WEBVTT - US Mulls Iran Military Options; Big Tech AI Spending Bonanza

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here

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<v Speaker 2>are the stories we're following today.

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<v Speaker 3>Karen, those levels are at four year highs for oil

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<v Speaker 3>as President Trump keeps his naval blockade on Iran's ports

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<v Speaker 3>and reportedly considers new strikes. The President says a deal

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<v Speaker 3>has to include Iron giving up its nuclear program.

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<v Speaker 4>They've come a long way.

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<v Speaker 5>The question is whether or not they're going to go

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<v Speaker 5>far enough.

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<v Speaker 6>So at this moment, there will never be a deal

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<v Speaker 6>unless they agree that.

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<v Speaker 4>There will be no no clear workers.

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump spoke at the White House yesterday. This morning,

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<v Speaker 3>Axios is reporting that the President will meet later today

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<v Speaker 3>with the head of US Central Command to discuss potential

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<v Speaker 3>new military options. We get more from Bloomberg's Jumana Bursecci

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<v Speaker 3>in Duban.

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<v Speaker 7>Those include targeted and limited operations. Could be limited attacks

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<v Speaker 7>on infrastructure once again, it could be a Special Forces

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<v Speaker 7>operation to go and extract highly enriched uranium that there's

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<v Speaker 7>also talk about a specific operation that they would conduct

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<v Speaker 7>to reopen a small part of the street to allow

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<v Speaker 7>for commercial vessels to pass through.

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<v Speaker 3>Bloomberg's Jumana BURSETCI reports those options had crude oil on

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<v Speaker 3>the Brent trading as high as one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 3>six dollars a barrel overnight. Right now, Brent is up

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<v Speaker 3>two and a half percent at just about one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and twenty one dollars West Texas Intermediate. It's just shy

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<v Speaker 3>of one hundred and eight, and the war is really

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<v Speaker 3>adding to painted the pump. In California, Triple A says

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<v Speaker 3>that state's average gas price topped six dollars a gallon

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<v Speaker 3>for the first time since October of twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>On Nithan, Defense Secretary Pete Haiks had faced questions about

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<v Speaker 2>the war as he appeared before the House Armed Services

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<v Speaker 2>Committee to defend the Pentagons proposed one point five trillion

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<v Speaker 2>dollar budget. Bloomberg's Amy Morris supports from Washington.

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<v Speaker 8>The budget request is on top of a trillion dollar

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<v Speaker 8>appropriations from congressional lawmakers for this fiscal year. Lawmakers questioned

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<v Speaker 8>hag Seth over the war's economic impact, noting that it's

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<v Speaker 8>cost twenty five billion dollars so far. Ranking Member Adam

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<v Speaker 8>Smith of Washington.

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<v Speaker 9>We had to start this war, you just said, sixty

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<v Speaker 9>days ago because the nuclear weapon was an imminent threat.

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<v Speaker 9>Now you're saying that it was completely obliterate.

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<v Speaker 4>Had not given up their nuclear ambitions.

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<v Speaker 8>Hag Seth dismissed the criticism as political and rebuked lawmakers

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<v Speaker 8>both Republicans and Democrats, who pushed him for answers in Washington.

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<v Speaker 8>Amy Morris Bloomberg Radio.

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<v Speaker 3>Amy, thanks, the latest war developments and surging oil prices

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<v Speaker 3>maybe overshadowing the latest earnings from big tech. Let's start

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<v Speaker 3>with Alphabet. Shares of the Google parent are up more

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<v Speaker 3>than six percent in early trading. I get the details

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<v Speaker 3>from Bloomberg's John Tucker.

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<v Speaker 10>Google's cloud business, which only became profitable three years ago,

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<v Speaker 10>continues to grow quickly, accelerated by demand for AI software

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<v Speaker 10>and infrastructure. The Gemini chatbot app and enterprise tools are

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<v Speaker 10>gaining in popularity. The company expects to spend up to

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<v Speaker 10>one hundred ninety billion dollars this year on capital expenditures.

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<v Speaker 10>That's up from a previous estimate of one hundred eighty

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<v Speaker 10>five billion dollars, which was already double what it's spent

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<v Speaker 10>in twenty twenty five. John Tucker, Bloomberg.

