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Speaker 1: It's easy to pick favorites to win divisions, especially as

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Speaker 1: raise a banner in twenty twenty five. Could some of

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Speaker 1: those teams be led by young quarterbacks? Well, Mark Ross

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. Welcome inside with the Insiders alongside

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport and Judy Battista, I am Tom Peliserro. We

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Speaker 1: are eighty days out from kickoff to the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: have now wrapped up their off season programs, which means

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Speaker 1: at the moment, we've still got a lot of football

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Speaker 1: players on baseball fields. That's where Miles Garrett was yesterday

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Speaker 1: who chose to wear a Rangers jersey and some very

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Speaker 2: You can deserve whatever he's earned. I mean, guys, special

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Speaker 1: So a lot of items on the offseason checklist here Ian,

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Speaker 1: Tell me where we stand right now with a Cowboys

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Speaker 3: In fact, Michael Parsons said himself recently that he believes

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys are costing themselves money by not doing this

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Speaker 3: deal early. But it just does not seem like that

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Speaker 3: of these deals, you'll understand where things are. And it

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Speaker 3: does make sense that Micah Parsons would be last. Have

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Speaker 3: ended the offseason began the season as the highest paid

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Speaker 3: as Miles Garrett said, Micah Parsons deserves everything he could

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Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys. It is going to be a lot.

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Speaker 3: In fact, they had some initial negotiations, not with his agent,

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Speaker 5: That was always a bit of a question, especially for

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Speaker 1: That's what happens when you have record salary cap spikes too,

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Speaker 7: The only way for the Titan market to continue to

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Speaker 1: That's that's the only way to do it.

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Speaker 1: Anytime we're invoking death before retirement, you know a guy's

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Speaker 3: We've talked a lot about the Atlanta Falcons quarterback group,

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins was not a distraction at all.

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Speaker 9: He handled the media well, he was talking with Michael

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Speaker 9: Kirk Cousins is not going to make a huge issue here,

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Speaker 5: I don't think anybody thinks Kirk Cousins is the type

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Speaker 6: All right, Cam, we could talk.

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Speaker 1: Mark Ross. Mark, you got a new call him up

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Speaker 10: My favorite player coming out of the draft last season,

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Speaker 1: I'm writing all these down Edrin Cooper, Brian Burn, c. J. Stroud.

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Speaker 1: You like the way they look, Mark Ross guarantees it, Mark,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much. More from you, Ian. Just a

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Speaker 1: bit coming up after this though, Let's head down to

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Speaker 1: the NFC South, where could there finally be a challenger

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Speaker 1: to the Bucks in that division. Sarah Walsh was at

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Speaker 1: Fock's minicamp. Next she'll be with us for her biggest

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Speaker 1: takeaway on the perpetual NFC South Champs. That's next on

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Speaker 1: the Insiders.

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Speaker 5: The weight is over and the countdown to kickoff has begun.

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Speaker 5: They were on the field for mini camp last week,

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Speaker 5: so they are already on summer vacation. You see a

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Speaker 5: little slow mo action here on maybe regular speed action too,

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Speaker 5: little Baker Mayfield. Again, the Bucks are already on vacation,

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Speaker 5: but Sarah Walsh is not on vacation. She is joining

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Speaker 5: us here tonight to discuss the Tampa Bay Bucks. She

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Speaker 5: knows this team about as well as anybody, all right, As.

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Speaker 6: We said, Sarah, they are already.

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Speaker 5: On the beach, although they could be on the beach

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Speaker 5: any day really in Tampa. What are the takeaways from

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Speaker 5: their mini camp.

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Speaker 11: I think what we learned, Judy, is what we already

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Speaker 11: thought we were going to see when you looked at

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Speaker 11: this roster on paper.

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Speaker 6: And that's the fact that the.

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Speaker 11: Receivers group is completely stacked for this Tampa team, because

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Speaker 11: you already have the two Pro Bowlers and Mike Evans

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Speaker 11: and Chris Godwin Junior, by the way, that is a

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Speaker 11: name change.

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Speaker 1: He's going by.

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Speaker 11: Godwin Junior now is a nod to his father. And

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Speaker 11: then you already had Jalen McMillan, who is an emerging

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Speaker 11: star now going into his second season. They added first

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Speaker 11: rounder of Mecca Abuka in this draft. They also added

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Speaker 11: a speedster and Tess Johnson. And so Mike Evans, who

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Speaker 11: has been around, has seen a lot of football. He

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Speaker 11: is entering his twelfth season. Here's what he had to

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Speaker 11: say about his receivers room after more than a decade

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Speaker 11: in this league.

