WEBVTT - Selects: Why Are So Many Disembodied Feet Washing Ashore In British Columbia? 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:04.280 Ahoy there everybody, it's your old pal Josh. And for 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:07.800 this week's s Y s K Selects, I have chosen 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:12.680 our episode on disembodied feet, Yes, with the great title 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:16.720 why are so many disembodied feet washing ashore in British Columbia? 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:19.440 Were released it back in June of two thousand and sixteen, 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:24.880 and it's a cozy little mystery about feet washing ashore 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:27.600 and we don't know why still to this day. I 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:34.680 hope you enjoy it. It's a really good episode. Welcome 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:44.000 to Stuff you should know, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:46.920 and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:50.880 Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry over there, and there six feet 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:54.520 in this studio right now, and all of them are 0:00:54.560 --> 0:01:00.080 exactly where they're supposed to be attached to their lowered legs. Yeah, 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:05.040 well the calf, yeah, yep, above the floor facing forward 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:08.080 to you, right. Yeah, that's a big one too, because 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.240 if it's facing backwards, you've got problems or you're just 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:16.160 going the wrong way all day long. Maybe. So, um, 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:21.600 do you know where they're not supposed to be Chuck feet? Yes, uh, well, 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.840 they're not supposed to be on the armrest of the 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:27.680 seat in front of you on an airplane, yes, or 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.600 a movie theater, yes, But I know you're not talking 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:34.600 about common courtesies. That bug me. But I agree with 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:38.560 you wholeheartedly. That is so wrong. And um, I'm meant 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:42.120 to tell you. I'm on, I've come over to your side. 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:45.360 About taking shoes off on the plane. It's okay if 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:48.960 I do it, but um, you mean And I were 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.520 flying somewhere and this dude behind us head it's nasty, 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.080 stinky feet and he had his shoes off, and like 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.880 we're facing forward and we could smell his feet below 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.040 our seats behind us, And I kept turning around giving 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:03.800 him the dirtiest looks, and he was like, you had 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.200 no idea what I was doing. Did you look at 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.760 his feet and then and he still didn't get it. 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:10.799 Did you look at his feet his face and then 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:14.160 clamp your nose? I did that still didn't work. I 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:17.200 threw up a little bit onto him. He just thought 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.680 it was there sick. Yeah. Yeah, I know. People disagree 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.359 with me. People wrote in We're like, what's it to you? 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:25.239 I thought it was to eat your own to eat 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:31.760 your own chuck? Yeah, you know, yeah, all right, so 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:33.880 I'll tell you a place where feet aren't supposed to be. 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:37.200 They're not supposed to be off on their own on 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:42.359 a beach somewhere, not attached to a body exactly. No, 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.520 that's not something that you see every day, No, unless 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.799 you're in Vancouver, and then it happens like almost every day. 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.919 It seems like not quite, but sure, there's something very 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.840 weird going on in Vancouver. You say there's no mystery. 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:57.560 I said, there's still a bit of a mystery to it. 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.320 But well, well we'll start at the beginning. Okay, Okay. 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.760 August twenty, two thousand seven. It's kind of a cool 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:07.799 and drizzly day at a place called Jedediah Island Provincial 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:12.600 Park up in British Columbia, right near Vancouver, right, lovely, 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:17.040 are sure, of course, that's why you would want to say, 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.799 like go park or camp at this park with your family, 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:21.600 which is what a twelve year old girl was doing. 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.000 I couldn't find this girl's name. Saved my life, probably 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:27.160 because she's twelve. She wouldn't be good to say it anyway. 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:29.640 She was sure. She was walking along the beach with 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:33.560 her dad, and um, there was a bunch of like flotsam, 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:36.000 you know, that's the term for stuff that washes up 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:39.760 from the sea, that the sea spits up onto the shores. 