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We've got some news out 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:54.160 of Israel, including netnyahuo embracing the Greater Israel project, so 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.480 just mask fully off at this point. I'm also going 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:59.960 to take a look at Theo vonhad In, American doctor 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.440 who was just back from Gaz's pretty extraordinary episode. I 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:04.120 really recommend that you guys go and listen to the 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:05.720 whole thing, but we have a clip from that. I 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:07.920 wanted to talk a little bit about that as well. 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:12.199 Marthorie Taylor Green and Laura Lumer in an Absolute flame 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.760 war break the details down there, and Laura Lum are 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:16.520 making a pretty dire prediction about the future of the 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:18.920 Republican Party, So that is interesting to dig into as well, 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:20.399 perhaps more substantive. 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:21.440 I don't know to dig into as well. 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:26.120 Congresswoman Luna is telling Joe Rogan about UFOs, so Sager 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:26.720 has some thoughts. 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:27.959 I guess I have some thoughts there. Well. 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:30.600 She made some crazy claims, but she's also gone after 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:32.320 some whistleblower, so we'll talk about it. 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:34.520 It's actually there's a lot going on there, Okay, yeah. 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.200 Right, you'll break that down for us. And then Israel 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:40.080 might be preparing to go back to war with Iran. 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.479 So we are going to have Dave DeCamp of Anti 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.240 War dot COM's first time on the show. I've been 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:45.880 wanting to get him on for a little while to 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:47.800 break down all of the details there. 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:49.840 We're also going to be doing our AM Live today. 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:51.480 If you guys want to be part of those, make 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.240 sure that you sign up over at breakingpoints dot com. 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:56.800 That's right, Breakingpoints dot Com. 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So we thought we would kick 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.600 it off with Dave Smith, who was recently on Piers 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:28.680 Morgan's show, debating a very pro Ukraine, pro Western NATO 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:32.160 sentiment and really revealing some of the core truths I 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:35.079 think behind what continues to drive a lot of the 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:36.440 NATO support for the war. 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:37.799 Let's take a listen, what. 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.480 Are we doing. You're just trying to insult Vladimir Putin, 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:44.639 insult Russia. It's like the most childish immature, just taunting. 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:48.120 There's an actual war going on right now. Where hundreds 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.359 of thousands of people have been dying, and there's a 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.320 meeting coming up between the two leaders of the United 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:57.360 States and Russia. As I said before, ninety percent of 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:00.440 the world stockpile of nuclear weapons. Let's all take this 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:04.640 down a notch. Vladimir Putin has at least signalled recently 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:08.480 that he will maybe is open to the idea of 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:13.280 keeping the Donbass region done, asking Lahansk, of getting a 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:17.880 corridor to Crimea, and of leaving some of the other territory. 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:20.160 Why are we not all pushing in that direction. It 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.320 is undeniable that the West did a lot to provoke 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:27.040 this conflict. It's just undeniable. Our CIA director through all 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:30.400 of Joe Biden's term, Bill Burns, was the one who 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.840 wrote the NT means NEET memo, who warned Condoliza Rice, 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.640 do not keep pushing in this direction, and we continued 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:40.400 pushing regardless it's resulted in this catastrophe. Like I said before, Pierce, 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:43.920 I'm not absolving Vladimir Putin of any responsibility. He launched 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:46.720 this warrant, He's responsible for the destruction. But when you 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.480 start the program by asking a simple question like what 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:53.560 is the exit strategy here? What is the plan. No 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.880 one really has anything. No one has anything other than 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.680 maybe we could keep sending weapons and money in and 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:03.320 this slow grind of people dying will continue, and Vladimir 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.120 Putin will then, at the end of that take the 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.360 territory he wants. Let's try to negotiate an end to 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.480 this nightmare that never needed to happen. 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:12.320 I thought he did a good job, kind of a 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.680 laying some of the stakes out. And yes, again I 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:19.480 understand nobody's absolving Vladimir Putin a buffer invading Ukraine. Were 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.960 simply acknowledging the contours of what. 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:22.520 Led to this. 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.320 Yeah, I actually find it almost similar maybe to the 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:28.880 Israel Hamas conversation. Right, It's like, to talk about October 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:31.760 seventh in a vacuum is kind of ridiculous. 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:33.400 I'm like, do you condemn Hammad. 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:36.200 Right exactly? Like, yes, of course on October seventh, and 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:39.040 it's like, let's look at the contours of the conflict. 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.240 That's part of the reason I think that Daryl Cooper's 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:44.560 series on Fear and Loathing in Jerusalem went so viral 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.880 because people are like I genuinely had no idea about 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:50.320 the history of these two actors and what led up 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:52.440 to this, and it starts to make a lot more 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.880 sense actually from both sides in terms of their actions, 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.960 both October seventh and the Israeli reaction, and you're able 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.520 to actually be able to down both and then look 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:04.400 at it, you know, without some single Israeli covered or 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:06.359 Palestinian covered glasses. 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.560 Right, And that makes it what it's called nuance. 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:12.599 It's about understanding how these things don't happen necessarily in evacuate. 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.200 It's not an adulting version. 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.560 Where it's just like he's an evil bad guy, so 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.320 he does bad stuff and they're evil people, so they 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.480 do they hate us because I were free, you know, 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.120 it's like the cartoon version of it. And I will 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.359 say there was one person on that panel that was 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.560 absolving Vladimir pos Ros, a dude in the car. 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:29.440 It was like some I. 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:33.040 Don't know, Russian State TV propaganda's and so that was 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.000 supposed to be like Dave's ally in the debate. Obviously 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.599 Dave doesn't agree with him, which he made clear, like 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.200 went out of his way to make clear, like the 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.159 things that this dude was saying, I do not co 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:43.120 sign whatsoever. 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:45.640 So Peers is more pro Ukraine. 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:49.080 The woman that was there is herself Ukrainian, and then 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:52.200 you've got two neocons there who are you know, very 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.919 pro Ukraine. And so it was basically Dave versus the 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.520 entire panel, and as you could see there handled himself 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:02.200 quite ably just by out you know, reality of where 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:06.240 we are, because this is you know, I have a 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:07.880 lot of sympathy and continue to have a lot of 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.479 sympathy for the Ukrainians. In fact, I'm disgusted with the 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.159 fact that the US was so integral and glowing up 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.560 a potential piece deal early on. I'm also disgusted with 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:19.240 the actions that multiple US administrations, including the first Trump one, 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.599 including Biden, including going back, you know, before this war 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.520 that they took that led to the provocation that created 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:32.160 the context for this illegal offensive action invasion by Russia. 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:36.480 And so, you know, if you are interested in trying 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:38.440 to bring this thing to a close, you have to 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:42.680 live in reality. The other alternative being offered here is 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:46.239 just what endless war or you know, if we're actually 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.400 going to try to get Ukraine to quote unquote win 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.640 and take back all their territory, I mean that would 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:54.800 require our actual direct involvement. Does anyone want that and 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:56.760 that's what's driven me crazy about this conflict from the 0:06:56.800 --> 0:07:00.240 beginning is there's been a total unwillingness to have an 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:03.560 honest debate about what happened in the past, what it's 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.240 going to mean, what the off ramp is, what the 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:09.039 plan is, where this whole thing is going. And now 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.480 it's just a mess and a quagmire. And you know, 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:15.200 I'm not particularly hopeful about this summit this weekend. I'll 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.360 just put my cards on the table, and I think 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.360 we'll have some indications you're about to share of, you know, 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.400 not great signs going into it. 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.040 But you know, I don't know. 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.280 I'm just at this point there really needs to be 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:31.240 some sort of rational clothes to this thing, and I 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:32.840 don't know that we're anywhere close to it. 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:33.680 I don't see it either. 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:37.200 Here's Trump talking about the summit, setting expectations. 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:38.120 Let's take a listener. 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:38.920 Let's your face. 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:43.360 Any consequences if Vladimir Putin does not agree to stop 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.920 the war after your meeting on Friday. 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:46.720 Yes, they will. 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:48.720 What will they will be? 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.640 Cons There will be I don't have to say there 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:55.320 will be very severe consequences. Yes, very severe consequences. I'm 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.280 going to return to that, because basically this thing, at 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.520 least for now, looks like it's set up fail to 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.000 be fair. Here's what the Trump people have been telling 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.800 me behind the scenes. He starts off from the maximal 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.600 political place so that he can negotiate down from there, 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:13.640 which sounds reasonable in practice, like maybe in business, but 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:18.480 in something as sensitive as this, I still remain remains 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.360 to be seen, I think in terms of the success 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:21.640 and part of the reason why is this. 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:23.480 Let's put this up there on the screen. 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.400 There's been multiple reports out now, none of it contradicted 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.440 with the White House. Yesterday, Donald Trump held a meeting 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.400 both with Ukraine and many of the European great powers 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.559 ahead of the summit, where they agreed quote on Ukrainian 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:38.679 red lines with Europe. Before the Putin summit, the US 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:42.360 leader told European peers he will not negotiate territorial issues 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.680 during Friday's meeting, but will seek in immediate ceasefire. Now 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:50.160 included within that provision for a European ceasefire, and I 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:53.400 want to reiterate this are some of the things which 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.720 are already non starters for the Russians. 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:56.439 I'm going to read it here. 0:08:56.520 --> 0:09:01.320 Quote ceasefire as a prerequisite for any further talks. Quote, 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:04.640 any territorial discussion will start from the current front line, 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:09.200 quote binding Western security agreements that Russia must accept, quote 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.640 Ukrainian participation in the talks, and quote support from both 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:16.040 the US and Europe, including Ukraine for any deal. Now 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.280 Already on the Ukrainian side, it's going to be very 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.160 difficult to get a deal. Why because Zelensky has a 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:25.080 total ability to set the table and to bring anything 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:28.000 to some sort of national referendum, which he's not even 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.960 allowed to pursue any sort of peace on his own accord. 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:32.920 He has to bring it to the people. Now, he 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:34.480 may not even want to bring it to the people 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.199 because apparently, according to their own polls, the Ukrainian people 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.760 are actually much more pro peace than he is. Whereas 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:44.120 his entire administration, remember, he's deeply unpopular already for some 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.800 of the authoritarian anti corruption laws that he just signed 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.720 into office. He's already been dragging down in the polls. 