1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: To celebrate the end of season two. Of many Questions, 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to share a few more answers from our 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: guests that you didn't get to hear over the course 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: of the year. As I'm sure you know, we ask 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: each guest the same seven questions every interview, but we 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: don't always get to share every answer. But that's why 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: I love having one last chance every season to share 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: a few of the conversations with our guests that you 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: haven't heard. So to close out this season, here's a 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: few of my favorite answers from guests this year that 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: weren't in the original episodes. Are deleted scenes from season two. 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: And don't worry, well, we might be tying a bow 13 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: on this season. Many Questions will be back soon with 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: brand new, fantastic inspired and interesting guests, but for now, 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: let's get into season two's deleted scenes. Here is pull 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: at surprise winning author Anthony Dorr Tony What would be 17 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: your last meal? Mine would be crisps? Whatever? Really? Would 18 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: you really know? It would be? Would I would have them? 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: They would be there along with everything else that I 20 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: was going to eat. I love them? But but what 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: would your last meal be? Um? It's gonna be predictable 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: the American. But I think I would do a hamburger. 23 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying not to eat beef very much, but I 24 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: think if it's my last one, I'm going to go 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: for it. I think you're fine, uh, and then with 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: like pickles, catchup mustard, the whole thing. Then French fries 27 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: with salt, really like salt. And then I would have 28 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: vanilla ice cream with M and M's on it. Now 29 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: is this something that you would eat when you were 30 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: a child or is it something that you're just imagining? 31 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: What the distillation of deliciousness is here? Like doctor Driver 32 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: the therapist in that one. Yeah, totally, I might be connected. 33 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: And it's like a try eildhood meal, isn't it? But 34 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: there's something about Yeah, maybe it's a mouthful of nostalgia 35 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: and comfort because apparently I'm dying right after this. That 36 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: was well, I mean, I I know it would suck, 37 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: it would It's so funny. It's kind of like. But 38 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: I also maybe in my version, like your last meal, 39 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: I someways think about all the other reasons, Like it 40 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: could be that you are like the last person on Earth, 41 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: or it could be in like the metaverse in some 42 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: virtual place one can go and experience like that feeling 43 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: of what your last meal is without you actually dying. 44 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: And then I think, but what would happen if you 45 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: actually got trapped in the metaverse and then it really 46 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: was your last meal? And then I go mad And 47 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: then at four o'clock in the morning and I don't 48 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: know what to do. I would like to say I 49 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: could appreciate each of meal I'm going to eat as 50 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: if it were my last meal. But usually I'm like 51 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: reading something and I don't taste it at all. I'm 52 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: jamming a whole doughnut right into my mouth and looking 53 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: at my email, and I realized I eat the whole 54 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: doughnut and didn't pay attention. So I'm trying to be 55 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: more present with the eating thing as because that's what 56 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: your exercise really is about, is defamiliarized this stuff we're 57 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: putting in our mouths and taste it because it's incredible, 58 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: Like we have access to so many spices that humans 59 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: throughout history didn't have. I can go buy avocados in 60 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: January and boise Idaho's incredible, So why if I could 61 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: just appreciate those things a little more and of a 62 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: bowl of vanilla ice cream and where it's ninety four 63 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: degrees outside, that's a terrible That's like an Aztec king 64 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: would sacrifice like forty people just to get Yeah. Oh, 65 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: I like that. I wish that that was a tribe 66 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: that we would find who had deified frozen dairy. I 67 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: would totally join that. I would join that collection of people. 