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Speaker 1: I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Amsen, and this is the

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Speaker 1: PAC twelve Apostles, the final episode of the PAC twelve

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Speaker 1: Apostles before we're rebranded, of course, and you guys, of course,

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Speaker 1: make sure that you guys go over to Unafraid Show

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Speaker 1: Show dot com, everything in between, great new content and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. But we wanted to talk about the

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Speaker 1: National Championship and talk about who we're picking and what

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Speaker 1: we're expecting today. And Ralph, I have been torn since

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Speaker 1: my Oregon Ducks got knocked out of the National Championship

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Speaker 1: picture by the Washington Huskies. And I've been torn because

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Speaker 1: this team is so likable, dude, Michael Pennix Junior, all

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Speaker 1: the injuries, how do you not root for him? They've

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Speaker 1: had multiple coaches because the story is good, right, and

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Speaker 1: I'm a personal love stories. The story is good, so

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Speaker 1: I don't want them to win. But if they did win,

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what those noises mean. Oh man,

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Speaker 2: I went for the people listening. This is the technically

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Speaker 2: the final episode of pecteve Apostles is just Championship preview.

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Speaker 2: We will come back. We'll talk about what happened in

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Speaker 2: the championship sometime later this week. We'll figure it out, uh,

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Speaker 2: and then we'll be back. Uh in your ears and

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Speaker 2: your listening devices with a with a news show, got

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Speaker 2: to figure out what though.

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Speaker 1: It will be on the same feed for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you don't have to make any changes. But

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Speaker 2: I will say this, it has been fun watching you

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Speaker 2: kind of get get put through the ringer of you know,

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Speaker 2: watching a team that you actually you love stylistically, you

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Speaker 2: love personnel wise. I think you adore these coaches. I

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Speaker 2: think you really do. I think it just comes down

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Speaker 2: to hating the color purple. Dude.

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Speaker 1: When we were at the PAC twelve Championship game, I

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Speaker 1: was in the tunnel and see and here's the thing

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Speaker 1: about it is that Washington fans in Oregon they hate

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Speaker 1: each other so much. But I was in the tunnel

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Speaker 1: prior to the Pack Tworld Championship and I saw one

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Speaker 1: of the Washington coaches that I know and he was like, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: wish wait. He said good good luck today and I

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Speaker 1: was like, we won't need it. And he was like,

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Speaker 1: and I said, wish you and your group the best.

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Speaker 1: You know, I hope y'all lose, but I wish you

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Speaker 1: and your group the best. And he was like, well,

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Speaker 1: I wish nothing but misery for y'all. And I was like,

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Speaker 2: Just like try, you tried.

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Speaker 1: I tried, and he was like nope, nope, just spit

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Speaker 1: in my face. So they're playing Michigan. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Michigan has seen an offense that's anything like Washington's.

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Speaker 2: Nowhere's good now, not even close. Not so.

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Speaker 1: But I do believe Washington has seen a team that's

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Speaker 1: like Michigan in in Oregon, except from Oregon throws the

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Speaker 1: ball better than throws the ball better than Michigan does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right. I think that I would

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Speaker 2: put Michigan and I would put Oregon on Michigan's level.

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Speaker 2: I think they're an elite football team. They're physical, they're big.

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Speaker 2: At everybody who sees Oregon in person, your boy Josh

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Speaker 2: pat All say they look like a big ten roster

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Speaker 2: in the trenches. They look like an SEC roster in

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Speaker 2: the trenches. Uh So, I don't think. I don't think

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Speaker 2: but the one thing that I'm not one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: sure about because I'm all in on Washington here. I

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Speaker 2: think they're the better team. I think they're better constructed.

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Speaker 2: I think they're senior heavy. It's hard for me to

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Speaker 2: for Jim Harbaugh going back thirty years. I got a

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Speaker 2: unless it's just the fact that people didn't watch Washington

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Speaker 1: We have point spread, it's a five and a half

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Speaker 2: Michigan, right, Yeah, But I don't think people have watched Washington.

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Speaker 2: All the people, everybody in our media industry this week

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Speaker 2: isn't anybody talking about Michael Penix is the first rounder?

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Speaker 2: You're the Why isn't anybody it's you? It's because you

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Speaker 2: He doesn't look any different than he looked last year.

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Speaker 1: Not at a little bit. Oh guys, I noticed that too.

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Speaker 2: Stop irustrating dude, all these like all I saw the

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Speaker 1: What wasn't even the best of Pennix? Like that lit

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Speaker 1: played his best football when it mattered the most. He

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Speaker 1: I don't expect anything but that from from him. Like

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Speaker 1: But now on the Michigan side. Michigan is going to

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Speaker 2: Do you think Washington can handle that because I don't

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Speaker 1: See now, I don't see. In the Pac twelve championship game,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe Oregon played their best game. I don't

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Speaker 1: But I do believe though that Washington if they can

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I think I think that McCarthy has

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Speaker 2: They're gonna go They're gonna go right at Sandrastill, the

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Speaker 2: go at everybody. That's what they do. Yep, they go

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Speaker 2: I think this game is gonna be close regardless, but

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Speaker 2: the Michigan gets down, they can't. They're not gonna be

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Speaker 1: Well Georgia, Georgia did against so Oklahoma State that one time,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sorry against to Oklahoma and the Rose Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Run defensive Swiss cheese though. So So before we get

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Speaker 2: Who are you picking Washington?

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Speaker 1: Give me a score.

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Speaker 2: I like Washington thirty four to twenty eight, a six

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Speaker 2: point win. Uh My guy Grady Gross hit a couple

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Speaker 2: I got a root for the roster that's literally full

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Speaker 2: of Arizona kids. We got to end this podcast the

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Speaker 2: same way that that I started, just me being a

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Speaker 2: massive homer thirty one.

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Speaker 1: I either want to go thirty one twenty or thirty

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Speaker 1: one twenty four. Huskies.

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Speaker 2: You look so sad. Who's your who's your player of

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Speaker 2: the game. Who's your player of the game?

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Speaker 1: Roman, He's the best player on the team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he really is. It'll be interesting man, that

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Speaker 2: I think that they they probably just were hiding it.

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Speaker 2: But they they got running backs. I mean, they have

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Speaker 2: given them an opportunity this year. So maybe we see

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Speaker 2: who do they got? They got They got Sam Adams

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Speaker 2: You know, hopefully one of them can pick up the

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Speaker 2: the if the Pac twelve experiment ends with a championship,

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Speaker 2: don't cry and.

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Speaker 1: My arm and I'll leave as this what did what

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Speaker 1: phrase did I back and say from the beginning of

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Speaker 1: this podcast, back to pack, back to pack. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting here Pack twelve exploded. I'm like, I get I

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Speaker 2: Is this a five hundred thousand dollars check for Oregon?

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Speaker 2: If Washington wins? Or do or do the Beavers and

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Speaker 2: the Koogs control the playoff money? That's what I want

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Speaker 1: That is a good question. We'll answer that on the

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Speaker 1: next episode, peace Out