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Speaker 4: moments of the week. This is where we get to
Speaker 4: share your stories with your fellow listeners. We're going to
Speaker 4: talk about meds. We're going to talk about you know,
Speaker 4: We're going to talk about big sugar beekeeping. We're going
Speaker 4: to talk about those gated communities, those little touch pads
Speaker 4: or swipe screens you see when you Enteroh woosh, secured areas.
Speaker 4: Before we do any of that, we are going to
Speaker 4: read at least one of the many emails we have
Speaker 4: received in response to our earlier episode on hearing voices
Speaker 4: scientifically called paracusia or auditory hallucination.
Speaker 5: Right, and this one comes from Samurai and this sounds
Speaker 5: like God, they Matt Widow in an email. I have
Speaker 5: to say, Samurai here, permission to share is granted. Doesn't
Speaker 5: that sound like you, Matt?
Speaker 3: That's a you thing. Sure, that's a Matt joke.
Speaker 4: Sam's an old friend as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been rating for a long time, sure has,
Speaker 5: and this one is no exception in that he has
Speaker 5: written it. But it's also very personal perspective. As you mentioned, Maim,
Speaker 5: just listen to your hearing Voices episode and it made
Speaker 5: me feel so much better than I am not alone.
Speaker 5: I started quote unquote hearing voices when I was about thirteen.
Speaker 3: At first they were in my own.
Speaker 5: Voice, but over the years the voice has changed to
Speaker 5: various people. I recall a time when it was the
Speaker 5: voice of Michael York, Carl Sagan, Sean Connery, and Topaul
Speaker 5: as Tevia in the movie Fiddler on the Roof, and
Speaker 5: more interestingly, Paulie Shore.
Speaker 3: Wow, how about that one got a little grating after
Speaker 3: a while.
Speaker 5: I remember when I was younger being worried about the voice,
Speaker 5: thinking it was some sign that I was going crazy
Speaker 5: or something. In fact, I never even talked about the
Speaker 5: voice I would hear until I was in my twenties
Speaker 5: and mentioned it to my wife. She did not seem
Speaker 5: to be concerned, but was quick to explain that she
Speaker 5: did not experience such a thing. The voice, and I
Speaker 5: use the singular because it has never been more than
Speaker 5: one at a time. It may have changed, but I
Speaker 5: always knew it was the same person. It never felt
Speaker 5: like separate identities as you might find in cases of
Speaker 5: did really quickly. That was something that I think we
Speaker 5: were all interested in and wanting to make sure that
Speaker 5: we were doing was separate this idea of this type
Speaker 5: of audible hallucination from the idea of multiple personalities.
Speaker 3: They are two very different things.
Speaker 5: It also is inherently a sign of schizophrenia, which is
Speaker 5: also something very different. People can live very normal lives
Speaker 5: and you know, to Samuraiz point, maybe not even mention
Speaker 5: it to anybody, which I would argue maybe probably was tough,
Speaker 5: you know, opening the email saying it felt lonely, so
Speaker 5: then to finally have someone that you trusted enough that
Speaker 5: you could mention it too.
Speaker 3: I'm glad that did happen.
Speaker 5: But I'm sure for a long time, especially worrying in
Speaker 5: the way that you must have or that you said
Speaker 5: you did, Sam, that you were in some way experiencing
Speaker 5: some form of mental illness that could get worse. I'm
Speaker 5: really glad you found that ability to share, and I'm
Speaker 5: glad that we were able to in some small way.
Speaker 3: Help with that.
Speaker 4: DID stands for disassociative identity discords.
Speaker 3: Right, and yep, that's what I was saying.
Speaker 5: We was something that came up in the episode that
Speaker 5: I think, at least me personally, often misconstrued as this
Speaker 5: being part and parcel of the same thing.
Speaker 3: Not the case.
Speaker 5: It never felt like separate identities as you might find
Speaker 5: in cases of DID, with the exception of when I
Speaker 5: was young, I knew it was just my inner voice.
Speaker 5: But getting back to what I was saying, the voice
Speaker 5: was never destructive or harmful. In fact, I would say
Speaker 5: that it was my realism channel. I found that many
Speaker 5: times when I was hard or harsh on myself or
Speaker 5: feeling self deprecating. It was the voice that would be
Speaker 5: the voice of reason, that would tell me things along
Speaker 5: the lines of your human don't do this to yourself,
Speaker 5: get your ass up and try again. I find that
Speaker 5: I can use it to my advantage too, by working
Speaker 5: out problems and letting it help me work out problems
Speaker 5: and provide arguments and counter arguments for things I'm working
Speaker 5: on or in some of my writing. I'm willing to
Speaker 5: bet that more people than are willing to admit have
Speaker 5: that voice in their head, but there is such a
Speaker 5: stigma to admitting it that many people just deny it,
Speaker 5: though now people would probably admit it more than say,
Speaker 5: fifty or one hundred years ago. One other thing, thinking
Speaker 5: about metacognition, The first thing that popped into my mind
Speaker 5: whenever I hear that word metacognition, that is, is the
Speaker 5: Nietzsche quote and if you gaze long enough into an abyss,
Speaker 5: the abyss will gaze back into you. It's one of
Speaker 5: our favorites too, Sam that said, how deep down the
Speaker 5: rabbit hole do you want to go? Alice, There's also
Speaker 5: a part of me that wonders if you talk to
Speaker 5: yourself and if you create that separation in yourself that
Speaker 5: allows you to be able to carry on discussions in
Speaker 5: your head.
Speaker 3: Have you created a new identity within you?
