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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hell that for me, I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for Dake Edith State. Is that woo woom? And then

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Solid Rebel boys and girls. My

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Speaker 2: name is ty hilden Brandt, joining me as always over

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Speaker 2: there beautiful Chicago, Illinois. Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty good. I'm excited to nibble at the bones

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Speaker 1: of the college football off season. I don't juicy wings.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where I'm going with that, but I'm

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Speaker 1: very excited for this episode. There are there's a really

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Speaker 1: nice thematic crossover that we have going on with today

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Speaker 1: shows that I'm particularly proud of. Yeah, So, as we've

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Speaker 1: mentioned here before, you are turning forty in the fall

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Speaker 1: in the fall, correct fall, late Paul, Thank you, by

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Speaker 1: the way, thank you for reminding me of this simple

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Speaker 2: Several times so far this year. Thank you for reminding

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Speaker 2: me your true friend.

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Speaker 1: Of course. Of course, Well, first of all, you don't

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Speaker 1: look forty. You look like you're in your early to

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Speaker 1: mid thirties, like I am. And whoa wa wait early

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Speaker 1: to mid thirties. Yeah, I'm thirty seven, and so that's

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know alone, I like you, Well, i'll give

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Speaker 1: Do mid, I know. So I was thinking about it,

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Speaker 1: the rear view mirror is chipping off, right.

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Speaker 2: You start we're talking about portfolios once you hit forty,

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Speaker 2: and you're just not when you're twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking ear hair, you're talking having to ice

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Speaker 1: I want to say is you're you're officially like, okay,

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Speaker 2: says health checklists for men in their forties. I did

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Speaker 1: doing an off topic show with our friend Bill Barnwell

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Speaker 1: of ESPN about nineties kids sports movies that'll be released

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Speaker 1: Friday morning to our verballers at verbalers dot com, our

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Speaker 1: our Patreon patrons. That's right.

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Speaker 2: You can also go to newsletter dot Soliverbal dot com.

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Speaker 2: I am steering hard into the newsletter angle this year.

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Speaker 2: I am always open to ways to try and add

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Speaker 2: value to people's everyday lives. And uh yeah, so newsletter

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Speaker 2: Dan, I'm wearing Air Jordans right now. I've evolved into

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Speaker 1: I would love to.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget to tell all your friends to follow along

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Speaker 2: of their choosing, and as Dan said, go on out

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Speaker 2: to verballers dot com. We are doing the nineties sports

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hornier than I remember the nineties kids sports movies.

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Speaker 2: m Okay. So in twenty nineteen, Iowa went ten and three.

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Speaker 2: And so me as the elder statesman of this show,

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Speaker 1: Why don't we go to Auburn? Dan Auburn?

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Speaker 2: The one that is shining through the most is one

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Speaker 2: number twenty two. Embrace the change, embrace the change of

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Speaker 1: Just to get out of the comfort zone. Get out

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Speaker 2: about every other year. It's like every other year when

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Speaker 2: you don't think Auburn's going to have a good year,

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Speaker 2: they have a good year. When you think they should,

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Speaker 2: they don't. So it's been the tale of two Cities

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Speaker 2: to an extent for the Auburn Tigers. If you're Brian

436
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Speaker 2: Harson coming in, I think you want to try and

437
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Speaker 2: establish that consistency. Now, maybe it's not ten wins every year,

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Speaker 2: it probably.

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Speaker 1: Isn't in the SEC.

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Speaker 2: But if you can, if you can consistently be at

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Speaker 2: like a nine win level and every so often bump

442
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Speaker 2: up to ten eleven, if you're really lucky, twelve, I

443
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Speaker 2: think that's entirely in the cards, but we kind of

444
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Speaker 2: don't know what it's going to look like yet. And

445
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Speaker 2: it's a difficult SEC schedule as it always is. They've

446
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Speaker 2: got Penn State in twenty one coming up here in

447
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Speaker 2: the fall. Second to last week is September. That's going

448
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Speaker 2: to be a tough road non conference game. So it's

449
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Speaker 2: it's just not gonna be easy. And in the short term,

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. I was really high on bow

451
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Speaker 2: Knicks when he took the reins. He's a legacy. He

452
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Speaker 2: did have moments in his freshman year, especially where we

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Speaker 2: you know, the stats kind of kind of painted a

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Speaker 2: different picture, but there were there were certainly moments in the.

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Speaker 1: Early Oregon in Alabama. Yeah, in the.

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Speaker 2: Early part of bo Nix's career where it was like,

457
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Speaker 2: this kid's got some intangibles. I tend to agree with you.

458
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Speaker 2: Now after another season, I'm not sure he's the guy.

459
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Speaker 2: So I don't know if it's taken dancing lessons, I

460
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Speaker 2: don't know if it's the full on colonoscopy, two different

461
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Speaker 2: sides of the spectrum there.

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Speaker 1: You know, a colonoscopy just is a picture taking procedure.

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Speaker 1: They're not cleaning everything out. I am aware of what

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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Okay, I do appreciate that I am aware,

466
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Speaker 2: but in some way, shape or form, the move for

467
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Speaker 2: Auburn is one of self reflection, looking in the mirror

468
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Speaker 2: and being honest with oneself. And so whether it's hey,

469
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Speaker 2: I got I gotta stretch my limits, I got to

470
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Speaker 2: get outside my comfort zone and take dancing lessons, or

471
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Speaker 2: it's I got this pain in my gut, I got

472
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Speaker 2: to get this thing checked out. One or the other,

473
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Speaker 2: they got to do something to just truly evaluate where

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Speaker 2: they're at in life.