68 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: Here is television host Katie Nolan. What quality do you 69 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: like least about yourself? How much time you got? Honestly, though, 70 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: I have spent the last whatever time two and a 71 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: half years whatever, we will all call the pandemic when 72 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: we look back at this part of our life. I'm 73 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: working on forgiveness of self, very self critical, and I 74 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: know that's probably a common trait among people, so I'm 75 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: not saying it makes me special, but it is something 76 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: that I am trying to work on. Forgive myself for 77 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: my shortcomings or understand them better so that I can 78 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: engineer my life around them. But the one that will 79 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: always haunt me is time management. I hate my lack 80 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: of an ability to manage time. I get very caught 81 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: up in my brain and I'm very curious, so I 82 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: follow a lot of paths like I could spend an 83 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: hour and a half reading about drama between two people 84 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: I've never met and don't know and I've never heard of. 85 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: Until I see a headline of this drama that sounds interesting. 86 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: I can read it and learn everything about it for 87 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: an hour and a half, but then I just lose 88 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: track of everything else. Scheduling things makes me so anxious. 89 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: I was ten minutes late for this a thing that 90 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: was very important to me, and I'm in my pajamas. 91 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: But the most generous reading I've had of that is 92 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: my good friend Mina Kimes, who also works in sports 93 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: TV and is brilliant and is our future and our queen. 94 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: She compared me to Andy Reid, and I know that 95 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: might not land, but I can explain it. He's a 96 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: football coach who is very creative in his play calling, 97 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: but sometimes he gets so distracted by how creative he 98 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: wants to be that he doesn't realize that the game 99 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: is about to end, and so he runs on the 100 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: time to do the thing he wanted to do because 101 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: he was showing off all the things he knows how 102 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: to do. It was part of the thing that's helped 103 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: me see the good intentions of my weaknesses. And try 104 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: to do my best at them where I can, and 105 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,239 Speaker 1: then be prepared to apologize for them or warn people 106 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: of them ahead of time, because nothing's worse than disappointing people. 107 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: There are all things less than disappointing people. Yes, probably 108 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: killing people. I think maybe after you've disappointed them, well, 109 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: then you have to They can't continue to live disappointed 110 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: in me. I must rid the earth of their existence. 111 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: I say this a lot, and it's a soccer term, 112 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: which is, even if it's going really badly, you have 113 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: to play to the last whistle. You have to play 114 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: with everything. Don't say, well, your creative play for the 115 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: last fourteen seconds of a game. But I'm a procrastinator. 116 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: That's what I do because if I as soon as 117 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: I write it, or film it or put it on paper, 118 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: whatever it is I'm making, then it's going to be done. 119 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: And I don't want it to be done. I like 120 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: living in the part where you're figuring it out until 121 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: it's perfect. I don't want to do it. What about 122 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: the idea that like it is never going to be perfect? 123 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: And now what about letting go of this constraint you've 124 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: put on it and just be in the process, which 125 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: you clearly love because God knows you create. Everything is 126 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: self generated that you do, Everything is about you creating 127 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: this content and offering that up. And people clearly obsessively 128 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: love what you do. Even the people that don't get it, 129 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: they love what you do. That's like that. I think 130 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: that might be one of the nicest things anyone said 131 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: to me. I hope that you will be nicer to 132 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: yourself because you're great. You're great. No, not really, I 133 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: have my own ship to work on. This is writer, 134 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: filmmaker and podcast host Sam Fragoso. Okay, what I really 135 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: want to hear this now because I think you might 136 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: know things that I don't. What question do you most 137 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: want answered? My question? And it's something I've thought a 138 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: lot about this year in the pandemic. Why do we 139 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: often wait for conditions to get so bad before we 140 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: make change? And that's true of love, it's true of 141 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: this looming ongoing environmental crisis, it's true of racial justice, 142 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: it's true across the board. Why do we have to 143 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: weigh eight for the conditions to be so untenable before 144 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: we try to make them tenable again? And it's something 145 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: that really bothers me. You know, last year We did 146 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: a podcast with friend labor Witz, and back in the 147 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: late nineties, we were talking about this piece she wrote, 148 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: which was with Vanity Fair was like Nas told too, 149 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: I think it's called on race is what it's called. 