1 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly Show. 2 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of the 3 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent Wednesday. So you know 4 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 2: what's about to come up this hour. I'll get to 5 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: that here in a few I should let you know 6 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: in hour three there's some hopeful signs on the horizon 7 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: about all this advancement in technology AI. I'll tell you 8 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: about something hopeful something terrible about the GOP. We'll again 9 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: talk at least briefly about influencer campaigns. It looks like 10 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: we've got some impeachments coming down the pike. 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There's 21 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 2: no charge for any of this. Our two of last night, 22 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: we gave a lot of the background, your thirty second 23 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: to one minute background. 24 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: Is this. 25 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: A man named Cecil Rhodes grabbed a bunch of miners, 26 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: other people, yes, women and children, walked into a tribal land, 27 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: a tribal land that had stuff he wanted. They started 28 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: to mine there. There were two historically there were more, 29 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: but two main rival tribes there who hated each other 30 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: and slaid each other, slaughtered each other, raped each other, 31 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 2: and burned each other alive for a very long time. 32 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: At some point they did it in front of the Europeans. 33 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: There was a big uprising. The Europeans were mortified by 34 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: such savagery, and they stepped up and they said, okay, 35 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: this place is kind of ours. Now this is done. 36 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: You all, you people, you tribes, you tribesmen, you go 37 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: over there. You other tribesmen, you go over there. Now. 38 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: This is what colonization looked like a lot of the time. 39 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: We're about to lay it out for the British Empire. 40 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: Remember when your history professor in college was whining and 41 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: crying about colonialism. That's actually kind of a ridiculous term 42 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: because there are so many different ways to quote colonize 43 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: a country. And let's be honest, right now. Colonization is 44 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: simply a more peaceful form of conquest. That's what it is. 45 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: So let's just call it all conquest, shall we. There 46 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: is a spectrum, isn't there? We could go with the old. Well, 47 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: the easiest one would be Genghis Khan form of conquest. Hey, 48 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: I really like your lands. I think I shall take 49 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: my gigantic army in there and i will slaughter every man, 50 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: woman and child. I'll even send a rearguard back to 51 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: your city to ensure I killed all the pets, and 52 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: then I'll move in. That is obviously an extreme end 53 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: of that spectrum, but that's how conquest has been done. 54 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: Then there are other types. The French. The French would 55 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: be more likely to kind of not really move in, 56 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: but trade with you, right, They'll provide security, they'll trade 57 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: with you. The Spanish. The Spanish were about as hands 58 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: off with so much of their conquest as you can be. 59 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: And I know about the Spanish conquest of Mexico and whatnot, 60 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: but the Spanish and all their colonization or conquests, they 61 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: really just kind of wanted the gold. Hey, just give 62 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: me some gold. You have any gold, I'll take some gold. 63 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: The British, in my opinion, did it smarter than anyone else, 64 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: because here's what the British always believed about conquering colonizing 65 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: any place. The British believed that you should move in. 66 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: They believe that possession was nine tenths of the law. 67 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: And you can't ever really grab control of a place 68 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: just by sending emissaries from Afar and picking up a 69 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: shipment of gold along the coast. No, you needed your 70 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: people physically building homes and schools and roads. You need 71 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 2: your people moving in and setting up shop. But wait, 72 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: there's more. I don't want to make it sound all 73 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: bad if you're against conquest. They also believed in integrating 74 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: the local population as you moved in. The Brits did 75 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: not want to slaughter everybody. They actually didn't want to 76 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: send everyone away as refugees. And we're talking about this 77 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: spot in Africa Africa here, but Britain did this in 78 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: many other places. They wanted to find a way where, Yes, 79 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: they took over. I'm not making them sound completely magnanimous here. 80 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: They wanted to take over, but they also wanted to Hey, 81 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: all these tribes and things like that. Look will help 82 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: you out too. How About how about some clothes, how 83 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: about a job? How about access to medicine, how about 84 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: how let's let's help let us help you too. You 85 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: are gonna work for us, like you're gonna work under us. 86 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 2: Let's be honest, but we're gonna help each other. 