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Speaker 1: I would also add number fourteen, put yourself out there

476
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Speaker 1: because they're recruiting to be expected with the coaching transition

477
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Speaker 1: fell off a cliff, and this last class and this

478
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Speaker 1: next class. Obviously there haven't been guys on campus and

479
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Speaker 1: camps and spring days and all sorts of things like that,

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Speaker 1: but hasn't started off in a gangbuster's way. And so

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Speaker 1: I'm positive this staff is making things a priority out

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Speaker 1: on the recruiting trail. But it really needs to be

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Speaker 1: seen in the twenty twenty two class that Auburn just landed,

484
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Speaker 1: because I think they went from the number seven class

485
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Speaker 1: to the number twenty class and all things considered, it's

486
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Speaker 1: a pretty big drop off. So I am going to

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Speaker 1: say put yourself out there, number fourteen and just really

488
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Speaker 1: really sing the sort of praises of the Auburn brand,

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Speaker 1: whatever that is. Let's go to North Carolina. Dan Okay.

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Speaker 2: North Carolina led by one Mac Brown seven and six

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Speaker 2: in year one under Mac eight and four. This past season,

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Speaker 2: COVID weird year offense took a huge jump forward, huge

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Speaker 2: jump forward by any measure of the offense was outstanding

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Speaker 2: both through the air and on the ground. On the

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Speaker 2: defensive side, I think we were looking for more of

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Speaker 2: an improvement, Daniel. It did sort of tread water. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't as big of a jump as many were expecting,

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Speaker 2: though they have recruited well on that side of the football.

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Speaker 2: Defense probably actually got a little bit worse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the defense was fine. I mean they played some

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Speaker 1: tough offenses, but there were stretches there. I mean this

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Speaker 1: you're looking at a program that what they went seven

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Speaker 1: and three within the ACC and they beat like Western

504
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Speaker 1: Carolina or something, so they had technically had eight wins.

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Speaker 1: So they go eight and four if you include the

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Speaker 1: bowl game loss to Texas A and M. But their

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Speaker 1: losses during the season that were not that they were

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Speaker 1: going to have a good chance at winning. They were

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Speaker 1: never going to win that Notre Dame game with the

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Speaker 1: way that Notre Dame defense was playing, especially letting Jordan

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Speaker 1: Travis run all over them and letting everybody on the floor.

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Speaker 2: State offense frustrated by North Carolina on the rewatch, weren't.

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Speaker 1: You I rewatched the Virginia game and Sam Howell shredded

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Speaker 1: the whose They ran the ball fine, but Sam Howell

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Speaker 1: shredded them all game long and did enough to win

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Speaker 1: that game. The issue is Sam Howell and just mistakes

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Speaker 1: in general, in terms of turnovers and mistakes. It killed

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Speaker 1: the Heels. It kept them out of the game, and

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Speaker 1: they Sam Howe kept bringing them in and then so

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Speaker 1: you have Sam Howell bringing them to the goal line

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Speaker 1: near halftime in the first half and throwing a bad

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Speaker 1: backwards pass that can't be handled and that ends the

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Speaker 1: half right as they're about to score, and then another

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Speaker 1: fumble in the second half. It's just one of those.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was right away in the second half,

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Speaker 1: and it's surrounded by Virginia getting it done right before

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Speaker 1: the end of half and the end of the first

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Speaker 1: half in the beginning of the start of the second half.

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Speaker 1: That's just like God, this is such a winnable game

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Speaker 1: for North Carolina, and yet, and yet, and it was

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Speaker 1: on the road. They snatched what defeat from the jaws

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Speaker 1: of victory. Yeah, that was an eighty I'm seeing let's say,

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Speaker 1: eighty six percent postgame win expectancy. If you look at

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Speaker 1: the metrics in that game, the computer would figure there's

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Speaker 1: an eighty six percent chance North Carolina wins. They give

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Speaker 1: up forty five in a losing effort, and then that

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Speaker 1: Florida State game, it was just, you know, a nightmare

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Speaker 1: of a first half, and they fixed things in the

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Speaker 1: second half, but they couldn't bring themselves back. So this

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Speaker 1: was the team that was most obviously a double digit

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Speaker 1: win quality team. They weren't on A and m's level,

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Speaker 1: which A and M is right there on the edge

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Speaker 1: of the playoff. And that's fine in the bowl game,

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Speaker 1: But as we move forward and what North Carolina is

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Speaker 1: replacing its best receivers and best running backs. They've recruited well,

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Speaker 1: and you know, ty Chandler comes in from Tennessee, but

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Speaker 1: it's not obvious as to who is immediately holding up

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Speaker 1: their end of the bargain with Sam Howell. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean at the skill position, So the one at the

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Speaker 1: skill positions. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The one caveat I would add here is that despite

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Speaker 2: the fact that there are obvious targets, obvious skill positions

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Speaker 2: that are going to need to be replaced, North Carolina

554
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Speaker 2: is set up pretty well in the trenches. They do

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Speaker 2: bring back a lot in the front seven, with the

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Speaker 2: exception of Chaz Surrat. So I think this is a

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Speaker 2: team that is set up well. They need to find

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Speaker 2: some of those complimentary pieces as you said.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's going to be guys who can

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Speaker 1: hang with Sam Howell and at least a little bit

561
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Speaker 1: more havoc on the defensive side of the ball, especially upfront.

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Speaker 1: That's where they they got pushed around a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and so that can make up for a lot of

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Speaker 1: offensive green issues early on. But you know, I mean

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Speaker 1: they've recruited well again, there are guys who can come

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Speaker 1: into their own this fall. I don't have the schedule

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Speaker 1: in front of me, but this is, without a doubt

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Speaker 1: a team who has shown flashes. And even though I

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Speaker 1: like to call Michael Carter Williams, but Javonte Williams and

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Speaker 1: Michael Carter are gone. It was as complete an offense

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Speaker 1: as we saw, I guess outside of Alabama across college football.

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Speaker 1: So that has me feeling good about the Heels and

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Speaker 1: threatening to become a Saturday Sunday and when you know,

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Speaker 1: ten games every so often or more often than they

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Speaker 1: do now.

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Speaker 2: So what you're describing to me, again as the elder

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Speaker 2: statesman of this show, I don't know if I've said

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Speaker 2: that before, but what you're describing to me is somebody

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Speaker 2: in there, like mid to late twenties where they've got

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Speaker 2: things going in a good direction, totally not fully matured.

