1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Cast play an. 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: This is Buzznight and this is the Taking a Walk Podcast. 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: Welcome to another Taking a Walk classic replay. We released 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: this one back in February and I still hear people 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: talking about it. I recently heard from Jim, who lives 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: outside of Pittsburgh, who said he was first introduced to 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: the Taking a Walk Podcast from this particular episode with 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: John Anderson from Yes. It was a blast, even though 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: it was virtual. I loved it. He actually referred to 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: me prior to the interview as mister light Year. 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 1: He was the. 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: Unmistakable voice of Yes. So many great years, soaring vocals, 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: great personality. We'll talk to John Anderson from Yes on 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: this classic replay next. 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 3: Well, John Anderson, I'm truly honored and grateful to have 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 3: you on Taken a Walk. You've been a large part 17 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: of my life for so many years. 18 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 4: Excellent buss. 19 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 5: So, when was that moment in time when you first 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 5: realized that you were a musician, that you were stuck 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 5: in this business? 22 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: At what moment was that. 23 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 4: When I stopped working on the farm with my brother, 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 4: Because my brother and myself worked on this farm about 25 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 4: a mile or so away from the home in Aycreington, 26 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 4: northern England and we get up every morning five thirty 27 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 4: and the old weathers, you know, snow, rain or shine whatever, 28 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 4: and we get on the bus and go up to 29 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 4: the farm. And we got on the farm and we'd 30 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: go and start milking the cows and shoveling a lot 31 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 4: of cow poop and singing. We sang all the time 32 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 4: together because we were fans with the Everly Brothers. This 33 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 4: is nineteen fifty eight fifty nine. And then Buddy Holly 34 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 4: came along and so he sang Buddy Holly. And then 35 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 4: was the guy with the dark glasses, Roy Orbison. What 36 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 4: a what a guy? And so basically, you know, we 37 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 4: we we. My brother had a band, you see, and 38 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 4: they were called the Warriors or sometimes the Warriors, and 39 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 4: there were two singers. There was my brother and a 40 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 4: guy called I can't remember his name, buy he was 41 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 4: he was he wanted to be a hairdresser, so he left, 42 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 4: he left the band. So my brother said, why don't 43 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 4: you join the band. You know, we can do Evelyns 44 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 4: and I'll do Elvis Presley and you can do Roy Orbison. 45 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 4: And so I said, yeah, let's do that. Screw this 46 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 4: working hard on the farm. I wanted to get out 47 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: and tour the world, not knowing that I it would happen, 48 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 4: but you know, you wanted to and that's you know, 49 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 4: that's when I started to realize being at a band 50 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 4: was more fun than shoveling a lot of shit. 51 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: So it was a different version of ship. You had 52 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: a shovel at times. 53 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 4: Right, don't want to go there, but it was a 54 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 4: breakthrough for me to, you know, to realize that we 55 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 4: could travel. We had a van and we traveled and 56 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 4: all over England and Scotland and Wales, and eventually we 57 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 4: went to Germany to follow the Beetle Trail. Now, the 58 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 4: Beetle Trail was very simple. That you play in a 59 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 4: club eight hours a night, and then you go two 60 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 4: weeks there and then you go to Munich, then you 61 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 4: go to Hamburg, Copenhagen, back to kun Klun. So that's 62 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: what we did for about six months and by then 63 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 4: and we were frazzled. My brother left the band and 64 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 4: I'm with the with the guys, and I think I 65 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: took a lot of what was it called acid, just 66 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 4: like everybody else, did you know the Beatles had Sergeant 67 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 4: Pepper and Revolver and everything, so music was going. But 68 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 4: do you know, and that's that's how I stayed in 69 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 4: the whole idea, because you know, I just had a 70 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 4: problem that I kept hearing music in my head like 71 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 4: big time ideas, and I go to see the guys 72 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 4: in in the in the bedroom next door, I said, 73 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 4: come on, guys, it's tend in the morning. Let's go 74 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 4: on rehearse and they would say, f off, John. And 75 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 4: for the second morning I went and I said, guys, 76 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 4: we got to rehearse. Come on, guys, we could be 77 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 4: a great band. F Off, they all said in unison. 