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Speaker 2: What is going on, everybody? How are we doing? Just

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Speaker 2: watch the Niners lose again. The Lions head into this

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Speaker 2: enormous game against the against the Vikings, so we will

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Speaker 2: dive into party. We will dive into the Lions chances

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Speaker 2: not just against the Vikings but in the playoffs with

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Speaker 2: their defensive situation. We will not talk about Jake Moody,

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Speaker 2: one of the worst kickers we've ever seen, happen to

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Speaker 2: be a third round draft pick. That's a disaster, but

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Speaker 2: that will be a time maybe for the off season.

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Speaker 2: No more drafting kickers high, especially because the Lions kicker

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Speaker 2: is a former soccer player. There's an undrafted free agent

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Speaker 2: that played like the USFL looks way better. But sorry

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Speaker 2: to go on the tangent there. I've been dealing with

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Speaker 2: a cold flu.

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Speaker 3: I don't know I've been. I was.

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Speaker 2: I was basically in bed all day and sweating as

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Speaker 2: I'm speaking, but thought about canceling, but I was like,

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Speaker 2: you know, football season, this is the last regular season

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Speaker 2: Monday night game. It's Lions Niners. If I can't have

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Speaker 2: a Michael Jordan flu game flu pod, then I don't

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Speaker 2: deserve the podcast. So I'm digging deep we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: the game. We'll do a little mail bag as well

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Speaker 2: at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is my Instagram. Fire

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Speaker 2: in those dms. And there will be no show on

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Speaker 2: New Year's Day, so I'm not recording anything on New

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Speaker 2: a football game tomorrow, Boys and State Penn State.

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Speaker 3: I have to look at the schedule.

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Speaker 2: I know we got three games on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: So football just never stops. This is a great time

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Speaker 2: first and foremost. I really admire those two teams. No

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Speaker 2: one has anything to play for. The Lions could have

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Speaker 2: rested guys to be ready for next week, given that

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Speaker 2: they're playing Monday night, three times zones over and they

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Speaker 2: have one of the biggest games in franchise history coming

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Speaker 2: up at home. And not only did Dan Campbell not

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Speaker 2: rest anybody, he approached that no different than he will

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Speaker 2: next week. The forty nine ers have guys making huge money,

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Speaker 2: well established stars, and they played their ass off. It

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Speaker 2: feels like one of the better Nick Bosa games. And

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Speaker 2: maybe he was up because he's playing you two really

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Speaker 2: good tackles. George Kittle is just leaving it at all

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Speaker 2: on the George Kittle's had a fantastic season. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: Pierce All got shot making the game of his life tonight,

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Speaker 2: Juwan Jennings, Fred Warner. I mean, these guys are all

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Speaker 2: flying around, and this is why football dominates because no

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Speaker 2: best effort. And that's the definitely a defining attribute of

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Speaker 2: Monday Night football. We say it all the time. Even

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Speaker 2: as the season goes on. You can get matchups, or

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Speaker 2: But let's start with the forty nine ers, and let's

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Speaker 2: I mean they talked about it tonight, and Troy Aikman

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Speaker 2: Think the forty nine ers punted. And the only way

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Speaker 2: Twofold somehow drafted a kicker in the third round and

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Speaker 2: that's a separate issue. Was if brock Purdy or offensive

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Speaker 2: players fumbled the ball. No turnovers, And for whatever reason

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Speaker 2: the balls he completes oftentimes are erratic. And tonight was

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Speaker 2: tough because that Lion's defense, beside a couple players, is

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Speaker 2: only did he do it once, he did it twice,

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Speaker 2: But like when we talk about brock Perdy's skill set,

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Speaker 4: What the hell was that.

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Speaker 2: It's just listen, I'm not trying to be some hater

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Speaker 2: But when I watched tonight and I watched those two

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Speaker 2: it's over, Like I don't you can be like, well

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Speaker 2: the defense sucks, Well, yeah, they've sucked for a long time.

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Speaker 2: They're not very good this year. Neither's the Lions. You

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff. You know why because if Jared Goff throws

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Speaker 2: picks right now, guess what will happen. The Lions will

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Speaker 2: lose that. He can't afford to turn it over. He's

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Speaker 2: got to be perfect. So what was Jared Goff tonight?

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Speaker 2: Twenty five to thirty fourth, three hundred yards, three touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: A huge part of Jared Goff's game because he's not

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Speaker 2: But it's decision making, really good decision making, especially over

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Speaker 3: Why they're good players. But where Jared.

