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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and

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Speaker 1: Getti and he Armstrong and Yetty. So this hour, in

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Speaker 1: case you haven't heard what Jimmy Kimmel actually said on

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Speaker 1: Monday Night, we'll play that for you. There's some great

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Speaker 1: writing by Mark Halprin today about laying out all the

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Speaker 1: different angles of the whole thing. Maybe you'd like to

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Speaker 1: actually hear what the FCC chair said that kicked this

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Speaker 1: whole thing off. So we'll cover that story pretty thoroughly.

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Speaker 1: A little bit later in the hour, we want to

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Armstrong and Getty Show. Nope, no yet,

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Speaker 1: you're waving your arm Michael. He can just tell me

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Speaker 1: on the microphone what seems to be the problem.

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Speaker 2: Nothing.

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Speaker 1: Well, Hanson was talking to him on the phone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well that's weird.

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Speaker 1: So Hanson was talking to him on the phone in

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Speaker 1: a different room. You can't talk to him on the

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Speaker 1: phone here, all right, we'll figure it out. Can you

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Speaker 1: turn Katie's microphone on if you get a chance. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm being censored, yes, yes, you've been silenced for things

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Speaker 1: you said about Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, no, maybe things I said

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Speaker 4: to Jo Jimmy Kimmel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding. So the long and short of the

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Speaker 1: take on Jimmy Kimmel for us is I just saw

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Speaker 1: a piece of somebody else wrote they stole they stole

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Speaker 1: my idea. There are like five different reasons Jimmy Kimmel

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Speaker 1: is not on the air last night or tonight. Part

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Speaker 1: of it is the FCC pressure, but part of it

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Speaker 1: is the ratings. Part of it is a merger that's

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Speaker 1: going on. Part of it is the unique political moment

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Speaker 1: that is Charlie Kirk being assassinated and people being very

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Speaker 1: sensitive to it. You got to mix all of those

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Speaker 1: things in. Part of it is the expense of his

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Speaker 1: show and how much revenue it was bringing in or not.

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Speaker 1: All of those things factor in, Like if he had

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Speaker 1: big ratings and was making lots of money, he could

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Speaker 1: have said what he said and survived it. So you

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Speaker 1: need kind of all the elements end up where it

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Speaker 1: ended up. But I still do not like the FCC

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Speaker 1: commissioner threatening licenses and everything over content. That is that

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Speaker 1: is no good and no road to go down. So

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Speaker 1: I need to either go on with this Jimmy Kimmel stuff,

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Speaker 1: or do we think we're gonna have our guest? Do

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Speaker 1: we know? I'll make a decision one way or the other.

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Speaker 3: I was told we're going to have him.

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Speaker 1: We're going to have him. Oh well, I guess now

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Speaker 1: I'll do a little soft shoe dance until we get

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Speaker 1: our guest. Did Wow?

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Speaker 3: I didn't know you could soft shoot? Look at you go?

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Speaker 1: And I'm in cowboy boots?

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Speaker 3: Are you really well? You're always in cowboy goods?

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Speaker 1: Pretty much?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael, how are you doing? This is where I'm

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Speaker 3: hanging in there.

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Speaker 1: We're hoping to talk to this guy, Thane Rose, wrote Rosenbaum,

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Speaker 1: who I'll set it all up and then hope we

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Speaker 1: get him. He's a CBS News legal alndlist and I

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Speaker 1: want to talk to about TikTok because he's delving into

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Speaker 1: the details on that. There is the belief that there

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Speaker 1: is some sort of deal that is going to allow

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Speaker 1: TikTok to continue in the United States of America, and uh,

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Speaker 1: that's going to be the same TikTok that you know

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Speaker 1: and love, just under American owners, or if it's going

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Speaker 1: to be an American company, but with a completely different

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Speaker 1: algorithm that you might not dignare as much. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the whole reason TikTok people love TikTok so much is

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Speaker 1: that I've heard from people that are on TikTok that

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Speaker 1: consider it like the great the greatest algorithm's out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but YouTube, what Facebook does and Instagram and all that

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Speaker 1: TikTok to feed you things that you like. I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine what that must be like, because like Instagram reels,

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Speaker 1: if I if I go on that thing at all,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm there for half an hour. Yeah, it's just

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Speaker 1: I go sure, I've never seen this clip of Bob

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Speaker 4: I watched a pretty fascinating well part of a documentary.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't take the kid anymore, but it was on Netflix,

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Speaker 3: You know, we'd like to donate to you.