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.960 And um, she saw a shoe and she picked it 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.800 up and she untied it and turned it upside down 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.520 and out fellaw sock and inside the sock was a 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:56.160 human foot yep, and she was pretty surprised. Size. Yeah, 0:03:56.360 --> 0:04:01.960 it was a campus brand shoe, which ended up being 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:06.680 not neither here nor there, but it is manufactured in India, 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:10.880 mostly sold in India. Um, and we'll just park that 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:13.560 right there for now. Yeah. So the families like this 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:17.760 is unusual. Sure, they borrowed a radio from somebody else 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:20.440 and they alerted the authorities, and in very short order, 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.560 the mounties showed up, the corner showed up, the coast 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:25.839 guard showed up. I bet the mounties were all over 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:29.480 that foot. Um. So yeah, they said, you know what, well, 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.000 we're gonna take that foot is if that's okay, little girl, 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.040 And she threw her sobbing tears, said sure, but just 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:39.520 give me a little money, okay. Uh. And they said 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:43.800 we're going to send it off for DNA examination, and um, 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.880 that did that return nothing The DNA as far as 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:48.839 I know. Yeah, there was no there's no match. So 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:52.440 that wasn't like a clue the d NA, Yeah no, 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:55.000 but it was the first thing they tried. Sure the DNA. 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.680 They also looked at it to see what was going 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.520 on with the foot, if if there is any kind 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.840 of sign of what the deal was. Yeah, they held 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:03.160 it up to their ear and pretended like it was 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.520 a telephone. And one of the other mount he said, 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.040 that's not funny. But they're like, oh, it is kind 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:13.920 of funny, and they said sorry, so um, they didn't. 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.320 They just kind of filed it away. It actually didn't 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.520 make much of a stir outside of the area. It 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:21.520 was worth talking about. It got a little bit of 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.279 ink because it was just so weird. But they put 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.000 the foot away and at the coroner's office and everybody 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:31.000 went about their lives, right, I would assume so. And 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.640 then six days later another foot showed up in the area, 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.200 not the same place, but in the same in the 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.240 same general area, another right foot, which means it wasn't 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.599 for the person's other foot. Now that'd be weird. So 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.680 there's two people missing feet. Now, this is a men's 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.599 Reebok size eleven I think, and the people who found 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.360 it said that when they saw it, they immediately knew 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:53.800 that there was a foot in there because it looked full. 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.560 It looks how they is how they put it. Yeah, 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.240 and they picked it up and smell of it and 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.800 they're like, yeah, it's a foot, that's right. And the 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.320 mountains came in again and they got off their horses 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.960 and uh. Corporal Gary Cox said, you know, it is 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.719 a little weird to find two feet, especially within six 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.520 days of one another. Yeah, in the same area it was. Um. 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:17.920 He described it as a million to one odds. I 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.640 don't think he did the science on that, but it's 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:24.160 just something you say. But he said, too, is pretty crazy, Yeah, 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.960 and I agree with him. Yeah. So the first foot 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.400 was in on Jedediah Island. The second ones on Gabriela Island, 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.279 which is I couldn't find exactly how far away it 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.719 was across the water, but it's it's not that far. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:40.080 They're close, but they're separated by some water, um, and 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.560 they're not all of a sudden there's two feet that 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.479 were found within six days. The media starts to catch 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:50.760 drift of this one. Yeah, right, there's feet, uh shoe 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:54.680 de feet washing up on the shores in Vancouver, and 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.080 at the time, at that very time, um, Robert Picton 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:02.520 was on trial in Vancouver for um murdering as many 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:06.279 as forty nine women. You've heard to him, right, I think. 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.200 So he was a notorious pig farmer who would like 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.680 butcher women and feed them to his pigs, and then 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.520 butcher's pigs and feed pigs to his guests. Yeah. One 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.880 of the only probably Canadian serial killers, right, yeah, yeah, 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.080 and one of the worst of all serial killers. He 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:26.080 was a horrible, horrible person because he wasn't crazy, you 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:27.800 know what I mean, He was just a just a 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:32.720 horrible person. Um. And so he's on trial at that time, 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.240 got I think twenty five years, which is like the 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:39.600 maximum sentence you can get in Canada, come on Canada, 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:46.160 years for for up to forty nine horrible murders. Um. 