87 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: Here. 88 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 2: Your life will be better. And I don't want to 89 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: act as if they did this just out of the 90 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: kindness of their hearts. Of course there'd be some of that, 91 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: but really, for the Brits, and this is why I 92 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: think it was so brilliant, it just made more sense. 93 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: We want to take the place, we want to take 94 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: it over. Slaughtering everybody generally doesn't work. It's hard to do, 95 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: it's hard to maintain. As we've talked about before in 96 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: the show, you can't really kill your way out of 97 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: a problem. Usually that's difficult. But if you can somehow 98 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: make the people you're conquering make their day to day 99 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 2: lives better, then you have to deal with a lot 100 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: less rebellion, a lot fewer problems. They might even go 101 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: along with it, and in fact, Rhodesia eventually, we're not 102 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: quite there yet, Rhodesia kind of gets to that place 103 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: for a while. But right now we are post this 104 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: little tribal war. The English are mortified. The Europeans in 105 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: Zimbabwe are mortified, and they say, Okay, enough is enough. 106 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 2: Now it's ours. But what does it's ours mean? Well, 107 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 2: let's talk about what it was before the Europeans got there. 108 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: As you know, tribal lands. But what does that mean lands? Well, 109 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 2: a tribe, at least these tribes, the way they worked, 110 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: they would find some remote area, well it's all remote, 111 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: there's no civilization. They'd find an area that had things 112 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: they needed. And what does every tribe need? Every tribe 113 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: needs some way to eat. Maybe you're a hunting tribe, 114 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: maybe you do agriculture. Every tribe needs water. Let's find 115 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: a river, let's find something. Tribes are going to find 116 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: locations that work for them and that's where they're going 117 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: to build their village, their huts. That's how it's going 118 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: to work. And in many ways, the tribes were extremely isolated. 119 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: The villages were isolated from each other. These were people 120 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: who didn't build roads, they didn't have the wheel. You 121 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: as a young boy, I mentioned the two tribes yesterday. 122 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: I'll mention them again, the Shona and the Indobelly. And 123 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: by the way, the Indebelly go buy several names. I'm 124 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: just calling them into Belly, the Shona in the end 125 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: of Beelly. If you were a young boy, you were 126 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: born in this village, this indobelly village, there is a 127 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: reasonable chance you never left. Yeah, you would go out 128 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: and you would go hunt, or maybe you would go 129 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: to war or something like that. But you certainly didn't 130 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: bounce around the country. We modern day people, certainly modern 131 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: day Americans. Anyone, anyone living in a first world country 132 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: listening to me right now, you've been on a road trip, 133 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: How haven't you? Maybe you still live in your hometown, 134 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: but you know what a place one hundred miles from 135 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: you looks like, don't you? Of course you're almost probably 136 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: scoffing and laughing. Of course everyone does. Maybe you've even 137 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: been on a plane. That way of thinking is totally 138 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: foreign to these people who live in this area. What's 139 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 2: one of the very first things the Europeans start to do. Roads, 140 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: They start to build roads, they start to build train tracks. 141 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: Why well, they're moving goods and services and people to 142 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 2: and fro and now they're connecting villages that had previously 143 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: never been connected before. The African people in some time, 144 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: in some ways they're moving to and fro in ways 145 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: they've never moved before. And in some ways they're getting 146 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: run out of an area. If the English, if the 147 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: europe let's stop calling them English, because there were people 148 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: from all over the European world. If the Europeans wanted 149 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 2: that area, remember they decided they were in charge now 150 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: they said you need to leave. Well, they were also 151 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: integrating the local population, as I mentioned, they tried to 152 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: do that. They really believed