1 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: As a guide an hunter, I've spent thousands of days 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics. They'll get you closer 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren. 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: This is cutting the distance. Now picture this. You and 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: your buddies are in the middle of Alaska on a hunt. 7 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: You're thick into bear country. You got an animal down 8 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: the day prior, and we're able to pack half of 9 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: it out. You hung some of the meat in a 10 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: tree nearby, and you went back to camp. Now you're 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: coming back for the last load. What do you do? 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: How do you proceed? What's the way to make sure 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: that you're safe because you are approaching a meat site 14 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: in the thick of bear country. Now, I've had my 15 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: fair share of showdowns with both black bears and brown bears. 16 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: Honestly a few too many stories to recount all in 17 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: one sitting. But bears are concerned for many hunters, and 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: honestly rightfully so. It's because they can kill you, maim you, 19 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: leave your gear and shambles. Now, acting appropriately in bear 20 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: country can honestly save your life. What I want to 21 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: cover is the motives for attacks and understanding bare behavior 22 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: why would a bear attack you in the first place. 23 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: I also want to go over a few of the 24 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: best practices for preventing an encounter in bear country, and 25 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: then I also want to finally get into possible defense 26 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: options just in case you do one day find yourself 27 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: in a really shitty situation. Now, I really want to 28 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: share a story with you first about a bear encounter 29 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: that actually went wrong, because I think this is a 30 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: great example of things to learn. Now, luckily everybody was 31 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: okay in this particular instance, but it was a good 32 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: learning experience if you ever have to have a bear 33 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 1: learning experience in the way that this one panned out. 34 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: One thing, my major takeaway from this entire event was 35 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: we did right and we did ten percent wrong, and 36 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: that ten percent wrong is what literally could have bid 37 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 1: us in the ass on this trip. So to take 38 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: you back, now, many of you maybe have heard this 39 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: story before, but I just have to go through it 40 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: because we're gonna look at it through the lens of 41 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: what to learn and what you should do in bear country. 42 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: We were in a fog knack Island. I was with 43 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: Steve Ronnella and we're filming one of the episodes for 44 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: the Latest Meat Eaters on Netflix. Now. Fog Nack Island 45 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: is off of the coast of Alaska. It's off of 46 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: Kodiak and it's just as some of the largest bears 47 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: brown bears in the world. And you gotta also remember 48 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: the time of year is later in the fall the 49 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: salmon run. The salmon is still running, but it's not 50 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: like it was during the summer. There are not a 51 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: really good barry crop this time of year, and there 52 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: are a lot of large bears. Now. I have hunted 53 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: this area before, and the first time I hunted with 54 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: my brother, we were as bear aware as you could get. 55 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: We were there by ourselves, just the two of us, 56 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: and we saw large bears daily and it generally was 57 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: that these bears were around the herd of elk that 58 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: we were actually hunting. Now, when you're seeing the bears 59 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: all the time, you're really thinking bear safety, bearware, don't 60 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,839 Speaker 1: keep any food near camp. We actually had a bear 61 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: fence around our tent because we are camped pretty close 62 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: to the water and what would be almost a natural 63 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: corridor for movement of the animals. Because of this, the 64 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: hill came down behind our camp that time, we didn't 65 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: have a lot. They wouldn't have a lot of room 66 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: to get around, So you know, we took every precaution 67 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: that we really could. That trip, we did everything right 68 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: right because we did not have a bad encounter. Now, 69 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: on the follow up trip, at the point where we 70 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: had shot an elk, we had seen zero brown bears. 71 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: I told everybody how many bears we were seeing and 72 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: how bad the bears were here, and heard so many 73 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: stories from friends of mine, Yet when you don't see anything, 74 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: it's on the back of your mind. Now we had 75 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: bad weather and couldn't see much anyways, but bears were 76 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: not really a concern for us at this point because 77 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: we've gone so long without seeing him. So as I 78 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: tell this story, just keep thinking of if I was 79 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: doing everything by the book and little things that are 80 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: chipping away to create that ten percent that could really 81 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: go wrong. Now, Steven shot a bull elk, and these 82 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: elk are huge. I mean, you are not going to 83 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: pack one of these out in one trip, and we're 84 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: a long ways from camp. We actually had a mountain 85 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: he had to climb up over the top from camp 86 