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<v Speaker 2>Radio, All right, John, thank you. Amazon shares they are

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<v Speaker 2>up almost two percent. This morning, the company reported sales

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<v Speaker 2>and profit that beat analyst estimates. Shar's got a boost

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<v Speaker 2>in part by a Bloomberg report that Anthropic, one of

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<v Speaker 2>Amazon's biggest AI investments, is weighing a funding round that

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<v Speaker 2>may more than double its valuation to nine hundred billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>CEO Andy jase He says Amazon is spending at a

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<v Speaker 2>rapid rate to expand data center capacity to meet the

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<v Speaker 2>intense demand for artificial intelligence computing power.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's no secret that you've got you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the AI labs are spending an incredible amount of money

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<v Speaker 6>on compute at this point, and you can compute both

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<v Speaker 6>on the AI side as well as on the core side.

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<v Speaker 2>CEO Andy Jassey says, sales at Amazon Web Services we're

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seven point six billion dollars during the quarter. That's

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty eight percent from a year ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, on the flip side, care and shares of meta

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<v Speaker 3>platforms are down about eight and a quarter percent in

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<v Speaker 3>early trading. The Facebook parent is raising its spending out

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<v Speaker 3>look for the year, now projecting full year capital expenditures

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<v Speaker 3>of one hundred and twenty five to one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>forty five billion dollars driven by Meta's AI strategy and

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<v Speaker 3>higher component pricing. Now that exceeds analyst estimates and marks

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<v Speaker 3>the roughly seven point four percent increase from Meta's previous

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<v Speaker 3>projections back in January.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey then charees a Microsoft. They're down more than one

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<v Speaker 2>and a half percent. The world's largest software company expects

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<v Speaker 2>sales in its Azure cloud unit to increase about forty

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<v Speaker 2>percent in the current quarter and anticipates modest acceleration in

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<v Speaker 2>the second half of the calendar year. It did say

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<v Speaker 2>capital expenditures, largely for data centers, will total about one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and ninety billion dollar to the end of December,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's more than Wall Street had expected.

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<v Speaker 3>Karen Shares of Qualcomm are surging ten and a half percent.

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<v Speaker 3>The biggest maker of smartphone processor says it's making headway

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<v Speaker 3>in the lucrative data center market and predicts the China

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<v Speaker 3>phone industry will bounce back. Big tech earnings continue today.

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<v Speaker 3>We hear from Apple this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Nathan Shares at Belle Ackman's Pershing Square USA plunged

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen percent in its small Street debut. The drop came

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<v Speaker 2>after they combined initial public offering for the closed end

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<v Speaker 2>fond and his alternative asset manager raised five billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Pershing was hoping to bring in twenty five billion. Ackman

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<v Speaker 2>spoke with Bloomberg yesterday about his goal to build a

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<v Speaker 2>long term diversified holdings company like Warren Buffett.

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<v Speaker 11>Look at Berkshire for the last sixty years, it's built

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<v Speaker 11>most of its value running becoming effectively an insurance holding company.

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<v Speaker 11>That's what Buffett is built over time, and it was

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<v Speaker 11>his successful management of the assets. When you hear Buffet

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<v Speaker 11>buying Apple, it wasn't Buffet buying Apple. It wasn't even

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<v Speaker 11>Berkshire buying Apple. The Berkshire insurance subsidiaries buying Apple. And

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<v Speaker 11>we're going to do the same thing. We're going to

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<v Speaker 11>manage A goal of how to use is to build

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<v Speaker 11>a long term, diverse fight holding company akin to what

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<v Speaker 11>Buffett has done.

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<v Speaker 2>And Pershing Square founder Bill Lackman spoke with our Danny

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<v Speaker 2>Berger on Bloomberg Deals.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first, Karen, let's turn to the economy. Now, the

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<v Speaker 3>Federal Reserve is leaving interest rates unchanged, but that decision

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<v Speaker 3>may have been overshadowed by a big announcement from current

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<v Speaker 3>Fed chair Jay Powell.

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<v Speaker 12>He's staying after my term as chair ends on May fifteen,

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<v Speaker 12>I will continue to serve as a governor for a

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<v Speaker 12>period of time to be determined. I plan to keep

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<v Speaker 12>a low profile as a governor. There's only ever one

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<v Speaker 12>chair of the Federal Reserve Board. When Kevin Worsh is

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<v Speaker 12>confirmed and sworn.

