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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to bat your Happy Hour. I'm

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Speaker 1: Joe and I'm Serena, and we are here to recap

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Speaker 1: episode three of Gen season episode three.

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Speaker 2: Already, I know we're flying yeah, and you know what,

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Speaker 2: Episode three was also action packed as well. I know

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Speaker 2: we said episode two was really good, but we're really

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Speaker 2: keeping the ball rolling into episode three with all this

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Speaker 2: boy drama.

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Speaker 1: Episode three started off a little more chill, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: that's how I kind of thought the episode was going

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Speaker 1: to go. And then all of a sudden, it was

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Speaker 1: like royal rumble and like these royal rumble.

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Speaker 3: It's like a royal rumble.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a it's like a wrestling reference. Okay, wrestling,

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Speaker 1: but it is a it's like a WWF reference.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm into it.

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Speaker 1: But I did go to a WWF show when I

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Speaker 1: was like fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, is that age appropriate? I think so, I

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Speaker 2: mean whatever, I guess wrestling is not real. I never

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Speaker 2: followed age appropriate activities. Yeah, I think what I want

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Speaker 2: to when I wanted.

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Speaker 3: When I was like, Wow, you're a cool kid, look

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Speaker 3: at you. Just a little revel.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's go. Let's get into this episode. It

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Speaker 1: starts off with Spencer, who's been pretty quiet.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we've talked much about him. I did

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Speaker 1: notice that his job is a pet portrait entrepreneur.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have some questions about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not really sure what that is, but whatever

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Speaker 1: I mean, I I'm not judging.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what podcast, but I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of people with pets would take their animal to get

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Speaker 2: sketched or.

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Speaker 3: Drawn or have a portrait out of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: My aunt has one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a lot of people do, and I

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Speaker 1: could see us doing that. So maybe it's maybe it's

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Speaker 1: a wildly business could be, especially if he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: much competition, But I will say, yeah, Spencer. One thing

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Speaker 1: I did keep in mind with Spencer is the few guys,

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Speaker 1: well at least Grant, who we interviewed, had mentioned Spencer

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Speaker 1: a few times, which means he's one of the more

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Speaker 1: likable guys in the house.

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Speaker 3: Seems like a likable guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he seems very chill, because we're not getting that

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Speaker 1: from a few of the guys at least.

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Speaker 2: But anyways, most of the guys I would say are

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Speaker 2: not that shill, but Spencer's sheill. They do a helicopter

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Speaker 2: date I'm gonna be honest, this date activity fell a

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Speaker 2: little flat for me. I feel like the helicopter dates

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Speaker 2: need to be paired with something else, like a helicopter

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Speaker 2: and a yacht, or a helicopter and a beach.

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Speaker 1: Day or.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do, because.

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Speaker 2: When they're up there, it's hard to hear, and I

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Speaker 2: feel like there's not a ton of talking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just well, that's the thing. It's either because yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, with this date lacks is conversation and.

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Speaker 3: We're just like activity And.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: just because they're in a helicopter and it's loud, or.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they don't have a lot of chemistry.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking. Doesn't really seem like they do.

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Speaker 2: I just think with the helicopter day, it ends up

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Speaker 2: feeling like Jen and Spencer are sitting and talking in

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Speaker 2: a helicopter and then cut to the night portion and

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Speaker 2: they're sitting and talking at a table.

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Speaker 1: He's just like, all right, now it's my time to

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Speaker 1: open up and tell you that I've been cheated on.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, he was engaged, yep, and they owned a

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Speaker 2: home together, he said.

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Speaker 1: And then he said he uncovered some things.

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Speaker 3: She said.