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Speaker 1: Yet no, not yet a woman, as Britney Spears like

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Speaker 1: to point out the wise profit. Mm hm.

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Speaker 2: So I'm thinking things around, create a retirement plan, talk

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Speaker 2: to a financial advisor, even things like, you know, don't

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Speaker 2: hold grudges or get serious about dental care dan.

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Speaker 1: Which number thirty two. Your teeth are.

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Speaker 2: Slowly rotting away, thank you, AskMen dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I feel like the message of stability is what we

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Speaker 2: need to try and convey here, because the other fact

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Speaker 2: that you didn't mention is that Sam Howe is going

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Speaker 2: to go pro after this coming season.

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Speaker 1: He's going to go going to be they've not a

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Speaker 1: QB of the future as well, got a QB of

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Speaker 1: the future Drake May. Yeah, however, Sam Howell call you call.

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Speaker 2: Lightning in a bottle with him, and not all of

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Speaker 2: those top blue chip recruits work out, right, So my

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Speaker 2: only point here is let's start thinking long term about

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Speaker 2: how we can build this thing. The offense has been fun,

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Speaker 2: the defense needs to get better. What can we do

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Speaker 2: if for mac Brown, if we're really trying to turn

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Speaker 2: this into a fully formed program something of stability, get

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Speaker 2: serious about dental care feels a little more, a little

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Speaker 2: too morbid. It implies that there is an issue. But

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Speaker 2: maybe we just go like surface level, talk to a

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Speaker 2: financial advisor, like start start getting some stuff together, set

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Speaker 2: up that IRA, make sure that you're make sure that

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Speaker 2: your contributions to the four oh one K are going

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Speaker 2: to the right spot for long term growth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but not too conservative with your investing hull.

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Speaker 2: When you're young, that's when you want to go risky.

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Speaker 2: You just gotta you gotta go pedal the metal when

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Speaker 2: you're younger. But maybe we're starting to talk about all right,

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Speaker 2: we'll throttle it back a little bit. We'll go into

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Speaker 2: into some you know some investments that are less risky

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Speaker 2: that feel.

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Speaker 1: That I was the same page. Anything detail oriented on

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Speaker 1: here make a will. So that's crossing t's and dotting

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Speaker 1: eyes or in Wayne's world too lower case jays. It's

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Speaker 1: the reason they lost those games is not because they

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Speaker 1: were out talented or out scheme. They were just outplayed.

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Speaker 1: And so if they are not fumbling, if they're not

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Speaker 1: muffing punts, if they are not getting beaten by Florida

624
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Speaker 1: State's second or third string quarterback on the ground and

625
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Speaker 1: good but not killer running backs, and they obviously showed

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Speaker 1: that they were able to make the adjustment defensively in

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Speaker 1: the second half. But yeah, it's becoming more detail oriented.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's on your list, but it's

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Speaker 1: you know, it's raking leaves. I got it, I got it,

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Speaker 1: I got it right here. I found it. Number nine.

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Speaker 2: Look at number nine by property, by property, that's isn't

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Speaker 2: that the ultimate?

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Speaker 1: Like I am maturing? Move right there? Sure, when that's

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Speaker 1: paying attention, that's cleaning out your gutters.

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Speaker 2: Buy property number nine. So our advice.

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Speaker 1: Buying and maintaining, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: North Carolina is get out of the rental, get out

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Speaker 2: of the apartment, find something that's going to start working

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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 1: Build equity as a program. That's it. Man.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you may not be able to I'm going to

642
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Speaker 2: read this. You may not be able to afford your

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Speaker 2: dream apartment in your favorite city, but you can probably

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Speaker 2: invest in something that will develop and appreciate nicely over

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Speaker 2: the next few decades. This is what we're talking about here.

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Speaker 2: Not in this market. Time plus you plus you end

647
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Speaker 2: up with the option to rent out your space and

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Speaker 2: sell it down your line for a tidy I like

649
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Speaker 2: these words here, tidy, appreciate nicely, next few decades. We're

650
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: trying to build this thing for North Carolina number nine

651
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: by property. That's my advice. Okay, next team, Next team,

652
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: let's go Oklahoma State. Dan oh would love to Oklahoma State.

653
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State eight and five and twenty nineteen, eight and

654
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: three in twenty twenty. My thing with Oklahoma is that

655
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 2: every team every year feels exactly the same.

656
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: You mean state, because that's very insulting to call them

657
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,919
Speaker 1: Oklahoma Oklahoma State.

658
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: Excuse me, yeah, please forgive me. Yep, every team every

659
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 2: year feels kind of exactly the same.

660
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: Wait they bump up against that ceiling. Yeah, I mean

661
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: every year we are always good, but then they'll have

662
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: a clunker and a half and lose a game that

663
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: they shouldn't and they end up nine and three, eight

664
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: and four.

665
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: The really exciting bit for Oklahoma State that has left

666
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 2: me actually feeling a bit frustrated is that the defense

667
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 2: has improved.

668
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

669
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: It has improved. And whenever you see a defense in

670
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: the Big twelve that plays at a really high level,

671
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: that's a competitive advantage at least it should be. The offense, though,

672
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: has been very inconsistent. And there are various reasons for that. Yeah,

673
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: various for the nightmare, Yeah, various reasons for that. You know,

674
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: like this past year there were you know, the Chewba

675
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 2: Hubbard thing. Is he playing? Is he not playing? Spencer

676
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: Sanders was hurt. Yeah, yeah, like there were there were

677
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: reasons for it. I'm not saying it's all self inflicted.

678
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: It's not.

679
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: But despite a lot of promise, it just feels like

680
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: that offense has not really appreciated, I'll use the word again,

681
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: in the way that we had expected. The defense has

682
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 2: done its part. The offense just feels like just very

683
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: frustratingly inconsistent in a way that we have not necessarily

684
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 2: come to know from a Mike Gundy team, where typically

685
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: we think Gundy, we think offense first. So I know

686
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 2: you went back. I know you looked at Oklahoma State.