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Speaker 4: So he put his PayPal account on his bio of

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Speaker 4: his Twitter earth I'm sorry on his TikTok page overnight

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Speaker 5: And people are just sending him money because he's cute, yep,

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Speaker 5: because they think he's good looking. And I'm sitting there going, man,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he would he would go on there and

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Speaker 3: They'd show up at his door the next day.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that I'm obsessed. Yeah, that is really strange. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we would like to welcome Thane Rosenbaum to the show

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Speaker 1: Now CBS News Legal. Anna, sorry, we had so much

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Speaker 1: trouble technical difficulties getting on. So what is going on

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Speaker 1: with TikTok? Is it going to this in the United States?

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Speaker 1: And is it going to be the same algorithm.

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Speaker 6: So jacket we we won't know for another ninety days.

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Speaker 6: This is now the fourth attempt to stave off forcing

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Speaker 6: TikTok to end operations in the United States. Remember this

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Speaker 6: started with legislation during the Biden administration that essentially had

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Speaker 6: a you know, we're not interested in social media companies

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Speaker 1: That's a reasonable stance in my opinions.

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Speaker 6: when in fact, Byke Dance did have relationships with the

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Speaker 6: could refuse a request, you know. It's like the Chinese

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Speaker 1: Like the father. You don't the request.

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Speaker 6: So if they had asked for something, they would have

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Speaker 6: said yes. So the Biden administration said, look, you know,

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Speaker 6: you either sell yourself to an independent corporation or you

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Speaker 6: but apparently it's not just images of people dancing with

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Speaker 6: their cats. There are, in fact, small businesses all over

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Speaker 6: marketing technique. So there was a movement among American businesses

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Speaker 6: This is how we could be. We need TikTok. So

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Speaker 6: of a consortium of venture capital companies, private equity, and

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Speaker 6: That's a requirement, and will extend the deadline for ninety days,

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Speaker 1: So, uh, do you have TikTok on your phone? No? No,

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Speaker 6: What it is. But Jack, Jack, if you'll remember, you

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Speaker 6: had trouble calling me. Yeah, well I didn't personally, but

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Speaker 6: so I'm not and I'm not the right guy.

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Speaker 1: Do you not have TikTok because you're worried it's a

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Speaker 1: Chinese data harvesting tool. No, not really, you're just not

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Speaker 6: I'm I'm a writer by trade, and I just don't

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Speaker 6: And I worked for CBS Radio. I don't, you know,

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Speaker 6: I don't I don't focus. I don't need videos all

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I understand completely. The only reason I ever

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Speaker 6: But it's even worse than that, Jack, because if they

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Speaker 6: we're really learning, which is really distressing and it raises

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Speaker 6: First Amendment issues and other regulatory issues, is that most

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So that's where it's worse than being entertained by silly videos.

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Speaker 6: It's that algorithms that can easily be manipulated are tailor

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Speaker 6: So that's really what national security means. It doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 6: that you're going to mind data that tells you everything

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Speaker 6: kind of stuff we believe in. How easy it is

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Speaker 1: Just give us a video or shade news stories a

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Speaker 6: Exactly right as I'm saying about, you know, tailoring news

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Speaker 6: Jack Armstrong never sees a.

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Speaker 1: Story about this, right, he.

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Speaker 6: Cannot see a story about this because he's the kind

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Speaker 6: of guy that will it'll, it'll, he'll talk about it

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Speaker 6: on a show. So you're saying, that's the kind of manipulation.

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Speaker 6: And you know, remember the social media companies are protected.

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Speaker 6: The government doesn't can't interfere with their First Amendment right.

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Speaker 6: So if it TikTok is an American company, if it

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Speaker 6: becomes one, the government really can't regulate it because they're saying, look,

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Speaker 1: Or what not the public right. My final question you're

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Speaker 1: c NBC reported the other day that the algorithm was

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Speaker 6: You're the only radio guy that I've talked to the

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Speaker 1: Right, We've made a song about Jack Armstrong my precious diamond.

