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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning Everybody's DJ Envy Charlamagne de goud

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Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. We also have Laura l Rossa,

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Speaker 2: which is our guest host. We got a special guest

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Speaker 2: in the building. We have missed me and Jay Welcome.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, How are you guys?

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Speaker 3: How are you feeling? What's happening?

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling pretty blessed.

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Speaker 3: Good, good good.

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Speaker 2: If you don't know who Mia Jay is, of course

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Speaker 2: she's Young Dol's fiance also the mother of his children.

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Speaker 2: And I just want to say thank you because last

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Speaker 2: year we went on this, well this year we went

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Speaker 2: on a huge car show tour and you allow me

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Speaker 2: to share some of Young Dolph's works with the world

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Speaker 2: cars and artifacts and jewelry, and it was just just

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Speaker 2: an amazing show. So I just want to say thank

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Speaker 2: you for allowing us to do that and show that

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Speaker 2: to the world.

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Speaker 4: For sure, thank you for even inviting us and thinking

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Speaker 4: of us to collaborate together.

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Speaker 2: No, I think it was a great collaboration. I just

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Speaker 2: want to say thank you for that.

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Speaker 5: And I love your Black Men Deserve to Grow Old movement.

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Speaker 5: Help tell people what that is, so that movement. It

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Speaker 5: started off as a campaign.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I lost my brother in twenty twenty two gun violence.

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Speaker 4: He was an honest working man, had a car dealership.

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Speaker 4: One of his customers took his life. And after that happened,

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Speaker 4: it really devastated me. Like we were three years apart.

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Speaker 4: If you see my children, like just how they interact

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Speaker 4: and gauge, that was me and my brother. So I

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Speaker 4: was just you know, like I couldn't believe that somebody

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Speaker 4: would take his life so frivolously, and so it prompted

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Speaker 4: me to start, you know. And then I also was

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Speaker 4: talking to a girl I went to high school with

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Speaker 4: and people that were around me, like, oh, my brother.

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Speaker 1: Got killed two and the guy who did it, he

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Speaker 1: was out on bond.

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Speaker 4: He was a facing attempted murder and he took my

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Speaker 4: brother life in the process. And it was just happening

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Speaker 4: so much.

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Speaker 1: And we were just talking about like black man deserved

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Speaker 1: to grow.

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Speaker 4: Oh, like that is so messed up, that like it's

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Speaker 4: so risky, the odds be stacked against black man like

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Speaker 4: they are. And so I started it as a campaign

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Speaker 4: just to raise money for a few the family that

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Speaker 4: I were talking to, like the different people who were

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Speaker 4: connected to me that had experienced laws as well as

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Speaker 4: my sister in law, just to be able to help.

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Speaker 4: And I wanted to raise awareness, like y'all this intraracial

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Speaker 4: crime problem that we have, you know, where we're just

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Speaker 4: taking each other's lives real senselessly. The love is lacking.

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Speaker 4: We need to do something about it. So I started

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Speaker 4: it as a campaign in twenty twenty one, and then

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Speaker 4: like three months later, Dolf was taken the same type

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Speaker 4: of way, like just violently, prematurely, without a It's like

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Speaker 4: reason wise, it's like it's not a good reason for

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Speaker 4: their families and communities and stuff. And so it just

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Speaker 4: after his death, it just amplified people listen more. I

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Speaker 4: think the message resonated more like dang, you were talking

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Speaker 4: about that and then it happened to you even closer

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Speaker 4: than it did before. So that's black man deserve to

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Speaker 4: grow oh to a call of action and a message

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Speaker 4: that's meant to be spread within the black community first

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Speaker 4: and foremost that we need to do better amongst one

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Speaker 4: another because we taken fathers from families, like mentors from

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Speaker 1: We need to do something about it.

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Speaker 2: How were you holding up? I mean it's I mean

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Speaker 2: it must I must. You must feel it every time

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Speaker 2: there's a court case, every time you hear the music.

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Speaker 2: So how are you doing so?

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Speaker 1: For sure? I mean I feel it.

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Speaker 4: It's like a I relive, I relive my life, you know,

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Speaker 4: like over and over again, like that particular day, the

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Speaker 4: taking of in so many different types of ways. And

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Speaker 4: to be honest with you, the question was asked when

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Speaker 4: we were here, like how do you maintain your strength?