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Speaker 2: there's gonna be a stretch from my defense and shambles,

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Speaker 2: need to fucking ride you like you know, Secretariat, and

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Speaker 2: whether you play like Josh Allen or whether you play

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Speaker 2: like Jared Goff for perty, you got to play within

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Speaker 2: stride like Rock Prairie Tod today like that. I don't

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Speaker 2: know anyone making excuse for him, for him to night

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Speaker 3: Embarrassed like that was.

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Speaker 2: That's an enlightening moment. And then he gets you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that was. Keep your fingers crossed.

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Speaker 2: He couldn't grip the ball. Hopefully she's just his hand.

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Speaker 2: But man like, I just can't get over the interceptions.

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Speaker 2: I don't do the inner, especially second half interceptions. And

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Speaker 2: It really doesn't. So I'm not acting like they're gonna

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Speaker 2: kick him to the curb. Tim Kalkami reported tonight that

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Speaker 2: Jed York, who was on the field before the game

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Speaker 2: told Tim that obviously these guys are coming back. I've

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Speaker 2: never even entertained that story. And Kyle likes Brock, but

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Speaker 2: these have to be moments like there was one moment

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Speaker 2: his mouth. He's O dummy Monday night football. He knows

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Speaker 2: he gets caught on camera talking a bunch of shit,

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Speaker 2: it would go viral.

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Speaker 2: So this was your squad, right, it wasn't. Obviously all

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Speaker 2: But like you get to a law of diminishing returns

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Speaker 2: And Baker Mayfield is thirty nine touchdowns for a reason,

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Speaker 2: It's not bad scheme, it's not a bad coordinator, just

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Speaker 2: Fourteen wins. You know, if they win Sunday, fifteen wins,

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean like a team that's drafting twentieth is

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Speaker 3: Why do we.

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Speaker 2: Even you know, Steven Ross could offer Brian floor as

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Speaker 2: He's been to a million of these, uh these league meetings.

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Speaker 2: If that, if they'd even entertained that, I who knows

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Speaker 3: They're there all the time.

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Speaker 2: All the bad teams are just consistently drafting high, and

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Speaker 2: make it random. It's like, yeah, you might get the

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Speaker 2: For example, is there a reason that Ballard always gets

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Speaker 2: seems insane to me. I don't give a flying fuck that.

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Speaker 3: He's well liked. I agree.

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Speaker 2: If I was a Colts fan, i'd be done. McAfee

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Speaker 2: went scorched earth on them on Twitter. This year's embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: There's no I mean that gut list performance against the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Malik Davis a really talented player, but I mean he

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Speaker 2: looked like Randy Moss. Me he's Justin Jefferson out there

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Speaker 2: against you guys. Obviously, the Anthony Richardson tap out situation,

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Speaker 2: clearly some of the things that McAfee's tweeted about. Guy's

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Speaker 2: not working hard, Guy's not focused, guy's not preparing. Like

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Speaker 2: the franchise is broken. There's no way around it.

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Speaker 3: Relative to what it was.

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Speaker 2: With Peyton Manning and even with early Andrew Luck, what

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Speaker 2: it is now is I don't know the answer.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: The owners a kook, you know, is he gonna fire

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Speaker 2: Ballard And you know you wouldn't think he's gonna fire

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Speaker 2: chain psyching. But I don't know what to tell you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yesterday was you could say yesterday was low.

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Speaker 2: But the season's been pretty bad. It really has. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the Anthony Richardson situation is bad. I would say the

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Speaker 2: overall play of the team. You know, now part of

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Speaker 2: that is I think the expectation I picked him to

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Speaker 2: make the playoffs, so shows you what I know. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean it sucks. You guys are in a weird spot.

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Speaker 2: Huge fan of the show saw this and immediately thought

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Speaker 2: of you. You might have already seen it, but it's

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Speaker 2: a crazy statistic. In the last twenty two years, the

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers have either made an NFC Championship game

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Speaker 2: or missed the playoffs. You know, it actually spans when

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Speaker 2: you say twenty two years. They were so terrible in

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Speaker 2: the two thousands, Like when I was in college, they

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Speaker 2: were so god awful with Mike Nolan and Mike Singletary,

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Speaker 2: they were just never sniffing the playoffs. They've really once

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Speaker 2: Harbaugh got there, made the playoffs three times, and then

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Speaker 2: with Kyle made the playoffs four times, and obviously every

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Speaker 2: time they made the playoffs they'd gone to the NFC Championship.