78 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: So I piked my bigs and left the band and 79 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 4: that was probably the best thing I ever did. It 80 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 4: was kind of frightening, but I did it. 81 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 5: Do you remember the first time you heard Sergeant Pepper 82 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 5: and what your reaction was? 83 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: Hamburg? I was in Hamburg and my friend Brian Chattan 84 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 4: was a keyboard player. He had a hat with a 85 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 4: balloon hanging from it with the hotel and so the 86 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 4: blue was up in the air like that, and we 87 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 4: were actually singing all the songs because we spent all 88 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 4: night singing them, and that's all we did all for 89 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 4: about a week. We sang every song every word and 90 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 4: smoked a lot of marijuana, a few taps of acid. 91 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 4: You know, come on, it was rock and roll. 92 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 5: So that whole London scene in nineteen sixty eight was 93 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 5: a hotbed of real creativity, right. Everything seemed to all 94 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 5: styles seemed to blend together musically, there was a little 95 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 5: bit of this and a little bit of that. Can 96 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 5: you talk about some of those styles then? As Yes 97 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 5: was first formed. 98 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 4: Well, I think the great music that I was hearing 99 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 4: at that time was Buffalo, Springfield, the Beach Boys, great Recordings, Zappa, 100 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 4: Oh my god, you know, it was like and then 101 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: I got turned onto jazz by I met Keith Jarrett. 102 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 4: He was eighteen at that time, young guy. And then 103 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 4: I started listening to a lot of very various music 104 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: at that time. And that's when I went to London 105 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 4: and I met Chris and we were sort of like 106 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 4: brothers right away, and we both had the same intention, 107 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 4: and we both loved Simon and Garfunkle. The album had 108 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 4: just come out You Bridge over Trouble Waters and just 109 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 4: create new music. And that was London and it was 110 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 4: all like got in New York and la everywhere in 111 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 4: the world. We weren't alone with the idea that music 112 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: was like an open door of because you didn't. Because 113 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 4: I was probably by then about twenty six, I thought 114 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 4: I was too old to be a pop star. So 115 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 4: I just wanted to write some music. And I started 116 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 4: studying Stravinsky and Sibelius, and that's changed my life. You know, 117 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 4: I've just I've just been walking over the hills and 118 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 4: far away around where I walk every morning listening to 119 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 4: Rachmaninof's third Piano Concerto by this lovely lady called Martha. 120 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 4: I can't remember her last name, Argonaut. She's an incredible, 121 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 4: incredible performance, and I've been listening to it for the 122 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 4: last month every day. You know, every day you keep learning. 123 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 4: You know, you're learn structure. And that's what I was 124 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 4: doing with Chris and the Yes. When Yes started, all 125 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 4: I could think about was structure, and you know, let's 126 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: just do this kind of an idea, that kind of idea. Unhappily, 127 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 4: at that time, everybody listened. 128 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 5: You had a description of a band that you saw 129 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 5: this pretty incredible that really influenced you, called the Maha 130 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 5: Vishna Orchestra, and your review of that seeing John McLaughlin 131 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,559 Speaker 5: and band there, I love it how you said after 132 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 5: seeing Mahavishna that you couldn't breathe. 133 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: It was such an. 134 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 4: Experience, unbelievable. It was. It was like everything rolled into one. 135 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 4: It was like Zappa meets this band, meets that band, 136 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, this band on stage and 137 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 4: they didn't have a singer. He just played this music, 138 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 4: which was a miracle in a way. Me and Christa 139 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 4: there and we got the same experience about six months 140 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 4: earlier with King Crimson in London watching them do it 141 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 4: their first show. They played the whole album in the 142 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 4: court of the Crimson King and it was magnificent because 143 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 4: they just learned it, just recorded it, and that was 144 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 4: the first performance in this club. But seeing my Vishnar 145 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 4: was like another level and it just I think it 146 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 4: sort of opens up your state of consciousness, you know, 147 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 4: about music. And in that time I was lucky to 148 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 4: meet Vangelis and started working with Vangelis and that was 149 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 4: another stepping stone to musical sort of discovery. 