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Speaker 4: I'd be like, man from God, it's no other, it's

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Speaker 4: no other. And I know, as cliche as that may

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Speaker 4: get how cliche that may sound, but it's like I

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Speaker 4: really don't have a true answer outside of that, because

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Speaker 4: me using my voice to advocate for the people I

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Speaker 4: it's not just for them, it's for our whole community,

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Speaker 4: because this could happen to anybody's family, brother, husband, fiance, whoever.

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Speaker 1: And it's like it's heavy, but the burden feels.

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Speaker 4: Very light, and I can't quite explain with that why

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Speaker 4: other than like it gotta be God. You know, he

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Speaker 4: gave me this, He knew when he created me that

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Speaker 4: I was gonna be carrying out this task. I didn't,

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Speaker 4: you know, you couldn't have told me November seventeenth that

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Speaker 4: this was something I was going to have to carry

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Speaker 4: and so for me to be able to stand up,

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Speaker 4: for me to be able to hear his music, all

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Speaker 4: it does is like really feel me when I hear

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Speaker 4: like his interviews. I didn't listen to him like that

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Speaker 4: when he was here because I was too busy being

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Speaker 4: a mom and taking care of the family and doing things,

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Speaker 4: and I just couldn't keep up with everything he had

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Speaker 4: feel like he's giving me messages or I take them

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Speaker 4: as messages of encouragement and just like keeping me going.

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Speaker 4: And you know, like I don't know, i'd be thankful

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Speaker 4: that he has so much on Wax.

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Speaker 3: You know, I wonder about that.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't think you have a truly heal

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Speaker 5: from the tape of trauma you experience, but when you

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Speaker 5: constantly see you know, his interviews or you know videos,

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Speaker 5: because you know, I feel like I'm always seeing off

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Speaker 3: Is that that help or her?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like it helps because it's it's peace.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: He brought peace in my life like that. That life

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Speaker 4: Spent with him, it was a beautiful time in my life,

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Speaker 4: even though in the thick of it, I'm gonna be honest,

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Speaker 4: you know, you go through so much with people, but

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Speaker 4: the good definitely always outweigh the bad. And it's like

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Speaker 4: when I reflect on who he was to me, it's

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Speaker 4: like I smile, Like it's like I hear his laugh

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Speaker 4: doa It's like I feel good to hear him, see him.

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Speaker 1: I smile. You know.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I could shed tears, but they're not always tears

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Speaker 4: of sorrow. It's because I've now accepted that we're only

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Speaker 4: ain't meant to be here forever. I all gotta check

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Speaker 1: But I love hearing him and seeing him.

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Speaker 2: How did y'all meet?

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Speaker 4: We met So I was in college in Memphis and

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Speaker 4: my roommate at the time, she was like, it's a

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Speaker 4: guy I want to introduce you to. She was friends

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Speaker 4: with one of his friends, and I'm like, listen, anybody

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Speaker 4: that's associated with Homeboys, birds of I'm straight?

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Speaker 1: No, And she was like, he can he rap?

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Speaker 4: And I listened to the music. I wasn't into rap

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Speaker 4: at that time in my life at all. I was

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Speaker 4: listening to like neo so so I have a background

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Speaker 4: in like music, but like classical jazz, neo, soul, gospel,

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Speaker 4: all of that, right, Jillott, all of that, that's my energy.

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Speaker 1: That is really my energy always has been.

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Speaker 4: So when she would play him, I'm like, listen, I'm straight,

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Speaker 4: Like I'm straight, But once I actually met him, she

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Speaker 4: he was really too cool for school for me. Like

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Speaker 4: we met at the mall finally and he like put

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Speaker 1: On my phone. Look like boy, like you too cool

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Speaker 4: We just it was just a real easy going like

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Speaker 1: And when he spoke and when we talked and when

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Speaker 1: we you know, just kicked it, I was like, dang, he.

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Speaker 4: Really is filled with some substance, like he's very intelligent

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Speaker 4: It was those character traits that really attracted me to him,

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Speaker 4: and after a long time I was like I don't.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I fell in love with him because he

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Speaker 4: was like different than what the eye just saw. You know,

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Speaker 4: when you talk about like the interviews that you watch

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Speaker 4: with what's like one of your go to things or

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Speaker 4: like messages that he has out in the world. To

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Speaker 4: be honest, it's really one of his songs. The one

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Speaker 4: of the songs when I really my go to is

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Speaker 4: like this song called you Got It with Vito, and

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Speaker 4: I feel like he talking to me. I mean when

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Speaker 1: But it's like.