Speaker 5: Or have you, maybe speaking as a computer tech that
Speaker 5: I have been for the power part of thirty years,
Speaker 5: partitioned a portion of your brain. This reminds me of
Speaker 5: the bicameral mind stuff that we discuss. I'd love to
Speaker 5: get into that in a second. Partitioned a portion of
Speaker 5: your brain as a backup of who you are or
Speaker 5: who you want to be. We all know that we
Speaker 5: do not consciously use all of our brain, So is
Speaker 5: there enough room in there for a backup of who
Speaker 5: you are? Do people that have an overly active process
Speaker 5: of talking to themselves recover better after a stroke that
Speaker 5: would affect the cognitive portion of their brain than people
Speaker 5: that do not. These questions answered and more in the
Speaker 5: follow up to your episode winky face emoji.
Speaker 3: Okay, so that last bit was just shower thoughts.
Speaker 5: So I thought and question to you five, have you
Speaker 5: ever had this happen to you? You're so tired and
Speaker 5: fighting not to go to sleep, Say, while sitting at
Speaker 5: your desk and you clearly hear a voice ask you
Speaker 5: a question and you answer aloud, but either you are
Speaker 5: the only one in the room or the people that
Speaker 5: are there with you look at you, like what and
Speaker 5: you realize it was all in your head.
Speaker 3: That's it. Thanks for putting up with me, guys. I
Speaker 3: appreciate the sounding board.
Speaker 2: Hmmm. I don't think I've ever had anything like that
Speaker 2: occur where I'm the only one in a room that
Speaker 2: heard a voice like audibly say something and then I
Speaker 2: react to it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's what you were talking about in the episode, Like,
Speaker 5: I you know, it's very similar to thinking about what
Speaker 5: it would feel like to not be able to see
Speaker 5: you a thing a color, or or for people that
Speaker 5: can't see color to wonder what it would be like
Speaker 5: to see it. I can't imagine what this phenomena would
Speaker 5: feel like, you know, in talking about the bi camera
Speaker 5: mind stuff and the idea of an internal monologue, I
Speaker 5: think I harped on it a few times in the
Speaker 5: episode that like, I don't know if this is what
Speaker 5: I'm experiencing, Like I don't hear a thing exactly. I'm
Speaker 5: imagining kind of what sound is, and I think that
Speaker 5: might be the same, but it also might not. Like
Speaker 5: to me, it sounds like these folks that really experience this,
Speaker 5: truly are hearing a sound inside their head. And I
Speaker 5: can't fully wrap my head around if I would know
Speaker 5: the difference. But I think I probably would, so I
Speaker 5: think I probably haven't experienced it in this way.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, guys. I've been living alone for
Speaker 2: a little bit now, and I talk to myself a
Speaker 2: whole bunch. I sing to myself, and sometimes it's in
Speaker 2: Sean Connery's voice. I'm not kidding, Samurai. Quite often I'm
Speaker 2: walking around and just doing Sean looking at beautiful shading words.
Speaker 1: Also, you have a probably have a better singing voice
Speaker 1: than Sean Connery.
Speaker 2: Oh I don't know about that. I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: really have one of.
Speaker 3: Those notoriously bad singer.
Speaker 4: He's not notoriously amazing singer.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I thought, I'm I thought, got it.
Speaker 4: I just I've never really I compliment people.
Speaker 2: It is true, Ben, I often walk around house singing
Speaker 2: directly to you. Whether you know it or not. It's
Speaker 2: it's straight for your computer. Uh no, I'm just shoking.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I I identify with that thing where
Speaker 2: maybe well, because see I often like almost play mind tricks,
Speaker 2: like I'm talking to my dogs right, or I will
Speaker 2: talk to my dogs, but I'll carry on a conversation
Speaker 2: that I would be having with another person, pretending that
Speaker 2: my dogs are responding to me, just as a way
Speaker 2: to get through the day. I don't know, is that
Speaker 2: Is that really strange? Guys?
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Neurologists out there, what do you think?
Speaker 3: Okay, No, I think people talk to themselves all the time.
Speaker 5: I talk out loud, I'll say, I'll exclaim things when
Speaker 5: no one's looking. I don't see how it's any different
Speaker 5: than like laughing at a joke when no one's around.
Speaker 5: It's something you're you know, You're you're having a dialogue
Speaker 5: with your own personality or your own senses, you know.
Speaker 3: I think that's.
Speaker 5: Interesting that you bring that up as an analog or
Speaker 5: at least the closest thing that you're experiencing to hearing voices.
Speaker 3: It is the idea of talking to yourself.
Speaker 5: In you are hearing you hearing your own, your own voice,
Speaker 5: and most of the time, you know, these folks, they
Speaker 5: do seem to differentiate between the personality of that voice
Speaker 5: and their own personality, which I think is interesting. Ben,
Speaker 5: Is that something that you've seen as well, like people
Speaker 5: that talk about having this condition or maybe that's not
Speaker 5: even the right word that this is.
Speaker 3: It feels like.
Speaker 5: An external personality that's influencing them, whether positive or negative.
Speaker 3: We've heard both sides.
Speaker 4: Yeah, going back to your correspondence here, Sam, and thank
Speaker 4: you as always for writing in the what I said
Speaker 4: on the earlier episode about hearing voices is true. One
Speaker 4: of the one of the indicators is, as you pointed out,
Speaker 4: the idea of identification with the other other communicate as
Speaker 4: external or internal. Most people may feel they are just
Speaker 4: hearing an in thought. Right, going back to the by
Speaker 4: camera mind stuff. One big flag if you struggle with
Speaker 4: this is whether or not the audio seems to be
Speaker 4: coming from one ear quote unquote or in stereo. And
Speaker 4: I just want to thank Tam real quick. I want
Speaker 4: to thank you for mentioning some of the important things
Speaker 4: that we got to in the episode. For anyone who
Speaker 4: does experience this actively, this phenomenon of paracusia or auditory
Speaker 4: verbal hallucinations, they are not necessarily always deleterious. They are
Speaker 4: not necessarily always bad for you. And on that note,
Speaker 4: I'd also like to thank everybody who reached out after
Speaker 4: hearing that episode, even if I only heard you in
Speaker 4: my head, thanks so much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know, the more I think we all
Speaker 5: look into this, the more we you know, not only
Speaker 5: are hearing amazing stories from you, but there are quite
Speaker 5: a few really good TED talks out there from folks
Speaker 5: that have experienced this phenomenon, some really good kind of
Speaker 5: many documentaries that we mentioned on the episode.