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: and then dropped down into the valley. Took about half 87 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: a day to get there. So he shot a bull 88 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: just before dark in the evening, so we quarter it out. 89 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: The first thing we gotta do get the get the 90 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: meat away from the carcass. We put it up in 91 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: a tree uphill where we might have a view from 92 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: other areas. When we come back, we get the meat 93 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: hung in a tree up high enough where a bear 94 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: couldn't reach it. We then load up our packs with 95 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: some meat and hike out. We hike out all day 96 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: or all night, essentially get back the next morning, and 97 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: by this point we're fairly tired, so we actually gave 98 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: it a day in between because the meat was fine. 99 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: It's either hanging there or hanging in camp. And then 100 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: we go back the following morning. Takes us half a 101 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: day to get there. We get to where the meat was. 102 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: Before we go up there, we glass into the area. 103 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: We don't see any bears. We go in with our 104 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: bear spray. I had my pistol drawn. We make noise 105 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: on our approach. We search around the tree and there 106 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: did look didn't really look like any bear sign. However, 107 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: there was like this scat like bear crap that somebody 108 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: had stepped in. But we thought I actually thought, um, 109 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: maybe that was something that someone stepped in before I 110 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: got there. So at this point everything the coast is clear. 111 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: We looked in there pretty good. We didn't see anything, 112 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: but it is thick around that area. And then we decide, well, 113 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: it's been a half a day hike. Everybody's hungry before 114 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: we load up our packs and get out here, why 115 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: don't we just make a quick lunch. So we're sitting 116 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: in a semi circle making lunch. There's actually six of 117 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: us and we are sitting in kind of like the 118 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: semi circle. Everybody's getting ready to have lunch. We decided 119 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: to make some coffee at this point. For bear protection, 120 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: I was bow hunting, so I was carrying. I thought, well, 121 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: I'd like to have a firearm just in case I 122 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: needed it. So I had a forty four mag pistol 123 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: on my belt of my pack, as well as bear 124 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: spray on the other side. Now, when I took my 125 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: pack off, what I had been doing was switching my 126 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: pistol to my holster on my belt and then leaving 127 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: the bear spray on the pack. Just that way. I 128 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: always had at least some form of bared trent on 129 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: me at all times. And I think I may have 130 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: even had a way to switch the bear spray quick 131 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,679 Speaker 1: if I wanted as well. So we're everybody, we're deciding 132 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna have some coffee. So I decided, well, I'm 133 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: gonna round up water so put into the kiddie so 134 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: it's not just one guy's water getting boiled for coffee 135 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: for everyone. So I go around the circle collect water 136 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: for the pot. When I go back to my pack 137 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: where my pistol was sitting, I had laid out so 138 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: when I was sitting on my pack, it was just 139 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: right there. Someone was sitting there. So I just thought, okay, 140 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: well I'll just sit down on the bank right here 141 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: across from it. Now at this point, we're b s 142 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: sing as things go. We're you know, joking around, having 143 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: some sandwiches. One of the guys in the back I 144 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: heard something. He heard a bear, a brown bear. When 145 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: I looked up, that bear was already charging. I had 146 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: a pretty good view of him coming in and it 147 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: just felt like his eyes were locked. I could see 148 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: the hair shaking and he was running fast. Now Steve 149 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: was across from me where my pack was. My thought 150 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: was I need to get my pistol, and it wasn't 151 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: even probably two arms length in front of me. But 152 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: by the time I got to my pack, it was 153 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: like the bear was already on me. I did what 154 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: I consider a football juke, move left right, had no 155 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: clue which way to run, turned left. My back was 156 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: now to it. I thought, oh, man, he's gonna grab me. 157 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: And I turned around to look and he was wheeled 158 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: around and going the other way. On my mind, of course, 159 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: I thought my football juke refused to ship out of 160 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: this bear and made him run. Little did I know, 161 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: just as I had done that, Janice, who was sitting 162 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: just to my right, had grabbed his trekking pole and 163 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: hit the bear in the face. Now, when I turned around, 164 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: I now saw somebody with the bear, So I thought 165 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: I had no clue who he grabbed, but somebody in 166 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: the bear were going down the mountain. I grabbed the pistol. 