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Speaker 4: This, you know, like baby you got it? You look

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Speaker 4: like a god, you got me? Like the worst that

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Speaker 4: like to find another one like you I doubt it,

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Speaker 4: you know, just all of these different types of things,

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Speaker 4: like it's girlless your world. They can't do nothing about it,

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Speaker 4: Like it's something that breathes life into me, like just

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Speaker 4: proud of you just for keeping going.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm seeing you speak out about the criminal

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Speaker 5: case and you said that you've had some frustrations, Like

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Speaker 5: you've been advocating for a fair trial.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean when you say a fair trial?

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Speaker 4: So it's a lot of things. It's a lot of

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Speaker 4: things obviously I can't say. But the thing is is

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Speaker 4: that you know, each victim, they have Victims of Victims

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Speaker 4: Bill of Rights right, and you're supposed to communicate with them,

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Speaker 4: you're supposed to update them. It's been things that like

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Speaker 4: I've been updated via the media, you know, and it's

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Speaker 4: just a form of disrespect that I felt like why

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Speaker 4: should I get on the internet and see anything there first,

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Speaker 4: you know, And I just feel like the courtesy let

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Speaker 4: us know. It's been things that, you know, just the

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Speaker 4: way I feel like the family was being handled, just

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Speaker 4: as when.

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Speaker 1: They do give us updates and we're like, oh, we

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Speaker 4: You know that that don't sound kind of right, like

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Speaker 4: a low bond like that, and it's like, well, this

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Speaker 4: is what we're doing. And I've talked to other people,

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Speaker 4: consulting with other attorneys and US former US attorneys and.

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Speaker 1: They're like, well, you know, your voice should be heard.

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Speaker 4: Like, if it's something that you guys are not really liking,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't sit well. Like have they tried to, you know,

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Speaker 4: talk to you guys about meeting in a better common

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Speaker 4: ground or presenting different types of terms.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, no, it's pretty much like this is what

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Speaker 1: it is. You like it, this is what we're doing.

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Speaker 4: And you know, it's a U, it's a it's a state,

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Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on Memphis? How do you feel about Memphis,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no for sure, and my brother because my brother

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Speaker 1: But it's very bittersweet, is it true?

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Speaker 1: But it's basically how it happened.

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Speaker 4: But he's a season judge, you know, very season of

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Speaker 5: So I am shocked one of that Definis got bond

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Speaker 4: You just have to trust so much right now and

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Speaker 4: It's like the trust so much. That's where that's why

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Speaker 5: You know how much of it it's too much to

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Speaker 3: Want to know the why and the who and the what.

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Speaker 4: I want to know the why and the who. I

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Speaker 4: want to know why, because I need that type of understanding,

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Speaker 4: like why would you you know, what was so severe

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Speaker 1: You know, Like I just wanted I need to know the.

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Speaker 2: Facts and how are your kids doing?

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Speaker 4: been presented, I may have an opinion about it, but

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00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,600
Speaker 4: ultimately nobody, even the stuff that's been presented, nobody truly knows,

439
00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:01,520
Speaker 4: do you have.

440
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,000
Speaker 3: Any concerns that justice won't be served.

441
00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:05,880
Speaker 1: I don't.

442
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,000
Speaker 4: I don't have that cause I just I really really

443
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,919
Speaker 4: stay a firm stand, real firm that it will. And

444
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,280
Speaker 4: I don't even want to start to allow myself to

445
00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,399
Speaker 4: diverge into different ways of thinking that it won't, Like

446
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:20,000
Speaker 4: I don't.

447
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:20,920
Speaker 1: Even want that.

448
00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,760
Speaker 4: That's because that's a negativity to me, Like that ain't

449
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 4: nothing but a negative thought. And I can't even let

450
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,639
Speaker 4: that just enter inside of me or you know, like

451
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,720
Speaker 4: take over me or even be a thought like I

452
00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,359
Speaker 4: gotta have positive thoughts and justice will be served, you know?

453
00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,359
Speaker 2: Can you break down mind frame early on?

454
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:36,560
Speaker 4: Right?