150 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 5: Well, so when you were working at the Marquee Club, 151 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 5: that was a place that you encountered a lot of 152 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 5: people as that they would roll through and play there. 153 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 5: Everybody from Pete Townsend and some other notorious characters. One 154 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 5: of them was Jimmy Hendrix, who I think you encountered everybody. 155 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 4: Everybody encountered jim Hendrix. 156 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: Did guys do together when you hung out? 157 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 4: Me? I just just another I was. I was stunned. 158 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 4: I actually saw him for the first time in Munich 159 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 4: and he came back to the house that I was 160 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 4: living in. I was living in the closet, these two 161 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 4: lovely girls that were looking after me because I was 162 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 4: out of my brain, and he sat down and smoke 163 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 4: a joint with me, and he didn't say anything. He 164 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 4: didn't have to say anything. He just performed on stage 165 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 4: like a god messiah from from another world, you know. 166 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 4: And then I met him again. He got up and 167 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 4: performed with Ross and Roland Kirk in the Jazz Club 168 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: in London for an hour spontaneous and that was my 169 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 4: first real, real taste of pure jazz. 170 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 3: You know. 171 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 5: Wow. So so with stimulants you encountered Jimmy Hendrix. That's 172 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 5: pretty incredible. 173 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. It was a nice guy, you know, he was 174 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 4: he'd been there and back a dozen times, you know, 175 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: that kind of guy that you know, he knows who 176 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 4: he is, what he does. 177 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: So in terms of these these major influences. 178 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 5: The Beatles as an example, Simon and Carfunkel as an example. 179 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 5: So Yes would then go on in those two instances 180 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 5: to honor those artists by by covering their music. Can 181 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 5: you talk about those two amazing examples of the tribute 182 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 5: Yes did to those to those artists with the great 183 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 5: music that you put. 184 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 4: Out, Well, it was it was only uh, we went 185 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 4: on tour when we first had their first album. We 186 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 4: went on tour with carsh I w gonn to forget 187 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 4: his name, it'll be terrible Freedom. He had a big 188 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 4: song called freedom Richie Havens. Yeah, so Richie Havens and 189 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 4: these two guys who were with him were magnificent. They 190 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 4: were put on such a great show every every every gig, 191 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 4: and there was a song called No Experience Necessary. And 192 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 4: I said, come on, we're going to do this in 193 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: honor of Richie. Man, what a beautiful guy. And that's 194 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 4: what we did. And I remember we used to do 195 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 4: as an encore. 196 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: We used to do. 197 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 4: You Tell Lies and I can see you, Chris, you're laughing, 198 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 4: and yeah, I'm going to do that next next spring. 199 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:35,119 Speaker 1: I love that. But did every little thing too, every little. 200 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 4: Thing yeah, you're reminded me. God, yeah, I think we 201 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 4: were just searching for what to what to rehearse, you know, 202 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 4: we we we'd rehearse a couple of ideas me and 203 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 4: Chris had written. Chris had written one. I had a 204 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 4: couple of more ideas. I think it took a little 205 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 4: time for us to tour together and get to annoy 206 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 4: each other better with At that time it was Tony 207 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 4: Kay and Peter Banks and Bill Bruford. You know, it's 208 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 4: funny because when we first started rehearsing with his with 209 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 4: Chris's band, the drummer left to get a gig in 210 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 4: He had a gig in France, and I said, why 211 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: why is he leaving the band? That's first day, you know, 212 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 4: reason we haven't even started. He said, well, he gets 213 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 4: he's getting paid. I thought, oh, yeah, I get it. 214 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 4: That's where we got Bill Brufford. 215 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 5: And then you would you would do this amazing version 216 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:36,599 Speaker 5: of America as well. What an amazing song, and what 217 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 5: a great version the guest did. 218 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember Pete. We said we're going to do 219 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 4: America and then we didn't see people for a day. 220 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:55,599 Speaker 4: Came another day later he started playing the which was 221 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 4: a great part of the song itself, you know, I 222 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: think that was it. But Keith Emerson had done on 223 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 4: keyboards like Crazy Wild. I mean, that whole West Side 224 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 4: story was a boon for musicians because it was just 225 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 4: so beautifully done, great songs. 