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Speaker 12: I say it every year, but we always get great

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Speaker 12: players to come in. So it's been very fortunate for

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Speaker 12: me in my career to be around a lot of

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Speaker 12: great young players, and they've added to their room tremendously.

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Speaker 1: They're already very polished.

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Speaker 12: Already in Mecca's really strong hands, super smart to his speed,

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Speaker 12: quickness without specifically on.

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Speaker 6: A Mecca with one skup of ball in his hands,

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Speaker 6: were really able to do like making keeping is.

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Speaker 12: Oh, he looks like a running back, but I mean

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Speaker 12: he catches like Chris Gowa like he's He's very polished,

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Speaker 12: very well rounded player.

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Speaker 11: Evans, but also say that the fact that these new

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Speaker 11: guys are not only just really good, but really hungry,

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Speaker 11: he says, it motivates him to be even hungrier despite

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Speaker 11: how long he has played. Now, Evans know is going

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Speaker 11: to end up in the Hall of Fame when his

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Speaker 11: career is over. Keep this in context, though, right he's

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Speaker 11: their number one receiver. When Chris Godwin Junior was lost

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Speaker 11: for the year because of an ankle injury last season,

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Speaker 11: it was Godwin Junior that was leading the league in receptions.

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Speaker 11: And then you go late in the year and it

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Speaker 11: was Jalen McMillan, who was just a rookie who had

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Speaker 11: seven touchdowns in his last five games.

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Speaker 6: If Godwin Junior.

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Speaker 11: Is healthy, healthy, if McMillan continues to do what they think,

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Speaker 11: and you add these new guys who are already are

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Speaker 11: making some people open their eyelids down here in Tampa,

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Speaker 11: Mike Evans might be right about this being the best

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Speaker 11: receiving room that he has ever been a part of Judy.

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Speaker 5: Despite that, Sarah, I feel like the Tampa Bay Box

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Speaker 5: still don't get as much respect as they deserve. They

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Speaker 5: are like perpetual underdogs even though they just keep winning

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Speaker 5: the division. How do they change that narrative in the

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Speaker 5: post Tom Brady era.

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Speaker 11: I think it's probably changing this year. Going into the season.

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Speaker 11: The Bucks have now won the NFC South four years

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Speaker 11: in a row. No team has ever won that division

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Speaker 11: five years in a row. Baker Mayfield said at this

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Speaker 11: training camp, if you are not trying to get better,

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Speaker 11: you are not going to survive. Now, Baker has put

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Speaker 11: up career numbers in his first year in Tampa, even

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Speaker 11: better number in his second.

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Speaker 1: Year in Tampa.

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Speaker 11: And now, as we were talking about this loaded receivers group,

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Speaker 11: you've got a run game that they didn't have in

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Speaker 11: Bucky Irving. I don't think anyone is discounting the Bucks.

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Speaker 11: I mean this is a potent offense. They've got every

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Speaker 6: That is huge.

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Speaker 11: The question mark Judy have been over on defense, and

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Speaker 11: Todd Bowles pointed out that it's safety that is probably

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Speaker 11: going to be the most heavily competed for position during

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Speaker 11: training camp. Antoine Winfield junior Tike Smith expected to be

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Speaker 11: the starters, but then there's guys after that.

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Speaker 6: They depth there.

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Speaker 11: Sheilah Sanders is the name that is fighting for a spot.

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Speaker 11: Bull's last piece of advice before these guys headed off

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Speaker 11: into vacation was be ready to roll and don't be

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Speaker 11: working out indoors because that is not going to work

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Speaker 11: when you return here in this Florida heat for training camp.

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Speaker 11: They might be still underdogs nationally, but this offense was

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Speaker 11: so good last season. I don't think that there is

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Speaker 11: any more slipping under the radar in this post Tom

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Speaker 11: Brady era, Judy.

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Speaker 5: It might also be time to stop calling it the

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Speaker 5: post Tom Brady era, because this will be the third

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Speaker 5: season post Tom Brady.

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Speaker 6: They only had Tom Brady.

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Speaker 5: For three seasons, so we might get to call it

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Speaker 5: maybe the Baker Mayfield era.

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Speaker 6: So I think that's thank you very much. Tom.

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Speaker 1: The Bucks just keep winning the division, which means everybody

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Speaker 1: else has to get used to losing. Well. Chuba Hubbard

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Speaker 1: among others this week saying Panthers are singing tired of it.

