WEBVTT - Dancing With Cats! 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:06.240 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:10.959 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:22.840 Getti and he Armstrong and Yetty. So this hour, in 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.239 case you haven't heard what Jimmy Kimmel actually said on 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:28.120 Monday Night, we'll play that for you. There's some great 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:31.600 writing by Mark Halprin today about laying out all the 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.360 different angles of the whole thing. Maybe you'd like to 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:38.680 actually hear what the FCC chair said that kicked this 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.520 whole thing off. So we'll cover that story pretty thoroughly. 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:43.320 A little bit later in the hour, we want to 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.159 welcome to the Armstrong and Getty Show. Nope, no yet, 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:47.920 you're waving your arm Michael. He can just tell me 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:49.640 on the microphone what seems to be the problem. 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:50.120 Nothing. 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:52.360 Well, Hanson was talking to him on the phone. 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:55.520 Yeah, okay, well that's weird. 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:57.800 So Hanson was talking to him on the phone in 0:00:57.800 --> 0:00:59.640 a different room. You can't talk to him on the 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:02.440 phone here, all right, we'll figure it out. Can you 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:04.600 turn Katie's microphone on if you get a chance. Thank you. 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:09.360 I'm being censored, yes, yes, you've been silenced for things 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:10.479 you said about Charlie Kirk. 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:13.040 No no, no, no, no, no, maybe things I said 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:14.039 to Jo Jimmy Kimmel. 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:20.200 Yeah, no kidding. So the long and short of the 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.399 take on Jimmy Kimmel for us is I just saw 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:24.319 a piece of somebody else wrote they stole they stole 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:27.160 my idea. There are like five different reasons Jimmy Kimmel 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.240 is not on the air last night or tonight. Part 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.560 of it is the FCC pressure, but part of it 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.640 is the ratings. Part of it is a merger that's 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.720 going on. Part of it is the unique political moment 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:42.520 that is Charlie Kirk being assassinated and people being very 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:44.720 sensitive to it. You got to mix all of those 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:46.600 things in. Part of it is the expense of his 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:48.480 show and how much revenue it was bringing in or not. 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.720 All of those things factor in, Like if he had 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:56.320 big ratings and was making lots of money, he could 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:58.600 have said what he said and survived it. So you 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:00.600 need kind of all the elements end up where it 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.320 ended up. But I still do not like the FCC 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:07.760 commissioner threatening licenses and everything over content. That is that 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:10.600 is no good and no road to go down. So 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.520 I need to either go on with this Jimmy Kimmel stuff, 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:14.800 or do we think we're gonna have our guest? Do 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.320 we know? I'll make a decision one way or the other. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:19.119 I was told we're going to have him. 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:21.919 We're going to have him. Oh well, I guess now 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.200 I'll do a little soft shoe dance until we get 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:27.920 our guest. Did Wow? 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.400 I didn't know you could soft shoot? Look at you go? 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:31.520 And I'm in cowboy boots? 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:33.520 Are you really well? You're always in cowboy goods? 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:34.040 Pretty much? 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:38.440 Yeah, Michael, how are you doing? This is where I'm 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:39.079 hanging in there. 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.480 We're hoping to talk to this guy, Thane Rose, wrote Rosenbaum, 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:44.440 who I'll set it all up and then hope we 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:46.680 get him. He's a CBS News legal alndlist and I 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.400 want to talk to about TikTok because he's delving into 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.679 the details on that. There is the belief that there 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:55.480 is some sort of deal that is going to allow 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:59.600 TikTok to continue in the United States of America, and uh, 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.800 there are there's different reporting out there as to whether 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:03.920 that's going to be the same TikTok that you know 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:07.800 and love, just under American owners, or if it's going 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:11.400 to be an American company, but with a completely different 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.120 algorithm that you might not dignare as much. I mean, 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:18.160 the whole reason TikTok people love TikTok so much is 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.800 that I've heard from people that are on TikTok that 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.519 consider it like the great the greatest algorithm's out there. Yeah, 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:28.239 but YouTube, what Facebook does and Instagram and all that 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.720 sort of stuff pales in comparison and the ability to 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:34.240 TikTok to feed you things that you like. I can't 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:37.760 imagine what that must be like, because like Instagram reels, 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.320 if I if I go on that thing at all, 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.520 I'm I'm there for half an hour. Yeah, it's just 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:46.880 so good at Like for me, a lot of it 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.200 is U sports highlights for things that it knows that 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:54.119 I will like and concert footage. Between those two things. Yes, 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.200 I go sure, I've never seen this clip of Bob 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.120 Dylan playing here in nineteen seventy six or whatever. Just 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.040 end up getting sucked into it. Yeah. 