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Speaker 2: Two months before the wedding, she came back from a

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Speaker 2: trip packed her bag, was like, I need some time

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Speaker 2: to think and went Emma to the parents' house. Which

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm always deep in like these random

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Speaker 2: sagas on TikTok these days, And I watched one recently

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Speaker 2: about this girl that her fiance like ended their engagement,

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Speaker 2: like right before their wedding, and I feel like it's

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Speaker 2: always about cheating.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I just like the way the way he phrased

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Speaker 3: He said, I uncovered.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, come alone.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking I'm laying in bed.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking it's three am, and I uncover that she

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Speaker 2: think in the banks of your memory that information existed.

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Speaker 3: I think that you maybe went through some of her.

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Speaker 1: Shit maybe, but we don't we don't know that. We

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Speaker 1: don't know that.

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Speaker 3: I'm not accusing you of anything, Spencer.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying we're missing some pieces to the story

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Speaker 2: on how you uncovered that she was cheating on you.

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Speaker 1: Well, it also it also could have been like maybe

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Speaker 1: he was having those feelings and thinking, maybe she is

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Speaker 1: potentially maybe she was showing signs of potentially cheating on him.

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Speaker 1: And then when they got some time apart, he started

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Speaker 1: thinking and replaying back totally.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he did put the pieces together and is no mind.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he had a weird feeling already, and then laying

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Speaker 2: there he was like, this doesn't add up, and this

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Speaker 2: doesn't add up, and she said this, so maybe he did.

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Speaker 2: But the way he said it, like, oh, I uncovered

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Speaker 3: I was like, wait, I feel like we're missing something here.

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Speaker 1: Now, I will say, I want your opinion on this,

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Speaker 1: right because when you go on a show like The

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Speaker 1: Bachelor att it has been a thing, it's like it's

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Speaker 1: usually works in your favor to open up about your

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Speaker 1: past and be vulnerable, right.

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Speaker 3: Really, because it's what connects you.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, if you get the one on one

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Speaker 1: time early on, you should do it. Then I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I agree with that because I feel like

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Speaker 1: it's early. It's early in gen's process and you're kind

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Speaker 1: of dumping your past trauma on to her at the

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Speaker 1: very peak, at the very not peak, at the very

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Speaker 1: beginning of forming a relationship with this person.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I also think it's hard when you're an

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Speaker 2: early one on one because with his story, for example,

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's relevant because it's his dating history

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Speaker 2: and we're on a dating show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but if she asks, yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Sure she did.

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Speaker 2: Though I'm sure she said, like, tell me about you know,

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Speaker 1: Obviously I don't think we saw. I think he kind

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Speaker 3: Think she didn't ask about his past relation.

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Speaker 1: Changed just like I want to bring something up, but

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Speaker 3: Okay too, like to lay it out there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know this story particular, I think makes total

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Speaker 2: sense for him to share on this one on one

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Speaker 2: day of like I was engaged and I found and

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Speaker 2: I think that's very relevant when you're going into a

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Speaker 2: new serious relationship. But I also understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like there was things I didn't even tell

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I also think I forget because I've

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Speaker 1: been so I'm so far removed. But how fast things

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Speaker 2: And you also just never know when you're gonna get

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Speaker 2: that kind of undivided time again, and he's probably thinking, like,

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Speaker 2: this is a big story, a big part of my

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Speaker 2: life and something that I've gone through, and I don't

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Speaker 2: get interrupted if I'm telling her this on a group date?

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Speaker 2: So there is comfort in like having control over the

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Speaker 3: Well, I think he did the right thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she seemed to be she seemed to enjoy

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Speaker 1: the fact that he opened up. But I will say

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Speaker 1: I don't really like if like I don't really see

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Speaker 1: sparks flying. Yea, but what I what Jen.

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Speaker 2: See seeming very comfortable with each other. But it doesn't Yes,

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Speaker 1: What Gen seems to be into.

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Speaker 2: Is the aggressor Yes, that's like that's she likes to

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Speaker 2: be aggressively pursued.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at this point, like that is because those are

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Speaker 1: the few guys that are being more aggressive, which we

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Speaker 1: see moving forward, We're going on.