in doing that. Let's find 153 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: a way to weave these people into our society. And 154 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: remember there weren't very many Europeans at the time, not 155 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: very many at all. They were way out numbered by 156 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: the tribesmen. So crime, for instance, you don't have this 157 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: large European police force. What do you do for cops? 158 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: Every area needs cops. Well, that can create problems if 159 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: you don't understand the area you're taking over. We'll get 160 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: to those problems in a moment. There's about to be 161 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: a rebellion, a first one. I should say before we 162 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 2: get to rebellion time, I want you to rebel against pain. 163 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: I want you to find. I want you to think 164 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: right now, you probably already think of it, thinking of it. 165 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: What is the thing on your body that hurts every day? 166 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: Maybe it's a head, Maybe your head hurts. Maybe it's 167 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 2: your neck, stiff neck, you turn and talk to someone, 168 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: you look like Batman. 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They're starting to 185 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: build roads, they're starting to build trains, They're starting to 186 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: connect African villages that have never been connected before. They're 187 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 2: starting to run Africans out of certain places. Now, this 188 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: is where, this is why I keep bringing up the 189 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: two tribes, because these two tribes, the fact that there 190 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: are two tribes who hate each other, is always going 191 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: to come into play in this entire story, right up 192 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: to the horrible brutal ending of it. Not to give 193 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: the whole thing away. Remember before these guys even got here, 194 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: the Shona had been conquered by the end of Belly. 195 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 2: They were slaves under the end of Belly. Those kinds 196 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: of hard feelings don't go away easily. And the Europeans 197 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: just got there, they just arrived five minutes ago. It's 198 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: hard to understand everything about the culture you're conquering. It's 199 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: hard to understand old tribal rivalries and bad blood. It's 200 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: hard to understand the religious significance, different significance of different things, 201 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: for instance, And this is going to come into play 202 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: for virtually all these tribes. You know, what was really 203 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: a currency for them, almost a sacred level of currency, 204 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 2: a status symbol cattle. How many cattle do how many 205 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: cows do you have? You have a lot of cattle. 206 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: Oh you've only got three. Oh that sucks, Chris, I've 207 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 2: got five. Must suck to be so low class. I 208 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: mean you're laughing, But that's how that's how it worked. 209 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: If you were a king, part of that status would 210 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: be look at all of our cattle. Well, what are 211 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: cattle to the Europeans at this point in time? Just 212 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 2: what they're beef? It's beef or its milk. It's no 213 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: big deal. You raise them, you kill them, whatever. It's 214 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 2: just one of those things they didn't quite get. They 215 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: also needed a police force, and they're trying to integrate 216 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:56,599 Speaker 2: the local tribes. But let me ask you something. Do 217 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: you ever have any bad blood in your family? Every 218 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: family hasn't, maybe even in your town a rival town arrival, 219 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:10,479 Speaker 2: family arrival, this arrival that. I want you to imagine 220 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 2: this when it comes to Zimbabwe that we're talking about 221 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: right now. Let's say your people, your people had historically 222 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: kept the Shona as slaves and slavery. Remember was not 223 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: touchy feely, not at all ugly things for women children. 224 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: Let's just say, maybe your mother had been a slave 225 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: of the endobelly. You're now twenty five years old. Your 226 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: mother raised you with those stories of what the Indibelly 227 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: did to them. The Europeans knock on the door of 228 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: your hut and they're handing you a policeman's uniform because 229 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: now you you are going to help police some of 230 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: the indobelly areas and you have the power of law 231 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: enforcement behind your badge. You don't have some oath you 232 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: take or even believe in. You're a tribesman who's historically 233 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: been at war, and that tribe has historically abused your family, 234 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: and now you're about to get a weapon and two 235 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: or three of your cop buddies and you're about to 236 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: walk into their area. Do you think there would be 237 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: any temptation to abuse that kind of power. This happened often. 