167 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: At this point yelled like who's missing? Count off, and 168 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: everyone starts like one one, what, no, who, who's not here? 169 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: Which it ended up being old dirt myth writing on 170 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: somehow back to back with this bear. Now the bear 171 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: ran off into the brush. We all circled up around 172 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: the tree. The bear kept circling out of range of 173 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: where we could see, and we could hear him huffing 174 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: as he moved around. I think he charged in a 175 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: couple more times, but not to not fully in. You 176 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: could just hear sticks breaking and other things. Then it 177 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: got quiet for a while. We assume that he was 178 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: still there but had moved off. We then went up 179 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: the tree, grabbed the meat, made a formation to where 180 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: we could get into the open and then load up 181 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: our packs and move on. I think when we talk 182 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: about bear attacks, we first have to understand bear behavior. 183 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: You have to know why would a bear attack you 184 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: in the first place. Well, it can be broken down 185 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: into a couple of different categories. I think the first 186 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: category would be a defensive attack. Now, that's the bear 187 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,599 Speaker 1: defending itself or something that it cares about. It especially 188 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: comes into play when it's defending it's young, as far 189 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: as a sow protecting her cubs or food. Now, if 190 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: you get between a bear and its food, that's a 191 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: bad place to be. Another type of defensive attack is 192 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: a surprise when you surprise a bear, just like a 193 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: prizing a mule deer. If you if you come over 194 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: the ridge and you spook a deer out, well, that 195 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: deer is probably gonna run. But a bear has fight 196 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: or flight instincts, so if you surprise it in the 197 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: wrong scenario, it has the option to run or charge, 198 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: and it may charge. Now, the other kind of attack 199 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: would be a predatory one. This one is bad news 200 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: for you. That a predatory attack can be seen is 201 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: where the bear is actually hunting or moving in a 202 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: way that is aggressive as a predator. So it could 203 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: be something like if you're attacked while in your tent, 204 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: that would be a predatory attack. If a bear is 205 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: following you and then attacks, that's a predatory attack. It's 206 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: not surprised, it's not protecting, it's young, it's not you 207 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: messing with something that it's eating. It's seeing you as food. 208 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: And when that happens, that's a very dangerous situation. I 209 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: honestly believe that the attack that happened to us in 210 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: a fog nack was a predatory attack in nature the 211 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: way that the attack happened, because when a predatory attack happens, 212 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: it's more that animals coming in to kill something and 213 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: it's a full charge. I have surprised bears. I have 214 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: been bluff charged by both brown bears and grizzly bears, 215 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: and a lot of those are more defensive in nature, 216 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: but a lot of those stopped before becoming a full charge, 217 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: especially with I've had that happen with a bear and cubs, 218 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: or surprising I actually have surprised a couple of bears 219 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: on kills and they get aggressive, they wolf, they run in, 220 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: but they see you, you see them, and a lot 221 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: of times that that charge stops. Now when it comes 222 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: to a predatory charge or attack, that's a little bit different, 223 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: and those are probably the kind that you have to 224 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: defend yourself from, or just surprising a bear in a 225 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: way that it believes I have to fight, not run away. 226 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: Now that we understand a little bit about the behavior 227 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: of bears, we have to understand what we can do 228 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: to avoid inciting that behavior. And I'm just gonna call that, 229 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: say best practices in bear country. There's certain things you 230 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: can do. Now. While it won't work add percent of 231 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: the time, it will work most of the time because 232 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: you are preventing yourself from getting into a situation where 233 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: that bear is going to have to incite that fight mode. 234 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: A lot of it revolves around let's let's talk about 235 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: the first thing. Food. Now, when you're in bear country, 236 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,479 Speaker 1: bears are so food centric. They're about to go into hibernation, 237 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: especially in the fall. They're just trying to fatten up, 238 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: and they are hungry. Now, that doesn't mean that they're 239 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: hungry and looking to hunt you. That just means that 240 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: you do not want to put yourself in proximity of 241 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: a hungry bear. That means you don't want to provide 242 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: food for that bear. So in your camp, you need 243 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: to make your camp what I call a clean camp. 244 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: What I do is I generally hang. Now this is 245 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: if you can hang something, I like to hang it 246 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: ten ft off the ground and then at least four 247 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: ft away from a tree, because a black if you're 248 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: in black bear country, bears can climb trees and then 249 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: get out to your food. You don't want to feed 250 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: any bear and you don't want to bear to think 251 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: that this place what was your food is now the 252 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: bears food, because as soon as a bear eats food, 253 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: it's his food and he will then defend that food. 254 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: So by providing food for a bear, you actually put 255 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: yourself in a really bad situation. Now, think about when 256 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: you're hunting, you're gonna have game down. Game meat, once 257 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: claimed by a bear becomes that bear's food, and he 258 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: can be very defensive over that food. So you have 259 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: to do things to prevent a bear from getting the 260 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: meat that you've just taken. The first thing that I 261 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: do when I get something down is I will quarter 262 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: it out and move the meat away from the carcass. 