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Speaker 3: To and you can see sexual chemistries like high on

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Speaker 3: her list.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to the group date. Uh, and we

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Speaker 1: see like Sam m is doing interviews where I think

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Speaker 1: I'm very confused he is. Really he's very angry, I

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Speaker 2: Hate Steven hate literally hates seven so much, and he

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Speaker 2: can't see her with anyone else. I'm leaving here with

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Speaker 3: Know her first.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Let's share a few more makeouts, Let's ask a

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Speaker 2: few more questions, Let's do literally anything together, because you

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Speaker 2: don't know her at this point, and she doesn't know you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All these guys, so many of them, are like, that's

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Speaker 2: my wife. I'm leaving here engaged to Jen. I can't

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Speaker 2: see her with any of these other guys. And it's like, guys,

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Speaker 2: you literally don't know this girl yet. Let's take a breath. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's a lot, I get it, the show's a lot, but.

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Speaker 1: It feels like in a long time, this is this

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Speaker 1: getting It's just it seems really much like a competition

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Speaker 1: you just went on a show about falling in love

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Speaker 1: and being vulnerable. So like the tough guy I think.

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Speaker 3: Could just leave it at the door.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we don't. It's it's unnecessary here, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: work in your favor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And last week we did say Devin is exuding

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Speaker 2: that I'm a competitor energy and this is a competition

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Speaker 2: and I want to win, and I feel like sam

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Speaker 2: M we're seeing that from him this week.

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Speaker 1: But double but also in Samm's defense, Jen seems to

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Speaker 1: be really into him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so she does seem really into him.

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Speaker 1: So it's like if it maybe he in his head

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Speaker 1: he's like, well, I'm just going to keep stepping on

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Speaker 2: So yeah, and I agree with that, like he might

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Speaker 2: be like, I'm getting positive feedback from this aggressive approach,

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Speaker 2: and so it was Devin last week from Jen. So

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Speaker 2: Decided to bear it all in a different way. That's

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Speaker 3: And he's like, I'm gonna say this.

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Speaker 2: It's more in my comfort zone to like beare my

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Speaker 3: Like, I think if he just went it was I

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Speaker 1: He may have meant to say, like I could see

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Speaker 3: Then what Joe trying to say is we've all been there.

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Speaker 2: like literally anything else but this. But sam N, for

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Speaker 2: N like, actually, Thomas N can just be Thomas now

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Speaker 2: That was a great moment because sam n stands up

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Speaker 2: You did nothing wrong, Like like these guys shouldn't be

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Speaker 3: Everyone needs to mind their own business.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird. I'm almost like we need, uh, we

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00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,360
Speaker 1: need to go back to the days of the Greg

445
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 1: and Andrews where they're where they all become best friends

446
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 1: in the world and they're having fun, because like these

447
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 1: guys are actually making it to where it's like all right,

448
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 1: like fucking I.

449
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 2: Mean, I'm sure some of them are friends, you know,

450
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 2: like you're really just saying the animosity, but I'm sure

451
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 2: some of them are.

452
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 1: It's just it seems it seems to be just so

453
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 1: aggressive that like so early on, like you usually get this,

454
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Speaker 1: I feel like we get this more like mid season.

455
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

456
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Speaker 2: Usually it's like there's a few people that don't get

457
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 2: along and like it like a straw breaks the camel's

458
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 2: back in the middle of the season and they lose

459
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 2: it on each other. But right out of the gate,

460
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 2: I mean, sam M and Devin after Devon stands up

461
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 2: for sam N, are like immediately going at each other.

462
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 3: Devin I can totally.

463
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 2: Understand as a controversial character and like is gonna rub

464
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 2: some people the wrong way, but he also kind of

465
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 2: seems like a you do you all do me kind

466
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:21,919
Speaker 2: of person.

467
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 3: Sam M is so bothered by Devin and.

468
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 2: They're just going at each other and they're talking about

469
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 2: mutual respect and I'll you know, I don't even I

470
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 2: don't even know what they're saying. It's just like a

471
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,439
Speaker 2: bunch of nonsense at this point. But it's not a

472
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 2: good look.