150 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: And she makes all these great with a lovely, smart, 151 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: thoughtful points, as she often does about race, and she said, 152 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know about any of this within people of color, 153 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: within the black community until I had a friend that 154 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: got pulled over while he had a Mercedes, and I thought, 155 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: that's interesting. But why do you have to know someone? 156 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: Why do we have to wait to know someone? Why 157 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: can't we actually just believe people's testimony? And this constant 158 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: thing this past year in the pandemic, whether it's around 159 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: mask mandates or police brutality, why do we have to 160 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: wait to have a secondhand account? But what do we need? 161 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: It's a really really good question. Why do we have 162 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: to wait for things to get so bad before we 163 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: address them? And also we don't seem to address them definitively. 164 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: It's like we all know that there is a climate 165 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: emergency and people are still just talking about it. I 166 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: wonder what that is? What is that human thing? The 167 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: easy answer is that it's laziness or slothfulness, as fran 168 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: would say. It also could just be life is really 169 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: hard already, we're already trying to just make it through 170 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: the day. When it comes to these big issues that 171 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: feel larger than life, although they're very much of life, 172 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: we let them go. We're trying to get on because, 173 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: as you said, this is all over in an instant. 174 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: She said, I know about people's experiences because I have 175 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: friends that look like that person, and I think that 176 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: applies to empathy in general. It's like COVID. It's like, yeah, 177 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: well I care about COVID because my friend died and 178 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: I had some people who mind. But why would we 179 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: have to wait for that? It's mystifying. I honestly think 180 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: that we look at a lot. We look at a 181 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: lot myopically and also to keep the gigantic nature of 182 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: stuff that's happening in the world at bay, and that 183 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: it's only when that bubble is penetrated by something personal 184 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: happening perhaps and it should or shouldn't. That's how it is, 185 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: maybe you're saying. When it comes to like change and 186 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: education in this country, there's been a long conversation about 187 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: giving kids free college or reducing tuition and all these things, 188 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: and the situation is dire. We know it's dire. There's 189 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: people not qualified for the jobs. There's not enough jobs 190 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: to even be qualified for. Schools are more expensive than 191 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: every we know. We all know this. And my dad, 192 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: who's a teacher, mind you, I sometimes said, and we 193 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: should really think about changing the system. We should think 194 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: about having these free colleges. In his first response as 195 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: a teacher as a Mexican, Yeah, but I had to 196 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: pay for school. I had to pay for them. So 197 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: it's like eye for an eye. It's like we're always 198 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: paying off the debt. There's like this ongoing ledger that 199 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: we need to toss out to say we're here now, 200 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry, my dad paid for it. But it 201 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: doesn't mean kids, aren't you now? So I don't know, 202 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: maybe that's part of it. I think that also works oversely, 203 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: and that it wasn't me doing that oppressing. I didn't 204 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: do all of that stuff. Why should I be responsible now? 205 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: I think he just comes back to we are these 206 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: individual entities, and maybe it is some deep reptilian brain 207 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: recognition that we are here for such a short amount 208 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: of time and that actually our lot is all we 209 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: really have the capacity to care about, and maybe there 210 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: is some deep programming of just taking care of yourself 211 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: and maybe your children because there's the DNA of the progeny. 212 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: I think it will. What it does is it takes 213 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: something that's really meant to stop you getting eaten by 214 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: a wild animal, and you start appying that to social 215 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: constructs that we have created as opposed to going, okay, 216 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: if we've created these social constructs, we need to develop 217 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: our responses to them, but nobody wants to do that. 218 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: They just want to make sure that they can take 219 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: care of their own lot. It's alternately depressing and understandable 220 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: because it's requiring us as humans to evolve to a 221 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: place to meet what we've created. It's so existential because 222 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: we've created all this stuff in the world, but it's 223 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: like we haven't evolved enough to meet the ship that 224 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: we've created with a response that is going to help 225 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: it or change it, and so we just stick our 226 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: heads back in the ground. There must be something hopeful. 