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.560 So he was on trial. There are also a lot 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:52.280 of like really high profile missing people in the area too, 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:55.320 that it just vanished without a trace in the four 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.600 years leading up to that. Yeah. And you point out 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:01.000 because you wrote this idea, but actually I was pointing 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:05.840 out that Christopher Solomon pointed something. Okay, Well, the point is, uh, 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:07.760 and this is a little strange, but maybe not. I 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:09.080 don't know. I was trying to make sense of it. 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:12.480 British Columbia apparently just has a higher than normal rate 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:17.880 of missing persons than other parts of the world, which 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:21.360 is weird. Yeah, but I mean like a lot more, yeah, 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:26.280 more than people over a fifty nine year period. And uh, 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.040 Solomon compared that to Kentucky, which is about the same 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:34.040 size and population or same size population, they only had 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.800 five and fifteen people missing over that fifty nine years. 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.360 That seemed really low to me. Did eight people a 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:44.960 year missing in the whole state like that remained missing? Okay? 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:48.280 Unsolved forever? Yes, because in Kentucky they'll just be like 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:51.480 he was Uncle Billy's right down the road for a week, 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:55.400 right exactly. Okay, So like the the the idea is 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:59.440 that BC has almost five times the number of unsolved 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.840 seeing person's cases over this fifty nine period compared to Kentucky, 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.520 which has about the same size population. It's a lot more, yeah, 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.280 And I mean Solomon might have gone in and selected like, oh, 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.080 Kentucky's got the lowest of the same size population, so 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.440 that will really point it out. But it does seem 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:18.240 that BC has a large amount of missing persons. Now, uh, 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.040 I bet it has something to do with the terrain 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:25.920 and the wildlife, probably the abundance of water. Probably that too. 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:30.000 It's not a good good thing. A lot of heroin, yeah, 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.840 you know, sadly, and they probably go missing, you know, 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:37.080 in a drug And in addition to the serial killer theory, 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.640 one of them was that these were like people who 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.920 would either run a foul of the local organized crime 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:47.000 synd kits or um ran a foul of like a 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:52.440 fellow heroin addict unorganized crime, exactly disorganized Remember that movie? 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:57.680 What movie disorganized crime? Was that? A movie with Who's 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.280 the the Dude, the Blonde Dude from l A Law 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:06.680 Corpin Burnson. Yes, it's actually a good movie. Really, I 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:10.360 haven't seen Smart of decades. Hey, Summer School is one 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.720 of the all time greats. Man, it sounds like that 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.920 kind of movie disorganized crime, Like they're a bunch of 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:18.800 bumbling criminals. Definitely, But I think like or Fred Gwynn 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:22.760 was in it, Herman Munster, one of his last roles. 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.000 All right, so you talked about theories. One of the 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:31.439 other theories, remember we mentioned India manufactured that first shoe. 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.480 Some people said, you know what this is, sadly just 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:41.240 feet of tsunami survivors from the Indian Ocean disaster December 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:45.840 two thousand four, and they just years later, these like 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.680 body parts are watching up on shore, which is sort 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.959 of plausible. It is. I mean, two fifty people died 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:56.080 in that tsunami. A lot, if not most of them 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:59.600 were never found. Yeah. Also, we had people point out, 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.240 remember when we said that modern disaster flicks are bad, 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:04.880 We had a bunch of people right in say The 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:09.640 Impossible it was a great movie, that's the one about Yeah, 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.880 and it was great, it was awesome. But I think 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:16.400 that's different because that was a uh factual Uh, it's 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.720 about a factual event. But and I categorize it as 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.040 a disaster now. See I don't categorize it as that 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:24.400 because it was a real thing that happened. Like disaster 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.880 flicks to me are when you know, when you invent 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.200 some crazy disaster. Well okay, well let me ask you this. 