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Speaker 1: All my kisses for you, Jack, and then a bunch

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Speaker 1: Why don't you write to me every day? If you're

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Speaker 3: Well, and we went through how these things work.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with my dearest rose Jack. I got

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Speaker 4: And sweet rose Jack, in order to keep my testicles,

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Speaker 8: Scot I'm not going to tell you anything you don't

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Speaker 1: That's a conversation on CNN yesterday with Scott Jennings, usually

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Speaker 2: I think very good. And by the way, right there,

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Speaker 7: At the conduct that has taken place by Jimmy Kimmel,

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Speaker 7: These companies can find ways to change conduct, to take

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Speaker 1: The other element of it is Kimmel's ratings, like all

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Speaker 1: late night ratings have gone down, down, down, down. He

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Speaker 1: had made the decision a long time ago, is I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna pick one side and demonize the other side. So

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Speaker 1: he cut out half of America. There are a lot

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Speaker 1: of ABC stations in Red America, lots of them whose

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Speaker 1: audience have no interest in watching that show, and the

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Speaker 1: people who own it in that town know it that

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Speaker 1: that show's just a dead spot for them because nobody

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Speaker 1: in their audience in where they live is going to

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Speaker 1: watch the dang thing. And they've been airing into all

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Speaker 1: these years. We'll get to the new reality here in

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Speaker 1: just a second. But so some of those stations said

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Speaker 1: we're gonna drop Kimmel. They've got their own viewers to

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Speaker 1: deal with. And then there's part of a deal merger

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Speaker 1: buyout thingy that's happening with ABC and a bunch of

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Speaker 1: affiliates and all that sort of thing that can get

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Speaker 1: hung up if the FCC jumps in. There's just a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of elements here. I understand some of my

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Speaker 1: favorite conservative pundits are only concerned about the FC what

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Speaker 1: the FCC commissioner said, because you're getting to free speech territory.

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Speaker 1: And I understand that too. I just think it's worth

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Speaker 1: pointing out that there's a bunch of elements involved. I

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Speaker 1: think if Kimmel's ratings were good, even if he said

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Speaker 1: these outlandish things, he would have been safe. His ratings

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Speaker 1: are not good. Oh and by the way, that thing

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Speaker 1: he's saying is ridiculous that the guy's clearly maga. MAGA

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Speaker 1: is trying to make it seem like this guy isn't maga.

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Speaker 1: This shooter, he's clearly not MAGA. I mean, that's just

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Speaker 1: a nuts position. I don't think you should get booted

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Speaker 1: off there for having a nuts position. But that's a

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Speaker 1: nuts position again, unless your owner thinks you should get

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Speaker 1: booed off. These are completely different things, whether the government's

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Speaker 1: telling you should leave or your owner thinks, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I don't think is good for our audience anymore. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: those are different things.

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Speaker 4: A lot of the Sinclair stations I'm seeing are going

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Speaker 4: to be airing a Charlie Kirk special in Jimmy Kimmel's

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Speaker 4: time slot on Friday. That's interesting, which I'm taking a

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Speaker 4: lot of joy from.

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Speaker 1: So Mark Alpern wrote a really long piece about this,

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Speaker 1: and I just picked out some parts of it. The

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Speaker 1: complaint from the left is that it's very straightforward. A

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Speaker 1: comedian is out because politics collide with television, but that

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Speaker 1: completely allides a second reality. For years, broadcast networks shoved

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Speaker 1: a one sided cultural sermon, and that's what it was,

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Speaker 1: a sermon into living rooms and told the other half

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Speaker 1: of the country to smile through it. ABC ran two

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Speaker 1: daily hours, The View and Kimmel that treated Trump with

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Speaker 1: unrelieved hostility and insultingly treated Trump voters as a punchline.

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Speaker 1: If you're looking for reasons, tens of millions migrated into

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Speaker 1: the former president's camp steady. That steady contempt is perhaps

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Speaker 1: as good an exhibit a as you will find. That's

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Speaker 1: just a reality. In my opinion, they are clueless. The

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Speaker 1: culture war is no longer a one way battle for

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Speaker 1: decad aids. The left held the megaphone late night award

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Speaker 1: shows prestige dramas. Oh that's right, all your dramas that

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Speaker 1: have been on for years that were always so far left,

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Speaker 1: whether you're watching you know, Knots of Landing or Dynasty

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Speaker 1: or whatever it was. Over the years, I always had

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Speaker 1: this left bent to them. Streaming algorithms, the rights tools

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Speaker 1: were talk radio on a few corners of cable news.