687
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: What did you see, man? They handed the Texas game

688
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: to the Horns on a silver platter. They moved the

689
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: ball so well, they made so many good decisions on offense,

690
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: and then strip sacks and bad picks and picks run

691
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 2: back to give Texas short fields. There was a ninety

692
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: eight percent win expectancy for Oklahoma State given the metric

693
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: advantage that they had over Texas across the board. But

694
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: Texas made plays on defense, and as we've come to watch,

695
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: Sam Ellinger, somehow, through a mix of occasional deep balls

696
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: but mostly slowly developing drag routs, comes back and helps

697
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: Texas to win this game. Made plays at the end

698
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 2: of the game that Spencer Sanders and he was getting

699
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 2: beat up at the end of this game as he tried.

700
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 2: But it was another instance of just not take I

701
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: don't know if there's an item here like don't shoot

702
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: yourself in the foot. I don't know what that's analogous to.

703
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: But there was something about Oklahoma State who as a

704
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: double digit win ish team and program should do they

705
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 2: weather a quarterback injury and they're able to survive and

706
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: advance and win games with was it? Shane Illingworth was

707
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: the one who ended up taking the majority of Yeah, yeah,

708
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 2: Shane Ellingworth, who was fine but obviously had a very

709
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 2: young ceiling.

710
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: But the offense was able to adapt and win games,

711
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: which is, as far as I'm concerned, a very positive

712
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: thing for the Pokes. But the Spencer Sanders element. I

713
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: know he cut down on the interceptions overall, but the

714
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 1: picks that he threw in this game were so backbreaking

715
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: that I believe in Spencer sanders Is ability and his

716
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: ceiling more than I do for Bonnicks. But at the

717
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 1: same time, there is that seesaw element like you talked about,

718
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 1: Like the offense has an amazing year and the defense

719
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: falls off a cliff. Then the defense steps up in

720
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: a big way, and the offense is dealing with injury

721
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: issues or turnover issues or something like that, and they

722
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 1: fall down. And now we're dealing with an Oklahoma State

723
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: team who is I think still pretty solid at running

724
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: back if I remember correctly, their room is still pretty

725
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: deep even without CHEWBA Hubbard, but no more Dylan Stoner,

726
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: no more Tylan Wallace. So they should be fine at receiver.

727
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 1: They generally seem to and Mike Gundy and his staff

728
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: and they have one of the better I guess he's

729
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: now their coordinator, but the receipt of the longtime receivers

730
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: coach has always done a great job finding and developing talent,

731
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: so that Oklahoma States, I don't see a reason why

732
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: they're making that leap to ten wins, but I could

733
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: see the threat becoming more obvious that they're going nine

734
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 1: and three, or they're going eight and four, but they're

735
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: only losing games because Baylor has gotten so much better,

736
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: or TCU finally found a quarterback and they just go

737
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: back and forth. It's it's easy to see how they

738
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: could win ten games, but my confidence level is sort

739
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: of on that similar. Oklahoma State seesaw that offense defense see,

740
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: so I'm just like, I'm gonna need to see it

741
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: more often before I believe it.

742
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: So this this is a message of not unlike North Carolina,

743
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: trying to get more consistent, trying to get more stable. Sure,

744
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: there is an item. There are a couple items again

745
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: on the as the Elder Statesman on this askman dot

746
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 2: Com list.

747
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: Right, I think, by the way, in terms of getting

748
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: to double digit wins, they win because they won their

749
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: bowl game, so that got them to eight wins, So

750
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: there's seven to three in the regular season. They lose

751
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: to TCU, scoring twenty two points in a not great

752
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 1: offensive performance. Obviously, they're not competitive in the Bedlam game

753
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: in Norman, and they eke out a win against Will

754
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: Howard and Kansas State on the road backup QB. So

755
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: it's not like the seven regular season wins were crazy impressive,

756
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: and it's a strange year for everybody. But I just

757
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: I want to see a twenty seven touchdowns to six

758
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: interception year from Spencer Sanders if that is, I mean,

759
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: that's just it's kind of a hollow stat But if

760
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: we're in that range, that's telling me that he's playing

761
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: with a certain degree of confidence that makes me feel

762
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: good about a ten and two Poke team.

763
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: The answer here is number twenty one. Eat healthier, Yeah,

764
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: eat healthier. We are looking for a cleaner, burning, more

765
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: efficient version of Oklahoma State.

766
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was really close to what I guess t

767
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: boone was trying to do, right, wasn't he trying to

768
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: go wind energy near the end there, I think near

769
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: the end there. Yeah, yeah, I think I think he was.

770
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: Here's what this says. This is great.

771
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 2: Everyone knows you're supposed to live healthier as you get older.

772
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: The days of.

773
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: Smashing cheeseburgers and beer with impunity are over.

774
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, my Gundy has had to change his ways. Yeah,

775
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: not all exactly.

776
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 2: Not only is it easier to put on weight now

777
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: as your metabolism slows, but threats like heart disease and

778
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: diabetes are more real than ever. So start subbing greens

779
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: for grease, and hedge your bets. I almost read hedge

780
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: your farts, which is definitely wrong. Might apply eat healthier.

781
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: We are looking for a cleaner, more refined, more disciplined,

782
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: and more consistent Oklahoma, So it's the late night snacking

783
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 2: for Spencer Sanders. That's so tantalizing. That's just gonna mess

784
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: everything up for the next morning.

785
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: Put down the cheetos, Maybe go carrot sticks. Okay, it's

786
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: all same. I mean you would. I would. I've done

787
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 1: it too. Yeah, next team, what do we talk about?

788
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: We got one team left here, Dan, Okay, talk about

789
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: your Arizona State Sun Devils. Yeah, let's talk about the

790
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: Asu Sun Devils. Also eight and five in twenty nineteen,

791
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: just two and two in twenty twenty. COVID shortened year,

792
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: especially so for the PAC twelve mm hm, okay, I

793
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: am all over the map on Asu. Okay, I really

794
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: like Jaden Daniels.

795
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: I've zoomed in a little bit. I've dropped a pin.

796
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: You've dropped a pin? Yeah, Like, when you when you're

797
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: all over the map, don't you drop a pin on

798
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: like your phone to tell somebody where you are?