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<v Speaker 5>In, he will be that chair.

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<v Speaker 3>Jay Powell's term as FED Chair ends two weeks from tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 3>but his seat on the Board of Governors doesn't expire

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<v Speaker 3>until twenty twenty eight. The announcement drew harsh criticism from

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<v Speaker 3>Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant.

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<v Speaker 13>I think it's highly unusual for someone who says he's

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<v Speaker 13>an institutionalist and cares about norms at the FED. This

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<v Speaker 13>is a violation of all Federal Reserved norms.

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<v Speaker 5>And I've got to.

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<v Speaker 13>Tell you also, Larry, I think it is an insult

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<v Speaker 13>to Kevin Warsh, Mickey Bowman, and Chris Waller to think

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<v Speaker 13>that these other Republican nominees do not care about the

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<v Speaker 13>institution of the FED and that he alone can maintain

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<v Speaker 13>the integrity of the FED.

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<v Speaker 3>Treasury Secretary Scott bess And spoke with Larry Kudlow on

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<v Speaker 3>Fox Business Now. Palell says he's concerned about a series

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<v Speaker 3>of legal attacks on the FED and that he will

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<v Speaker 3>leave once a probe into the fed's building renovation project is,

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<v Speaker 3>in his words, truly over. Well back in Washington, Careen,

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<v Speaker 3>the longest partial government shut down in history is a

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<v Speaker 3>step closer to ending. The House has approved the first

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<v Speaker 3>part of a two part plan to reopen the Department

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<v Speaker 3>of Homeland Security.

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<v Speaker 14>On this vote, the eyes of two hundred and fifteen.

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<v Speaker 4>The nays are two.

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<v Speaker 5>Hundred and level of one member voting.

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<v Speaker 15>Press listen the concurrent resolution is adopted.

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<v Speaker 3>That resolution would funnel seventy billion dollars into immigration enforcement

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<v Speaker 3>for the next three and a half years. Today, House

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<v Speaker 3>Speaker Mike Johnson hopes to pass the second part of

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<v Speaker 3>the plan to fund the rest of DHS outside ice

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<v Speaker 3>and border patrol through September thirtieth. All this comes after

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<v Speaker 3>the White House told Congress it will not be able

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<v Speaker 3>to pay most DHS workers after today because the fund

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<v Speaker 3>it tapped for April payments has run out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well Nathan, former FBI Director James Comy, has made his

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<v Speaker 2>first court appearance on a second criminal indictment under the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 5>He's facing two.

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<v Speaker 2>Federal charges related to threatening President Trump's life. The case

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<v Speaker 2>centers on a now deleted Instagram post or the numbers

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<v Speaker 2>eighty six and forty seven were arranged with seashells.

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<v Speaker 5>Critics say it could.

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<v Speaker 2>Have been a reference to killing the president, but Komy

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<v Speaker 2>says that was not his intent. Comy did not enter

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<v Speaker 2>a plea and the government did not ask that he

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<v Speaker 2>be detained. A plea hearing date has not been set.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Finally, Karen, Live Golf maybe coming to an end. Bloomberg

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<v Speaker 3>News has learned Saudi A. Ray Baba's Public Investment Fund

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<v Speaker 3>plans to stop financial support for the league after this season.

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<v Speaker 3>The move would bring a jarring into the breakaway league

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<v Speaker 3>that fractured pro golf and fundamentally altered the sports economics

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<v Speaker 3>by luring stars away from the PGA Tour with giant contracts.

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<v Speaker 3>Live cost the Saudi Public Investment Fund and estimated five

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<v Speaker 3>billion dollars over just four years.

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<v Speaker 2>Time now for look at some of the other stories

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<v Speaker 2>making news in New York and around the world. For that,

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<v Speaker 2>we're joined by Bloomers Michael Barr, Michael, good Morning.

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<v Speaker 16>Good morning. Karen King, Charles and Queen Camilla were in

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<v Speaker 16>New York City as part of their historic state visit.