238 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: The Europeans were having and will always have such a 239 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: difficult time keeping the tribes separate from each other, understanding 240 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: the depth of hatred they have for each other. There 241 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: was African police au African on African police abuse all 242 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: over the place. Combine that with this. I already talked 243 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: about historically how these tribes work. They lived in their 244 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: little villages. Now they're being moved onto what are essentially reservations. 245 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: They're getting moved away from their historic homelands. They're not 246 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: thrilled about it. Now, let's add one more element to it. 247 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: And this is a long complicated affair. For the sake 248 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: of not having this be a ten episode thing, I'm 249 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: fast forwarding through some things. There gets to be a 250 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: plague with the cows. What do the Europeans do when 251 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: there's a cow plague? They do what any civilized society 252 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: would do, and they start to kill the cows. I 253 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: just got done explaining cows are sacred to these people, 254 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: a status symbol to these people. As a European, you 255 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: may have everyone's best interests at heart. When you send 256 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: a few guys onto somebody's land and shoot twenty of 257 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: his cows in the head, he is almost undoubtedly going 258 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: to interpret that act differently than you do. It's bad. 259 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: Rebellion breaks out. Rebellion breaks out. In fact, you should know, 260 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: I won't tell you the name of it, because it's 261 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 2: another detail. I'm already drowning you in details. But they 262 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 2: consider the Rhodesian Bush War to be the second version 263 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 2: of this rebellion. That's what they call it. This is 264 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 2: the first of these rebellions. The tribes rise up, they rebel. 265 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: They are not as technologically advanced they do, however, have 266 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 2: the numbers. It's slaughter, it's destruction. They're doing things like 267 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 2: one miner. He had worked with ten Africans on a 268 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 2: mind for a long time. He then found himself with 269 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: them crawling into the mind trying to beat him to 270 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 2: death one night. There are some stories I'll tell you 271 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 2: in a moment. Before we get to some of these stories, 272 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 2: let me get to this. Let me talk to you 273 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 2: about changing your cell phone service. And you know why 274 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna read you this. 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Back to our history of 294 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 2: the Rhodesian Bush War. The Europeans had set up the trains, 295 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 2: they'd set up the villages. The tribes were hating each other. 296 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 2: The tribes were not liking this European rule, and they 297 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: broke out in rebellion. Now, this is nothing like the 298 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: rebellion that will happen during the Rhodesian Bush War. This 299 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: is completely disorganized. There aren't a the central leaders. And 300 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: remember the two tribes hate each other as much as 301 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: they hate the Europeans. So what does this rebellion look like? 302 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 2: It sounds horrifying, but it's essentially small areas where panic 303 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: gets inflamed, anger gets inflamed, and it's oftentimes led by 304 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 2: local religious leaders, local tribal religious leaders, you know, all 305 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: these weird tribal false religions. Local religious leaders would get 306 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 2: their local area to rise up against the white invaders, 307 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: the European invaders. I told you briefly about that story 308 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: of the miner. Well you know how most of that 309 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 2: story went. He walked out of his house to find 310 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: ten Africans who he had worked with on the mine, 311 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: not slaves or something like that, you know, working with 312 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: them every day lunch wages. That there were co workers 313 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 2: with war clubs. This animal manages to wrestle one of 314 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: the war clubs from him. They start beating him. He 315 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: starts swinging back and beating them. He makes his way 316 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 2: all the way into the mind shaft where he rolls 317 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: down into the mind shaft. And then he has more 318 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: miners in the mind shaft who he's worked with, who 319 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: he thinks will come to his aid, and they start 320 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: beating him too. He starts fighting them off. He's fighting 321 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: his way through the mines. These things happen. In another incident, 322 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 2: two guys are sitting there, there are women and children 323 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: hidden behind them, and the tribesmen have surrounded the mine 324 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 2: and they are essentially getting ready to kill everyone in it. 325 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: The