799
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 2: You drop the pin or if you're on the computer,

800
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: or drop the pin and like spin the wheel to

801
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: really Yeah, well continue, I am all over the map

802
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: on ASU. I really like Jaden Daniels. I really like

803
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels. I don't know if they figured out a

804
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 2: way to put him in a position to succeed. He's

805
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: had some talent around him that he's been able to utilize,

806
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: but I feel like his interaction, especially with like his

807
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: offensive line, hasn't been great.

808
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: We saw him run.

809
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 2: More this past year, which was which was both exciting

810
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 2: and at the same time kind of like terrifying for

811
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: his life. Necessary yeah yeah, like and on the defensive side.

812
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: I feel like sometimes we get a good version of ASU,

813
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 2: sometimes we don't like I don't know. Maybe the reason

814
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: that we're playing this game for at least four of

815
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: these five teams, Auburn, UNC, Oklahoma State, and now ASU

816
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: is to figure out how they can get more consistent

817
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 2: and how they can play to a higher level. My

818
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: opinion of this team, though, is very much clouded by

819
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 2: the fact that I like their quarterback.

820
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: And I'm just unsure of pretty much everything else. There

821
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: are a number of things to like about ASU. The

822
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: secondary was pretty good last year. The skill talent was

823
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: especially given some of the youth there. I mean a

824
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: good mix of youth and older guys Lvi Bunkley, Shelton,

825
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: Johnny Wilson's a huge dude. Frank Darby made plays. But

826
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: they just had like a nothing season. They lose last

827
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: second to USC. I didn't rewatch that game because I

828
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: didn't want to rewatch anybody's first game because it's never

829
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: fully indicative of anything. But they lose that game up

830
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: late and just completely completely fold, and then they're off

831
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: for a month. ASU is totally snake bitten by the

832
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: health and safety stuff, and so they get back on

833
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: the field early December against U a month later, and

834
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: there were cobwebs. The offensive line was not good and

835
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels, who normally I believe he is not turnover prone.

836
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: He does not throw a lot of picks. He I think,

837
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: had a fumble at the goal line. He lined up

838
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: under center about to score and there's a botched exchange

839
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: and UCLA recovers, and then he throws an exceptionally catchable ball.

840
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: Unfortunately it's true when he overthrows it by about ten

841
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: feet and throws a pick in the end zone. So

842
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: the opportunities were there for ASU to go undefeated this year,

843
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: and big asterisk, that's four and oh for ASU. They

844
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: end up not playing in a bowl game. But they

845
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: could have beaten USC quite easily in La. They could

846
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: have beaten UCLA in Tempe. They blow out Arizona. They

847
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: have a nice win against Oregon State, who wasn't fantastic,

848
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: but Oregon State won the Civil War, that's something. They

849
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: had a sixty five percent win expectancy in that UCLA

850
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: twenty five to eighteen loss, and they just which is

851
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: where they're not moving the ball were too frequent, and

852
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: then the mistakes when they do move the ball, so

853
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 1: they Arizona State is quite close. They need to get

854
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: better and deeper upfront on both sides of the ball.

855
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,479
Speaker 1: Ucla had too many plays pushing around and running over,

856
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: around and through ASU up front on defense and then

857
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: on offense. Jaden Daniels was constantly under fire in this game.

858
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: And the teams we've talked about, Auburn has been pretty

859
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: good upfront on offense and really good on defense. Iowa,

860
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: of course, is kind of an NFL factory on both

861
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: sides of the line of scrimmage, and North Carolina certainly

862
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: showed a lot of improvement on both sides, so they

863
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: got pushed around on defense a bit. That's one of

864
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: those things where and Oklahoma State looked incredible upfront on

865
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: defense for stretches last year. It's one of those things

866
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: where it's hard to see ASU not dropping three games

867
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: when their lines of scrimmage are not necessarily on the

868
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: level of the rest of the field, or they're better opponents.

869
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: So I can see them taking down good teams like

870
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: they did a couple of years ago against Oregon. But

871
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: UCLA was fine, they were interesting, they were intriguing. ASU

872
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: should have beaten UCLA at home last year. It was

873
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: right there for the taking, and I imagine a Herm

874
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: Edwards hyped team. They're basically two minutes from being four

875
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: and zho. That's so it's it is tantalizing to me,

876
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: and I understand the ASU hype, but there their big

877
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: bodies need improvement big bye. So is it a question

878
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: of cleaning up the sloppiness somewhat? Yeah, they didn't tackle

879
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: particularly well against UCLA.

880
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: Number twenty three. Trim all the extra hair?

881
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: Is that?

882
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: Is?

883
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: That? Is that painting with two broad a brush? Well,

884
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: Herm definitely did number sixteen reconnect with old friends. He

885
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: did Tonio Pierce and Marvin Lewis. He did Hugh Jackson

886
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: take care of your parents? Oh?

887
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 2: I mean Herm is an older gentleman, right, I man,

888
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: ASU was tough for me. It is tough for me.

889
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 2: It's certainly not switch up your career path because I

890
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: feel like they're on like a decent enough track. It's

891
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 2: it's really a question of getting better at some key

892
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 2: spots as well as that clean up of the.

893
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: Slot sing Did Hugh Jackson not go? Was it just

894
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis? I think Hugh Jackson was going to go

895
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: to ASU and help out in some way. I don't

896
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: know if he actually did continue.

897
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: So I think I think it's a combination of of

898
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 2: a couple things. For starters, I will stick to trim

899
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 2: the extra hair. You gotta you gotta clean the sloppiness,

900
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 2: I think, oh yeah, especially up front and offense. I

901
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 2: mean UCLA had plays where and this is more of

902
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 2: a credit to UCLA and their front and creativity where.

903
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: I think ASU had obviously their five linemen in and

904
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: they left their running back in to help out, and

905
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 2: so you had a six man wall and UCLA showed

906
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 2: pressure on one side and dropped guys back, and UCLA

907
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 2: was getting to Jade and Daniels untouched with a four

908
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 2: versus six disadvantage, And that's an issue.