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Speaker 1: But this is a different time. It requires an entertainment

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Speaker 1: industry that remembers it is a business, not a ballot

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Speaker 1: initiative or a propaganda operation. You want the broadest audience

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Speaker 1: in a fractured country, try something radical. Respect them, not

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Speaker 1: with forced neutrality or merely both side scripts, but with

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Speaker 1: a simple rule, no nightly contempt for the people who

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Speaker 1: pay the bills. If Disney wants to keep Kimmel, it can.

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Speaker 1: It just has to own the choice and carry the cost.

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Speaker 1: If it wants to win back affiliates and viewers, it

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Speaker 1: might ask why the mock the rubs format feels tired

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Speaker 1: at best and hostile at most outside of your hostal

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Speaker 1: zip codes. And then finally this the mousehouse topper, that's

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Speaker 1: what he calls Eiger, the guy who runs Disney ABC

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Speaker 1: more than most Hollywood liberals knows what time it is

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Speaker 1: willing to outrage many of his own employees and constituents

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Speaker 1: to try to stay one step ahead of the new reality.

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Speaker 1: We are watching something unprecedented set in motion by both

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Speaker 1: Trump's reelection and the assassination of Charlie Kirk. It is

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Speaker 1: possible Kimmel will return to the air, and he certainly

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Speaker 1: won't leave the metaphoric stage without a fight. But we

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Speaker 1: have not seen the last of this whirlwind. As much

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Speaker 1: social and political change as Kirk manifested in life, more

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Speaker 1: upheaval is clearly being caused by his death. That is

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Speaker 1: Mark Alprin writing to the point that and he does

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Speaker 1: have paragraphs in there about the FCC leaning on these stations,

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Speaker 1: which is a part of the mix. But there's no

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Speaker 1: getting around the fact that d'aul the era of the

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Speaker 1: left owning all of the culture institutions and being able to,

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Speaker 1: you know, talk to us the way they talk to us,

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Speaker 1: and we had to put up with it. It's just over.

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Speaker 1: Audiences have got other things to do. They're going to boycott.

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Speaker 1: There's all kinds of different things that can happen. Now.

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Speaker 1: The reason I hate, and I'll say it for the

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Speaker 1: fifth time, but I think it's important enough. The reason

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Speaker 1: I hate the idea of the FCC leaning on any

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Speaker 1: ABC affiliates for carrying Kimmel is because it's not always

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Speaker 1: going to be Trump or a Republican president. There's going

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Speaker 1: to be a Democrat president, Gavin Newsom. You could absolutely

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Speaker 1: picture Gavin Newsom putting in an FCC commissioner that comes

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Speaker 1: out and says talk radio is causing division in this country.

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Speaker 1: The latest violence, and there will always be some violence

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Speaker 1: to point to the latest violence is a direct result

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Speaker 1: of out of control right wing talk radio. And we're

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Speaker 1: going to take a long look at the licenses of

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Speaker 1: these stations who air shows like and they'll name a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of them, maybe even including Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to live in that world either.

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Speaker 1: So that I think is the totality of the whole story.

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Speaker 1: Oh Kimmel is a smug ass hat, amen to that.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's hard to take and he's just

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Speaker 1: so fake, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, with the crying and the you know, that whole

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Speaker 4: spiel he went.

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Speaker 3: On after Trump got elected this last time around for

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Speaker 3: the women and the children, the sick, and it's like,

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Speaker 3: just shut up, Shut up. Do you want to hear

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Speaker 3: a clip from Johnny Carson talking about Late Night?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to get this on. This is Johnny

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Speaker 1: Carson on sixty minutes back in the day.

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Speaker 11: Oh tell me the last time that Jack Benny red

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Speaker 11: Skelton Benny comedian used his show to do serious issues.

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Speaker 11: That's not what I'm there for.

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Speaker 4: Can't they see that?