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.040 If it were totally fictionalized but the exact same movie, 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:36.400 would you then consider it as a disaster flick? Yes? Okay, 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.120 so it's like on that scale and everything too. I 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.240 had the impression it was much more just like a 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.640 human interest. Well it became that. But they showed the 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:50.440 film the Tsunami like it was not amazing, how realistic. 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:54.800 It is very very tough movie, very hard to watch. 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.600 Have you seen Twelve Years of Slave yet? I still 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:01.120 cannot bring myself to watch that. That's pretty rough. It's 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:04.959 just staring at me on my DVR every night. I'm 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.160 gonna it'll be soon. I'll let you know. Okay, I'll 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:12.199 just come into work crying. Okay, what did I do now? Alright, 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:15.800 So the tsunami disaster, they said, um, might have been 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:19.160 one of the reasons. But um, I think other people said, 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:23.160 you know, maybe that's not the best explanation. Other people said, well, 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.640 a lot of people just go missing from other things, 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:29.160 like planes go down in the Salish Sea, which is 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.760 the body of water between I think Vancouver Island and 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:35.000 mainland British Columbia, which is where most of these were found. 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.040 Is it Salish? I think so. But we'll hear from 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:41.120 Canadians one way or the other. You say Salish, I say, Salish, 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.400 who's right? Really? You know? All right, well, let's we're 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.280 getting all excited here with these theories. But there were 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.160 more feet to come, and we'll get back to those 0:12:49.160 --> 0:13:11.760 feet right after this, So chuck. The when those first 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.480 two feet were found within six days made the rounds, 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:15.920 people talked about it, and then it's just kind of 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.360 drifted out of the news, right like a foot in 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:23.280 the ocean exactly. Um. And then a third foot was found, 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:28.199 and it came roaring back because this is yet another foot, 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:30.959 a totally different one. This is a woman's foot, actually 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:35.960 a new balance size seven I think, and Kirkland Island, 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:41.280 same general area right right, the same forty miles stretch 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.720 along that coastal area. And this is within ten months 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:49.840 now five ft four people. Yeah, so um, the other 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.720 new balance sneaker was found. That was the fifth foot found. 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.760 And then in between the yeah, they matched the foot 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.120 to the you know, I don't know if that's good 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.480 or bad, but they found the guy's other foot, right 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.679 the the woman that was the woman that they they 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:06.080 found her two ft yes, so her feet were number 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.720 three and number five to turn up. And in between 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:12.679 an entirely different person's foot turned up, men's like size 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:16.400 eleven Nike I think. So yeah. Within within a ten 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:20.440 month period, there were five feet belonging to four different 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.560 people that turned up on this little stretch. That's right, 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:28.200 that's significant. Then there was a six foot the next August. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:32.320 This was in actually Washington, so I guess it had 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.720 its UH papers in order and made its way to 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.360 the States. And so, like you said, if you're following 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.680 the story at home as it's going on, you're starting 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:44.760 to think, like, if I go to the beach, I'm 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:46.800 going to see a foot today. And a lot of 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:48.960 people did do that. Yeah, a lot of people around 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:53.160 British Columbius started looking for disembodied feet. They were turning 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:56.040 up so frequently. And I misspoke, you were right. So 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:59.960 the seventh foot to turn up was the woman's other foot. 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.440 That's hard to keep track, it really is, all these 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:06.360 disembodied So how many feet in total, sir? I think 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.920 the last two were found February of this year. Yeah, 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:11.920 and they actually belonged to the same person. But they 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.800 were found a week or two or so apart. Yeah, 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.200 and I say last, I mean most recent. I'm sure 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.440 more feet will come. It seems that way because between 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:22.960 so the first foot was found in August two thousand 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.560 and seven. These most recent feet were found in February 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:30.720 two thousand and sixteen. That total seventeen disembodied feet found 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:34.560 within a hundred and fifty miles