909
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: I think they like really impressive overloaded sides and stuff

910
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: like that. But I don't know if it's a Jayden

911
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: Daniels or if it's an offensive line thing, or it's

912
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: a communication between the two. But with the game on

913
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: the line, Jade Daniels was running for his life and

914
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: just couldn't make place.

915
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 2: It's a combination of Truman the extra hair with number

916
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: twenty five making amends, Dan making amends. Here's what it

917
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 2: says for making amends. And I think this is as

918
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: the elder statesman. You know, this is something that I

919
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: think about a lot as I enter the latter stages

920
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: of my life. Mate, no matter how hard we try,

921
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: make amends. No matter how hard we try, we all

922
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 2: commit wrong doings from time to time.

923
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 1: Dan, Okay.

924
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 2: Often it can be easy to gloss over or hope

925
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: that they fade into the ether. But now's a good

926
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: time to make amends for those things you might have

927
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: said or might have done that never settled right. Not

928
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: only will you feel unburdened, asu you might just rescue

929
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: or rekindle an important relationship with winning football.

930
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: I added that last part. I like it. Make amends

931
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: and trim the heir. Number thirty nine. Learn basic survival,

932
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: which you might need if Dimitric Felton and dtr are

933
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: going to and what Britain Brown are going to keep

934
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 1: running all over you.

935
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: Number thirty nine. You're an authority figure now like it

936
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: or not. People are going to look to you for

937
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 2: guidance and reassurance, especially when things go Southn't let them down.

938
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: Know how to handle yourself. This is where it takes

939
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: a turn in various survival situations. I thought this was

940
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: just like medicals.

941
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: Is it also what's surviving at the end of the

942
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: USC game with the lead sh Yeah, surviving a full

943
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: drive without fumbling on the goal line. Okay, okay, it's

944
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: a stretch.

945
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 2: Okay, So instead of making amends, since that's a little

946
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 2: too deep for this show, yeah, why don't we say

947
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 2: we got to do the trimming of the hair thing

948
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 2: because that's too funny to us? And then thirty nine

949
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 2: learn Basic Survival. It also says learn how to build

950
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 2: a fire and a shelter, keep emergency kits in your

951
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: house and car, know how to perform CPR or fashion

952
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 2: a splint. You're the one they're looking to. I don't

953
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: know who is looking to ASU in this strange kind

954
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 2: of comparison, but learning basic survival, as you said, they

955
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: were two minutes from four to.

956
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that fits Dan. I actually liked that one

957
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: a lot. Thank you very much. Those are our five teams, right,

958
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: those are the five teams. Yeah, what across anything that

959
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: you may have read in the literature I sent.

960
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for that advice.

961
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the medical checklist and things to accomplish from

962
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: your forty, and there's a lot of bucket list stuff

963
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: on there. What makes you either physically or emotionally, mentally whatever,

964
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 1: What makes you feel your age the most explicitly? Get

965
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: your first colonoscopy? Yeah, yeah, I think that does make

966
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: a will. Scare me, make a will? I mean a

967
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: will's yeah, I mean you have to. Isn't that a

968
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: little premature at turning forty? No? No, I think you so.

969
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: I think I need to do it more so than

970
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: you do right now, just because I have potential heirs,

971
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: clear potential airs. I don't know what kind of thought

972
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: you've given you You're who's going to be your heir?

973
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: But like next generation air, not solid wife, Kate. Sure,

974
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: but I think it's the responsible thing to do to

975
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: get your affairs in order. It's a crazy violent world.

976
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: Make an archive of your life so far, number thirty five. WHOA,

977
00:52:58,800 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: that's deep.

978
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: Hell, man, Chances are there's a ton of documentation about

979
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: your life scattered throughout the real.

980
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: And online world. That's that's for sure. Let's go through

981
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: each one of these real quick. I just want to

982
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: know where you're at. Okay, there's forty of them, not

983
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: all of you. Yeah, well, just real quick. Let's I

984
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: know you don't have time, You've got We've got five minutes.

985
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: We got five minutes. All right, celebrate? Are you? Are

986
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: you grateful? Do you celebrate? Are you you know? Are

987
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: you prone to celebration? Prone to celebration? Yeah, you will

988
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: need a good life.

989
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: I'm not prone to celebration, but I'm not I'm not

990
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 2: against I I believe we all need to celebrate a

991
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 2: little bit more.

992
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: Well. Will you have a fortieth birthday party with friends

993
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: and family? Will you go all out and let them

994
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: shower you with happiness? It depends on what that means.

995
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 1: If anyone is putting stuff in my yard, I will

996
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: kill them. Okay, we'll murder them in cold blood. Otherwise

997
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. Go on an adventure. I'm okay

998
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: with this. Like, Okay, what what sort of adventure or

999
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: vacation or trip? Sounds like the most out of your

1000
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 1: comfort zone? No? Like, do you want to go climb

1001
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: a mountain? Do you want to take surfing lessons in

1002
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: Costa Rica?

1003
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 2: No? I just let's like, let's go to Europe. That'd

1004
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 2: be fun.

1005
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a big place. TI. We're gonna need to

1006
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: be specific and we need to be specific about activities.

1007
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, do you want to climb the Matterhorn? No?

1008
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: I don't care about climbing. I hate heights. You know me,

1009
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: You've been on a plane. Hate heights. What about some

1010
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 1: sort of water adventure? I like boats. I'm cool with boats.

1011
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: Would you go like, like serious whitewater rafting? No, I

1012
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: don't like boats that much. No, Oh, it's fun ty, No,

1013
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but I'm I think that's a good one

1014
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: for you. White water rafting, yeah, I don't. Maybe you

1015
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: can do it in Pennsylvania. I don't know, but I

1016
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: think you got to get out west. You can do it.

1017
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: In Canada. You can do it, you know, Arizona, Colorado,

1018
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: somewhere like that. You do in California, Oregon. White water

1019
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: rafting's really fun. And if you get thrown, you're wearing

1020
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 1: a life jacket and you sort of bob in the water.