Speaker 3: But it really does make me want.
Speaker 5: To find out more because I think oftentimes we are
Speaker 5: imprisoned in our own perspectives, and it's historically the case
Speaker 5: that people who experience things differently are othered and often
Speaker 5: persecuted and I think sometimes dismiss true or dismissed yeah,
Speaker 5: which is probably more the case today, but there's probably
Speaker 5: examples of the others as well. So I think it's just,
Speaker 5: you know, an important thing to realize that this is
Speaker 5: something that occurs, It is real for people who experience it,
Speaker 5: and it is not something that should be dismissed or
Speaker 5: become cause or maybe a justification for treating people.
Speaker 3: In a negative way. To me, that's I think always
Speaker 3: a lesson to learn about things like this when you.
Speaker 5: Think about just because I don't hear it doesn't mean
Speaker 5: it's not real, and it doesn't mean that you aren't
Speaker 5: struggling with it or to Sam's point, benefiting from it.
Speaker 3: I love that side of it. You know, you think
Speaker 3: about the.
Speaker 5: Cartoon devil and the cartoon angel, and I think we mentioned,
Speaker 5: you know, on the episode, the idea of a conscience.
Speaker 5: You know, I'll always let your conscience be your guide.
Speaker 5: And that can be a voice, and it can be
Speaker 5: a voice in quote fingers, or it can be an
Speaker 5: actual voice. And I think that's incredible. And you know,
Speaker 5: obviously it all depends on set and setting. I think
Speaker 5: that came up in the episode as well, and also
Speaker 5: just you know, what's going on in a person's life.
Speaker 5: These voices can compete. They can be you know, the
Speaker 5: good voice, the bad voice. There can be many. It's
Speaker 5: a very interesting phenomenon and I look forward to learning
Speaker 5: more about it. So thank you Sam for sharing your
Speaker 5: story and sharing, you know, your perspective and being comfortable
Speaker 5: enough with us to share it.
Speaker 3: We appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 5: Let's take a quick break, hear a word from our sponsor,
Speaker 5: and then come back with another mesa sage from you.
Speaker 2: All Right, we've returned, and we are going to jump
Speaker 2: to the phone lines. We got a message from someone Anonymous.
Speaker 6: Ad a longtime listener, first time caller, was calling to
Speaker 6: get you guys to talk about med bets. My mother
Speaker 6: has gone fully down the kind of Pastela non process
Speaker 6: and she's buying crystals and buying all sorts of crazy
Speaker 6: shit in this search of eternal life. And I think
Speaker 6: that this is one of the biggest scams going on
Speaker 6: within the QAnon movement, and I would love to see
Speaker 6: you guys kind of take the and bring it to task.
Speaker 6: My understanding is is that there's already a medbed hotels.
Speaker 7: In England, I believe, and it just is a grift
Speaker 7: as far as I can tell, And even my mother
Speaker 7: has had some falling outs because of people who were
Speaker 7: on their deathbeds who had invested in this technology that
Speaker 7: was going to cure them.
Speaker 6: And I think that it's something.
Speaker 7: You need to really address and kind of come to
Speaker 7: understand so that these flim flan men don't keep taking
Speaker 7: these boomers for a ride. Well, love to hear back
Speaker 7: from you. I'd love to see you guys produce the content.
Speaker 7: Feel free to give me a callback if you need to.
Speaker 2: Right, all right, Anonymous anonymous we with stories about med beds. Now, Guys,
Speaker 2: before I jump into anything, have you ever heard of medbeds?
Speaker 2: I don't think we've talked about them.
Speaker 4: I have never heard of this until hearing this voicemail.
Speaker 2: Now, oh boys, I was in the same position just
Speaker 2: like a few minutes before we started recording here.
Speaker 4: It's pretty interesting that what would you say to anybody
Speaker 4: who has never heard of this?
Speaker 2: Well, first, I would say google it, just like you
Speaker 2: guys did, because it's it's interesting what you'll find. I'm
Speaker 2: going to kind of give you my journey, I guess
Speaker 2: of discovering it. The first thing I did is I
Speaker 2: found a Fox fifty nine post that is literally a
Speaker 2: copy and paste from an EI in press wire newsmatics
Speaker 2: like a pr thing, right, they just got just got
Speaker 2: copied and pasted onto a local Fox news channel in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2: And this is what the title is, Energy Spheres bringing
Speaker 2: plasma energy based medbed technology to homes in the United
Speaker 2: States and Canada. I'm gonna read just directly from some
Speaker 2: of this because the language is kind of gonna literally
Speaker 2: speak to what is happening here?
Speaker 4: And is it a little tasty? Do you promise in
Speaker 4: the end to tell us what pastelanon is. I have
Speaker 4: no idea what that is, but okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Well I also kind of got it in a way
Speaker 2: like in my.
Speaker 5: Crystals, like hippie kind of like snake oil stuff.
Speaker 4: That's sort of what I yeah, but also antisabetic so well.
Speaker 2: I but see, I don't know if it is or not.
Speaker 2: I but that's the thing that's gay. I guess tricker
Speaker 2: with qn on.
Speaker 4: We gotta get to medbed first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do, we do, Okay, so I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: read it quote. Medbeds and medbed type technology are a
Speaker 2: new term and subject that is reaching the general public.
Speaker 2: Although the term medbed can have many meanings, many are
Speaker 2: hearing this term in reference to energy and frequency based technology.
