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Speaker 2: Ever been left waiting by the phone?

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Speaker 1: It's the Fread Show. Hey Ross, good morning, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. How are you?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Good morning? What's going on with this woman? Kelly?

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Speaker 2: We got to know how you met, about any dates

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Speaker 2: you've been on, and then where things are now, because

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Speaker 2: you know, you think you're being ghosted, which is why

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Speaker 2: you've called waiting by the phone.

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Speaker 1: So what's going on?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. It's a strange one. Yeah, we

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Speaker 4: I've met the shirl Kelly is she's cool. We you know,

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Speaker 4: we did the whole dating app thing and you know,

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Speaker 4: a message and like conversation was good, Like I thought

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Speaker 4: it was going well, and she did give me your

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Speaker 4: number and I figured you know, I asked, because you

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Speaker 4: know those massages to get lost and different, you know people,

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Speaker 4: and so I was like, all right, let's let's take

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Speaker 4: this off the app let's message.

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Speaker 1: So she gave me your number. We talked a little bit.

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Speaker 4: We you know, we're texting, and we were planning a

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Speaker 4: first date, and then just ghosted.

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Speaker 1: So you never went on the date, like you guys

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Speaker 1: ever even met.

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Speaker 4: No, but like we were planning it and everything the same. Fine,

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Speaker 4: And I mean I don't know, like if she wasn't interested,

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Speaker 4: why would she give me your number?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: Interesting? Interesting?

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Speaker 2: So you guys, Yeah, that is weird that you would

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Speaker 2: get to that point and then just the person would

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Speaker 2: just disappear. It's like, why why would they even bother

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Speaker 2: to communicate with you or write to your point, exchange

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Speaker 2: numbers or whatever. Why would you do that if you

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Speaker 2: have no intention of meeting somebody exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I'm just kind of like, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, that's strange, and I would want to know

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Speaker 2: what happened too. So let's play a song. Come back

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Speaker 2: into the second ross. We'll call Kelly. You'll be on

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Speaker 2: the phone at the same time, and the hope is

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Speaker 2: that we can straighten this out and then set you

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Speaker 2: up on another date that we paid for.

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Speaker 1: So good. Yeah, sure, hey, Ross, Yeah, all right, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Let's call Kelly. You met on one of the dating apps.

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Speaker 2: You got her number on the app, you switched to text,

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Speaker 2: and you guys were planning a date, talking about where

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Speaker 2: to go and when, and then she disappeared and you

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Speaker 2: have not heard a word from her. Sense so you

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Speaker 2: have her number, but now she's ignoring you. I mean,

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Speaker 2: she shouldn't want to see you. Why did she give

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Speaker 2: you her number? That's weird exactly. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And like I said, the conversation was cool, like there

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Speaker 4: was never I look back at all the text and everything.

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Speaker 4: Don't think I said anything wrong.

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Speaker 2: So I start planning a date and did not go

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Speaker 2: on and it's strange. All right, let's call Kelly now,

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Speaker 2: good luck?

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Speaker 1: Ross, Thanks?

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, this is Kelly. Yeah, Hey Kelly, good morning.

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Speaker 2: My name is Fred. I'm calling from the Fred Show,

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Speaker 2: the Morning radio show. The whole crew is here, and

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Speaker 2: I have to tell you that we are on the

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Speaker 2: radio right now and I would need your permission to

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Speaker 2: continue with the call. Can which that for just a second?

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Speaker 2: Would you mind?

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Speaker 1: Sorry?

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Speaker 5: What is this about?

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Speaker 2: I'll take that as a yes. So we're calling on

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Speaker 2: behalf of a dude name Ross. I guess you matched

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Speaker 2: with this guy on a dating app, and then you

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Speaker 2: exchange numbers and we're talking about a date. Do you

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Speaker 2: remember this whole process?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well what happened because Ross reached out to us

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Speaker 2: and said that you guys, I guess matched, and we're

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Speaker 2: chatting and then he got your number and then you

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Speaker 2: were on text talking about a date, you were planning

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Speaker 2: a date, and then you disappeared. So you kind of

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Speaker 2: ghosted him before you ever met, it seems like, and

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Speaker 2: he's curious and we're all curious kind of as to

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Speaker 2: why what happened.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, So basically, yeah, I mean he seemed like

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Speaker 5: a great guy to me, but after a.