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.920 There's been no election, The Ukrainian opposition has either been 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.599 banned or jailed inside of the country. Why would you 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:57.439 want to give that up if you're already a leader 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:59.640 of that country. His vision for how this thing was 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.480 going to go is already out of step with the 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.960 Ukrainian secondary to that is, quote, some sort of security 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:09.520 guarantee that Russia can that Russia must accept. The security 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:13.559 guarantee would effectively be some sort of NATO style security 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.320 guarantee outside of NATO. So Trump is trying to play 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:17.800 two sides of this coin, where he's like, well, it 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.439 won't be from NATO. It's like, dude, if the US 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.880 has a treaty bound organized or treaty bound obligation to 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:27.600 defend every inch of let's say, eighty percent of Ukraine, 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.000 that might as well be NATO. I mean, it doesn't 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:33.920 matter right functionally whether it's America or whether it's outside 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:37.000 of NATO or not. If all of the NATO powers 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:40.040 have an obligation to come and to defend your territory, 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:41.400 then that's basically NATO. 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:42.920 Why would Russia live with that? 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:46.199 And then the final one is that Russia must agree 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:49.200 to the current front line and they must not demand 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:50.439 any more of their territory. 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.080 Well, again, for people who. 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:55.160 Don't even follow the conflict, Russia just had its best 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:58.840 breakthrough on the frontline in over a year. Part of 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.680 the reason why a sea fire for them right now 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.920 may not make a lot of sense is because they're rolling. 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.760 Every single day that the war continues, they're doing better. 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:13.079 And then finally there's this theory of severe consequences. Russia 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:16.319 is the most sanctioned country on Earth by the United States. 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.959 I actually don't think people know that, more than Iran, 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.599 more than any other place. There's not another sanction that 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:25.000 can be left. That's why they're threatening these quote secondary 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:28.840 sanctions right Well, they've put fifty percent sanctions or tariffs 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:29.439 on India. 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.520 India has not budged a single inch, not one. 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.360 In fact, they're going to Moscow, They're going to China, 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.840 to Beijing. The two biggest buyers of Russian oil are 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.160 China and India. China by far, by the way, and 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:44.120 it faces no current consequences. The Senate has a bill 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.840 which Trump is threatened to support, which would put five 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:50.079 hundred percent tariffs on any buyer of Russian oil. 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.240 But let's think about the consequences of that. 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.640 That would mean a five hundred percent tariff on China, 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:58.080 which would effectively bring the US commerce industry, retail industry, 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:00.240 e commerce, et cetera to a complete. 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:01.199 And shut off trade. 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.040 Is everybody willing to shut down our economy and all 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:07.520 of our global trade for Ukraine. I mean this is where, 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.480 you know, it gets back to where we all had 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.240 to pay higher gas prices because of the Ukrainian conflict. 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.640 That wasn't popular. Actually, even though a lot of people 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:16.520 were like, yeah, sure, I'll pay higher gas, it's. 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:19.120 Like, yeah, I didn't work out the beginning in theory. 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:20.320 Yeah you got you got a lot poor. 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.120 Most people paid a big FD Ukraine tax at the 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.880 pump for years and instead, by the way, they still 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:27.920 continue to pay it, at least in some form. 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:29.320 But my point remain. 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.720 Oh, I mean, I'm not even talking about the European 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:35.480 consequences all of those you know, the summers where their 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:41.439 electricity prices were sky high. It deregularly destabilized their entire economies. 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.839 The German economy it took a massive hit. 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:46.720 I mean, it basically looked like their entire manufacturing sector 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.360 was underwritten by cheap oil and gas. Like their whole 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.680 future of their economies is up in the air right now. 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.679 All that being said is just to say, you know, 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.320 Trump would always say we have the cards and he's right. 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.200 For Ukraine, on Russia. It's not right. 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:05.880 I mean, absent full blown US military NATO intervention. 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:06.520 What else can you do? 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:10.520 Yeah, this is not a military capable of adopting NATO weaponry. 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:11.400 They've proven that. 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.360 They only and I'll get to this in a bit, 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.439 they only know how to fight in a Soviet way. 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.760 Would just throw as much manpower into the trench as possible. 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.520 You think they're going to beat the Russians at their 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:22.600 own game. They have millions more people than you. 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:23.520 Yeah, that's right. 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.680 I mean, I guess the alternative view with regard to 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.360 Russia's recent success on the front lines would be, you know, 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:33.280 this has been going on for years now and they've 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:36.240 basically been stuck in place. There have been minor advances 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.200 on the Russian side, but it hasn't been like you know, yeah, 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.439 they're not taking on Yeah, it hasn't been dramatic. And 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.760 that these latest games may be a result of them 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.480 really throwing a lot of force in one area to 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.640 try to improve their bargaining position going into this summit, 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.360 in these negotiations. It's kind of the alternative explanation as 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.320 far as Trump goes, I guess we're just hoping since 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.600 he goes back on his word all the time, that 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.600 maybe he doesn't actually mean anything that he's saying here 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.960 about just like I'm in lockstep with the Europeans and 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.360 the Ukrainians and Russia's going to pay a price, et cetera, 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:12.040 et cetera. Very possible, very possible that Trump doesn't mean 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:13.800 a word that he is saying about any of this 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.319 and will completely flip once he's face to face with 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:20.280 Vladimir Putin, because famously he's very influenced by whoever happens 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:21.960 to be in front of him at that moment. 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:23.120 So we'll see. 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.160 I just want to zoom out though, also for a 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.960 second and talk about how utterly hypocritical and preposterous it 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.200 is at this point in time for the Americans to 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:34.760 posture like they care so deeply about territorial integrity. We're 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:36.960 going to cover later in the show how Israel is 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:40.920 now greenlit this massive and very consequential expansion of settlements 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:45.240 that basically makes a two state solution impossible. It's directly intended, 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:48.600 according to Smotrich himself, who was in charge of such things, 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:52.080 directly intended to make a two state Palestinian you know, 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.160 solution completely impossible, completely. 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:55.320 Off the table. 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:58.160 And of course we are also green lighting the complete 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:02.560 annexation of Gaza as well, so West Bank annexed, Gaza annexed, 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.560 and that we are we are part of, we are 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.640 green lighting, we are funding, we're providing diplomatic cover for. 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.160 And then on the other hand, we're going to pretend like, 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:15.080 you know, territorial integrity is all is you know, some 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:18.520 rarefied sakersang thing. I mean, it's just the levels of 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:20.560 hypocrisy are so brazen in your faces. 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.840 Yeah, and I mean I've talked about before, but you know, 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.240 all of the rhetoric that you hear on Ukraine, They're like, 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.320 oh my god, Russia's killing civilians. 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:29.680 Look, I'm not minimizing any civilian death. 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:33.480 I think it's bad, but Russia has killed, you know, 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.520 on a daily basis. They'll be like, wow, twelve civilians 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.080 were killed in Ukraine. I think that's horrible. How many 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.720 civilians is Israel kill every single day with the US bomb? 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.440 What do we who are we talking to? You know 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:49.040 about this same booka of the massacre. It was a genocide, 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:52.360 that's what the Ukrainians say. Yeah, I mean again, look 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.920 at the death toll and compare it to the Palestinians. 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.080 It's like we can't talk out of both sides of 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.760 our mouth, and instead we just need to all be honest. 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.920 As a great power conflict, the goal was to try 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:05.960 and destroy the Russians bya Ukraine as a proxy state. 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:10.359 It failed miserably. I never thought I, my great naivete, 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.560 was having any confidence in the US global hagienemy on banking. 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.120 I thought that there was no way the Russian economy 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:18.320 would survive. I have been stu there's a lot of 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.640 lessons actually in the way that the Russians have been 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.280 able to It shows you that there's only two things 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:23.680 that matter. If you can make guns and if you 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:25.880 can pump oil, that's literally all that you need. You 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.560 don't need America at all. And you know they're doing 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:29.160 just fine. 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.520 The world is way more prepared to move on from 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:32.000 US than we. 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:37.200 It's true, I truly truly underestimated not only them, but 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:42.160 I vastly overestimated the power of US sanctions and have agemony. 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.160 And I kind of wish that we hadn't done it 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.400 for a conflict which has no bearing whatsoever on the 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:55.080 United States. Let's get to President Zelenski, who recently had 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.760 a press conference in London where he's been meeting with 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.560 all of the European powers setting the table for the summit. 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:01.400 Let's take a listen. 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:07.760 I told a President Trump and all European allies Peutin 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:11.040 is bluffing. Putin is bluffing, that sanctions is nothing and 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:16.680 they don't work. In fact, sanctions are hitting Russian or 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:21.119 economy hard. That Putin definitely does not want peace. He 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:25.720 will occupy Ukraine. And we all understand that Putin can 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:30.399 not fool anyone. We need future and further pressure and 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.960 European and American sanctions against Russia. 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.160 So you can see it's like Putin doesn't want peace, 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.359 and I mean all of the table for that is 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.280 that I don't want peace either, right, is that we 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:42.560 want to continue fighting, throwing our people into the breach. 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:44.760 Let's put the next one, please up on the screen, 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:47.160 just to you know, continue what I was saying. Trump 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:51.440 promises quote very severe consequences at a military level, absent 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:55.560 sending troops actually on the ground. I was speaking with 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:58.639 some military experts yesterday. There's not a whole lot left. 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.000 Biden gave him everything that they possibly have asked for. 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.119 The critique from that is that, oh, he gave it 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:04.960 to them too late. But we are where we are. 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.679 We're in reality, right, We're in The average age on 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.240 the Ukrainian front line is probably between forty and sixty 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:10.720 years old. 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:12.960 Nobody even really knows what that is. 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:17.639 Horror, it's horrifying what has already happened to the entire population. 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.679 But you know, as you said, the hope is that 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:22.680 maybe he's speaking out of both sides of his mouth 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.960 and keeping everything up for negotiation. But I'm just not 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.760 so sure. Considering I would have thought that. You know, 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:31.240 in the first month of the Trump administration, we have 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:32.280 the Gaza ceasefire. 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:34.080 I was like, wow, I was like, this is amazing. 