227 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: In the specific context of when I asked fran the question, 228 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: I was she was sixty. It didn't even totally compute, 229 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: and I bet if you explain the dynamic and situation 230 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: to your son, who's much younger than I am. It 231 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: would make complete sense to him, and it would make 232 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: complete sense to my younger sister and my younger brother. 233 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: So there is some hope in future generations that I 234 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: think they're asking these questions. I think they feel it 235 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: in their bones. I do. So that's the hopeful party, 236 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: and then they'll have their own bunch of shipped to 237 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: deal with. Like I think that's also part of our condition, 238 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: that we continue to create stuff that we then have 239 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: to solve. Maybe it doesn't get solved. That's part of 240 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: the position. We might not survive our own slot. I 241 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: thought I was a depressing one, you know what, But 242 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: we're here in this present moment being happy. It's all true. 243 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: I think there is You're absolutely right, there is hope. 244 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: My son does not look at the world the way 245 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: that I do at all. He will have beginner's eyes. 246 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: With all the ship that we've created, it's really who 247 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: is the janitorial generation? Who is really gonna have to 248 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: clean up all this ship? I think it might be you. 249 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: I think it might be your generation. Sorry, Sam, here's 250 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: a broom and a dust bat and brush. I am 251 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: a fossil, like I'm going to hand that on hand 252 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: that up. Next up is comedian, actress and co writer 253 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: of the TV series Starstruck Rose Matter Fair. Okay, so 254 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: what person, plays or experience so far has most altered 255 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: your life? Oh, this is a it's very hard. I 256 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: feel like I haven't lived lived answers to the question, 257 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: I think experience in place I think would be would 258 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: be a big one for me. And that is I 259 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: think just being from New Zealand, living in New Zealand, 260 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: growing up in a place like New Zealand, it has 261 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: an immense effect I think on anyone who went through that. 262 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: I live in London now, but I think, yeah, I 263 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: just wouldn't have been the person I am and do 264 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: the things I do, and particularly I think, you know, 265 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: I started in comedy, like, I don't think I would 266 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: have had the attitude towards making things and making comedy 267 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: and writing and just creativity in general if I hadn't 268 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: come from a country where it was like, I don't 269 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: know something specific about news that you know a lot 270 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: of New Zealanders, you know who like we're an l 271 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: a at the same time as you install all those 272 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: kind of you know, people who have moved abroad, and 273 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: there is just this weird quality when you come from 274 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: a country in the bottom of the world and you're 275 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: allowed to like have this sort of sandpit of just 276 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: doing whatever you want without I think a lot of 277 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: the pressures, particularly and like you know, being a performer 278 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: in like cities like London or like you know, in 279 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: the States and stuff, and know, you can be weird. 280 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: But New Zealand seems to be this really extraordinary incubator 281 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: for creativity. Like that's what I've noticed with the actors, writers, directors, 282 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: musicians that I know New Zealand. It's like this brilliant 283 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: creative science island where you're all you're all grown and 284 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: then you go off out into the world and everybody 285 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: because there is something recognizable there. For me, there is 286 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: something recognizably Keywi. There is a way of seeing the 287 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: world that is brilliant and clever and also doesn't really 288 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: give a fuck, but it's curious and fascinated and not 289 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: or at least not publicly judgmental, yes, but rather rather 290 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: sort of let me have all this input. Maybe again 291 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: from being from little lovely Islands at the you know, 292 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: in the southern hemisphere. There's a lot of this pressure. 293 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: I think, I think the output of of lots of 294 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: things like music and film that comes out of New Zealand. 295 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: I mean there's always like it's always the funny thing. 