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Speaker 1: I think we're the closest we've ever been to a

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Speaker 1: playoff run. For more on that, let's bring in our

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Speaker 1: buddy Adam Rank, who's got some thing to say about

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Speaker 1: sleeper candidates to win divisions around the NFL. Let's start

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Speaker 1: out right there in the NFC South. Rank, Are the

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Speaker 1: Panthers the team? Do you think people might be sleeping

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Speaker 1: on here?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 13: I do like that Chuba Hubbard has goals. Similarly, I

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Speaker 13: have a goal of breaking eighty. I don't know if

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Speaker 13: either one of those things will happen this season, but

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Speaker 13: I do really like the Carolina spanthers chances of winning

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Speaker 13: the NFC South this year. As as a matter of fact,

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Speaker 13: I believe they're going to break through. Last season. They

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Speaker 13: made some great strides when they rebuilt the interior of

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Speaker 13: their offensive line, and Bryce Young went from being benched

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Speaker 13: in favor of Andy Dalton playing some really good football

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Speaker 13: down the stretch, and there were times where it looked

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Speaker 13: like Bryce Young was that guy that they thought he

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Speaker 13: was going to be when he was the number one

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Speaker 13: overall pick in the draft. And for this season, they

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Speaker 13: brought in Tech McMillan to give him a viable option

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Speaker 13: to go along with Xavier Leggett. And defensively, Dan Morgan

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Speaker 13: did a nice job grabbing a pair of edge rushers

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Speaker 13: in the second and third run who should make an impact.

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Speaker 1: And there's Ted McMillan right there.

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Speaker 13: I know our buddy Steve Smith Senior didn't like him

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Speaker 13: as much, but I still think it could be a

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Speaker 13: really good wide receiver. And it's also somebody should look

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Speaker 13: at it in fantasy too, But we can talk about

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Speaker 13: that at another point.

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Speaker 1: Let's head out to the AFC West here rank who

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Speaker 1: is a sleeper to win that division.

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Speaker 13: I don't know if they count as a sleeper because

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Speaker 13: they won they did make the playoffs last year, but

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Speaker 13: it's the Denver Broncos who are very good. At the

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Speaker 13: end of last season and again they got into the playoffs.

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Speaker 13: I know a lot of teams were happy they didn't

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Speaker 13: have to face the Bengals, but they were in the playoffs.

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Speaker 13: And when we sit here and everybody, you know, while

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Speaker 13: we sit here and we celebrate bo Nicks, who had

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Speaker 13: the most passing yards of all rookie quarterbacks last season,

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Speaker 13: it's really the defense that stands out to me. The

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Speaker 13: defense was already pretty good. Then you go out there

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Speaker 13: and you add Dre Greenlaw, Telllona Hufunga, you bring in

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Speaker 13: Barren some of the other guys to a great to

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Speaker 13: a defense that was already become very good. And it's

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Speaker 13: interesting though, because when you look at the AFC West,

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Speaker 13: this is easily the most difficult division in football. You

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Speaker 13: have four excellent head coaches who have had success in

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Speaker 13: this league, and I would say that every team, including

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Speaker 13: the Raiders, should feel like they have a real opportunity

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Speaker 13: to go out and win the AFC West. My pick

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Speaker 13: is the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 1: All right, one more here AFC northrank who is a

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Speaker 1: sleeper to win that division?

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Speaker 13: Again, I don't know how much of a sleeper this counts,

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Speaker 13: but I love the Cincinnati Bengals. Now, obviously they've got

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Speaker 13: some things to clean up, especially on the defensive side

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Speaker 13: of the football. The defense was a problem a year ago,

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Speaker 13: they fired the defensive coordinator. But now they're going through

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Speaker 13: a thing where they're trying to figure out what they're

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Speaker 13: going to do with Trey Hendricks said. Now there are

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Speaker 13: reports that it sounds like talks are getting resumed.

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Speaker 1: You would know more than me.

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Speaker 13: They need to figure out what they're doing with Shamar

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Speaker 13: Stewart as well, and then they have to find a

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Speaker 13: replacement for Jermaine Pratt. They have a lot of things

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Speaker 13: going on the they need to fix defensively.

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Speaker 1: But you know what they did the right thing.

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Speaker 13: Jamar Chase is there, t Higgins is there, Joe Burrow

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Speaker 13: is there. There is still a huge opportunity for this

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Speaker 13: team offensively that I think that if they just tweak

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Speaker 13: a couple of things defensively, they don't need to be

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Speaker 13: the eighty five Bears, they don't need to be the

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Speaker 13: two thousand Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Just make us stop here or there.