455
00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 2: And the reason I ask is before the Breakfast Club,

456
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,160
Speaker 2: it's sixteen seventeen years ago. Doff always had a mind

457
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 2: frame of what he wanted to do business wise, right,

458
00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,440
Speaker 2: He never signed to a major. He didn't want to

459
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,160
Speaker 2: sign to a major. Everything was independent.

460
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:50,239
Speaker 3: You know.

461
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 2: Most of that comes from of course, you're queen, you're

462
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,880
Speaker 2: having conversations late at night, So explain that mind frame

463
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 2: of where it came from and what was some of

464
00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:57,680
Speaker 2: the thought process back then.

465
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,639
Speaker 1: Minds are his both so I think Doff like he just.

466
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 4: Really believed in ownership he did, and I think that

467
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:07,880
Speaker 4: ultimately he.

468
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,879
Speaker 1: I don't know, Doff almost like he used to.

469
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,439
Speaker 4: Always say like he didn't think he was gonna be

470
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 4: there long, like he was gonna live long, right, And.

471
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,639
Speaker 1: He used to say that because he felt like that.

472
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,120
Speaker 4: It was so many he has so many near death experiences,

473
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 4: Like I used to be like, you like a cat

474
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 4: O nine lives, Like literally I'm talking about before any

475
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 4: of the ones that we know about publicly. I'm talking

476
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 4: about car accidents to all type of stuff.

477
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:31,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

478
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 4: And he is like every time he made a new year,

479
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,920
Speaker 4: you know, he was just like I'm just thankful. I'm

480
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 4: grateful to be here. But I think that he wanted

481
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 4: to leave something behind. He wanted to do something for

482
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 4: his family that, you know, like to just set them up.

483
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 4: And I think ownership in his mind, like what he

484
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,679
Speaker 4: knew about it and what he was learning about it,

485
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,880
Speaker 4: Like if I don't own it, you know what I'm saying,

486
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,199
Speaker 4: what can I really pass down like that, you know,

487
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 4: even at some point of the physicles. So I think

488
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,119
Speaker 4: it was a lot of that, and it was that determination,

489
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 4: like I want to do something for my family within

490
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 4: my lifetime I want to set my family up in

491
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 4: a way that you know, it'd account for generations, like

492
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,199
Speaker 4: cause he would talk about generational and I was like,

493
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 4: you know, when we would have those conversations, I was like, yeah,

494
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 4: when I was in school, I'm a finance major. I

495
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,919
Speaker 4: was like, I always wanted to, you know, set up

496
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 4: generational wealth, but they ain't teach me about that in school, right,

497
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 4: And so we would talk about it and I was like, yeah.

498
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 1: It was like I was there with him, but I

499
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 1: ain't gonna even be I'm gonna be real with you.

500
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 4: Like even me at that time, a lot of conversations

501
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 4: like I would have them with them, but I didn't

502
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 4: understand what that looked like to even build it, even

503
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 4: the type of ownership. I didn't understand what all that

504
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 4: meant and looked like. And now that he's gone, it's like, oh,

505
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 4: that's what are you talking about? I see now, you know.

506
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 4: And so, but he was just like light years ahead

507
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 4: and I just looking back when we would have those conversations,

508
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 4: y'all'm gonna be there boo, yeah, generational wealth us. You know,

509
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 4: the saying I'm there with you what you need me

510
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 4: to do. But I didn't really understand his I didn't.

511
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:54,880
Speaker 4: I didn't understand at that time.

512
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 3: Is it true he owned over one hundred properties?

513
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 4: Insis Goff owned property not just in Memphis, but he

514
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 4: owns properties just like across.

515
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: The you know, just the Nate like the country or whatever.

516
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 1: So it's not just in Memphis.

517
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 4: And he did do a lot of investing in the

518
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 4: right areas, you know, like he he would just reinvest

519
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 4: his money really wisely, you know, and different types of

520
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 4: adventures and things like that. So he definitely was, just

521
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 4: like I said, just very committed to establishing you know,

522
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 4: just like I said the bombstones for generational wealth. Yeah,

523
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 4: thank god, thank god, thank god. Like we are what's

524
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 4: your day to day like now? Like as a mom

525
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 4: as a business owner? I think you know, we talked

526
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 4: to you a lot about like golf, but like what

527
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 4: what what are you like on a day to day

528
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 4: as a business woman because of all of that that

529
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 4: you got to watch and be a part of. Man

530
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 4: like I'm gonna say, running around with a chicken, like

531
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 4: a chicken with my head cut off and not like

532
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 4: seriously because it really everything works its way out. But

533
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 4: you know it's like I'm taking on me daddy, business, Like,

534
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 4: I have so much more responsibility than when he was here, right, And.