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<v Speaker 16>The royal couple started the New York leg of their

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<v Speaker 16>trip yesterday with a visit to the Nine to Eleven Memorial. Later,

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<v Speaker 16>Charles attended the Greater Together Reception at Rockefeller Plaza to

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<v Speaker 16>mark the fiftieth anniversary of the King's Trust. That's the

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<v Speaker 16>charity that King Jeralds started to help people aged eleven

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<v Speaker 16>to thirty to develop life skill, get ready for work,

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<v Speaker 16>and access job opportunities.

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<v Speaker 15>At this reception, we can celebrate both my King's Trust

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<v Speaker 15>and the enduring cultural bond between the people in the

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<v Speaker 15>United Kingdom and the United States, which causes a relationship

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<v Speaker 15>route in shared creativity, enterprise, and values.

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<v Speaker 16>King Charles also gathered with leaders of some of the

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<v Speaker 16>world's biggest companies to encourage US UK investment and visited

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<v Speaker 16>a Harlem urban farm program. The Trump administration is hailing

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<v Speaker 16>the Supreme Court decision on the Voting Rights Act as

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<v Speaker 16>a quote complete and total victory for American voters. The

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<v Speaker 16>White House said in a statement, the color of one's

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<v Speaker 16>skin should not dictate which congressional district you belong in.

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<v Speaker 16>Congressman Rich McCormick was asked about fellow Republicans in Georgia

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<v Speaker 16>calling for a special session to draw new maps in

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<v Speaker 16>his state before.

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<v Speaker 5>We started early voting. So I don't think we can

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<v Speaker 5>do it in Georgia. I wouldn't be appropriate.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point.

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<v Speaker 16>Justice Selena Kagan called the ruling the LA chapter in

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<v Speaker 16>the Conservative majorities now completed demolition of the Voting Rights Act.

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<v Speaker 16>Police are calling a stabbing on a London street and

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<v Speaker 16>act of terrorism. Two Jewish men were injured. The suspect

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<v Speaker 16>was arrested after trying to attack the responding officers. Global

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<v Speaker 16>News twenty four hours a day and whenever you want

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<v Speaker 16>it with Bloomberg News. Now. I'm Michael Barr, and this

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<v Speaker 16>is Bloomberg Heron.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks Michael all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Now for our Bloomberg Sports Update, and for that we

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<v Speaker 2>bring in John Stashauer.

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<v Speaker 16>Thanks Darren.

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<v Speaker 14>A couple of teams stayed alive in the NBA playoffs.

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<v Speaker 14>Detroit beat Orlando. The Magic Steel lead three games to two.

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<v Speaker 14>Houston beat the Lakers, who still have three two. Also,

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<v Speaker 14>Cleveland beat Toronto and the Calves lead three to two overtime.

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<v Speaker 14>In the Stanley Cup playoffs, Philadelphia a one nothing went

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<v Speaker 14>over Pittsburgh. The Flyers win the series four games to

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<v Speaker 14>two Vegas and double overtime over Utah. Also, Montreal won

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<v Speaker 4>This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager.

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<v Speaker 3>The high seas standoff continues between the US and Iran

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<v Speaker 3>with no led up to the naval blockade of Iran Sports,

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<v Speaker 3>but now more than two months into the war, President

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<v Speaker 3>Trump says a further military response is still an option.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got an amazing military.

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<v Speaker 16>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Now they have to cry uncle.

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<v Speaker 5>That's all they have to do is just say we

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<v Speaker 5>give up.

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<v Speaker 4>I was President Trump at the White House yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Joining us this morning from our European headquarters in London

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<v Speaker 3>is Bloomberg Opinion columnist Mark Champion, covering the Middle East

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<v Speaker 3>and international affairs. Great to have you with us, Mark,

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<v Speaker 3>as we watched this pretty sharp reaction in the commodities

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<v Speaker 3>markets to reports that President Trump may be getting a

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<v Speaker 3>briefing at least on new military options. What are we

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<v Speaker 3>hearing this morning? Could the possibilities be good morning.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, good morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean essentially, what we know is that we have

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<v Speaker 1>a continuing blockade, and then you know, what we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know is whether President Trump will also now you know,

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<v Speaker 1>restart the war. That would in a sense be an

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledgment that he doesn't think that the blockade is going

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<v Speaker 1>to work fast enough for him.