Speaker 2: There are many rumors that the government has med bed
Speaker 2: pods that will eliminate disease, injuries and other ailments, and
Speaker 2: although none of that can be confirmed or denied, there
Speaker 2: are many new frequency based technologies making their way into
Speaker 2: the public. One of these technologies is called plasma energy spheres,
Speaker 2: which uses plasma energy and thousands of frequency codes frequencies
Speaker 2: codes to help rejuvenate the body and cells.
Speaker 5: And they're about thirty grand a piece roughly, and they
Speaker 5: look kind of like a cryopod, you know, from like
Speaker 5: a sci fi movie.
Speaker 4: To fifty thousand crystals, right, because you always want a
Speaker 4: second currency.
Speaker 2: Well, let me just tell you. The most affordable of
Speaker 2: these med beds that I've found run about thirty five
Speaker 2: hundred bucks. Okay, undred thirty five hundred.
Speaker 4: Thirty five hundred, What do they want? I'm sure you
Speaker 4: could get them down to thirty two.
Speaker 3: That seems like a bargain.
Speaker 2: Those are the ones. I think that these are the
Speaker 2: ones that have these plasma spheres. Now, I wanted to
Speaker 2: find out, Okay, what are plasma spheres? What do they
Speaker 2: look like when they're working as a technology incorporated into
Speaker 2: a bed? Well, boys, I found a little thing here
Speaker 2: on usamdbed dot com. I've linked to it in our
Speaker 2: doc I believe it's the third one. And this is
Speaker 2: the USA medbed Store where you can go and learn
Speaker 2: about different types of medbds, and I believe you can
Speaker 2: make purchases. I didn't actually attempt to make any purchases,
Speaker 2: but in here it teaches you all about what this
Speaker 2: means plasma energy spheres and plasma wave generators and how
Speaker 2: they function to quote, heal the body of all kinds
Speaker 2: of different things, right, which we have to state right here. Okay,
Speaker 2: there is no proven technology. There are no clinical tests
Speaker 2: things going on that can show that this specific technology,
Speaker 2: these specific energies can actually heal bodies of anything. Okay,
Speaker 2: that right now is the truth. That is what's going on.
Speaker 2: If someone tells you otherwise, they're probably trying to get
Speaker 2: one over on you. This might have some kind of
Speaker 2: effect on you, but it's not going to heal you.
Speaker 2: And do you know why?
Speaker 4: Why is that?
Speaker 2: These plasmaspheres Guys, you may have seen these in a
Speaker 2: store at the mall before.
Speaker 4: Oh sharper image spencer gifts.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 5: You've seen your local science center. It's the thing that
Speaker 5: you put your hand on and makes your hair stand up. Right, Yes,
Speaker 5: that's different, well sort of. There's the one where you
Speaker 5: put your hand on the orb and then the little
Speaker 5: tinglings come and touch your fingies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what if you could lay on it? You know
Speaker 4: the question every middle schooler has had, United States.
Speaker 2: But that's not at all what's happening here. There are
Speaker 2: two of them that get placed on either side of
Speaker 2: the bed, vertical or horizontal sites well, it would be
Speaker 2: horizontal sides, okay, left hand and right hand sides of
Speaker 2: the bed, and then the human being or human beings
Speaker 2: lay down in the center of those and then somehow
Speaker 2: frequencies from those two things pass through you and it
Speaker 2: helps with stuff, at least according to that USA medbed
Speaker 2: dot com website, it says generates a plasma energy field
Speaker 2: in small rooms. The plasma spheres are portable devices, so
Speaker 2: there's no connection to power or a power supply pollution. Okay.
Speaker 2: They can also be used in nature away from electromagnetic pollution.
Speaker 2: You can kind of see what's happening here, right stuff
Speaker 2: I talked about.
Speaker 4: You're a little bit of a vibe with us one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely a vibe going on. There are diagrams
Speaker 2: on that site that show you what are those? Is
Speaker 2: it Karellian photography the type of photography that auras. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's images that look like that on here. It's just
Speaker 2: I don't know, it seems on the surface, I'm already
Speaker 2: agreeing with our anonymous color like this feels off to me.
Speaker 5: Did you happen to catch the BBC article The Truth
Speaker 5: about med Beds and Miracle Cure that doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, that is really good.
Speaker 4: Takes and quotes in that one from shout out to
Speaker 4: journalist Mike Wendling.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, from just just a couple of years ago.
Speaker 5: And there's one part in particular that features a doctor
Speaker 5: who kind of spends a lot of time either debunking
Speaker 5: kind of junk medic medical claims and things like that,
Speaker 5: and he had this to say, it's really hard to
Speaker 5: define something that does not exist. The trial referring to,
Speaker 5: you know, some claim of a clinical trial that the
Speaker 5: companies that make these are referring to.
Speaker 3: The trial is nothing.
Speaker 5: It tells you to lay on your bed and think
Speaker 5: really hard about the med bed. In their defense, they
Speaker 5: do list on their website and the very fine print
Speaker 5: down to the bottom of the medbed is not meant
Speaker 5: to treat or diagnose illnesses, and then goes on to
Speaker 5: talk about how the FDA is partly to blame because
Speaker 5: all you have to do if you have a device
Speaker 5: like this that is completely useless is register it because
Speaker 5: it's a device, but it doesn't actually do anything. Therefore,
Speaker 5: it doesn't require FDA testing or certification, so you can
Speaker 5: make the claim that it's FDA registered, but that's absolutely
Speaker 5: meaningless m oh.
Speaker 2: In that same article, it states there were some versions
Speaker 2: of these beds. Again, not a single med bed is
Speaker 2: created equal, surely, right, because they're all different manufacturers. They've
Speaker 2: all got different components that you're buying, different features, many
Speaker 2: of them technological, like an iPad of sorts that then
Speaker 2: connects up to other technologies that are a part of
Speaker 2: the bed or to be used with the bed, and
Speaker 2: you can kind of upgrade to your heart's content until
Speaker 2: you're spending twenty literally twenty thousand dollars US on one
Speaker 2: of these things. So, guys, I want to find out more.