296 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: I think there's very I think Ireland and New Zealand 297 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: have very similar like a lot of my Irish friends, 298 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: it's bizarrely like it's kind of similar traits. But I 299 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: think it's you know, farming and men with depression. That's 300 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: heavy drinking, heavy drinking, sheep farming, member depression, similar population size. Yes, 301 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: that's the vibe. I think geography really obviously has an 302 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: effect on a sort of national attitude and and and 303 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: sort of you know, even personality traits. But I think 304 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: I think, you know, New Zealand is a place where 305 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: there is like an earnest as well sometimes in like 306 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: a connection to the land that you're from, and you know, 307 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: a sensitivity. I think that maybe you know, the other 308 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: places have less or I don't know. I think it's 309 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: just a great place for you to be a weird 310 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: artie freak and like you know, learn to do something 311 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: without pressure and you know you look at like you 312 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: know tycho or like you know a fly to the 313 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: concord or you know, act your main all that's amazing 314 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: all given the opportunity to just sunk around for many 315 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: years doing comedy and the same with you know, filmmakers 316 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: from New Zealand. I think it's like the work is 317 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: the focus sometimes rather than like the industry, because it's like, no, 318 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: there's not really an industry you know down there as 319 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: such like as much as you know here or in America, 320 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: and just you know, a healthy attitude towards um life. 321 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: It's certainly working in comedy and television and stuff. I 322 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: think there's always part when you when you've got another 323 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: New Zealander, like I've got Alice Neddon, who I write 324 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: you sound struck with, and it's like inception. You know, 325 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: we're each other's token, just grounding each other and going, remember, 326 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: none of this matters. It's fine. You are such a stupid, 327 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: silly person from we grew up streets away from each other. 328 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: This is all ridiculous and very funny, and it's so 329 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: great and healthy to have that. I think it's so 330 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: nice to have a mate doing all of this with 331 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: it means my imagine I'm very jealous of that. It's lovely. 332 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: Next up is actress and model Brookshields. What relationship, real 333 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: or fictionalized, defines love for you? You know, it's interesting 334 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: because love in my personal life had always seemed conditional. 335 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: Then I became a mother and all of it flipped 336 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: on its head. It was no longer selfish to me. 337 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: That first feeling of unselfish love was it was something 338 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: I don't think. I thought I would love my baby 339 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: and I whatever, and I had a hard time with 340 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: my first one postpartum wise, but beyond that, I've never 341 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: known that kind of selfless love where I really it 342 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:19,239 Speaker 1: was just purely about this this other creature that I 343 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: was both responsible for and the desire to be the 344 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: best part of myself or version of myself instead of 345 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: just fit into somebody else's idea of of what that 346 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: love should look like. You know, Yeah, there was nothing 347 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,239 Speaker 1: you had to do to experience that love. It was 348 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: in and all of itself. Like that. I I get that. 349 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: It's it's a particularly I think you mentioned like the 350 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: transactional nature of being an actor or trying to make 351 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: a living doing it, and love is so wrapped up 352 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: in that because love and approbation in terms of like 353 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: an audience or people putting you in things. And then 354 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: when you have a child, it's so beautiful, how it 355 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: just it blows up that whole notion of you don't 356 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: have to try to do anything. You have to feed 357 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: that baby and stare at it and love it and 358 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: play with it and be there's no, there's something you 359 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: actually have to do, no, in order to engender that love. 360 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: It's so pure. Yeah, And I think my my version 361 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: of love for me, even all romantic love had a 362 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: it like had a goal to it. You did this, this, 363 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: this and this, and then that would happen or or something. 364 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: Or I'd be like, look at me, walk a walk 365 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: a walk, I like I would be doing a song 366 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: and dance just to sort of get approval or I 367 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: was never really first in it, and so it was 368 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: it was very odd. But then to you have this 369 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: primary thing kind of comes out of you and feeds 370 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: on you, and it's the most parasitic, crazy relationship, right, 371 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: And to just think, yeah, that's she doesn't even know 372 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: me and she loves me. Oh my god, I must 373 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: be all right, wait till you get to know me. 374 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: Here is comedian and television host Graham Norton. Okay, So 375 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: what would be your last meal? It would definitely involve potato. 