: Trump will not be the last president that the opposing

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Speaker 3: political party will try to put in prison. And this

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Speaker 3: is why I'll give us ring the bell here a

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Speaker 3: little bit of praise you and I from the moment

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Speaker 3: they raided mar A Lago in August of twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: two and Alan Derschwitz, there's very few people who actually

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Speaker 3: are staying committed to principle said.

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Speaker 2: This is an awful precedent.

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Speaker 1: Because once you set a new principle, once you set

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Speaker 1: a new president, others will follow it. So as soon

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Speaker 1: as the FBI showed up and raided mar A Lago,

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Speaker 1: and as soon as these charges started. My belief is

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Speaker 1: the only way to really snuff this idea in the bud.

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Speaker 1: One is the Supreme Court. I should say there's a

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Speaker 2: Play it in the past.

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Speaker 8: We are basically Democrats, all of us, and after what's

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Klay Travis buck Sexton Show, we go

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Speaker 1: down to the state of Florida in general. There man

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Speaker 1: But what in the world is going on with all

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Speaker 9: Well, it's it's complete mystery to me too. And actually

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Speaker 3: Loipoe, appreciate you being with us, and we always deal

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like any of the people who got

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Speaker 9: So much better. And you know, California is a beautiful state,

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Speaker 9: but we really don't have to do it now thanks

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Speaker 9: I mean, it's like it is dead, all that crazy stuff,

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Speaker 9: dead here in Floridas.

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Speaker 3: Being the doctor Joseph Latipo, his book is Transcend Fear,

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Speaker 3: a blueprint for mindful leadership in public health? What do

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Speaker 3: we do about the fact that, I mean, doctor Alaipa,

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Speaker 3: But if someone were to come to me and say,

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Speaker 3: they laid out all the reasons why they may not,

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Speaker 3: I don't have any answer to that. I mean the

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Speaker 3: deal with the data as it stands now, which is

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Speaker 3: irrefutable with the conclusion that masking is a joke. Lockdowns

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Speaker 3: from it whatsoever. Vaccines didn't work nearly as well as

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Speaker 3: they said that they would. If they really barely work

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Speaker 3: at all, they won't admit anything. So why should people

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Speaker 3: trust public health? I mean, you wrote a book about leadership.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if I were president, I'd be like, maybe

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Speaker 9: Well, the rational thing to do of course is not

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Speaker 9: to trust them. I mean, why would you trust someone

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Speaker 9: like how like when they haid information about mycronditis tenatus,

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Speaker 9: which is the ringing in the ears that happens after

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Speaker 9: for some people and can be devastating unfortunately, I mean

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Speaker 9: and A COVID nineteen vaccines. So why would you ever

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Speaker 9: trust someone like that? That's completely insane, and it's a

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Speaker 9: double tragedy. It's a double tragedy because they do do

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Speaker 9: But because of all this, all this integrity that they've

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Speaker 9: it is completely rational for people not to trust anything,

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Speaker 9: So people will miss out on the good things that

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Speaker 9: things and the harms that they've done. So it's obviously

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Speaker 9: the sensible rational thing not to trust someone who lies

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Speaker 9: to you and who hides important information from you, and

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Speaker 9: who doesn't think that you are mature enough or have enough,

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Speaker 9: have enough station to make decisions for yourself about your lives.

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Speaker 9: I mean, that is clearly the rational thing to do

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Speaker 9: in that type of relationship.

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious, and again I'd encourage everybody to go

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Speaker 1: check out your book again, because you were right on

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Speaker 1: so much having to do with COVID. Has anyone privately

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Speaker 1: in the science community approached you and said, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I bought into the fear.