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Speaker 13: That should be enough for the Bengals to win a

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Speaker 13: lot of games and to get into the playoffs this season.

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Speaker 5: Right this is storylines coming out of mini camps that

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Speaker 5: we should not be overreacting to. Let's start with how

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Speaker 5: the quarterback competition in Cleveland looked during mini camp. This

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Speaker 5: is something that is going to play out during training

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Speaker 5: camp during the preseason.

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Speaker 6: We're going to be counting reps.

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Speaker 5: Then we're going to be seeing which of the rookie

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Speaker 5: quarterbacks looks like he's moving ahead of the other. Also,

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Speaker 5: keep in mind, Joe Flacco has been in Cleveland. He

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Speaker 5: has had success with Kevin Stefanski. So when they are

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Speaker 5: divvying up reps, perhaps they don't need to give quite

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Speaker 5: as many to Joe Flacco because they know what he

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Speaker 5: can do, especially early in training camp. Maybe later on

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Speaker 5: they will want to get him ready if he's going

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Speaker 5: to be the starter for the start of the regular season.

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Speaker 5: But this is going to be an evolving competition. Four

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Speaker 5: quarterbacks in camp, two rookies in camp. We will see

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Speaker 5: much later in the summer how this breaks down, all right.

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Speaker 5: Similarly in Jacksonville, Travis Hunter, we're all obsessed with him

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Speaker 5: and how Travis Hunter is going to play two positions

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Speaker 5: or will he play two positions. During the spring, he

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Speaker 5: was practicing at both positions, receiver and cornerback on separate days,

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Speaker 5: and so of course we all fell into the trap.

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Speaker 5: We were counting how many days he was spending at

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Speaker 5: wide receiver, how many at cornerback. The Jaguars have made

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Speaker 5: it clear they see him as a wide receiver first.

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Speaker 5: He wants to play both, of course, but this is

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Speaker 5: going to be a fluid situation, not just during training camp,

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Speaker 5: not just during the preseason, not just during his rookie season.

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Speaker 5: Perhaps throughout his entire career how much he plays at

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Speaker 5: each position.

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Speaker 6: So calm down, breathe deeply.

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Speaker 5: We're going to see a lot of Travis Hunter at

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Speaker 5: both wide receiver and cornerback. And finally, in New England,

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Speaker 5: everybody take a deep breath about Stefan Diggs and his

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Speaker 5: adventures on the boat. Was that video of him partying

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Speaker 5: on a boat great?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 5: It was not, especially since new head coach Mike Rapel

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Speaker 5: has spent a whole lot of time talking about making

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Speaker 5: good decisions. That one didn't really strike anybody as a

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Speaker 5: great decision. Having said that, Stepan Diggs then showed up

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Speaker 5: at OTA's and at Mini caamp and Rabel praised how

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Speaker 5: engaged he was with the team and his energy, and

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Speaker 5: the Patriots need him. They need a veteran presence in

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Speaker 5: that wide receiver room. They have really been lacking in

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Speaker 5: playmakers at wide receiver the last few seasons. It has

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Speaker 5: shown they need him there for Drake May's development. Far

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Speaker 5: more important about Stephan Diggs is how he is progressing

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Speaker 5: from the ACL injury he suffered last season and when

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Speaker 5: he will be fully clear to practice completely with the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, still not all the way there yet for the Patriots,

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Speaker 3: hopefully at some point during training. Get but you're right,

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Speaker 3: talk all we want about the boat. This is a

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Speaker 3: guy who has to absolutely be a big time, big

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Speaker 3: time weapon for them. Okay, now, you gave us these

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Speaker 3: storylines we shouldn't overreact to. How about the storylines that

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Speaker 3: need a little more attention than we are currently giving it.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think we're going to have to give a

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Speaker 5: lot of attention to the Anthony Richardson situation in Indianapolis

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Speaker 5: with the ac joint soreness, perhaps a reaggravation of that

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Speaker 5: injury that he had.

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Speaker 6: Earlier in his career.

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Speaker 5: This is a really important thing because one of the

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Speaker 5: reasons why Anthony Richardson is involved in a quarterback competition

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Speaker 5: in Indianapolis is because he can't stay on the field.