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Speaker 3: But I think three of those seven they went to

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, wild, here are the scenarios that's gonna happen

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Speaker 2: with Donald. He signs a three year deal making thirty

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Speaker 2: five to forty five per season. They give him the

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Speaker 2: non exclusive franchise tack projected a thirty six million. Another

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Speaker 2: team can offer Donald more and if he takes it,

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Speaker 2: he gets two first round picks, or you know, Minnesota does.

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Speaker 2: Donald signs the exclusive franchise tack forty one million dollars.

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Speaker 2: We run it back with Donald. If he is demanding

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Speaker 2: fifty five mil on his next contract, we either add

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Speaker 2: void years to the contract and keep him, or we

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Speaker 2: make a decision to move on with JJ. I believe

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Speaker 2: they would move on if KOC thinks JJ can be

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Speaker 2: eighty five ninety percent as productive as Donald. Having JJ

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Speaker 2: actually gives us leverage with Donald. He knows we like

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Speaker 2: JJ and won't overpay. I will bet my entire life

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Speaker 2: savings that Donald is on the team next year. There

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Speaker 2: is no a with JJ being hurt that we don't

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Speaker 2: at least tag Darnold for one season. Please look at

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Speaker 2: the message. I watch every single one of your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: My dream is to work for the Vikings. I would

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Speaker 2: say that I think we get too caught up in

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Speaker 2: per year. You know, I see this a lot with

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Speaker 2: the perty conversation. Forty million a year, fifty million a year,

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Speaker 2: sixty million a year, Like, tell me what the contract

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Speaker 2: guaranteed number is? That that's what we're dealing with. What

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Speaker 2: is the guaranteed what's the true guarantee.

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Speaker 3: On his contract? Is it fifty million? Is it two

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Speaker 3: hundred million? Right?

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't care what Trevor Lawrence makes per year

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Speaker 2: because that's not how NFL contracts are paid. It's about

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Speaker 2: guaranteed money and signing bonuses. Jordan loves, like whatever, fifty

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Speaker 2: million a year, he got a seventy five million dollar

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Speaker 2: signing bonus. So it's not like the way he's paid.

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Speaker 2: He got seventy five million dollars in one year. It's

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Speaker 2: not like he will get fifty next year. It's not

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Speaker 2: the way it works. So I think we get really

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Speaker 2: caught up in the numbers. It's like, do you want

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Speaker 2: to give him like a five year contract? Do you

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Speaker 2: want to give him like a Tua Tongua Iloah Jordan

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Speaker 2: Love contract because if I was Sam Donald, like, that's

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Speaker 2: what I would be in the mood for. Do you

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Speaker 2: think the Browns would put in a call to the

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Speaker 2: Vikings about JJ McCarthy. The Vikings are likely to give

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Speaker 2: Donald a contract based on how well he is performed,

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Speaker 2: and with him still being reasonably young, we could make

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Speaker 2: McCarthy the odd man out, I think. I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 2: I haven't really thought too much about twenty five with

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: Just assuming Sam Donald still on the team.

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Speaker 2: What I do believe though, is that if you're the Vikings,

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Speaker 2: you just keep JJ McCarthy around because part like his

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Speaker 2: value diminished. He tore his knee and then had to

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Speaker 2: have another surgery. So even if you really like JJ McCarthy,

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Speaker 2: he's been in the league, one of the years off,

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Speaker 2: his rookie contract is gone, and he had knee surgery twice.

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Speaker 2: So like I was thinking about this today actually in

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Speaker 2: the shower. It's crazy what your thoughts are when you're

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Speaker 2: just a daydreaming about football. Is I don't know if

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Speaker 2: they could get could they get a second round pick

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Speaker 2: for him? Like I don't think you would get a

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Speaker 2: first round pick for a guy who has not played

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Speaker 2: and who got injured year one, even if people really

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Speaker 2: liked him, because a lot changed since the draft. One

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Speaker 2: you just miss out on a year of the contract,

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Speaker 2: and two he's injured. So I would say that I

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Speaker 2: think he's on the I think they're both on the

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Speaker 2: team next year. I'd be stunned if they traded JJ.