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:05.280 I watched a pretty fascinating well part of a documentary. 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.760 I couldn't take the kid anymore, but it was on Netflix, 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.480 and it was about this this good looking young kid 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:13.080 who went on TikTok, and all these women just fell 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.960 in love with him, and he's massive, and like at 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:17.280 one point they were saying, oh. 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:18.720 You know, we'd like to donate to you. 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:22.200 So he put his PayPal account on his bio of 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:26.240 his Twitter earth I'm sorry on his TikTok page overnight 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:28.640 sixty thousand dollars. 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.320 And people are just sending him money because he's cute, yep, 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.920 because they think he's good looking. And I'm sitting there going, man, 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:39.480 you're cute. Here's a hundred bucks. 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:41.600 Yeah, and he would he would go on there and 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.360 say like, oh man, I wish I had this pair 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:44.120 of shoes, and. 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.080 They'd show up at his door the next day. 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:50.240 Wow, that I'm obsessed. Yeah, that is really strange. Okay, 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.560 we would like to welcome Thane Rosenbaum to the show 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:54.680 Now CBS News Legal. Anna, sorry, we had so much 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:58.200 trouble technical difficulties getting on. So what is going on 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.920 with TikTok? Is it going to this in the United States? 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:07.880 And is it going to be the same algorithm. 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.880 So jacket we we won't know for another ninety days. 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:12.840 This is now the fourth attempt to stave off forcing 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:16.680 TikTok to end operations in the United States. Remember this 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:21.760 started with legislation during the Biden administration that essentially had 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:25.560 a you know, we're not interested in social media companies 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:31.039 that mine data of Americans that come from putative enemies 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:35.760 of ours, and that there was no sufficient insulation or 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:40.000 Chinese wall, so to speak, between the Chinese government and TikTok. 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:41.760 That's a reasonable stance in my opinions. 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.719 Yeah. Yeah, and the TikTok's epic we're not really owned 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:50.000 by Chinese, and so there became a fight about that 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.559 when in fact, Byke Dance did have relationships with the 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:56.200 Chinese government, and it's a it's not as if they 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.159 could refuse a request, you know. It's like the Chinese 0:05:59.160 --> 0:05:59.680 government is. 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:01.679 Like the father. You don't the request. 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:03.640 So if they had asked for something, they would have 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.360 said yes. So the Biden administration said, look, you know, 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:11.520 you either sell yourself to an independent corporation or you 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.680 you shut down in your operations. And I said, you 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:16.760 want to do whatever you do in Europe, that's fine, 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:20.160 but not here. Donald Trump, you know, said, well wait 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.279 a minute, I think I won this election in part 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:28.320 because there's TikTok. Probably you know, it rallied an audience 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:31.200 that I didn't really even have the last time, and 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:34.719 everyone seems to have it, and there were an enormous 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:38.080 amount of It's not just apparently I wouldn't know this, Jack, 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:41.080 but apparently it's not just images of people dancing with 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:44.280 their cats. There are, in fact, small businesses all over 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.440 the United States that depend on TikTok is their main 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:52.359 marketing technique. So there was a movement among American businesses 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.520 they said, well, wait a minute, we're a small business. 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:56.920 This is how we could be. We need TikTok. So 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:01.560 Donald Trump signed a series of executive orders, just one 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:05.040 the other day that extended the time period for either 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:10.800 shutting down or selling. And he claims that he knows 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:15.800 of a consortium of venture capital companies, private equity, and 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:20.960 tech companies, including Oracle, and as you know, Larry Ellison 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:25.000 has just his wealth has increased enormously and I think 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.760 he's interested in this too. So he apparently is part 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:36.160 of this consortium. And the argument is that well, we 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.160 need we have to add a board of director, someone 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:42.640 on the board of director who has some American affiliation. 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:50.000 That's a requirement, and will extend the deadline for ninety days, 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.840 hoping that the consortium can pull together the funds and 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:57.880 meet with the regulatory approval that this no longer presents 0:07:57.880 --> 0:07:59.960 a national security risks in the United States. 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:05.080 So, uh, do you have TikTok on your phone? No? No, 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:09.440 me neither, and I can't I vaguely know. 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:15.240 What it is. But Jack, Jack, if you'll remember, you 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.680 had trouble calling me. Yeah, well I didn't personally, but 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:24.280 obviously right saying no, I'm blaming myself since I don't 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.800 have TikTok. I don't even know how to use a phone, apparently, 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:30.000 so I'm not and I'm not the right guy. 