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:36.520 Right, well, you know, now we are where we are 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:40.080 where Wick cough is used talks with Iran as cover 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.840 for a strike, where on the Israeli side we just 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.320 keep saying things like, well, it's up to Netan. Yahoo. 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.600 You know, It's like, well, here, it seems like we've 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:51.159 done a total about face. From the initial days of 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.720 the administration, Trump sending two hundred and fifty million dollars 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:58.720 in additional military equipment, Trump continuing, you know, these via 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:04.280 European arms sets, but still fueling the conflict, sending patriot batteries, 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:06.800 threatening Russia with sanctions. This is straight out of the 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.560 Biden playbook. The India thing is literally out of Lindsey 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:12.080 Graham playbook. Has been wanting to do it since day 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.640 one at a military level, just to underscore that. Let's 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:16.879 put this one, next one please on the screen, just 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:20.520 to show everybody what the military reality is here. Excellent 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:23.479 piece written by some people were actually military experts, and 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.359 they say, quote, Ukraine's once nimble army is mired in 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:29.520 Soviet decision making. I remember reading this over the last 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:33.240 couple of years about how NATO tactics and others were encouraged, 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.600 NATO weaponry and a lot of these other things training 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:37.560 to try and get the Ukrainians to fight that way. 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.399 But their response is basically, look, we don't even know 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:42.199 how to do that. But also this is just the 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:45.000 way that we're trained, and we've found some level of 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:50.000 battlefield success. But attritional warfare favors the great power, not 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:53.920 the small power, especially the one that has no industrial base, 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.560 that has no capacity to wage war on its own 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:59.240 and would basically be giving up in a single day 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:01.359 twenty four hour p period. If the United States and 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:04.200 Europe pulled the plug from the conflict, big person who 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:07.120 is able to sustain that on a long enough basis 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:09.760 is the Russians. And there was also this theory that 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:11.280 lots and I also got this wrong. 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:13.080 I'll admit it if I look back. 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:14.679 You know, one of the things that brought down the 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:17.560 Soviet Union, or at least stirred up a lot of 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:22.159 internal descent was the death toll in Afghanistan during the 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:25.520 Soviet War. And you know, the Russians have nobody knows 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:27.800 exactly how many troops have been killed, but it's a lot, 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:31.400 hundreds of thousands probably, you know, the Russians will claim. Otherwise, 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:33.760 there doesn't seem to be very much. There just doesn't 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:35.560 seem to be a whole lot of descent. They somehow 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:38.240 seem to have solve that problem. I guess the population 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:40.240 just supports it, unlike they did in Afghanistan. 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:42.240 I really have no other explanation. 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:46.119 I also read that they're paying very generous salaries to 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:47.960 a lot of the draftees or a lot of the 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.040 people who will come in from the Caucuses or these 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:53.240 other regions, much more than they could ever earn otherwise, 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:56.040 and so even the widowers and the families are like, well, 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:58.280 it sucks, you know, to lose your husband, but I'm 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:00.320 getting a pension for the rest of my life. I 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:02.119 don't know how they did it. I'm not an expert 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:04.479 or anything, but what I thought that this could be 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:06.680 an Afghanistan type situation for them. 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:07.679 It doesn't appear to be. 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.919 People. They seem willing as a polity to accept hundreds 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:13.840 of thousands, if not millions of casualties in Ukraine. There 0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:17.080 has been zero actual internal descent since twenty twenty two. 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:18.240 Yeah, and a lot of the draft. 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:20.119 In fact, it may have worked out for them because 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:23.199 the Western style elites they all just left Russia and 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:25.280 so everybody who's left is like, yeah, we're on board, 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:26.360 We're you know, we're on the train. 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:26.840 Let's go. 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:27.280 Yeah. 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:31.399 They have a large, you know, relatively poor, rural population 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:34.919 that is committed, that believes in the war goals, like 0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:37.880 believes in the aims, and you know for whom those 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:41.119 those salaries are quite appealing. And so I, you know, 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:43.600 I'm I don't know, but that's my guess as to 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:45.919 why they've been able to sustain this high rate of 0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:50.960 casualty without having any notable significant societal backlash as far 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:53.760 as we can tell, you know, as outsiders looking in. So, 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:57.080 you know, with regard to the ongoing war tactics, there 0:21:57.119 --> 0:21:59.840 was actually a great quote in that piece. One of 0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:03.640 the said, you know, big Soviet army beats little Soviet army, 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:06.840 basically saying like, yeah, they use these same terrible tactics 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:09.680 of just throwing men into a meat grinder and never 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:12.280 wanting to retreat even when it makes sense, letting their 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:15.320 troops get encircled and slaughtered. But they have a lot 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:17.280 more people than we do, so in the end, how 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:19.520 do you think that that is ultimately going to work out? 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:19.879 You know? 0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:23.359 There was also some some quotes in here from a 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:26.480 guy who's fifty years old wanted to go fight, signed up. 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:29.359 He was like, you know, he'd never handled a weapon before, 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:31.840 had zero training, never been in the military before, but 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:35.080 wanted to serve and thought that he could go in 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:38.080 and get some training and go do something that wasn't 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:39.960 really on the front line. I mean, again, he's fifty 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:42.160 years old, he's never been in warfare before, he's never 0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:45.160 fired a weapon before, and they didn't even give him 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:47.200 a gun before they send him to the front lines, 0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:50.399 and he you know, he laughed, he was he was like, 0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:51.080 I'm not doing this. 0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:52.159 That's the Soviet thing. 0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:53.760 I've everything, I'm not doing this. 0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:56.679 And apparently they have a lot of deserters because of 0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:59.280 exactly this. They're like, you didn't give me any training. 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:01.439 You're sending one in the front lines. The you know, 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:03.800 guy who's in charge here is just willing to, you know, 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:06.680 let us get encircled and slaughtered, like we're not doing it. 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:10.400 And so, you know, you also have that dynamic unfolding 0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:12.680 on the ground here too. But you know, your point 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:14.960 about us having all the cards with regard to Ukraine 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.560 is a really important one, really important. You know, the 0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:20.959 party that we really have the most ability to pressure 0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:21.640 is the Ukrainians. 0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:23.680 They are very dependent on us. That's just the reality. 0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:27.240 And so you know, pressure needs to be put on them, 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:30.119 and it needs to be done in order to secure 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:32.720 a deal that yes, they're going to be unhappy with, right. 0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:35.280 It's it's not like in order to bring this war 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:38.280 too close now it would require territorial concessions. 0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:39.600 There's just no doubt about that. 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:45.159 Certainly, crimea you know, Eastern Ukraine and what needs to 0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:47.760 happen is there needs to be some ability to create 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:51.320 face saving for Zelenski, Like, if you're interested in actually 0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:53.879 bringing this thing to a close, you put pressure behind 0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:56.520 the scenes, You try to resolve the underlying issues that 0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.919 led Russia to, you know, create to launch this illegal 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:02.480 invasion to begin with, and you try to create some 0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:05.160 sort of face saving pretext for Zelenski so that he 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:08.280 has because his ego is massive, clearly, and he's backed 0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:10.880 himself sort of into a rhetorical corner, so that he 0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.000 has some sort of an out And it just seems 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:16.640 from the beginning the complete opposite policy has been pursued. 0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:19.320 You know, the pressure has been on the Russian side, 0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:22.639 so Lencia gets publicly humiliated. That actually doesn't help you 0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:25.320 in terms of trying to get him to back off 0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:27.960 of his egoistic position, which you should be doing is 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.600 pumping him up in public and then putting the pressure 0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:33.639 on behind the scenes to force an outcome that again 0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:36.920 is like not ideal and is going to be deeply painful, 0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:41.040 but increasingly the Ukrainian population is actually open to Yeah. 0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:44.680 I think that look all well said the prop the summit, 0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:47.040 you know, the initial by the way, as you know, 0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:49.000 I loved the initial office meeting. 0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:49.640 I thought it was great. 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:51.200 I was like, he needs to be put into his place, 0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:53.840 and finally that we can break you know, in terms 0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:56.399 of our so called special relationship, we could force him 0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:58.880 to the table. But since then it's like I said, 0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:02.959 Trump totally about face and this is not an advisor's thing. 0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:05.920 I really believe that he seemed to think that he 0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.840 could just use his relationship with Putin to bring the 0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:12.639 conflict to an end, and I did not understand the 0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:16.359 fundamental spot in Putin. The thing is about Putin is 0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:21.320 he's crazy, but he has very rational objectives from within 0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:25.280 his worldview. If you look at it, he disregards which 0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:29.240 is insane, you know, the existence of all of these outs, 0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:33.080 like these breakaway republics. He thinks the Treaty of Breslatosk 0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:35.679 is like one of the greatest disasters to ever befall 0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:38.480 the history of Russia, and that the tragedy was the 0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:41.280 fall of the Soviet Union from the demise of a 0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:43.520 great power, and that they've been bullied by the West. 0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:45.880 Like I said, he is a czar through and through 0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:49.680 in his security, defense or depth vision. Well for him, 0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:53.000 if you look at him in that you know view. 0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:56.560 It's personality has nothing to do with it. Yes, he 0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:59.720 will use you as a personality to get relations or 0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:01.880 any of it, but he only cares about one thing. 0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:05.440 He invaded Ukraine for a reason and he will continue, 0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:09.520 you know, along the same reason path. They've committed their 0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:13.160 entire country towards this end. They will not simply give 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:17.320 up because of a nice phone call. Sanctions don't matter anymore, none. 0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:17.720 Of this stuff. 0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:22.080 It's all about territory and if and with the current side, 0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:24.720 I mean even on the Ukrainian side and the Europeans, 0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:28.360 they're like, we will never recognize diplomatically any of this territory. 0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:30.120 Maybe we can live with it, but we will never 0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:33.679 diplomatically recognize it. I'm like, I just don't see a 0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:36.040 scenario where any of this stuff is going to fly 0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:39.520 right where there's no How can you normalize relations or 0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:41.720 any of that in the future. I guess the Korean model, 0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:44.080 you know, some of these you know technically Koreas, you know, 0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:46.199 state of war with a treaty and all of that. 0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:49.199 It is possible, but it's very difficult to see with 0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:51.719 the emotions and the way things are right now. And 0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:53.840 you know, I come if I tie it back to Israel, 0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:55.600 something I love that you said in one of our 0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:57.840 last shows. You're like, Israel exists. It's not about right 0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:00.399 to exist. We have to deal where we are today. 