473
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Speaker 1: No, no, it's a bad it's a bad look all around.

474
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: But now it is becoming I would say sam M

475
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 1: is now starting to just like it's like okay, like

476
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Speaker 1: peel it back a little bit.

477
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: Because sam M is starting to instigate fights. Yeah, he's

478
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 2: like going out of his way to star arguments. And

479
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 2: then we see at the end of the group date,

480
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 2: Devn gets the rows yeah, because he actually has a

481
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 2: really good conversation with Jen and Sam Emm's like openly

482
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: mocking him, like not even trying to hide it, Like

483
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 2: he's like trying to piss off Devin. I'm curious to

484
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 2: see if he peels back moving forward, because he might

485
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 2: just be having one of it.

486
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Speaker 1: Could just be this episode.

487
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you know, the jet lags hitting him hard

488
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: and he's just on the yeah, on the offense.

489
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay. So then we see Aaron has

490
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: a conversation with what seems to be somebody from the

491
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Speaker 1: Air Force.

492
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Speaker 2: It always jars me when I see a phone on

493
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 2: the show, when I see a contestant with a piece

494
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 2: of technology, I'm like, whoa, what is going on?

495
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: And basically it seems like his boss or whoever it

496
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: is for who hires for the Air Force is gives

497
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: him an ultimatum of like you could have the job,

498
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: you got to be back here in a week. If

499
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: you're not here, it goes to somebody else. I'm assuming

500
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: it's a high man hide demand job. He says it's

501
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 1: his dream.

502
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the training for Yeah.

503
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 1: So, and he's a very like knowing his brother, his

504
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: twin brother. They really seem to be quite opposite in

505
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: and Noah is a lot like and I'm not saying

506
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 1: Aaron isn't, but Noah's like fun and easy going.

507
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: It doesn't know, it's very care free. It's a very

508
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: like carefree spirit to.

509
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: Him, where Aaron definitely is more of an intense, serious dude. Yeah,

510
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,239
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I get, at least from what

511
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: I'm seeing on the show. But he is one of

512
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: the guys on a group date of only four guys,

513
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: which is strange's ever seen this.

514
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 2: It's Jeremy who's on this. Jeremy Kim, Aaron, Aaron, and.

515
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: Austin ye race card date. Nothing crazy. I actually thought

516
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: Aaron was gonna win, but Austin won.

517
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 3: Jeremy like stopped the car and did like a little

518
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: makeout sash.

519
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeremy shined on the state. Yeah, and I really

520
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: like him, and I I think she really likes him.

521
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 1: And he does get the group date rows, which then

522
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: in turn we kind of see Aaron like, this was

523
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 1: my last chance to see if there was something really there.

524
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: I didn't get enough time. So for that reason, I'm

525
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 1: gonna go follow my dreams, which I totally respect. That

526
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: I think he made the right move.

527
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: And I think by not enough time he meant like

528
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: it's only week three. I just am not at the

529
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 2: place where like I'm feeling like I can't lose this girl.

530
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think he made the right decision too.

531
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: Oh, he definitely made the right decision. And I think

532
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: he went into the date like if this really goes

533
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: well and like we really hit it off, and I

534
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: get a lot of time. In that time, something forms, Yeah,

535
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: maybe that'll change my mind. Yeah.

536
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 2: He seemed to really go into the day open minded

537
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: to Jen and using that time intentionally to help make

538
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: his decision. And it just seemed like the decision he

539
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: made was that he needed to leave and go follow

540
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: his dream, which I think is amazing.

541
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Speaker 3: I'm actually I was so happy for him when he

542
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 3: got the call.

543
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: He makes that decision. But before he does, well, Jeremy

544
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: gets the group they rose. Then Aaron talks to Jen

545
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: and basically tells her like I'm out.

546
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: But before he leaves, to Jen at the cocktail party

547
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 2: for the Rose ceremony the following night, yeah yeah, that's.