535
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: It's just like I had to take off multiple hats.

536
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 4: So I start off the day I'm mommy, you know

537
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, making sure lunches get out, all of

538
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 4: the same stuff I used to do. Lunches get out,

539
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 4: breakfast gets made, kids get out to school. Then I'm

540
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 4: working on various parts of my business, the advocacy part

541
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 4: of my business, trying to actually, like you know, y'all,

542
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 4: to make money.

543
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: To keep the business sustaining itself and stuff like that.

544
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 4: So that part of it, leading a team doing that,

545
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 4: having to cut that off clean, like you know. So

546
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 4: when my kids come home, they have me back, and

547
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 4: that's such a I can say. When he was here,

548
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 4: he didn't want me to work at all. Like anything

549
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 4: that I was doing at that time in his life.

550
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,239
Speaker 4: He probably was like, you're getting on my nerves. Can

551
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 4: you just be in the kitchen cook us some good meals.

552
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: Make a smoothie.

553
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 4: I don't know y'all had any one time he's like,

554
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 4: can you make me a smoothie? But just doing all

555
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 4: of these things, keeping the family together, that was my priority,

556
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 4: and you know, the only way that he bought into

557
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 4: it was that I used to be like, let me

558
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 4: do my chores first and then I.

559
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: Go do my business.

560
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 4: Right, So now that's the same mindset that I have, like, Okay,

561
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 4: let me do my chores. My chores is being there

562
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 4: for my kids, doing homework, all of that stuff. Once

563
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 4: that's done, then you can do whatever you want to

564
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,239
Speaker 4: do business wise. And that's kind of I'm juggling that

565
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 4: and it becomes very chaotic and a lot, but I'm

566
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 4: getting through it.

567
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: I'm getting through it.

568
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 3: Were y'all planning the wedding, we.

569
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 4: Weren't like so we we were in that like listen,

570
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 4: we were just we had just told our therapists or whatever,

571
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 4: like we're ready to start doing Premier. We were doing

572
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 4: therapy and it was I would recommend that to anybody.

573
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,959
Speaker 4: If you want to break stuff of wanting to like

574
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 4: walk away or anything within your relationship, go to therapy first.

575
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: And we had a faith based therapist and.

576
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 4: That really helped us a lot, because that's really where

577
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 4: relationships starts or whatever. And it started to I could

578
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,959
Speaker 4: even see the changes in him, like with our like

579
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 4: the what is the duty of a husband? And you know,

580
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 4: like the you're the leader of the household, and so

581
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 4: a lot of things, like when she would put things

582
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 4: in certain time ways, he was grasping it.

583
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: He was changing.

584
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 4: I could see how he was dealing with me and

585
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,479
Speaker 4: me too, what's the duties of a wife? And so

586
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 4: we got to a point where we was like, we

587
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 4: cannot wait to like celebrate this moment because we'd come

588
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 4: a long way. And so she had just sent me,

589
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 4: like on November fifteenth, she had just sent me to

590
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 4: questions for the Premieral Counseling and I was like, okay,

591
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 4: well he comes back from out of town.

592
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: He had left that Monday. Let's see.

593
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 4: I think that was the same day that he left

594
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 4: to go to Memphis. Was the day she sent it

595
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 4: to me. And I was like, okay, our sessions was

596
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 4: on Wednesday. I was like, he gonna be out of town,

597
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 4: but once he comes back, we're gonna get on so

598
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 4: we can start doing this. And one of my girlfriends

599
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 4: was planning like a big party of future actually, and

600
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 4: I was like, as soon as you get done.

601
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: She was a wedding planner.

602
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 4: I was like, as soon as you get done with that,

603
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 4: we're gonna send our a little deposit and get started

604
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 4: and it's gonna it was gonna be a surprise wedding.

605
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: We didn't want.

606
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 4: We wanted people to show up for my birthday and

607
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 4: they thought they was coming to like a ball, a

608
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 4: gala or whatever, and we were gonna get married. And

609
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 4: he wanted his parents to have their vows renewed there.

610
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 4: And that's where we were in the planning phase of things.