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Speaker 11: But you and I do they think that just because

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Speaker 11: you have it Tonight's show, that you must deal in

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Speaker 11: serious issues. That's a danger. It's a real danger. Once

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Speaker 11: you start that, do you start to get that self

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Speaker 11: important feeling. That's what you say has great import and

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Speaker 11: you know, strangely enough, you could use that show as

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Speaker 11: a form you could sway people, and I don't think

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Speaker 11: you should. Asn't entertainment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, Kimmel and Colbert have made a lot of

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Speaker 1: money for themselves and for a while, quite a bit

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Speaker 1: of money from the networks. But that's over. You stuck

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Speaker 1: your thumb in the eye of probably more than half

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Speaker 1: the country, yep. And then you got the competition from

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Speaker 1: all these different things. You just slice the pie down

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Speaker 1: to the part that you know. I'm sorry, Jimmy Kimmel

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Speaker 1: and Stephen Colbert, nobody, there aren't enough people to give

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Speaker 1: a crap about your sermons. I thought that was a

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Speaker 1: good term, your sermons every night about what's wrong with

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Speaker 1: those of us who don't agree with you. That there's

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Speaker 1: no money in it. There's not enough money in it

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Speaker 1: to support your very very expensive shows, that's for certain.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, So Jimmy Fallon. Good for him. He by

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Speaker 1: far tried to stay out of one sided politics the most,

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Speaker 1: and he's the one left standing. He might really benefit

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Speaker 1: from this because if he ends up being the only

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Speaker 1: talk show Joe thinks Kimmel's coming back. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I believe that or not, but if Fallon ends

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Speaker 1: up being the only talk show, he'll get, you know,

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Speaker 1: the big star promoting the movie every time because there's

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Speaker 1: no other show to go on. Right, it's just so annoying.

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Speaker 3: Well, and I liked to what Carson said there. I mean, like,

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Speaker 3: that's not what they're there for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, such a different era though in all kinds of

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Speaker 1: different ways. For one thing, Johnny Carson, I forget what

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Speaker 1: the number was. I looked this up after Colbert lost

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Speaker 1: his job, but I think it was twenty percent Carson's

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Speaker 1: show alone was twenty percent of NBC's revenue. Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: I mean so he was a big flip and deal

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Speaker 1: and his ratings were huge, and so he wanted to

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Speaker 1: talk to as much of America as he could. Now

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Speaker 1: you got it sliced into a tiny little group of

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Speaker 1: people agree with your whining sermons every single night, and

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Speaker 1: those shows are actually losing money. So it's just a

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Speaker 1: different things. And came up with a great idea on

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Speaker 1: how I should handle my Ukrainian girlfriend email pen pal.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you about that next.

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Speaker 6: Armstrong.

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Speaker 1: And so we talk a lot about scams online scams

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Speaker 1: here on the radio show, and they get hot or whatever.

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Speaker 1: This is. This is an old one. The somebody who

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Speaker 1: as you're especially for men, I suppose. I guess it

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Speaker 1: works both ways. Yeah, I've heard it work both ways

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Speaker 1: men and women. Somebody gets your email address from who

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Speaker 1: knows where, because we've all been hacked ten different ways

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Speaker 1: by different The experience or whatever company got hacked and

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Speaker 1: all your information got out, so so many people have

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Speaker 1: your email address. So somebody in Russia, Iran or whatever

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Speaker 1: has been sending me these emails claiming to be some

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Speaker 1: young Ukrainian hottie who has fallen in love with me

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Speaker 1: without having having met me or seen me or whatever.

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Speaker 4: And I like, I like Michael Agelo's suggesting that it's

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Speaker 4: Joel prank on you anyway.

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Speaker 1: And so she'd been emailing me and I finally responded yesterday.

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Speaker 1: And I've been waiting for the Where are they trying

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Speaker 1: to get money out of me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the crisis.

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Speaker 1: So she's had links. I haven't clicked on the links.

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Speaker 1: She's now unhappy that I'm not emailing her back enough. Hi,

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Speaker 1: my dearest sweetheart, Jack, Thank you so much for your

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Speaker 1: wonderful letter. My response was was my response yesterday. It

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Speaker 1: was very short. There's something like nice talking.

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Speaker 4: To you, something about you've been thinking about her all day?

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Speaker 1: Right right right? I woke up thinking about you. I think, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was it, And she said it's a bot. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for your wonderful letter. Your letter was

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Speaker 1: a real present for me to do.

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Speaker 6: Jack.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you write me every day? If you're thinking

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Speaker 1: about me? It would be impossible for us to build

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Speaker 1: a happy relationship if we do not talk to each

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Speaker 1: other every day. If he did not answer my letters,

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Speaker 1: my sweet precious diamond Rose, or all these different things.