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Speaker 3: Few days, I just I realized he's just a lot.

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Speaker 5: Like there's no other way to put it.

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Speaker 1: He's just too much for me. What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: How can you know that via text?

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Speaker 2: Like I can see if you met someone and their

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Speaker 2: personality was over the top, or you know, you weren't vibing,

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Speaker 2: there was no in person chemistry, But how do you

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Speaker 2: know he's too much over text?

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Speaker 1: Totally, totally.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so I I did give him my number

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Speaker 3: because you know, he you know, it's it's just much

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Speaker 1: Off the app.

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Speaker 3: And I literally, like the first night after I gave

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Speaker 3: him my number, I looked at my phone and I

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Speaker 3: saw he was calling.

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Speaker 1: Me like around nine pm.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, that's a little that's a little

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Speaker 3: bit much.

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Speaker 1: Call which.

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Speaker 5: Stranger, you know, Like I don't, so I answered, I

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Speaker 5: don't even know why. And he was like, you know, just.

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Speaker 3: Calling this say good night, which okay, I I thought

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Speaker 5: Like it was odd for him to call.

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Speaker 3: Me in the first place, right, let alone at nine

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Speaker 3: pm just to say good night, and like at this

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Speaker 3: point we're still strangers.

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Speaker 5: But you know, I let it go and I was like,

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, So but then he proceeded to call

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Speaker 5: Until Friday, until the day before the date.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he wanted to you had a good night,

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Speaker 2: you know, like he did, you know, he wanted to

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Speaker 2: nine o'clock phone call is so scary, especially from a

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Speaker 5: Jury, and five nights in a row, like that's really extra.

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Speaker 5: So I honestly the fifth time I let it go

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Speaker 5: to voicemail and I blocked him because I was just like, oh.

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Speaker 3: This is the foot we're getting.

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Speaker 5: Off, you know, like this is not right.

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Speaker 2: There's nobody in my life who wants me to have

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Speaker 2: that good of a night, like under any circumstances.

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Speaker 1: Five days in a row. I kind of love it.

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Speaker 1: And I only say that nightly phone call from someone

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Speaker 6: Met, well, it didn't go bad yet with the date

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Speaker 6: didn't happen. So my only thing is like I think

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Speaker 6: maybe he was excited, but also like we we don't

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Speaker 6: call enough anymore. I feel like in there first dating,

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Speaker 6: I don't think.

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Speaker 1: We call enough. My husband who I married, You did.

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Speaker 2: Not call your husband who you're married to supposed to be? Yes, okay,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to be clear on which husband we were

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Speaker 2: talking about, the one that you're married to the day.

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Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, you know you did.

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Speaker 1: When did this happen? I have a married woman and

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Speaker 1: her husband.

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Speaker 6: Still feel like when we first started dating, he did

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Speaker 6: not call, and I.

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Speaker 1: Didn't like that. If you would have called prior to

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Speaker 1: the day. I think that'd be actually kind of cute.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it was too much communication for you too

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Speaker 2: early on? It was like, what did it feel like

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Speaker 2: a little clingy maybe?

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Speaker 3: Or yeah, it felt like yeah over the top.

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Speaker 2: Cleany, Yeah, let me bring Ross in because there should

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Speaker 2: be no surprise you that Ross is on the call.

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Speaker 2: He wanted to see if we were having a good morning.

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Speaker 2: So Ross, you get your phone number, and you just

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Speaker 2: think like, Okay, that's that's my cue to start calling,

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Speaker 2: because I think a lot of people in this day

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Speaker 2: before you call, even if you know them, like hey

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Speaker 2: you free can we chat? You know, because people are

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Speaker 2: as much anymore.

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Speaker 1: But you didn't do that.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean, Dann, sorry, if I was interested.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've heard so much worse, like this is

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Speaker 2: not the worst thing. You could not have answered the phone, Kelly.

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Speaker 2: I suppose if you didn't want to talk to him,

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Speaker 2: you could have just let her go to voicemail and

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Speaker 2: maybe established a boundary that way. But the dude, it's

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Speaker 2: hard for me not to see his side because it

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Speaker 2: might have been too much. But but how many men

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Speaker 2: on the dating apps, myself included, have done too little.

