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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, that's the almost famous podcast. We are together

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Speaker 2: and we are breaking down the Golden Bachelor women tell

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Speaker 2: All episode. But hey, Ben, yes, is there anything to

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Speaker 2: break down? And I'm not making fun of the show.

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Speaker 2: I'm just like, this was the most wasted money ever?

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Speaker 3: Is it wasted? A live shows more expensive? You thing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Because they have to rent out that studio and then

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Speaker 2: they have to fly in all those ladies, pay for

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Speaker 2: the hotel for all those ladies. It's expensive. And there

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Speaker 2: was nothing nothing. I mean, it was air.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, we're gonna get into that. Before we do,

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Speaker 3: we want to tell everybody Happy Halloween. If you cele

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Speaker 3: it is ween known as first Halloween. I am dressing

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Speaker 3: up for the first time, I bet in twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's so you to have not dressed up for

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Speaker 2: twenty five years?

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Speaker 3: It is, and literally I haven't. I didn't dress that

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Speaker 3: much as it.

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Speaker 2: I had never not dressed up. Did you know that? No,

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Speaker 2: never not dressed up.

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Speaker 3: What's your most iconic look?

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Speaker 2: Well, the one that is iconic to me is like

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Speaker 2: my custom made jasmine costume. I had a custom made

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Speaker 2: one when I was little, and then when I was

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Speaker 2: twenty one, I got another custom one made, and man,

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Speaker 2: oh man, were they worn so many times. There were

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Speaker 2: so many years where it would be my fallback and

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Speaker 2: then it would be like great. In addition, because there

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Speaker 2: was also so many years in my twenties where it

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Speaker 2: was like such an Instagram thing that like I needed

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Speaker 2: to have multiple costumes for the plot of it, all right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so yeah, that has been so well worn. And it

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Speaker 2: was great when Dawson was going through his Aladdin stage

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Speaker 2: like two years ago phase, and then when Jared and

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Speaker 2: I got together and I finally got the have a

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Speaker 2: couple's costume for the first time in my life. So excited.

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Speaker 2: This is the only year where I guess since Dawson's

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Speaker 2: had like sort of an opinion, like I have had

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Speaker 2: less of a compulsion to dress up for myself.

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Speaker 3: Are you going to dress up? Though? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: But for the first time ever, like I don't have

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Speaker 2: I'm being a Power Ranger. I'm being a pink Power

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Speaker 2: Ranger because Jared has got Dawson into the Power Rangers.

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Speaker 2: I did it was not allowed to watch the Power

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Speaker 2: Engers when it was really popular when we were in kindergarten.

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Speaker 2: Is Len, Yes, and I have stuck stuck with that,

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Speaker 2: taken my mom's motto, and he does. He's not really

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Speaker 2: allowed to watch it either. He has seen like a

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Speaker 2: couple episodes on planes, like as like a special treat,

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Speaker 2: and then Jared has shown him the movie, which Jared

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Speaker 2: claims is far teamer and like less bizarre than the

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Speaker 2: show a couple times. But he's actually like never been like,

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Speaker 2: go watch Power Ranges, War watch Power Juice, which is

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Speaker 2: great because it's usually not allowed. But he just loves

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Speaker 2: and he loves his action figures. He loves his Power

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Speaker 2: Ranger action figures.

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Speaker 3: I grew up liking the Power Ranges a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I never got that into him. There is a little weird.

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Speaker 3: I think it was a little creepy for me. Yeah weird.

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Speaker 3: I think he was a pink Power Ranger is a

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Speaker 3: great costume, by the way, I think it's gonna pink.

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Speaker 2: Yeah really, yeah. I just hope that we can make

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Speaker 2: some video where it's like really nostalgically, like it looks

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Speaker 2: like a VHS tape for the nineties. Yeah, and then

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Speaker 2: then it'll feed my creative juices. But everybody is going

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Speaker 2: to be one. Jared's gonna be the Green Ranger or

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Speaker 2: one of them's green, and Dawson's the red one.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you're defeated.