Speaker 2: And I wondered if there's a place that I could
Speaker 2: use a MED bed. Could I go to like a
Speaker 2: spa and experience a MED bed? So I found a
Speaker 2: place in San Clemente, California, is called O two Wellness,
Speaker 2: and they've got on their website listed somewhere under services
Speaker 2: a page titled the med bed and it says experience
Speaker 2: of the med bed. Our medbed combines p EMF infrared
Speaker 2: heat and brainwave Entrainment and trainment E n t r
Speaker 2: AI n M E MT. To promote that I.
Speaker 5: Don't know it exists in English it's got a cunk
Speaker 5: on Earth kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Way.
Speaker 4: The way they're applying it, yeah, ask uh uh sort
Speaker 4: of begs further explanation. Is well, I'm being very diplomatic here.
Speaker 2: Well, and this is the part that flummekes me a
Speaker 2: little bit. It says, uh, it uses those to promote
Speaker 2: healing and balance in the mind and body. So healing
Speaker 2: and balance. Whether you are perfectly healthy or you want
Speaker 2: to treat a specific condition or symptom, the medbed can help.
Speaker 4: If people were all perfectly healthy, none of them would
Speaker 4: have died, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is this is the part that irks me,
Speaker 2: and orks I think it irks everybody. It's said, well,
Speaker 2: except for people who believe in it, And there are
Speaker 2: a lot of people who believe this, like wholeheartedly, that
Speaker 2: this medbed, this these technologies are somehow going to help.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to just make anybody that would
Speaker 2: believe that feel bad. It's just we know that this
Speaker 2: there's no way that this medbed can treat things like
Speaker 2: or help with acute or chronic pain and injuries, allergies,
Speaker 2: autoimmune diseases, neuropathy, cataracts, Crohn's disease, diabetes, depression, lack of energy, heartburn,
Speaker 2: herniated disks, immune support, ibs, kidney stones, menopause, migraines, obesity,
Speaker 2: It goes on and on and on and on and on.
Speaker 4: The only one I heard that is provable there is
Speaker 4: is lack of energy. Right, if you get a lay
Speaker 4: down at any point.
Speaker 2: That's gonna help.
Speaker 4: That's gonna help a little. But the rest of it,
Speaker 4: to your nepe Matt and to you ad On, it
Speaker 4: seems a bit broad in application. Whether it stands for
Speaker 4: meditation bed or what is it medical bed, then it
Speaker 4: seems like they're promising a lot, and to Nole's point,
Speaker 4: it seems like they're not being required to prove efficacy.
Speaker 4: So no, it is a little can surname.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: It's interesting too.
Speaker 5: In that article that we were talking about, there's a
Speaker 5: company that keeps coming up called Tesla.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no relation to the relation.
Speaker 3: Right, And that's like a branding nightmare. Tesla Biohealing.
Speaker 5: I guess that's where Tesla is, Tesla Motors is Tesla
Speaker 5: bio Healing. It is a famous individual's last name. I
Speaker 5: guess it's no one can own Tesla out right, maybe,
Speaker 5: but I don't know it's the subtitle matters. But anyway,
Speaker 5: on the top of the article, there's a picture of
Speaker 5: like what looks like a pay by the you know our.
Speaker 3: Type fleabed fleabag motel.
Speaker 5: Somewhere in Mississippi or on the Mississippi River is what
Speaker 5: it says, that has been converted into a Tesla medbed center.
Speaker 3: And it is.
Speaker 5: It is scuzzy looking, it's rough and apparently this company
Speaker 5: sells their med beds for twenty grand, but you can
Speaker 5: get time with one for just one hundred and sixty bucks.
Speaker 2: Well see, but now that's crazy because when I talked
Speaker 2: to the actually lovely person at O two, and I
Speaker 2: don't want to cast dispersions on that company at all,
Speaker 2: because they offer all kinds of things. And again they're
Speaker 2: offering a service that people are willing to pay for.
Speaker 2: So whatever, it just seems a little whatever. They were
Speaker 2: very kind and according to the person I spoke to,
Speaker 2: it is forty dollars for ten minutes on a med bed, okay.
Speaker 2: And so when your mind starts to wrap itself around that,
Speaker 2: you think, okay, well it's only forty dollars. That's a
Speaker 2: lot for you know, some people. But you do get
Speaker 2: ten minutes, but then you realize that's only ten minutes.
Speaker 3: How much tumor size reduction?
Speaker 4: Are we talking six of an hour?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. How long do
Speaker 2: you need to be in there? And the person I
Speaker 2: spoke to just said, well, people come in a lot.
Speaker 4: Also, again, if there is not this guaranteed result. In
Speaker 4: none of these cases anonymous have their been guaranteed results.
Speaker 4: There have been claimed testimonials which are very much not
Speaker 4: the same thing. Sort of how like before Google became alphabet,
Speaker 4: they said don't be evil, which is not the same
Speaker 4: thing as saying be good or do well.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: Also, the idea it only really look it reminds me
Speaker 4: a bit of the ivy things that sprung up where
Speaker 4: they say we're going to just put some nutrients straight
Speaker 4: into your veins, and there is efficacy, there is advantage
Speaker 4: to that, but perhaps not all of the advantages advertised
Speaker 4: right by the people who want to hook you up
Speaker 4: to the thing. You could say that, you could say
Speaker 4: that overall, yes, people are stressed. Overall, yes, people do
Speaker 4: need time to go horizontal and relax for a little bit.
Speaker 4: You know, why not? What what differentiates a medbed from a
Speaker 4: sense dev tank. You could put the same technology in both.
Speaker 4: And I like multifunctional things.
Speaker 3: That's a good point, ben.