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Speaker 3: I thought you were crazy in twenty twenty and twenty

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Speaker 1: Are you getting any of that behind this or do

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Speaker 1: you think the people who now recognize they were wrong

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Speaker 1: year olds getting COVID shots that had almost no impact

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Speaker 1: and kids having to wear masks in schools. Do they

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Speaker 1: all just want to pretend none of this happened. I'm

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Speaker 1: just curious behind the scenes, whether anyone has acknowledged you

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Speaker 1: know what, you guys got it right in Florida, you

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Speaker 1: got it right with your medical diagnosis, or are they

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Speaker 1: just now not saying anything. What are you experiencing not

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Speaker 1: only publicly but maybe privately in the science community.

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Speaker 9: Yeah. Sure. So I've got a note right now that

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Speaker 9: I'm looking at and it really warms my heart. Let's

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Speaker 9: central northeast north United States, who thanked me for, you know,

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Speaker 9: sticking to the science. And you know, she wrote a nice,

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Speaker 9: long note. I've never met her before, but it's a

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Speaker 9: when they meanciate them from everyone scientists are non scientists,

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Speaker 9: but especially when I get them from scientists. It gives

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Speaker 9: me some hope because sometimes I do feel like, oh

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Speaker 9: I mean, I mean I'm out here on the on

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Speaker 9: doctor Peter McCalla, doctor Harvey Reach, doctor Robert Malone. So

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Speaker 9: that does hearten me. But for the most part, and

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Speaker 9: I hate to say it, but it's it's partly I

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Speaker 9: well as it sounds to these m RNA COVID nineteen

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Speaker 1: Joseph Fladipo, Doctor Surgeon General of Florida, Go buy the book,

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Speaker 3: We are close to having more deaths in the country

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Speaker 3: than we have births, which has never occurred in the

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Speaker 3: history of the United States since people maybe back in

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Speaker 3: like the sixteen twenties that happened, but certainly not since

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Speaker 3: we became a country. And this is really crazy and

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Speaker 3: scary to think about. And I just have an idea

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Speaker 3: for people out there to contemplate.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 3: You are over forty now, men I think can take

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Speaker 3: more risks in career because for most men.

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Speaker 2: I was talking about this with my boys.

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Speaker 3: Mc jagger just had a kid and he's like one

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Speaker 3: hundred and ten, So there.

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Speaker 1: You go, we can have kids theoretically for our entire lifespan.

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Speaker 3: What's really going on here? If you look at the data,

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Speaker 3: is that women are being lied to. That's right, that's

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Speaker 3: what's happening.

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Speaker 1: Women are meen are being told, Women are being told,

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Speaker 1: you can have it all, you can go to school

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Speaker 1: until you're thirty five. I mean, the math just doesn't

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Speaker 1: add up, right, I mean the math doesn't add up.

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Speaker 2: And I get it.

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Speaker 1: I understand why women are also frustrated by the men

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Speaker 1: because men don't have the same pressures at the same ages.

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Speaker 1: A twenty eight year old guy might legitimately have never

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Speaker 1: really given that much thought to having children, whereas every

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Speaker 1: twenty eight year old woman in America has.

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Speaker 3: This is a huge conversation involves policy as much as

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Speaker 3: it involved, rather involves culture, I think more than it

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Speaker 3: even involves policy, or the policy plays.

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Speaker 2: A role in this.

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Speaker 3: But you know, there's so much Why don't We'll get

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Speaker 3: into this a little bit moaning to dining of this tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: But Americans need to be having more babies at a

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Speaker 3: younger age. And I say that with full awareness of

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Speaker 3: I am still trying to start a family later on life.

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Speaker 3: But you know I've seen and learned, and I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you this, Clay, I do not know a single person

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Speaker 3: at this stage in their forties, who says to me,

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Speaker 3: I wish I hadn't had kids and had focused on

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Speaker 3: my career. I could sit here all day and tell

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Speaker 3: you people who are sad that they didn't have kids

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Speaker 3: earlier and focused on their careers. It's a great point.

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Speaker 3: I've never heard it either. Have babies. We'll talk about

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Speaker 3: it tomorrow