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<v Speaker 5>So, you know, we'll see how that goes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know that there's been so much said at

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<v Speaker 1>various different times, you know, by the White House that

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<v Speaker 1>turned out not to be you know, quite how things

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<v Speaker 1>are quite accurate. So but you know, on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side in Iran, you see, you know, this is really

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of test of wills, tests of how much

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<v Speaker 1>economic pain each side can take.

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<v Speaker 5>So you see, you know, oil prices going up.

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<v Speaker 1>On the other side, you see the real the anion

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<v Speaker 1>currency weakening very sharply as a result of the blockade.

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<v Speaker 5>Both sides that you know, are feeling the pain.

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<v Speaker 1>The one thing you can be sure of is that

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<v Speaker 1>the Iranians won't say we give up. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they may want to come back to the table and

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<v Speaker 1>to preempt either you know, either try and end the blockade,

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<v Speaker 1>either do it by force, you know, by attacking the

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<v Speaker 1>Gulf States again. Certainly they will do that if the

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<v Speaker 1>Americans start restart the war or the Iranians, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>may come back to the table and try and negotiate.

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<v Speaker 4>Again. We've had our own reporting.

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<v Speaker 3>The US Central Command has asked for permission to use

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<v Speaker 3>a hypersonic missile in the in the conflict.

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<v Speaker 4>What potential impact could that have?

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<v Speaker 1>What depends on what they want to use it for,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, in in you know, in the round. I

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<v Speaker 1>would say not much that sounds you know, you say

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<v Speaker 1>these things much as you know President Putin has in Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to is a hypersonic missile. It does, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of focus attention and it's useful in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>psychological warfare. But you know, the munitions that the US

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<v Speaker 1>has used until now have been extremely effective. What it

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<v Speaker 1>is that they would want to do with a hypersonic

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<v Speaker 1>missile that they couldn't do with, you know, with other kinds,

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<v Speaker 1>not quite sure. You know, they are very good at

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<v Speaker 1>evading air defenses. Sophisticated air defenses. Iran's air defenses are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much destroyed, so you know, not quite clear.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, all this is coming is Defense Secretary Pete

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<v Speaker 3>Heggsat has faced some pretty tough questioning on Capitol Hill

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<v Speaker 3>about how the war has been going, the idea of,

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<v Speaker 3>particularly from Democrats, that the US may be heading into

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<v Speaker 3>a quagmire in Iran. Does this look like a quagmire

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<v Speaker 3>at this point to you? Mark not necessarily a quagmire.

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<v Speaker 3>I would very much doubt that this turns into an

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<v Speaker 3>extended war along the lines of Vietnamar again, Stan, even Iraq.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I think they will.

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<v Speaker 1>Both sides actually do want to need an exit, but

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<v Speaker 1>they also think that the other side is going to

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<v Speaker 1>blink first.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's the real problem here. I really don't see it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, you know, in order for there to

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<v Speaker 1>be that kind of quagmire, you really need for boots

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the ground, Americans to put troops in.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what really gets you sucked in, makes it

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to get out. You know, I don't think we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to see that, certainly, not at scale. But nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they even months, you know, weeks or months

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be very, very painful for the global economy,

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<v Speaker 1>and possibly a lot more painful for Europe and Asia

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<v Speaker 1>than it is for the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate your perspective this morning. Mark, Thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 3>joining us on Daybreak That is Bloomberg opinion columnist Mark

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<v Speaker 3>Champion covering the Middle East and international affairs from our

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<v Speaker 3>European headquarters in London. You could read much more of

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<v Speaker 3>Mark's thoughts on the conflict at Olpin go on the Bloomberg.

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<v Speaker 4>Terminal Karen Nathan.

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<v Speaker 2>Another major story where following involves earnings from big tach

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<v Speaker 2>We heard from four big ones after the bell and

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<v Speaker 2>we want to break it all down with the Bloomberg

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<v Speaker 2>Intelligence analyst Matt Bloxam. Matt, good morning. So Alphabet, Meta platforms, Amazon,

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<v Speaker 2>and Microsoft. We're seeing investor reaction mixed. What was your

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<v Speaker 2>big takeaway from the earnings?

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, so a few things. I'll see that there's another

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<v Speaker 17>step up in capital spending by these big companies.

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<v Speaker 5>So where we're already absorbing.