376 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: What because because you love potatoes. I don't mean this 377 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: to be stereotypical about Irish people that because you ate 378 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: a lot of potatoes growing up a lot of different ways. 379 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: Have you always had an affinity for the tubers? I mean, 380 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: I don't know it's certain whether it's you know, nature 381 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: and nurture, I don't know, but a bowl of mash 382 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: but aato is so delicious. Remember seeing him? What's that 383 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: York film? There's a scene at the end where she's 384 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: on death throw and she's getting her last meal. And 385 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: I remember I was on a diet at the time. 386 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: I was trying to dose weight. So I see some 387 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: loots of fish and salad and things, and they gave 388 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: her her last meal and it was like chop steak. 389 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: It was a really big chop steak with potato and gravy, 390 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: and and she pushed it away. And that was when 391 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,479 Speaker 1: I lost all sympathy for that character, because I eat it, 392 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: you more on eat it looks delicious, get it down here. 393 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: So I do like the concept of last meal because 394 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: all of us are going to have a last meal, 395 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: but our last meal will probably be toast. If you 396 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: die of all day, you ends up with toast, which, 397 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: by the way, that wouldn't be a bad thing for me. 398 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: I love toast, do you, Yeah, really do if it 399 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: if it ended up being my last meal, I'd be 400 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: really piste off. It were the crisps that I didn't want, 401 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: but I had to take a packet of crisps because 402 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: I was hungry, but they didn't have the flavor that 403 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: I liked, and I ended up with like I hate cheese, 404 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: no onion crisps, Like I ate cheese nonion crisp. Because 405 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: that would be really a bummer for me, that was 406 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: my last meal. You could have, it would give you 407 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: a reason to live. You'd hang on. I must get 408 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: to the shock, must not let that lingering shit taste 409 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: for eternity. Yeah. And also I suppose maybe this whole 410 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: idea of last meal, it only makes sense in a 411 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: situation like you're going to be killed in fairness to 412 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: be work, you would I suppose lose some interest. And 413 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: that's what people have tried to say. There's me. They've 414 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: been like on the show, they've been like wow, they 415 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: were like, you know, I just think I would be 416 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: I just I don't think I could eat, and I 417 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: was like, yeah no, but let's just say you could. 418 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: Let's just see really hungry because it is your last meal, 419 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: and let's take the whole death thing out of it. 420 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: There might be I think I even said that some 421 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: of there might be another reason why this is your 422 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: last meal. And there was a really long s You're 423 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: being abducted by aliens and they don't eat so potatoes, 424 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: lovely potato. It's mashed mashed potato. Probably do you put 425 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: butter and a little bit of cream or milk in 426 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: your bashed potatoes or do you just well, here's the thing. 427 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: When I go out, I eat whatever. But in the 428 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: house it's vegan and it's and it's one of the 429 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 1: things about mashed potos because I always thought mashed potatoes 430 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: were gorgeous because you put you know, lots of woster 431 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: in them. And can I just say, we've been underestimating 432 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: the potato this whole time. Just a bit of plant 433 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: based butter, olive oil, salt and pepper and then mash away. 434 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: It is as delicious as any mashy you've ever had. 435 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: You're very surprising, Graham. I like that vegan mashed potatoes. 436 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: That that okay, you will last me on and then 437 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: I'm actually going to make that. Does it depend on 438 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: what potatoes you use? Because in America you can't get 439 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: you can't get like are they called marass piper my favorite? 