1021
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 2: It's great. I don't know how I feel about this.

1022
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: I need I need to. I can give up. I

1023
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:09,240
Speaker 1: don't really hold grudges that much, but you are crazy

1024
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: competitive about certain things. I do hold some grudges now

1025
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: that you mentioned Yeah, yeah, okay, we talked about make

1026
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: a Will you haven't made your will yet. You've started

1027
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: a family, and that you've gotten married. That's correct, So

1028
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: you have all sorts of relatives that you didn't before

1029
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: you got married, so that technically counts. Sure. I did

1030
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 1: read about genetic material and what happens when you turn forty,

1031
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,959
Speaker 1: so you were sending me this as well. I didn't.

1032
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: We didn't include this as part of Yeah.

1033
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: First colonoscope. We talked about this. You just got to

1034
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: do it. I don't think it's a big deal.

1035
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: This is one of the ones that makes me feel old.

1036
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: You ask it's a big deal. I'm not saying it's

1037
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 2: a big deal, but I know, let me just do it.

1038
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,439
Speaker 2: Create a new tradition, a chili cookof, a scavenger hunt,

1039
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 2: a family roast, a country getaway, anything.

1040
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm okay with new traditions.

1041
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 2: This is this is like doing the college football playoff

1042
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 2: on New Year's Eve, Like they tried it and it

1043
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: didn't work. But I feel like I could do a.

1044
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 1: Better job by property. You've already done that. Stop worrying

1045
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: about what other people think. I've gotten better with this.

1046
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 2: I think just through the course of doing like our

1047
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: show here, I don't I definitely don't care as much

1048
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 2: about like when Michigan people write in and bitch about

1049
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 2: something I said.

1050
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: Eleven. Indulge a sex fantasy. Don't go to your grave

1051
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: with a bunch of unfulfilled fantasies. Instead, find a few

1052
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: that are feasible and discuss them with your partner. So

1053
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: like nothing that'll be super threatening for your shoulder, because

1054
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: you've got a bum shoulder. Sharing a fantasy can bring

1055
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: the two of you even closer together, as long as

1056
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: you're honest and willing to be flexed.

1057
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: This is this is the reason that you started doing

1058
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 2: this list, isn't it You want to.

1059
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: Know it actually isn't. I'm not gonna. I'm it's not

1060
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: fun to hear you like divulge, like you're the inner

1061
00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: workings of your ID. But I think it's important to

1062
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: think about. Okay, what's number twelve. Let's go to twelve.

1063
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: Hold on, we're not done with number eleven. Man. I

1064
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: once had a conversation, not with solid wife Jody. I

1065
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: once had a conversation with somebody, and it didn't go

1066
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: as poorly the conversation, that is, it didn't go as

1067
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: poorly as I thought it could have gone. Like I

1068
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: was asked the question and didn't really have a good answer.

1069
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: Ask the question back and she had an answer. We

1070
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: did not indulge. I was like, huh, okay, that's feasible

1071
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: as number eleven likes to feasible, likes to indicate. Take

1072
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: them a team sport. Number twelve, you do this. You've

1073
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: played in rec leagues? I have, Yeah, I have.

1074
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm in team sport material right now,

1075
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 2: but I'm always open to team sports.

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Speaker 1: This one I love. Number thirteen. Spice up your marriage. Spice.

1077
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: Don't let your marriage stagnate. It can happen naturally and

1078
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: slowly drive you and your partner apart. That's the stagnation. Instead,

1079
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: make the effort to keep going on fun dates flirty texts.

1080
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: So this is not necessarily the fantasy stuff. It's just

1081
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: are you keeping the embers? Are you trying to turn

1082
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: the embers into flames? Right? Would you say you are sure?

1083
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: Always just making sure? Okay, throw some extra emojis at

1084
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: the end of a text, Yeah, you know, just you

1085
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: got to keep them guessing. That's smart, that's smart. Put

1086
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: yourself out there, yourself out there.

1087
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 2: We've put ourselves out there more than enough.

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00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: That's true with number eleven and thirteen and yeah, discover

1089
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: a new passion. Is there something that you are looking

1090
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: that you've always said? I'd love to learn how to

1091
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: be a calligrapher, calligrapher. I'd love to learn hip hop dance.

1092
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: I'd love to learn Italian. Is there something there that

1093
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: you're like? Okay, if I had a swath of time,

1094
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: I would love to pursue. We should talk about this

1095
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: one later. We could talk please, We'll talk about this

1096
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: one later. Yeah, like off mic no in an upcoming show.

1097
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: We'll talk about this. Okay. Reconnect with old friends. I'm

1098
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: very bad at this. I'm pretty good with this one. Oh,

1099
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm so bad. I'm pretty I guess it has to

1100
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: do with grudges to take care of your parents. Parents.

1101
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: You do a good job with that. I do. I

1102
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: just saw mommage today. Actually nice. Update your wardrobe. We

1103
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: talked about that. Mentor someone I'm down to mentor somebody. Okay, yeah,

1104
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: I like doing it. Create a serious retirement plan. I

1105
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: think you investing. Yeah, I'm good. I'm good there, eat healthier.

1106
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: We've talked about embrace the change. Look, your reflexes are

1107
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: going to slow down your memory will start to fade.

1108
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: I've totally embraced this. Yeah, sure, yeah, I'm exercising. I'm

1109
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: not great with change. Trim all that extra hair. We've

1110
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: heard from you on the Manscaped dads. Sure, treat yourself.

1111
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: Is there a luxury item tie that you've an eyeballing for?

1112
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: I'm not good at this one. A midlife crisis, No,

1113
00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't know.

1114
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 2: Midlife crisis not so much. But treat yourself could take

1115
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: on many forms.

1116
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. If I feel like you could treat

1117
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: yourself better, I could. I definitely. You haven't really traveled.

1118
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: I think that's the I think luxury travel is to

1119
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: treat yourself that you need to start travel. Make a

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01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: man twenty five. I'm good.

1121
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: Stop procrastinating. I will never stop procrastinating. That's sort of nicemo.