Speaker 5: And also like, I don't think anyone's claiming that a
Speaker 5: sensory deprivation tank is going.
Speaker 3: To cure you of all of your you know, ailments.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 5: It is more marketed, is sort of a new aid
Speaker 5: sort of meditative, you know, introspective kind of thing in
Speaker 5: my understanding at.
Speaker 2: Least, Yeah, yeah, I think if you meditate like that,
Speaker 2: it's going to be good for you. But if you
Speaker 2: and well here's the other thing, if you placebo think
Speaker 2: that pe m f right, that whole plasma electromagnetic field
Speaker 2: therapy thing sure is going to somehow have an effect
Speaker 2: on you. Maybe it will.
Speaker 7: Maybe.
Speaker 2: If you go to I MRS Prime pr ime dot com,
Speaker 2: you can see the specific type of med bed which
Speaker 2: is really just a computer system that you apply on
Speaker 2: a bed that is the one that is at that
Speaker 2: two wellness place, and you can again, you can read
Speaker 2: all about it until you get to the very bottom.
Speaker 2: And just like that BBC article says noluh, it says
Speaker 2: the IMRS Prime Wellness system is not licensed or certified
Speaker 2: as a medical device. The system is not intended to diagnose, cure, treat, mitigate,
Speaker 2: or prevent any particular disease or symptom of a disease.
Speaker 4: And that same warning applies to this show.
Speaker 5: Yes, what was that catch all term the Anon used?
Speaker 5: Pistachio gonon, what was it pastell and pstell. I still
Speaker 5: want to know more about that.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's not as deep redque.
Speaker 2: The whole reason people are super excited about not the
Speaker 2: whole reason. The reason this is getting traction. We didn't
Speaker 2: even talk about that. Well, it's not because it's not
Speaker 2: directly because of q Andon, but there are so many
Speaker 2: rumors that are being spread, just spread everywhere, especially weirdly enough,
Speaker 2: as our anonymous caller is saying, in slightly older generations,
Speaker 2: like just be beyond ours that speak of elysium level technology,
Speaker 2: of these special beds that cure anything and everything. No
Speaker 2: matter how dead you are or how hurt you are,
Speaker 2: this thing's gonna get you and you'll be fine, just
Speaker 2: come right back.
Speaker 4: And it's the extreme like the QAnon tie, right, is
Speaker 4: that this elysium level I love that, Matt. This elysium
Speaker 4: level technology is used to keep Jay Fitzgerald pop pop
Speaker 4: Kennedy alive until such a time as his revelatory return.
Speaker 2: Well, and it's tied that too, but now it's gone
Speaker 2: beyond that. Now it is just oh, these oh yeah,
Speaker 2: you heard about the med the medbeds, right that they've
Speaker 2: got this freaking med beds, the Illuminatis guy or you know,
Speaker 2: and it just becomes something people will talk about and
Speaker 2: just mention, and it's just kind of accepted as it continues.
Speaker 5: I just want an add to the whole Uh. I
Speaker 5: think you brushed over this for maybe I didn't quite
Speaker 5: get an answer. But pastellanon is just specifically kind of
Speaker 5: like an aesthetic quality of spreading some of these QAnon
Speaker 5: type memes, Like remember the Wayfair scandal, where there was
Speaker 5: this whole rumor that like Wayfair, the furniture company, it
Speaker 5: was doing sex trafficking and.
Speaker 3: Stuff like that.
Speaker 5: But a lot of the pastellanon thing comes from a
Speaker 5: feminine aesthetic that's that's associated with spreading these types of messages.
Speaker 5: So it'll be like nice, soft, warm colors and like
Speaker 5: wavy text sort of like eat prey love kind of signage,
Speaker 5: but spreading you know, Q kind of conspiracy stuff.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 3: I did not I did not know that that's really fascinating.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're looking to that more.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: Well, hey, that's all we know for now. Anon. We
Speaker 2: hope your mom's okay. We hope anyone out there who
Speaker 2: is using one of these medbeds who has experienced with
Speaker 2: it will write to us and tell us your experience
Speaker 2: and just let us know how you feel about it.
Speaker 2: That would be great. We'll be right back with more
Speaker 2: messages from you.
Speaker 4: And I'd like to start this segment by thinking, again,
Speaker 4: everybody who wrote in this is fascinating stuff. I want
Speaker 4: to be fully clear at the end of this listener
Speaker 4: mail segment, I may do something that is considered a
Speaker 4: bit of an advertisement, perhaps problematic. What are we talking about?
Speaker 4: You'll see in a moment. Our first letter comes from
Speaker 4: glass Gate. Glassgate first off says you're welcome to read
Speaker 4: what I've written. If you wish, please refer to me
Speaker 4: as Class Skate, and then notes they would love for
Speaker 4: us to cover and for us to dive deep into
Speaker 4: homeowner associations to do an episode on Hoa's. We've talked
Speaker 4: about it a bit. I think we agree it's a
Speaker 4: I think we agreed to an episode in the future
Speaker 4: and Glassgate is writing to us about operational security. You know,
Speaker 4: how you go to a community that has some sort
Speaker 4: of gated thing like a touchpad or a card swipe. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and glass Skate says, I wouldn't say these gates are
Speaker 4: completely ineffective, but I do think they mostly serve as
Speaker 4: a reminder to help honest people stay honest and to
Speaker 4: give residents a false sense of security. At one of
Speaker 4: my prior jobs, I would work with a gatecode system
Speaker 4: and have become familiar with a handful of them. Like
Speaker 4: many other systems, a lot of gatecode systems have a
Speaker 4: default gate code. A large number of communities never changed
Speaker 4: nor disable that default code. So if someone happens to
Speaker 4: be familiar with a list of these gate codes, they
Speaker 4: could sit and try multiple default codes to see if
Speaker 4: they could get it. Now, let's pause there first reactions.
Speaker 4: Have you guys ever done.