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Speaker 2: I am. I am defeated because you know what this

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Speaker 2: I have to be a Power Ranger for Halloween, whereas

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Speaker 2: Sway after something like that. Yeah, and it's okay. Somebody

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Speaker 2: I'm going to remind myself of this on Halloween as

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Speaker 3: It's a testament to you in your commitment to make

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Speaker 3: sure that your sons have a good time. I'm dressing

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Speaker 3: up for the first time as the.

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Speaker 2: Being twenty five years it's the best.

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Speaker 2: Oh, so you're gonna be like the little like the

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Speaker 2: adorable dad. There's this TikTok gone viral of a beast

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Speaker 2: walking down the road with his little bell and he's

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Speaker 3: So who's just gonna be a bigger bell?

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Speaker 2: Oh so two bells? That's cute.

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Speaker 3: Two bells. She bought everything. I've even seen my costume have.

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Speaker 2: That's so cute. So are you gonna go take your

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Speaker 2: check treating because it's kind of a weird age.

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Speaker 3: Okay, We're gonna take her early to show our neighbors

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Speaker 3: because they just love seeing Winnie and so my parents

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Speaker 3: our house. We're gonna take her around and say hi

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Speaker 3: to the neighbors. Obviously, Halloween falls on a Friday, so

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Speaker 3: it's a big party in our neighborhood. It's going to

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Speaker 3: be a blast. Have I ever told you before we

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Speaker 3: get into the breakdown what happens in my neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: I think you said that it's just like wild, wild

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Speaker 3: This is no lie. The elk herd that lives like

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Speaker 2: Oh, yes, I know all about this. How they just

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Speaker 3: They walk down the street after everybody leaves and eats

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Speaker 3: the candy, and they'll like be walking past the kids,

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Speaker 3: like the hurdle on the street, eating pumpkins and candy

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Speaker 3: and the kids will still be chick or treating. It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen anything like that.

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Speaker 2: Is so cool. I love that imagery. Can you please

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Speaker 2: record that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I will. I'm not very good at recording stuff,

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Speaker 3: but I will if you asked me to. I'll remember

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Speaker 3: to record that.

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Speaker 2: Please. That's such good visuals.

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Speaker 3: It's so fun, it's so great, it hilarious. We're excited

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Speaker 3: I mean, Lenona just breaks my heart every time. And

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Speaker 3: if she's in a little princess costume, I don't know

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Speaker 3: what I'm gonna do, but I'm gonna be so proud

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Speaker 2: My gosh, oh my gosh, Ben, this is so cute.

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Speaker 2: I gotta talk about this forever. The fact that I

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Speaker 2: also just casually in our dress up box downstairs, have

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Speaker 2: a full blown beauty in the Beast sets like I

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Speaker 2: just have one. Of course, I do a full blown

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Speaker 2: beast costume in the basement. Jared and I once, stupidly,

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Speaker 2: I think this was last Halloween, went upstairs to wake

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Speaker 2: up Dawson from a nap dressed as Belle and the

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Speaker 2: Beast on Halloween, thinking that he would think it was cool,

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Speaker 2: and uh no, Petri died. Yeah, he's not scared of anything, though,

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Speaker 2: it's so weird. He goes to the Halloween stores, he's like,

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Speaker 2: all the scary animatronics, not phase at all, Hayden petrified. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so yeah, he's he's never been scared of things like

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Speaker 2: that too. I don't know my sisters who are going

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Speaker 2: to my sister's house for Halloween, because she's like in

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Speaker 2: the Arlington paper every year for being like one of

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Speaker 2: the houses to go see because she has insane decorations outside.

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Speaker 2: She goes back and forth between scary dolls, clowns, and

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Speaker 2: then like a graveyard. And besides that, that's like all

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Speaker 2: the shed can handle. Like the shed is basically dedicated to,

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Speaker 2: you know, to Halloween decor and she has so many

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Speaker 2: Chucker traders. So I'm really excited.

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Speaker 3: I know you have a lot of men in your life,

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Speaker 3: but I want to remind you that I am frightened

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Speaker 3: of clowns, like I have a mass.