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Speaker 3: McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: Stunned found you on the radio in twenty seventeen because

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Speaker 2: of the Ruben Foster pre draft hype and have been

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Speaker 2: a diehard listener ever since. Ruben Foster was the Alabama

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Speaker 2: linebacker who the forty nine Ers draft in the first

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Speaker 2: He got in trouble a couple of times and it

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Speaker 2: was a disaster. Very talented player. How would you relate

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Speaker 2: the Vikings and the Darnel situation of having JJ quote

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Speaker 2: unquote learning to the Niners? Would Jimmy and Lance? Obviously

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Speaker 2: Sam is light years better than Jimmy, but if Darnald

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Speaker 2: were to leave, they'd be in the headlines and likely regress.

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Speaker 2: The Niners got lucky that Brock bailed them out of

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Speaker 2: that conversation for a year.

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Speaker 3: And a half.

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Speaker 2: I think you bring up a decent parallel, right the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: I mean they're a game away from being the number

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Speaker 2: one seed, and if you're the number one seed, I

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Speaker 2: Championship game. So I think they're in a situation where

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Speaker 2: when you have a known quantity, anytime you go to

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Speaker 2: this unknown there is a huge amount of risk Because

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Speaker 2: now JJ had played at Michigan, Trey Lance played in

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Speaker 2: North Dakota State, So like, one guy is much more

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Speaker 2: equipped to coming to college or coming from college he

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Speaker 2: played for Jim Harbaugh to have success in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: but there is no guarantee that he's gonna have success

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Speaker 2: guy who was raw, who needed some work, and you

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Speaker 2: have a ready made competitive team. Like part of the

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Speaker 2: reason they are so good this year is Sam Donald's

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Speaker 2: explosive arm. Like part of the reason they are dominating

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Speaker 2: is he like throws two or three touchdowns a game

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Speaker 2: because they don't have like the eighty five Bears defense.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're good on defense, but look at their personnel.

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Speaker 2: So to me, a huge part of their success when

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Speaker 2: The thing with Jimmy is like it was easy to

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Speaker 2: You know, he's not even throwing like twenty five touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Sam Donald's gonna throw thirty six thirty seven touchdowns, And

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Speaker 2: it feels like that's a sustainable thing because Addison's in

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Speaker 2: a second year, justin Jefferson's under contract. You got Howkinson back,

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Speaker 2: Naylor's good. We know they're gonna have good running backs

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers started to diminish and he started butting heads

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Speaker 2: with the coach and the GM. So I was like,

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Speaker 2: you know what, fuck you, We're gonna go with Jordan.

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Speaker 2: And it was extremely risky, but it was like it

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Speaker 2: had run its course when they had decided to essentially

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Speaker 2: move on from Jimmy. It wasn't because Trey Lance was

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Speaker 2: better than Jimmy.

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Speaker 3: He was not.

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Speaker 2: There is no scenario on this planet where Trey Lance

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Speaker 3: So what did they do?

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Speaker 2: They told Jimmy Garoppolo, you're not coming back, which is

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Speaker 2: ironic because then he ended up coming back because they

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Speaker 2: couldn't trade him because he was injured, and Trey Lance

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Speaker 2: gets hurt in the second game, which the way it

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Speaker 2: was training, Trey Lance was gonna get benched, but Jimmy

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Speaker 2: was still around. It was one of the most bizarre

648
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: scenarios and situations I've ever seen in my entire life,

649
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: sports or non sport.

650
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: It was crazy.

651
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: But they got lucky that it played out that way,

652
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: because if he hadn't been there, they would have been screwed.

653
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: I doubt Perdy would have looked as good if Perdy

654
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: would have had to come in week two like Jimmy

655
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: did instead of coming in later in the season.

656
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 3: So I just think this is pretty easy.

657
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: You got JJ under contract, you're on this team. You

658
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: got Sam Darnold, who you can franchise or give a

659
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: long term contract. He's going to be on this team.

660
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: And if Sam ever wore to get hurt, you got

661
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: JJ as a backup. If JJ can pump up his

662
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: value and Sam can continue to dominate, you can flip

663
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: JJ like the Patriots once did with with Jimmy Garoppolo.

664
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: And that's part of the reason why you invest in

665
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: high level coaches. Because JJ McCarthy's value should improve, right,

666
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,719
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo, he started like a game and a half

667
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: when Tom Brady got suspended for the flake gate and

668
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: he got injured I think it was against the Dolphins

669
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: and he hurt his shoulder, and Jacobi played the.