548
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: That's where I'm at now. So he basically says like

549
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: I'm out, which everything was fine, and then before he leaves,

550
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 1: he says, but I just want to let you know

551
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: there are some guys here that are not here for

552
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: the right reasons.

553
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: He said, aren't ready and or aren't here for the

554
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: right reasons. He doubled down, which is always like, it's hard,

555
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 2: it's always a stretch.

556
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: Because the truth is anyone who is not there for

557
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: let's call it the right reasons, which would probably be

558
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,479
Speaker 1: like I am on the Bachelorette, to gain a social

559
00:26:54,520 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: media following or to become something in entertainment, right, Yeah,

560
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: if that's the case, and that person says that, most

561
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: likely the show errs.

562
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: That yeah, or Aaron saying yo, so and so said

563
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 2: that they're just here for social media, they're here for

564
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: other opportunities, and they're like, they're not here for you.

565
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: I think Aaron's comparing some of the other guys who

566
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: are not as mature as him and basically saying, well,

567
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 1: if they're not as mature as I am, they can't

568
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: be ready for a serious relationship or an engagement, which

569
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: that's not really true.

570
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

571
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: I go back to what I said the last episode

572
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: about Aaron is he kind of seems like a guy

573
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 2: that's quite black and white, which is totally fine. And

574
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 2: I actually do believe he is someone that is ready,

575
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: Like he seems like he takes this process very seriously.

576
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: He is ready for commitment, and like I believe that

577
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 2: about him. But it is hard when you go to

578
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: the lead and you say these things, and obviously, like

579
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 2: I feel like we have a little bit more sympathy

580
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: and perspective because we've talked to a lot of leads

581
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 2: about what that does to their mental state to say, like, hey,

582
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: I think he saw it was an act of protection

583
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: for Jen and like a warning, but for her it's

584
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: like something that's already nerve wracking, and like if you're

585
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: not going to name names, then like she's just out

586
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 2: here talking to all these people with a little bit

587
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: of an extra guard up and like questioning intentions, and

588
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: that's a hard place to be in for her as well.

589
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: So it's just a bit of a messy situation. I

590
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: don't think he had any ill intent if anything. I

591
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: think he had good intention with what he was doing,

592
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: But again I think it the landing wasn't quite there.

593
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree. He ends up kind of stirring

594
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: the pot, which always makes for good TV. Yeah, yeah,

595
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: she freaks out, and that she basically tells, like the guys,

596
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: if you're not here for the right reasons, like fucking

597
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: figure or sit out, And then she pulls Marcus and

598
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: talks to him.

599
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 3: That was a great speech. She was like, Marcus, you

600
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: want to go talk Marcus.

601
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: I really like he's great.

602
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: He's here for like there's no doubt doctor's here for

603
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 3: the right reason.

604
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: It's not even that like he's just cool, like he's

605
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: laid back. He he seems to just be like in

606
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: his own like doing his own thing. Like there's some

607
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: guys like you could you could already tell. It's like

608
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: Jeremy Grant. We just interviewed Spencer, Spencer Marcus. There seems

609
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: to be guys that are just more like the guys

610
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: that are a little more reserved and quiet at this

611
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: point are probably.

612
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: Just like more laid back.

613
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: Well, you said when we were watching it, You're like,

614
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: there's a lot of guys on this season trying to

615
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: act like tough guys, and it's the guys that are

616
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: more laid back that are probably actually the tough guys.

617
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 3: Marcus is in the.

618
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: Military, like he's Aaron Is, isn't he in the military too.

619
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: He was going for pilot training for the Air Force,

620
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: I believe.

621
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, But anyways, Yeah, I like Marcus. I think

622
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: he's another I think he's a front runner.

623
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: And at the first rows at the row ceremony, to

624
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: which I feel like is always a good sign.

625
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then sam m m sam M, I know,

626
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: I know it's terrible sam m in her talk and

627
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: like him or dislike him because he's definitely a polarizing

628
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: character on this show. She really likes it.