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Speaker 2: That's the theme this year. Good good, It's so it

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Speaker 2: is really scary. I'll send you videos.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing about class that makes sense to me. All right,

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Speaker 3: as we close up here, ashes any sense? What candy

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Speaker 3: is your favorite that your boys will get? Possibly trigger tree?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so, like my favorite candy in general is Cadberry chocolate.

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Speaker 2: I love Cadberry chocolate. I think it's more high scale

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Speaker 2: than any sort of good diver or don't anything on

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Speaker 2: that level. But Halloween candy. I do love a tutsi

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Speaker 2: roll and I'm always excited to see you know them

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Speaker 2: get Reese's Twigs, Snickers, Milky Way, Like, those are some classics.

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Speaker 3: You just named the whole bag of candy that I bought.

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Speaker 2: Like, no, no candy, I don't want the fake dies.

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Speaker 2: I mean I do like Twizzlers, uh, and I do

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Speaker 2: like Star Wars. So basically all the good ones. That's

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Speaker 2: my taste. What about you.

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Speaker 3: I'm a sour guy. Anything sour I will eat up

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Speaker 3: in a second. But I'm not a candy fan. But

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Speaker 3: I will eat a lot of sour candy.

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Speaker 2: You're not a candy fan. What do you mean by that?

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Speaker 3: I don't eat I don't like candy that much.

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Speaker 2: Wow, you know that like Jared and I both, I

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Speaker 2: cannot go to bed without having dessert. I really can't

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Speaker 2: have a mini dessert after every meal.

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Speaker 3: I don't eat dessert. Jessica thinks it's odd. I'm a

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Speaker 3: fruit fan of dessert, so like anything fruity. So if

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Speaker 3: they have like a blueberry crisp, I might get it

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Speaker 3: a peach cobbler. Could see myself eating it. But that's all.

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Speaker 3: That's as far as I go.

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Speaker 2: Wow, man, that's good for you. Like, I'm happy for

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Speaker 2: you about that. But like all my desserts have to

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Speaker 2: incorporate chocolate, even like pies like no thank you unless

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Speaker 2: it's chocolate cream pie.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not like I've made this conscious decision for

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Speaker 3: my health. I do about anything's bad for my health.

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Speaker 3: It's just I don't know. I've never love candy. It's

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Speaker 3: not a sugar guy. Never happened. I don't drink soda.

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Speaker 2: So wow, good for you. I just love a coke.

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Speaker 3: But I eat a ton of chips.

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Speaker 2: Are you salty guy? Then?

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Speaker 2: You know I eat My favorite food in the entire

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Speaker 2: world might just be chips and dip. Yeah, that's my

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Speaker 3: I can I can pound a bag of cheddar and

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Speaker 3: sour cream ruffles in one day pretty easily.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh see, I'm more of like a taco dip

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Speaker 2: or chips and salsa or chips, and I guess it's

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Speaker 2: like a tosquito, but a really hard crunchy one and

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Speaker 2: put it in queso. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I do want to share one more thing that's unrelated.

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Speaker 2: I'm going on our first Disney cruise next week. I've

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Speaker 2: been on nineteen cruises, eighteen Royal Caribbean, very loyal to

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Speaker 2: Royal than been on one Princess. I was in seventh grade.

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Speaker 2: And what did I say? In seventh grade? I cried

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Speaker 2: when I saw the dining room because it wasn't grand enough.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that fits.

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Speaker 2: Yep, checks out that I've been me for that long

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Speaker 2: and no offensive Princess cruise line. I'm sure I just am. Yeah. So,

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Speaker 2: I thought Debbie was kind of came at her. Debbie

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I feel like that's something that somebody

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Speaker 3: she's honest. You've done that your whole life. Ash. That's

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Speaker 3: don't You're not mean to people. I think that's one

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Speaker 3: I love it. I love being on TV. I think

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it, and I support you in your pursuit

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Speaker 2: I'm not desperate about it. The opportunity comes to me,

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Speaker 3: I never said you're desperate. I never said you're for

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Speaker 2: I could take it or leave it.

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Speaker 3: It's not true.