stretched between Tacoma, Washington 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:40.360 and British Columbia. That's unusual. It seems like it, And 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:43.520 there's a lot of theories, but no one can stay 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:47.840 definitively here's what's going on, right, Uh And I know 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:49.840 we're making a lot of jokes. I realized these feet 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.080 belonged to people who are no longer with us. I 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.160 just want to throw that out there that we do 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:56.080 a lot of comedy on this show. So we did 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.720 a coma episode that had jokes. I mean, come on, okay, 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:03.320 I just want to see aw either. Uh. So from 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.160 the beginning, the cops and the Mounties were basically like, 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:10.320 I don't you know, this seems really fishy. Uh, but 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.160 it's not. We don't think it's murder. We don't think 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.320 there's someone out there killing people and chopping their feet off, 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.440 which is what a lot of people thought, but and 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.520 notably think, because their feet weren't cut off, and you 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.480 can tell right they were. They said that they were 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:28.560 naturally disarticulated, right, that's right. Um, So that first foot 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:32.040 that that girl found on Jedediah Island was identified pretty 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.520 quickly because the cops released a picture of the shoe 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.120 to the media. And remember it was a Campus brand 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:40.160 which has made in India, sold mostly in India. And 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:44.240 so the guy whose foot it was, his family saw 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:48.360 it on the news and identified him as somebody who 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:52.200 he was a longtime sufferer of depression and he was 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.480 in a depressed state when his family last saw him. 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.000 So the cops came to the logical conclusion that he 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:01.040 had killed himself. So foot number one has been matched 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:05.000 to a missing person case, right, that's right. Uh. So 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.880 then the new balance shoes turned up on separate islands. Uh, 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.639 this is the woman and she was identified as a 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:17.320 lady who also was suffering from depression and jumped off 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.800 a bridge. I think they knew this for sure. Yes, 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.480 that's where the woman was last seen, was jumping off 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.480 a bridge. Yeah, this has been four years previous, So 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.760 now they're starting to get a pattern here where all right, 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.840 there was another man to the one on Valde's Island 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:37.760 feet three and five. Uh, they determined was either suicide 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.760 or accident. And then another couple of people who were 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:44.800 accidentally killed. And so they see this pattern. Now, all right, 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.680 these are people that just happened to die or died 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:52.280 by their own hand, um near enough to the water 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:56.320 where their feet were there. Yes, I'm just being vague 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.560 for now, right, Yeah. But the weird thing is is now, 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.639 all of a sudden, in a very short period of time, 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.480 relatively short period of time. Um, I mean because one 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:07.880 of these guys whose feet turned up was last seen 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:11.840 after his boat turned over. So in a very short 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.120 period of time, all these people who died a very 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.760 different periods of time, suddenly their feet were starting to 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:22.639 turn up in this area around the stylish Sailish sea. Yes. Um, 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:26.320 and the cops had a I guess kind of a 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.399 pretty good idea from the outset. But to understand what 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:31.360 was going on, or at least what the cops say 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.080 was going on, you have to understand what happens to 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:39.200 a a person who dies in the water. You think 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:43.160 that people float, you know, yeah, you kind of think 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:45.000 that because in movies that you know, if you're trying 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:46.520 to get rid of a body in the water, you 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:49.879 always you know, tie submit blocks to a submit shoes, 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:53.080 is the old joke. You know, somebody turned up like 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:57.560 that in New York recently, like with submit shoes. Not 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:00.080 too many movies. But the idea is that you have 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.240 to weight the body down. And I suppose if you 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:03.560 were going to get rid of a body that I 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:05.439 would probably do the same thing, just out of you know, 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.639 just cover my basis, just to be sure. Well. The 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.879 thing is, if you do you cement shoes on a person, 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:15.960 which you should never do that, but if you did, UM, 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:19.640 what you're doing is you're not ensuring that they sink right, 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:22.760 then you're ensuring that they don't come back up, because 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:26.880 that's what happens body that has gone unconscious or has 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:32.399 drowned and died. UM sinks pretty quickly, and it usually 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.560 sinks so quick that if you are looking for a 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:38.320 drowning victim, you you should look on the bottom pretty 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.720 close to where they were last seen on the surface. 