263 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: That way, I give the bear the carcass, but I 264 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: move the meat away and hang it in a tree 265 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: or place where he can't get it. That just lessens 266 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: the possibility of that bear trying to claim something that 267 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:57,479 Speaker 1: I'm going back to now. Another thing is avoiding surprise. 268 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: When you know that there is somewhere a bear might 269 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: be likely to be, say the tree that you've hung 270 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: meat or your meat or food that you have at camp, 271 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: you don't want to surprise a bear in that area, 272 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: So you want to make noise. You want to let 273 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: the bear know that a human is coming and give 274 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: it time to take the option of a flight response 275 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: as opposed to a fight response. When you surprise a bear, 276 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: you're going to have a fight response more than you 277 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: would have a flight response. When you're hunting, obviously you're 278 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: gonna be quiet. You don't want to be wearing bear 279 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: bells and talking, so sometimes that's hard. You might just happen, 280 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: And that's where probably most hunters get attacked is by 281 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: surprising a bear in through the course of hunting. That 282 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: may end up triggering a defensive response. But in times 283 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: that you do not need to be quiet, like if 284 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm packing something out, I've got meat on my back, 285 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm encumbered, things are awkward, I've got heavy weight. I'm 286 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: gonna actually talk to whoever I'm with. I'll make noise. 287 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: If I'm by myself, I'm making noise. I'm not walking 288 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: out because I want the bear to know that someone's 289 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: coming and give it time option to run away. And 290 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: then don't beliebor. Don't mess around and hang around in 291 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: areas where bears might be, where you could or have 292 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: a higher percentage of encountering that bear. We did everything 293 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: right up until the point that we hung around that tree. 294 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: Now things could have been worse had we been messing 295 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: with the meat and that bear attacked. It just happened 296 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: to work out in our instance. But I would say 297 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: that the thing we did wrong was we dropped our guard. 298 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: The number one thing you don't want to do in 299 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: bear country is drop your guard. Always be on the ready, 300 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: because the time that you need to defend yourself is 301 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: the time you're at least prepared for it. So if 302 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: you're always prepared, you'll always have a slightly better chance 303 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: of making it out in one piece. Now, let's say 304 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: that the worst possible thing happens. A bear does attack. 305 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: It's charging. There's a few things. I mean, I could 306 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: say you hear these things. Well, if it's a black bear, 307 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: then you fight it off. If it's a brown bearer, 308 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: you play dead. If it's a defensive attack, you don't run. 309 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: If it's a predatory attack, you fight back. I think 310 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: a lot of it is going to boil down to 311 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: the scenario. In the situation, my thought is make noise. 312 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: Let that bear no. You're a human and you are 313 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: going to defend yourself. I think that one of the 314 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: best ways to survive a bear attack is by having 315 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: some form of defense, because you really do feel completely 316 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: helpless when an animal with claws and teeth and muscles 317 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: that is super fast is bearing down on you you 318 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: and you have nothing in your hand. It's the worst 319 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: feeling you can ever feel. I know from experience that 320 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: I never want to have that happen again and feel unprepared. Now, 321 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: whether your defense system works or not, you're gonna feel 322 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: a health of a lot better if you have it 323 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: with you. I think it. There's two main two main 324 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: defenses for bears will go spray and firearms. There are 325 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: limits to both, and there really isn't a perfect situation 326 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: or scenario. I think both sides of the fence will 327 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: argue for which one is better, But I honestly don't 328 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: know the answer to which one is better because it 329 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: might be situational in a lot of in cases. But 330 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to just go over the limits of both. 331 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: So the bear spray is really good because you don't 332 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: have to be as precise with it. Bear spray is 333 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: essentially a large canister of pepper spray that can shoot. 