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Speaker 5: His durability has been a huge problem. The guy looks

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Speaker 5: completely indestructible, just look at it, and he is huge,

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Speaker 5: but he's missed a ton of games in his first

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Speaker 5: two seasons in the NFL, so they don't know about

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Speaker 5: his durability. They brought in Daniel Jones, a player who,

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Speaker 5: to be honest, when you talk to some people around

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Speaker 5: the league thought had a pretty good chance of winning

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Speaker 5: that quarterback competition anyway, and now certainly is in a

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Speaker 5: much better position to win that competition, especially because coach

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Speaker 5: Shanstikeen would not put a timeline on one. Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 5: might be available to resume practice he did not participate

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Speaker 5: in mini camp.

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Speaker 6: We will see what it.

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Speaker 5: Looks like as we get closer to training camp. But

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Speaker 5: this is certainly a setback for Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly, as he threw a ton during the spring,

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Speaker 3: probably more than he has ever thrown, then showed the

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Speaker 3: effects of that by not participating in Mantua, Minica. You

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Speaker 3: hope by training camp he's okay, but I think it's

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Speaker 3: fair to say taking nothing at his face right now, Judy,

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Speaker 3: thank you very much, great stuff.

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Speaker 1: As always, if you're a fan of an NFL team

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Speaker 1: that took a running back or signed one to compliment

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Speaker 1: the one already in place, you love the depth. If

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Speaker 1: you're a fantasy player, you're already pulling out your hair

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Speaker 1: of which one of these guys should I take when

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Speaker 1: my drafts roll around in July and August. Hopefully it

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Speaker 1: didn't already happen, because that would make you a degenerate

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Insiders, Tom Telli, Sero, Ian Rappaport,

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Speaker 1: Mark Ross, and Adam Rank. We're gonna play a whole

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Speaker 1: game right now called Fantasy versus Reality, where we'll it

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Speaker 1: each you guys chime in on some of these situations

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Speaker 1: here from both the fantasy and reality perspective. I'll start

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Speaker 1: with you hear Rank. Of those rookie running backs, who's

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Speaker 1: the one you think will outplay his fantasy draft position.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing the fantasy part of this. I wish somebody

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Speaker 1: would have told I'm kidding.

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Speaker 13: I like our J Harvey, and I know a lot

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Speaker 13: of people will be out there. I've already hit up on.

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Speaker 1: Twitter with this or like what opening JK d I

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Speaker 1: know JK.

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Speaker 13: Dobbins is there, and there's a very real possibility that

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Speaker 13: this turns into the Camani Vidal fiasco that happened last season.

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Speaker 13: But I'm pretty optimistic because Sean Payton did use a

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Speaker 13: remium draft pick on bringing in R. J. Harvey, and

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Speaker 13: I know that the lazy thing would be to be like, wow,

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Speaker 13: this is Alvin Kamara. However, we've seen what Sean Payton

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Speaker 13: does with guys who fit certain molds. I mean It's

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Speaker 13: one of the reasons why Bo Knicks did so well

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Speaker 13: last year, and that's why R. J. Harvey is gonna

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Speaker 13: do so well this season.

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Speaker 3: All Right, that was good fantasy. Now let's get to reality. Mark,

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Speaker 3: I will hit you on this. Give me a young

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Speaker 3: running back now outperform his real life draft status.

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Speaker 10: Well, we've got to go with Trayvon Henderson, who got

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Speaker 10: taken thirty eighth there in the second round. Some thought

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Speaker 10: he was the first round talent, and I thought he

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Speaker 10: was too, And I think he'll play like a first

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Speaker 10: round talent.

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Speaker 1: Number one.

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Speaker 4: He saw.

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Speaker 10: Ramandre Stevenson is there, but Antonio Gibson was supposed to

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Speaker 10: be the receiving portion of that one to two punch.

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Speaker 1: Well he didn't live up to that.

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Speaker 10: So I think immediately Henderson will be making an impact

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Speaker 10: in the past game, and then I think eventually it

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Speaker 10: he'll take over as the number one back from Ramandre

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Speaker 10: just because he is that talented. Drake may will be

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Speaker 10: a lot better. Will Campbell's are only offensive line. Tre

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Speaker 10: Von Henderson's going to crush it like a first round pick.

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Speaker 1: Rank coming back to you here, a wide receiver who

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Speaker 1: will outplay his fantasy draft position well.

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Speaker 13: I've been told to keep this brief, so I will

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Speaker 13: say Trey Harris for a too pronged approach. Number one talent.