226 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 5: So the first tour was quite a quite a bunch 227 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 5: of bands together. The first tour was The Who, Rod 228 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 5: Stewart in Small Faces, Joe Cocker, Yes, and the Crazy 229 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 5: World of Arthur Brown. 230 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, Arthur Brown. He would sing fire. He had this 231 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: sort of crown that was gas lights and then it 232 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 4: lights his head up and all the fire would come 233 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 4: out of his set. The great show. Everybody went on 234 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 4: for ten minutes except that Who. They played as long 235 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 4: as they want because they were the Who. And Pete 236 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 4: Tomsen actually spoke to me on the last gig. He said, 237 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 4: he came up. I was watching Joe Cocker on stage 238 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 4: and I met Joe cockin when he was sixteen. It's 239 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 4: a lovely story which is in my memoirs, the story. 240 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: And so Peter, a very tall guy stands behind me 241 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 4: and he's wanted to be watching Joe, and he said, John, 242 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 4: and I thought, Pete's talking to me. Your band is 243 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 4: very good. I just want to let you know your 244 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 4: band is very good. And I kept thinking, Pete Toe's 245 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 4: is swing to me, I can't believe it. And then 246 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 4: he said, I'm doing an album about a blind, deaf 247 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 4: and dumb guy. What do you think about that? And 248 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 4: I said to myself, Pete Tees is so good to me. 249 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 4: I didn't know what to say. You know, what do 250 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: you say to that? And then Tommy came out and 251 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 4: that was just extraordinary. 252 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 5: You know, did all the bands on a tour such 253 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 5: as that that everybody get along? Was? There? 254 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: Was there peace and harmony on the tour. 255 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 4: A lot of drinking in those days, a lot of 256 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 4: drinking and a little bit of marijuana. Everybody got on well, 257 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 4: you know, yeah, no issues, No, that came later, you know, 258 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 4: that came later in the dark days. 259 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 260 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 5: So when you think of favorite venues that you've played 261 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 5: with Yes, whether it be big stadium venues or smaller venues, 262 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 5: what are some of your favorite places that you still 263 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 5: enjoy playing well? 264 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 4: Of course, you know, no matter where you play, the 265 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 4: audiences are great. You're just there's so many places that 266 00:16:55,800 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 4: we played over the years with Yes, magical, very magical times. 267 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 4: And I reflect on that. When I'm on tour, I 268 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 4: actually love small theaters. I played my solo show in 269 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 4: New York at the B. B. King Little Club around 270 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 4: the corner on Fifth at forty second Street whatever. They 271 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 4: were great shows, you know. And then we do Madison 272 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 4: Square Gardens with Yes and what the hell all these 273 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 4: wonderful people, twenty thousand people for five nights, and you go, 274 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 4: I can't believe this is happening. You know, So you 275 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 4: have in life, you know, you have extremes, So you know, 276 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 4: now I'm happy. I'm more happy just to tour. I've 277 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 4: been touring with these young teenagers the Academy of Rock. 278 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 4: Paul Green, who invented School of Rock, has the Academy 279 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 4: Rock and we've toured last August, which was just incredible 280 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 4: fun because I said to them, why do we do, 281 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 4: you know, close to the edge guys, you know, and 282 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 4: they all said, okay, they you started doing it. You know. 283 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 4: It's like they didn't argue, they just said, okay, we'll 284 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 4: do that, you know, And they were just brilliant people, 285 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 4: young people, very wonderful and you get the chance to 286 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 4: do that in a lifetime. You know. We did it 287 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 4: twenty years ago with the School of Rock when it 288 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 4: was a School of Rock, and I've done it a 289 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 4: couple of years now with the Academy of Rock and 290 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 4: we're going on to next summer Europe with Academy of 291 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 4: Rock kids. And I feel like a kid when I'm 292 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 4: with them until we do a selfie. We do a 293 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 4: selfie and I say, who's that old guy? It's me. 294 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:46,479 Speaker 5: It looks so the fun looks so contagious at the 295 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 5: School of Rock events. 