670
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: Next couple games.

671
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: So the only thing anyone in the NFL had to

672
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: go off on Jimmy Garoppolo was preseason games and a

673
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: game and a half of NFL football, and the forty

674
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: nine ers gave him a high second round pick. So

675
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: it's like, I know you drafted him eleventh, but if

676
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: you use him as your backup quarterback for a couple

677
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: of years and then one day trade him for like

678
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: a second and a third round pick, that's pretty good value.

679
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 2: It's not the end of the world, especially with a quarterback.

680
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: There's no other position where you could draft and he

681
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: could really not play and then you could trade him

682
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: for a second and a third round pick. So he

683
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 2: still has a lot of value to the Vikings. God,

684
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 2: we get a lot of JJ sam dermal questions, this

685
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: is more about trading him. I just don't think you

686
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: trade him. Now. What's the point of trading him? Like

687
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 2: you have the asset under contract with you, you've done

688
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 2: some work, like you need a backup quarterback. You've already

689
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: paid him because he was a first round pick. Like,

690
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: my guess is, he's not making nothing. So his contract

691
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy signed a four year They gave him twenty

692
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: one million dollars and his signing bonus is twelve million dollars.

693
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: So the Vike he's paid in twelve million dollars and

694
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: he basically averages like like five six million dollars a year.

695
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: His cap hits are like three four, five six, So

696
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 2: it contract's not crazy.

697
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 3: You got a backup quarterback.

698
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 2: I don't think it's that crazy just to keep them.

699
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: I really don't.

700
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 2: And that's what I would imagine they end up doing.

701
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: Big Texans fan here, this team is incredibly confusing. They

702
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 2: have great players everywhere on the field and a coaching

703
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: staff that everyone was very high on before the season. Obviously,

704
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: Stroud's shoulder is hurt and can semi excuse the poor

705
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: accuracy of late, But what more does the team need

706
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 2: to do? Is it as simple as drafting and signing

707
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 2: offensive line help or bigger changes needed such as firing Slowing.

708
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: Would absolutely love them to get dayball if available. I'd

709
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: be a little surprised if they fire Slowik after one

710
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 2: kind of weird year. I mean just last year he

711
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: was having like the best rookie season for a quarterback

712
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: in my life, and now he's just the village idiot.

713
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: Now it has looked rough, and obviously he hasn't been

714
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 2: good this year, but I would say the offensive line,

715
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: the garden center spots are killing them. CJ's under duress

716
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: constantly and he's not playing well, So maybe you just

717
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: chalk this up. Everyone thinks you're gonna lose in the playoffs.

718
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: You got nothing to lose, Like, why don't you win

719
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 2: that game? It'd be crazy how much we would look

720
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: at the success of this season. If I told you

721
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 2: that they won a home playoff game and they're gonna

722
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: be an underdog in that game. I just don't think

723
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 2: everyone's gonna say they're just a lock to lose.

724
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: I don't know. Playoffs are weird.

725
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: What do you think should be the number one quarterback

726
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: taken in this draft?

727
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: Ward or Sanders?

728
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: As a Giants fan, I would take cam Ward over

729
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: Sanders any day of the week. I think one thing

730
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: that no one is discussing or the intangible that cam

731
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: Ward brings the table. Shadoor is a spoiled kid, and

732
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 2: I'm convinced that when he struggles, he will lash out

733
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: at the media and be a locker room cancer. On

734
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 2: the other hand, Ward is a natural born leader who

735
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: has risen to the occasion at every level and being

736
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: a zero star recruit out of high school, He's a

737
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: great kid and single handedly carried the Miami team to

738
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: ten wins. Not to mention, he has a better arm

739
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: and higher upside than Shador. What are your thoughts. I

740
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: think Chador is a pretty good player. I mean, I've

741
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 2: watched a lot of Colorado this year. Bet on him

742
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 2: a decent amount. I think he's pretty good. Cam Ward

743
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: has a better arm. Shador's arm is average for NFL standards.