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Speaker 13: He's a downfield playmaker when he's healthy. I know he's

792
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Speaker 13: battled some injuries, but when he's healthy and available on

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Speaker 13: the field, he is tremendous down the field. And there's

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Speaker 13: also an opportunity. The LA Chargers are led by lad

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Speaker 13: McConkey as their number one target getter. I'm not going

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Speaker 13: to be shocked when Trey Harris is number two on

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Speaker 13: that list in targets.

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Speaker 3: I really wasn't all that quick rank. All right, mark

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Speaker 3: one more for you. Give me a real life receiver

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Speaker 3: who is expected to outperform his real life draft status.

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Speaker 10: Well, that's got to be Jack Besch going out there

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Speaker 10: to the Raiders. We know brock Bauer is going to

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Speaker 10: get all the attention to the past game. He took

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Speaker 10: a singenty up there for a reason. Give him a

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Speaker 10: ton of ca But Jack besh And thinks walking in

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Speaker 10: there he might be the best receiver on the team already.

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Speaker 10: I'm sorry to go, but this guy has done nothing

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Speaker 10: but just play big and catch balls at TC. Who

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Speaker 10: knows how to get open plays?

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Speaker 1: Physical.

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Speaker 10: He's going to bring that attitude there to the Raiders.

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Speaker 10: They're going to be paying attention to Brock, They're gonna

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Speaker 10: be paying attention to Genti. And here comes Jack Besh

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Speaker 10: with a ton of catches, more so than some guys

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Speaker 10: in the first round, Mark rank.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. More from you guys soon. I

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Speaker 1: am sure coming up after this though. We're all coming

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Speaker 1: off of Father's Day here. There have been some very

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Speaker 1: famous fathers and sons, including the Slaters, the McCaffrey's, among others.

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Speaker 1: Here what were some of our favorites that we saw

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Speaker 1: together this past weekend. We'll tell you after this on

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Speaker 1: the insiders. That'd be Father's Day from the NFL to

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Speaker 1: you and these special dads in your life, Ernest Zones,

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Speaker 1: Drew Locke, among others, celebrating out there in Seattle. Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott just became a father again very recently. Look at

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Speaker 1: that little peanut on the left right there for the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys quarterback Quinn Williams. A proud girl dad showing off

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Speaker 1: right there at last year's Pro Bowl games and to

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Speaker 1: a tongue of my law and a photo that if

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Speaker 1: you start looking at, where is there a giant metal

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Speaker 1: slide on top of a football field indoors will become

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Speaker 1: somewhat mine bending. But let's just focus right there on

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Speaker 1: the father Lee Love Welcome back to the Insiders, Tom pelisera,

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Speaker 1: Judy Batista, and Ian Rappaport, who always is very prolific

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Speaker 1: on holidays, but particularly ian prolific social media wise on

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Speaker 1: Father's Day.

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Speaker 3: Ah, Yes, it was a lovely Father's Day. So here's

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Speaker 3: what we did. We went to the Mets game. And

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Speaker 3: if you know anything about the Mets, they are currently awesome.

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Speaker 3: And there we are right there on the jumbo chh on.

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Speaker 3: Hello Rappaport family. There's Jude dancing, there's Max dancing.

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Speaker 1: There's me.

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Speaker 3: I'm dancing, but I'm just sitting and I'm waving to

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Speaker 3: the crowd. Surely a nice moment. The whole family was there.

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Speaker 3: There's Leah with a very cool retro Metz. Jersey loved that.

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Speaker 3: We're not going to talk about the score here, right,

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like nine to nothing. It doesn't matter. The

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Speaker 3: Mets are so good this year. There's Max hanging out,

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Speaker 3: there's my large shoda that I was drinking with, Jude

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Speaker 3: and his amazing hat. We had a ball at the

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Speaker 3: Mets game.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 3: We're not going to talk about the score because the

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Speaker 3: Mets have won so much this year, just not exactly

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Speaker 3: anything recently and certainly not while we were there.

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Speaker 5: Judy, any special shoutouts from your end here, shout out

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Speaker 5: to Anthony mccaren, my husband, great dad. We went to Broadway,

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Speaker 5: we saw the great gats Feet yesterday and then we

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Speaker 5: went out to dinner. So we were following the Mets

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Speaker 5: game on our phones. We should full disposure. They were

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Speaker 5: swept this weekend. There was a terrible weekend. Ian not

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Speaker 5: doing what he should. What's been doing at that game?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got fifteen seconds left. Can you show us

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Speaker 1: the dance you were doing in that photo, just so

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Speaker 1: we get the full visual?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So what I was doing when the

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Speaker 3: photo was going, Now, don't cut me off here, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna show you right now.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, get me one more second. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: ready to