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:45.120 They sink that fast. Man. So a body sinks UM, 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:48.360 and it will sink faster and fresh water than saltwater 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:53.760 because saltwaters makes humans a little more buoyant. UM. I 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:56.320 guess overweight people, people with a lot of fat on 0:19:56.320 --> 0:20:02.040 their bodies sink uh more slowly than people who are leaner. UM. 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:06.520 And then depending on the water temperature, as well. Um, 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.560 and how deep the water is, they'll sink faster and 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:11.720 faster as they get to the bottom. Yeah. And depending 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:14.320 on what you're wearing, Yeah, like a code or shoes 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:16.320 or something like that that all the way down, or 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:18.840 a backpack, it's it's definitely gonna pull you down. But 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:22.119 the point is once you go under, once you submerge, 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:25.720 and you're dead or you're dying, Um, you're gonna sink 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:28.399 pretty quick. Yeah, there's more pressure to the deeper you 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:30.840 get in the body of water. Uh. You mentioned the 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.920 temperature was lower, but there's also more pressure that compresses 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:35.560 the air in your body, and that's gonna make you 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:39.600 less floaty as well. So the thing the cool air 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:43.560 or the cool temperature does down there is it uh 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:46.360 kind of preserves you for a little while, longer than 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:52.280 ordinarily because um, the bacteria that will eventually consume your 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.320 body or just gonna be slower you do, so they 0:20:55.400 --> 0:21:00.480 just move more slowly. But that bacteria is eventually gonna overcome, um, 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:03.600 the sinking of the body, because your body is an 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:06.440 enclosed system generally roughly, I mean you've got a mouth 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:10.320 and all that, you know. But as they're eating, they're 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:15.119 putting out as a waste product. UM gases like methane 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:19.080 and stuff like that. UM, and your body traps that 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:24.639 stuff and it begins to bloat. And I'm everyone knows 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:28.159 that once you blow, you float. That's right, that's the 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:31.879 forensics bumper sticker. Yeah, eventually you're going to rise to 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:34.560 the top like a dirigible because of those gases that 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:38.800 are trapped in your body, or like like a submarine. 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:43.320 I guess do you mean they keep going into the 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:47.159 air like a blip, You float off and then your 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:49.800 foot will be found on the moon later. Uh, yeah, 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:53.160 you're gonna float. And that's why whenever they people discover 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:56.280 like a dead body in a lake much later, it's 0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:58.880 you know, it's not a pretty thing. They're they're bloated 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:04.240 and puffed out and decomposed. It's not pretty. But if 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:07.639 you are UM, if you were trapped, say like in 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:11.000 a vehicle or something like that, and all of this 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:14.840 takes place, UM, eventually, your your body's going to be 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:18.840 prevented from floating away and it will eventually rupture. And 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:22.400 once the rupture happens, all that gas and the um, 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:26.320 the buoyancy that's created by it is all released and 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:29.399 you're staying there. You're staying there. And I read this 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:33.000 article about um. Did you read the article about the 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:37.520 Oklahoma guy? Yeah? It was really weird. It is so 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:40.000 like the guy. There was a guy who was um 0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:42.480 whose brother went missing in his Camaro and I think 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:47.640 like nineteen seventy and he um, he just never knew 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:50.280 what happened to him, and he used this boat ramp 0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:53.520 on this place called Fosse Lake. And he found out 0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:56.960 later when the cops accidentally discovered the car, that his 0:22:57.080 --> 0:22:59.800 brother had been submerged in just twelve ft of water 0:22:59.880 --> 0:23:02.240 for forty years. All those times he was back in 0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:05.960 his boat into False Lake, his brother was right below him. Yeah, 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:08.399