Speaker 2: This found a default gate code?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, but sounds good.
Speaker 3: I just try six sixty six on all of them,
Speaker 3: just to see.
Speaker 4: I bet that, you know what? I bet that works
Speaker 4: in Los Angeles and Las Vegas one hundred or yeah
Speaker 4: one like that? Yeah, I do the sequential number. Uh No,
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't actually do this, I'm.
Speaker 5: I mean, it would be kind of creepy, right, isn't
Speaker 5: that like going and testing people's gates.
Speaker 4: Well, if it's if it's people's gates, that's different from
Speaker 4: an institution, that fair intriguing.
Speaker 3: It is the people's gate who live behind said gate.
Speaker 4: Right Again, if it's an institution, it's far less ethically fraught,
Speaker 4: and Glassgate continues and says. In addition, a lot of
Speaker 4: gate systems have a code that's designated for emergency services.
Speaker 4: That means that anytime anyone in emergency, police, fire, or
Speaker 4: medical services who is given one of these codes for
Speaker 4: access basically has that code going forward. Modern systems make
Speaker 4: it easier to change codes, but because emergency services need
Speaker 4: access at unexpected times, it's generally not too wise to
Speaker 4: change those codes. The code works just like any other,
Speaker 4: so in many systems it's not like it's likely to
Speaker 4: alert anyone that the emergency access code was used. In
Speaker 4: some systems it may hit a log, but it's rare
Speaker 4: that a system allows a special notification to be sent
Speaker 4: and that someone has taken time to set up such
Speaker 4: a notification. Kind of scary to pause here, because it
Speaker 4: sounds like and you guys correct me if I'm off base.
Speaker 4: It sounds like what glass Gate is saying is that
Speaker 4: there are a lot of people who get handed skeleton.
Speaker 3: Keys and then it never gets changed.
Speaker 1: And it never gets changed. Does that sound about right?
Speaker 3: I think so?
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly, yeah, And glass Gate continues like some sort
Speaker 4: of hellish Billy mays. But wait, it gets worse. Long ago,
Speaker 4: I worked for a consolidated police and fire Department nine
Speaker 4: one one dispatch center which covered all of Salt Lake County.
Speaker 4: Our computer aided dispatch system would keep records on addresses
Speaker 4: anything they dispatch for and would add what are called
Speaker 4: hazard flags to any address. And one of the things
Speaker 4: they would use in that hazard field, right, that sort
Speaker 4: of metadata for sending people out was the emergency access
Speaker 4: gatecode for any quote, apartment, complex, community organization, company, you
Speaker 4: name it. And while that stuff was pretty up to date,
Speaker 4: because there were emergencies of plenty, I imagine there was
Speaker 4: very little logging in place in order to track who
Speaker 4: add access to that information. The logs would not do
Speaker 4: anything substantive in terms of chain of command. And I'm
Speaker 4: paraphrasing a lot here.
Speaker 2: But basically they wouldn't pinpoint an individual's access, right, that's
Speaker 2: what it's saying, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, that's exactly what Glassgate is said. And Glas
Speaker 4: goes on to say, here's a quick list of anyone
Speaker 4: I can think of right off the top of my
Speaker 4: head who would have access. And now we have a
Speaker 4: four point bullet list. Maybe we round robinet. Now you
Speaker 4: want to start.
Speaker 2: Sure, every police officer or detective in many employees of
Speaker 2: any police department we dispatched for, which was almost all
Speaker 2: of them in the county, which, again, theoretically that's good. Right,
Speaker 2: A police officer can gain access if you're stuck in
Speaker 2: your apartment or a part of your apartment complex, or
Speaker 2: even job right at your place of business and you're
Speaker 2: in trouble, an officer can come and aid you. Theoretically
Speaker 2: that's good.
Speaker 5: Every firefighter at emergency medical technician as well as most
Speaker 5: fire department employees in the entire county.
Speaker 4: And the third would be various contractors that Glassgate Center
Speaker 4: worked with at various times, sometimes or long sustained periods.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, yeah, I'm just here to do it.
Speaker 4: I'm just here to do the HVAC.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were talking about this on that news piece.
Speaker 5: You brought Matt about the Los Angeles killings of the
Speaker 5: young women very close to one another, and that's sort
Speaker 5: of where this came up.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is what glass.
Speaker 2: I think that's exactly referencing. I think Glassgate is doing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the uh And to continue, the fourth point
Speaker 4: would be, perhaps most importantly, says Glassgate, basically every employee
Speaker 4: of the company which created and maintained the system. The
Speaker 4: last point is important, says Glassgate, because this was a
Speaker 4: popular CAD system used across the country for not the county,
Speaker 4: the country, for small to mid sized agencies. The employees
Speaker 4: of this business effectively have access to gate codes across
Speaker 4: the entirety of the United States. Again, the company was
Speaker 4: based in Utah, does not have remote employees. And then
Speaker 4: Glassgate says the following, And you know what, let's round
Speaker 4: robin this again. Somebody pick up here that said, consider.
Speaker 2: This, Motorola provides their own CAD or computer aided dispatch system.
Speaker 2: The targets large agencies.
Speaker 5: Idea what one looks like or how secure its information
Speaker 5: might be. But they bought out the company which supplied
Speaker 5: the CAD system to which I'm referring to years ago.
Speaker 4: So feasibly. A lot of employees at Motorola now also
Speaker 4: have access to that sort of information.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Motorola has offices in twenty four locations across the country.
Speaker 2: They have innumerable contractors and provide CAD systems to agencies
Speaker 2: small and large.
Speaker 4: Sleep type gentlemen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, see, it's just so. Anyone that installs your
Speaker 2: home security system, anyone who installs your garage door, you know,
Speaker 2: any company that has those things has these default codes.
Speaker 4: Any delivery service that visit you regularly such that you say, hey,
Speaker 4: it's more convenient for you to just be able to
Speaker 4: get in and drop it off.