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Speaker 3: I tell you that. It's gonna say you found yourself

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Speaker 2: Hey, that was a lot of that was nothing. That

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Speaker 3: I just I appreciate the honesty. I did not feel

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Speaker 2: It's hard to say anything back to that. So she

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Speaker 3: I know. It just frustrated me. I want to see more.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't there's not much to talk about here. She

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Speaker 2: They look pretty well settled. Is it really that much

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like I was like, Okay, calm down. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: What we're just finding something to complain about.

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Speaker 3: I know, well, because there isn't a lot here actually,

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Speaker 3: pretty much say how much they liked him, how great

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Speaker 3: being like hey, Mel, like did you actually ever want anybody?

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Speaker 3: There was nothing that we've been asking And if you

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Speaker 2: Asking, why did you pick him?

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Speaker 3: Why'd you pick him? Mel? Were you actually ever really

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Speaker 3: that into this? Nicole? Why did you say you wanted

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Speaker 2: They should have had Kathy and Susan host this chat.

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Speaker 3: It would have been great. They would have said some

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Speaker 3: weird stuff. I love them, They're great. They would have

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Speaker 2: Also, if they have heard so many complaints about Mel,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm just left thinking you didn't have any footage.

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Speaker 3: the opportunity to kind of like bring him from the ashes,

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Speaker 3: like rise him up and say, okay, no, this is

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Speaker 3: the guy that we didn't show. Here's some funny moments

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Speaker 3: with Mel. Here's some intimate moments with Mel. Here's some

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Speaker 3: moments that we caught Mel crying in the corner when

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Speaker 3: he didn't think cameras were around. We didn't see anything.

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Speaker 3: And then he gets on stage, and I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: it feels like okay, I mean Melby on stage, feels

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Speaker 3: like what the season has felt like so far. It's

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Speaker 3: saying the right things at the right moment. We're not

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Speaker 3: saying anything at all, and saying them quickly and concisely

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Speaker 3: and leaving a lot of room for interpretation. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: get me fired up for this finale. It doesn't. And

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Speaker 3: and so you know, you look at the way the

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Speaker 3: show set this up. It's it's obviously planned. These people

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Speaker 3: are professionals, and they have Jared Freed in the audience.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm down for Jared Freed to be there. He

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Speaker 2: always makes me laugh. And I did really like that

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Speaker 2: clip that they showed with him where they were showing

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Speaker 2: all the one liners he was trying to give to Robin,

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Speaker 2: and Robin didn't laugh at any of them. And that

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Speaker 2: was like the most relatable moment because my mom wouldn't

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Speaker 2: understand Jared's Freed Jared Fried's humor either, because he has

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Speaker 2: the most millennial humor.

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Speaker 3: I think he's hilarious. But again, what does it bring like?

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Speaker 3: Did it? Did it make the show?

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Speaker 2: It makes me laugh for a second?

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Speaker 3: Okay, good, good, that's all we need. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's funny, he is, and he's good on the show.

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Speaker 3: He's good for the show. I just don't see like,

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Speaker 3: out of everything they could have done here, that was

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Speaker 3: like that was one of the big attempts. It just

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Speaker 3: felt like like it just feels like we're we're not

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Speaker 3: rising up. Here's my complaint. All these other shows are

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Speaker 3: going on right now and they're crushing it new creative ideas,

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Speaker 3: they're always rising to the occasion. The Bachelor has every

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Speaker 3: opportunity to raise the occasion and compete with these new

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Speaker 3: shows coming out, and it feels like, time after time

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Speaker 3: again they just fall a little short. And it frustrates

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Speaker 3: me because I believe in the show and I still

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Speaker 3: think the show could be good. It could be good.

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Speaker 2: I know the finale is actually two hours, So now

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Speaker 2: I'm again being like, Okay, why didn't you just air

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Speaker 2: our one of the finale, leave us on a good cliffhanger,

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Speaker 2: and then do another hour.