296 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know they're not beaten up yet. Hopefully 297 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 4: they will never get beaten up emotionally about this crazy 298 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 4: business that we live in. You know, is all down 299 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 4: to music. If you can get your next level of 300 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 4: consciousness about music, that's the survival thing. And it makes 301 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 4: you want to just make more music. Whether it's whether 302 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 4: it reaches people or not, it's not the point. It's 303 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 4: just making new music. And it was only about gostious 304 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 4: fifteen years ago when MP three's came up in the computer. 305 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 4: You could use an MP three and work with people 306 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 4: around the world, you know, send it. And I put 307 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 4: a nutvert on my Facebook saying musicians wanted send a 308 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 4: minute of your music and if I like it, I'll 309 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 4: get back to you, And I got about one hundred 310 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 4: people over a period of year or so, and I 311 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 4: got back to about twenty of them, twenty five of them, 312 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 4: and I'm still in touch with them because they were 313 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 4: very really talented and they understood that they could create music. 314 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 4: And I would sing something that I would never sing 315 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 4: with anybody else because it's them, because they are this 316 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 4: music and met so many wonderful people over the years 317 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 4: via the Internet. So that's an interesting idea that music 318 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 4: should never stand still in your state of consciousness. You've 319 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 4: got a next level, next thing. I gotta say. I'm 320 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 4: gonna sing rak Maaninoff's third I started writing lyrics to 321 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 4: it because the beautiful melodies, you know, and I thought, well, 322 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 4: well why not, I'll probably write some lyrics to Rachmaninoff's 323 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 4: third Piano, keep Me out of Trouble. 324 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 5: Music really is a healing force, isn't it, John, Yeah, 325 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 5: for sure. 326 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: I remember as a kid, you know, I'd sit by 327 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 4: the by the radio. The radio stood on the floor 328 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 4: and I'd sit by it and I'd listen. And the 329 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 4: things that I remember are Vaughlan Williams music and host 330 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 4: Planet Suite. Mars used to freak me out as a kid, 331 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 4: and then you listen to just beautiful orchestral music. And then, 332 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 4: of course, as I said earlier, you know, you you 333 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 4: start listening to very American music, a lot of rock 334 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 4: and roll is yes, this is American, is kind of. 335 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 4: It's kind of because where where I was listening to 336 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 4: was old they called it skiffle in England and it 337 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 4: was actually songs from country and Western. So the country 338 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 4: and Western with the birth of rock and roll. I 339 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 4: don't know how it happened, but there was a certain 340 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 4: element of whiskey something like that. The drummer just you know, 341 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 4: really stick to it, you know, based stick to it, 342 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 4: and chat Adkins what incredible, incredible guitar player, brilliant. So 343 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 4: all that stem from American energy, and of course R 344 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 4: and B came from American So we sort of mismashed everything, 345 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 4: I think, and it's kind of cool as well. 346 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: So we had this mutual friend, Lee Abrams, who is. 347 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 5: Legendary consultant, inventor, innovator, and he certainly was gracious to 348 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 5: connect us. Talk about what Lee Abrams means to the band, yes, 349 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 5: and to you personally. 350 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 4: Well, it's kind of a crazy story, but I think 351 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 4: we will enjoy. This is that he used to come 352 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 4: and hang around the band with a couple of three 353 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 4: other guys, and we'd see them in Miami, or we'd 354 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 4: see them in Chattanooga, or see them in New York. 355 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 4: There they are again. It's that guy again with all 356 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 4: these friends. And so we got to know each other 357 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 4: and they hung out like a fan of the band. 358 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 4: And he was a very interesting guy. But I never 359 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 4: really connected with him closely. Chris did Chris. Chris and 360 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 4: him got into a whole world together for a while, 361 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 4: and then strange things happened. But I really got into 362 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 4: the idea. I've been listening to I've said this many times, 363 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 4: but I've been listening to Sibelius's Seventh Symphony, which is 364 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 4: a glorious piece of music. And I was on tour 365 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 4: doing some I can't remember which tour it was, but 366 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 4: I was definitely fragile. It was a fragile tour, and 367 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 4: I was listening to this music and then I put 368 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 4: it on and then after a while I listened to 369 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 4: it and it stopped and I looked at the cassette 370 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 4: and it was, like you said, twenty six minutes long. 371 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 4: The Seventh Symphony is only twenty six minutes long. And 372 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 4: up until then I've been listening to symphonies that were 373 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 4: always in three parts first, second, and third movement. But 374 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 4: this was the first twenty six minute piece that held 375 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 4: my state of mind, and I just went, wow, that's amazing. 