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.480 Do you not have TikTok because you're worried it's a 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:37.440 Chinese data harvesting tool. No, not really, you're just not 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.360 interested in social media. 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.920 I'm I'm a writer by trade, and I just don't 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.240 live in a world where everything has to be visual. 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:49.800 And I worked for CBS Radio. I don't, you know, 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.120 I don't I don't focus. I don't need videos all 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:53.320 day to keep me entertained. 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:57.120 Yeah, and I understand completely. The only reason I ever 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.360 got Instagram, which was fairly recently, is it's kind of 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.920 a marketing tool. For the show. But yeah, but we've 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:04.880 had the stats before, and you've probably seen them of 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.480 how many hours a day young people spend on TikTok. 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.680 I mean, it's crazy. They almost seem made up, but 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.319 I assume they're true because I've seen study after study 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:16.520 say that, you know, it's five hours for this group 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:18.120 or seven hours for that group. I don't even know 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:19.040 how that's possible. 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:23.560 But it's even worse than that, Jack, because if they 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.559 were just watching videos of people dancing with their cats, 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:28.640 that would be one thing, it would be it would 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.800 be stupid as all get out. But if that's how 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.120 you're if that's how you want your kid to spend 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:38.040 your day with another cat, that's dancing. Fine. But what 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:41.200 we're really learning, which is really distressing and it raises 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:44.800 First Amendment issues and other regulatory issues, is that most 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.520 young people get their news from TikTok. 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:48.120 Yeah. 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:52.520 So that's where it's worse than being entertained by silly videos. 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:58.559 It's that algorithms that can easily be manipulated are tailor 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:03.040 making news seed. They tailor it for certain age groups, 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:07.600 for certain sensibilities, perspectives, where they live, you know, whatever. Information. 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:11.120 So that's really what national security means. It doesn't necessarily 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.240 mean a bomb is going to go off. It means 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.720 that you're going to mind data that tells you everything 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.760 you need to know about America, where we're vulnerable, what 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.360 kind of stuff we believe in. How easy it is 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:22.360 to manipulate us. 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.959 Just give us a video or shade news stories a 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:27.560 certain direction that's in your favor. 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:32.000 Exactly right as I'm saying about, you know, tailoring news 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.800 seeds or blocking news seeds, for instance, make sure that 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.319 Jack Armstrong never sees a. 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.640 Story about this, right, he. 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:42.880 Cannot see a story about this because he's the kind 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.599 of guy that will it'll, it'll, he'll talk about it 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:50.199 on a show. So you're saying, that's the kind of manipulation. 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:54.800 And you know, remember the social media companies are protected. 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.800 The government doesn't can't interfere with their First Amendment right. 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.520 So if it TikTok is an American company, if it 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:06.200 becomes one, the government really can't regulate it because they're saying, look, 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.200 we have First Amendment rights work. We're essentially like a newspaper. 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:10.840 You can't tell us what's the publish. 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.240 Or what not the public right. My final question you're 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.920 the CBS News legal analyst put on a quote. So 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.440 c NBC reported the other day that the algorithm was 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:23.280 going to that the for the for the deal to happen, 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.080 it was going to have to be a different algorithm. 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:27.640 Then I think it was a Wall Street Journal reported that, 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.640 though is going to be the same algorithm. Well, that's 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.280 a pretty big difference because if it's a different algorithm, 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:34.680 it's you can call it TikTok, but it's not the 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:36.960 same thing. And from what I understand from people who 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:40.760 love TikTok, it's all about that amazing algorithm that can predict, 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:42.559 predict what you want to be entertained by. 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:47.080 Yeah, I mean that's the that's the problem the algorithm. 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:50.160 Although I read somewhere else that they're saying, well nowadays, 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.720 at the time that this legislation was created, you know, 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:57.599 algorithms were impenetrable and could never be done. Okay, and 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:02.200 apparently that's no longer true. You know, we've cracked the 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:06.640 code and people can actually duplicate it themselves. That doesn't 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:10.520 change the fact that we don't obligate social media companies 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:14.600 or internet companies to tell balanced stories. It doesn't you know, 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.199 it doesn't change the fact that you know, should we 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:21.319 be regulating, should there be subject to the f E, 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.480 FCC and other regulations. You know, there used to be 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:28.080 something called probably way too young for this, Jack, the 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:31.160 fairness doctrine, which ended, I think in the late eighties, 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:36.400 where if you had a license for broadcasting NBC, ABC, CBS, 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:40.160 you had to present controversial views and you had to 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:43.520 present other views so that it was more balanced. They 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.640 got rid of that. So that's why when I was 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.520 a kid and Walter Cronkite was the anchor for CBS 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:51.640 News and a third of the country or half of 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.920 the country who was watching him, no one knew if 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.079 he was a Democrat or Republican. You had no way 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.800 of knowing. That was a different time. Now it's clear 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.000 the politics is on your sleeve no matter who you are. 