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Speaker 3: It'd be great. Yeah, I mean that that the finale

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Speaker 3: is two hours, it has to have some context that

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Speaker 3: we're not seeing, like it's gonna be dramatic, emotional, it's

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Speaker 3: gonna pull our heartstrings, maybe a little bit. I am

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Speaker 3: still holding up hope. Actually we have we have two

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Speaker 3: hours left, and I'm holding out hope. At the end

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Speaker 3: of the season helps us understand what we've been watching

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Speaker 3: the for the last you know, eight to nine weeks. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: do you agree?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course I agree, But like I'm kind of

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Speaker 2: hopeless at this point. To be honest, I'm just I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to think that this engagement is going to

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Speaker 2: last at all.

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Speaker 3: Who do you think he gets engaged to.

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Speaker 2: I think it's Cindy.

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Speaker 3: I think it's Cindy too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. And she'll be really happy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I'm really happy for her, But I'm really sad

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Speaker 2: for when it's not necessarily going to work out. Maybe

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Speaker 2: we know more, Maybe we don't know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we just don't know, We don't know enough. This

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Speaker 3: is our tell all episode. Usually we feel like these

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Speaker 3: are either so great or just miss the mark every

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Speaker 3: season that they do this, but this is a tall

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Speaker 3: episode of The Golden Bachelor. We got the previews for

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Speaker 3: Antigua next week. Antigua's beautiful. We see some sweet dates,

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Speaker 3: we see some sweet moments I don't exactly seet see

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Speaker 3: the iconic moment that will make us be put on

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Speaker 3: the edge of our seats and make this season memorable.

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Speaker 3: I don't see it yet. I hope it's there.

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Speaker 2: He's holding an engagement ring. I still in doubt that

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Speaker 2: he's going to propose. This just doesn't seem like a

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Speaker 2: man in love to me, and as we even saw

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Speaker 2: last week, he said, like he's not there yet. So

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Speaker 2: how do you go from being not being in love

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Speaker 2: to being like, I'm going to get down on me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you can't do that. You can't, you actually can't do that.

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Speaker 3: See your vote is he doesn't get engaged at all

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Speaker 3: at the end of this.

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Speaker 2: I think the smart choice would be not to get engaged.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I oftentimes say that this more Choyce would

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Speaker 2: to not be engaged, but like, right now, like I

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Speaker 2: actually don't even think he's like very much in lust

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Speaker 2: because sometimes I think that like a lot of the

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Speaker 2: leads are confused and they're like, oh, you know, bachelor

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Speaker 2: bubble lust love, But there's something that I'm feeling intensely.

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Speaker 2: I just like don't even think he's feeling intensely. So

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Speaker 2: I think it's best for him not to do this.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you. I think they should go out of

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Speaker 3: this and be a happy couple and try to make

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Speaker 3: this work in the real world for as long as

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Speaker 3: they can.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know how my argument is as of

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Speaker 2: last season, like you have your kids, just date.

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Speaker 3: Just date, have a lot of fun, travel the world.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Pegs are next Golden Bachelorette?

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Speaker 2: She's cool, she's cool as a bachelorette. I think it

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Speaker 2: would need to be Debbie, especially after the season. This episode, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this made me like this episode that that was a

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Speaker 2: moment where I felt where I was just like, I'm

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Speaker 2: really sad this lady's never been married, that's what she

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Speaker 2: still really wants. And her wearing the white wedding dress.

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Speaker 2: I was, I want a bachelorette who's never been married

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Speaker 2: in her sixties.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's beautiful. Let's hope for it. We're

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Speaker 3: voting for Debbie. This has been the almost famous podcast.

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Speaker 3: We've broken down the tell awe. We'll be back breaking

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Speaker 3: down the finale. Look for as you listen and watch,

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Speaker 3: look for those memorable moments. Also, let us know if

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Speaker 3: this season is relating to you in any way, if

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Speaker 3: you're enjoying it, if you're soil on a cast member

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Speaker 3: or melon general. We want to hear from you so

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Speaker 3: that we can get behind your thoughts and also learn

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Speaker 3: from you. So continue to listen to everything coming out

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Speaker 3: on the Almost Famous feed. Until next time, I've Been Been.

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