376 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 4: And at that time around America, we were playing a 377 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 4: lot of colleges and the college radio was FM radio, 378 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,719 Speaker 4: and they would play the hell out of you know, 379 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 4: Starship Trooper, which is like seven minutes long, where any 380 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 4: other record radio station would play anything under four minutes job, 381 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 4: you know, three minutes thirty three. It's perfect. So I 382 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 4: really made me a bit confused that there were making 383 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 4: harder the Sunrise and it's a piece of music. You know. 384 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I'll never get hurt on the radio though, 385 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 4: And so I thought, wait a minute, I fem radio. 386 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 4: That's the key. And I got together with Steve. I said, Steve, 387 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 4: why don't we just do this music and make it 388 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 4: into a long form, twenty minute piece of music. And 389 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 4: then he said, I've got this idea. He goes close 390 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 4: to the round by the corner and I sang down 391 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 4: at the end round by the river. Because I've been 392 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 4: reading Herman hess said Arthur, who found a spiritual energy 393 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 4: down by the river. So we sketched out during the 394 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 4: course of the Fragile tour, we sketched out an idea 395 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 4: for Close to the Edge, and interestingly enough, we started 396 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 4: recording it and Chris was on board and Bill loved it. 397 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 4: Everybody loved it, and the idea of it and what 398 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 4: we're going to just do Close to the Edge and 399 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 4: two other songs. That's all it is. We've got FM 400 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 4: radio all over America. You know. Meanwhile, behind the scenes 401 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 4: in America, Lee Abrams came up with an idea and radio, 402 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 4: You've got forty songs to play in the space and whatever, 403 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 4: and that's what we're going to do from now on, 404 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 4: all over America. So by the time we released Close 405 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 4: to the Edge, there was nowhere to There was no 406 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 4: IFM radio, So it was like Lee A Brahms, you 407 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 4: notty boy. But then, you know, a few years ago 408 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 4: we bumped into each other on tour with the kids. 409 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 4: I think it was twenty years ago, ten years ago, 410 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 4: and you know, a lovely guy and he's kind of 411 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 4: my he's like, my, what's the word guide to what's 412 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 4: happening in the world? On many different levels. He's such 413 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 4: a smart guy. So me and Jay, we just love 414 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 4: the guy and we go out for dinner whatever in Chicago. 415 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 4: But he sends me a weekly update of what's happening 416 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 4: in the world, and he's right on the money. There 417 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 4: is that we're sort of going the wrong way on 418 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 4: every kind of level. That One of the craziest things 419 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 4: that hit me about a month ago was watching with 420 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 4: my grandkids. I was watching children's TV and it's pretty 421 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 4: wild and crazy. But then there's these adverts that are 422 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 4: just aimed at the kids who are just waking up 423 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 4: to life, and they're dangerous. They're very dangerous advertising. It's 424 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 4: very dark and dangerous. I don't like it. And then 425 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 4: you know, we all know that the media media is 426 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 4: just making money because that's all they're interested in. They 427 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 4: don't care what the adverts about sort of thing. And 428 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 4: that's been a very dangerous position to figure out, how 429 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 4: can we move forward consciously if we're teaching our kids 430 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 4: to go and buy something they don't really need that much. 431 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 4: But it's like material others, isn't it? And if materialism 432 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 4: And this was taught to me by a wonderful guy 433 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 4: called lng Walker, a beautiful Native American guy who walked 434 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 4: to the length of America to ask for justice for 435 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 4: the treaties that were never kept. Anyway, he said, young people, 436 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 4: they're caught up in the materialistic world and they'll never 437 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 4: come back to get lost in the materialistic world. And 438 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 4: it's nothing to do with Madonna. 439 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, right on. 440 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 5: Well Lee is Lee is that he is a sherpa 441 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 5: to where we are the president, where we're headed in 442 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 5: the future. 