two dudes make a break for it. What are 326 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: they making a break for. They're going for the telegraph 327 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: line so they can telegraph for help so the women 328 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 2: and children won't die. They book it, one of them, 329 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 2: actually both of them end up making it the entire 330 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: way to the telegraph hut. One holds the door closed 331 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 2: from the angry tribesmen behind him, while the other gets 332 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 2: on the telegraph machine and telegraphs the message out. Eventually, 333 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: the door is kicked down and both men die with 334 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 2: African spears sticking out from all over their bodies. This 335 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: is taking place all across Zimbabwe at this time, but 336 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: as I said, it is not unified. It is poorly led. 337 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: And eventually the Europeans raise for themselves, or that they 338 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 2: should say, they get back their army. It's a long 339 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: story I won't go into. Most of their fighting men 340 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: had gone to fight somewhere else and they'd been captured. 341 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 2: They get their fighting men, and their fighting men are 342 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: organized and they are well led, and they start to 343 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: put this rebellion down. They put it down to such effect. 344 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: The rebels are now starving. The rebels are hiding in 345 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: k and the Europeans are dynamiting rebels out of caves, 346 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: dynamiting the entrance, starving them. And there's an or horrible, horrible, 347 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 2: ugly affair. Cecil Rhodes, the guy who started all this, 348 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: he brings all the tribal leaders together finally after a 349 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: very vicious little war, and he negotiates a peace because 350 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 2: the tribes are starving. They're starving, they're done. Only now, 351 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: this is the problem with rebellion. When you lose one. 352 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: If you lose one, you are always going to end 353 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 2: up worse off than you were before. If you're going 354 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: to rebel, you better win. The whole history of the 355 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: world proves this to be the case. It's almost weird 356 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: when you look back and you wonder why so many 357 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: people rebelled. We're going to rebel against Babylon. Oh no, 358 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: we're all skinned alive. It just doesn't it doesn't work. 359 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 2: Now they have no more control. And now after the 360 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 2: negotiated peace, now Britain is no longer doing that. Well, 361 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: it's not really our thing, it's kind of a private 362 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: enterprise thing. Nope, Now this is the nineteen twenties. Now 363 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 2: Britain says no, no, no, no, no, it's our country now. Now. 364 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 2: They even gave it a name, South Rhodesia. By the way, 365 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 2: in case you're wondering, Yes, that name comes from the 366 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: name Cecil Roads. And no he didn't name it. In fact, 367 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: he didn't even like the name, which is weird. I've 368 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 2: always wanted a country named after me. That is not 369 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: what he preferred at all, but Rhodesia. Only at this 370 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: point in time it's named South Rhodesia. Let's fast forward 371 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 2: just a little bit. They are locking in their control 372 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: of the area. They're building whole cities now, they're trying 373 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 2: to modernize this country as possible in a long comes 374 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: World War two. This part is going to be important 375 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: for our story as we move along. I already told 376 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 2: you the kind of people last night, the kind of 377 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: Europeans who came here. These were not convicts who just 378 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 2: got out. These were not idiot's welfare recipients. In many ways, 379 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 2: it was the cream of the crop for Europeans and 380 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 2: their children. They were tough as nails as well, not 381 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 2: these effeminate, you know, pinky out people. Tough as nails 382 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: and they also had, because there were so few of 383 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: them and a country that was so big, with so 384 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: many bigger tribes, mandatory military service for all the males 385 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: if you were a male in Rhodesia, by the way, 386 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: and females females were the females didn't have man mandatory 387 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 2: military service. Let me clarify, but the females were tough. 388 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: The males were tough. We're not talking about sipping tea. 389 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: These were farmers and miners and people who worked hard. 390 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 2: And even the ones who were more wealthy, you hunted 391 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: all the time, the elements, sleeping out under the elements. 