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:05.880 We tell you upfront, and we protect you from differing opinions. 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:07.920 So I got one question. This is this is a 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:13.080 Thane Rosenbaum question. So TikTok is beneath you? Is our 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.400 chat bots beneath you to use chat, GPT and stuff 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:18.400 like that, not yet, not yet? Good for you. 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.240 Yeah, I'm not saying I'm not saying that I won't. 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.280 But you know, I'm a writer and a novelist, and 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:25.240 that stuff scares me. 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:29.640 Here, I'll get my card. I am currently reading Ulysses 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:31.760 and I'm forty percent of the way through. I'm fighting 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.280 my way through that book. So to give myself some 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.079 credibility in your world, the higher thinking world. 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:39.719 You really impressed the hell out of me. 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:40.080 Jack. 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.599 You're the only radio guy that I've talked to the 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:50.600 heater who says anything like that. Joice is something you're reading. 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:54.880 Yeah, there you go. Rosenbom, CBS News Legal anadlist. Thanks 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.880 for your time today. I appreciate it. Thank you, Jack. 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:03.240 I liked his personality, entertaining guy. Okay, we got more 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:08.560 O the way, stay here, so I don't want to 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.160 reset this whole story. Oh by the way, Mark Halpern's 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.560 writing about the Jimmy Kimmel thing I thought was really good. 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:15.599 We'll have that next segment. But yesterday we did a 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:19.720 little bit about this Ukrainian girlfriend that I've got. 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:26.640 Jack Armstrong my precious that's. 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.960 Right, We've made a song about Jack Armstrong my precious diamond. 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:34.320 That's what she called me. So I don't it's probably 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:35.920 a bot. It might not even be a human being. 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.720 If it is a human being, it's some hacker dude 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:41.160 who you know, sends out these emails to try to, 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:44.520 I think, get you to click on a link. So 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.360 she sent me another email that had a I sent 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:48.920 you a voice text. I want you to hear my 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.720 beautiful voice, and then I'm supposed to click on the 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.560 voice text, and then that's how they you know, Then 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.360 they're into your phone, into your computer and stealing dat 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:58.880 out of your bank and all that sort of stuff. 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.960 So I'm not clicking on any But at the encouragement 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:05.080 of Michael and Katie yesterday I responded to her, which 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:08.800 I hadn't done before yesterday. I responded, funny, I've been 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:10.920 thinking about you since I got up this morning. I 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:15.120 can't stop thinking about you, all right, So she responded 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.440 At some point, Yes, they or the bot responded, or 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.640 the dude responded, or whoever the heck it is, it's 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.680 not a I guarantee it's not this person. And also 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.320 she's sent you like six different pictures. She sends these 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.120 pictures of beautiful young women, but they're all different. They're 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.680 not the same person, which is kind of funny. Sometimes 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.120 she's a long haired blonde. Sometimes she's a shorthead Burnett. 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.360 All my kisses for you, Jack, and then a bunch 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.400 of emojis and stuff like that. Hello, my dearest sweetheart, Jack, 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.760 Thank you so very much for your wonderful letter. Your 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:45.560 letter was a real present for me today. 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:45.920 Jack. 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:47.640 Why don't you write to me every day? If you're 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.960 thinking about me? It would be impossible for us to 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.480 build a happy relationship if we do not talk to 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.760 each other every day. If you do not answer my letters, 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.160 don't tell me anything about yourself. You're right, I haven't 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.600 told you much about myself. Isn't nothing right? Nowadays? Our 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.760 life is so wild and busy. And she goes through 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:05.920 how difficult it is in the modern era for people 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.400 to get together and fall in love. If a person 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.120 has love and is a heart, then a person is 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.200 considered to be happy. I would like my man to 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:14.080 be everything for me, my friend, my lover, or my 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.520 husband my everything. Okay, that's fantastic. 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:18.600 Well, and we went through how these things work. 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.600 So right now you are in the relationship building stage 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.200 and the next step is the crisis. 