443 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it would be good if you know, 444 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 4: stick him on TV. Come on, you know, come on, Lee, 445 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 4: put on a show. 446 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 5: So in closing, I would like to get your reflections 447 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 5: on the loss of Jeff Beck. 448 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 4: Oh god, I was. It was only a couple of 449 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 4: months ago. I was listening to Jeff Beck. I just 450 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 4: I'd seen him perform live, I'd seen him with the 451 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 4: yard Birds, and I've seen him in London and he 452 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 4: was he was. He was such a character that he 453 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 4: could I could never speak to him at all, you know, 454 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 4: he just got that look about it. Don't fuck with me, 455 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 4: But man, he could play guitar like nobody. I never 456 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 4: heard anybody play like that, and a lot of people 457 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 4: discovered how to do it. Brilliant brilliant artists, and it's 458 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 4: just natural that eventually they have to go home, you know, 459 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 4: like we all have to. And that's okay. The same 460 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 4: with Alan, you know, my best he was my best man, 461 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 4: you know, Alan White, but you know eventually he had 462 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 4: to go home, and say with Chris, you know, so 463 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 4: people keep heading in that direction. I think it's just 464 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 4: a next world. It's another world. It's another not this world. 465 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 4: It's a next world. And that's what I sing about 466 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 4: quite a lot these days, that we're living in a 467 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 4: very transitional world and we don't need to look very 468 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 4: far to understand the next world. I think all you 469 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 4: have to do is sit very quietly and listen to 470 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 4: the birds sing that. 471 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 3: Uh. 472 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 4: And that's my final word. 473 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 5: Thank you for the joy that that you continue to 474 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 5: give us. Good luck on School of Rock or anything 475 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 5: else you have up your sleeve. 476 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: And in this this year. 477 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this year, I'm doing the Bank Geeks in April. 478 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 4: Come and see the Bank Geeks and John Anderson doing 479 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 4: epics and classics. The Bank Geeks. Somebody sent me a 480 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 4: tape of them performing yes songs in their studio and 481 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 4: I thought, wait a minute, these aren't just like the record, 482 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 4: not just like just like the record. And a year 483 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 4: ago I got in terms of the bass player. Richie said, Richie, 484 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 4: you're crazy. You're playing Yes songs exactly like they were recorded. 485 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 4: And he said, you know, that's what we do. I said, well, 486 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 4: it's amazing. Why don't we go on tour. 487 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 5: With you? 488 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 4: I said, yeah, with me, we could go on tour 489 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 4: and do you know the classics and the epics, because 490 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 4: I've always wondered nobody's going to play the epics like 491 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 4: they could be played? And they said thank you. I said, okay, Richie, 492 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 4: we should do it. And we're actually been rehearsing yesterday 493 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 4: and they sound really, really good. So it's going to 494 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 4: be a great show for anybody who loves Yes. And 495 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 4: we're going to be touring the East Coast in April 496 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 4: and then probably later in the the West coast, but 497 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 4: very much later, like December January. Smrolina for you. Johnny Anderson, No, no, 498 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 4: I've got to get on with the next project. I was. 499 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 4: I was, that's it. I'm going to sing the melodies 500 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 4: from right Man and offs third Piano. 501 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: I love it. 502 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 5: Well, I hope next time, but we won't be virtual 503 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 5: taking a walk and then we could actually take a 504 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 5: walk in person. 505 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: But I feel like I was just about there with you. 506 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 4: Buzz. Where do you live. 507 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: I live outside of Boston. 508 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 4: John will come and see the show, you better believe it. 509 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: I will be there. 510 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 4: I'll get you tickets and you can backstage meet even greet. 511 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 4: But we don't do me and greet these days because 512 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 4: the COVID is coming back. No, I can't get it 513 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 4: to the well, it's not coming back. Don't worries. 514 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so everything's going to be all right. I'm very 515 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: grateful John for everything. Thank you for being on. 516 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 4: Take care of Buzz. 517 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 2: Taking a Walk with Buzz Night is available on Spotify, 518 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.