0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:02.760 That's it, you know, we just have to look and 0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:07.040 it's not just it's not nice, but that's geopolitics. It's 0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:11.159 you know, there's no rights to territory. There's simply the 0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.959 ability basically to take it or not. In Israel context, 0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:17.480 it's kind of flipped because we're the ones enabling the 0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:20.439 Russia of that region, and then out two sides of 0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:22.879 our mouth, we're speaking differently. Yeah, and I get that it's. 0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:26.240 Sometime more to blow up that international law consensus of 0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:29.240 like territorial integrity, integrity and human rights than any other 0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:30.520 country on the planet. 0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:34.760 So yeah, again, it's like the country that invaded Iraq 0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.480 based on the Coalition of the Willing, is going to 0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:41.080 go around telling people about territorial integrity. What are we 0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:44.520 doing here? You know, the country that toppled Libya and 0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:47.800 turned it into a failed state, Syria. Look at where 0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:51.280 it is right now, led by literally al Qaeda. You know, 0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:54.119 it's like one of these where this commitment to democratic 0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.160 norms or any of that stuff. It has never been 0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:58.800 US policy. And in fact, I think that you know, 0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:01.760 by by holding that up and continuing to act the 0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:04.639 way that we've done, it's exactly why we are where 0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:07.359 we are with Russia, with Ukraine, with so many of 0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:10.200 these other different conflicts, and yeah, it just really holds 0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:12.520 us back. So anyway, that's the table set. We'll see 0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:14.760 what the hell happens. Yeah, it could all go otherwise. 0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:17.639 I remember hell Sinki where it was totally different. Yeahright, 0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:19.760 so it could be very pro putin. 0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:23.879 I could absolutely possible that we're eating Crow by Monday, 0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:26.959 and we would be happy to do it. US programming note, 0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:30.600 we are going to forego the Friday show in order 0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:33.800 for Saga and Ryan actually going to cover the results 0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:37.320 of the summit on Saturday morning. So we're going to 0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.200 have a Saturday show and Friday show, so everybody look 0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:40.720 for that. 0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:44.880 That's right, because the powers that be decided that Alaska 0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:47.160 is five hours behind, and so by the time we 0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:49.360 even get all the news and all that, it probably 0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:51.479 won't be It could be midnight or something like that 0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:53.920 if it all runs late, which, by the way, having 0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:56.440 covered some of these diplomatic summits, they always go way 0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:59.800 longer than they're supposed to. The meetings are scheduled twenty minutes. 0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:03.520 The last an hour and fifty minutes the pressentforate. 0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:05.960 Ways to get the translation of what happened. 0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:07.400 Yes, the instant readouts. 0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:09.960 They're going to hold a just joint press conference, which 0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:11.800 that's gonna be kind of fun. Actually, that's one of 0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:15.440 my favorite traditions from the Washington Press Corps is it's 0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:18.719 called a two and two where the American Press Corps, 0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:20.880 when you get called on by your president, you actually 0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:23.960 have the opportunity to ask putin a question. And so 0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:27.120 whoever gets that, please do your homework. Don't ask some 0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:30.560 dumb ass question. Actually ask something which is useful for 0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:33.520 both for the Russians and for ourselves as well, So 0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:35.480 you know, don't try and make yourself a dou hero 0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:38.120 looking at you, Jim Acosta or any of these other people. 0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:43.760 So we haven't done a lot on polling and where 0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:44.200 we are. 0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:46.040 As we head into I mean, I know we still 0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:48.000 have a good bit of time before the midterms, but 0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:51.520 trust me, these things are already taking shape, already heating up. 0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:53.480 So we wanted to do spend a little bit of 0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.280 time on the horse race and taking a look at 0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:58.200 where things stand as best we can tell as of today. 0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:02.200 Harryington did a breakdown civically on the issue of inflation 0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.000 and how Trump has really fallen off a cliff on 0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:08.040 the issue that voters continue to say is their number 0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.360 one concern. Let's go ahead and take a listen to that. 0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:13.280 Look voters on Trump and inflation. He won the twenty 0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:15.880 twenty four election because he was more trusted on inflation 0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:19.160 than Kamala Harris was led by a margin of nine points. 0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:21.000 Look at where his net approval. 0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:24.480 Stands today though on inflation, my goodness, gracious, on the 0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:26.720 issue that got him elected. He led on by nine 0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:28.840 points on it last year, and now he's twenty five 0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:31.880 points underwater. As I said, this is a complete and 0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:34.480 total disaster for the president of the United States. Trust 0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:36.720 which party more inflation? You go back to the twenty 0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:39.200 twenty two mid terms. Look at this, Republicans led by 0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:41.560 thirteen points on which party was more trust in inflation. 0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:44.080 Look at where we are now, nearly a fifteen point 0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:47.080 shift in the Democrats direction. It's within the margin of error, 0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:49.720 but the Democrats up by a point, This just looks 0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:53.000 totally different from where we were back in twenty twenty two, when, 0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:55.560 of course Republicans took back the House. That's what Democrats 0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:57.320 are trying to do this time around. What is the 0:30:57.320 --> 0:30:59.160 top issue for you right now? 0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:00.239 It's a run of way. 0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:04.040 It's inflation. It's thirty four percent compared to the economy, 0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:06.880 which is basically very similar at sixteen percent, Medicare and 0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:09.640 Social Security at fourteen percent. But the bottom line is 0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:12.680 voters in Paul after Paul after Paul say that Donald 0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.160 Trump has taken his eye off the ball, off the 0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:17.600 big issue of the day, which is inflation. And that 0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.160 is why Donald Trump is way underwater on this issue, 0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:22.600 and it's why Democrats have caught up to Republicans on 0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:24.840 the all important issue of inflation and. 0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:27.160 Tager In some ways, I think that last piece about 0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:30.360 which issues are most important to people is maybe the 0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:35.200 most devastating for Republicans because, as Harrynton points out, Trump 0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:39.080 is now very unpopular on any economic issue, but inflation, 0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:42.240 you know, certainly so inflation is the number one issue. 0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:44.800 Economy in general is the number two issue. 0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.320 I don't think just like firing the BLS person and 0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:50.080 not putting out jobs report is really going to fix 0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:53.400 that for them. And then number three is Medicare and 0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:56.240 Social Security. Well, what do you think that's about. That's 0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:59.320 about the Big Beautiful Bill. That's why people are concerned 0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:02.320 about Medicare. And I do feel like the Big Beautiful 0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.760 Bill is that, Like I don't, we probably need to 0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:06.960 talk about it more because I think for average people 0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:10.720 it's factoring into their perception of this presidency much more 0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:12.360 than it's sort of given credit for. 0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:14.360 Because just think about the numbers. 0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:15.920 You have millions of people or now have to be 0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:18.360 concerned about whether or not they're going to have healthcare 0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.640 going forward. And you pair that with the fact that 0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.200 the way that's being financed is a giant tax cut, 0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:26.440 predominantly for the rich, and it is an utter political disaster. 0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:28.800 Especially on the Medicaid front. Right yere, You're going to 0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:31.400 see some impact. And I mean, by the way, part 0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:33.800 of the problem with the messaging or whatever around this 0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:35.640 is that you know, for a lot of people, they 0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:37.240 didn't necessarily read Medicaid. 0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:38.600 They thought maybe it's aid Medicare. 0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:41.600 Yeah, and there are changes to Medicare as well, but 0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:43.160 the bigger changes is certainly medic. 0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:46.240 Your Medicaid snap, any of those types of programs. By 0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:48.480 the way, just as you and I were talking, there 0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:50.760 is a new report out that shows that the core 0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:55.440 producer price the PPI inflation came in at three point 0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:58.080 seven percent versus two point nine percent, and the stock 0:32:58.120 --> 0:32:59.360 futures are diving literally. 0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:01.200 Oh really, and I are talking right now. 0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:03.840 The wholesale price rose by point nine percent in July, 0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:08.479 which is much much more than, much more than expected. Quote, 0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:11.560 the Producer Price Index, which features final demand goods and services, 0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:14.400 jump point nine compared to the Dow Jones estimate of 0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:18.040 zero point two percent. That's excluding food and energy prices. 0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:21.520 So that's particularly wholesale goods, which is going to show 0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:23.320 up at the grocery store. I know, point nine doesn't 0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:25.520 sound like a lot, but it's much more about the 0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:28.760 impact of the overall rise inflation. It's almost three times higher. 0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:31.080 It's as high as has been since April of twenty 0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:33.320 twenty one in terms of the jump. So that is 0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:36.120 one where it could be a precursor to higher inflation. 0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:38.280 Just again, though, that's going to be something that if 0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:40.680 the economists, stock marketing, all these people are worried about, 0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:43.400 that could be something that's showing up for you. Combine 0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:46.000 it with the Social Security, that Medicare, any of this 0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:48.760 stuff where again look, I mean social Security didn't get touched, 0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:53.760 but the medicaid stuff, and in particular the tax cut, 0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:56.440 because again, the thing about the tax cut that everybody 0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.400 doesn't remember is that that's when the Trump presidency in 0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:02.240 twenty seventeen went off the rails. The first six months 0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:05.880 of the first Trump administration was an outright battle inside 0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:09.560 between like Paul Ryan and Jared Kushner and Steve Bannon. 0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:11.640 Remember Steve Bannon had his white board for all the 0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:14.200 things that they wanted to do, and there was even 0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.680 the theater about the border wall. There was this floated 0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:19.040 tax called the Border Adjustment Tax, which by the way, 0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:22.200 would have been a great tax which went after remittances 0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:24.319 and trade. It was supposed to be an initial kind 0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:27.799 of trade imbalance way to correct with Mexico, and that 0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:31.920 would have financed immigration enforcement. And the entire GEOP was like, yeah. 0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:32.400 We're not doing that. 0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.080 They're like, we're cutting taxes for rich people and that's it, right. 0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:37.319 And so by the time that came out with the 0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:41.680 corporate tax, the reduced taxes not only for corporations, but 0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:45.800 for the highest income brackets that is really where Trump 0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:49.080 sank to his lowest ever level of support. It makes 0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:52.799 total sense to me. It's very similar to Obamacare. You know, 0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:55.400 if you think back to the coverage of the twenty 0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:58.000 ten election, the anger that was bubbling up in the 0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:00.600 town halls was over Obamacare. But the country, even national 0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:03.560 media can kind of moved on from there by that point. 0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:06.279 They were talking about various different things, but that is 0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.640 what slammed them at the ballot box. So it's very 0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:12.800 possible that inflation and in particularly the capriciousness around trade policy. 