392 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 2: They were already a people familiar with the outdoors, familiar 393 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 2: with firearms. And then when you add in mandatory military service, 394 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: there may not have been many of them. At about 395 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: the height of Rhodesia's army's power, there was only about 396 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 2: twenty thousand. That's a tiny army. They were all tough 397 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: as nails, tough as freaking nails, because look, you grew 398 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 2: up in Africa shooting lions, that's what you did. They 399 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 2: were a tough people. World War two comes along and 400 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: Britain calls, hey, Rhodesia, we need some guys now I 401 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: need to pause here, and I'm going to have to 402 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: make this disclaimer many times as we continue to tell 403 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 2: this tale. It can be easy to think about this 404 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 2: story as white versus black. I'm sure you've done it 405 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: in your mind several times, because the Europeans were white 406 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: and the tribesmen were black. And in some ways that 407 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 2: may be accurate. But when I said they were trying 408 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: to integrate the Africans, they were trying to integrate the Africans. 409 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: That Rhodesian army I just mentioned, at the height of 410 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: its power, like half of it was black. They're elite troops, 411 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 2: like half of them were black. The Rhodesians didn't see 412 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: this as a white versus black thing at all. The 413 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 2: loser Kamis worldwide, it's very similar to the Commis we 414 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 2: have today. That's how they sold it worldwide. Look at 415 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: these Nazis oppressing the black people. That is not how 416 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: it was. They were working in many ways hand in hand. 417 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 2: That's exactly right, Chris. They used good old fashioned race 418 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 2: communism to sell this locally and internationally. When things kicked off, 419 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 2: the Rhodesian military was not just white Europeans. The Africans 420 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: were getting training, getting everything again, integrating them in Britain 421 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 2: fighting World War II needed men, They said, Rhodesia, can 422 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: you help Rhodesia full of a bunch of tough people, 423 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: said absolutely, tell us where you need us. So many 424 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: Rhodesian men, black and white, stepped up to fight. The 425 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: Brits got concerned that there would be no men to 426 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 2: go back to Rhodesia if they all died, so they 427 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 2: spread the units out all across the everywhere Britain was fighting. 428 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 2: They wouldn't let the Rhodesians go all to one area 429 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: because they'd worry about it. Hey send fifty here, sent 430 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: one hundred there, and they went and fought like lions 431 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: for Britain and World War two. Their service is incredible. 432 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: But something else, I mean, World War two was awful, 433 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: but the result of it was actually wonderful in some 434 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: ways for what is now Rhodesia. 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But we're doing part two of the 455 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 2: Rhodesian bush War. 456 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: Now. 457 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: We just finished the rebellion. The Europeans put down the rebellion. 458 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: Britton essentially decided, okay, that's enough of all this playing games. 459 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: Now it's a country. Now, it's our country. In fact, 460 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: we're slapping a name on it. 461 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: Now. 462 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: It's called South Rhodesia. And well, the way it works is, 463 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 2: of course, World War two breaks out. The Rhodesians, as 464 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: I mentioned, black and white military men went off and 465 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: fought valiantly for the Brits. That will end up mattering 466 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: later on. But something else happens, And this is the 467 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: ugly part of life, the ironic, I guess I should 468 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: should say part of life. In a lot of ways. 469 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 2: War can be good for economies. Certainly, if you are 470 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: a country that produces stuff, war can be very good 471 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: for you. Why are the Europeans in Rhodesia to begin with? 472 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: It's rich with resources, The land is wonderful for agriculture. 473 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: There are things to mine there. And guess which empire 474 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 2: needs stuff right about now? Well the Allies, well all 475 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 2: of them, but the Allies need it. The economy starts booming, booming, 476 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 2: there are huge checks coming into Rhodesia because the Allies 477 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 2: needs stuff. Well, this is Africa, we already mentioned. It's 478 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: a rough place. It's been a rough place, just has 479 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 2: not become a modern continent. Ever, what do you think 480 00:31:53,920 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 2: happens when the Rhodesian economy starts booming? The word goes out, 481 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 2: The word goes out to all the other countries around 482 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: there who may be struggling. There's always a famine, always 483 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: a war, always a plague, and more Africans start pouring 484 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 2: into Rhodesia looking for work, looking for an opportunity, and 485 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: they find them. But as usually happens, the war doesn't 486 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: last forever. And after the war is over, Let's say 487 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: let's say it's the year nineteen forty one in your Rhodesia, 488 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: just for the sake of argument, and your economy starts booming. 