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.120 Well, that's why I'm playing along with this game. Because 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:32.520 one she sent the hyperlinks that the fishing expeditions were, 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:34.920 but the next thing, yeah, you're gonna be. 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:39.240 There's a family tragedy or something that's going to require 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:40.480 some form of money. 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:44.520 I'm gonna go with my dearest rose Jack. I got 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:47.600 the worst news today from my doctor. I have some 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:52.880 sort of ailment testicular cancer testicular cancer exactly, and I 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:54.480 do not have the money and I will lose my 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:57.600 testicles by Friday if I do not get one thousand dollars. 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:01.920 But that's why I want to keep playing along. I 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.159 want to see when they when she actually asks for 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:04.960 the money. 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:06.920 And sweet rose Jack, in order to keep my testicles, 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.040 you must pay me in the form of Target gift cards. 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:12.880 Okay, So I'll respond to her and keep this going. 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.119 She's right, you can't build a relationship with nless your 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:21.320 email every day. Yeah, she's got a point. Yes, Armstrong 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:22.280 and Getty. 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.200 Scot I'm not going to tell you anything you don't 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:29.359 know here. You sometimes offend people. I hear about it 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.639 on the socials. Do you think that you should then 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:33.439 be held at the same standard that you're asking for 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:35.800 that if someone says that you're offensive, that you're not 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.600 doing the civic discourse that CNN should kick you off. 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:40.800 I'm not worried about you and that happening to you 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.719 in the present regime, but I am worried about other 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:43.359 people in this build. 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:43.920 Two things we're not. 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:48.440 We don't fall under the same uh statutory regime. AB 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:50.600 I expect to get fired every day. This is a 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:53.400 tough business. And if I were Jimmy Kimmel, I mean, 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:55.760 I'm surprised that a guy who once wore blackface and 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.359 calls large breasted women to jump on trampolines lasted this 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.359 long in the media business to begin with, he was 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.240 long past his cell date and the fact that he 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:05.879 couldn't realize that and was going down this road of 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.240 partisan hackery being unfunny demon. 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:14.600 That's a conversation on CNN yesterday with Scott Jennings, usually 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:18.280 the lone Republican, and it says some uh exciting stuff 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.600 now and then about getting canceled or booted off the air, 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:26.480 And they were reacting to Jimmy Kimmel's show being indefinitely 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.200 suspended as he off forever. Will he be back soon, 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.919 I don't know, But ABC Disney made the decision to 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.800 yank him because of some things he said on Monday Night. 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:37.480 I know, I know, I know, I know the FCC stuff. 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:39.520 I'll get into the details of all this in a second. 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:41.600 I'm just trying to set this up before I get 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:46.200 into the weeds. How about the whole We'll play the 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:47.800 whole long clip. I don't even know if I've heard 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:49.639 the whole. This is a minute worth of what he 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:52.480 said Monday night. That really became the focal point. 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:55.320 He had some new lows over the weekend, with the 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:59.240 Magga Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.720 Charlie Kirk is anything other than one of them, and 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:05.280 everything they can to score political points from it. In 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:08.520 between the finger pointing, there was grieving. On Friday, the 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:11.000 White House flew the flags at half staff, which got 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:14.679 some criticism, but on a human level, you can see 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:16.720 how hard the President is taking this. 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:18.800 I've adults just have a lot of your friend. 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:22.120 Charlie Kirk asked sir personally, how are you holding up 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:23.640 for the last day and a half serve? 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:25.920 I think very good. And by the way, right there, 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.119 you see all the trucks. They just started construction of 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:31.880 the new ball room for the White House, which is. 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:32.960 Something they've been trying to. 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.119 Get, as you know, for about one hundred and fifty years, 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:36.240 and it's. 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:36.879 Going to be a beauty. 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:41.399 Yes, he's at the fourth stage of grief construction. 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:46.200 There's demolition construction. 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.080 This is not how an adult griefs the murder of 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:52.000 somebody called a friend. This is how a four year 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:53.440 old mourns a goldfish. 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:58.320 Okay, So part of me wonders if Trump could even hear. 0:19:58.160 --> 0:19:59.040 The reporter. 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:07.359 During that aside that that tone Monday night. You know 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:09.840 that we're for four days away from that now, but 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.760 Monday night, you know that that's a that's a pretty 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:17.960 snarky tone. You don't get fired for snarky tones, or 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:20.160 you can get fired for snarky tones if you're uh, 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:22.800