0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:15.480 What I have found is that Americans don't want to 0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:17.719 tune into the news on the economy. They want it 0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:19.600 to just run. And so when they have to check 0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:23.120 every day, not only are their portfolio or businesses have 0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:26.680 to pause deals and unpause, have to pause hiring and 0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:29.560 then maybe reduce salary or if you have to think 0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:31.560 about policy when it impacts their business. 0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:32.640 That's when people get upset. 0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:34.480 They don't want it to They only want to pay 0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:36.799 attention whenever it's good, but when it's bad, that's not 0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:39.439 what they want. And by and large, that's mostly where things. 0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:39.719 Are right now. 0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:41.200 Well, and you point it out to there are certain 0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:43.800 certain key items where you can really see that price 0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.279 hike directly as a result of tariffs. In fact, I 0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:48.839 sent us this morning, Rocan is doing something smart. He's 0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:52.840 introducing legislation to roll back, specifically the tariffs on coffee 0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:56.359 because because we hit Brazil so hard, you know, because 0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:58.560 we're mad at them over their court decisions with regard 0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:02.799 to bolscenario, that is causing coffee prices to spike dramatically. 0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:07.040 It also is causing beef prices to write to spike dramatically. 0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:10.399 Good probably for American cattle ranchers, but if you're trying 0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:12.560 to include steak in your diet here in the US, 0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:14.839 you know it's going to become much more costly. So 0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:17.280 in any case, I thought that was a clever tactical 0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:18.520 move from him and. 0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:20.719 The coffee the pressure off yet, look is something I 0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:23.399 think the vast majority of Americans drink coffee every single day. 0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:25.520 If not, it's probably like seventy eighty percent. I need 0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:27.840 to check the data. But the point is actually is 0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:30.600 that if you look at the way it will really 0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:33.120 impact you is if you buy it at a retail 0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:35.479 chain like Starbucks or anything. By the way Starbucks are anything, 0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:37.879 has anyone been recently? I never go to Starbucks or whatever. 0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:40.200 It's like five dollars, So what the hell is going 0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:40.600 on here? 0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:41.319 Yeah? 0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:43.840 Exactly. I was like, I was like, whoa. I mostly 0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:46.640 brew almost entirely all my own coffee. I'm pretty much, 0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:49.759 you know, immune from whatever the retail market. But every 0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:51.560 once in a while you'll just check and you're like, 0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:52.720 what the hell is going. 0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:54.279 I mean, even if you're not going to Starbucks, Like 0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:56.839 how many you know, blue collar guys are going out, 0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.480 you know, early morning, they're stopping at seven eleven getting 0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:01.400 their cup of as they're on the road how to 0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:03.600 do their job. I mean, this is very common, you 0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:07.520 know experience, cross class experience, and those would be the 0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:10.480 people who will be most sensitive to those price increases. 0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.280 And so even if it's not five bucks at Starbucks, 0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:14.440 you're still going to notice. 0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:15.040 That price increase. 0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:15.640 Absolutely. 0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.240 Let's go and get to this next slide that shows 0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:20.319 you where the generic ballot is. 0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:22.319 So this is just if you ask people. 0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:25.800 Would you vote for the you know, whoever the Democrat 0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.480 is or whoever the Republican is in your congressional district 0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:31.759 without specific names attached who comes down on top and 0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:34.680 you can see. Listen, let's all take the polls of 0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:37.120 the grain of salt at this point in our lives, 0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:39.880 at this point in American history. However, you have a 0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:43.720 very consistent trend here in favor of Democrats. The overall 0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:46.880 RCP average has them up three point five percent on 0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:50.600 the generic ballot. You've had one poll from Yahoo News. 0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.440 Actually this Atlas Intel one is the highest one up 0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.640 on the board of plus eight for Democrats. More common 0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:59.400 is more in the two three four type of range. 0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:03.320 But you know, a significant edge, especially when you consider 0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.520 that Republicans have a very narrow edge in the House. Now, 0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:09.120 what is going to happen with all this redrawing of 0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:13.080 the maps in Texas and California, New York and whatever's 0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:16.400 going on there. I don't know, maybe Republicans, but I mean, 0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:18.959 I think the very fact that they're pulling the fire 0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:21.880 alarm to potentially do a new sense is to redraw 0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:24.399 these maps, et cetera, shows you they don't feel real 0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:29.080 great about their position going into the midterms either. Now, 0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:31.120 on the other side, on the flip side, let's put 0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:33.520 this next piece up on the screen. I think this 0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:37.160 is what Republicans are kind of comforting themselves with. The 0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:42.720 Democratic Party is wildly unpopular. Net favorability plunges to near 0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:48.920 three decade low according to polls, and to me, Sager, 0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:51.440 I think this reflects a lot of things. I mean 0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:53.320 think there's just like a lot of mistrust of the 0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:57.560 Democratic Party overall. But the reason it's reached this historic 0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:01.360 level of unpopularity, you know, and this is reflected in 0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:03.960 the data, is because there are a lot of Democrats 0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:06.400 that are disgusted with the Democratic Party. And I do 0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:09.080 think Israel is a big part of that because it's 0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:12.560 just such a you know, moral atrocity, it's such a 0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:16.479 there's such massive divergence in you know, the numbers are 0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:20.120 starker than maybe any other issue I've seen, the distance 0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:22.040 between Democratic leadership and where. 0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:22.440 The base is. 0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:24.400 Then you add to that that they feel that they 0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.840 aren't fighting the Trump administration. They aren't you going to 0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.840 the mat to try to fight for democracy, fight against 0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:33.400 their legislation in the ways. 0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:33.920 That they want to see. 0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:36.280 And then you see like Chuck Schumer and King Jeffrey's 0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:38.360 not even willing to endorse their on mom Donny. I mean, 0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:43.920 they're just an embarrassing, pathetic mess, especially like the higher 0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:47.160 up you go, the more embarrassing and cringeworthy it becomes. 0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:49.440 So I think that's a big part of why their 0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:51.839 favorability has sunk to such historic lows. 0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:54.760 I saw it actually in the DC context. Dave Weigel 0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:58.000 was like, you know, because the DC mayor and the 0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:01.319 politicians were all caught off guard, and Wigel was like, oh, 0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:03.759 you've only had seven months to prepare when he said 0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:05.239 he was going to do it on the campaign trail. 0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:07.480 It's like, so, if you're Chuck Schumer, fine, you know 0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:10.080 you're not focused on Washington, d C. If you're Mayor Bowser, 0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:10.719 it's like, what you. 0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:12.359 Never thought about? It was like, you guys literally never 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:12.800 thought about it. 0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:14.759 He had no plan for how this was all going 0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:17.839 to go and police chief embarrassing yourself on national TV 0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:20.560 or anything. It's like, so, what's happening? Yeah? Right, It's 0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:22.759 like I think that's what's so frustrating Ryan for. 0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:26.319 A lot of a councilwoman who was who's more on 0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:29.440 the left, who was disgusted with her, and like, you know, 0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:31.600 you're not even going to like try a lawsuit to 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:33.960 you know, may at least force them to say what 0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:36.720 the emergency is like, at least go through that process. 0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:39.000 But instead it was just like, eh, okay, what are 0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:39.440 we going to do? 0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:43.640 Yeah, I just thought it was crazy the way that well. Actually, 0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:47.080 DC another good example Eleanor Holmes Norton. If you live 0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:50.040 in the Washington is your not she has a non 0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:53.640 voting power in the House of Representatives. But it's symbolic. 0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:56.280 But I mean, you have your politician, you're popularly elected. 0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:58.640 What is she eighty eight years old? She has not 0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.480 made a single public statement on what's happened, and is 0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:04.520 running for really and is running for reelection and by 0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:07.200 all accounts is basic. Look, I mean, you know, to 0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:10.360 avoiding libel or whatever, hasn't showed up to a lot 0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:12.719 of events. Yeah, a lot of questions by her some 0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:16.000 of her constituents about her health, the DC political machine 0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:19.799 doing nothing about it. And it's like, you look at that. 0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:23.399 If you're watching a d C lib which statistically ninety 0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.719 five percent of you are, you should be really mad 0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:28.320 about that. I mean, you know, if everyone on license 0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:31.000 plate says no taxation without representation, but it's like even 0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:35.000 your representation is doing nothing. Again, I'm not saying you 0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:37.480 know that I'm that if you're a Republican you should 0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:39.520 be like, yeah, that's hilarious, But if you're a Democrat 0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:41.080 you should be mad. I mean, you should think about 0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:44.080 it in the Republican context from back in nine. That's 0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:46.320 exactly why they voted out so many of their leaders 0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:49.520 in nine, or in twenty ten and again in twenty fourteen, 0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:52.440 because they felt completely abandoned on the issues that were 0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:53.120 the most core to that. 0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:56.439 Yeah, and that's what is different is that they do 0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:59.400 feel abandoned. Democrats do feel abandoned by their leaders in 0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:02.040 a way that is very different from any other time 0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:04.279 you know that I've seen in modern history. And if 0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:07.279 you play on that Tea Party twenty ten wave analogy, 0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:11.480 you also had Republicans unpopular with their own base. 0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:13.400 But that didn't mean that they didn't do well in 0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:14.120 the midterms. 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:16.879 There was you know, a massive way of Obama called 0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:20.160 it a shellacking. You know, so many Democrats swept down 0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.640 of office. That ends up being incredibly consequential because then 0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:24.920 you had the twenty ten census, then you had redistricting 0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.400 that helps to lock in the political era that we're 0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:30.239 in at this point in time. But in any case, 0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:35.520 so I don't know that this number of Democratic unpopularity 0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:39.000 is going to be the saving grace that Republicans hope 0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:39.400 it is. 0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:39.640 Now. 0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:41.239 What I will say is if they were doing a 0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:43.200 lot better, I think they would be poised. You know, 0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:44.480 if they were fighting in a way and had a 0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:47.040 clear and compelling message and had people who were younger 0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:50.120 than eighty years old making that clear and compelling message 0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:52.359 on a day to day basis, I think they would 0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:54.800 be in position to truly romp and have you know, 0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:56.799 an opportunity and maybe take back the Senate or things 0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:58.880 like that. I think the fact that they are not 0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:01.880 particularly trust will limit the gains, but I still think 0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:04.520 they're probably in well possession, and history would indicate that 0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:06.920 in this midterm you're likely to get a backlash against 0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:10.319 the incumbent party in any case. The other thing that 0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:13.120 to keep an eye on that's coming up more rapidly 0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.000 here is there are two states this year that have 0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:18.120 their governor's races, New Jersey and it's Virginia. New Jersey 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:20.839 obviously more of a democratic state and Virginia, more of 0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:23.560 a swing state, can put be four up on the screen. 