489 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 2: Everyone knows it, Everyone in Africa knows it. And so 490 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: let's just say you get a million, two million Africans 491 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: from other countries coming in to take advantage of the 492 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: opportunity to feed their families, clothed themselves, you know, all 493 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: those things. But then nineteen forty five rolls around in 494 00:32:54,160 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 2: bip war over. Well, there's still a market obviously, crops 495 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: and chrome and the other things they mind, but not 496 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 2: near the market it once was. Well, now all those 497 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: people have already come in, Now they've already brought jobs in. 498 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 2: Now there's not as much economic opportunity to go around, 499 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: yet the people are still there. This creates a situation 500 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 2: that from the outside looking in looks terrible. The situation 501 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 2: being this, you have these extremely wealthy, modern looking mostly white, 502 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 2: although there were plenty of black people. There are extremely modern, 503 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 2: wealthy looking towns that would have looked like any town 504 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 2: in America, any city in Europe popping up. Only on 505 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:56,479 Speaker 2: the outskirts there are extremely run down, poor, all black 506 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: shanty towns that start popping up. The reason this is 507 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 2: so disastrous is post World War Two there was a 508 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 2: thing that was happening globally. It wasn't just to Britain. 509 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 2: After World War Two, countries that had empires overseas started 510 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 2: to give them up. Sometimes they fought hard for them. 511 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 2: You know that. This was the French in Vietnam. They 512 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: eventually lost that, but they fought hard trying to keep it. 513 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 2: Some countries just flat out walked away from it. But 514 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 2: no matter what, there is a macro movement happening on 515 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 2: planet Earth post World War two. And that movement was, hey, 516 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 2: you super powerful empires with a colony here and a 517 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: colony there. In Britain's in India, and the French are 518 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: in Vietnam, and everyone's in Africa. It said, hey, you 519 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 2: know what, no more, no more, It's time to walk 520 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: away from your overseas empire. And I'm going to put 521 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 2: this in quotes because I don't necessarily believe in this, 522 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 2: but the quote decolonization movement has begun. Now, well, how 523 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 2: do you think Rhodesia looks to the rest of the 524 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,959 Speaker 2: world when everyone else is giving up their overseas territories 525 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 2: and now you look at this insanely wealthy, prosperous African country. 526 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: These other African countries, for the most part, they're sucking 527 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 2: it up. They're doing terribly well. Rhodesia. Certainly the Rhodesians 528 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 2: are the Europeans in Rhodesia. Rhodesia they're thriving. And the 529 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 2: African peoples in Rhodesia they're on reservations, just like our 530 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 2: Indian reservations. They're on reservations where the Europeans put them, 531 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: or they're in shanty towns. And there's another part of 532 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 2: it that just looked bad. And this is actually how 533 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 2: we're going to open our show tomorrow. So let me 534 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 2: ask a question. Who should get to vote in any society? 535 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 2: Who deserves a say in the government of any society. 536 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 2: I think you would probably agree with me that shouldn't 537 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 2: be everybody right, you don't want twelve year olds to vote. 538 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 2: Of course, if there's some serial killer getting ready to 539 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 2: be executed tomorrow, do you want his vote canceled out? 540 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 2: He's canceling out your vote for president tomorrow? No, okay? 541 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 2: So will at least agree on that it shouldn't be everybody, okay? 542 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 2: So that means there should be limits? What limits? How 543 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 2: do you form a nation, a good country, if that's 544 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 2: what you want to be, a good prospers country, a 545 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 2: country considered to be free, while also putting limits on 546 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 2: who has a say in the government. In Rhodesia, the 547 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 2: Africans did not have a say in the government. No 548 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 2: say none, And that's about to be a problem. We'll 549 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 2: have to continue that tomorrow. Before we do that, let's 550 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 2: do some more politics, shall we. Let's talk about some 551 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 2: AI impeachments, influence operations, emails more Next