744
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: Cam Ward has a high end arm. I think the

745
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: character stuff, you know, I just think the Buffalo situation,

746
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: like they're just such a polarizing I mean, I see

747
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: so many people on Instagram talking about this twenty year

748
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: old's girlfriend, and it's like, come on, guys, what are

749
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 2: we talking about? And maybe it'll turn out to be

750
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: right in a couple of years, but I think we're

751
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: over analyzing. Shador Sanders and Travis Hunter are treated like

752
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: NBA players, Like the microscope they're under is pretty crazy,

753
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: and I can't pretend like I haven't talked to buddies that, like,

754
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: I haven't heard bad things coming out. So I think

755
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: we overemphasize, like, yeah, there were some tweets last year

756
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: about a guy transferring away Dion Detta too, you know,

757
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: I mean, you're kind of getting You're kind of getting

758
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: to Dion now. The difference is Deon was one of

759
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 2: the great talents in the history of sports. Chadeur is

760
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: not that I've always kind of sneaky like Shiloh, but

761
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: I have a soft spot for hard hitting safeties, and

762
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: Shiloh will fuck you up if you come over the middle.

763
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: Some people call him dirty. I just call him a

764
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 2: football player. Again, I like, I've always enjoyed watching Shiloh,

765
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: but I think that I don't think that it's a lock.

766
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: I don't, by any means think it's a lock that

767
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: one of these quarterbacks go number one overall.

768
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 3: But I also don't think it's a good draft.

769
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 2: So now that I think about it, like, why wouldn't

770
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: they It's not like, you know, Miles Garrett or Trent

771
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: Williams or some like all time great pass rusher or

772
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 2: left tackles in this draft. Tony Boselli, you know, Orlando

773
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: pay something like that, that there's no like Bosa brother

774
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 2: or something. People always like, why do you say Bosa

775
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: not TJ Watt?

776
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 3: Well, TJ Watt went twenty seventh. It's funny.

777
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 2: I asked a buddy one time. I was watching a

778
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: Steeler game earlier this year, and I remember texting some

779
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 2: scouts and I was like, how did this guy got

780
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: the twenty seventh? They're like, well, he wasn't remotely this

781
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: good in college. And then I remember looking at TJ

782
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: like he was a tight end, kind of like JJ

783
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: changed positions. He really was a one year wonder. But

784
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 2: looking back, it's kind of crazy. Palmer here, big fan

785
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 2: of the pod and your takes. On your most recent

786
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: pod twelve twenty seven, twenty four, you mentioned how Mario

787
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: Cristobal was really good recruiter for Oregon and how big

788
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 2: brown bags of cash were being paid under the table

789
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: for players in college before nil. My question is about

790
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: Nick Saban in this phenomenon. I recently saw a couple

791
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 2: of clips on Instagram from the McFee show the first

792
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: game from College Game Day before the Notre Dame of

793
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: Indiana game, where Shan Gillis poke fun at Sabin for

794
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: bringing in talent with these so called bags of money,

795
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: to paraphrase which Nick obviously denied. Later, I saw Nick

796
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 2: Saban go on McAfee show and double down on his

797
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: claim the program never had any involvement under the table

798
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: transactions to recruit the best players to Alabama, creating value

799
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 2: for players with degrees.

800
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 3: Do you think this is true?

801
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: I think it's fucking laughable. Of course they were paying players,

802
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: so was every good program. I mean, this is college football.

803
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 2: If in college football and college basketball you try to

804
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: talk like that pre twenty twenty one and you were

805
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: a dominant program, you're just a blatant liar and listen

806
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 2: like you don't need to lie anymore. No one cares

807
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 2: that you were giving guys thirty forty. They weren't given

808
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: guys millions of dollars, but they were paying players. All

809
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 2: these programs were forever coach k paying players. There's nothing

810
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: wrong with it. Why are these guys so obsessed like

811
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: we don't care anymore? Cam Ward literally got paid to

812
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: play a Bowl game and then quit at halftime like

813
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: why it's like, we don't pay Like, now, here's the

814
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: thing where they have plausible deniability. They weren't the guys

815
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: handing him the money. You know, when you went to

816
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 2: play for one of these top ten basketball programs or

817
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: top ten football programs, they don't hand you know, the

818
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: head coach isn't handing you the briefcase of cash, but

819
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 2: you're getting the cash. Of course they were paying players.

820
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with it, but say been acting like

821
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: that is a little give me a fucking break. That's

822
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: what I appreciate with Belichick. Belichick is like I would

823
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 2: never work in college. And then the rules went out

824
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: the door. He's like, wait, we can just openly pay players.

825
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 3: I'm in.