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<v Speaker 17>A seventy percent year, and you increase twenty six versus

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<v Speaker 17>twenty five, which would take this combined spending to six

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<v Speaker 17>hundred and fifty billion dollars based on the overnight reporting

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<v Speaker 17>that six point fifty has now increased to seven hundred

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<v Speaker 17>and twenty three billion dollars, a big chunk of that

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<v Speaker 17>coming from Microsoft and also for Meta, and I think

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<v Speaker 17>some mixed reactions to kind of whether that increased investment

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<v Speaker 17>makes sense, and certainly investors still trying to kind of

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<v Speaker 17>understand when the payback is going to come from these

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<v Speaker 17>investments and how big it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 4>And we saw with.

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<v Speaker 17>Alphabet the parent of Google, that you know, Google's businesses

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<v Speaker 17>are firing on all cylinders, great growth in the kind

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<v Speaker 17>of core ads business, but also really strong growth from

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<v Speaker 17>their cloud business, which increases revenue sixty three percent year

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<v Speaker 17>on year. And a similar story at Amazon where all

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<v Speaker 17>of its different businesses, including cloud, are growing pretty well.

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<v Speaker 17>But at the other end you had Meta, where you know,

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<v Speaker 17>they're not exposed to as many of the kind of

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<v Speaker 17>leavers that's AI's creating much more still focused on and

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<v Speaker 17>ads based business, their large language models lagging behind rivals

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<v Speaker 17>like Anthropic and Open Eye, but they were stepping up kapex,

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<v Speaker 17>and I don't think investors were convinced that the management

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<v Speaker 17>team they have the clarity of what the kind of

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<v Speaker 17>revenue generating opportunity and the return profile looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And when it comes to meta, it seemed like

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<v Speaker 2>CEO Mark Zuckerberg was maybe a bit vague when it

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<v Speaker 2>came to the analysts call, uh, do analysts.

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<v Speaker 5>Really need to hear more from him?

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<v Speaker 2>Then?

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<v Speaker 17>I think maybe not, maybe not so much. Hear more

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<v Speaker 17>from him, but see more in the in the in

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<v Speaker 17>the business and the numbers. And you actually see them

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<v Speaker 17>kind of move forward with their large language model so

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<v Speaker 17>that people feel they've got more bows to their they

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<v Speaker 17>got the kind of opportunity, and also just kind of

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<v Speaker 17>see them solidify the kind of active user basement. Also

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<v Speaker 17>got they've got a huge active user base across their

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<v Speaker 17>different products. But it did dip a little bit in

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<v Speaker 17>the quarter, and I think, you know, there's these kind

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<v Speaker 17>of lingering concerns that as the AI proposition evolves, that

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<v Speaker 17>maybe some of these you know, big established social network

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<v Speaker 17>business and mashing platforms could become more vulnerable and maybe

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<v Speaker 17>the ad dollars will kind of shift elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>And we did. We did talk about Amazon just a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Is cloud division another bright spot here? But we also

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<v Speaker 2>get that report on anthropic can you walk us through

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<v Speaker 2>that too? Is how did that help Amazon?

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<v Speaker 17>There's been so many Anthropic reports.

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<v Speaker 2>Which that Anthropic is wearing a funding round in Anthropy

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<v Speaker 2>is one of Amazon's biggest AI investments.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, you know, I think obviously there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 17>focus on how much these businesses are worth, and I

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<v Speaker 17>think that that particular funding ground could put an even

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<v Speaker 17>bigger valuation on Anthropic. So that's kind of definitely a

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<v Speaker 17>big positive carry for Amazon. I think obviously, you know,

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<v Speaker 17>they're potentially kind of very complementary partners with your anthropics

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<v Speaker 17>claud models being super popular with the enterprise community, and

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<v Speaker 17>obviously tying that together with Amazon's market leading Amazon Web

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<v Speaker 17>Services cloud business, You've potentially got a really winning combination.

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<v Speaker 17>So in some ways they kind of win. One way,

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<v Speaker 17>they get revenue coming in through Amazon Web Services, that

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<v Speaker 17>also helps Anthropic, and the anthropic valuation goes up and

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<v Speaker 17>that helps Amazon. So it's kind of a nice reinforcement

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<v Speaker 17>circle they've got there.

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