1122
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: Go back to school. I'm cool. I'm good. I don't

1123
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: need that. Ease up on vices.

1124
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 2: I don't really have that many vices. Take dancing lessons.

1125
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 2: I took dancing lessons, actually be remembered. Before the wedding,

1126
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: we were gonna do We're gonna do a little dance,

1127
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 2: mm hmm. And then we called a hot route at

1128
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: the end because cage dress was way bigger than I.

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01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: Oh. She had warned me.

1130
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, like, it's been fun doing this as

1131
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 2: a couple. I'm glad we did this together. Had this

1132
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 2: moment right, there's no way we can do the dance

1133
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 2: and I was I was like, very dismissive, and she

1134
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 2: took exception to that. I was very dismissive. She's like, listen,

1135
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 2: listen this this dress is not going to support the day.

1136
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 2: And it didn't, so we didn't. We called it off

1137
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 2: at the last second.

1138
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: Wow, could you do it tonight? No? If need be,

1139
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: you don't have the muscle memory still, Nope, totally forgot it.

1140
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: If you're almost bald, you have a wonderful head of hair,

1141
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: shave your head. No, that does not apply to you.

1142
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: Start a skincare routine. I'm good. Do you have a humidifier?

1143
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: Do moisturize? I don't do any of that. Do wear sunscreen?

1144
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: Are you responsible at sunscreen type? Nope? Nope. I'm not

1145
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: really get serious about dental care.

1146
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 2: I'm pretty serious, but I'm a clencher and I'm a blinder,

1147
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 2: and I'm pretty sure right now at time of recording,

1148
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: I have another crack tooth. I did it last year.

1149
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: I think I did it again again this year through

1150
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 2: the pandemic.

1151
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: Are you a water picker, a flosser, electric toothbrush.

1152
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: I've got one of those quipped toothbrushes, which used to

1153
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 2: be a sponsor.

1154
01:01:58,400 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Yeah, they're very good.

1155
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 2: And I floss. Yeah, not as much as I should,

1156
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 2: but I do a good job. It's just I feel

1157
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: like the clenching is really grinding me away.

1158
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: It's fair. Did were you a bracest kid? I was? Yeah,

1159
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: I definitely was. Yeah. Uh, stress relief, stress relief. Nah,

1160
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: I need to get better at that. What so you

1161
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: do take walks?

1162
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 2: I take sleep, though I know I don't. I'm not

1163
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 2: very good at sleep.

1164
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: You gotta start taking breaks too, I think you. I

1165
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: think meditation would serve you pretty well. I try to

1166
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: do them. I might have add I get bored. I

1167
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: try to meditate. Yeah, you'll get you can get past it.

1168
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: You guys got a practice. It's a practice.

1169
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 2: Make an archive of your life. We talked about that's

1170
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 2: very morbid.

1171
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wrote a memoir when I was ten.

1172
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, keep a journal. I'm I've tried. I just I

1173
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 2: can't keep with it.

1174
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: Support a cause you've done, start a business, you've done

1175
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: basic survival you probably haven't done. Haven't done? No, Were

1176
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: you a boy scout, no cub scout, anything like that?

1177
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: Same I was not either. Would you be okay? And

1178
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: like would you be okay in like a Sopranos pine barrens?

1179
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if you watch Sopranos? Would would you

1180
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: be able to handle yourself if your car broke down

1181
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: in a forest and you needed to stay warm and

1182
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: you were like starving or crazy thirsty? Do you think

1183
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: you could make do until morning? Until morning? Yeah? Or

1184
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: maybe twenty four hours?

1185
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 2: Whatever I could last, I could last whatever the maximum

1186
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 2: threshold is for the human body before it starts to

1187
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is I couldn't do anything on my own.

1188
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would make it two hours. I would last

1189
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: as long as my body would allow. Master a handful

1190
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: of recipes. Check you've done it, this is your thing? Yeah? Yeah?

1191
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: Oh man. I have a couple new projects in the

1192
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: works as well, food wise, non pizza. Wow. Okay, all right,

1193
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: that's it. That's all I have, Tai. It's been an

1194
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: honor and a privilege, and honor and a privilege as

1195
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: the elder statesmen to the show. I appreciate this more

1196
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: mature discussion about where we're all headed super than later

1197
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 1: or or we we have people that listen that are

1198
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: older than forty, so if they want to weigh in

1199
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: on how to live your best forties for our dear

1200
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: boy Tie, that would be.

1201
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 2: I would appreciate that. Actually, I would appreciate some advice.

1202
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: Someone take me under their wing mentor me.

1203
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, always ice, always always ice. Outside of always ice. Yeah.

1204
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 2: Soliverble at gmail dot com is the email address. Don't

1205
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: forget to follow along on social media. Don't forget to

1206
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 2: go to newsletter dot soliverbal dot com for more info

1207
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: on how to join up if the newsletter, which again

1208
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 2: I'm sorr, I'm pretty pumped about. We're going to be

1209
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 2: ratcheting up a lot more so, I got Dan. I appreciate,

1210
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 2: I appreciate your candor in this discussion today.

1211
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm just trying. Now. Everybody that listened to

1212
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: the show at one point said, yeah, I wonder what

1213
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: TI's fantasy is. Yeah, I think it's right. And the

1214
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: thing is, you're you. I'm across as so rational and

1215
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: straight laced and dependable that it almost makes what that

1216
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: possibility is that much more electric. I'm Iowa, is what

1217
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: you're saying. I'm Iowa. Yeah, But then what is your

1218
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen holiday ball where they go crazy against USC.

1219
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 2: I think that's where we leave it, Dan, Okay, don't forget.

1220
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 2: We've gotten Yeah. An off topic show with our friend

1221
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 2: Bill Barnwell from ESPN talking nineties sports movies for kids,

1222
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 2: available at for ballers dot com on Friday morning. For

1223
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 2: that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, form

1224
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 2: myself Tie Hildebrand, thank you as always for downloading, for listening,

1225
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 2: for supporting. We will talk to you all soon. In

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Speaker 2: the meantime, stay solid, peace,