Speaker 2: It's not fun.
Speaker 4: It's not fun. It is a It is an important point.
Speaker 4: And you know this will be of great interest not
Speaker 4: only to you Glassgate, but I think to all of
Speaker 4: us tuning in this evening. There is a device that
Speaker 4: you can buy to play along at home called the
Speaker 4: Flippers zero. Have you heard of this?
Speaker 2: No, tell us.
Speaker 4: The Flipper zero is a relatively affordable let's call it
Speaker 4: a multi tool for pin testers and geeks until they
Speaker 4: describe themselves. The Flipper zero is something that can play
Speaker 4: with radio protocols, control systems, access hardware, things like that
Speaker 4: it's open source, it's customizable, you can play along with it.
Speaker 4: And what I'm saying is to add to your point,
Speaker 4: glass Gate, these entry thresholds often they're socio they're they're
Speaker 4: social barriers, they're not hard barriers.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 4: The Flipper zero might be scary to people because think
Speaker 4: of how many modern cars work on a keyfob. You know,
Speaker 4: that's all just what a radio frequency. I'm not an expert,
Speaker 4: but if one could emulate that radio frequency, a lot
Speaker 4: more cars are unlocked. It reminds me a little bit
Speaker 4: of the the the small picket fences that are ornamental
Speaker 4: that you see outside of so many houses in the suburbs.
Speaker 4: They go up to about your waist, and you think
Speaker 4: that is not even stopping short of it's more of
Speaker 4: a suggestion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is this the one you said I would be
Speaker 2: really interested in, Ben.
Speaker 4: Yes, I put that in our notes. I thought you
Speaker 4: would be very interested in the flipper zero, Matt.
Speaker 2: Why because.
Speaker 4: It's a way to explore different signals right vasively as well.
Speaker 4: It's fascinating. In full disclosure, this should not at all
Speaker 4: ever be used for anything illegal, And in full disclosure,
Speaker 4: I'm sure there are people using this for illegal means
Speaker 4: I don't think even law enforcement should have a skeleton
Speaker 4: key to all fob operated car bocks.
Speaker 2: Well, hey, weirdly enough, guys, I've got I've either got
Speaker 2: a poltergeist living in and around my garage or somebody
Speaker 2: tampered with my external garage door opener that I have,
Speaker 2: which is a whole lot of fun.
Speaker 5: Really, So, yeah, you thought that you accidentally left it open,
Speaker 5: but in fact it has been spontaneously opening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not functioning anymore. The password got changed on it,
Speaker 2: and I was like, huh, that's kind of strange. I
Speaker 2: was gone for a little while.
Speaker 4: That's concerning because also, yeah, we were talking earlier and
Speaker 4: you said you left the garage door open, and it
Speaker 4: just seems very unlike you.
Speaker 2: Yep. So that's fun. The good thing is if they
Speaker 2: come in my house, they got to deal with me.
Speaker 4: So well, that is that is a chilling point about this,
Speaker 4: and it's one that perhaps Glassgate is referring to here.
Speaker 4: The things that may seem secure are I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking about like chain of custody, what do
Speaker 4: you It's like asking about changing your password. How often
Speaker 4: does one change one's password?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: How do you how do you change those codes? For
Speaker 4: law enforcement?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean our work one requires us to do
Speaker 5: it every so often, but I bet most people take
Speaker 5: the path of least resistance and just add a digit
Speaker 5: on there.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: Whatever happened on is password wallets, remember those Those are
Speaker 5: popular for a minute, right, will generate you you have
Speaker 5: a master password that it generates you random passwords that
Speaker 5: are really complicated. You think there'd be one of those
Speaker 5: for a home security system, you know, or something along
Speaker 5: those lines, where you would know that it would cycle through,
Speaker 5: you know, in a way that it couldn't be replicated.
Speaker 4: There might be a that's a good question for the
Speaker 4: home security stuff. I imagine for direct access or even remote access,
Speaker 4: there's the facial recognition, some kind of soft biometric going in.
Speaker 5: You know, movies are any indication all you got to
Speaker 5: do is scoop somebody's eye out and then you hold
Speaker 5: it up to the thing and then you get access
Speaker 5: to the launch deck.
Speaker 2: We've all learned this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well, the thing that movies miss, I think
Speaker 4: often is that the eye scans that they're alluding to,
Speaker 4: which are real things, also factor in temperature of the eye,
Speaker 4: So you gotta it's.
Speaker 3: Like gotta be fresh.
Speaker 4: It's like cheating on a test, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like the people who cheat on piss tests will try
Speaker 4: to have whatever fake piss warm. You gotta like kind
Speaker 4: of you know, roll the eye around a little bit
Speaker 4: in your hands.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, those piss tasts take that into account if
Speaker 5: you buy those kids.
Speaker 3: So I've heard they come with little handwarmer.
Speaker 5: Things and you and you and you keep them in
Speaker 5: there and they warm it up and then you keep
Speaker 5: it close to.
Speaker 3: Your body can strip on there. That tells you what
Speaker 3: the temp is. So I've heard, is what I say.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: Also, I'm kidding about the temperature of the eyeball. It's
Speaker 4: not going to work. Please, if you're hearing this and
Speaker 4: you thought you were on the fence about it, don't
Speaker 4: take someone's eye out and try to get into that
Speaker 4: place because it's also it's going to need to be
Speaker 4: an actionable eye. And the technology to create something that
Speaker 4: dilates that way and responds that way to light without
Speaker 4: being plugged into a human skull is very non existent.
Speaker 5: Well you say so you need an actionable eye. I
Speaker 5: get you an actionable actionable eye.
Speaker 3: Oh you know, ah, you.
Speaker 4: Know you got ane with a guy.
Speaker 3: I got an actional eye guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we are speaking of folks who have eyes on.
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