440 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: You can't get them in America. Can't find they are 441 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: the most versatile. They are the most versatile. They are. 442 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: They are the best roast potatoes, the best chips, and 443 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: the best mashed potatoes I found. But in America they 444 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,959 Speaker 1: must have good potatoes. They don't have, you know, they 445 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: don't have new potatoes. They have like russets, but the 446 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: small potatoes. It's funny, I haven't found any really good ones. 447 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: But then I've I've never been to Ida Home off 448 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: the Potato exactly. Maybe I got to go there. This 449 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: is the legendary journalist and television host Dnam'm Paul in 450 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: your life. Can you tell me about something that has 451 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: grown out of a personal disaster? Well, I think my 452 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: first personal disaster was failing my exams. I had never 453 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: failed anything in my life. I'd never ever failed anything 454 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: in my life. I was always you know, first or second, 455 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: you know in my class. No, No, sorry, no, Joanna 456 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: Blundle was first. Wow, you've never forgotten Joanna Bund. I 457 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: have never forgotten. I was eleven years old until eighteen 458 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: years old. I've never forgotten it. But just to say 459 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: that when I did fail my levels, I was desperate. 460 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: I've never been that desperate. I've never sunk into such 461 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: a hole. And I didn't know what to do. I 462 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: did not know what to do with my life. And 463 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: I sent me home to Iran and I spent that 464 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: year in the revolution. And you know, you you wouldn't 465 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: want to say that that was a good thing that 466 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: came out of failure, but that was a constructive thing 467 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: that happened in my life that put me on the 468 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: path to my future. What did you do in that year? What? What? 469 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: What did you secretarial work? I did a little this 470 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: or a little bad. But during a revolution, a cultural 471 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: and a religious revolution, well it was hard because you know, 472 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: I was of the class and the group who was 473 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: being revolted against, so it was, you know, not that 474 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: easy for me to get in to see what was 475 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: going on. I watched it from the sidelines as it 476 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: as it unfolded outside my door or whatever. I did 477 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 1: not go into the protests I just watched and I 478 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: talked and I listened, and then in the end, my 479 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: father sent me out just before Ormeni came back, because 480 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: you said, if you don't go now, you don't know 481 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: what will happen. And I needed to go to university. 482 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: So that's what happened. I really did not mean in 483 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: any way to be disrespectful, to make light of what 484 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: must have been an unfathomable time in Iran's history. But 485 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: I do kind of love the idea that you've failed 486 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: your A levels and then we're like, okay, I guess 487 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: I'm just going to go back to the revolution. Then 488 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: there's there's no point anymore. I'm just going to go 489 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: back and watch everything chatting like that's that's that's kind 490 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: of that's kind of amazing. It sort of happened after 491 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: I failed. But it was great. I mean, what can 492 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: I tell you? It wasn't great for so many people. 493 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 1: Many people lost their lives. In fact, in my own family, 494 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: my father's brother, my uncle was arrested and in jail 495 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: and he was either killed or died or tortured to death. 496 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: We never saw his body. They never gave it back. Um, 497 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: And so these things stick with you it's a very 498 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: particular context that you then go out into the world 499 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: to do what you do. And I think it's astonishing 500 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: that you survived that, that you survived not just physically 501 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: but mentally. And I know you've said that so many 502 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: people didn't. Well, to bring it back to what you've 503 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: been asking me, I survived because of love and happiness 504 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: and joy and knowing how to see it and how 505 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: to recognize it and wanting it. M hmm. That is 506 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: true for all of us as well. I mean that 507 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: that is a wonderful thing to hear. And that's a wrap. 508 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to season two, and 509 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: I can't wait for you to join me next season 510 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: for even more guests, more laughs, and more surprises. You know, 511 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: when I first started many questions, I wanted each episode 512 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: to help us create some sort of cultural anthology, every 513 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: new guest giving us news stories that highlighted our differences 514 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: and our similarities, whether we're reliving early gigs at CBGB 515 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: with Debbie Harry, sharing fried Hallumi cheese with an Airs Mitchell, 516 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: or talking about dog psychics with Graham Norton. I hope 517 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: you heard something that made you laugh, something that surprised you, 518 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: maybe even something that made you feel a little more 519 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: connected to the world. 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