629
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I actually thought what he said when she asked,

630
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: did my speech scare you at all?

631
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: Or rattle you?

632
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: And he was like no, because I know that those

633
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: things don't apply to me. I know that I'm here

634
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: for the right reasons, and I know that I'm ready

635
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: for this commitment.

636
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: I actually thought that was like a good response.

637
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was his only response. It was a good response.

638
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: And then Jen, we see her interview basically say like,

639
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: you can't fake passion or sincerity, but like, yeah you could,

640
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: Like what are you talking about? You fake it like

641
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: people think it's acting, like actors do it, soft porn,

642
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: porn in.

643
00:30:54,800 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: General voice on a regular basis sincerity Watch another reality.

644
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: Jen seems to be quite a trusting person, which is

645
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: a great quality. But I worry for her when I'm

646
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: seeing the way that these guys are acting behind the scenes.

647
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't fake passion. Oh yeah, you could pretty

648
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: much fake anything.

649
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: I think she is looking at it from a place,

650
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: so she can't fake passion. You know, she can't fake it.

651
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'm a little worried about Jen's picker.

652
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: Jen's picker is a little jankie right now. I won't lie,

653
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: but it doesn't mean that she can't get back on track.

654
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: You know, we're only week three. There's still time for her.

655
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: And you know what, there's some guys that we like

656
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: that she likes, so we'll have to see. I'm curious

657
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: to see where her top four falls because it seems

658
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: like there's a lot of guys that she likes right now.

659
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: You lost someone in your top four, which was Aaron Herb,

660
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: and I lost someone in my top four predictions, which

661
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: was Thomas a.

662
00:31:59,200 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: So we're both down to the.

663
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Canadian left and Sor did the Chicago guy Hakim,

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Speaker 1: who we really like.

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Speaker 3: I know, I liked him. He had some funny interviews too.

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Speaker 1: Oh I did enjoy. The last thing I will say

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Speaker 1: is I did enjoy when Spencer told everyone to chill

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Speaker 1: when all the guys were arguing, and it was kind

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Speaker 1: of like I was like, thank god somebody said something,

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Speaker 1: because what the fuck right? These guys gotta chill out.

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Speaker 1: They can't like, have a drink, fucking if you don't drink,

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Speaker 1: have a non alcoholic drink, chill out, Like, yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is getting crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we don't have there's some seriously not chill dudes

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Speaker 2: on this scenes.

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Speaker 1: It's not that serious. It's just a reality TV but anyways, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know, but I just think that, like they need

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Speaker 2: to take the romance is less seriously, and the conflict

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Speaker 2: between the dudes and like these pre planned you know,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna get time first and you guys are gonna

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Speaker 2: fight and I hate you when I'm her favorite, blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah.

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Speaker 3: Like the dynamic between the guys.

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Speaker 2: They need to take that less seriously, and they need

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Speaker 2: to take their time with Gen more serious.

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Speaker 3: They just need to focus on that. I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: that they're not taking advantage of their time with Gen.

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Speaker 2: They actually all seem very into Gen and all the

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Speaker 2: chats that we've been seeing seem to be going really well.

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Speaker 3: So maybe it's not about seriousness. Maybe they just all

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Speaker 3: need to mellow out, like, yeah, send them to a

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Speaker 3: spa for a date or something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I said they gotta chill out. It's just

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Speaker 1: not that serious. But yeah, that's it. That's that's that's

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Speaker 1: the recap for episode three. Hope you guys enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you stay tuned. Later this week we are

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Speaker 1: going to have Sa Sam Sami.

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Speaker 3: Say the Love Virgin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Love Virgin Samy end is coming on the podcast,

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Speaker 1: and make sure you subscribe, tune in, download all the

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Speaker 1: all the.

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Speaker 2: Things, all the Things, and thank you for listening to

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Speaker 2: Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 3: Bye,