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Speaker 5: I mean that's fair, but like, I think.

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Speaker 3: There's definitely a lot of middle ground between calling five

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Speaker 5: Have been okay, this to be.

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Speaker 2: Like yes, I mean, I suppose Kelly, you could have said, hey,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm not a phone talker or not answered

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Speaker 2: the phone. And I think after maybe a couple of

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Speaker 2: have gotten it.

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Speaker 1: It's not as though he was calling you.

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Speaker 2: Over and over and over and over again like a

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Speaker 2: in a single setting until you picked up. You know,

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Speaker 2: he was calling you at the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: Like I understand why that's not for everybody, but I

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Speaker 2: mean we've heard so much work, you know.

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Speaker 4: You know, you know, women always talk about all I

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Speaker 4: want a gentleman. I want someone, you know, I want

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Speaker 4: a man who's gonna who's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Proactive and do more and make.

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Speaker 4: And so I'm doing that, I'm calling and that's a

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Speaker 4: turn off. Then all right, cool, I'll find someone that

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Speaker 4: will like come.

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Speaker 3: On, I just I mean, listen, like I I guess

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Speaker 3: I appreciate like the sentiment, but like being a gentleman

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean you call someone you just met late at

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Speaker 3: night multiple days in a row. You know, Like again,

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Speaker 3: one instance chat would have been fine, but like five

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Speaker 3: times is not cool for me, Like especially like you

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Speaker 3: don't know what it's like as a woman to just

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Speaker 3: like receive calls from you know, it's just like it

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Speaker 3: instantly puts you in this like scary.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Like I don't know what something. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm scary, I think might. I mean, I'm not here

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Speaker 2: to tell you how to feel. But I've had people

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Speaker 2: before say, like when I get their phone number before

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Speaker 2: I meet him, Hey do you want to you want

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Speaker 2: we meet, like i'd rather or hey, I'm not going

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Speaker 2: then I'll give you my number and then we can

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Speaker 2: go from there. I just think if this is something

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Speaker 2: I think if you had said something to him like hey,

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Speaker 2: I'd rather not talk till the date or I'm not

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Speaker 2: or whatever, and then he keeps calling, Well, then he's

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Speaker 2: then I think he's he's gone, you know, he's broken

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Speaker 2: a boundary. But you didn't say that, so I think

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Speaker 2: it's hard for me to to not think maybe he's

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Speaker 2: the time, I wish the guy would try harder, except

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Speaker 2: in this case, you wish he hadn't tried hard, which

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Speaker 2: is kind of tough for a guy to know when

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Speaker 2: he's not supposed to try hard.

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Speaker 3: I just didn't want to be I didn't want him

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Speaker 3: to misconstrue me as being rude, you know, and like

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Speaker 3: I wanted us to start off on the right foot

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Speaker 3: and like give him the benefit of the doubt. But

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Speaker 3: I also like, if I'm going to date someone, I

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Speaker 3: want them to like know without asking that calling somebody

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Speaker 3: five nights in a row when we're essentially strangers it's

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Speaker 3: too much.

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Speaker 5: That should just be something that way, you should know.

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Speaker 4: She didn't want to be concerned as rude, so you

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Speaker 4: just go.

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Speaker 2: See come on, yeah, I see aspects of both sides here,

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Speaker 2: but look, I'll ask the question Kelly, do you want to,

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Speaker 2: you know, hit reset here? Maybe and and Ross won't

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Speaker 2: call you until the date. You guys can go on

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Speaker 2: the date and see if it works out. I mean,

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Speaker 2: try or no?

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Speaker 3: I think that we're too far gone at this point.

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Speaker 1: Too far gone. She want a man that don't talk

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Speaker 1: to her at all, and I understand, well, but he.

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Speaker 2: Didn't talk enough. It's probably not going to be great.

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Speaker 2: So he needs to talk to right him ount but not.

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Speaker 1: Only talk when I talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, understood, understood, Yeah I got him. Hey, Ross, look,

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're a bad guy. I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: but I can also see the mixed message, or I

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Speaker 2: can see why you were where you were thinking and

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Speaker 2: you were drying. And I'm sorry I didn't work out,

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Speaker 2: but I wish you guys both the best at luck