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Speaker 1: She calls me. She sounds that is true. Oh my god, yes,

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Speaker 1: clingiest of all. But so I've been waiting for the

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Speaker 1: Uh my landlord says he's going to kick me out

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Speaker 1: if I don't pay my rent. And I just lost

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Speaker 1: my job. If you could just send me one month's rent,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I can find a new job. But my darling,

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Speaker 1: love sweet Rose, I you know I love you so much,

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Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. But she hasn't asked for money yet. Well, Hanson,

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Speaker 1: our executive producer, came up with the idea I should

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Speaker 1: ask her for money first. That is which I think

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Speaker 1: is really hilaricous.

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Speaker 3: That's the winner, right there?

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Speaker 1: Did email her back? I know you're in war torn

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Speaker 1: Ukraine and I'm here in perfectly comfortable United States of America.

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Speaker 3: Oh, she already told you she was safe.

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Speaker 1: Remember, I don't know if she's fine. What do I

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Speaker 1: need money for? Have I been thrown in jail? Do

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Speaker 1: I have a health problem? Did my car break down?

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Speaker 1: What should I tell her? I need money for?

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Speaker 3: You want to come see her?

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Speaker 8: All right?

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Speaker 1: I want to come see you, But now is a

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Speaker 1: bad time for me. I didn't have the money. If

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Speaker 1: you can just send me eight hundred dollars. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: I could come see you and my darling love Princess

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Speaker 1: could be together forever.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, please do this.

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Speaker 1: See how it goes.

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Speaker 11: Well, there's Jocko.

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Speaker 3: And Michael Langelo there.

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Speaker 11: My radio, so let's hear their finals before they have

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Speaker 11: to go.

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Speaker 1: That's creepy.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I hate that one. I hate that.

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Speaker 1: Here's your host for final thoughts.

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Speaker 7: Me.

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Speaker 1: Let's get a final thought from our executive director, Michaelangelou.

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Speaker 1: Press on the button.

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Speaker 8: Sorry, you know, I'm picturing a drunk Joe Getty's sitting

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Speaker 8: around a computer with his golf buddy's saying, yeah, I've

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Speaker 8: done this for years.

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Speaker 1: He falls for it every time.

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Speaker 2: Look at this.

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Speaker 4: Guys called him a precious diamond and they all just

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Speaker 4: start laughing.

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Speaker 1: That's so good. Oh man, Uh, there is uh Katie

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Speaker 1: Katie the news Lady, Katie Green. What's your final thought?

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Speaker 4: I really hope that this flip that you're gonna pull

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Speaker 4: with these emails works out. And I really want some screenshots.

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Speaker 4: We need to make a whole thing about this on

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Speaker 4: the website and on social media, all of it.

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Speaker 1: I do wonder how the bot or the hacker or

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Speaker 1: whoever it is is going to respond. I asked them

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Speaker 1: for money. What do we see now? This has never

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Speaker 1: happened before. I'm going camping with my son this weekend,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not much of a camper. I love camping.

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Speaker 1: I just I just I don't know. I've never dedicated

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Speaker 1: time to figuring out how to do it or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I mean. We got a tent, we got a cooler,

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Speaker 1: we got a little cookstove. I got some Hamburger buns

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Speaker 1: and some Hamburger. Do I need anything else? Flashlight, sleeping bags? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: hoping not to get attacked by bears. I'll let you

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Speaker 1: know how it goes. On Monday. Armstrong and Getty wrapping

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Speaker 1: up another grueling four hour workday. So many people to thank.

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Speaker 1: That'd be everybody who works on the show and everybody

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Speaker 1: who listens. You should go to our website Armstrong and

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Speaker 1: Getty dot com, or you can buy swag and see

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Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff we were talking about on

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Speaker 1: hot links. And I hope your darling Diamond Rose sends

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Speaker 1: you a lovely email this weekend. Also see you Monday.

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Speaker 1: God bless American. I'm strong and get take There so many.

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Speaker 11: Great moments on today's Armstrong and Getty Show.

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Speaker 6: You know that I've got plenty of flocks somewhere and

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Speaker 6: who knows what.

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Speaker 1: They are, because they have this annual event here which

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Speaker 1: which for journalistic purposes I need to go visit, which

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Speaker 1: is called Octoberfest. So do you have TikTok on your phone?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 1: No, me, neither, and I can't.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 6: I vaguely know what it is.

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty