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Speaker 1: Guys, I'm so grateful I get to do this podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to all the people who listen, watch, critique, enjoy,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. Why am I out of breath? I walked

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Speaker 1: up one flight of steps. My cardiovascular health is in shambles.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna address that this summer. But you know what

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Speaker 1: else I'm addressing eating at the appropriate times. I usually

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Speaker 1: of the day, and now people are saying that's bad

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Speaker 1: for you, defunct. So I've been I've been healthy ish

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Speaker 1: or trying to get healthy. I just came back from

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Speaker 1: Paris and ate a lot of croissants, croissants whatever, ate

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Speaker 1: a lot of those. Started drinking caffeine. I think we

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Speaker 1: know from the podcast. I'm not good with that, but

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Speaker 1: I'm doing okay anyway. I also want to give a

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Speaker 1: shout out too because of what I'm saying. Hard boiled eggs.

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Speaker 1: These have been in my pocket all day. What's the

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Speaker 1: face forward. There's nothing to be scared of. They're cooked.

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Speaker 1: They're cooked, hard boiled, hard blood eggs. There's nothing to

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Speaker 1: be scared. One did crack a little bit. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: unpeel this motherfucker and eat it just like that, No salt,

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Speaker 1: no pepper, and a pinch. A hard boiled egg, is

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Speaker 1: that girl? Okay? Hard boiled? Put him in the water

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Speaker 1: while I was in the shower, was like, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: eat today. I ate one. These two are left. Did

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Speaker 1: you know there's only six grams of protein in an egg?

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Speaker 1: I learned that a couple of years ago, and I

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Speaker 1: six grams. Anyway, I love a hard boiled egg and

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Speaker 1: in a pinch. And you didn't even know. You didn't

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Speaker 1: even know they were in my blazer. Did anybody in

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Speaker 1: here know they were in my blazer? No one knew

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Speaker 1: you could have a hard boiled egg in your pocket,

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Speaker 1: and people are none the wiser, and that way you

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Speaker 1: always got a snack on you. Anyway, I'm gonna take

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Speaker 1: this blazer off my guest, my next guest, he's not

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Speaker 1: egg filled blazer. It's a good episode. I think it's

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Speaker 1: every episode. It's like a waiter at a restaurant. You go,

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Speaker 1: and you ask about two more and they're like it's good,

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Speaker 1: and you're like you get the sense that this person

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Speaker 1: this episode's gonna be good. I've caught my breath. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've caught my breath. I'm gonna take the blazer off

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Speaker 1: because I'm getting a little toasty.

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna talk to Chris Maloney. Stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: Have you been doing press all week?

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Speaker 2: A little bit? Okay, not much? Tomorrow is the big day.

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Speaker 1: Do you meditate?

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Speaker 2: Not on a regular you do? I do get my

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Speaker 2: meditation through physical exertion, through you know, working out or

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Speaker 2: you know. I'm a water skier. Every time you are yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: come back off the water, and all you know, I

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Speaker 2: just do two runs. I'm a different person. I believe

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Speaker 1: Water's crazy though, water is Yeah, I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's also the action. Maybe it's akin

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Speaker 2: welcome to Waterskill weekly. To me, though, it's it's this

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Speaker 1: You just that I've calmed down. I've had a little

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Speaker 1: Do you do drink caffeine way too much coffee every day?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I uh. In fact, I'm one of these guys.

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Speaker 2: I researched best home espresso machines. I've researched it too.

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Speaker 1: I don't even really drink coffee. Oh, and I researched

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Speaker 2: And then I researched beans. Yeah. Mine is like in

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Speaker 1: I saw because I not that I saw at your house,

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Speaker 1: but I mean I I saw when I was doing

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Speaker 2: That is that's why I didn't buy it.

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Speaker 1: I go, it's gonna be an Apple watch for you.

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Speaker 2: You're a three hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I mean I was really down a

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Speaker 1: what I was about to spend. So every day you

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Speaker 1: have a coffee, multiple espressoes, multiple Come when did you

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Speaker 2: Late twenty What made you start exams at the University

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Speaker 1: I have tried not to become addicted to caffeine, and

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Speaker 2: You can get headaches when you don't drink it.

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Speaker 1: Today I was getting a headache because I because I

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Speaker 2: You're gonna list my credits?

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Speaker 1: I won't if you don't want me to. I'm always

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Speaker 2: I do you want to hear it? Okay?

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Speaker 1: So they only listed to credits here.

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Speaker 2: That's what I came here for.

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Speaker 1: You came to hear your credits listed. And honey, there's

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Speaker 1: two of them.

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Speaker 2: I cut out the fat. Okay.

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Speaker 1: My next guest is an actor who you know from

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Speaker 1: the hit series Law and Order and the Netflix movie

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Speaker 1: Little Brother. It's Christopher Maloney. Do you like Chris or Christopher?

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Speaker 1: Everyone calmed, sit down, you'll get the autographs later.

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Speaker 2: They like this.

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Speaker 1: It's embarrassing. It's so fucking embarrassing. Guys act like we

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Speaker 2: Wake up you yeah, wake up.

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Speaker 1: Chris, Christopher, Christopher Christopher. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: As an introduction, that's what I use christ and that

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Speaker 1: Then once we get familiar, it's Chris. Do you have

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Speaker 1: any nicknames?

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Speaker 2: Malones?

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Speaker 1: Malones? How long does one have to be in your

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Speaker 2: And everything is organic in that regard, Okay, you know

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Speaker 2: It's like the needle on the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had someone called me eggy and I was like,

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Speaker 2: And maybe that's me too, that maybe it's just the

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Speaker 2: it's like a mutual did you just didn't feel right right.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel ready to call you malones. Have so

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Speaker 2: I don't know where is that surprising.

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Speaker 1: I watch I used to watch you. You were like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my new stick. And this has only happened in

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Speaker 1: It's the nicest way you could be called old. You

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Speaker 2: No, And if anything, you know the how I truthfully,

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Speaker 2: started out in this biz just wanting a job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know, how do you how do you

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Speaker 1: Of course there's gratitude there, but same Okay, you.

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Speaker 2: Know it's the eighty percent that you're like no, and

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Speaker 2: And so you know, being an ally being in the

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Speaker 2: because you know, it's if we do our things right

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Speaker 2: and conscientiously. You know, you're in the trenches, you're you're

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Speaker 2: That's how it strikes me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which makes sense. It's I I think we did

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Speaker 1: a movie together, the one I mentioned. Maybe that's why

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so do to mean we're shooting it's a commercial.

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Speaker 2: How about this. We're shooting, you know, footage here in

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Speaker 1: Were you scared you were gonna get robbed? Fifty five

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Speaker 1: Do you smoke weed? You've already said terrible things and

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Speaker 2: I am Chris.

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Speaker 1: How often just to go to sleep, enjoy a meal?

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Speaker 1: Do you get nervous ever anymore? About anything?

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Speaker 1: You and you and someone else were the building. I

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Speaker 1: You are the reason. Everyone's blaming someone else for that

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, a motor kid as well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you shut down the watch party outside of

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Speaker 1: I'm supposed to start by asking you, who or what

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Speaker 1: It can be earnest, it can be okay, great, my wife, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Anyone who has ever believed in me that includes me,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did you have a backup plan when you were

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Speaker 2: For a microsecond, I was going to uh, I was

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Speaker 2: half inch quarter inch on the ground, and the waitress goes,

437
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 2: that's them. That's them right to me and him go running,

438
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 2: go bomb down Sullivan Street or Thompson and grab grab

439
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 2: the girls say, hey, you gotta you know what's going on?

440
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta pay your bill. Oh no, that

441
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: is I was in a car screeches up right, and

442
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: I'm distracted and one gets away. They both get away

443
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: and they jump into the car and it's their boyfriends.

444
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: Oh and so I get onto the passenger side door.

445
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: It's closed, and they're trying to roll up the window

446
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: and I'm like holding it down, and I said, get

447
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 2: out of the car, get out of the car. Well,

448
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: the guy starts, The guy starts driving. The girl's punching

449
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 2: me in the face and drinks and that's when and

450
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: then the guy in the backseat goes slam him against,

451
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,719
Speaker 2: hit him against you know, hit him against the car,

452
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 2: the park cars. Yeah, he's going to try and crush

453
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: me against the park cars. And I'm skitching along because

454
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: it's fresh snow. Yeah, you know, probably lasted all three seconds.

455
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: But in that moment of you know, it starts going

456
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: and you're you're wondering, when can I let go without

457
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 2: being caught under the back wheels and not whatever was

458
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: I did let go finally freshly slapped, touched around and yeah,

459
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 2: I just remember going, what the fuck are you thinking?

460
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,719
Speaker 2: What are you doing? Yeah? I mean probably for a

461
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 2: bill of forty five dollars or something, which.

462
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: Is so crazy, Like the boyfriends are like, we're not

463
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: gonna buy you drinks, but we will pick you up

464
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: once you run, you know.

465
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that was that was the stick.

466
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: That's the stick, yeah, planned always yeah, that's crazy.

467
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. But other than that, yeah, I had to do

468
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 2: a guy put down a guy with a sidekick one time.

469
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 2: I'd taken taekwondo in college and I went, oh, it

470
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: actually works. You know. He tore my shirt. I was

471
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 2: trying to be nice and trying to get him out. Yeah,

472
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: and he was holding onto me and I threw him

473
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 2: to the ground. He had hold onto my shirt. That's

474
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: just great to just get out of here. I would

475
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: not not get out of here. So you had to

476
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: hit him with that sidekick. And it turns out.

477
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: He was right, all right, wow, Chris, you don't Yeah,

478
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: go ahead, get you some water.

479
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 2: Water. I'm fidgeting.

480
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: You're fidgeting, yes, okay, that's okay.

481
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 2: Anxiety.

482
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: I wish I had weed I wish.

483
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: Is anybody I know? I know that motherfucker's holding.

484
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: Oh I was that so weird for you? Do you

485
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: have siblings? Are how many? Where do you fall in

486
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: the lineup?

487
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 2: One of each? One of each? Who came in last?

488
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: You came in last? Okay? Sisters the oldest and.

489
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: Six years older, four years older? Wow?

490
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: Are you guys close?

491
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: Very?

492
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: Have you always been close?

493
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: I think my brother and I went through you know,

494
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: older younger sibling. You know a little of that stuff,

495
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 2: but you know nothing but love and respect, deep respect.

496
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: I have deep respect for my siblings.

497
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: Where does the deep respect come from?

498
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: They are hard working, intelligent people. They're my sister's here,

499
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 2: my sister practicing Catholic, cornerstone of her life. She just

500
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: lost her husband. Uh yeah, teacher Sunday School is a

501
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: social worker helping drug and alcohol addicted women, trying to

502
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 2: get get them back with their families. My brother retired CPA,

503
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: you know, was well thought of, and you know, the

504
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: stickler Stickler and that's where I think, you know, he

505
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: and I that was the the cornerstead of our our problems. Yeah,

506
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: that's that's how Yeah any way, but yeah, and great

507
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: parents and just yeah, they really uh made better what

508
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: they learned from my parents and you know, brought it

509
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: forth to the next generation.

510
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah what what how do you how did you guys

511
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: squash your beef? You and your brother? What do you

512
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: think that moment was?

513
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: Or I just think, at least on my part, just

514
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: and look, maybe he goes, we had no beef and

515
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: that's fine. It was maturing. It was uh taking responsibilities,

516
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: you know, letting things go that don't need to be

517
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: held on to. And well that's it. You just you,

518
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: you take the moment, you take the people, how they

519
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: engage life, how you engage life, that's it. Yeah, growing process, right,

520
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: I think.

521
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: So I didn't used to get along with my brother

522
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: and now we're like the best of friends. It happens.

523
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: But I also think it's like the normal progression of siblings.

524
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: So look, that's true. I just feel it's if you say, yeah,

525
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: we used to, it's healthy. That's it's a nothing bird.

526
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: If it's held on too, then it's like, well, I

527
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: guess something really bad happened.

528
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: Or yeah, you have kids, Chris, right, I do? How

529
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: many too, too?

530
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: What? Girl boy?

531
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: Girl boy? And are they of college?

532
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: Age twenty five, twenty two my son is still in college.

533
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: Okay, oh wow, yeah wow. What is your relationship like

534
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: with them?

535
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: I think great parenting never goes away. Just the the

536
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: issues and how you engage them handle them change. Yeah, obviously,

537
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: because they change and you constantly navigating how much you

538
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: get in their game and how much you're just a

539
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: support system or you stay quiet and let them make

540
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: their own mistakes.

541
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's something that would make you get in their game?

542
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: Were you like, I need a step in here, or

543
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: has that experience already happened.

544
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: In a way? Well, small thing. You know, my son,

545
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: you know, asked my wife if you could get a dog,

546
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: and I went, absolutely not. Now is not the time.

547
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: Now is not the time for a dog. Yeah, twenty

548
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: two is not twenty two is not time for a dog?

549
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: Okay?

550
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: And you said no? Was he mad at you? I

551
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: don't know. I passed it. I told my wife, no

552
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: wife to tell him. Yeah. Yeah, pretend it came from you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

553
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: She's a shrinking violet, and she'll lay down the law

554
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: just nicer.

555
00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. So would you say you're stricter then or then?

556
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: She I think my framework is a little strict only

557
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: because that's how I was brought up. She was brought

558
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: up differently than I. Yeah, where's your wife from Memphis? Okay?

559
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: And you grew up in Virginia, right DC. Did we

560
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: ever talk about that on set or no?

561
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: Who might have touched on it? Baltimore? Yeah, look at us?

562
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: You know did you read about me on your way here?

563
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: You have to remember who? Did you remember who I am?

564
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, of course, Okay, I hiccup for a second.

565
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: You were like somewhere, Oh my god, we starred in

566
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: that movie with those other actors who.

567
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: You don't remember, but if you you'll see them in

568
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: a couple of days.

569
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: As a wrestler and won some comment.

570
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: It's John and Eric, I'll whisper, Yeah, maybe taken John.

571
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: And Air drop the kilo and just write it down

572
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: for me.

573
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: What made you say yes to doing Little Brother?

574
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: I barked out loud when they told me that they

575
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: want you to be John Cena's older brother. Yeah. I

576
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: kind of like looked in the mirror, going really, all right,

577
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah I can do this. Let me do some shoulder

578
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: shrugs and get my neck vigars on. And I just

579
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: really thought I thought it was a great throwback comedy,

580
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: kind of comedy that hasn't been made in a while. Man,

581
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: I thought that. I thought they took risks and I thought,

582
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: you know, they went went for the edgy humor, you know,

583
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: sometimes inappropriate. I was given a lot of those moments.

584
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: I was like, man, you know, I'm agree to going.

585
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 1: All right, let me say this.

586
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: I'm happy to say and I think you know, and

587
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: I think I felt that, you know, we were joking earlier.

588
00:33:55,080 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: But it is a I feel, in certain ways, a

589
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: reaction to this cancel thing that has been running around.

590
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: It's been running around.

591
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: It's rampant.

592
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're coming like, screw I have.

593
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to do this. I'm distracted because the whole

594
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: John Cena's older brother of it all.

595
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 2: And you're going, wait a minute.

596
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: And I get that because I'm like, you're sixty five,

597
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: your skin is so good.

598
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: What do you do? I'll never tell Salmon Spring said

599
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: that to Dove, and I want to.

600
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 1: Contay kamand Dove ageous beauty over here, kamand Dove, Yeah,

601
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: what do you You're not gonna what do you do?

602
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: Do you do? I do nothing. I'm this is a

603
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: you know, that's one of these genetics. Yeah, I mean

604
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: the same thing with the sixty five and looking pretty

605
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: for sixty five. You know, my own man, he was

606
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 2: the same way. I mean up until you know, into

607
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: his late seventies. Wow, it was just like and he

608
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: didn't work out, and you know, he did whatever the

609
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: heck he wanted to do. Yeah, so that's just that's

610
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: the luck of the draw thing. Damn.

611
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, because do you wear sunscreen every day?

612
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 2: Damn?

613
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: You should start just.

614
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I get it, but you know, I

615
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: like a little Sicilian field hand.

616
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: But it's good. You're still gonna get the tan. Just

617
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: the UV ray is getting blocked. Send this to neutrogena.

618
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: See I'm such a proponent. Yes, I mean, anyway you

619
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: do what you want, it's obviously working. But if you want,

620
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: if you want to prolong.

621
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 2: To put down the shield to get underneath me, drop

622
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 2: the shield.

623
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: I'll just dropped the shield.

624
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: Chris. Yeah, all right.

625
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: Well, I think I'm excited for people to see the

626
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: movies much. Yeah. I think it's gonna be silly fun.

627
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to be interested to see how it's received.

628
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: Are you worried a little bit?

629
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, because you know, to guess what people

630
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: like or don't like. That is absolutely not my gift.

631
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 2: I've never had a feel for it. So I subsequently

632
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: I don't really care well because I don't not my job,

633
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: not my prollem.

634
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: Do you read reviews of your work or what people

635
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: have to say about you and your work?

636
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: Ever, I don't search it out if it's presented to me,

637
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: which it more often is than not. I'm happy to

638
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: I don't watch myself. I don't like to watch myself really,

639
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

640
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: Yess why is I don't really love to watch myself either?

641
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: But why is that for you? Because I think it's

642
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: again the patterning that we all have, you know, the

643
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: anxiety thing we were talking about earlier. I think that

644
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: we hold on to the things that we had that

645
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: we feel consciously or not unconsciously, godess to where we are.

646
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: So I've always had a very loud critic in my head,

647
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: which is good because it makes you bulletproof against anybody.

648
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 2: I mean, if someone critiques me, I couldn't give a

649
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: rat ass why because the worst guy is in my head, damn.

650
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter. Man, Yeah, your hack, you're a dealist.

651
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 2: I'm like, first of all, dealist. I'm like, of all

652
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: the important things in life that's on my deal list,

653
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't care about that stuff. So

654
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: I think that comes forward and I have a difficult

655
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: time enjoying the movies, like sitting next to the guy

656
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: who's fucking talking and it's me. I just keep wanting

657
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: to go shut up. Yeah, I know I missed that beat.

658
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: We know, Ah, Chris Is I mean, are you a perfectionist?

659
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that. I think just think I'm a

660
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 2: hard on myself, and I think that that's how I

661
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: motivated myself to push through moments of procrastination or moments

662
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: of inaction or you know, like if I fucked up

663
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: an audition. You know, you ever see Once upon a

664
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: Time in Hollywood? Yep, Leo DiCaprio going into his trailers,

665
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: his trailer after he's fucked up the scene, I was like,

666
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 2: I could not have were entertained because I went, that

667
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: is me that he might as well have compiled the

668
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: best of malones after a horrible audition and just you

669
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: glued him. It was just great.

670
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: Have you where does the harsh critic come from? If

671
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 1: you had to guess fear?

672
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 2: You know, yeah. Look, my father, my father, Uh, my

673
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 2: father was a doctor. And I think this. I'm gonna

674
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 2: say this because I think, I know it just impact,

675
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 2: it meant, it meant a lot to me. He went

676
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 2: to Harvard and so, you know, and I think that

677
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: always has a little bit of aut and it did

678
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 2: to me. And I never felt that was smart enough

679
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: to follow in those footsteps and to be And he

680
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: was a doctor and I think he was considered a

681
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 2: good doctor. And so I mean, you kind of linear

682
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: kind of guy. And then you know, for me to

683
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 2: go off the reservation, for me to a you know,

684
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: there's a big gamble and there's a lot And I

685
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: didn't failure or was uh you know, I want to

686
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: say failure wasn't an option. Yeah, but you know it's.

687
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: Everyone loves to say it's not an option.

688
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,479
Speaker 2: It's an option. Yeah, it could happen. There was gonna

689
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: be the tough guy going, hey it's not an option.

690
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

691
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: A lot of bodies on the road, you know.

692
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see. So you felt a lot of pressure

693
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: to excel at what you do or even just.

694
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: Fear of failure. Yeah you didn't want to, Yeah, you

695
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 2: didn't want to. You didn't want to you didn't want to. Yeah,

696
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 2: and then you start entertaining, Well, if you do, then

697
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: what horrible thought process? Yeah that is?

698
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean what made you want to be an actor?

699
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: Where did it come from? So I know you went

700
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: from radio maybe and then you're like, okay, I'm not

701
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: dynamic enough?

702
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 2: Is what you felt? Well? Yeah, all that happened. And

703
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: I've told this that I was in college and I

704
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: guess I just I didn't know what the fuck I

705
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: was or what I wanted to do. And there were

706
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: a lot of people who were, you know, he's studying

707
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 2: to be a chiropractor or a physical therapist, or you know,

708
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 2: they're going to go into banking. They had these paths

709
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: and I didn't. And I was a solid B plus

710
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: student just couldn't get a's or you know everyone's. I went,

711
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: but I went. I as an elective. I took out

712
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: an acting class and it was the first time in

713
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: my life that I felt that I knew more than

714
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: anyone in the class, and I knew how much I

715
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 2: didn't know, which I thought was really important for me.

716
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 2: And that was it. So I got the bug then,

717
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 2: and then I just decided to go up to New York.

718
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, is there a reason you didn't think like, oh,

719
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to be an athlete.

720
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: You played sports. Yeah, the sport tells you, Okay, you're

721
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: going to be an athlete, do not.

722
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you say more about that, because.

723
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: Well, your your football season ends. Sure, not a letter,

724
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: not a call, oh, not an interest okay? And do

725
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: you know you you know your arm is not particularly dynamic.

726
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: You're not the fleetest of foot, you know, I.

727
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know you were you on

728
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: a team at any point with someone who didn't know

729
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: who was like I'm gonna you you at one point

730
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: during season you thought you were that guy.

731
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: Maybe I had the potential to be a guy.

732
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: Okay, and then after I wasn't even.

733
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: In contention. Yeah, I went to the University of Colorado

734
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: thinking I'll be a walk on. Bro go D three.

735
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: If you want to play football, go to a D

736
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: three school. And even then you're gonna have to pay

737
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: your dues. I mean, it's it's a real journey you

738
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: want to continue your football career. Yeah, And I think

739
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: and I had nightmares for almost a decade for not

740
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: playing football in college.

741
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: For not so you didn't play football, you could take

742
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: me a walk on yeah, I.

743
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: Saw the starting quarterback at University of Colorado. Yeah, he

744
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: was six four. I see. I thought he was a

745
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: d lineman. I thought I saw Okay, I went, oh,

746
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 2: I mean you know, they're just built differently there.

747
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, think about the people with the genetics, not for

748
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: the sport they they play, but then somehow pushed through

749
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: And I'm like, the mind you have to have to

750
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: be like, is it? Oh my gosh, the short basketball

751
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: player from Baltimore. Do you know who I'm talking about,

752
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: Moxy Bos. Yeah, I'm like, you just went for it

753
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: even though the body was telling a different story like that.

754
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: It's a different kind of mental resilience to me.

755
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: But well, I think of Jalen.

756
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: I know that six two. Jalen's six too. I read

757
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: somewhere shorter.

758
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 2: I think that's being.

759
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: Generous, But they lie about athletes, even in college. College

760
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: will be like he's five to ten, it's like five eight, okay,

761
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, so we think he's maybe shorter than six two.

762
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 2: But you know, for him, it's just I've never he's

763
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: a rare mental toughness individual. That's just what I see

764
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: when I feel as though this whole season has perplexed me.

765
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: Because I've rarely seen an individual will his team to

766
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 2: the ultimate win. That's how it always came. All when

767
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: they were down twenty nine points and I'm one of

768
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: the other million people going, you know, well fuck this,

769
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: you know, okay, not too yeah yeah, and that they

770
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 2: just were so resilient. Yeah, that's tough.

771
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: What a team though. I feel like I get the

772
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: sense they also like each other. But you never know,

773
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: but I'm like, I get the sense they like each other.

774
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: It seemed to be a camaraderie, yeah, which I think

775
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: goes a long way. And I heard him say that

776
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: he got rid of social media at some point, at

777
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: least during the playoffs, didn't have it. And he's like,

778
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: no noise, no noise whatsoever. And I'm like, that is important.

779
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: It worked, which is exciting to bear witness too. We'll

780
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: forgive you for that one game you attended where.

781
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: And your police escorts.

782
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: We'll forgive you as the city because they won.

783
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: They won.

784
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: Are you gonna You're not gonna get to go to

785
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: the parade, premiere, press and premiere. I'll see you there.

786
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: I could have been on a flow.

787
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: I could have been on a float. It's not a flex.

788
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 2: It's me.

789
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 1: I wasn't here during I wasn't here for the games.

790
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: I was overseas and so I was just watching overseas

791
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: and in Paris macha with my Parisian macha famous for

792
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: their machas. Yeah, I was. Yeah, And so tonight I

793
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'll get to go to the parade.

794
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: And then it's like, no, you won't. No, you won't

795
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: get to do that either. But it was electric, wasn't

796
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: it on Saturday? Electric?

797
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: Where were you watching? U? In a restaurant? And then

798
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: I went up to my apartment. So it's for the

799
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: second half? Nice? Yeah, okay, that's special. I needed to focus.

800
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was it a little too chaotic?

801
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it wasn't. I just I really I

802
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: don't want talking. I want full That's why, you know

803
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: super Bowl parties. I'm not a fan. I don't. It's

804
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: not a socializing event for me.

805
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 1: You can take it very seriously.

806
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: I can't. I'm before the game, I'm doing the Oh yeah, you.

807
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you can will your team to winning?

808
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: Is that?

809
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: Why?

810
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: That? With them playing?

811
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: With them playing? Okay, so why do you get in

812
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: the zone? I'm like, what is the zone?

813
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: Because when I did play. I felt I could will,

814
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: so it's just stuck with you. Will you watch? Yeah?

815
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 1: Will you watch with your wife?

816
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? But she's she knows would be quiet. Well she

817
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: she's it depends on her mood because it is so

818
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 2: annoying me. You, I'm so annoying.

819
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: Okay, So when she's like, okay, you're doing that whole.

820
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: It's like watching watching a movie with me.

821
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: You're also like, shut up during a movie.

822
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 2: I was just like, oh my god, what's with the

823
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: camera movement?

824
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: Oh you're oh, you're looking at it like an acting critique.

825
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: Boy, the critique. Boy can't even I can't.

826
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: Even my goodness, yeh damn. But you'll say it out

827
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: loud though, so you're to laugh.

828
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: Like there was a movie, there's an action movie that

829
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 2: came out recently that I could not stop laughing, and

830
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 2: everyone in the theater. At one point, some guy turned around.

831
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 2: My son was with me, and he was so angry

832
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 2: with me because he kept seeing He was so angry.

833
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: I was in tears because it was so uh it was.

834
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: I found it funny.

835
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: And did he not know who you were? When he

836
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: turned around?

837
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 2: Oh? No him, No, he didn't, he didn't. I was

838
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: just another asshole in.

839
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: The movie him laughing at the camera camera. I'm tempted

840
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: to ask, I'll ask you off, I'll ask you off, Mike,

841
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: what the movie was that you were laughing at?

842
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 2: Because we won't get you canceled. Well, it's also it's

843
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 2: you know, you know, it's it's just not that I

844
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 2: don't find that gentlemanly or to say, oh yeah, no,

845
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 2: it's not. But it's tasteless. It's tsteless because what did.

846
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: We start by saying that there was this whole thing

847
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: was an endeavor to do a movie, To make a movie,

848
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: to make any project is quite an endeavor, so many

849
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: moving parts. It's a lot harder than it looks. Did

850
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: you have critiques for me on Little Brother? You can

851
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: share them now.

852
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: No. Actually, in fact, I think I'm going to clear

853
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: my throat for this one.

854
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 1: We're allowed to clear throats on this podcast. I should

855
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,919
Speaker 1: have told you, genuinely, this is an imperfect podcast. That's

856
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: the thing I always say, I'm going to clear my throat.

857
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: I have allergies. It happens I'm not wearing pants.

858
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 1: Okay, you're not wearing pants. You are going to get canceled.

859
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: He's not wearing pants. He's not even wearing boxers. It's

860
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: swing a langon. It got really tense in the room

861
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: because I've outed him.

862
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 2: He's that guy's so uncomfortable.

863
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, where's your weed?

864
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 2: Someone mop him down?

865
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: What was sure your critiques for me on little brother?

866
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 5: Like?

867
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: Look, no, no, no, no, I went up to you

868
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 2: in Caleb, and in retrospect, I felt like an asshole. No,

869
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,479
Speaker 2: I didn't. It was a little weird, but at the moment,

870
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 2: I didn't care. I still don't care. Good, Uh, I

871
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 2: told you how brilliant you guys were cracking me up,

872
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: and I don't crack I don't. I don't get cracked

873
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: up because, oh my god, you guys were just hitting

874
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 2: these beautiful really because it could have been a little

875
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 2: cliched and a little on the nose, but I was going, oh,

876
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: I know, I know who that person is. I've met them,

877
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: and that's really funny. And the same with Caleb.

878
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: He's I mean so funny. He's so funny, and I'm

879
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 1: really grateful that he and I got to work together

880
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: on that.

881
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 2: And did I tell you the Caleb story?

882
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: Tell me the Caleb story?

883
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: So on one of my nieces said Caleb Caleb. I

884
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: love Caleb. I mean and and he's like an icon

885
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 2: in the gay community. And he's not just a funny

886
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,959
Speaker 2: he's funny. And I said, I told him the be goes.

887
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 2: That's what's good. That will be written on my epitaph.

888
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 2: He wasn't just ga. He was funny, funny, funny. I

889
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 2: don't even know what that means either.

890
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: Okay, well, of course she has to be. She has

891
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: to be to say that.

892
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 2: Here, let me dump out my gum.

893
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: Okay, do you want to hear right in here?

894
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 2: Yeah?

895
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see those skills. I couldn't have caught that.

896
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: And he caught that over the light.

897
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: Over the lights. No, that's what that's called.

898
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can only speak the backers. You don't go

899
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: out into the flat. You just gotta you know, over

900
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 2: there before the safety comes.

901
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: Over the safety. That's football. And I'm saying this because

902
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: I know just very little about sports, but I love

903
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: a sports documentary. Did you watch Last Dance?

904
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 2: Of course you did.

905
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: Did you watch the Tiger Woods documentary? You got to

906
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 1: go home and watch that if you have some time to. Really, Yeah,

907
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: I think it's really good. I think it's really well done.

908
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: Where I was afraid it was going to be a

909
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 2: little too train wrecky for me to get into or

910
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 2: or really download.

911
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: Okay, I think you might like it. I think you might.

912
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: I think it's well done.

913
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 2: Yeah did he participate?

914
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm trying to write so long ago I know, No,

915
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: No he didn't.

916
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

917
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: I worried about the prurient nature of it.

918
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: Sure, it's not salacious. For say, it's like, it's like

919
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: the making of an.

920
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: An incredible try and keep up kids, kids.

921
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an educational podcast.

922
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

923
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: We're trying to drop little nuggets to look it up.

924
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 2: You don't invite dumb guests.

925
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 1: Never in my fucking life have I had a dumb

926
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: guest on this podcast. The dumbest person in the podcast

927
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: is me. Every time I'm learning stuff to that, I'm

928
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: just saying no. But it's it's it's interesting to see

929
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: how you like make a mega athlete and what kind

930
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: of discipline I want to say it requires. I don't

931
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: know if that's the right word given given the nature

932
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: of that podcast, but just what kind of discipline and

933
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: tunnel vision goes into that.

934
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 2: Sort of thing.

935
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: But I'm pitching it to you. I didn't work on it.

936
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: I just found it really really fascinating. Do your kids

937
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: play sports?

938
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: My not my daughter. I mean, she dabbled, but she dances.

939
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: She likes to, you know, dance it up any kind,

940
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 2: you know, hip hop or ballet and all that. My son,

941
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 2: he played the football and then lacrosse. Were you.

942
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: An annoying dad who would after games be critiquing?

943
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: I was, well, I want to say I wasn't, but

944
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 2: I was, like, I was my son's football coach, one

945
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: of them, And yeah, I was. I've been kicked off

946
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: the field a little league game.

947
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: Really, you're that dad? I don't.

948
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess that makes sense. It's it's tanya,

949
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: I get when I get into competition sports mode that

950
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: m hmm. I just what the face I'm making now?

951
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 2: I just I get like that, it's time to play,

952
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 2: It's time to focus and play.

953
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: Did your dad play sports?

954
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 2: No? Was the coach?

955
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: So never coached any of your teams or anything like that.

956
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 1: Are you competitive in games like board games, card games?

957
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 2: I was. I was banished from the family charades. What

958
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 2: did you do? I call it exuberance and enthusiasm. They

959
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: have sense allowed me back and I don't and you

960
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 2: know me. I I'm not quite sure I've accepted the

961
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: invitation back.

962
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: Really, so this is like around the holidays. They're like,

963
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: you can come play.

964
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 2: With us now, no, and I'm like, yeah, no, feelings

965
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 2: have been hurt.

966
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: Really, Okay, what will it take to heal?

967
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: German chocolate cake? That's easy, we can we can't.

968
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: I want I'm gonna try to get one of your

969
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: family members to listen. They get them to bake, one

970
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 1: to listen, one to bake. You got two kids for

971
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 1: a reason. Okay, all right, great, we're gonna get you back.

972
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: I want you playing charades again with the family. Everyone's

973
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: vying for you on charades. Okay, well you know it's

974
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: time for a segment called that's nice? But what about me?

975
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 2: Okay? Where you've done.

976
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: A lot of talking about you today? Are you yawning

977
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: because of the U part or because I'm about to

978
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: start talking about me? Because you know I want to

979
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: hear you. It's not gonna be much. It's not gonna

980
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: be much. Do you even listen to this? You didn't

981
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 1: even know what this was. You didn't even know who

982
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: I was when you came in. I saw the publicists

983
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: tell you ca okay, okay, So you have worked quite

984
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: a bit in this industry, right, how have you decided

985
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 1: when you want to wrap up a job? Obviously there's films,

986
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: shows have seasons, but sometimes you want to leave a job.

987
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 1: How do you decide when?

988
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: And how? Oh you mean, like you know, when I

989
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: was on SVU, Yeah, yeah, that's the only time that's happened.

990
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: All he knows that there was it was time for

991
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 2: a change for me. And how I was I felt

992
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 2: I was treated in the negotiations, how they conducted the negotiations.

993
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 2: I went loud and clear, you know, because you know,

994
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 2: negotiations always a little bit of a cat and mouse

995
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: or you know, playing chicken and all that. And sometimes,

996
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 2: in my opinion, there's a timber or a tone of

997
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: bullying and almost they and I think I think it's

998
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: kind of that psychological warfare to let you know, we

999
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: don't need you that much. And you know, when I

1000
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 2: I felt I was getting those vibes, I went, oh,

1001
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 2: that's fine, and I really meant it, and I never

1002
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 2: felt it was reactionary of oh I'll show you. You know,

1003
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: I just went I got it, heard heard, I heard it.

1004
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: And when I left, you know, I would say it,

1005
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: and I really meant it. I go, I wish I'm

1006
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: the best of luck. I want people to be employed.

1007
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 2: I want the show to go on for as long

1008
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 2: as everyone wants it to go on. You know, I

1009
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 2: had no heart and it was so that was a

1010
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: so I guess it's it's that it's a I think

1011
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: a part of that was also driven by, you know,

1012
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: maybe creatively it wasn't. I was getting a little itchy

1013
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: for the last last few years before like what's out there?

1014
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: Sure do you think like some of your gratitude and

1015
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: this isn't a critique like seems you kind of find

1016
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: yourself like, oh, I'm not in the same state of

1017
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: gratitude for this particular job. Is that a thing that

1018
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: you Yes.

1019
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 2: That's a great that's that's that's absolutely valid. Yes.

1020
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1021
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: In fact, that's why I moved out of New York

1022
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: City once it ended. I just found myself going, I

1023
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 2: don't I'm I'm unhappy here. I'm not appreciating New York

1024
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: and that I was very clear about. You know, you

1025
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: don't like New York. If you're not appreciating New York City,

1026
00:58:58,720 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 2: you need to get the fuck out.

1027
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: I think that's the word, and where do you live

1028
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: now in New York City?

1029
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: Because I went to LA. I lived there for seven years,

1030
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: and then we came back and it was the same

1031
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: thing before. I've done two tours of duty in LA,

1032
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: and both times was the first time. I had just

1033
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: gotten married. And then you know, we're in LA. We've

1034
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 2: been in LA for five six years, and I'm like,

1035
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: I I got to go back to New York and

1036
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: I thought I'd be a bi coastal actor. It's supposed

1037
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 2: to be a pre SVU and all that.

1038
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and then and you came back. You were

1039
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: missing New York and now you have gratitude for it.

1040
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. So and also it's like it's almost like a

1041
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 2: Rabbit at Rest, that's a book never John Updike.

1042
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: Okay, look that up ship and just dropping gyms you

1043
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: gotta give. Okay, you've done three three gems. I feel

1044
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: more more gems from you than that, but lots of

1045
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: But yeah.

1046
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: Was that a gym?

1047
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,439
Speaker 1: That was a gym? That was a gem I'm gonna

1048
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: And then the book say the book again.

1049
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 2: A rabbit at rest, Rabbit, rabbit run, okay, a rabbit reducts,

1050
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 2: rabbit returns. I think and then Rabbit at rest, John

1051
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 2: Upducky wrote, for I read them.

1052
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: You did, okay?

1053
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 2: You read?

1054
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: Are you reading anything right now?

1055
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 3: Uh?

1056
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh? All the light that can can't all the

1057
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 2: light that can be seen, all the light that can't

1058
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 2: be seen.

1059
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: You could tell me anything, and I believe it.

1060
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 2: What's his name? Door d O E r R. Look

1061
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 2: it up for me, Put the camera down, look it

1062
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: up for me.

1063
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: Camera telling the photographer, put the camera on the ground.

1064
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 2: Let's see what you're going a multitask.

1065
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: All the light we cannot see? Are you enjoying it?

1066
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: It's good?

1067
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? And I thought, you know, I'm because I usually

1068
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 2: read nonfiction. But same and uh my daughter goes, I said,

1069
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 2: is it any good? Pul surprise? When I said any good?

1070
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 2: She goes, oh yeah. And Dad all the day ads

1071
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 2: like you like what she mean by that? Would that

1072
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 2: you know, cool dads like who want to be part

1073
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 2: of the Zechs guests? I guess you know of the

1074
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 2: moment in literature are yeah, maybe hard crusty guys like myself.

1075
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 5: Are I was gonna say, Lawn, you know what speaking

1076
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 5: I'm reading?

1077
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 2: Can't you see on the light we cannot see? You know?

1078
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 2: The one the cool dads reading. I'm a cool dad.

1079
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: Put on my reading classes? You did?

1080
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: You brought the glasses in here?

1081
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 2: Why those are my reading glasses? Well? Put?

1082
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: Can we see them modeling? I was I have been

1083
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: sitting here thinking what would the outfit look like with

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01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: the glass?

1085
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 2: Stanley Tucci? Yeah, Stanley Tucci, Chris Maloney both.

1086
01:01:56,360 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: Italian evote Italian. Wow, it's giving Stanley Tucci, for sure?

1087
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 2: It is. You are absolutely right? You know that about yourself.

1088
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: Did someone tell you that or you just knew it

1089
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: that you look like Stanley Tucci when you put the

1090
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: glasses on.

1091
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 2: Stanley Tucci looks like me? You know what?

1092
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 5: That is?

1093
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 2: My bad? I'm so sorry. I do have a played

1094
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 2: of pasta right here though I just got my Italian citizenship?

1095
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: You did? What made you pursue it?

1096
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 2: I have a hunch, so we'll leave it at that.

1097
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, we'll.

1098
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 2: Leave it at My daughter was studying in Spain, and

1099
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 2: I thought it would be a good idea, you know,

1100
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 2: down the road. I don't know how much it'll benefit me,

1101
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 2: but you know, just my benefit the next generation. You know,

1102
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 2: it gives you a whole new because you know it's

1103
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 2: easier to get a job in the EU and you

1104
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 2: can buy land if you want to do that. Become

1105
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 2: a ventnor if you want to do that, you want to.

1106
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 2: I'm not telling my kids to be a ventnor, but

1107
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 2: I love it if they became an hinted.

1108
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to get the kids to listen to

1109
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: this podcast. There's a lot of messages in this one

1110
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, German chocolate cake. N okay, all right,

1111
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: do you have a favorite place in Italy?

1112
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 2: I'm just curious. I love Italy. I love Florence too.

1113
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: I wish Venice did not allow tourists too many, but

1114
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: they accepted me because I now have my citizenship. I

1115
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 2: love Rome. But you know that that big city thing,

1116
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 2: I'm becoming less and less enamored with you because New York.

1117
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I get a lot of that energy.

1118
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: But that's yeah, we were just there. We're just there.

1119
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm going modern because yeah, yeah, to go to the

1120
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: Casa Maria Luigia do you no, No, you don't know?

1121
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 2: Is it the right? Yeah?

1122
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: Not not related to f one, just food, going for food,

1123
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: genuinely going to this restaurant that was like maybe the

1124
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: best in the world.

1125
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 2: No, that's literally why I write that down?

1126
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: I will okay, and then kid want to be a

1127
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: vinner German chocolate cake. Okay, I got all my notes.

1128
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: That was bad acting, by the way. Imagine you're watching

1129
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: a movie and she's written all that down and I

1130
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: tapped twice. You're laughing at that. If you're watching me

1131
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: in a movie, do that you're laughing in.

1132
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 2: Probably what the fuck was that? Tap tap?

1133
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: She wrote all that down?

1134
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 2: Get me murray Hill nine two. What I have a.

1135
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,959
Speaker 1: Little game I want to play with you before I release.

1136
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 2: You in charades. And your family is here, let's go

1137
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 2: get it here.

1138
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: There's no family, your family Okay, it's called thanks, no thanks, okay.

1139
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 2: No thanks, the game?

1140
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, see you later. Chris, this is all right, Okay,

1141
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna anyone ever use that joke, which part no thanks,

1142
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: no thanks immediately and left. No one's done it. You're

1143
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: the first pioneer. Pioneer talk about a cool dad, talk

1144
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,919
Speaker 1: about the fucking dad right here.

1145
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I want to suggest you read this book,

1146
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 2: okay for real.

1147
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, the light that can't be seen within as your photographer,

1148
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: as the photographer. Well, I also wrote it down click

1149
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: click remember all right, tap tash between thanks, no thanks.

1150
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: So basically, I'm gonna list a bunch of gifts, and

1151
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: I want to know if you would be saying thanks

1152
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: or no thanks if you receive the following.

1153
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 2: Okay, this is this is going to be easy, rapid fire.

1154
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah all right.

1155
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: A fly swatter that looks like a sex paddle.

1156
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 2: No thanks.

1157
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: A T shirt with the gift giver's face on it

1158
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: you even if it's your wife. No thanks, Okay, I

1159
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to do follow ups. Okay, really valuable cole,

1160
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: nothing thanks. A robot that is your friend, No thanks.

1161
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: A donation made in your name, but when you ask

1162
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: what charity they get KG No thanks, okay, old timey

1163
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: games a trump coin, go ahead, old timey games, No thanks.

1164
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: Nine vault batteries the really chunky ones.

1165
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 2: Thanks.

1166
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: So you don't want anything on this list of things.

1167
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 2: I don't want anything in life.

1168
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: You want for nothing. I you've reached self actualization is

1169
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: what I'm realizing. You're there, You're in it. You want

1170
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: for nothing.

1171
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: Christmas is the most difficult time of the year because

1172
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 2: I don't want anything, and but I understand that, you know,

1173
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 2: people are opening up presence, and there's this feeling of

1174
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 2: I'm left out, and it's like, I'm not. You don't

1175
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 2: want to. I don't. I've never under when I was

1176
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 2: a child, I got itously. I don't get it. I

1177
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 2: don't get this exchange of this. If I want something,

1178
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 2: I'll get it. And I appreciate people who make these

1179
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 2: still make the effort, I really do.

1180
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm so touched, but you know, just so,

1181
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 1: when do you pretend to like your family presumably is

1182
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: still getting you gifts for Christmas?

1183
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I can't believe, but I have become

1184
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 2: this guy. I'm like slippers and I never understood that

1185
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 2: I got tell you after a year those slippers.

1186
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: Are warning Yeah every year? Okay, good ones. Do we

1187
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: have like your initials embroidered on them? Anything?

1188
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 2: Just or no? We're talking. Do I look like the

1189
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 2: guy who embroiders this? Yes? You actually do?

1190
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 1: In that suit?

1191
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 2: Is it the beard?

1192
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: It's the suit and the beard.

1193
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 2: The man of the world's most interesting man.

1194
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: And it's slippers. You got a little C on the

1195
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: left foot and M on the other.

1196
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 2: Still is that what he says?

1197
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: They'll tell me? Oh my gosh, No, it's time for

1198
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: the last segment, It's called meme acting surprise that it exists.

1199
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: I do this all the time. Thank you next? Is

1200
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: this next segment?

1201
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 2: I have to act surprise like I just did. I

1202
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 2: just did. Okay, gosh, I'll try okay.

1203
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: That thank you next. Basically, you're going to be answering

1204
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: a question from our previous guest, and then you're gonna

1205
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 1: get to ask our next guest a question. All right,

1206
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: so our previous guest A previous guest, Billy Eichner asks

1207
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: what's your least favorite Celine Dion song?

1208
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 2: My least favorite?

1209
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 1: What's your least favorite Selene Dion? Oh my gosh, it's

1210
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: making it worse. He's making it worse. Actually, okay, is

1211
01:08:58,400 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: that the surprise? That was you acting?

1212
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 2: Yes? I felt that I was late. Like if I

1213
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 2: when you cut it together, I'd be like, you are

1214
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 2: late with the anyway, Billy Eichner, you stalled me on.

1215
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 2: Billy Aichner. He's a funny guy.

1216
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 1: He is a funny guy. What's your least favorite Selein

1217
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 1: Dion song? He wants to know, He's begging to.

1218
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 2: Know, Billy, I don't know any of her songs. I

1219
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 2: know the chest pounding Titanic song and what's the name

1220
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 2: of it? Hold On, I will always love you. That's

1221
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 2: Whndy Houston. Hold On, hold on, put the camera down

1222
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 2: in look it up. I don't care.

1223
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 3: Less.

1224
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 2: Did he say it? Because I said, you didn't hear no? Okay,

1225
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 2: so mom oh god, this this is gonna be the

1226
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 2: most interesting part of the podcast. Hold on, mm hmm,

1227
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 2: every you are beautiful voice. I've been taking voice lessons

1228
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:46,480
Speaker 2: birth control, no matter the one is that it No,

1229
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1230
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: My heart will go on?

1231
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's not your least face. You know something

1232
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 2: we did the audience a favor was not coming out

1233
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 2: of my mouth.

1234
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: Okay, that was never gonna happen. Will go on, my

1235
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 1: heart will go on. You never would have guessed that. No,

1236
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 1: just fist pounding. You call it the fist pounding Titanic song.

1237
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I saw her singing it live, which was powerful.

1238
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,879
Speaker 2: She has a beautiful voice. But she like banged yourself

1239
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 2: in the chest and I was just like dad had

1240
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 2: to have hurt. Yeah, but she's a pro.

1241
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. So you don't do you have a least favorite?

1242
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 1: I don't know any of you don't know her music.

1243
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 1: You heard it here?

1244
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 2: First, what do you listen to Tool? Tool? Okay?

1245
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: Do you okay? Fine, do you have a least favorite

1246
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: Tool song? That's my question? No, Billy Eichner on this one.

1247
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 2: You love all their songs.

1248
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: Look at that bottom lip.

1249
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 2: You're the only band that I really I do. I yeah, yeah, okay, sorry, god, no,

1250
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 2: that's okay.

1251
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're failing good?

1252
01:11:59,240 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 2: Good?

1253
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 1: I was if that critics?

1254
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 2: I also you know, I also think I don't want

1255
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 2: to trade in uh, you know least favorite?

1256
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 1: Oh, you don't want to do least because your positive.

1257
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 1: We don't rag on people. I don't know, I'm look

1258
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 1: publicly publicly.

1259
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 2: We don't rag. Definitely not. I also have found the

1260
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 2: older I get that. I find uh, I get very little.

1261
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 2: I get no benefit. There's no benefit. There's no upside

1262
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 2: for me, you know a song like that because those

1263
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 2: conversations go on like you know, party, and I'm just

1264
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 2: like or I I attempt to stay quiet.

1265
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 1: I understand and out of the way, flow and let

1266
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:38,440
Speaker 1: it flows.

1267
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 2: It's no big deal.

1268
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the moment the podcast exhausted by Chris

1269
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 3: be like okay, no, no, okay, what's.

1270
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 1: Damn damn? You made this hard? Today, Chris, No, you didn't. Okay,

1271
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: what's the question you want to ask a next guest,

1272
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: a guest in the future. You don't know who the

1273
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: guest will be, nor do I, But what's a question

1274
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 1: for them?

1275
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 2: Who will be the twenty twenty eight presidential nominees?

1276
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 1: Who will be the twenty twenty eight presidential nominees? Okay,

1277
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: we'll make sure to ask a guest who may or

1278
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 1: may not be in politics, who may or may not

1279
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: have a hunch, that's okay?

1280
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 2: And will they pick Celine Dion as vice president? And

1281
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 2: so a two parter, two parter. And I know she's Canadian,

1282
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 2: but will they.

1283
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: Pick Selene Diana's vice president? Okay, we'll make sure someone

1284
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 1: answers that you've got.

1285
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, tell you what. I'll just make it even

1286
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 2: more broad. Will she be part of the government?

1287
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 1: Will Celine Dion be part of the government?

1288
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 2: Okay? All right, I will make sure I got a homebuilder,

1289
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 2: who's uh, who's going to be an intel?

1290
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:05,600
Speaker 1: Chi, that's true. We'll make sure to ask that. Thank you, Chris, No,

1291
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: thanks to you on Thanks Dad.

1292
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 2: I liked it.

1293
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 1: Guys, I just talked to Chris Maloney.

1294
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 2: That was so fun. I enjoyed it.

1295
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 1: You got to see a side of him. I'm sure

1296
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 1: you haven't seen before. He didn't know there were eggs

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Speaker 1: in my pocket. At no point did he look at

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Speaker 1: me and go, hey, I'm getting the sense you have

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Speaker 1: eggs in your in your in your blazer pocket. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Stealth stealth eggs. He had no,

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Speaker 1: he had no idea. He just had a whole conversation

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Speaker 1: with me, no clue that there were some hard boiled

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Speaker 1: eggs in my pocket. You can smell them.

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Speaker 2: Nothing.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, loved talking to him, loved getting to do the

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Speaker 1: whole thing. The spit on the glass, I was gonna

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Speaker 1: say when he started wiping, I mean I did say

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Speaker 1: that he made it worse. But now that I'm looking, nah,

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Speaker 1: this this window needs. This glass needs to get windexed.

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Speaker 1: And that's word to windex. Maybe they want to be

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Speaker 1: a sponsor because it kind of looks like the rest

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Speaker 1: of the glass. You wouldn't know someone in here spit

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Speaker 1: water at that glass. A lot of things happening right

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Speaker 1: under our little noses in this world. M I think

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Speaker 1: that's the lesson today. Thank you for listening. I love

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Speaker 1: you guys, and listen to the next one, and do

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Speaker 1: something for yourself today and then do something for someone else.

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Speaker 2: Can you believe?

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna catch my breath at some point

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Speaker 1: from running up those stairs. Okay, bye, guys, Thanks Dad.

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