826
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: So he was like we just created value. Yeah, you

827
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: did by helping them get better football while you were

828
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: paying them under the table. I think some of these

829
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: guys struggle because I mean I don't maybe he doesn't

830
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: want to get I don't even know who cares. None

831
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: of it matters, None of it matters. They're literally just

832
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: they're not supposed to pay to play now, supposed to

833
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: be nil, right, Like I get a marketing deal where

834
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: I'm literally just paying you cash for nothing. But this

835
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: notion that they John Wooden was paying players. I mean

836
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: they have like one of the biggest boosters in the

837
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 2: country in like the sixties and seventies. I think his

838
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: name was like Sam Walton, who was an LA guy.

839
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 2: I mean, there's never been a good program who is

840
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: consistently won in football or basketball that wasn't funneling money

841
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: to those players in some form or fashion. I remember

842
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 2: Rip Loud Dolsen is I worked for a guy, Rich Ellerson,

843
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: who was the coach at cal Pauly and he coached

844
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: at Arizona in the nineties, like Teddy Bruski, and you

845
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 2: know that they had some pretty good team teams at Arizona.

846
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: They were called Desert Swarm. Their defense was really good

847
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: and Ellerson, I think I'm pretty sure it was the

848
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator at the time. Dick Tomey was the head coach.

849
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: And this is the heyday of Arizona basketball, and it's

850
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 2: like Mike Bibbie, Miles Simon, bunch of dudes. I mean

851
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 2: they were like winning national championships and competing for national championships,

852
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: going to the Final four every year. And he walked

853
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: into a staff meeting one time, he's like, where'd all

854
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 2: those awesome cars in the parking lot come from? Turns

855
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: out as the basketball teams cars. This is like nineteen

856
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: ninety eight, and someone hit him like, hey, don't talk

857
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: about that, Saban acting like they were just like giving

858
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: the guys a meal plan. I mean, fuck out of here.

859
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 2: You can't let the days of just lying to our faces.

860
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 3: You could pull that off.

861
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: In the eighties the nineties, everything was just like you

862
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: could just lie through your teeth, like we've sniffed you

863
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 2: all out.

864
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 3: We know everything that's going on, and there's nothing wrong

865
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: with it.

866
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: The way some of these programs used to operate.

867
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 5: Hell, I've been told the way it's working in college

868
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 5: football right now is like there's above board and there's

869
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 5: below board in nil because it's like, hey, you want

870
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 5: five hundred thousand dollars, Well, if I give you five

871
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars.

872
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: In nil, you have to pay You have to pay

873
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: taxes on that five hundred thousand dollars ten ninety nine.

874
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: So hey, I get you five hundred thousand dollars, but

875
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: I'll get a couple hundred under the table. So guess what, untraceable,

876
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: you don't have to pay, but you're getting the same money.

877
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: You're actually taking home more because taxes, Uncle Sam the

878
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: Irs never knocking on your door. I just I'm just

879
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: so tired of all these people fucking lying through their

880
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 2: teeth and just thinking like, oh, yeah, he's just making

881
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 2: sure you came to Alabama because he was gonna teach

882
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: you how to hold the edge. No, you came to

883
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: Alabama because your program was sweet. You'd funnel them cash

884
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: and it was a win win for everybody.

885
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 3: I mean, give me a break, Bene fans.

886
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: Has I heard you on Colin question for the mailbag

887
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: with case locking up the one seed? Who do you

888
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 2: think Andy and Mahomes would rather see an arrowhead for

889
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 2: the conference final? I think they would one hundred rather

890
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: see Lamar Jackson. We witnessed what they did to Lamar

891
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 2: Jackson last year, So now I don't think if Lamar

892
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: is gonna play like he's been playing, I think the

893
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: GAP's much smaller last year. At the same time, they

894
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: were more fearful of Lamar of Josh Allen than Lamar Jackson.

895
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, like you're gonna

896
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 2: have to beat. You know, more than likely they're gonna

897
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 2: have to beat Herbert and Lamar Josh to go to

898
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: the super Bowl. That's what they're gonna have to do.

899
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: Love the show, Avid listener. Since there's aren't a lot

900
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: of top end quarterbacks, who is a sleeper to go

901
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: higher to a quarterback needy team? My pick is Kyle McCord.

902
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: Did Kyle McCord declare for the draft? Can't confirm nor

903
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: deny Kyle mccorr mum on NFL Draft, so he hasn't

904
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: officially announced.

905
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: I'll be honest.

906
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: I watched the Holiday Ball.

907
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 3: I was kind of blown away. I'm like, this guy

908
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 3: can slant.

909
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: Like Kyle McCord is below the dude in Indiana. I

910
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: would take Kyle McCord over Rourke. Yeah, this draft, it's

911
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 2: like Kyle McCord, Dylan Gabriel who's like five to eleven,

912
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart who I'm just not sure is that good,

913
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 2: Rourke who I just cannot take seriously, Quinn Yours who

914
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 2: might stay in college, Beck who has a torn UCL,

915
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 2: Jalen Milroe who might stay in college, Warden Sanders. This

916
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: quarterback class is fucking horrendous, Like hit is really bad.

917
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 2: Especially when you look at Caleb Williams starter, Jayden Daniels starter,

918
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 2: Drake May starter, bow Next starter, Michael Panick starter. And

919
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: it took Sam Darnold having like an MVP season for JJ. Now,

920
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: JJ was hurt, but you know what I mean. This

921
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: class is horrendous. I like the Kylevi MC pick. Okay,

922
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 2: last question, Saban accident. Like they we give them an

923
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: extra smoothie.

924
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 3: That's how we get them to come to Alabama.

925
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: Come on, man, this could be a question for the offseason.

926
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Speaker 2: As a huge fan of both college in the NFL,

927
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: I was curious to hear your thoughts around why we

928
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 2: see so many more fights with fans in the stands

929
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: in the NFL versus college I get not every college

930
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: football stadium serves alcohol, but I've been to night games

931
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 2: at LSU, OEU Bama, and several other stadiums that do

932
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 2: serve beer on top of the tailgate scene. I've seen

933
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 2: some fights at college games, but not as many as

934
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: I've seen at NFL games with fully grown men. You'd

935
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: think college games with young, drunk college kids would have

936
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 2: more fights, Yet I see way more fights at NFL

937
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 2: games in person and on social media with adults curious

938
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 2: to hear your thoughts. I don't really have a theory

939
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 2: on this one. Beside obviously, like you said, alcohol plays

940
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: a part in both your tailgating, you're drinking, you're amped.

941
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 3: Up, you know.

942
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 2: In the NFL, it's Sunday. I would imagine most people

943
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 2: that are brawling, you know, on Sunday, are going to

944
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: work the next day.

945
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 3: I do think.

946
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Speaker 2: There's if you look at most of the fights, they're

947
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: not happening in like luxury suites or the lower bowl.

948
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 2: They're happening at the you know, the upper bowl, so

949
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 2: it's just cheaper to get in, and you know, it's

950
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: a certain demo of a guy, you know, I just

951
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 2: think that I don't know if he's mad at the world.

952
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, what are you fucking fighting about, Especially

953
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: when you see people fighting over they're the same, like

954
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: they're on the same team, they're both wearing the jerseys.

955
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: But I think there's an economic aspect of this. I

956
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: would say pretty consistently they're the upper Bowl. I would

957
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: say pretty consistently, it just looks like they are beyond

958
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: fucking intoxicated and arguing about nothing. It's just pretty low

959
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 2: level morons fighting I can't imagine going to a game

960
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: and getting into a fight. I mean, honestly, I can't imagine.

961
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: And I don't know if I've seen that many and

962
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 2: I was going to Raider and forty nine er games

963
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 2: at the Coliseum and Candlestick. But like you, I mean,

964
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: I see a lot of them on social media, and

965
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: I think they all have a pretty consistent theme. Booze

966
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 2: guys kind of. I don't know, maybe they had a

967
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 2: fucking rough day, maybe they're just angry at the world.

968
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 2: Maybe they're amped up watching football.

969
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I.

970
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: Can't really relate to like paying money to go to

971
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: something then to get into a fight, especially in the quarters,

972
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 2: like you're in the upper bowl, there ain't that much

973
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 2: room to move. So yeah, I mean some of these

974
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 2: brawls too, where guys are like getting their nose shattered.

975
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: It's like, you guys are fucking idiots. What a loser? Listen.

976
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: And I hate calling fans losers because they're the heartbeat

977
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 2: of everything we do, especially what I do. Like if

978
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: you're going and getting into huge brawls, especially when you're

979
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: like rolling over seats and when women are there, like

980
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 2: it's like, what do you guys, what an awful look.

981
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 2: How does I don't quite understand how it happens, but

982
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: it pretty consistently happens.

983
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Speaker 3: Okay, audios, have a great day. Talk to you soon.

984
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Speaker 2: The volume