0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:25.200 So this race is. 0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:29.960 Going to pit former undercover CIA agent Abigail span Burger. 0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:31.400 Why are these spooks? 0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:39.240 The Democratic Charity loves any like national security police whatever. 0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:42.080 They love that this is a rama manual thing. 0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:45.920 Actually recruited all these like veterans and you know, cops 0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:48.880 and whatever. So anyway, that's who Abigail span Burger is. 0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:54.400 She's very centristy kind of a Democrat. And the Republican 0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:58.200 is win Some Sears, who is the current lieutenant governor, 0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:02.920 and she right now Spanberger has a pretty wide and 0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:04.799 as far as I can tell in the polls, quite 0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:05.959 consistent lead. 0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:07.640 Now, again the polls can be. 0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:12.280 Wrong, but I will say in Virginia she has Winsome 0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:16.880 Sears has a particular problem because of Doche So many 0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:20.200 federal government employees live in Virginia. And I'm not just 0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:22.799 talking about northern Virginia, although Northern Virginia is where a 0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:24.680 lot of the political power in the state is at 0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:27.239 this point in time, you also have a lot of 0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:31.960 federal government jobs throughout the state, surrounding many military bases, etc. 0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:33.959 I mean, the little town I live in is based 0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:39.160 around you know, civilian scientist naval research center called Dalgren 0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:43.480 And so this is a very key issue and Winsome 0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:47.000 Seers has not availed herself well when she's talking about dough. 0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:49.520 She's been unable to separate herself in the Trump administration, 0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:53.440 unable to separate herself from the DOGE federal government worker cuts, 0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:56.760 and so you know, I think that has significantly hobbled 0:44:57.200 --> 0:44:58.880 her chances, and I think it was going to be 0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:01.439 a difficult race to be with. I believe I saw 0:45:01.480 --> 0:45:04.360 something about the RGA basically like, Okay. 0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:04.960 She's not funding. 0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:07.360 Yeah, it's all a question how much she's going to. 0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:09.600 I mean, I think Spamberger might been what he thinks 0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:10.800 seventeen eighteen points. 0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:14.520 I don't think that's too far. So what's nine and 0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:17.120 one by two the previous Well, what was the. 0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:18.720 Twenty seventeen Spanberger by seven? 0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:19.920 Spanburger by seven? 0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:22.080 Wow, that's still actually lower than I would think, because 0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:25.320 I mean, all indications right now are just a blowout. 0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:27.120 Put B five up there on the screen. I sent 0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:29.920 this because this is just shows you how crazy things are. 0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:35.000 The Virginia Police Benevolent Association, which four years ago supported 0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:38.480 every Republican in the state, is now backing Spanberger over 0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:39.280 win some series. 0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:42.320 They're like, yeah, she's done. We don't even have a choice. 0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:44.359 Well, I think yeah, and I think that's what it is. 0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:47.319 First of all, Spanberger did try to vote for like 0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:50.279 police funding. She was certainly never a defund the policer, right, 0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:54.680 But they they endorsed against her when. 0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:55.680 She ran for Congress. 0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:59.680 And so now I read it as they see the 0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:01.680 writing on the wall and they're like, we may as 0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:04.239 well endorse her and being good with her because it'll 0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:06.320 put us in a better position to advocate for whatever 0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:09.600 it is we want when she's governor. That's how I 0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:11.520 that's how I read the endorsement. 0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:13.120 I think that's the right way to see it. 0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:15.200 But the point is just that it's always been a 0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:18.319 precursor this one. I think, as you said, it's more 0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:20.320 of an outlier just because Doge. 0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:21.600 Is going to be so impactful. 0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:24.560 If you saw yesterday Emily and I covered the layoffs 0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:27.600 higher since twenty twenty one, a massive portion of it 0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:30.319 is government employees. Yeah, massive portion of those are going 0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:33.920 to live in Northern Virginia, and so those people are 0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:36.560 just I mean, I get these are my neighbors. They're irate, 0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:39.759 they hate They probably hate Trump more this time than 0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:41.360 last time because of Doge. 0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:42.560 You just can't stand it. 0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:44.480 Here's the other thing is it's not just the direct 0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:45.560 federal government employees. 0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:48.120 The contractors here right with They all so. 0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:51.319 Many of these contracts, like the funding was cut. And 0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:54.120 you know, even if you're not losing your job, okay 0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:56.520 you don't, you're not on with this particular client. I 0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:58.840 was actually just talking to a woman about exactly this. 0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:02.080 She's like, well, they cut our contract over at a camera, 0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:05.240 but I think she was at USDA. And so now 0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:08.360 there's not really a place for me to go internally, 0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:10.720 So I'm just going to be working at like booz 0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:14.680 Allen Hamilton, you know, doing the whatever in the office. 0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:19.319 And so it's it has a wide ranging impact. And 0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:22.040 if you drive around this area, you know, within a 0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:26.840 forty mile radius, it's contractor after contractor after contractor. And 0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:30.160 this has been a huge upending of their lives. And 0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:33.840 you know, it's it's the having to come into the office, 0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:37.400 it's the you know, the the change to lifestyle, the commuting, 0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:41.960 the pay cuts, the contract loss, the actual job loss, 0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:44.680 just the chaos and the uncertainty, which is very stressful. 0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:47.880 So that will definitely weigh on the Virginia race. I mean, 0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:49.600 in some ways, It'll be interesting to watch the New 0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:52.920 Jersey race. Even though all expectations are that the Democrat 0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:56.920 Mikey Cheryl, who's another like Centricty type of Democrat, all 0:47:56.960 --> 0:47:59.880 expectations are that she will end up prevailing, but the 0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:02.279 margin there will be interesting to see as well if 0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:05.319 there's some sort of Democratic over performance, especially since New 0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:07.480 Jersey was a state where Trump sort of overperformed. 0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:10.880 So yeah, that's right. I mean, I still wonder how 0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:13.600 much of that is A twenty I think the twenty 0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:16.480 twenty four election will be the high water mark for 0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:20.600 Republicans and Republicanism for quite a long time. There's a 0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:22.879 lot of reasons for that. The popular vote, you have 0:48:23.160 --> 0:48:26.400 the popular vote, you have the vibe, you have Kamala like. 0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:29.719 There are multifaceted reasons for why it was. I think 0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:31.799 it could either be a flash in the pan or 0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:33.400 they could have built on it. I think the built 0:48:33.440 --> 0:48:36.000 on it has passed mostly at this point. I mean, 0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:36.720 they could still. 0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:40.720 Possible. It's very possible they could do it again. 0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:43.520 It would have to be I think, a total change 0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:46.000 both in the way that the two parties come into 0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:48.759 the twenty twenty eight election. But yeah, just looking at 0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:51.240 where things are trending right now, and in terms of 0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:53.439 the way that they've handled themselves, it does not look 0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:55.359 like the midterms are going to go all that well, 0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:59.279 all jerry mandering or redistricting or whatever, withstanding, which is 0:48:59.360 --> 0:49:01.120 still such an same story the way that. 0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:03.640 They can also screw themselves with that if yeah, I 0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:06.200 tried it, if they try to be too cute and 0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:09.080 make the districts a little too tight, they could like 0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:10.319 it's not you know. 0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:11.200 Yeah, Rian made that point. 0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:13.880 If you go fifty two forty eight in every single district, 0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:16.239 you can find yourself in some serious upsets, which happens 0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:17.480 in Texas all the time. 0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:21.560 Especially because Trump as this particular unique pull pull. So 0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:24.799 the numbers that Trump pulled, let's say, with Latino voters 0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:28.600 in you know, the Rio Grand Valley in Texas, you 0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:31.960 can't rely on another random Republican to be able to 0:49:32.000 --> 0:49:34.399 pull the Ted Cruise or whoever to be able to put. 0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:37.360 Texts when in South Texas, you know, yeah, they probably 0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:42.520 hate him. Yeah, HiT's that absoually Sorry, I'm sure John 0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:45.480 Cornyn is going to clean up down in Laredo. You know, 0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:46.640 It's like that's not. 0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:49.480 Happening exactly, And so I think, you know, I think 0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:52.080 that's that makes it even diceier is that Trump is 0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:55.200 sort of like his own entity, so you don't have 0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:59.880 as much predictability about the way individual like voting groups 0:49:59.880 --> 0:50:02.680 are going to behave So anyway, will continue to track that. 0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:07.680 That's an interesting story in and of itself. Agreed, All right, 0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:09.600 let's go and throw this up on the screen. A 0:50:09.640 --> 0:50:13.319 little update about some of the full mask off that 0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.480 the Israelis are going on at this point. So Netanyahu 0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:19.480 says he is on a historic and spiritual mission and 0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:23.000 that he feels a connection to the vision of greater Israel. 0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:24.520 Let me go ahead and read this. 0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:27.120 Specifically, He was asked if he feels a connection to 0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:30.080 that vision of greater Israel. Not now who says quote 0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:33.400 very much that question about a greater Israel. After he 0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:35.360 asked a premiere if he feels he's on a mission 0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:37.719 on behalf of the Jewish people, Netanyaho answers, he's on 0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:40.799 a mission of generations. There are generations of Jews that 0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:43.440 dreamt of coming here and generations of Jews who will 0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:45.360 come after us. So if you're asking if IY have 0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:49.560 a sense of mission historically and spiritually, the answer is yes, 0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:52.759 And this has been a pretty consistent theme here. Sager that, 0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:55.719 like from the beginning, if you listen to either the 0:50:55.760 --> 0:51:00.959 most hyperbolic leftist or the most psychotic settler, you would 0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:03.239 have a much better understanding. Certainly, don't listen to the 0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:06.000 Western press. Certainly, don't listen to the US politicians who 0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:08.360 just pretend they have no idea what's going on, even 0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:11.319 as you have words directly out of the mouths of 0:51:11.360 --> 0:51:13.640 the Prime Minister or the Minister of Defense, like the 0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:16.320 you know, smoke Chrich Ben Givier, the members of his coalition, 0:51:16.400 --> 0:51:18.799 et cetera. They just pretend they don't hear or see 0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:22.160 any of that. But at this point in time, Netanyahu 0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:25.360 is feeling so emboldened thanks to a combination of Biden 0:51:25.360 --> 0:51:28.640 and now Trump, you know, enabling every atrocity and allowing 0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:31.360 him to do literally whatever he wants apparently that he 0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:34.360 is just out and out saying, yeah, greater Israel, I'm 0:51:34.400 --> 0:51:37.600 into that, just so people if they don't know. Now, 0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:40.959 in fairness, there are apparently different conceptions of what quote 0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:44.400 unquote greater Israel might mean. Some of them mean just 0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:47.600 from the river to the sea, you might say, including 0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:52.360 quote unquote Judae and Samaria in the Israeli which is 0:51:52.400 --> 0:51:55.920 the West Bank in with Israel and Sagaza strip. But 0:51:56.000 --> 0:51:59.520 there is a more expansion, expansionative vision as well. We 0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:03.000 can put this map up on the screen that looks 0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:07.040 like this, you know, includes Egypt, includes part of Egypt, 0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:10.120 part of Saudi Arabia, part of Iraq, part of Syria, 0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:13.440 all of Jordan, you know, the Sinai Peninsula of course, 0:52:13.560 --> 0:52:16.640 all of Israel plus the West Bank plus Gaza. 0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:20.160 So you know, just putting it out. 0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:23.000 There that this is a potential vision, and certainly the 0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:25.520 actions that Israel has taken, given that they have been 0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:28.759 bombing almost all of these countries over the past couple 0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:32.200 of years, again with our support and arming them, makes 0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:35.440 it much less preposterous than it felt at one point. 0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:37.719 We can put this up on the screen. C three. 0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:42.120 Saudi Arabia very unhappy with these comments from Prime Minister 0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:46.239 net Nyahuu Foreign Ministry, expressing the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia's 0:52:46.360 --> 0:52:49.879 condemnation in the strongest terms possible of the statements made 0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:52.920 by the Prime Minister of the Israeli occupation government regarding 0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:55.960 the so called vision of Greater Israel, and expresses its 0:52:56.000 --> 0:52:59.759 outright rejection of the settlement and expansionist plans adopted by 0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:01.640 the Israeli occupation authority. 0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:03.400 So, Sager, what did you make of these comments? 0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:06.280 Well, uh, well, the Saudi Arabian ones are interesting because 0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:08.840 the entire theories, the Abraham. 0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:09.799 Accords and all of that. 0:53:09.880 --> 0:53:12.920 But the whole point around Greater Israel is just the 0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:17.440 ideological vision and divorcing it from the things that they 0:53:17.520 --> 0:53:20.600 say as in like, look, we're just about dismantling Hamas, 0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:24.000 we're just about occupying Gaza. We're not going to stay there, 0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:26.319 we promise, even though we said that there was going 0:53:26.360 --> 0:53:29.000 to be an indefinite presence. I mean, the reason why 0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:32.160 KSA is so upset about the map is because did 0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:35.600 you see the map that we put up like country? 0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:38.839 And the reason why you are forced to take it 0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:43.040 seriously is because of the actions of the Israeli government 0:53:43.400 --> 0:53:46.120 under Nata Yahu. If it was just Gaza, it would 0:53:46.160 --> 0:53:48.640 be part of the Greater Israel project. But you have 0:53:48.719 --> 0:53:51.880 to contextualize it with the current treatment of the West Bank, 0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:55.080 of the two tiered system of justice, of the indefinite 0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:58.759 presence in Lebanon, of the indefinite presence in Syria of 0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:02.120 the overthrowing of this series government and then if basically 0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:06.440 trying to establish a druze Israeli free zone inside of 0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:09.000 a country outside of the goal on heights of the 0:54:09.040 --> 0:54:11.960 sixty seven you know recognized bards, right. So, like all 0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:15.279 of these things point to an expansionist rogue power and 0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:17.120 we're going to get to a little bit later on 0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:19.799 in the show about the potential war with Iran. But 0:54:19.840 --> 0:54:23.120 it all fits together as part of something which is 0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:28.480 just destabilization, regime change everywhere else in order to serve 0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:31.200 this smaller nation which could never do any of this 0:54:31.440 --> 0:54:33.320 without the backstop of the United States for America. 0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:34.439 Yeah, that's really the point. 0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:38.480 They recognize the historic moment that they're in where support 0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:41.000 for Israel is plummeting off. I mean, we're the only 0:54:41.040 --> 0:54:43.600 country that really matters to them, and support for them 0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:46.200 is plummeting off a cliff. They've already lost the Democratic Party. 0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:46.600 It's gone. 0:54:46.680 --> 0:54:48.200 I don't think you're going to get a twenty twenty 0:54:48.200 --> 0:54:51.160 eight Democratic nominee who holds the same positions that Joe 0:54:51.160 --> 0:54:54.800 Biden and Obama and every other you know, bipartisan politician 0:54:54.880 --> 0:54:56.799 has on Israel and modern history. I don't think you're 0:54:56.800 --> 0:54:58.200 going to get that in twenty twenty, and I don't 0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:00.680 think it's going to be possible. And certainly the Democratic 0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:04.520 base is disgusted and horrified by what our tax dollars 0:55:04.560 --> 0:55:06.680 have done. On the Republican side, as we've discussed, you 0:55:06.800 --> 0:55:10.480 have a younger generation that thinks very differently. I think 0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:14.280 they know that, and so that's why they are really 0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:18.560 going for it, trying to secure this greater Israel vision, 0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:21.480 abandoning the pretext that this I mean, just think of 0:55:21.520 --> 0:55:25.200 how preposterous it is at this point to pretend like, oh, 0:55:25.239 --> 0:55:27.399 this is all just in self defense, and we're doing 0:55:27.440 --> 0:55:31.279 these limited targeted strikes against Hamas and this is just 0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:33.719 all about going after the bad guys who got us 0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:38.560 on October seventh. Utterly and completely preposterous when you consider 0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:41.520 the number of countries that they're bombing, the territory that 0:55:41.560 --> 0:55:44.440 they've annexed, the actions in the West Bank. You know 0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:46.360 that we're going to talk a little bit more about that. 0:55:46.480 --> 0:55:48.719 Jasper Nathaniel has been highlighting. I mean, the West Bank 0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:52.120 annexation is all but complete, and this is all in 0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:54.920 quote unquote self defense. For October seventh, you'd have to 0:55:54.960 --> 0:55:58.239 be a fool to believe that at this point, or 0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:00.319 a liar, which you know there are many of those 0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:03.040 as well. Just to take it back to what the 0:56:03.080 --> 0:56:05.839 settlers have been saying, because they've long been pushing this 0:56:06.360 --> 0:56:09.719 biblical vision quote unquote of greater Israel. Let's go and 0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:13.200 take a listen to Daniella Weiss explaining why this is 0:56:13.280 --> 0:56:16.240 central to her conception and her ideological goals. 0:56:16.440 --> 0:56:19.000 How big is that lan, Because it's very big. 0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:24.800 No, this is the promise of God to the patriarchs 0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:29.160 of the Jewish Nation. It's three thousand kilometers. It's almost 0:56:29.200 --> 0:56:31.319 as big as this is it? 0:56:31.640 --> 0:56:34.080 So this is the biblical Israel. 0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:39.720 Yeah, so, and this is what's and so which countries artists. 0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:44.120 And which country don't mention? I think it's Iraq and Syria. 0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:48.439 So you thought of Saudi Arabia. 0:56:48.560 --> 0:56:50.920 This is a holy place. 0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:55.799 It's a place, one part of the universe that was 0:56:55.960 --> 0:57:00.440 chosen by God. It's a kind of a stage for 0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:06.600 the Jewish nation to express the ideals, the ideas and 0:57:06.680 --> 0:57:08.040 ideals of the Jewish nation. 0:57:09.239 --> 0:57:11.640 So there you go. It's very large, she lays out 0:57:11.640 --> 0:57:11.759 for you. 0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:12.279 It's a rock. 0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:15.360 It's Syria, it's part of Saudi Arabia. This is God's 0:57:15.480 --> 0:57:19.760 promise to us. This is also why like theocracies are 0:57:20.280 --> 0:57:25.400 really bad, because if you believe that your religion justifies 0:57:25.880 --> 0:57:30.480 a genocide, rogue wars against all your neighbors, this incredibly 0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:33.960 you know, expansionist, aggressive foreign policy. 0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:34.680 If you believe that. 0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:38.400 And you know, obviously net Nyahu is sort of embracing that, 0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:41.920 even though himself he's like more of a secular figure, 0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:47.280 but he's allied with these hardcore religious figures and you know, 0:57:47.800 --> 0:57:50.840 who have absolutely psychotic ideas about what the state should 0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:53.280 be and what they should do to effectuate it. You 0:57:53.480 --> 0:57:56.120 end up with absolute horror, which is exactly what we 0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:56.440 do have. 0:57:56.520 --> 0:57:58.240 And it fits actually with this next piece to put 0:57:58.240 --> 0:57:59.960 it up there on the screen. This is very significant 0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:02.080 and inside of Israel is actually getting a lot of play. 0:58:02.160 --> 0:58:06.680 So after a twenty year freeze, the Finance Minister Besilosmotrich 0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:10.200 has approved the construction of new housing units in an 0:58:10.280 --> 0:58:15.080 area where the development has been blocked. The reason why 0:58:15.400 --> 0:58:18.440 even these psycho settler movements and others have not allowed 0:58:18.720 --> 0:58:21.560 settlers to go and be there is because doing so 0:58:21.880 --> 0:58:25.680 would quote effectively block the establishment of a Palestinian state 0:58:26.080 --> 0:58:30.320 due to its strategic position separating areas south of Jerusalem 0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:33.480 from those to its north. And actually they followed it 0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:37.520 up this morning Prosmotrich in a press conference in the country, 0:58:37.600 --> 0:58:40.520 where he said, by doing this, we quote bury the 0:58:40.560 --> 0:58:42.680 idea of a Palestinian state. 0:58:43.040 --> 0:58:43.640 Just again. 0:58:43.720 --> 0:58:47.280 To understand exactly while all this is happening, and even 0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:50.320 in the Israeli press, here's what they say. To understand 0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:52.439 the significance, we have to go back to nineteen forty eight, 0:58:52.600 --> 0:58:54.880 during the War of Independence, the Arab malicious place to 0:58:54.920 --> 0:58:58.560 siege on Jerusalem. After they broke the siege, the Holiest 0:58:58.560 --> 0:59:01.280 site has now been under Jordanian I occupation until the 0:59:01.320 --> 0:59:04.960 IDF liberated it in nineteen sixty seven. The siege left 0:59:04.960 --> 0:59:07.760 a stain on the consciousness of Israeli leadership, but they've 0:59:07.840 --> 0:59:11.560 kept it open for the potential establishment of a Palestinian state. 0:59:11.760 --> 0:59:14.640 So now by green lighting, yes, even this small settlement 0:59:14.640 --> 0:59:17.360 of thirty four hundred people, the strategic location of it 0:59:17.440 --> 0:59:20.120 is a is a signal to the Palestinians, to the 0:59:20.120 --> 0:59:23.080 Arab States, to the Jordanians and others it's not happening. 0:59:23.320 --> 0:59:25.960 It's also meant as a counter diplomatic signal to all 0:59:26.000 --> 0:59:30.560 of the Western countries which are talking about recognizing Palestinian statehood. 0:59:30.600 --> 0:59:33.400 You can't recognize statehood if it doesn't exist in any 0:59:33.440 --> 0:59:34.120 sort of conception. 0:59:34.200 --> 0:59:35.960 Yeah, that's what people say, is like, okay, point to 0:59:36.000 --> 0:59:38.520 me on the map where the Palestinian state is, because 0:59:39.000 --> 0:59:42.520 this is you know, this is an extraordinarily provocative and 0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:46.480 I think significant development in terms of blocking any future 0:59:46.480 --> 0:59:50.840 Palestinian state Smotriche again, he says it. You know, this 0:59:50.920 --> 0:59:53.200 isn't us just like theorizing or making it up. They 0:59:53.240 --> 0:59:56.920 put it out there and make it plain what is 0:59:56.960 --> 1:00:01.040 going on here. And this is what Jaspernathdaniel wrote about 1:00:01.320 --> 1:00:03.400 in that piece that we interviewed him about. He actually 1:00:03.400 --> 1:00:06.920 talked about this specific development and how consequential it was 1:00:07.120 --> 1:00:10.960 in terms of locking the possibility of a Palestinian state. 1:00:11.360 --> 1:00:15.360 So this is what's going on. This is why annexation 1:00:15.440 --> 1:00:17.760 of the West Bank is de facto complete, because the 1:00:17.840 --> 1:00:21.440 Israelis have in real life, like in what's actually happening 1:00:21.440 --> 1:00:24.000 on the ground right now, they have complete control over 1:00:24.080 --> 1:00:27.240 everybody's life who lives in the West Bank. They are 1:00:27.320 --> 1:00:32.520 living under Israeli government rule. And it is truly you know, 1:00:32.600 --> 1:00:35.160 I mean, any thought that this wasn't an apartheid system 1:00:35.200 --> 1:00:38.480 goes out the window when you realize that, yes, the 1:00:38.680 --> 1:00:41.000 Palestinians who live in the West Bank are fully under 1:00:41.080 --> 1:00:43.200 Israeli government control, and we know that they don't have 1:00:43.400 --> 1:00:47.080 any rights whatsoever. We know the settlers are encouraged to 1:00:47.120 --> 1:00:49.480 go and murder them, and then you know they get 1:00:49.480 --> 1:00:52.280 the settlers get off scott free and are just sent more, 1:00:52.800 --> 1:00:57.040 sometimes American made weapons. So that's the reality of what's 1:00:57.040 --> 1:00:59.520 happening in the West Bank. And just to again tie 1:00:59.560 --> 1:01:02.400 it in here, because it's not only the religious extremist 1:01:02.480 --> 1:01:06.720 terrorists running Israel that are a problem and part of 1:01:06.760 --> 1:01:10.960 what has created such an insane situation, you also have 1:01:11.280 --> 1:01:16.560 some plenty of religion being invoked to justify our continued, 1:01:16.720 --> 1:01:18.959 endless support of Israel here in the US as well. 1:01:19.080 --> 1:01:21.400 Let's go ahead and take a listen to Lindsey Graham. 1:01:21.680 --> 1:01:24.960 I am tired of the word genocide. Let me tell 1:01:25.000 --> 1:01:29.960 you about genocide. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they could, 1:01:31.040 --> 1:01:35.400 They have the capability to do that, they choose not to. 1:01:35.400 --> 1:01:38.480 To people in my party, I'm tired of this crap. 1:01:39.640 --> 1:01:43.160 Israel is our friend, They're the most reliable friend we 1:01:43.240 --> 1:01:46.280 have in the Mid East, there's democracy. 1:01:46.520 --> 1:01:48.520 It's not a hard choice if you're a Christian. 1:01:49.600 --> 1:01:54.600 A word of warning, if America pulls the plug on Israel, 1:01:54.840 --> 1:01:56.520 God will pull the plug on us. 1:01:57.240 --> 1:02:00.440 Israel is not the bad guy. They're the good guy. 1:02:00.680 --> 1:02:03.439 The bad guys or the rag wal Islamis who would 1:02:03.480 --> 1:02:04.600 kill everybody in this room. 1:02:04.720 --> 1:02:05.120 They could. 1:02:06.120 --> 1:02:10.120 So I haven't lost my vision of right and wrong 1:02:11.200 --> 1:02:14.960 when it comes to foreign policy. President Trumps stood up 1:02:15.320 --> 1:02:18.800 for all the right things, and he stood up against 1:02:18.960 --> 1:02:19.800 wrong things. 1:02:20.600 --> 1:02:23.400 Yes, the government that is starving babies to death, they're 1:02:23.400 --> 1:02:24.080 the good guys. 1:02:24.280 --> 1:02:25.280 Those are the good guys. 1:02:25.480 --> 1:02:28.080 But he says if Americans pull the plug on Israel, 1:02:28.400 --> 1:02:31.640 God will pull the plug on us. And Soger, perhaps 1:02:31.680 --> 1:02:33.920 you want to weigh in on his statement that Israel's 1:02:33.960 --> 1:02:34.760 the best friend. 1:02:34.520 --> 1:02:36.920 We could ever have. They're great. 1:02:37.080 --> 1:02:41.120 I can't weigh in whenever it's rooted in your biblical ideology, 1:02:41.160 --> 1:02:43.960 which you know many of your own believers say is Harris. 1:02:44.000 --> 1:02:44.840 Look, I'm not Christian. 1:02:44.880 --> 1:02:46.360 You know it's not my job to sit here and 1:02:46.400 --> 1:02:48.680 critique dispensationalism or whatever. 1:02:48.720 --> 1:02:50.000 I can only just say I think. 1:02:49.880 --> 1:02:52.440 It's crazy and not really the way that you should 1:02:53.120 --> 1:02:58.040 conduct foreign policy based upon the particular interpretation of the Bible, 1:02:58.360 --> 1:03:01.160 which is a much more recent development and divorced from 1:03:01.200 --> 1:03:04.200 any sort of national interest. But that's Lindsay Graham and 1:03:04.320 --> 1:03:05.480 the Republican Party for you. 1:03:05.520 --> 1:03:06.160 I don't even know. 1:03:06.520 --> 1:03:08.280 You know, that's the other thing here with him. Does 1:03:08.320 --> 1:03:10.440 he really believe this or does they just use it 1:03:10.480 --> 1:03:13.440 as a cudgel. I actually don't know which one it is. 1:03:13.520 --> 1:03:16.000 I kind of think the latter, because you know, look, 1:03:16.160 --> 1:03:18.360 Lindsay Graham, he has crazy beliefs. 1:03:18.400 --> 1:03:19.800 I don't think he's a dumb guy. 1:03:20.040 --> 1:03:22.640 I think what he does is see clearly to preserve 1:03:22.720 --> 1:03:26.000 his like neo conservative ideology that the one last bastion 1:03:26.120 --> 1:03:30.880 of pro Israel support is these Kufi John Hagy evangelical Republicans. 1:03:31.160 --> 1:03:32.480 South Carolina is full of them. 1:03:32.600 --> 1:03:34.640 And so that's the one way that he can message 1:03:34.680 --> 1:03:37.439 himself as like the upholder of their religion in terms 1:03:37.480 --> 1:03:39.920 of their foreign policy priorities. That's the only way I 1:03:39.920 --> 1:03:42.240 could possibly see it and to hold on to any 1:03:42.320 --> 1:03:46.000 sort of like grasp organically at a political level. But 1:03:46.200 --> 1:03:49.120 that is a window. And two is real support. Now, 1:03:49.280 --> 1:03:51.520 it's all biblical, biblical. 1:03:51.320 --> 1:03:53.720 Yeah, I think I think you're right that it's probably cynical. 1:03:53.760 --> 1:03:55.320 I mean, not that really makes the difference whether he 1:03:55.720 --> 1:03:57.960 does or not. He has really certainly used it cynically 1:03:58.160 --> 1:04:01.360 of course. You know, they see this long cultivated the 1:04:01.680 --> 1:04:05.200 you know, evangelical Christian right in order to you know, 1:04:05.280 --> 1:04:07.800 make sure that they have this solid base of support 1:04:07.840 --> 1:04:09.360 in the US. And we have to say it's been 1:04:09.440 --> 1:04:10.680 very successful for a long time. 1:04:11.200 --> 1:04:11.439 Yeah. 1:04:11.480 --> 1:04:14.240 Absolutely, all right, let's go and get to this next piece. 1:04:14.640 --> 1:04:17.960 I listened to this entire Theovon podcast. I really recommend 1:04:18.000 --> 1:04:20.000 that you guys do as well. You know, THEO made 1:04:20.040 --> 1:04:22.000 a lot of waves when he came out and said, listen, guys, 1:04:22.040 --> 1:04:24.040 I think this is a genocide. He asked jd Vance 1:04:24.080 --> 1:04:27.080 about it when he was on the show, and he 1:04:27.400 --> 1:04:30.720 went a step further now by hosting a doctor, an 1:04:30.720 --> 1:04:34.000 American doctor who is just back from GASA, you know, 1:04:34.080 --> 1:04:37.920 for a full episode to discuss what this doctor saw 1:04:38.120 --> 1:04:40.960 when he was there on the ground at NASA Hospital. 1:04:41.120 --> 1:04:43.080 Let's go and take a listen to a portion. 1:04:42.880 --> 1:04:45.960 Of this Saturday, they had the MCI it's called a 1:04:45.960 --> 1:04:48.680 mass casualty incident, and they basically pull a fire alarm. 1:04:49.000 --> 1:04:51.040 What the hell's that? Oh, every doctor come down to 1:04:51.080 --> 1:04:53.520 the er to try to help, and so I was like, okay, 1:04:53.680 --> 1:04:56.520 So went downstairs, got in there. There's just a brain 1:04:56.600 --> 1:04:59.160 matter coming out of people. There's guts coming out of 1:04:59.200 --> 1:05:02.520 people's abdomen, there's people's legs blown off, and someone's carrying 1:05:02.560 --> 1:05:03.840 it in next to the you know, one of the 1:05:03.840 --> 1:05:05.960 family members bringing it in for the doctors, and you know, 1:05:06.000 --> 1:05:08.080 they think you can just reattach it and. 1:05:08.000 --> 1:05:10.120 It's just like absolute chaos. 1:05:10.120 --> 1:05:12.840 There's family members, security in the hospitals trying to push 1:05:12.840 --> 1:05:14.560 out the family members so the doctors and nurses can 1:05:14.560 --> 1:05:17.600 take care of the patients. It's it's absolute chaos. And 1:05:17.640 --> 1:05:20.240 then US American physicians are just like looking at it here, 1:05:20.280 --> 1:05:24.280 They're like what is going on here? And you know 1:05:24.360 --> 1:05:27.240 that was that was that's when reality hit and I 1:05:27.280 --> 1:05:28.720 was like, okay, this must be like a one off, 1:05:29.160 --> 1:05:32.200 and it just kept happening every day and sometimes multiple 1:05:32.240 --> 1:05:36.120 times a day. Essentially, basically, we can we found the 1:05:36.160 --> 1:05:39.560 pattern related to when the GAHF sites were opening up. 1:05:39.920 --> 1:05:42.919 So he's there backing up the claims which we heard 1:05:42.960 --> 1:05:45.400 directly from a doctor who was just recently back. We 1:05:45.440 --> 1:05:49.640 of course heard from Anthony Aguilar GHF whistleblower that when 1:05:49.840 --> 1:05:53.640 the sites are active, you are going to have mass 1:05:53.840 --> 1:05:57.640 casualty incidents. You were going to have, he says, hundreds 1:05:57.800 --> 1:06:01.760 of people showing up in the hospital wounded, you know, 1:06:01.880 --> 1:06:03.920 in the conditions that he describes. 1:06:04.680 --> 1:06:05.680 There were a couple other. 1:06:05.720 --> 1:06:08.240 Moments Soccer that I also thought were really interesting, I 1:06:08.240 --> 1:06:12.360 mean horrifying. He said that he heard of people who 1:06:12.440 --> 1:06:16.760 were basically trying to commit suicide by GHF, where you know, 1:06:16.800 --> 1:06:19.800 in Islam, suicide is banned, and so people would talk about, 1:06:19.840 --> 1:06:22.360 like listen, if I lose my family, like I'm just 1:06:22.400 --> 1:06:24.640 going to go to one of these GHF sites and 1:06:24.760 --> 1:06:27.840 hope that they take me out. Like that's how grim 1:06:27.920 --> 1:06:31.320 and dire the situation was. And yet he was really inspired, 1:06:31.440 --> 1:06:34.200 you know, but of course by the people he saw there. 1:06:34.440 --> 1:06:36.320 He was really man doctors are cut out of a 1:06:36.360 --> 1:06:39.640 different cloth, because he felt so energized by just getting 1:06:39.640 --> 1:06:42.440 to go and help care for people and like be 1:06:42.600 --> 1:06:44.919 in this situation where he was able to do something 1:06:45.000 --> 1:06:47.600 and not just walk from watch from Afar, so, I mean, 1:06:47.640 --> 1:06:50.320 it's just remarkable to see the way these people operate. 1:06:50.400 --> 1:06:53.280 And then there was also a moment that I thought 1:06:53.280 --> 1:06:56.800 was pretty interesting from THEO because he explained more why 1:06:56.840 --> 1:06:59.240 he felt the need to speak out on this and 1:06:59.320 --> 1:07:02.160 come forward, even he felt some pressure not to. And 1:07:02.200 --> 1:07:04.520 he's like, you know, from the time that you're a kid, 1:07:05.080 --> 1:07:07.760 you're taught endlessly about the Holocaust and this idea of 1:07:07.760 --> 1:07:10.800 like this genocide and can never happen again, and then 1:07:10.880 --> 1:07:13.880 you see it happening and you're supposed to stay quiet. 1:07:14.240 --> 1:07:16.320 So he, you know, he sort of really took in 1:07:16.360 --> 1:07:18.680 at face value this idea of like we can't be 1:07:18.720 --> 1:07:20.640 involved in that. We when we said never again, we 1:07:20.680 --> 1:07:23.760 really actually should mean it, And that's why he felt 1:07:23.760 --> 1:07:26.680 the need to say something and speak out, even though 1:07:26.680 --> 1:07:29.600 that's obviously, you know, sort of an uncomfortable place for 1:07:29.680 --> 1:07:30.040 him to be. 1:07:30.200 --> 1:07:32.800 Yeah, I mean, I think for him, he is just 1:07:33.160 --> 1:07:35.080 naturally found out about the issue. 1:07:35.120 --> 1:07:36.320 He's horrified by the issue. 1:07:36.320 --> 1:07:38.400 He's not boxing into politics since he's like, this is 1:07:38.400 --> 1:07:39.720 how a normal person reacts. 1:07:39.760 --> 1:07:40.400 So it's actually a. 1:07:40.360 --> 1:07:42.840 Good barometer I think for a lot of you know, yeah. 1:07:42.720 --> 1:07:45.080 Because for most people, they're not coming in with all 1:07:45.080 --> 1:07:49.040 the baggage of Washington and the social consequences and they're like, yeah, 1:07:49.040 --> 1:07:50.280 I think this is really messed up. 1:07:50.360 --> 1:07:50.800 That's it. 1:07:51.040 --> 1:07:53.840 And then actually it's when you get the backlash that 1:07:53.880 --> 1:07:57.120 you're like, WHOA, am I crazy? And then that's the 1:07:57.160 --> 1:08:00.360 battle test for THEO and for Miss Rachel. It's kind 1:08:00.400 --> 1:08:02.840 of fascinating the track of Miss Rachel, if you go 1:08:02.880 --> 1:08:05.800 and you look at it is. She started out with 1:08:05.920 --> 1:08:08.720 a single thing where she's like, my heart weeps for 1:08:08.800 --> 1:08:14.000 the babies of Israel and Gaza boom, I mean mass attack. 1:08:14.600 --> 1:08:17.960 Then she did her hop Little Bunnies song with a 1:08:18.000 --> 1:08:20.200 three year old girl who got her leg blown off. 1:08:20.520 --> 1:08:24.559 Same thing. Now it's like anti semi anti, and she 1:08:24.720 --> 1:08:27.120 had to decide, I've actually been listening to some interesting 1:08:27.120 --> 1:08:29.439 episodes and stuff where she talks about this, and she 1:08:29.560 --> 1:08:31.679 was like, look, I mean, by the way, look let's 1:08:31.680 --> 1:08:31.960 not tony. 1:08:32.000 --> 1:08:34.400 Miss Rachel's filthy rich, right, So at this point, you 1:08:34.400 --> 1:08:35.400 don't need to do it for the money. 1:08:35.400 --> 1:08:37.880 You're one of the most watched YouTube videos Netflix and 1:08:37.880 --> 1:08:38.240 all that. 1:08:38.439 --> 1:08:39.120 You're a brand. 1:08:39.360 --> 1:08:41.880 And so she's like, okay, so if I'm the next 1:08:41.960 --> 1:08:44.760 mister Rogers, which she considers herself like in that vein, 1:08:45.160 --> 1:08:48.000 she looked back to a nineteen sixty nine episode that 1:08:48.000 --> 1:08:50.360 mister Rogers did where he hosted a black man and 1:08:50.479 --> 1:08:52.599 they both put their feet in the same pool as 1:08:52.600 --> 1:08:54.880 a statement against segregator. He didn't make he didn't make 1:08:54.920 --> 1:08:57.120 anything about it. It was just one of those things 1:08:57.960 --> 1:09:01.320 by doing it treated as normal statement against Jim Crow 1:09:01.320 --> 1:09:04.280 and against segregation. So she sees herself now in that 1:09:04.400 --> 1:09:06.960 vein where you've made enough money that you don't care anymore, 1:09:07.120 --> 1:09:09.479 and then you set yourself at the standard. And what 1:09:09.560 --> 1:09:11.160 I think that a lot of these Zionists and pro 1:09:11.240 --> 1:09:14.280 Israel supporters don't understand is that when you bring the 1:09:14.320 --> 1:09:17.960 full hammer down on people, especially if you're independent like 1:09:18.000 --> 1:09:20.760 THEO or Miss Rachel or places like this show, you 1:09:20.800 --> 1:09:23.240 don't have the tools of control, you actually make us 1:09:23.280 --> 1:09:26.120 be like no, actually screw you, Like we're going all in, 1:09:26.280 --> 1:09:28.679 going all in. Yeah, we're going all in. We're talking 1:09:28.720 --> 1:09:32.639 about intermarriage, We're talking about Jewish supremacy, like we're we're 1:09:32.640 --> 1:09:35.840 putting it all on the table now. And I think 1:09:36.040 --> 1:09:39.519 that's what they underestimated in terms of us popular culture, 1:09:39.760 --> 1:09:41.679 is that for the Internet and for people who don't 1:09:41.840 --> 1:09:43.960 have their ties to all these think tanks or whatever, 1:09:44.160 --> 1:09:47.360 you can speak very very freely and say whatever you want. 1:09:47.439 --> 1:09:49.559 And so you know and acknowledge reality. 1:09:49.760 --> 1:09:52.120 And that's part of the consequence of how this has 1:09:52.160 --> 1:09:54.840 all gone about, and it's actually really pushed people and 1:09:54.960 --> 1:09:57.000 made them feel as if they have a responsibility a 1:09:57.080 --> 1:09:59.080 certain point to be like, no, I need to counter 1:09:59.439 --> 1:10:01.120 you know, all this other bs that's out there. 1:10:01.160 --> 1:10:03.880 Yeah, and it's why the tactics become increasingly heavy handed, 1:10:04.120 --> 1:10:06.479 where it's like, Okay, we're going to deport you, we're 1:10:06.520 --> 1:10:08.960 going to arrest you, we're going to you know, block 1:10:09.040 --> 1:10:12.719 your block, We're going to install an IDF sensor at TikTok. 1:10:12.880 --> 1:10:16.479 You know, they've become increasingly desperate. And it also ties 1:10:16.479 --> 1:10:18.200 in back to what we're saying about you know, them 1:10:18.200 --> 1:10:20.439 really grow going for it with the Greater Israel Project 1:10:20.479 --> 1:10:22.559 and the co Fleet annexation both of the West Bank 1:10:22.640 --> 1:10:25.479 and the Gaza Strip, because they recognize that there's a 1:10:25.520 --> 1:10:28.439 limited runway here for them at this point. One other 1:10:28.520 --> 1:10:31.920 thing I wanted to highlight is Emma Biggeland interviewed over 1:10:31.960 --> 1:10:35.120 on the Majority Report, UH doctor who was talking about 1:10:35.200 --> 1:10:37.600 you know, what what he saw in the ways in 1:10:37.640 --> 1:10:40.160 which he believes uh. And this is backed up by 1:10:40.200 --> 1:10:42.880 you know, a Lancet study and other other studies of 1:10:42.920 --> 1:10:46.320 the death count. Why he believes the official death count 1:10:46.360 --> 1:10:48.200 is such a wild understatement. 1:10:48.360 --> 1:10:49.720 Let's go ahead and take a listen to a little 1:10:49.720 --> 1:10:50.040 bit of that. 1:10:50.320 --> 1:10:51.880 The numbers are a wild undercount. 1:10:52.120 --> 1:10:52.719 That's perfect. 1:10:52.800 --> 1:10:55.360 I can tell you, for example, about malnutrition. So I 1:10:55.439 --> 1:10:58.679 work within the Ministry of Health System. Right we as 1:10:58.840 --> 1:11:02.280 what are called emergency medical teams, international doctors and nurses 1:11:02.320 --> 1:11:05.479 and allied health professionals. We go in in solidarity with 1:11:05.600 --> 1:11:08.439 medical teams, and so we sort of follow their lead 1:11:08.479 --> 1:11:10.639 in terms of how they do things. When I document 1:11:11.000 --> 1:11:13.240 what the cause of death is for somebody, everybody receives 1:11:13.280 --> 1:11:15.120 a piece of paper that says how they died. What 1:11:15.240 --> 1:11:18.519 our directive is is that if there's anything other than 1:11:18.600 --> 1:11:21.400 simple malnutrition that's causing this death, don't write it down 1:11:21.400 --> 1:11:24.240 as a malnutrition case. You can write it as secondary tertiary, 1:11:24.280 --> 1:11:26.920 but don't write that this person died for malnutrition. Similarly, 1:11:26.960 --> 1:11:29.720 Palestinians do not count the debt unless they have been 1:11:29.720 --> 1:11:31.920 to a hospital. So, for example, there have been many 1:11:31.960 --> 1:11:34.120 AID massacres, which by the way, is another kind of 1:11:34.120 --> 1:11:36.639 depravity we haven't even touched upon. When the AID massacres 1:11:36.640 --> 1:11:38.640 have been happening, there are many bodies that people tell me. 1:11:38.680 --> 1:11:40.719 Lots of my patients will tell me their bodies stranded 1:11:40.760 --> 1:11:42.840 there that we couldn't get to. We don't count those debts. 1:11:42.840 --> 1:11:45.040 We don't count them even really as more than missing, 1:11:45.120 --> 1:11:48.240 because we don't know for one hundred percent sure that 1:11:48.320 --> 1:11:50.040 that person is dead. Like look at the lists the 1:11:50.080 --> 1:11:53.560 Palestinians release. They release only the bodies they can identify 1:11:53.680 --> 1:11:56.479 with the ID numbers attached to them. Of course, it's 1:11:56.520 --> 1:11:58.519 a wild undercount. Think of how many people are under 1:11:58.520 --> 1:12:00.360 the rubble, how many people are still in red zone, 1:12:00.360 --> 1:12:03.960 how many people are thrown around laying dead in the sun, 1:12:04.040 --> 1:12:05.559 including at GHF sites. 1:12:05.600 --> 1:12:07.080 Of course, it's a wild undercount. 1:12:07.200 --> 1:12:10.000 Really, credible organizations that have done these counts for other 1:12:10.040 --> 1:12:13.799 places like Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo estimate 1:12:13.840 --> 1:12:15.599 the number at this point to be five to six 1:12:15.640 --> 1:12:19.360 times more easily. That's three hundred thousand people who were 1:12:19.479 --> 1:12:21.840 very likely dead. And of course there's another concept in 1:12:21.920 --> 1:12:25.160 medicine called excess deaths. So for example, I've seen numerous 1:12:25.360 --> 1:12:28.599 number of people DIACIS patients. So I saw diacis patient too. 1:12:28.800 --> 1:12:31.160 We worked on yesterday for a number of hours who 1:12:31.280 --> 1:12:34.280 ended up dying in our account that person died of 1:12:34.400 --> 1:12:37.760 a kidney related cause. But obviously that person who was malnourished, 1:12:37.840 --> 1:12:40.200 they couldn't receive dialysis care the way they were supposed to. 1:12:40.320 --> 1:12:42.479 They were killed by Israel, they were killed by the occupation, 1:12:42.680 --> 1:12:45.879 but we don't count those as direct conflict related deaths. 1:12:46.080 --> 1:12:48.559 So I thought that was a really effective explanation of 1:12:48.600 --> 1:12:51.320 the ways in which and the very you know, rational 1:12:51.360 --> 1:12:54.320 ways in which this is likely a very wild undercount. 1:12:54.439 --> 1:12:58.080 And you know, I also think about Amir who was 1:12:58.200 --> 1:13:00.639 killed at a J eight side and now just quote 1:13:00.720 --> 1:13:04.559 unquote missing. You know, how many other people were I 1:13:04.560 --> 1:13:07.200 mean likely what happened is Israelis came in with their 1:13:07.240 --> 1:13:11.040 bulldozer and he is buried somewhere under the sand thereby 1:13:11.080 --> 1:13:13.800 that GHF. It's very likely the case, you know, as 1:13:13.800 --> 1:13:16.479 they come through and they use the bulldozers to destroy 1:13:16.520 --> 1:13:19.120 all of Gaza city, Like how many bodies under the 1:13:19.200 --> 1:13:22.080 rubble will never be recovered? And then he talks about, 1:13:22.080 --> 1:13:24.519 you know, people who have other conditions, they're not able 1:13:24.560 --> 1:13:26.599 to get the medical treatment they need. Their bodies are 1:13:26.600 --> 1:13:30.599 incredibly stressed by hunger and a lack of clean drinking water, 1:13:30.800 --> 1:13:33.519 and the endless displacement, and now they're exposed to the 1:13:33.560 --> 1:13:36.240 elements with there's been extraordinary heat wave in the Gaza 1:13:36.320 --> 1:13:40.360 strip and those deaths don't get counted in the official 1:13:40.760 --> 1:13:44.280 war death toll. So you know, I don't know if 1:13:44.280 --> 1:13:46.920 we'll ever know exactly what the count is, but I 1:13:46.920 --> 1:13:48.639 think we can say with a lot of confidence now 1:13:48.680 --> 1:13:51.200 it is wildly higher. The number of people who have 1:13:51.200 --> 1:13:54.880 been killed by Israel during this genocide is wildly higher 1:13:54.880 --> 1:13:58.000 than the official number. And if anything, the news media 1:13:58.280 --> 1:14:00.640 downplays that number. Its oh the Gaza, you know, the 1:14:00.680 --> 1:14:03.080 Hamas run Gaza health ministry. 1:14:03.600 --> 1:14:04.759 We're not doing that anymore. 1:14:04.840 --> 1:14:09.759 Yeah, you know, health ministry, trutherism or whatever. Look, eventually 1:14:09.800 --> 1:14:11.400 one day we'll know. I actually that is point about 1:14:11.439 --> 1:14:13.559 Rwanda and all of that was very apt because the 1:14:13.560 --> 1:14:15.640 death soll did take a while for it all to 1:14:15.680 --> 1:14:17.840 come in. It would make sense that you can't have 1:14:17.960 --> 1:14:20.400 accurate accounting of the dead. I mean what you think 1:14:20.439 --> 1:14:23.679 the Nazis had a very accurate account right of who 1:14:23.680 --> 1:14:27.479 they killed and when. It was more accurate than people thought. 1:14:27.520 --> 1:14:29.160 But you know, people had to go back and look 1:14:29.400 --> 1:14:31.799 to actually assemble all the records to come to the 1:14:31.880 --> 1:14:34.559 numbers that they eventually did. So it's just one of 1:14:34.560 --> 1:14:36.840 those where you know, you really have to just think 1:14:36.880 --> 1:14:39.640 about that, both the death toll and the way that 1:14:39.680 --> 1:14:41.800 it's being messaged. But I do broadly think that the 1:14:41.800 --> 1:14:45.599 theovon Miss Rachel phenomenon on all of that is very 1:14:45.680 --> 1:14:47.559 impactful on the culture in a way that a lot 1:14:47.600 --> 1:14:51.560 of people in Washington are underestimating. I really think America, 1:14:51.760 --> 1:14:55.240 American politics is way too captured by Twitter, where Israel 1:14:55.360 --> 1:14:58.960 is wildly overrepresented, and that if you look at any 1:14:59.000 --> 1:15:02.880 other social media platform, it's ninety ten. I remember thinking 1:15:02.920 --> 1:15:05.320 that with the Milk Boys episode, and that's a real 1:15:05.400 --> 1:15:09.200 lesson for people just in terms of media consumption and 1:15:09.280 --> 1:15:11.639 kind of where the country is going. And I think 1:15:11.680 --> 1:15:13.439 it should be internalized by people in power, but they 1:15:13.479 --> 1:15:14.160 don't want to listen. 1:15:14.280 --> 1:15:15.479 No, they certainly do not