334 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: Maybe it's high pressure. You can spray it on the 335 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: grasses even if you miss, or you can spray a 336 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: barrier the bear will run into that fog of pepper 337 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: spray or get it coming in. You also don't have 338 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: to be as precise like you would with a pistol. 339 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: A pistol you have to make a kill shot on 340 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: a running animal. That can be very difficult, and a 341 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: pistols can be problematic. There's other people around. When ship 342 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: goes down, you gotta make sure you don't shoot the 343 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: guy next to you as he's running away from the 344 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 1: bear the opposite direction. That's a lot to take in 345 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: in a short amount of time. Now, the drawback of 346 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: the bear spray is if the wind is the wrong direction, 347 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: or that bear gets sprayed and continues to attack, you 348 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: have very little way to recover from that. When we 349 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: did get attacked, the bear actually was running with a 350 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: very stiff wind. I don't think that bear spray actually 351 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: would have worked in our scenario, which is a scary thought, 352 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: but in a lot of scenarios it would have worked. 353 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: Now a pistol, on the other hand, you have to 354 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: be a pretty damn good shot. But if the bears 355 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: on top of you or of friends being attacked, I 356 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: feel like that that's a good way to deter the 357 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: threat by eliminating the threat. When you talk about pistols, 358 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: I generally carry a light Smith and West and forty 359 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: four mag but I have also a lot of my 360 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: friends and other people have moved to a semi automatic UM. 361 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: I actually just picked up a sig ten millimeter, which 362 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: it has more rounds, less recoil, and is just more accurate. 363 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: But if you are going to carry a pistol, I 364 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: truly believe that you need to practice with it a lot. 365 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: I carry a pistol. If I'm bow hunting, I actually 366 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 1: carry a pistol and bear spray, but I practice with 367 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: my pistol a lot. Now. If I'm rifle hunting, I 368 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: often just carry the rifle and bear spray, So I 369 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: like to have both options. It just depends on where 370 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: you are. The type of bears you might encounter. If 371 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: you're an area that you probably won't encounter a bear, 372 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: you might be better with just the bear spray and 373 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: the rifle. But whatever you have the number one thing, 374 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: whether it's bear spray, whether it's a pistol, whether a 375 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: rifle is could be very hard to get off your 376 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: shoulder or um. Even a shotgun is a pretty good 377 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: if you aren't if you're just hiking in bear country, 378 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: A shotguns a great defense. Loaded with slugs or yeah, 379 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: I would say just slug. Some people put a warning 380 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: shot in there. I don't know if I would do that. 381 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: If you're gonna go lethal force. Use lethal force. That's 382 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: my that's my theory if it comes down to that. 383 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: But no matter which method you choose, I've learned that 384 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: the best thing is it needs to be on you, 385 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: be ready, and you need to have it at hand 386 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: at all times, because if you actually are attacked, the 387 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: time between getting to your defense and that bear being 388 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: on you is a matter of seconds. You can never 389 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: anticipate how fast it actually happens, and so you have 390 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: to constantly be thinking about that, practice drawing whatever you're 391 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: using while you're out there, and just know that in 392 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: the times you're least expecting it is probably the times 393 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: that it will happen. So be ready. My final takeaway 394 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: with bear country is just give them the respect that 395 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: they deserve. Maybe you haven't had an encounter with them, 396 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: maybe you never will, but as long as you don't, 397 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,239 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. So when you're out there, just 398 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: be cognizant of the threat, constantly try to prevent anything 399 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: from happening, and if something does happen, have whatever defense 400 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna use at hand. Now, I think that that 401 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: was a good overview of entering into bear country, and 402 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: those are just a lot of the things that I 403 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: think about when I'm out there. Now, that's not everything 404 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: that there is to know about hunting amongst bears. However, 405 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: it's a good start if you want a little bit 406 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: more information or are going to be hunting in bear 407 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: country a lot. You really just have to continually think 408 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: about ways to prevent encounters and then also having the 409 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: back of your mind, what do I do if it 410 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: comes down the pipe. There's a lot of great resources 411 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: on the meat eater dot com. As always, love to 412 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: hear your feedback. You can email me at Remy at 413 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: the meat eater dot com. Let me know any comments 414 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 1: or what you like, what you don't like, maybe some 415 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: things you'd like to learn in the future. 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