611
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 4: It was like, we're ready to celebrate how far we've come,

612
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 4: and that that that Wednesday came and it was like

613
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 4: you could have never paid me to believe that we

614
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 4: wasn't going to have a chance to dive in like

615
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 4: the questions. I was like, these questions good, Like I

616
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 4: cannot wait to go into therapy with him with these

617
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 4: and we just never made it there, never.

618
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: Made it there.

619
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Speaker 5: I'm so sorry that you got to go through any

620
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 5: of this. You know, that's why your organization, your movement

621
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 5: is so important that you even just putting that into

622
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 5: the universe. Black men deserve to grow old. Yes we

623
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 5: do black women as well, but yes, black men definitely,

624
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 5: you know. So it's just yeah, man, I just I'm

625
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 5: sending you healing energy always.

626
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I really do.

627
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: We appreciate you for joining us.

628
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 3: How can people find moment and everything?

629
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: The future is to amplify this message, to continue to

630
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 4: create dope products, like I look at this like anything

631
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 4: to say black men deserve to grow old. Like when

632
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 4: people wear you're like a walking billboard, like you're spreading

633
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 4: a message, like when from one black man to another

634
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 4: wearing it. It's like at this point, this is like

635
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 4: a piece, like you know, like a sign of piece,

636
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 4: like bro, I'm not coming for you, like I'm with you,

637
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 4: Like you deserve a girl. Oh I deserve a girl. Oh,

638
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 4: it's embodying love for one another. You don't got to

639
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 4: know somebody to have love for them to just have like, man,

640
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 4: I want to see you make it home to your family,

641
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 4: just like I want to make it to mine. That's

642
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 4: the message that I want to kind of just be

643
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 4: resonating as you see person a person a person. I

644
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 4: want this to be something that's global, like people are

645
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 4: walking across just different areas and stuff like that and

646
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 4: seeing this message.

647
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: And the thing is is not to say that nobody

648
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: else deserved a girl.

649
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 4: Oh we all do you know, but the odds stacked

650
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 4: the good up against a black man's life, not even

651
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 4: as much as a black woman, but a black man

652
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 4: like you walk out your door in the morning, you're

653
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 4: just trying to provide a living or your family. It

654
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 4: can come from a police trying to you know what

655
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 4: I'm saying, think that you're a thug, or you doing.

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Speaker 1: Something you wasn't supposed to be doing and your life

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Speaker 1: being snatched.

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Speaker 4: It could be a dude that's been watching you, like, bro,

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Speaker 4: you've been coming up, Yo, you get money out here.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me snatch that up off of you

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Speaker 1: and taking your life.

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Speaker 4: It could be so many different types of ways, and

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Speaker 4: that that backbone of our community, you know, like our society,

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Speaker 4: like we need strong black.

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Speaker 1: Males to help guid the young males.

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Speaker 4: I can't teach myself, like in that situation, I told y'all,

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Speaker 4: I can't teach my son how to be a man

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Speaker 4: or how to be fearless, or he gonna have to

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Speaker 4: hear that from another man, and it would the best

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Speaker 4: person is his father, you know, especially if he can

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Speaker 4: be healthy and whole to be able to show up

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Speaker 4: and be that mentor for his family, you know. And

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Speaker 4: so we just need them to grow old so they

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Speaker 4: can be able to learn and gain wisdom and give

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Speaker 4: that wisdom and mentorship is needed in our community so

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Speaker 4: we can flourish as a community. Otherwise we're just gonna

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Speaker 4: continue to have a genocide happening before our very eyes.

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Speaker 2: How can people follow you and purchase some hoodies and

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Speaker 2: sweatshirts if they want so.

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Speaker 4: They can follow Black Men Deserve to Grow Old on

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Speaker 4: ig on all platforms. Black Men Deserve to Grow old.

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Speaker 1: Go to b M D t g O.

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Speaker 4: We shorten it for y'all. H B M D t

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Speaker 4: g O's just the acronym for Black men Deserve to

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Speaker 4: Grow Old.

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Speaker 1: Dot com.

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Speaker 4: You can follow me at I Am a J on

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Speaker 4: ig and platforms as well. But we just like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: just go in there, buy something, show your support, your advocacy,

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Speaker 4: help us spread this message because that's what's.

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Speaker 2: Needed, all right, And we thank you again for joining us.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you absolutely. It's me a J.

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Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 3: Good morning,